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Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein And The Police Report That Exposed Him (Part 8-10) (11/7/26) · Beyond The Horizon

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: In this episode we're going to pick up where we
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: left off with the Palm Beach police report into Jeffrey
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Epstein's bitch ass behavior the first time around. We're going
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: to pick back up with Joseph Rakari and his narrative.
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: On October 12, 2005, Detective Dawson and I traveled to
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: the Orlando area and made telephone contact with Redacted and
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: Redacted and agreed to meet with us as we were
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: in the Orlando area. Redacted provided directions to her apartment.
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: Detective Dawson and I met with Redacted who stated during
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: the sworn tape statement that nothing happened between her and Epstein.
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: Redacted appeared nervous during the interview. I assured her that
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: I had spoken with other people who advised differently. Redacted
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: stated she only went a couple of times and provided
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: a massage to Epstein. She stated she was brought to
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: the Epstein house in March of 2005. Redacted brought her
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: to work. Redacted has no formal training in providing massages.
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: Redacted stated she provided a massage, fully clothed, for $ 200.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: As I sensed hesitancy in her answers, I asked Redacted
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: if she had been contacted by anyone from the house.
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: Redacted stated, She was interviewed already by an investigator for Epstein.
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  Speaker 1: He met with her on October 8, 2005, at a
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: roadhouse in Orlando. He identified himself as Paul and inquired
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: about the police investigation and left his telephone number redacted
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: for additional contact. Redacted provided no additional information as it
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: appeared her responses were almost scripted. We left the area
• 1:40
  Speaker 1: and returned to Palm Beach Police Department. Based on the
• 1:43
  Speaker 1: information acquired during the interviews, a search warrant was prepared
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: for entry at the Epstein home. On October 18, 2005,
• 1:51
  Speaker 1: I met with Judge Laura Johnson, who reviewed the warrant request.
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  Speaker 1: She found that there was sufficient probable cause and signed
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  Speaker 1: the warrant request. On October 20, 2005, at approximately 9.36 a.m.,
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: members of the Palm Beach Police Department Investigation Unit executed
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  Speaker 1: the search warrant at 358 Elbrio Way in Palm Beach.
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  Speaker 1: Members of the investigations unit included Captain Gudger, Sergeant Frick,
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  Speaker 1: Detective Dix, Detective Dawson, Detective Melanchok, Detective Sandman, Detective Kroll,
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  Speaker 1: the crime scene unit, and myself. As we entered onto
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: the property, we encountered the house manager, Janus Banasik, who
• 2:32
  Speaker 1: was in the guest portion of the house. The guest
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: house section had open doors and no forced entry was made.
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  Speaker 1: I made contact with Banasik date of birth redacted Florida
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  Speaker 1: driver's license redacted and informed them that the search warrant
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: for the premises. The members of the police department entered
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  Speaker 1: the residence and announced we had a search warrant. A
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  Speaker 1: safety search was done and members exited the home. I
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  Speaker 1: read the search warrant to Banasek as manager Parkinson videotaped
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: the search warrant execution. Several interior decorators and were located
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  Speaker 1: on the property. I spoke with Mark Zeff of Redacted
• 3:08
  Speaker 1: New York. Mr. Zeff stated he is the designer for Mr.
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: Epstein's homes. He advised he was contacted in March of
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: 2005 to do a complete overhaul of the house. He
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  Speaker 1: advised he was on the phone with Mr. Epstein when
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: officers announced the search warrant. Mr. Epstein was then made
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  Speaker 1: aware of the search warrant. Mr. Zeph advised his contact
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  Speaker 1: with Epstein is strictly business, and he has never witnessed
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: Epstein with any girls except for his assistant Sarah or Nadia.
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  Speaker 1: I then interviewed Daniel Estes of Redacted in New York. Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Estes stated he has worked for Zeph for seven years.
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  Speaker 1: He advised he personally worked on the New York and
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: Palm Beach home for Mr. Epstein. He has previously met
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  Speaker 1: with Sarah and Adriana, Epstein's assistants in New York and
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  Speaker 1: in Florida. Estes stated they travel with Epstein everywhere he goes.
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  Speaker 1: I interviewed Zara Bailey of Redacted New Jersey. Bailey stated
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  Speaker 1: she just arrived from Scotland and has worked with Zeph
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  Speaker 1: for only one month. She stated she has never met
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  Speaker 1: Epstein and has not seen him. The interview was then concluded.
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  Speaker 1: I then spoke with Douglas Schotel, Redacted New York City.
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  Speaker 1: Schodl stated that he had been Epstein's architect for seven years.
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  Speaker 1: He stated further that he deals with Epstein's assistants and
• 4:23
  Speaker 1: speaks with Epstein on the phone. Schodl stated that he
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: mainly speaks with Sarah Kellen, Epstein's main assistant, who travels
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  Speaker 1: with Epstein. Schodl stated he only has contact with Epstein
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  Speaker 1: when his services are needed. At approximately 10.30 a.m., I
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  Speaker 1: was informed that the videotaping was concluded. I entered the
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  Speaker 1: residence and located two covert hidden cameras. The first camera
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  Speaker 1: was a covert wall clock in the garage area. I
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  Speaker 1: traced the wire behind the clock and removed the RCA
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  Speaker 1: wire and unplugged the camera. The other covert camera was
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  Speaker 1: located within the desk clock beside Epstein's desk. I traced
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  Speaker 1: the wire behind the clock and I unplugged the RCA wire.
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  Speaker 1: I could not locate another camera. I then began with
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  Speaker 1: the search of the residence for the specified evidence. My
• 5:10
  Speaker 1: search consisted of the second floor, Detective Crowell and I
• 5:14
  Speaker 1: began in the master bedroom area, where several items were located.
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  Speaker 1: They were marked to be retrieved by the evidence custodian.
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  Speaker 1: In the master desk with Epstein's notepads marked Jeffrey Epstein,
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  Speaker 1: we located a high school transcript from Redacted's high school
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: for Redacted. Also in the room was the dresser, where
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  Speaker 1: we located a bottle of peach-flavored joy jelly, sexual lubricant. Additionally,
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: there were several photographs of of young naked teenage girls
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: within the closet, which was consistent with what the witness
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  Speaker 1: had said. The massage table was also located within the
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: master bedroom. Videotapes were located beside the television, which were
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  Speaker 1: also collected. An itemized list of the property and locations
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  Speaker 1: was prepared on the property receipts. At approximately 2.55 p.m.,
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  Speaker 1: the house was secured. The exit of the residence was videotaped.
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  Speaker 1: Upon our exit of the property, I encountered attorney Guy Fronstein,
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  Speaker 1: who advised he was representing Mr. Epstein. He provided a
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  Speaker 1: business card and provided his assistance with the investigation. Due
• 6:18
  Speaker 1: to Hurricane Wilma, which struck South Florida, causing massive power outages,
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  Speaker 1: the courthouse was closed due to the lack of power.
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  Speaker 1: I was previously told that the chief judge, had extended
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  Speaker 1: the filing deadlines due to the hurricane and the courtroom
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  Speaker 1: being closed. On October 27th and 28th, 2005, the courthouse
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  Speaker 1: was closed and I could not file the search warrant
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  Speaker 1: and inventory at the clerk's office. On October 31st, 2005,
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  Speaker 1: I responded to the courthouse and filed the paperwork along
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  Speaker 1: with an order to seal, signed by Judge Johnson to
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  Speaker 1: deny any releases of any paperwork on this case. On
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  Speaker 1: October 20th, 2005, at approximately 8.30 a.m. Thursday morning, I
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  Speaker 1: was advised by Captain Gudger that a search warrant would
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  Speaker 1: be executed and that I was to assemble the crime
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  Speaker 1: scene investigative team and stand by the south side of
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: the building ready to go. And this narrative now, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, is by Gregory Parkinson. I designated evidence specialist
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  Speaker 1: Annette Badger to handle the inventory return, the documentation of
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: the property receipts, and the collection and bagging of the
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  Speaker 1: evidence at the scene. I further instructed CSI Kim Pavlik,
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  Speaker 1: ID number 8807, to accompany us and perform the role
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  Speaker 1: of photographing the scene and the items that may be
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: taken into custody by the affiant Detective Joseph Rakari, ID 7915.
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  Speaker 1: My responsibility was to go through from the reading of
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  Speaker 1: the warrant to the final exit from the residence and
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  Speaker 1: perform a video recording of the reading of the warrant
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  Speaker 1: the initial walkthrough of the residence, showing the current condition,
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  Speaker 1: and then finally a walkthrough of the residence at the
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  Speaker 1: time of the police exit. We started out towards the residence,
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: which was located at 358 El Brío and arrived at
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  Speaker 1: approximately 9.33 a.m. The search was conducted. Items were collected
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  Speaker 1: by evidence specialist Badger, photographed by CSI Pavlik, and then
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  Speaker 1: videotaped by myself. The search was concluded at approximately 3.05 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: whereupon Detective Ricari and I were the last two officers
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  Speaker 1: in the house. Upon securing the residence, we met with
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: the gentleman who identifies himself to Detective Ricari as the
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  Speaker 1: lawyer for the defendant, and he was informed that the
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  Speaker 1: residence was secured and that copies of the inventory returned
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  Speaker 1: had been left on the first floor table of the
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  Speaker 1: personal assistance office. Detective Ricari and I returned to police
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  Speaker 1: headquarters and secured for the day. The next section is
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  Speaker 1: the narrative of Michael Dawson. On October 20, 2005, I
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  Speaker 1: assisted Detective Ricari in the execution of a search warrant
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  Speaker 1: at 358 El Brío Way. Upon the announcement of the
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  Speaker 1: search warrant, immediate contact was made with the three white
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  Speaker 1: males who came out of the house or surrounding structures.
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  Speaker 1: Those males were identified as Janice Banasik, Daniel Estes, and
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  Speaker 1: Mark Zeff. As other members of the police department cleared
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  Speaker 1: the home, I kept watch over these three males. Once
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  Speaker 1: the house was cleared, those males were turned over to
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  Speaker 1: Detective Ricari. Detective Dix and I were assigned to assist
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  Speaker 1: in the search of the main house, the cabana, and
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  Speaker 1: the servants' quarters. We started in the garage. All areas
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  Speaker 1: of the garage were searched to include four vehicles. These
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  Speaker 1: vehicles were three black Mercedes-Benz cars registered to Jeffrey Epstein.
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  Speaker 1: The fourth vehicle was a Harley-Davidson motorcycle, green in color,
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  Speaker 1: registered to Jeffrey Epstein. Nothing was recovered from the garage.
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  Speaker 1: A towel closet and pantry located off the kitchen was
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  Speaker 1: searched and yielded negative results. The kitchen was searched and
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  Speaker 1: taken into evidence was a phone message book that was
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  Speaker 1: located near a house phone. North of the kitchen was
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: an office room which contained a computer. The room had
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: a closet that contained a locked gun locker. The combination
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: was entered by Banasik in the presence of Sergeant Frick
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  Speaker 1: and the safe was opened. Items were taken from the room.
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  Speaker 1: See the completed property receipt for a detailed list. A
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: green bathroom located on the first floor was searched and
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  Speaker 1: nothing was taken. A closet located just west of the
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: green bathroom was searched. Two massage tables were located in
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  Speaker 1: the closet along with a photo of a nude female
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  Speaker 1: from the waist up. See the property receipt for details.
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  Speaker 1: I searched two bedrooms and their adjoining bathrooms which were
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  Speaker 1: located on the second floor of the east side of
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  Speaker 1: the house. In the northeast bedroom closet I found adult
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  Speaker 1: sex toys called twin torpedoes. Soap made in the shape
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  Speaker 1: of a penis and a vagina were also found in
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  Speaker 1: these upstairs bedrooms. See the property receipt for details. I
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  Speaker 1: searched the pool cabana located on the south side of
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  Speaker 1: the pool. Photos were taken from the wall. See the
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  Speaker 1: property receipt for details. I assisted in the search of
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  Speaker 1: Banasik's living quarters. Numerous CDs along with a message book
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  Speaker 1: was seized. See the property receipt for details. All right, folks,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to wrap up right here. And in the
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  Speaker 1: next episode, we're going to pick up where we left off.
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  Speaker 1: All the information that goes with this episode can be
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: back to the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're diving
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: right back in to the Palm Beach Police report into
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. And to do that, once again, we're picking
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  Speaker 1: up with the narrative of Detective Rakari. On November 1st, 2005,
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  Speaker 1: I was contacted by attorney Gus Fronstein, who advised he
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: was willing to assist with the investigation. Attorney Fronstein advised
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: he would try to have his client, Jeffrey Epstein, available
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: to be interviewed. I explained I would be interested in
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: conducting an interview with this client as well as other
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: employees that are employees within the house. Attorney Fronstein advised
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: he would return my call once he received confirmation on
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: the interviews. On November 6, 2005, I attempted to contact
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: with redacted at her residence. I left a business card
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  Speaker 1: for her to return my call. Upon returning to the
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: police department, I had received a telephone call from Redacted.
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: I returned her call at Redacted and spoke with Redacted.
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  Speaker 1: She made arrangements to respond to the station to provide
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: an interview. At approximately 3.30 p.m., she arrived at the
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: Palm Beach Police Station with her boyfriend. Her boyfriend was
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: allowed to sit in the lobby area while Ms. Redacted
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  Speaker 1: was interviewed. It took Ms. Redacted to the Detective Bureau
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: interview room. I closed the door for privacy and explained
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: to her that I appreciated her coming to the police
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: station for the interview. During the sworn tape statement, she
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  Speaker 1: advised she was at Jeffrey Epstein's house one time approximately
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  Speaker 1: two months ago. She was approached by a girl, Redacted,
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: who was dating her roommate to make some quick money.
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: Redacted advised that she was in need to make some
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: quick cash to make the rent that month, and she
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: agreed to go to the house. She had been told
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: by Redacted that the massage... would have to be done
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  Speaker 1: in her underwear. She advised Redacted drove with her and
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: brought her into the house. They walked into the kitchen
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: area and took the stairs upstairs. Redacted further stated she
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: was brought into a master bedroom area. She advised she
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: recalled seeing portraits of naked women throughout the room. A
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: massage table was already out near the sauna shower area
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  Speaker 1: in the master bedroom. Epstein entered the room wearing only
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: a towel and introduced himself as Jeff. Redacted advised she
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: recalled she and redacted removed their clothes down to their panties.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein lay on his stomach area and they provided a
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: massage on his legs and feet area. I asked redacted
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  Speaker 1: if she had any formal massage training and she replied no.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted advised she was topless and the panties she wore
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: were the boy shorts laced panties. She and redacted continued
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  Speaker 1: the massage until the last 10 minutes of the massage.
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: Epstein told redacted to leave the room so that he
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: could finish the massage. Redacted got dressed and Epstein turned
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  Speaker 1: over onto his back. Epstein then removed the towel which
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: had been around his waist. Epstein lay there naked and
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: requested that Redacted rub his chest area. Redacted stated, as
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: she did this, Epstein began masturbating. As she rubbed his chest,
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: Redacted stated, he pulled down her boy short, panties, and
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: he produced a large white vibrator with a large head.
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  Speaker 1: She stated it was within a drawer in his master bathroom.
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  Speaker 1: He rubbed the vibrator on her vagina area. Redacted advised
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  Speaker 1: he never penetrated her vagina with the vibrator. He continued
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  Speaker 1: to rub her vagina with the vibrator as he continued
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  Speaker 1: to masturbate. Redacted stated she was very uncomfortable during the
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: incident but knew it was almost over. Epstein climaxed and
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: started to remove himself from the table. He wiped himself.
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  Speaker 1: With the towel he had on previously and went into
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  Speaker 1: the shower area, Redacted got dressed and met with Redacted
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  Speaker 1: in the kitchen area. Epstein came into the kitchen and
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  Speaker 1: provided Redacted $ 200 for bringing Redacted and paid $ 200 to
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Redacted for providing the massage. Redacted was told to leave
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  Speaker 1: her telephone number with Sarah, his assistant for future contact.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Redacted provided her cellular telephone number for future contact. Redacted
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  Speaker 1: was asked if she was recently contacted about this investigation
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  Speaker 1: by anyone from Epstein's organization. She replied she was called,
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  Speaker 1: but it was for work. She stated she was called
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: by Sarah for her to return to work for Epstein.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Redacted stated work is the term used by Sarah to
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: provide the massage and underwear. Redacted advised she declined as
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: she was not comfortable in providing that type of work.
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  Speaker 1: The interview was concluded and the videotape was placed into evidence.
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  Speaker 1: The investigation continues. The next narrative is from Joseph Ricari
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  Speaker 1: as well. On November 7, 2005, I made telephone contact
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  Speaker 1: with Redacted, who advised she would be able to meet
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  Speaker 1: with me at her home. Detective Sandman and I traveled
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  Speaker 1: to her home in Royal Palm Beach and made contact
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  Speaker 1: with Redacted. During a sworn tape statement, Redacted stated she
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: met Jeffrey Epstein through Haley Robson. Robson would approach females
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: who wished to work for him. Redacted stated, she was
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: asked to work for him but declined. Redacted explained that
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: work means to give massages. She was asked about any
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: formal training in providing massages to which she said no.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Redacted said she had accompanied Robson and other females who
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: were taken to Epstein's house to provide massages. Redacted further
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  Speaker 1: stated she had been to the house approximately four or
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  Speaker 1: five times in the past year. She accompanied Robson with
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  Speaker 1: Redacted and Redacted, the 14-year-old victim, and redacted each time
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  Speaker 1: the girls were taken over. They were previously told they
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: would have to provide a massage, possibly naked. It was
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: also told that should Epstein require them to do anything extra,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: and they were not comfortable just to tell him, and
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: he would stop. Redacted stated Robson received $ 200 for each
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: girl she brought over to massage Jeffrey Epstein. When I
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: asked which girl appeared to be the youngest, she replied
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: the victim, as she stated she was 15 years old
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: at the most. She looked really young. Redacted further stated,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: each time she went to the house, she sat in
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: the kitchen and walked with Robson until the massage was over.
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  Speaker 1: She further stated that the cook would make lunch or
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: a snack for them as they waited. I asked her
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: if there was anything that caught her attention within the home.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Redacted stated that there were a lot of naked girls
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  Speaker 1: in photographs throughout the house. The interview was concluded and
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: the tape was turned into evidence. The investigation continues. And
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: moving into the next narrative, it is still Joseph Ricari.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Detective Dawson and I attempted contact with Redacted in Royal
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Palm Beach. I left my business card at her front door. Ms.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Redacted returned my phone call and arranged a meeting with
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: me at the Palm Beach Police Department for November 8, 2005.
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  Speaker 1: At approximately 2 p.m., Redacted arrived at the Palm Beach
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Police Department. She was brought into the interview room and
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: the door was closed for privacy. She was told that
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I appreciate her coming to the police station for questioning
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: regarding an ongoing investigation. She was told that I was
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: investigating her crime involving Jeffrey Epstein and knew, based on
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: the investigation, that she had encounters with him in the past.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: During a sworn tape statement, Redacted stated that she had
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: met Epstein approximately two years ago. She was first introduced
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: to Epstein by Haley Robson. Robson approached her about working
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: for Epstein. providing a massage to him for $ 200 a day.
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  Speaker 1: The arrangements were made, as Robson could not take her
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: the day the arrangements were made. Redacted took Redacted, Redacted
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: also attended Redacted High School and was familiar with Epstein.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted recalled she was brought to an area and entered
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: through the back kitchen door. She had met with an assistant, Sarah,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: and another assistant, Adriana. Sarah brought her upstairs as she
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: observed several photographs of naked females throughout the house. Redacted
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: stated Epstein came in the room wearing only a towel
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: and laid on the table. Redacted stated he picked out
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: the oils he wanted her to use and requested she
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: remove her clothing, provide the massage. Redacted stated that on
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: the first massage she provided, she did not remove her clothing.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Redacted stated she had returned several times after that. Each
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: time she returned, more things happened. Redacted stated that the
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: same thing would happen. Epstein would walk into the master bedroom,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: bathroom area wearing only a towel. He would masturbate as
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: she provided a massage. Redacted stated she was unsure if
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: he climaxed as he masturbated under the towel. Additionally, she
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: never looked below his waist. She claimed that Epstein would
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: convince her to remove her clothes. She eventually removed her
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: clothes and stayed in her thong panties. On occasion, Epstein
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: would use a massager vibrator, which she described as white
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: in color, with a large head on her. Every time
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: she provided a massage, he would masturbate. Redacted added she
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: has no formal training in providing a massage. Redacted stated
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: she brought two females during her visits to provide massages.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Redacted stated she brought a girl named Redacted and Redacted
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: from Redacted High School. Redacted stated she received $ 200 for
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: each girl she brought. Additionally, Redacted was given $ 200 for
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: taking her in the very beginning. The interview was concluded
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: and the tape was placed into evidence. The investigation continues.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: The next section is The Narrative by Detective Ricari continued.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: On November 8, 2005, I made telephone contact with Redacted,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: who was born in 1987 at a residence. Redacted responded
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: to the police station for an interview reference and ongoing investigation.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: At approximately 2.30 p.m., she arrived at the Palm Beach
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Police Station and was brought into the interview room for
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: an interview. The door was closed for privacy, and she
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: was told that I appreciated her cooperation in the case.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: During a sworn tape statement, Redacted stated that she had
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: met Jeffrey Epstein approximately one year ago. She was approached
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: by a subject, Known to her as Redacted, Redacted had
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: asked her if she had wanted to make money providing
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: massages to Epstein. Redacted had heard that several girls from
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Redacted High School were doing this and making money. She
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: agreed and was taken to the house by Redacted. Redacted
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: had introduced her to Sarah and Epstein and brought her
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: upstairs to the master bedroom and master bathroom where a
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: massage table was prepared and the proper oils were taken out.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Redacted left the room and waited downstairs for Redacted Redacted
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: stated Epstein entered the room wearing only a towel, and
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: she provided a massage wearing only her thong panties. Redacted
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: advised Epstein had masturbated every time she provided a massage.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: She stated Epstein continued to masturbate until he climaxed. Once
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: that occurred, the massage was over. She felt the whole
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: situation was weird, but she advised she was paid $ 200
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: for providing the massage. She also stated Redacted received $ 200
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: for bringing Redacted to Epstein. Redacted stated she had gone
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: a total of 15 times to his residence to provide
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: a massage and things had escalated from just providing a massage.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Epstein began touching her on her buttocks and grabbed her
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: closer to him as he masturbated. Epstein also grabbed her
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: breasts and fondled her breasts with his hands as she
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: provided the massage. Redacted stated on one occasion he offered
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: extra monies to have vaginal intercourse. She stated this all
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: occurred on the massage table. Redacted stated that Epstein penetrated
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: her vagina with his penis and began having intercourse with
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: her until he reached the point of climax. Epstein removed
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: his penis from her vagina and climaxed onto the massage table.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Redacted received $ 350 for her massage. I asked her if
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: she had any formal training in providing massages and she
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: stated she did not. Redacted continued to state on one
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: other occasion Epstein introduced his assistant Nadia into the massage.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Nadia was brought into the room with Redacted to provide
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: a massage. Epstein had them kiss and fondle each other
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: around the breasts and buttocks, and they provided a massage
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: to Epstein. Epstein watched and masturbated as this occurred. On
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: other occasions, Epstein introduced the large white vibrator massager during
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: the massage. Epstein stroked the vibrator massager on Redacted's vagina
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: as she provided the massage. Redacted stated the last time
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: She spoke with anyone at the house was with Sarah
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: during the weekend of October 2nd or 3rd, 2005. Redacted
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: stated she had brought two people to the Epstein house.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: She provided the names of Redacted and Redacted, unknown last name.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: It should be noted that Redacted had previously identified as
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Redacted and had previously interviewed. The interview was concluded and
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: the video was placed into evidence via the locker system.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: All right, folks. We're going to wrap up right here,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: and in the next episode, we're going to pick up
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: where we left off. All of the information that goes
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: with this episode can be found in the description box.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: In this episode, we're picking back up where we left
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: off with the Palm Beach Police report into Jeffrey Epstein's
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: alleged behavior. On November 9th, 2005, Sergeant Frick and I
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: traveled to Redacted, Boynton Beach, Florida, in hopes to interview...
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Juan Alessi, the former houseman of Epstein's home. As no
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: one was home, a business card was left for him
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: to return my call. We then traveled to Redacted in
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Miami in hopes to interview Alfredo Rodriguez, a former houseman
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: of Epstein. We did not locate them at home. I
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: left a business card for him to return my call.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: We then traveled to Lynn University and met with the
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Dean of Students, Mr. Turner. We requested to speak with Redacted.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Redacted was re-interviewed as she still was in possession of
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: the rental car that Epstein had acquired for her. Redacted
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: stated that Sarah, Epstein's assistant, had called her on her
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: cellular telephone and informed her that rental was extended for her.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Sarah stated she had paid an additional $ 625 for her
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: to keep the rental an extra month. Redacted was asked
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: if she had any additional contact with either Epstein or
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: anyone from his organization. Redacted stated that she did not,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: other than the telephone call informing her that she could
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: keep the car for an extra month. Redacted did not
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: provide any additional information. On November 10, 2005, at approximately 9.47 a.m.,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Alfredo Rodriguez had telephoned, referenced my business card found on
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: his door. Rodriguez stated that he had worked for Epstein
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: for approximately six months after the previous houseman left. Rodriguez
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: stated that it was his responsibility to keep the identity
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: of the masseuse private. Mr. Epstein had a massage in
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: the morning and one in the afternoon. Mr. Rodriguez stated
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: he would rather speak about this in private. He advised
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: he would come to the police station to speak with me.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Rodriguez stated he would return my call on Monday, November 14, 2005.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I then made telephone contact with Juan Alessi. He advised
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: he found my card on his door and wanted to
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: know what I needed to speak with him about. I
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: explained to Alessi that I was conducting an investigation on
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: his former employer, Mr. Epstein. Alessi stated that he would
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: return my call shortly as he was in the middle
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: of a project at his home. I received a telephone
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: call from attorney Donald Morrell from Redacted. Morrell stated he
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: represented Mr. Alessi and did not want me speaking with
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: his client. I then made telephone contact with the state
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: attorney's office and confirmed that subpoenas would be issued to
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: the former employees to assist in the investigation. I then
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: made telephone contact with attorney Guy Fronstein, attorney for Mr. Epstein.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I explained to Mr. Fronstein that I would like to
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: speak with Mr. Epstein. He stated Mr. Epstein is not
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: in the residence in Florida at this time and would
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: check with him to ascertain if he could come and
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: be here by Wednesday, November 16, 2005, for an interview. Mr.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Fronstein stated he would return my call should Mr. Epstein
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: decide to come in to the police station for an interview.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: The investigation continues. The narrative continues now with Joseph Ricari.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: On November 14, 2005, Detective Sandman and I traveled to
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Redacted in Loxahatchee, Florida, and spoke with Redacted. She was
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: told of the ongoing investigation involving Epstein. Redacted advised she
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: had gone to the house on several occasions. During a
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: sworn tape statement, she advised she started going to the
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: house approximately one year ago and was brought by Redacted.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Redacted stated that Redacted brought her into the home and
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: she was introduced to a girl named Sarah. Once again,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Sarah Kellan Vickers. Sarah, once she met her, Sarah brought
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: her upstairs into a master bathroom. Redacted stated she met
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey in the bathroom. He lay on the table and
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: picked up the massage oils. She provided the massage as
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: he lay naked on the massage bed. She stated she
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: rubbed his calves and back area. Upon the end of
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: the massage, Epstein removed himself from the massage table and
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: paid her $ 300 for the massage. Redacted stated she had
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: only been at the house approximately five or six times.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Redacted said Each time she went to the house, she
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: was notified by Sarah, Epstein's assistant, that Epstein was in
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: town and would like to work with her. Redacted stated
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: she returned to the house and was again led upstairs
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: by Sarah. She provided the massage clothed. Redacted advised it
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: wasn't really weird until later on. Redacted was asked if
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: she ever removed her clothing to provide a massage. Redacted
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: stated it was not until the third time that she
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: went that she removed her clothing. Redacted stated that she
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: was notified by Sarah that Epstein wanted her to come
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: to work. She arrived at the house and was led
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: upstairs by Sarah. She started providing the massage when Epstein
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: asked her to remove her clothing. Redacted removed her pants, shirt,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: and bra. She stayed in her thong panties and continued
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: rubbing Epstein. Epstein turned onto his back and she rubbed
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: his chest area. Redacted stated She knew he was masturbating
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: himself as she was providing the massage. Redacted stated she
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: believed he climaxed based on his breathing. She did not
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: want to view either the climax or the fact that
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: he was masturbating. Redacted stated once the breathing relaxed, he
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: got up and told her to get dressed. She was
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: paid $ 300 for services. Redacted stated on the last time
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: that she went to provide a massage, she was notified
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: by Sarah to come to the house and work. Redacted
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: stated she was now dating her current boyfriend and did
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: not feel comfortable going. She recalled it was approximately January 2005.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: She said she went, already thinking that this would be
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: the last time. She went upstairs and went into the
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: master bedroom. She met with Epstein, who was wearing only
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: a towel, as he entered the room to lie on
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the table. Redacted stated Epstein caught her looking at the
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: clock on several occasions. Epstein asked her if she was
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: in a hurry. Redacted stated her boyfriend was in the
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: car waiting for her. Redacted further stated that Epstein got
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: upset as she wasn't enjoying the massage. She told him
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: that she didn't want to continue and she would not
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: be back. Epstein told her to leave as she was
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: ruining his massage. I asked her if she had any
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: contact with Epstein's organization. She stated she received $ 200 from
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Western Union and Palm Beach as a Christmas gift. Redacted
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: advised she had no formal training in providing any massages.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Redacted also stated she was 16 years old when she
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: first went to Epstein's house. At approximately 4.22 p.m., I
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: made telephone contact with Redacted at Redacted. She agreed to
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: meet with me at a public place. I suggested she
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: come to the police station for an interview. Redacted did
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: not want to meet at the police station. I recommended
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: we meet at the Palm Beach Gardens Mall in the
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: food court area. She agreed, and an appointment was made
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: for November 15, 2005, at 5 p.m., at the food court.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: The investigation continues. The next narrative we have now is
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: from Jennifer Sandman. On 10-20-2005, I assisted executing a search
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: warrant at 358 El Brío Way in the town of
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Palm Beach, Florida, under the direction of Affiant Detective Joseph Ricari.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Detective Melanchok and I searched the pantry room that is
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: west next to the kitchen. This room had all white
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: cabinets with a dark, gray and black countertop. We did
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: not find anything in this room. We searched the yellow
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: and blue room in the west next to the pantry room.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: This room had a very large statue of a man
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: with a bow. Taken into evidence from this room were
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: nine photographs and frames of various women. We searched the
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: main entrance foyer that is to the north of the
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: yellow and blue room. This room contained two bamboo chairs
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: and ottomans with cushions. It also contained a round table
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: with numerous books. We searched another blue room that is
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: west of the foyer. This room had a stereo system
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: and bookshelves that were from the floor to the ceiling.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Taken into evidence from this room were eight photographs and
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: frames of various women and or Epstein, the owner of
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: the residence. We searched the room to the west of
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: the blue room that has sliding glass doors that led
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: out to the pool. In this room in the dresser
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: were two DVDs and two VCR tapes. These items were
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: taken into evidence. We searched the 2004 black Chevy Suburban
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: bearing Florida tag X99 EGL registered to Jeffrey Epstein, which
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: was located on the east side of the driveway facing south.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I found a thrifty rental agreement between the passenger seat
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: and the middle console. The name on the rental agreement
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: was Johanna Schoberg from Redacted. The phone number on the
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: agreement was Redacted. The vehicle rented was White Redacted. The
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: vehicle was rented on 9-25-05 at 1759 hours and was
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: returned on 9-26-05 at 1652 hours. The last four numbers
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: of the credit card used are redacted. Detective Melanchok found
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: a piece of paper in the middle console that said,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I used the cash in here to fill up the
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: tank and was signed by Johanna. I searched the 2005
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Black Cadillac Escalade SUV bearing Florida tag Q29-10. 9GT registered
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: to Jeffrey Epstein, which was located on the west side
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: of the driveway facing south. I did not find anything
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: in this vehicle. All the items that were taken into
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: evidence were photographed in the place they were located and
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: then turned over to the crime scene. Moving on to
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: the next part, we're going back to the narrative of
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Joseph Ricari. On November 15, 2005, Detective Sandman and I
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: traveled to Redacted in Royal Palm Beach. We met with Redacted,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: a 17-year-old juvenile who was not in school this day
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: due to a cold from which she was suffering. Redacted
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: was told that I needed to speak with her in
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: reference to an ongoing investigation involving a subject she would
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: know as Jeffrey Epstein. Prior to speaking with her, I
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: explained that because of the fact that she was a
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: minor and I needed to speak with her parents prior
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: to speaking with her. She telephoned her father, Mr. Adacted,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: on his cell phone and explained to him that Detective
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Sandman and I were there to speak with her. I
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: spoke with Mr. Adacted on the telephone and informed him
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: that I needed to speak with his daughter in reference
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: to an ongoing investigation. Mr. Adacted advised he had no
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: problem with us speaking with his daughter. During a sworn
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: tape statement, Redacted stated that she met Jeffrey Epstein over
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: a year ago. She was 16 years of age and
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: was approached by Redacted, who informed her that she could
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: make money providing a massage to Epstein for $ 200. Redacted
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: had informed her that she would have to provide this
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: massage topless. Redacted made the arrangements with Epstein and his
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: assistants and took Redacted to the house. Redacted stated that
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Redacted and she entered through a glass door That led
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: into a kitchen. Redacted took her upstairs to a master
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: bedroom and master bathroom. She recalled the bathroom had a
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: large pink couch, sauna, and matching shower. Epstein entered into
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: the room wearing only a towel. Redacted and Redacted removed
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: their clothing, remaining only in their thong underwear. She further
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: stated that Epstein lay on his chest on the table.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Epstein selected which oils to use for the massage. Both
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Redacted and Redacted provided the massage on his legs, back,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: and feet. 40 minutes into the massage, Epstein turned over
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: onto his back and requested Redacted wait downstairs in the
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: kitchen area for Redacted. Epstein instructed Redacted to finish the massage.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: As Redacted got dressed, Redacted started rubbing his chest. Redacted
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: left the room and Epstein began masturbating himself as Redacted
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: rubbed Epstein's chest. Redacted stated he continued masturbating until he
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: climaxed on the towel he was wearing. When asked if
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: she had removed the towel, she stated he turned the
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: towel around so that the opening would allow him to
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: expose himself. After he cleaned himself off with the towel,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: he instructed Redacted that the massage was done and to
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: get dressed and met with him downstairs. Redacted got dressed
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: and met with Epstein in the kitchen area. She was
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: paid $ 200 for providing the massage. Redacted stated that she
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: was aware that Redacted also received money for the same thing.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: The second time she went to the house, she was
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: again approached by Redacted, and Redacted asked if she wanted
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: to return to the house to provide another massage. Redacted agreed,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: and the arrangements were made by Redacted for her to
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: return to the house. Redacted stated that Redacted drove her
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: to the house and knocked on the same glass door
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: that leads to the kitchen area. There were a loud
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: entry into the house by one of the staff members,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Redacted led her upstairs to the master bedroom area. Redacted
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: left Redacted this time to do the massage alone. Epstein
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: entered the room again wearing only a towel. Redacted began
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: removing her clothing as she did last time she was
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: at the house. Epstein instructed her to get naked. He
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: lay on the table on his stomach as Redacted began
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: massaging his legs and his back. As Redacted finished with
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Epstein's back and legs, Epstein then turned over onto his back.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Redacted started to rub his chest, and he began masturbating himself.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: As Redacted rubbed his chest, Epstein leaned over and produced
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: a massager vibrator. He turned it on and began rubbing
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Redacted's vagina and masturbating himself at the same time. Redacted
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: stated she continued to rub his chest as this was occurring.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: She described the vibrator massage as large, gray with a
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: large head. Epstein rubbed her vagina for approximately two to
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: three minutes with the massager vibrator. He then removed the
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: vibrator from her vaginal area and concentrated on masturbating himself.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Redacted stated he climaxed onto the towel again and informed
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: her that the massage was done. Redacted got dressed and
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: met with Redacted, who was waiting in the kitchen area.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: She received $ 200 for the massage. Redacted said she never
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: returned to the house and had no desire to return
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: to the house. Redacted was asked if she received any
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: formal massage training. She advised she had no formal training.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted was asked if Epstein knew a real age. Redacted
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  Speaker 1: stated he knew as he asked her questions about herself
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  Speaker 1: and high school. He was aware she attended and is
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  Speaker 1: still attending Redacted High School. The interview was concluded. I
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  Speaker 1: suggested Redacted inform her parents of what occurred at the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein house. Redacted stated she would tell her father as
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  Speaker 1: he was unaware this had occurred. I left my business
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  Speaker 1: card for any questions they may have. We left the
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  Speaker 1: area and returned to the police station. The tape was
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  Speaker 1: placed into evidence. The investigation continues. Alright folks, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to wrap up this episode right here and in the
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  Speaker 1: next episode, we'll pick up where we left off. All
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