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Sharri | 29 October · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News This is Sharry.
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Speaker 2: Good Evening.
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Speaker 3: Tonight, Donald Trump's top counter terror advisor, Seb Gorka reveals
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Speaker 3: he confronted Kevin Rudd about his criticism of the President
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Speaker 3: before that explosive White House meeting. He tells me this
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Speaker 3: tonight in an exclusive interview.
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Speaker 1: I first meeting with your ambassador.
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Speaker 4: I brought up his tweets against the President, and he has.
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Speaker 2: This message for Kevin Rudd.
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Speaker 1: You make your bed and you lie in it right.
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Speaker 3: That exclusive interview from the White House coming up, Plus
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Speaker 3: Bill Gates says climate change won't end civilization. As Scott
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Speaker 3: Morrison declares, net zero is not policy but ideology. All
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Speaker 3: of that ahead, But first, it's now night three of
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Speaker 3: t shirt gate. The protection racket in the media and
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Speaker 3: in politics is firmly kicking in behind alban EASi, and
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Speaker 3: the heat is turning on Susan Lee despite the fact
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Speaker 3: he's in the wrong and she isn't. Now to recap,
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Speaker 3: on Monday Night, I reported that Anthony ALBINIZI knew the
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Speaker 3: cruel meaning of the Joy Division T shirt he wore
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Speaker 3: as he stepped off the VIP plane from.
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Speaker 2: Washington, yet he wore it anyway.
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Speaker 3: He was told by esteemed podcaster Nigel Marsh that it
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Speaker 3: related to a wing in a concentration camp where Jewish
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Speaker 3: women were sex slaves to the Nazis. We're talking rape
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Speaker 3: and sexual abuse, and that wing was called the Joy Division. Now,
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Speaker 3: it's difficult to believe the Prime Minister would choose to
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Speaker 3: wear this T shirt given he knows the meaning of
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Speaker 3: the name. So that was Monday night. Now, as I've
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Speaker 3: said repeatedly, when I first saw him wearing the T shirt,
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Speaker 3: I was and fired up about it. I gave him
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Speaker 3: the benefit of the doubt. But then it emerged that
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Speaker 3: he did know the meaning of the bad name, as
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Speaker 3: I said Nigel Marsh told him, and worse, Alban Easy
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Speaker 3: asked Nigel to delete this fact from his podcast.
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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, sorry for giving you that piece of dark background.
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Speaker 6: You should edit that out of the podcast just for
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Speaker 6: the sake of the listeners, think so.
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Speaker 1: That they can continue to enjoy it.
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Speaker 6: But that was so dark.
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Speaker 3: So Alban Easy the Prime Minister, and at the time
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Speaker 3: this podcast came out, it was April twenty twenty two,
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Speaker 3: he was campaigning to be the PM, and he asked
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Speaker 3: Nigel Marsh to delete the part about what joy division means.
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Speaker 2: Now Susan Lee.
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Speaker 3: After seeing my report, she said that alban Easy showed
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Speaker 3: poor judgment that he should apologize. She raised the issue
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Speaker 3: in Parliament right before question time on Tuesday.
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Speaker 7: The Prime Minister of this country, in full knowledge of
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Speaker 7: the meaning behind the name of this band, to choose
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Speaker 7: to wear this T shirt is an insult to all
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Speaker 7: and it fails the basic tests of leadership. He should
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Speaker 7: apologize immediately.
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Speaker 3: Yet Albinizi is refusing to apologize, and somehow it's now
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Speaker 3: Susan Lee who's under pressure. Now is this the biggest
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Speaker 3: deal in the world.
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Speaker 2: No, of course it's not. Is this Albanese's biggest crime? Hardly?
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Speaker 2: But it is still a story and it does matter.
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Speaker 3: The Prime Minister knew the meaning of the bad name
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Speaker 3: and he chose to wear it when disembarking from the
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Speaker 3: most important trip of his career. Now I can reveal
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Speaker 3: that senior Jewish leaders have expressed their disappointment. The rabbi
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Speaker 3: at Sydney's prestigious Central Synagogue, Rabbi leave Wolf, told me this.
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Speaker 3: He said, considering the antisemitism crisis in this country, I
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Speaker 3: don't see that it is in the PM's interests to
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Speaker 3: offend our precious Australian Holocaust survivors, the highest number in
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Speaker 3: the world per capita. The rabbi says, mate, throw away
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Speaker 3: the T shirt, offer a sincere apology and be done
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Speaker 3: with it. That's Rabbi Wolf from Central Synagogue in Sydney.
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Speaker 3: Now in Melbourne, Corefield Synagogue's Rabbi Daniel Rabin told me this.
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Speaker 3: I'm sure the Prime Minister didn't intend to cause offense,
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Speaker 3: but this moment is a reminder of how important historical
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Speaker 3: awareness is, especially at a time when anti Semitism is rising.
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Speaker 3: Symbols and names can carry deep and painful meanings for
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Speaker 3: many in the Jewish community. What matters now is that
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Speaker 3: we continue to promote understanding and sensitivity so that we
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Speaker 3: build a society grounded in respect and unity. And Rabbi
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Speaker 3: on Demand's Yossi Friedman also agrees. He said most people
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Speaker 3: don't realize that joydivision refers to a Nazi term for
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Speaker 3: enslaved Jewish women in the Holocaust, even if unintentional, symbols
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Speaker 3: like that carry deep pain, and leaders should be mindful
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Speaker 3: of the messages their choices send, especially in these times
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Speaker 3: of increased antisemitism. Wise words from all three rabbis and
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Speaker 3: the Australian Jewish Association's Chief executive, Robert Gregory, also said
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Speaker 3: this might have been excused as a harmless wardrobe choice,
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Speaker 3: except the Prime Minister was previously made aware of the
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Speaker 3: dark origins of the band's name. It's hard to imagine
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Speaker 3: him disregarding such a warning and wearing something that could
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Speaker 3: offend any other minority group, and if he did, we
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Speaker 3: can be sure an apology would follow swiftly, he says. Sadly,
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Speaker 3: this fits a familiar pattern. The Prime Minister has too
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Speaker 3: often downplayed the concerns of the Jewish community and this
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Speaker 3: latest incident only reinforces that impression. Now, like I said,
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Speaker 3: this isn't the biggest.
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Speaker 2: Deal in the world, but it does matter.
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Speaker 3: This isn't an average Australian wearing an offensive T shirt.
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Speaker 3: It's our Prime Minister landing back in Australia, fresh after
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Speaker 3: meeting the President of the United States, and he asked,
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Speaker 3: as I told you last night, he asked the media
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Speaker 3: not to film him as he disembarked the plane. He
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Speaker 3: didn't want to be filmed in the T shirt. Now,
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Speaker 3: this goes to his character. Even ardent Joy Division fans
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Speaker 3: tell me they'd never buy or wear the T shirt,
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Speaker 3: and even the podcaster Nigel Marsh said in that podcast
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Speaker 3: that he struggles with support for their music.
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Speaker 2: Now this is all.
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Speaker 3: Pretty obvious, shouldn't be a difficult topic, and radio hosts
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Speaker 3: It's Ben Fordham today called on the Prime Minister just
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Speaker 3: to say sorry.
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Speaker 8: I don't think an apologies out of the question, and
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Speaker 8: I'm gobsmacked that the Prime Minister has not taken the
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Speaker 8: tip and turfed the T shirt. The PM's conversation with
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Speaker 8: the podcast host was not your run of the meal conversation.
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Speaker 8: He was genuinely shocked to hear that one of his
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Speaker 8: favorite bands is named after a wing of a Nazi
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Speaker 8: concentration camp, a place where women were attacked and abused
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Speaker 8: and faced horrific acts of humiliation. But Albow went ahead
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Speaker 8: and wore the shirt anyway, and he hasn't commented on this.
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Speaker 8: He hasn't apologized yet. I think he should.
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Speaker 3: Imagine if a liberal MP wore a T shirt that's
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Speaker 3: offensive to a minority group, what if it were a Kanye.
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Speaker 2: West T shirt? The Left would be going nuts.
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Speaker 3: Albanezy just wanted to be the cool leader wearing a
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Speaker 3: band T shirt after a meeting with the President. He
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Speaker 3: wanted to be dj al He loves that image.
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Speaker 6: I wear band shirts all the time when I can.
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Speaker 6: These days, I've got to say one of the downside,
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Speaker 6: I'm much more comfortable in a South Sydney shirt or
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Speaker 6: a band shirt and jeans than I am in a
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Speaker 6: suit and tie. It's part of the job, as I
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Speaker 6: spend my life in a suit and time.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's so cool, isn't he.
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Speaker 3: But Albaniez he has been exposed for trying to hide
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Speaker 3: a dark chapter in history.
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Speaker 2: Just delete it.
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Speaker 3: From the podcast, and the left, along with Susan Lee's enemies,
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Speaker 3: are scrambling to make excuses for him yet again. Except
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Speaker 3: there are no excuses, as Ben Fordham says, just apologize,
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Speaker 3: mate and throw out the T shirt.
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Speaker 9: Now.
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Speaker 3: This issue has also exposed tensions in the Coalition ranks
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Speaker 3: over Susan Lee's leadership. Last week, when no less than
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Speaker 3: the President of the United States Donald Trump told Kevin
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Speaker 3: Right he didn't like him and probably never will, Coalition
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Speaker 3: MP's refused to back in Susan Lee's sensible assessment that
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Speaker 3: Rudd's position was probably untenable. Some INMPS had even previously
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Speaker 3: expressed the same view, but then they changed their tune
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Speaker 3: when Susan made her public comments, and then again.
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Speaker 2: Today we saw the same thing.
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Speaker 3: Multiple Liberal figures refused to support Susan's demand for Alban
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Speaker 3: easy to apologize for wearing that controversial shirt.
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Speaker 9: Support your leader's fall for an apology dat for that?
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Speaker 9: So I'm sorry, we're focusing on these issues. So you
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Speaker 9: don't support your leader's call.
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Speaker 6: I will continue to focus on the issues around cartel kickbacks.
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Speaker 5: Sir Brian, does the Prime Minister need to apologize for
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Speaker 5: wearing a Joy Division T shirt?
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Speaker 1: I'll look what it comes to when it comes to fashion.
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Speaker 10: I don't claim to be the right person to ask
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Speaker 10: in this parliament.
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Speaker 5: Where your leader says she that he needs to apologize.
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Speaker 5: Do you agree with the leader?
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Speaker 7: Well, look, if you want to talk clothing.
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Speaker 11: Why would't you reduce that?
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Speaker 7: Mister Economy And so I'm not going to continue to
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Speaker 7: take multiple questions.
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Speaker 1: About T shirts.
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Speaker 5: Can I give you one more opportunity to support what
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Speaker 5: your leader said? Should the Prime in.
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Speaker 3: Order T shirts fashion increase in costs?
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Speaker 2: Now?
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Speaker 3: Good on my sky colleague cam Redden for pressing him there.
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Speaker 3: And just in case you don't know, that is tet O'Brien,
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Speaker 3: the deputy Liberal Leader, Susan Lee's deputy. I mean that
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Speaker 3: was disgraceful. It's not about fashion at all. If Tato
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Speaker 3: O'Brien can't publicly support Susan Lee, then he should resign now.
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Speaker 3: I asked Teto brian today after that press conference if
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Speaker 3: he did continue to support Lee as leader, and I
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Speaker 3: also asked him, how can you remain as deputy leader
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Speaker 3: if you do not publicly support her? How he responded saying,
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Speaker 3: I of course support Susan's leader. My presser on CPI
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Speaker 3: figures was about today's shock news on the rise in
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Speaker 3: inflation and ongoing price increases, and I stuck to that
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Speaker 3: one issue.
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Speaker 2: As for the PM's T shirt.
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Speaker 3: I believe his wearing of it displayed poor judgment on
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Speaker 3: his part. So he's now trying to fix up that
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Speaker 3: shocking press conference where as you saw, cam Redden asked
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Speaker 3: him three times and he just claimed.
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Speaker 2: It was a matter of fashion.
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Speaker 3: Now, it's not hard for any politician to give a
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Speaker 3: basic comment saying that they understand why some would be
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Speaker 3: offended by a T shirt that draws on the memory
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Speaker 3: of Jewish women being sexually abused and raped.
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Speaker 2: By Nazis.
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Speaker 3: It's not hard to give a comment saying the choice
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Speaker 3: of t shirt is poor judgment and then continue to
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Speaker 3: speak about how the Albanezi government has shown no leadership
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Speaker 3: on anti Semitism. And then even they could call on
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Speaker 3: Albanezi to implement Jillian Siegel's reckons. But Ted O'Brien, the
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Speaker 3: deputy Liberal leader, didn't do that.
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Speaker 2: Neither did Tim Wilson.
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Speaker 3: Ted deliberately chose to embarrass Susan Lee. Now in fact,
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Speaker 3: he's only embarrassed himself. Angus Taylor, on the other hand, Look,
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Speaker 3: he's Susan Lee's key rival, and yet he did back
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Speaker 3: her in.
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Speaker 12: Look, I think what the Prime Minister did was tone
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Speaker 12: deff in this context. We've got a Jewish community in
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Speaker 12: Australia and I've just come back from Israel that i
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Speaker 12: think are feeling a lot of pain, and I think
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Speaker 12: we've got to be sensitive to that.
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Speaker 3: He's a class act and he shows up his dreadful colleagues.
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Speaker 3: He has leadership ambitions and yet he chooses unity over division. Now,
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Speaker 3: Julian Lie says on my show tonight, and he also
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Speaker 3: supports Lee's position.
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Speaker 13: Have a look, Susan Lee was right to call him
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Speaker 13: out on it, and he should apologize for his actions here.
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Speaker 2: He'll be up a bit later.
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Speaker 3: But Susan Lee is partly to blame herself for this
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Speaker 3: disunity because she lacks authority as leader, and this is
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Speaker 3: because she isn't, as far as I'm aware, enforcing unity
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Speaker 3: in the coalition. But the coalition MPs are primarily to
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Speaker 3: blame if they think they will ever get back into
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Speaker 3: government acting with such amateurish disunity. They're kidding themselves acting
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Speaker 3: like this. They do not deserve government. They deserve to
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Speaker 3: be exactly where they are on the opposition benches. But
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Speaker 3: the problem of course with that is that as Australians,
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Speaker 3: we deserve better than this government and this Prime minister.
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Speaker 3: All right, that big interview with Sebastian Gorka coming up,
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Speaker 3: But now let's bring in former Victorian Liberal Party president
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Speaker 3: Michael Kroger and Michael, you are the half of this show.
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Speaker 2: Rich.
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Speaker 3: Oh, he's not here this week, Michael. Look, we've been
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Speaker 3: reporting on this now in this show t Shirt Gate
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Speaker 3: for three nights. Still no sign of an apology from
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Speaker 3: Alban Easy.
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Speaker 14: Well, look, he's overseas and you would hope that when
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Speaker 14: he comes back he does apologize. I mean, once again,
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Speaker 14: Susan Lee was absolutely right, and you're right, it's not
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Speaker 14: the biggest issue in the world.
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Speaker 9: But if the.
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Speaker 14: Leader of the Liberal Party can't call out that behavior,
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Speaker 14: then they're not worth a pinch assault. And Susan Lee
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Speaker 14: was absolutely right again in taking this issue on because
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Speaker 14: I remember Ditch the Witch. You know Abbot, Abbot went
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Speaker 14: to a rally. He wasn't holding the sign, he didn't
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Speaker 14: make the sign, he didn't know it was there. He's
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Speaker 14: just standing in front of it. Oh, the left went berserk.
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Speaker 14: You know, Abbot was terrible because he stood in front
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Speaker 14: of the sign Albow wore the T shirt.
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Speaker 9: Right, and that.
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Speaker 14: Band, that band also had a record call an Ideal
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Speaker 14: for Living And on the front cover of that album
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Speaker 14: was a sketch of a boy who was a member
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Speaker 14: of Hitler Youth and they knew he was a member.
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Speaker 9: That there was deliberately done that way.
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Speaker 14: I mean they were glorifying promoting Hitley Youth. I mean,
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Speaker 14: this is a shocking band, right, and they've said they
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Speaker 14: toyed with fascism, they're intrigued by Nazism.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 9: There are gross you.
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Speaker 14: Know, Nazi undertones to this band and you know if
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Speaker 14: the liberal leader doesn't call that thing out, well, you know,
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Speaker 14: so she did and she was absolutely right. Now, as
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Speaker 14: for some of her colleagues, I'd simply say this year,
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Speaker 14: I just take this slight exception to here, when a
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Speaker 14: shadow minister like Tim Wilson or Teed O'Brien calls the
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Speaker 14: press condins, a lot of politicians just want to.
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Speaker 9: Talk about their issue.
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Speaker 14: Because they talk about other issues, their issue gets lost.
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Speaker 9: Well because there was a few of them.
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Speaker 14: Yes, their issue got lost because of the cumulative non
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Speaker 14: non supportive of Susan Lee's position. But you know, look
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Speaker 14: in Tim Wilson's case, I know Tim Wilson well enough
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Speaker 14: to know he would have been horrified, by horrified by
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Speaker 14: that T shirt, the primest wearing that T shirt.
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Speaker 2: You know, toy, So you didn't say it.
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Speaker 14: No, because because because he and Maria Kovic are giving
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Speaker 14: a press conference about c f EU and union corruption
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Speaker 14: and they think, as Ted O'Brien, who wanted to talk
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Speaker 14: about the inflation figures, they think, if I talk about
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Speaker 14: other issues, I won't get any coverage.
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Speaker 9: Well, actually that's what happened.
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Speaker 14: They didn't get any garbage only this issue because it accumulated.
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Speaker 14: But normally that's why politician won't talk about other issues
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Speaker 14: because their issue gets lost.
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Speaker 1: That's why.
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Speaker 14: So I'm not excusing it anytime you're asked to support this.
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Speaker 3: Lip which Lee has so many enemies at the moment,
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Speaker 3: both internally and externally. And look, I was quite critical
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Speaker 3: of her in the beginning, but she is doing the
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Speaker 3: best she can now. She's in an extremely difficult position
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Speaker 3: and she's trying really hard and at the very least
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Speaker 3: she should be able to rely on support from her
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Speaker 3: own deputy. And I take your point, but he was
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Speaker 3: asked three times, so he knew he wasn't backing her in.
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Speaker 3: And the way cam red And phrased that do you
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Speaker 3: support your leader's comments?
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Speaker 14: Mmmmm, I think to be fair to cam Redden, if
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Speaker 14: you're asked three times, then then you probably, you know,
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Speaker 14: should get the message that's time to give an appropriate answer.
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Speaker 9: And you know ped didn't know that.
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Speaker 14: Well, you know, that's obviously disappointing, but he was trying
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Speaker 14: to concentrate on the horrendous inflation figures and I understand that.
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Speaker 9: But yeah, look, Susan has critics.
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Speaker 14: Boy, she'd be the first person, you know, the first
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Speaker 14: person in politics. But that's what leaders do. They take
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Speaker 14: unpopular decisions. I mean, it wasn't popular for Susan to
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Speaker 14: say Kevin Rudd should resign as ambassador. She was absolutely right,
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Speaker 14: and I'm I'm fascinated to see the interview you're about
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Speaker 14: to play with Trump's one of his national security advisors,
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Speaker 14: which I'm sure we'll just we'll just echo the fact
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Speaker 14: that Lee was right all along.
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Speaker 4: Yep.
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Speaker 14: I wouldn't the leader of the Liberal party call out
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Speaker 14: the primis. I mean she's his direct opposite. I mean
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Speaker 14: Lee is responsible for talking about Alban.
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Speaker 9: Easy he wears the T shirt of a.
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Speaker 14: Band which has sympathies with Nazis, and what the Liberal
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Speaker 14: leader says nothing? Of course she can't say nothing. What
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Speaker 14: no one says anything about this t shirt this guy's wearing.
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Speaker 14: I mean, boy, it didn't stop them and said it
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Speaker 14: didn't stop them talking about Tony Abbott when the ditch
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Speaker 14: of the witch sign was only But this is the
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Speaker 14: hypocrisy of the left.
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Speaker 9: Right if a liberal, if you said it's a.
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Speaker 14: Liberal person did something like this, well the left would
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Speaker 14: be up in arms. So you know, Susan Lee was
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Speaker 14: absolutely right as she was.
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Speaker 9: About run.
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Speaker 3: Just to change topic. Now, big intervention from Bill Gates today.
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Speaker 3: He declared that climate change won't end civilization, and this
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Speaker 3: is despite him personally spending untold millions on green energy initiatives.
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Speaker 2: So he released this memo.
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Speaker 3: This is ahead of the CLUP thirty climate summon in Brazil,
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Speaker 3: and he says, unfortunately, the doomsday artlook is causing much
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Speaker 3: of the climate community to focus too much on near
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Speaker 3: term emissions goals, and it's diverting resources from the most
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Speaker 3: effective things we should be doing to improve life in
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Speaker 3: a warming world. But Michael, we've seen this debate engulfing
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Speaker 3: the Liberal Party, and while many in the Liberal Party
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Speaker 3: are moving towards dumping the net zero targets, have a
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Speaker 3: look at the moderate Liberal Senator Andrew Bragg today.
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Speaker 10: I think we could do net zero better than labor
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Speaker 10: in terms of emissions and costs and environmental protection. But
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Speaker 10: you've got to keep net zero, right, I mean, that's
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Speaker 10: just a non negotiable for you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 3: So he's saying that is non negotiable. How does the
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Speaker 3: party resolve this?
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Speaker 14: So I think the answer is is that it is
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Speaker 14: hard for the coalition because we introduce the net zero
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Speaker 14: pledge in twenty twenty one before the conference in Scotland,
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Speaker 14: and Barnaby Joyce agreed with it.
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Speaker 9: So so for us.
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Speaker 14: Now to turn around and say now we're actually against it,
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Speaker 14: And as I said there, it's just like nuclear. We're
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Speaker 14: against nuclear for nine years and then we come along
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Speaker 14: and say before the malection no etually in favor of it.
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Speaker 14: The public think, well, this mob can't keep a consistent line.
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Speaker 14: So politically it's not that easy. Just now we're dumping
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Speaker 14: net zero, even though we've been in favorite for four years.
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Speaker 14: And by the way, we took to the election in
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Speaker 14: May just you know, five months ago a support for
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Speaker 14: net zero, and we know the globe is change and
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Speaker 14: global opinion has change to understand that. So the idea
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Speaker 14: of net zero is a laudable objective. But will Australia
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Speaker 14: get there?
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Speaker 1: No?
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Speaker 14: Is it making any contribution to lower in the world's temperature.
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Speaker 1: No?
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Speaker 14: Is it responsible raising electricity prices? Yes, I think for
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Speaker 14: the coalition it's I would in global terms keep it
20:45
Speaker 14: as an objective, but simply say there is a price
20:49
Speaker 14: at which we're not prepared to pay more than and
20:52
Speaker 14: put Bowen's feet to the fire. And what this is
20:54
Speaker 14: actually costing because he won't say how much this policy
20:57
Speaker 14: is costing. I mean, you know, Chris has failed at
21:00
Speaker 14: every other portfolio. You wouldn't you wouldn't put him, You
21:03
Speaker 14: wouldn't put him in charge. You with a mister Whippi Van,
21:07
Speaker 14: this bloke with his with his record, yet he's.
21:09
Speaker 9: Given a blank check of billions and billions.
21:12
Speaker 14: I just don't trust him that he's got the capacity
21:14
Speaker 14: to do what he's been charged with doing by Alban Easy.
21:19
Speaker 3: Michael Kroger, great to have you on solo this week.
21:22
Speaker 3: We'll be back next week with Rich I thank you
21:24
Speaker 3: so much. Now, an interest rate cut next week is
21:28
Speaker 3: looking unlikely after data today showed inflation is rising now.
21:33
Speaker 3: Inflation is jumped by one point three percent in the
21:35
Speaker 3: September quarter, taking the annual rate up to three point
21:39
Speaker 3: two percent. Enjoining me now is Institute of Public Affairs
21:43
Speaker 3: chief economist Adam Crichton. Adam, good to see you again.
21:46
Speaker 3: So why is inflation now running higher than forecast?
21:51
Speaker 10: Well, certainly these figures are very worrying for the government.
21:53
Speaker 10: It's not just the annual figures, it's the three month
21:55
Speaker 10: figures of one percent, and that's just the underlying rate.
21:58
Speaker 10: One percent over three months, so that's an annualized rate
22:00
Speaker 10: of more than four percent a year. But the standout
22:03
Speaker 10: reason why the headline rate is three point two is
22:06
Speaker 10: the price of electricity, which is up nine percent in
22:09
Speaker 10: the quarter and twenty four percent over the twelve months.
22:11
Speaker 10: So this just makes a mockery of the government's claim
22:15
Speaker 10: that solar and wind.
22:16
Speaker 9: Power are cheap.
22:17
Speaker 10: The reality is that is what is driving CPI grinding
22:21
Speaker 10: ever higher. And now we have amongst the highest power
22:24
Speaker 10: prices in the world. I think they're one third of
22:27
Speaker 10: what they are in the US. And just on the
22:29
Speaker 10: question of interest rates, well, we're certainly not.
22:30
Speaker 2: Going to mean a US rights on a one third of.
22:34
Speaker 10: Sorry yes, yeah, a one third of ours.
22:37
Speaker 11: Sorry, yes, exactly.
22:38
Speaker 10: Just on the question of interest rates, there's no chance
22:41
Speaker 10: of a cut now. And let's just think of the hundreds,
22:44
Speaker 10: maybe thousands of first home buyers who took advantage of
22:47
Speaker 10: the five percent deposit the government's new policy in the
22:49
Speaker 10: last three weeks, thinking that rates we're going to fall, Well,
22:53
Speaker 10: they are not going to fall, and if anything, they
22:55
Speaker 10: may go up. So now they've blumbered with massive repayments,
22:58
Speaker 10: they probably can't afford them, and they may even fault
23:00
Speaker 10: some point in the next six months. So you know,
23:02
Speaker 10: this is just a disaster both for those buyers and
23:04
Speaker 10: also for the country at large.
23:07
Speaker 3: So, Adam, before this data, many were expecting there would
23:10
Speaker 3: be a rate cut. Now that's clearly off the table,
23:14
Speaker 3: as you say. But if electricity prices are going to
23:17
Speaker 3: continue rising, and that's what that's all the indications are
23:21
Speaker 3: pointing to that, then when will we see a rate cut?
23:26
Speaker 1: Well, look, I don't think we will see one.
23:28
Speaker 10: I mean, I think most economists keep thinking that we're
23:30
Speaker 10: going to go back to the pre COVID ere or
23:31
Speaker 10: where we had very low rates of inflation one and
23:34
Speaker 10: a half two percent. We haven't really seen anything like
23:37
Speaker 10: that since the end of COVID, based in Australia, UK US,
23:41
Speaker 10: the inflation rate has kind of settled at a much
23:44
Speaker 10: higher level, around three. I think that's pretty obvious, and
23:47
Speaker 10: in fact, I think the rate cuts we already had
23:49
Speaker 10: this year were pretty irresponsible, I would say, especially the
23:52
Speaker 10: one before the election, I might add, which I think
23:54
Speaker 10: is very questionable in hindsight. You know, I think it's
23:57
Speaker 10: not just the government that should be embarrassed, but also
24:00
Speaker 10: so the Reserve Bank. I think there was really no
24:02
Speaker 10: strong indication that the underlying rate of inflation was falling.
24:05
Speaker 10: But we had two red cuts.
24:07
Speaker 1: I don't think we needed them at all.
24:09
Speaker 3: I mean, it's good to have them as a homeowner,
24:11
Speaker 3: but I agree with you. All of the economists I
24:13
Speaker 3: spoke to and former RBA officials were really concerned that
24:17
Speaker 3: there might have been political reasons for that cut.
24:21
Speaker 2: No evidence of that yet though.
24:23
Speaker 3: Just on a final topic, world leaders are just tonight
24:26
Speaker 3: as we speak, arriving in South Korea. Trump is of
24:29
Speaker 3: cost set to meet with Chinese President Shijinping tomorrow. Many
24:32
Speaker 3: are hoping this will dial down the trade wall.
24:35
Speaker 2: What are you expecting?
24:38
Speaker 10: Well, look, we just have to wait and see. I mean,
24:40
Speaker 10: I know there's been the Asian meetings. There's so many
24:44
Speaker 10: meetings at the moment it's hard to keep track, you know.
24:47
Speaker 10: I think, just in terms of Australia, I hope if
24:49
Speaker 10: the Prime Minister has any chance of, you know, kind
24:52
Speaker 10: of brushing up against the US president once again, that
24:54
Speaker 10: he does impress on him the importance of issues in
24:57
Speaker 10: this area. You know, there's a risk that the US
24:59
Speaker 10: will get distrays acted by issues in Europe. But I
25:02
Speaker 10: just hope the Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi stresses the importance
25:05
Speaker 10: of the Indo Pacific region. But that really is very
25:08
Speaker 10: important of course to Australia, but also the US, and
25:11
Speaker 10: just in terms of the China US relationship, of course
25:14
Speaker 10: very important to the rare Earth's deal that we've struck
25:17
Speaker 10: with the US is very important. Let's just see how
25:19
Speaker 10: that plays out. But you know, so far, you'd have
25:22
Speaker 10: to give Donald Trump's foreign policy a tick, I think,
25:24
Speaker 10: and so we have to give him the benefit of
25:26
Speaker 10: the doubt in terms of his relationship with China.
25:29
Speaker 3: I mean he's in a very optimistic frame of mind.
25:32
Speaker 3: I mean he used those words on Air Force one.
25:34
Speaker 2: Have a look.
25:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very optimist, think I am. And the relationship
25:41
Speaker 1: with China's very good. So I think we're going to have.
25:44
Speaker 10: A very good outcome for our country.
25:46
Speaker 1: Yet for the world.
25:47
Speaker 9: Actually, I think it's important for the world.
25:50
Speaker 2: Might be a bit of a relief for President She
25:52
Speaker 2: to hear that. All right, Adam, good to see you.
25:57
Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's return to today's top political story
26:00
Speaker 3: that coalition figures are refusing to support Susan Lee's criticism
26:03
Speaker 3: of Albinisi for wearing that offensive t shirt, and just
26:07
Speaker 3: reminded the interview with sab Golka from the White House
26:10
Speaker 3: is coming up. But I spoke with Shadow Education Minister
26:13
Speaker 3: Julie and Lisa.
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Speaker 2: A bit earlier.
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Speaker 3: Julian, what's your response to Anthony Albanesi wearing this Joy
26:21
Speaker 3: Division T shirt?
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Speaker 11: Cherry?
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Speaker 13: He shouldn't have worn this T shirt. He knew what
26:26
Speaker 13: Joy Division was all about, and Susan Lee was right
26:29
Speaker 13: to call him out on it and he should apologize
26:31
Speaker 13: for his actions here. If the Prime Minister had an
26:34
Speaker 13: unblemished record on anti Semitism, you might give him a
26:37
Speaker 13: leave pass for this, But too often he's abandoned the
26:40
Speaker 13: Jewish community. He's had the Seagull Report with him, the
26:43
Speaker 13: report of his own appointed Special Envoy and anti Semitism
26:46
Speaker 13: for months now and still no action.
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Speaker 11: So I think it's time he apologized.
26:51
Speaker 3: Were you disappointed to see so many of your colleagues,
26:55
Speaker 3: your own colleagues, refusing to comment on this today and
26:58
Speaker 3: refusing to support Susan Lee's very strong and very ethical
27:05
Speaker 3: and moral remarks in Parliament?
27:09
Speaker 13: Can I say, as the only Jewish member of the
27:11
Speaker 13: coalition team, I'm proud that I have a leader in
27:14
Speaker 13: Susan Lee, who stood up for the Jewish community and
27:18
Speaker 13: who stood up for all law abiding Australians just as
27:21
Speaker 13: a predecessor Peter Dutton did, and I'm very proud to
27:24
Speaker 13: serve under her leadership.
27:27
Speaker 3: Do you think this is the second week in a
27:28
Speaker 3: row we're seeing that. We also saw other MP's last
27:31
Speaker 3: week refuse to support her position when she said Kevin
27:35
Speaker 3: Rudd was untenable in the role of ambassador. So do
27:38
Speaker 3: you think this is turning into a leadership issue, that
27:41
Speaker 3: she's just not commanding the support of all of the
27:45
Speaker 3: Liberal Party.
27:47
Speaker 11: No, I don't think it is. I think Susan is
27:50
Speaker 11: doing a.
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Speaker 13: Good job in a difficult set of circumstances where we've
27:54
Speaker 13: lost two elections on the trot now, and I think
27:56
Speaker 13: she's making the right calls. Kevin Rudd did need to
27:59
Speaker 13: be held to count and the Prime Minister did need
28:02
Speaker 13: to be a hold to account on this issue as well.
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Speaker 3: No, I agree on both of these issues. She's making
28:06
Speaker 3: the right cause. But it's very divisive that her own
28:11
Speaker 3: colleagues aren't supporting her.
28:14
Speaker 13: Well, I think lots of colleagues are supporting her. Just
28:16
Speaker 13: before I came on your program, I had a look
28:20
Speaker 13: and my colleague Kevin Hogan has a National Party MP,
28:23
Speaker 13: had reposted information about the Prime Minister wearing the T
28:27
Speaker 13: shirt and Susan's comments, and I think there is broad
28:31
Speaker 13: support for what Susan is doing here.
28:33
Speaker 3: Look, just finally, on another topic, we've been seeing some
28:37
Speaker 3: concern for quite a while now about the conduct of
28:42
Speaker 3: childcare workers, particularly around sexual offenses.
28:48
Speaker 2: What action do you think needs to be taken.
28:52
Speaker 13: Well, I think we've got an epidemic of child sexual
28:54
Speaker 13: abuse in this country. I said that a few weeks
28:57
Speaker 13: ago when I was a Shadow Attorney General and it's
28:59
Speaker 13: why we have a build before the House that we
29:02
Speaker 13: want the government to debate to bring into into effect
29:05
Speaker 13: mandatory minimum sentences for child sex offenders. And obviously there
29:09
Speaker 13: have been lots of reports in recent weeks about child
29:13
Speaker 13: sexual offenses going on among childcare workers, and that's a real,
29:17
Speaker 13: really disturbing thing for anyone who is sending their child
29:20
Speaker 13: to a childcare center.
29:21
Speaker 11: The most important duty we have in.
29:23
Speaker 13: This place is to keep our children safe. And I
29:26
Speaker 13: wrote to the Minister for Education this week saying to
29:29
Speaker 13: him that we would be willing to look at any
29:31
Speaker 13: reasonable measures that would bulst that. Earlier today, I was
29:34
Speaker 13: briefed by officials from his department as to what the
29:37
Speaker 13: government is doing in this area, and it appears to
29:40
Speaker 13: me that we need to keep doing more. We've got
29:43
Speaker 13: a Senate inquiry being chaired by Maria Kavasik that's looking
29:46
Speaker 13: at these issues of quality and safety. Some of those
29:49
Speaker 13: issues are issues for the Education Department, some of those
29:52
Speaker 13: issues are for the states, and some of those issues
29:53
Speaker 13: are for the police. We need a holistic approach that
29:57
Speaker 13: these people working at the federal and state level to
30:00
Speaker 13: ensure Australians that their children who are ten childcare centers
30:03
Speaker 13: will be safe. And we won't rest until we've got
30:06
Speaker 13: to the bottom of these issues and keep asking the
30:08
Speaker 13: important questions Australian parents want us to ask.
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Speaker 3: It's absolutely critically important and nothing could be more important
30:15
Speaker 3: than the safety of children.
30:16
Speaker 2: Julian Lisa, thank you for your time. Now still to come.
30:21
Speaker 3: Donald Trump's head of counter terrorism reveals he personally confronted
30:26
Speaker 3: Kevin Rudd about his tweets.
30:29
Speaker 4: Hi first meeting with your ambassador, I brought up his
30:35
Speaker 4: tweets against the President.
30:38
Speaker 3: That exclusive interview with Sebastian Gorka right after the break
30:46
Speaker 3: Welcome Back Sebastian Gorka is the Deputy Assistant to President
30:50
Speaker 3: Trump and the Senior Director for counter Terrorism. In an
30:54
Speaker 3: exclusive interview, I asked him whether Hamas will need to
30:57
Speaker 3: be defeated militarily, his thoughts and the threat of ma'm
31:00
Speaker 3: danny is New York City mayor, and whether he thinks
31:04
Speaker 3: Donald Trump will forgive Kevin right. Here's our interview, Sebastian Gorka,
31:10
Speaker 3: terrific to have you on the show again. We've seen
31:13
Speaker 3: overnight Israel strikes on her Musk targets. Do you believe
31:17
Speaker 3: this is justified in response to her Musk breaking the
31:21
Speaker 3: peace deal?
31:22
Speaker 4: Well, to quote my immediate boss, Acting National Security Advisor,
31:27
Speaker 4: Secretary Marco Rubio, you know the charmush piece Accords is
31:31
Speaker 4: not some kind of excuse for political suicide for Israel.
31:36
Speaker 4: So absolutely, if one side is acting in bad faith
31:40
Speaker 4: or in breach of the twenty one points that President
31:43
Speaker 4: Trump brought to the table in Egypt, then of course
31:48
Speaker 4: Israel has a right to protect itself.
31:50
Speaker 1: So this is a tense time.
31:52
Speaker 4: We still have a numerous dead hostage bodies to be returned,
31:56
Speaker 4: including two US nationals. As a result this, this is
32:02
Speaker 4: going to be a difficult period. But if anyone can
32:07
Speaker 4: bring us a final resolution and get us to a
32:10
Speaker 4: point where there's twenty to twenty one metrics are met,
32:14
Speaker 4: it is the current incumbent. It is the commander in chief,
32:17
Speaker 4: it is President Trump.
32:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's incredible that he's even achieved. The return of
32:22
Speaker 3: the twenty living hostages was one of the greatest days
32:25
Speaker 3: of the past two years.
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Speaker 2: Sebastian.
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Speaker 3: It's actually not well known that you've been working incredibly
32:31
Speaker 3: closely with the families of the hostages. Can you tell
32:34
Speaker 3: us what your relationship with them has been like and
32:37
Speaker 3: what work you've been doing.
32:39
Speaker 1: I know I'd be honest.
32:41
Speaker 4: So in the Nationalcurity Council, I had the Counter Terrorism
32:45
Speaker 4: Directorate that's responsible for our counter jihadi fight across the globe.
32:49
Speaker 4: So I can report to you as of this morning
32:52
Speaker 4: here we have smited three hundred and ninety three leading
32:56
Speaker 4: jihattes around the world since Journey the twentieth, exclude the
33:00
Speaker 4: Hooty campaign. So we are back in the business of
33:03
Speaker 4: reigning down health fire on those who threaten Americans or
33:06
Speaker 4: who have killed Americans. But we also our directorate coordinates
33:11
Speaker 4: the whole of the US government when it comes to
33:13
Speaker 4: hostage policy, and as such, it has been my deep honor,
33:17
Speaker 4: a tragic one, to meet with almost on a weekly basis,
33:22
Speaker 4: with the families of those who had taken hostage American citizens,
33:26
Speaker 4: but also Israeli families who came to see me and
33:30
Speaker 4: my director for Hostage Affairs because they knew that only
33:33
Speaker 4: President Trump can bring some little modicum of closure to them.
33:37
Speaker 4: So I've met with countless I've met with former hostages
33:41
Speaker 4: who who spent three hundred, four hundred days in captivity,
33:45
Speaker 4: unbelievable tales of heroism and human fortitude. So it's one
33:50
Speaker 4: of the greatest parts of my job to meet these people,
33:53
Speaker 4: and also to support the families, especially the family of
33:58
Speaker 4: Itai Chen and also of Oman Nutra, who were killed
34:04
Speaker 4: by Hamas and whose bodies, as US citizens.
34:06
Speaker 1: Have yet to be returned.
34:08
Speaker 4: So I have close relations with both of those families,
34:11
Speaker 4: and we will never give up.
34:13
Speaker 1: We will never give in. We will get your sons back.
34:17
Speaker 2: Strong strong words there.
34:20
Speaker 3: Look, President Trump has said there'd be no American boots
34:23
Speaker 3: on the ground in Gaza, but he does expect other
34:27
Speaker 3: nations to play a role in keeping the peace. You're
34:30
Speaker 3: the counter Terraza. Do you believe Hermas still needs to
34:34
Speaker 3: be militarily defeated.
34:36
Speaker 4: Utterly and completely, without a question of a doubt. The
34:41
Speaker 4: Hamas look little, don't listen to me. Read their founding
34:45
Speaker 4: charter from the nineteen eighties. It states in its opening paragraph,
34:48
Speaker 4: we are a chapter of the Muslim Brotherhood. The Muslim
34:52
Speaker 4: Brotherhood is the progenitor of every modern jihadi organization, from
34:57
Speaker 4: al Qaeda to Isis to her Master his Blai into
35:00
Speaker 4: sheer organizations. They if they believe in global jihad and
35:04
Speaker 4: the need to kill all Christians, all Jews and all
35:08
Speaker 4: Appo states, you have genetic makeup that comes ideologically from
35:13
Speaker 4: the Muslim Brotherhood. So yes, Hamas is about jihad. Hamas
35:18
Speaker 4: is about killing all those who do not ideologically agree
35:22
Speaker 4: with them or enslaving them. So yes, unless Hamas is
35:27
Speaker 4: completely excised from that community, unless there is a new
35:32
Speaker 4: political class that fights the corruption that we've seen in
35:36
Speaker 4: that part of the world for decades now, there is
35:39
Speaker 4: no hope for the people of either Guards or the
35:42
Speaker 4: West Bank. So that's the big challenge. And the good
35:44
Speaker 4: news is we have we have some nations who are
35:47
Speaker 4: at shamashek, who have massive militaries and others who have
35:51
Speaker 4: massive GDPs, who relatively easily can assist in the stabilization
35:56
Speaker 4: and the rebuilding of what is, to all intents and purposes,
36:00
Speaker 4: a very small piece of territory in the Middle East.
36:03
Speaker 4: If those nations are serious about the recognition they profited
36:07
Speaker 4: from standing next to President Trump just a few days ago,
36:10
Speaker 4: and it's time for them to pony up. It's time
36:12
Speaker 4: for them to deploy their assets and help bring stable
36:16
Speaker 4: relations to that part of the world.
36:18
Speaker 1: And it's all doable with President Trump.
36:20
Speaker 4: President Trump had this phrase near the end of his
36:22
Speaker 4: campaign before he won for a second time or should
36:25
Speaker 4: I say a third time. He said, you know what
36:27
Speaker 4: it is about Americans. We make the impossible look easy.
36:31
Speaker 4: Nothing is out of the question with President Trump at
36:34
Speaker 4: the helm.
36:35
Speaker 2: Just a quick follow up to that.
36:37
Speaker 3: So you don't expect Himus will voluntarily disarm as the
36:40
Speaker 3: President has been urging them to do. It is going
36:43
Speaker 3: to require a military action.
36:46
Speaker 4: I'm not a betting man, but I would not, in
36:50
Speaker 4: any way, shape or form bet that an organization that
36:54
Speaker 4: has pledged fealty to an ideology that wants to see
36:59
Speaker 4: all Jews an Apple States killed or enslaved voluntarily laying
37:04
Speaker 4: down a button knife, let alone an RPG or a
37:07
Speaker 4: machine gun.
37:08
Speaker 3: Just on another topic, we've seen Zoran Mamdani appearing alongside
37:13
Speaker 3: Islamic extremists while he's campaigning, and he just did a
37:17
Speaker 3: big rally as well, of course with.
37:19
Speaker 2: AOC and Bernie Sanders.
37:21
Speaker 3: He's now on track at this point to win the
37:24
Speaker 3: New York City mayoralty race. I mean, is it unfathomable
37:28
Speaker 3: to you that someone who is this anti American can
37:32
Speaker 3: be on the cusp of victory in New York.
37:35
Speaker 4: So, unlike my predecessors in the some ambulent bid administration,
37:41
Speaker 4: I respect the Hatch Act, so I will not make
37:44
Speaker 4: partisan political statements on behalf of one candidate or another.
37:47
Speaker 4: But I will tell you one thing. In my skiff,
37:50
Speaker 4: So in my secure compartmented information facility where we do
37:53
Speaker 4: our classified work every day, there is a giant poster
37:56
Speaker 4: of the Twin Towers behind my classified comput terminal. For
38:01
Speaker 4: a reason, the fact that we will be commemorating the
38:06
Speaker 4: twenty fifth anniversary of the greatest terrorist attack against the
38:10
Speaker 4: United States and the modern age next September, and to
38:13
Speaker 4: see what we are seeing in the political race in
38:16
Speaker 4: New York is absolutely goreling to me as somebody who's
38:20
Speaker 4: been working in this field for a quarter of a century.
38:22
Speaker 4: So I know twenty five years is a long time.
38:25
Speaker 4: But hopefully, hopefully all Americans, the majority of Americans, and
38:30
Speaker 4: the majority of New Yorkers, will remember why those hijackers
38:36
Speaker 4: chose New York, why they chose the Twin Towers, and
38:40
Speaker 4: why those three thousand Americans had to die. So I'm
38:42
Speaker 4: not going to make any predictions, but at the end
38:44
Speaker 4: of the day, in this building, in the White House,
38:47
Speaker 4: we will fight, fight, fight, We will never give up,
38:50
Speaker 4: and we will continue to arrest and kill gi huddies
38:54
Speaker 4: and keep America safe.
38:56
Speaker 3: Just finally, President Trump told Australian ambassador Kevin rad last week,
39:01
Speaker 3: I don't like you, and I probably never will. He
39:04
Speaker 3: then said a couple of days later that he doesn't
39:06
Speaker 3: forget when people say bad things about him. And as
39:11
Speaker 3: you know, Kevin Rhight has caught him a village idiot.
39:13
Speaker 3: He said he was a traitor to the West and
39:15
Speaker 3: the most destructive president sab do you think Trump will
39:20
Speaker 3: ever forgive Kevin?
39:21
Speaker 2: Right?
39:22
Speaker 4: President Trump is one of the most gracious and magnanimous
39:24
Speaker 4: men I have had the honor of knowing and especially
39:28
Speaker 4: working for I'm not going to comment on what the
39:31
Speaker 4: President did, but I'll tell you something.
39:33
Speaker 1: In my first meeting with your.
39:36
Speaker 4: Ambassador, I brought up his tweets against the President, just
39:42
Speaker 4: to make sure that he understands who we are and
39:45
Speaker 4: that we have very long memories and the internet is
39:48
Speaker 4: forever and my recommendation. I did this for another ambassador
39:51
Speaker 4: who had said unfortunate things before he became ambassador. You
39:57
Speaker 4: know what, you need to publicly apologize, and you know
40:00
Speaker 4: what he did. That ambassador publicly apologized and it made
40:05
Speaker 4: a difference.
40:06
Speaker 1: I'll end on this note.
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Speaker 4: We are living in history, every single one of us,
40:11
Speaker 4: everyone in Australia, everyone in Europe, everyone in Asia, Africa,
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Speaker 4: the Americas. We are living in historic times right now,
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Speaker 4: and we have a president who is performing tectonically significant
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Speaker 4: historic acts every single day.
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Speaker 1: The greatest challenge we have in.
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Speaker 4: This White House is keeping up with this man, which
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Speaker 4: is absolutely impossible. My message to everyone in government that
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Speaker 4: I make every single day, and to the foreign nations
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Speaker 4: and governments I meet, is if you don't understand who
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Speaker 4: President Trump is and understand the opportunity you have to
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Speaker 4: better your country to make it safer and to prosper.
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Speaker 4: Shame on you join us whoever you are, and we
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Speaker 4: will prosper and we will be safe together if you
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Speaker 4: share our values. That is my message to every ambassador,
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Speaker 4: every Prime minister, and every president. Some of them have
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Speaker 4: gotten it already, they were at schau Malshaik. Others it
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Speaker 4: may take a little bit longer, but you're living in
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Speaker 4: historic times and this is a historic president. So pay attention,
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Speaker 4: step up and join the cool kids.
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Speaker 2: When did you.
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Speaker 3: Give Kevin Rudd that advice to publicly apologize? Roughly how
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Speaker 3: long ago did you meet with him?
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Speaker 1: I didn't give him that advice.
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Speaker 4: Specifically, I brought up his importune tweets and comments in
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Speaker 4: our first meeting together, right at the beginning of the administration.
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Speaker 4: I advise another ambassador to publicly apologize.
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Speaker 1: But you make your bed and you lie in it, right, And.
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Speaker 2: What did Kevin Rudd say when you brought this up?
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Speaker 4: That would be indiscreet of meta? All I say is
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Speaker 4: he smiled or wry smile when when he you know,
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Speaker 4: I'm not a diplomat, I would be an absolutely disastrous
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Speaker 4: ambassador or a diplomat. I don't do I don't do
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Speaker 4: niceties for nice sakes. So when I speak plain speak
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Speaker 4: like President Trump, sometime times diplomats don't know how to react.
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Speaker 4: That's okay. I sent them my message. It's up to
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Speaker 4: them to draw the conclusions or to ignore my advice
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Speaker 4: or the President's advice.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.
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Speaker 3: Sebastian Gorka, thank you very much for making the time
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Speaker 3: for this. And keep up the fight against terrorists on
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Speaker 3: behalf of the West.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: That's the plan. God bless you and your viewers. Thank you.
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Speaker 13: All right.
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Speaker 3: Still to come the devastating impact of Hurricane Melissa in
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Speaker 3: Jamaica and Chris Bowen under fire over the closure of
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Speaker 3: Australia's largest aluminium smelter.
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Speaker 2: That's next.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back, we as we're going to air. Right now,
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Speaker 3: President Trump is sitting with world leaders. They're sitting down
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Speaker 3: to dinner at the APEC summit in South Korea. This
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Speaker 3: footage is not live right now as we're speaking, they're
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Speaker 3: sitting down to dinner. This is moments ago the world
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Speaker 3: leaders were chatting there. You can see Australian Prime Minister.
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Speaker 3: Of course, we'll bring you some more live footage as
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Speaker 3: we have it, but right now Trump is starting the
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Speaker 3: informal meetings, having dinner with the world leaders.
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Speaker 2: We'll bring you updates all.
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Speaker 3: Right, Climate at Minister Chris Bowlin says the government isn't
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Speaker 3: interested in playing the blame game over why more than
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Speaker 3: a thousand jobs could be lost at the Tomago aluminium smelter.
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Speaker 3: As you know, the plant could close by twenty twenty
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Speaker 3: eight because of rising electricity costs. Let's bring in now
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Speaker 3: senior energy analyst at MSD Financial kavanych Sol.
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Speaker 2: Good to see you. So how much is the.
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Speaker 3: Government in your opinion to blame for Tomogo's possible closure.
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Speaker 15: Well, it was exceptionally rich for Minister Chris bowl And
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Speaker 15: to say he doesn't want to play the blame game,
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Speaker 15: because if he was to play a lot of the blame,
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Speaker 15: he's going to end up on his doorstep. It's worth
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Speaker 15: bearing in mind. So we've got the twelve hundred jobs
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Speaker 15: at the Tomago smelter, but this comes on the heel
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Speaker 15: of a lot of manufacturing closing across Australia because of
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Speaker 15: high and unreliable high prices and unreliable energy supply. We've
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Speaker 15: had the Quinos Plastics manufacturing Pracinc to Victoria shut down
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Speaker 15: We've had Alcohola's smelter in Western Australia. We've had a
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Speaker 15: glass Manufactura she and Glass shutting down after one hundred
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Speaker 15: and seventy years here, and we've had the Bayala steel
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Speaker 15: Works that need to be bailed out. Those are just
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Speaker 15: the companies, remember who have a big enough to have
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Speaker 15: the lobbing presence to make the headlines. There are many,
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Speaker 15: many other smaller and mid size manufacturers we are shutting
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Speaker 15: down because of high power prices. And the irony here
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Speaker 15: is the Labor Party, which was founded by blue collar
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Speaker 15: union is actually presiding over the demise, the biggest demise
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Speaker 15: in blue collar manufacturing jobs in a generation, all going
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Speaker 15: back to failed energy policy since twenty twenty two which
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Speaker 15: has driven up prices and unreliability so that our big
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Speaker 15: energy intensive manufacturing sectors can no longer survive.
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Speaker 3: National Senator Matt Canavan has said that the Prime Minister
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Speaker 3: should apologize for using the Tomago smelter as a photo
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Speaker 3: opportunity in his election campaign. I mean that was just
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Speaker 3: in January this year, but now appearing to leave workers
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Speaker 3: in the lurch. Do you think there should be an
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Speaker 3: apology here from the government given the smelter House cited
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Speaker 3: high electricity costs as one of the biggest issues.
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Speaker 15: Well, alban Easy was there earlier in the year touting
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Speaker 15: the green future and the provision of Australia of government
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Speaker 15: green credits for Tomago, and now we're seeing it shutting down.
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Speaker 15: And the whole point is when you've got a you know,
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Speaker 15: this is like a patient who's bleeding out of life
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Speaker 15: support and the governments come like a natural killer and
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Speaker 15: saying you should do crystal therapy. They actually need cheaper,
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Speaker 15: reliable power right now. They don't need the promise of
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Speaker 15: maybe getting a green credit in the future from green power,
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Speaker 15: which may or may not arrive given all the problems
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Speaker 15: in energy posit which he's not. Remember, it's not just
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Speaker 15: causing a slowdown in fossil fuel generation, but it's actually
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Speaker 15: holding back a lot of renewable generation as well. Everyone's
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Speaker 15: turned out to be a loser here. And I really
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Speaker 15: think we should see ministers right up at the Tomago
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Speaker 15: site in the high Viz explaining to the workers what's
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Speaker 15: going on and what they're actually going to do to
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Speaker 15: change the course going forward.
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Speaker 2: But of course they won't do that. They'll be nowhere
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Speaker 2: near it.
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Speaker 3: Now, do you think we're going to see more businesses,
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Speaker 3: particularly in the manufacturing sector, potentially shut just because of
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Speaker 3: high regulation and energy costs.
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Speaker 15: Absolutely, this is just the beginning. Every time you see
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Speaker 15: a big manufacturing facility like this shut down, it actually
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Speaker 15: then has cascading effects on the ecosystem around it, and
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Speaker 15: you see a lot of medium sized manufacturers often close
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Speaker 15: off the back of it. It's worth bearing in mind,
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Speaker 15: you know, particularly coming you know, just listening to your
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Speaker 15: previous segment, what's happening now globally and the national security
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Speaker 15: we suppose is making securing our critical supply chains all
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Speaker 15: the more important. It's making sure we can win in
47:28
Speaker 15: the AI race all the more important. All of this
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Speaker 15: is anchored on having an energy advantage and Australia's had
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Speaker 15: that energy advantage for decades and it's now being lost
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Speaker 15: over the last several years, and our policy has deserted
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Speaker 15: our blue collar jobs. We've seen our policy dessert Australia's
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Speaker 15: energy advantage as it's panders to this kind of grange
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Speaker 15: fringe and activist group. And now we're all starting to
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Speaker 15: pay the price. And it's Australia's workers in manufacturing plants
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Speaker 15: who are paying it.
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Speaker 3: The most severely right, that's terrible job, loss of soul,
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Now coming up the devastating impact
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Speaker 3: of Hurricane Melissa in Jamaica.
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Speaker 2: It's next.
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Speaker 3: Let's turn our thoughts now to Jamaica, where Hurricane Melissa
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Speaker 3: has brought chaos and destruction. The island was battered by
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Speaker 3: winds reaching up to three hundred kilometers an hour, leaving
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Speaker 3: three quarters of Jamaicans without power. Now have a look
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Speaker 3: at this, as one CNN reporter battled the winds during
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Speaker 3: a live cross.
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Speaker 5: Very strong winds and varians has rain, but I'm happy
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Speaker 5: to report that the city was spared the worst of
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Speaker 5: the catastrophic dabbage.
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Speaker 3: And tonight, Hurricane Melissa has now made landfall in Cuba.
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Speaker 3: It's been labeled the storm of the century, and while
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Speaker 3: no lives have been lost, the Prime Minister has urged
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Speaker 3: Jamaicans to brace for potential loss of life. And often
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Speaker 3: we don't see the full impact for days to come.
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Speaker 3: And now we're yet to see the devastation in Cuba,
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Speaker 3: where already, you know, there are so many old and
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Speaker 3: beautiful buildings that just hanging on. They've been standing there
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Speaker 3: for such a long time. So our thoughts go out
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Speaker 3: to everyone struggling on the other side of the world tonight,
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Speaker 3: all right, and shortly we're going to see more of
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Speaker 3: President Trump, Anthony Albanezi, and other world leaders, including Chinese
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Speaker 3: President Shujinping, as they meet in South Korea for APEX.
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Speaker 3: I'm sure Paul will have a bit more on that
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Speaker 3: with you later. This footage happening just a few moments ago.
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Speaker 3: All right, thanks so much for your company tonight. I'll
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Speaker 3: see you tomorrow as always at eight pm.
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Speaker 2: And here's for Murray.