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The Dark Knight Part 3 · Cuff’s Basement

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Hey, man, batman man, be a bad for me that
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: it honestly wasn't your best.
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: Hey, listening to go in nothing direction with the songs,
• 0:15
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do nothing. That's christonal. I'm sorry that says,
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: uh breaking the noose to Bob.
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  Speaker 3: We need to get Brian sets in here. Will someone
• 0:25
  Speaker 3: call Brian Setza?
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: Why the fuck did we get Bob Dylan? We need
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: Brian Setsa.
• 0:31
  Speaker 3: I genuinely thought he was a batman villain. That's what
• 0:34
  Speaker 3: like that? Somebody says, But you were just saying, oh man,
• 0:37
  Speaker 3: I love the Winter of Bob. And I said, so
• 0:39
  Speaker 3: many people hated the Winter of Bob.
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: Where it'll come back around. That's my theory. You just did.
• 0:45
  Speaker 3: He just did. But Megan sort of like love Slash,
• 0:49
  Speaker 3: hated it. Sarah just hated it. Sarah just said, hey,
• 0:52
  Speaker 3: I don't want to hurt your feelings. It's not funny.
• 0:54
  Speaker 3: I hate it. Please stop doing it. And that to
• 0:57
  Speaker 3: me is like pouring gasoline on fire.
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: That's why is it? That? To somebody it's insane? Why
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: I tell them that I just liked how Bob would
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: just come out like like I always feel. It was
• 1:08
  Speaker 2: like we were like sitting in the basement recording, and
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: he would just be like in a closet and then
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: like while you brought something that made no relevance to
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: him at all, You're talking about kool aid. It's like
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: it was. It's like, okay, Bob Jesus.
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  Speaker 3: Oh well, we're back. We're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: What removie, Ryan, We're talking about. We're talking about Batman. Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: the Dark Knight. There we go and Dark Knight Comma
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  Speaker 2: the Yeah, Batman.
• 1:42
  Speaker 3: Hears a villain somewhere in the city say they know where,
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  Speaker 3: like a henchman, say they know where Harvey Dentist. He
• 1:48
  Speaker 3: shows up at the scene. There are two dead cops.
• 1:51
  Speaker 3: One is the last name Harvey when his last name
• 1:52
  Speaker 3: dent So uh so wait, we talked about last time
• 2:00
  Speaker 3: how the Joker specifically put out a message that Batman
• 2:04
  Speaker 3: has to reveal his identity or he's going to kill
• 2:06
  Speaker 3: more people.
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  Speaker 2: Every day exactly. Yeah, So he says that at this
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  Speaker 2: crime scene. Ramirez is there with Gordon, and when they
• 2:15
  Speaker 2: find the name tags of the two dead men, there's
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: a newspaper with a picture of that has a photo
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: of the mayor that is drawn on like with Joker makeup,
• 2:23
  Speaker 2: and they're like Joker's next target is the mayor.
• 2:26
  Speaker 1: And he says, I need ten minutes with the scene
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  Speaker 1: before your men contamidate it.
• 2:31
  Speaker 3: And then Ramira says contamidated. This is your fault. They're dead.
• 2:34
  Speaker 3: Joker is going to kill people every day until Batman
• 2:37
  Speaker 3: reveals his secret identity. And uh, this is a great
• 2:42
  Speaker 3: like NERD comic book fan scene because Batman is conducting
• 2:47
  Speaker 3: like intense ballistic tests in the vacave and Batman is
• 2:52
  Speaker 3: the world's greatest detective, so like that, raj al Ghul
• 2:55
  Speaker 3: raychelle Ghoul call him, calls him detective, and that's kind
• 3:00
  Speaker 3: of something that's lost in a lot of the movies.
• 3:02
  Speaker 3: But sorry, go ahead, Ryan, what were we gonna say?
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: I wanted this is. This is again as you said
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: Poe Buddies, in effect, I never understood this part. So
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: he's cutting out, he cuts out of the wall the
• 3:14
  Speaker 2: bullet to get fingerprints off the bullet. That's what he
• 3:17
  Speaker 2: says when he's doing it. Yep. Then he goes to
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: he goes to Lucius, then goes back to the cave
• 3:26
  Speaker 2: and like reshoots that bullet. I don't I don't don't
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  Speaker 2: understand this.
• 3:32
  Speaker 3: It's like Tenant where nobody really gets it.
• 3:34
  Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, being super loud in Imax, beyond loud when
• 3:39
  Speaker 2: these gunshots go off.
• 3:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't tell you now that you mentioned it,
• 3:42
  Speaker 3: I don't really know.
• 3:43
  Speaker 2: I just even like I was like actively, I'm like,
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna rewind and see what they say. I still
• 3:47
  Speaker 2: don't get why you need to reshoot the bullet that
• 3:49
  Speaker 2: was already shot to rebuild fingerprints.
• 3:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. That's a really good point. I
• 3:54
  Speaker 3: don't know. Yeah, I don't. I don't. I could deep
• 3:57
  Speaker 3: dive it and like try to argue with you, like
• 4:00
  Speaker 3: the put the Devil's advocate hat on the guy who
• 4:02
  Speaker 3: loved the Patriot and Duncan donuts. But I'm not going
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  Speaker 3: to do that. And then the Andy Kelly of the movie,
• 4:07
  Speaker 3: Coleman Reese confronts Lucius Fox and he says, I figured
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  Speaker 3: out what you're doing. I figured out that Bruce Wayne
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  Speaker 3: is Batman. I went through applied sciences. So I'm just
• 4:18
  Speaker 3: letting you know. I want ten million dollars a year
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  Speaker 3: for the rest of my life, or I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: the press and telling them that Bruce Wayne is Batman.
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  Speaker 3: And Lucius in another amazing Morgan Freeman moment says, so
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  Speaker 3: let me get this straight. You think your client, who's
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  Speaker 3: one of the wealthiest and most powerful men in the
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  Speaker 3: entire world, is secretly a vigilante who spends every night
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  Speaker 3: beating criminals to a pulp with his bare hands, and
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  Speaker 3: your plan is to blackmail this person. And then he
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  Speaker 3: just stares at him and says, good luck.
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  Speaker 2: I just love how like Coleman, Reese's face just melts
• 4:53
  Speaker 2: while Morgan Freeman is talking because all of this makes sense. Like, ye,
• 4:57
  Speaker 2: this man has so much power, so much control. If
• 4:59
  Speaker 2: your plan is to black melon, you're You're gone. I
• 5:02
  Speaker 2: do like how Coleman says it. You don't think I
• 5:04
  Speaker 2: don't see your baby out there, pancake and cop cars.
• 5:07
  Speaker 2: I do like that.
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  Speaker 3: So they're trying to stop Joker's plan from assassinating the mayor,
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  Speaker 3: and there's a giant funeral procession for all the cops
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  Speaker 3: that Joker has killed, and the mayor is going to
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  Speaker 3: be there and give a speech. Bruce goes out in
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  Speaker 3: the daytime, dresses himself because he doesn't go out in
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  Speaker 3: the daytime, dresses Batman, and he goes to an apartment
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  Speaker 3: and walks in because he's like has this lead now
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  Speaker 3: of where he should where the Joker might be holed up.
• 5:37
  Speaker 3: And when he walks into the apartment, there's a bunch
• 5:39
  Speaker 3: of like naked guys tied up. And I thought I
• 5:41
  Speaker 3: wrote down right place. I thought this was very genius
• 5:47
  Speaker 3: about how he what's what's it called like a Rube
• 5:50
  Speaker 3: Goldberg device, like a really complicated contraption. Do you want
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  Speaker 3: to explain this or do you remember? I can explain
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  Speaker 3: it if you don't.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, Remember it's with the with the scope in the window.
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: He like goes to look in the scope, so.
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  Speaker 3: You Bruce, Yeah, Bet, Bruce goes to look there's like
• 6:06
  Speaker 3: a scope in the window, not a gun, but just
• 6:08
  Speaker 3: a scope in the window looking at something. And then
• 6:11
  Speaker 3: when Bruce goes to look at the scope, like a
• 6:14
  Speaker 3: timer goes off because somehow Joker to the second predicted
• 6:17
  Speaker 3: when this would happen. And when the timer goes off,
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  Speaker 3: the blind shoot open and the whole city is surrounded
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  Speaker 3: by sniper rifles because all the cops are trying to
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  Speaker 3: protect the mayor. So when the blind shoot open and
• 6:29
  Speaker 3: Bruce is standing with the scope in front of him,
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  Speaker 3: all this cop snipers just fire into the window. Immediately,
• 6:35
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, well done. I respect that.
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: That was pretty cool. I like how it's intercut with
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  Speaker 2: them just panning up the soldiers who are waiting and
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: like this, you know, like the the memorial, like the
• 6:48
  Speaker 2: tribute line whatever it is with the guns. Yeah, and
• 6:51
  Speaker 2: I just love the slow burn of seeing that. Then
• 6:53
  Speaker 2: you see a joker without his makeup on, dressed up
• 6:56
  Speaker 2: as a cop, which I thought was also kind of
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: a cool move in this movie.
• 7:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know how nobody didn't nobody noticed him.
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the scars are pretty significant. Yeah, but I like
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: that the movie just did that, Like even he will
• 7:11
  Speaker 2: take it off and not be the image, yeah.
• 7:14
  Speaker 3: Or if anything, Honestly, I could see him putting the
• 7:17
  Speaker 3: makeup on and then putting more makeup over it to
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  Speaker 3: hide the.
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  Speaker 2: First layer of makeup, like Jack Nicholson.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, honestly, my human makeup.
• 7:26
  Speaker 2: Life's good to me.
• 7:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been good to me. Wow. Yeah, what's with
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  Speaker 3: your smile?
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  Speaker 2: So?
• 7:31
  Speaker 3: Uh, who's your your dude?
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: The actor the great David DEAs Mulchin.
• 7:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how is David just mulchin involved in this scene?
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: I don't remember? So he is one of the jokers
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: like goons, and he's one of the people who's with him.
• 7:45
  Speaker 2: He gets caught. When he gets caught, his name texts
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  Speaker 2: Rachel Dawes, Oh.
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  Speaker 3: No, Like, what the fuck does this mean?
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  Speaker 2: That's not good exactly, So he just laughs. He says
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: nothing and just laughs. He's in an ambulance. Harvey Dinkotts
• 7:59
  Speaker 2: in the amb and is like, oh, this guy is
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: threatening my girlfriend.
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  Speaker 3: Well, well, first I think before this doesn't jesus. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so Gordon the Joker fires at the mayor during the
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  Speaker 3: like the funeral procession, you know, they fire guns and uh,
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  Speaker 3: the Joker turns and fires at the mayor and Gordon
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  Speaker 3: jumps in front of the mayor and is shot by
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  Speaker 3: the Joker and dies. So Dent knows Gordon is dead.
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  Speaker 3: He knows this fucking guy is now threatening Rachel, and
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  Speaker 3: he's like, you start to realize at this point Harvey's
• 8:32
  Speaker 3: a little unhinged. You're like, uh oh, and he's sort
• 8:35
  Speaker 3: of like fuck this shit, and he just steals the
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  Speaker 3: ambulance with the guy inside.
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  Speaker 2: That's so great. Yeah. Yeah, So they go tell the
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: guy from Angel and Ramirez go tell Gordon's family that
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: Gordon is dead. And I always no you go ahead, Ryan, No,
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  Speaker 2: I just always love the shot of just Batman like
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: standing on their porch or like crawled up in their porch.
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know why. I always thought there's a cool image.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, Gordon's wife blames Batman for his death.
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: Gordon's wife is hot, and I looked her up and
• 9:12
  Speaker 3: I did not realize this. For mad Men fans out there,
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  Speaker 3: Bobby Barrett, who's the wife of the comedian Jimmy Barrett
• 9:19
  Speaker 3: that has an affair with Don that basically leads to
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  Speaker 3: Don's divorce. That Bobby Barrett is jim Gordon's wife.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, mm hm.
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  Speaker 3: And so wait, uh when is this? When is Harvey?
• 9:40
  Speaker 3: What does Harvey do with this guy? David? Has this
• 9:42
  Speaker 3: already happened?
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: It hasn't happened yet, because we go we cut to
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  Speaker 2: the club with Maroney.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, okay, all right, so sorry jumping backwards for a second.
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  Speaker 3: So the cops put off the bat signal and Gordon's
• 9:55
  Speaker 3: not there, obviously because he's dead. They put up the
• 9:57
  Speaker 3: bat signal and they say he's not coming. He doesn't
• 10:00
  Speaker 3: want to talk to us, but God health whoever he
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: does want to talk to.
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: Again. Another great just cut to Maroni just in the
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  Speaker 2: club and you're like, oh no, this is not gonna
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: be good for him. The girlfriend's like, can we go
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: somewhere and talk? And he's like, what makes me? What
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: makes you think I want to hear you talk? Unreal?
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: And then this just looks so cool. It's just because
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: the club lights are flashing. All you see is people
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: just getting completely thrown off, like this railing punched out
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: of the way, and Batman just grabs grabs Falconi, Oh wow, Marony,
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: sorry geez, and is like we need to talk, and
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: then you cut to him throwing him off the building
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  Speaker 2: and horribly breaking his feet.
• 10:41
  Speaker 3: Well, so he's holding him off the building and Maroney says,
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: can I give you it? He's not scared at all,
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: and he goes, can I give you a tip if
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: you're trying to intimidate me, don't bring me this high
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: up because this fall is not going to kill me.
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: It would just break my legs. And then Batman says.
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: I'm counting on it, and he throws.
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  Speaker 3: Them off the building, which is which is great. Uh,
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: And so Harvey calls Rachel and says, you're not safe
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: with Gordon's men. Get away from Gordon's men, and Rachel says,
• 11:10
  Speaker 3: but Jim, we trust Jim, and Jim vouch for these people.
• 11:13
  Speaker 3: And Harvey great point, says, and he's dead. Yes, so
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: and so she So Harvey says, who can we trust?
• 11:21
  Speaker 3: And Rachel Bruce? We can definitely trust Bruce. And Harvey's like,
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: all right, Rachel, I know he's your friend. But and
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: then Rachel says, listen, Harvey just trusts me. Bruce's penthouse
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: is the safest place in the entire city. And Harvey
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: doesn't question that. It's like, hmm, why would that be
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: the case. Yeah, yeah, So Batman says, where's the joker?
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: And Eric Roberts says, I have no idea.
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: He must have friends.
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: And Eric roberts response is friends, have you met this guy?
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: I love it?
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: Uh And and this is fucking great the joke. This
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: is when the and the the teaser trailer the bat
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: symbols are to break apart. The Joker is winning and
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: defeating Batman. Eric Roberts says, Maroney, Eric Roberts is playing him.
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: No one's gonna talk to you to Batman, or why
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: is your act? You've got rules and jokers no rules.
• 12:13
  Speaker 3: The only way to find him is to take off
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: that mask. So you're gonna do that? Are you're gonna
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: let a few more people get killed.
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: First before you make up your mind.
• 12:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, before you make up your mind. Yeah, exactly, exactly,
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: and yeah, So now explain what Harvey is doing to
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: that actor you love, David. I can't say his last name.
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: David dust Mulchin. People, I should shout him out. People
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: probably seen him in a million things. He's in a
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: ton of stuff. Suicide Squad, Great Polka Dot Man twenty
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: forty nine, a movie as you all know I love.
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: Some people say he's the best Polka Dot Man.
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: I mean one of the also great Late Night with
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: the Devil, amazing horror movie. Check it out. So he
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: Harvey is like in a train station area, like under
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: a train station with the way I don't know how
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: to describe it. It looks like train tracks unless I'm wrong.
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: He's interrogating. His name is Schiff, and he's like what
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: is like, like what is he? What are you guys doing?
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: What is your plan? And he just won't respond to him,
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: and Harvey's like, okay, fine, pulls the coin out and
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: it's like, uh, we're gonna decide your fate here, and
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  Speaker 2: Schiff starts to crack a little, but Harvey flips the coin.
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: B Man catches it, and he's like, you're gonna leave
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: someone's life to chance.
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: You need to leave a man's life to chance, and
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: Harvey says, not exactly, because again it's a trick coin.
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: So you reacted, Batman, and Batman explains this is a
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: paranoid schizophrenic from Arkham. He's not going to be of
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: help to you, and he's kind of minor.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: Joker tracts, Yeah, if.
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: You go down this path, Jim Gordon will have died
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  Speaker 1: for nothing. You are the hope. I can never be
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: all the press conference tomorrow. No one else is going
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: to die.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: I love this how the scene ends with him screaming
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: you can't. You can't give in. You can't, you can't
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: give in?
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: Really good, No, go ahead, go because I'm gonna go
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: to the next thing. So you said you go ahead, Ryan.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: I was thinking, like, oh wait, Batman, you left him
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: there with Cheff.
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: He trusts him. Yeah, okay, Rachel says to Bruce, do
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: you really think revealing your identity as Batman will make
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: the Joker stop killing people? Great point?
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: No, my neighbors Bernard Peters. He gives up to.
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: Yah, yeah, it will not stop it. Uh. Bruce says,
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: I don't want to become the person I know I
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: will have to become to stop the joker, which is
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: a very great response if i'd put my Devil's Advocate
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: Duncan Donuts line Patriot fan had on maybe he wants
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: to quit being Batman because being Batman would suck.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's so like yeah again it comes
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: up later.
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And and Bruce is just saying, he goes, hey, Rachel,
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: just so you know, I'm quitting Batman to be with
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: you romantically. And I'm just like, I just wrote big problem,
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: big problem here.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Here's what I'm gonna say in comparison, that is this
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: discussion here with these two. She says like, please don't
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: make me your hope for a normal life. And he says,
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: what you said earlier, did you mean it? And she
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: says yes, And she says, but if you turn yourself in,
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: they're not gonna let us be together.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: Yes, and yeah, you can't just like hey I'm Batman,
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: I'm Bruce Wayne and then just go date Rachel.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: You're gonna go to jail as Commissioner Gordon. I'm sorry
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: a spoiler alert. As Gordon told us earlier, you know,
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: the rule is to arrest the Valencian's vigilante is Batman
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: on site. So yes, he comes out of this.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: And Alfred, having being the most sensical person, says Bruce says,
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: people are dying, Alfred, what would you have me do?
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: And Alfred says, indue.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: It was a great trailer line too.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: Yep, and also really good point. Alfred says, so I
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: guess I'm going to jail too, Like you didn't consult
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: me on this decision at all, but I would be
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: going to jail as your accomplice. And then Bruce responds,
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: I'm telling them the whole thing was your idea.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Such a great line. I'm gonna say, stop saying this.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: My god, I just keep yammering, and I feel like
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Ed McMahon today more than usual.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Wait, why what did you do?
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: I just keep saying that was great, that was funny.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Is great, is great?
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Great?
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: I always think of that the Alec Baldwin, Uh what's
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: his name, Tony Bennett? Yeah, great, great show for you tonight,
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: and everything's great. But I do that all the time too.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a great movie. So everything is great,
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: and if you don't think that is great, then you're
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: not great. So just listen to this great pod and
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: be great. Dan is doing the press conference, and he's like, listen,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: we shouldn't say who Batman is to the Joker. We
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: shouldn't do this because we're scared. We were happy to
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: let Batman clean up our messes before this. And the
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: crowd says, but it's he didn't clean up anything. The
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: city's worse than ever, fair fair point r. And Harvey
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: says the night, the night is dark at just before
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: the dawn, the Batman will have to answer to us
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: as the people, but not this madman the Joker. Cops,
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: of course, only caring about themselves, yells, yell, no more
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: dead cops. Then Harvey says, all right, so be it.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: I am Batman, Take me into custody.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: I do love the random citizen will I now think
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: is a citizen from Pawnee. It's a random just curly
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: hair guy. She should turn himself in.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Oh you know, it's definitely from Pawnee. Is the guy
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: on the ferry? I wrote in the notes, everyone's the
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: least favorite coworker is what I named him. But so
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Harvey says, I'm the Batman. Arrest me, and then Bruce goes.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I knew he was Batman the whole time.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Then he picks up his phone and says, Rachel, will
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: you be my girlfriend?
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: It's like, Bruce, you're doing the voice and you're not
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: wearing the suit. You gotta be careful.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Rachel's pissed. What to Bruce? Why would you let Harvey
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: do this?
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: And fuck him? Hey?
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Will you kiss me?
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I love you? Good?
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: We're cool.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Right, I'm like Lucius, like Bruce, come on, like Bruce,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: you have to let this go, like Lucy is always
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: like the gravity, like like Alfred, It's just.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Like come on and uh. Rachel gives an envelope to
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Alfred and says, give this to Bruce when the time
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: is right, and Alfred says, how will I know when
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: the time is right? And Rachel says the envelope is
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: not sealed, meaning Alfred's allowed to read it. Sorry, go ahead, Ryan.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Then she hugs him and says goodbye. So you know,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: what is the plan there? Like? Is she leaving Gotham?
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Like I just never like the goodbye is so final, and.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Then I think she's done with Bruce. She hates this situation,
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: and she's like, Harvey's gonna get out of this because
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: he's not Batman. Yeah, and whatever happens when Harvey gets
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: out of this, I'm gonna be with Harvey and I'm
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: done with Bruce and this Batman bullshit.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: So but you're walking around town, you go to a restaurant,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Bruce's there. What are we doing?
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Like, I mean, people run into their exes. It's a
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: part of life. You gotta deal with it.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: That's true. That's a good point. Yeah, I know, it's
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: just very final. And I'm like, what does she know that?
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Does she know? My time is coming?
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: So basically, then they're going to transfer Harvey. He gets
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: arrested for being Batman, They're going to transfer him to
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: another jail. And Rachel's like, wait, what is going on?
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: And Harvey says, yeah, I'm bait. The Joker is going
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: to try to kill me as I'm being transferred. Everybody
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: knows this, and Batman will stop him and the Joker
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: will be caught and I'll be proven to know Batman
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: and everything is great. And then Rachel's like, I don't
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: like this.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I do again. I feel like both the Rachel love
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: triangle here doesn't have a lot of chemistry. I really
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: like this kiss that is really good. The music does
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: a great job. Yeah, I forgot, Yeah that Brian the
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Brian sets her is playing. I almost wish that, like
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: the Harvey Dent and Rachel thing was not as in
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: deep as it is. I almost think it would have
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: been more remiss if like their relationship was just starting
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: and it was just that this thing cut off before
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: it was too you know, but cut off before it
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: was anything. I think it would have been so much more.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe it's just me, but.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: I just had a birth. I just had a birth
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: jar moment. And you I think you were at negative
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: one because I had birth twice, and then you burped
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: once and you're at negative once. Now you're at negative two,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: so you have two freebies because of me. And I'm
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: really proud of your burp jar efforts. You had one
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: for the A podcast recently, but it was totally not
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: your fault because you didn't know I was recording.
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: It's okay, it was it was the the first second
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: was a burp, which is great, and then the first
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: second of the Dark Knight trilogy introduction, was you saying fuck?
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: That's how I saw it.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it showed up when it downloaded. It showed up
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: as the translation, and I just started laughing. The first
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: word is just fuck with Dastris.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yep, I want to reference. There's a lot
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: of great random actors in this. They go to transfer
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Harvey and a bunch of cops in riot gear armor
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: come out and one of the main the main driver,
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: his passenger and shotgun is the cop is Nikki Cat. Yeah,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Niki Ca all right? Oh he was in Insomnia. I
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: didn't know that.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah he was.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go through Nikki Cat. He was in Gremlins,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: which I did not know. Really he was a school child,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: was his role?
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Oh imagine he's like Mohawk.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Waiter and sister act and then real roles Dazed and Confused,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: The Babysitter, A Time to Kill, Suburbia, Batman and Robin.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: He was in Batman and Robin, Phantoms, The Limey, Boiler
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Room Rules, An Engagement, The Way of the Gun, Insomnia,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Second Hand Lions, School of Rock, Sin City, Death Proof,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Planet Serra, and most importantly for me, Harry Senate in
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Boston Public, which me and Ben fucking loved. Harry Senate.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: He was a voice in King of the Hill, he
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: was in Friends, I'm sure, and unfortunately so he's this
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: random character actor that I always really liked. He was
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: awesome in Boston Public, which was a It was a
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: one hour drama show about high school in Boston when
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: we were in high school, I believe. So I watched
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: it religiously and because that was like so gimmicky at
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: the time, like, holy shit, there's a show in Boston,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: because shows and movies at that time were not filmed
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: or taking place in Boston, like everything was in New
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: York or California. It was really cool, but very sadly
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: he committed suicide and last year I.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Know that, Oh wow, that recent. Really he had.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Been Richard Link later paid tribute to him. Robert Rodriguez
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: paid tribute to him. He was fifty four and he
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: was living in an apartment in Burbank and the landlord
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: went to confront him because he hadn't paid his rent,
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: and the landlord found him dead by hanging. He had
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: been dead for several days. Really sad, really sad, But
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: I like Nikki Kad.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: So Yeah, he's got that same energy as another character,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: and the next movie has it just like are you
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: ready for this? Like they just know this is going
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: to go badly. I think it's so great. This next
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: part is just tremendous.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you talk about this because this is this old
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: car chase scene is one of the coolest parts of
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: the movie.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: So also to decide, note this too in imax. When
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: this scene plays this, this is when one of the
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: times when the screen expands to imax eize. So when
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: the trucks take off and they cut and it's that
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: great wide shot of all the trucks in the road,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: and then you just slowly hear the Joker themes start
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: to play, and then when that theme plays, that's when
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: the screen expands and you're like, Okay, this is going
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: to be fucking huge. Such a great, great idea. So A,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: the trucks are just driving kind of like under a
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: level of the city, kind of like we see a
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: little bit and Batman begins.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Well, sorry just to interview you for a second. So
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: they were going to go in Chicago, there's like an
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: underground roadway system sort of like parts of the tunnels
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: on like Sturro or the big dig but they're going
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: to go above ground because they want air cover from
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: the helicopters. But the Joker blocks the road with a
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: burning truck, so they are a burning fire truck because
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: that's because that's funny. A fire truck on fire is
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: a joke to him. So yeah, that's what draws them
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: in the underground tunnels.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then this is when a very cold shot too,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: is when that guy stops the truck. The police officers like,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: hey man, you can't go this way, and then the
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Joker just pops out and shoots them and they just
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: cut away, very very very I always thought very like
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: cold cold part. So Joker comes down with the truck.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: The side of the truck it's like a circus truck
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: to transport a circus from one place to the other,
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: and it says laughter is the best medicine. And the
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Joker spray painted an S in front of laughter, so
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: it says slaughter is the best medicine. It's a great
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: little bit.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: It's funny for like how Nolan is not like comically funny.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: They include so many little gags in this movie. Yeah, yeah,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: it's just very surprising. So they I forget how this happens.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: One of the squat fens gets nailed into the river
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: when they're driving.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it just gets like hit by the
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: truck and I don't remember the details, but like, obviously
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Batman shows up in the tumbler to help protect the
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: transportation of Harvey dissent.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, so Joker is trying to shoot through the truck.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: He has a machine he has his regular handgun he
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: uses like a machine gun. And then what does the
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: guy say? He's gonna need a hell a lot more
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: of that to get in here, and they cut to
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: him with a Bazuka. Great laugh out of the moment.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: The guy's like, is that at Bazuka and just blows
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: into the truck and the tumblr is coming. The tumbler
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: ends up driving into a garbage truck in an amazing
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: fucking stunt. Here. So this all we talked about it
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: before Batman begins. This all was done with miniatures, with
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: live or big size miniatures, so it's all done kind
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: of practically. And Batman hits the garbage truck and is
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: the tumbler is slightly damaged. So then with this shit escalating,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: they have to get to the ground, get out of
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: this tunnel because they need the air support, so the
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: swat trucks are able to get you know, above ground.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: And then Batman inside the tumbler has critical damage.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Because you didn't mention that. You didn't mention this, but
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: they shoot the Batmobile the tumbler with a bazooka.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: That's right, okay, sorry, So the.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Tumbler like basically blows. It doesn't kill Batman, and it's
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: fine because it's such a heavily armored vehicle, but it's
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: no longer drivable because it got.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: No longer So a just great crowd movie theater moment
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: here the because we people have seen in the posters
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: and the trailers that Batman has a motorcycle type vehicle
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: in this movie. So Batman it pulls over in front
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: of these guys under the bridge and they're just watching
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: and you're seeing from their point of view and Batman.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: They I think they have one shot of Batman inside
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: the tumbler and he just presses this eject sequence thing
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: and all they do is just show you from the
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: outside how the Batpod they call it, which is the
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: motorcycle version of it, is part of the tumbler.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: So just genius. Everything about it great.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: I remember the again another moment the crowd fucking erupted
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: in this movie when that thing came out, and then
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: it just the Batman theme just starts blaring. The Tumbler
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: self destructs and it's just Batman flying, just like taking
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: those the side mirrors off of cars. Such a cool effect.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I do want to say one thing because I think
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: this is the last time we see it. Rip to
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: the Tumbler. You are amazing, Thank you so much. Yeah,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: we literally we don't see the game making for the
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: rest of the series until yeah.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: And it's it's I'm glad it self destructs because like
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: they can recreate plane crashes, so there's no way even
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: if it self destructs, there's no way that like forensic
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: investigators can figure out this is from Wind Enterprises in
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: real life. So but I'm glad it self destructs to
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: just like try to hide it.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and also like how they like they're gonna be
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: like what is this thing?
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: And I want to say the design of the motorcycle
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: is so cool because he's like Ben Forwards, but I
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: don't understand what logistically makes sense, But I don't care
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: because it looks awesome. When it goes around to turn,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: the front wheel can rotate on both planes, so obviously
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: it rotates like a wheel. But then it flips over
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: itself as it goes around to turn, and it just
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: looks so sick.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: It's just they do it just it's just it's all.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: It's just done for like the movie. I don't know
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: how to describe it, like it's just done to be
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: like this should be cool, Like it's like, yeah, oh,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: such a cool thing. But so he is then chasing
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: the truck that the Joker's in. Helicopters are on the area,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: and then Joker has one of my favorite lines where
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: he's like rack them up, rack them up, rack them up.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: So they shoot these like cables across the buildings and
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: it tangles one of the helicopters and Nick Kat's like,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: well that's not good, and the helicopters crashes, so they
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: have no air support anymore. It's just the people on
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: the ground. Yeah. So Batman is just driving through like
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: he's just driving through a mall I think at one
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: point in time, which is great. And the sound of
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: this thing too is also awesome. The sound effects in.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: His movies are really excellent. The thuds of his punches.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Batman's punches, the thuds are so heavy and distinct.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Oh but he sorry, trying to put my shoe back
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: on here it came off. It was too excited. So
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: he's driving on the street and Jokers heading towards him.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: He Joker pushes the guy out of the truck and
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: he's just driving down the road and Batman is coming
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: towards them, and it's the famous line up. There's the
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Batman and Batman goest, I'm skipping something.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: No, this is a ripoff of cry Baby. They have
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: a game of chicken.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Let's see. This is how an original piece of ship
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: this movie is.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: They actually have two games of chicken, but the first
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: game of Chicken is with the truck versus the Batman
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: the batpod so explain that.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: So he Batman's coming towards them, he's heading straight on
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: and he swings around the truck and goes under it,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: and it confuses the Joker and the guy in the
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: truck and he goes out from under it. Meanwhile, he's
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: lining up cables that go around these light poles and
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: that stick the cables into the ground, and Joker's like Okay,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: He's like he someone says he missed or something like that, right,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: doesn't the guys say that, he says they missed. And
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: then this amazing stunt of the truck flips on its
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: not on its side, it literally flips up and over,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: completely upside down. And this is real, right, this is
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: for real they shot. I think this is incredible. It's
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: on YouTube. You can watch this too. They shot a
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: beam from under the street under the truck into the
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: back of it to flip it over. They just did
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: it live on on the street. Such a cool stunt.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: I have a question, do you think? And I was
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: thinking about this because Nolan loves practical effects and directors.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Even though I love practical effects too and I support Nolan,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: directors are kind of pricks and they think like you
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: should only see movies in theaters and it's like, well, no,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: you are delusional, and that's not practical anymore given our
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: lifestyles and the economy. But I wonder, you know, studios
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: nowadays would be like, let's do this with digital effects.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Let's hire industrial life and let's do industrial light and magic.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: And Nolan's like, no, because I'm Christopher Nolan, I want
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: to do it for real, and they're like, okay with AI,
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: now are they like, we don't even need to pay
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Industrial Light and Magic. Let's just have AI do this.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure they would do that. I'm sure
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: that would happen. And again, they don't want to even
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: like I think a lot of it is. They also
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: don't want you to pay people to do this work
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: and carry the stuff out and spend the time and
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: money to do it. But it's just easier to do
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: it from a computer. But I think we talked about
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: this a lot with other stuff. This is if you
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: think about this, it's a truck flipping over. How many
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: times have you seen that movies? Millions? Right? Yeah, but
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: like because this is real, because it's done in such
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: a bizarre way where it flips completely over, And I
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: really think because the fact that it's photographically real, it
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: has so much more impact. And also you care about
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: what's going on, that's the important thing.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's kind of like the thing, like the
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: thing you can tell it's practical effects because it doesn't
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: look real. It looks like practical effects, but it still
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: looks amazing and it's more impactful because you the viewer
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: can tell it's real practical effects that look slightly fake
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: versus CGI.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: It's it's a weird like, yeah, it's a weird thing.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I don't. I think it's just truly the human eye.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: It's like if this is a digital thing, I think, Okay,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: well this didn't happen like I mean, not like you're
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: saying it, but I almost think like your brain just
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: puts the like processes it that way.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not it's not the Uncanny value but similar
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: thing to the Unkimi Valley. It's just yeah, how your
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: your you subconsciously are like seeing things of the human
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: eye and how it impacts you mentally, just knowing that
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: something is real.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: It's and what this movie does so well. And I
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: think when we get to it to the end too,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: like this when we does a great job with small
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: but big where like this this, if you think about it,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: it's like a car chase. It's what happens later with
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: crowds of people. It's not like this epic where like
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: it's like saving the world or like it's this gigantic thing.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Like it's it's very like small but feels big, which
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: I like, I think is a great way to like
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: show you can make something feel epic that is not
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: insanely epic. Also, like you said earlier, the sound of
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: the truck flip is awesome. It's so it just sounds
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: so great. I think that's half the work is just that.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: And this this really started so like, I love the
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Joker as a character, and depending on how dark of
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: a time in my life it is, sometimes I identify
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: more with the Joker than I do with Batman. Even
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: though you should not blink when the abys looks back
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: at you, as we established last time. But my Joker
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: boner at this point in the movie was like a seven.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: And this is where I start getting harder and harder.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: This is immediately goes to an eight where Joker climbs
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: out of the truck that just flipped, and he's badly injured,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: but he's like limping out of the truck and he
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: just starts firing a machine gun like indiscriminately at cars
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: and Batman. I don't know what Batman's thinking. I don't
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: know if Batman thinks he's gonna scare him, or if
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Batman is like genuinely thinking about killing him. But Batman
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: just decides Joker's a pedestrian. Batman decides in the motorcycle,
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: I'm going to drive directly at the Joker. So the
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Joker stands still and realizes Batman is doing this, and
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Joker loves it. He says, he sees this is happening,
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: and he says, oh wait, hold on, I'm on the
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: wrong page of notes. He sees Batman is driving in
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: the motorcycle and he's saying, come on, come on, come on,
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: hit me, hit me, hit me, and Batman is going
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: right at him, no hesitation, and Joker doesn't fucking flinch.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: And this is really continuing this build up of the
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Joker is winning the movie. He's defeating Batman at the
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: last second. It's so close to being the last second
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: that Batman swerves to avoid him that he gets in
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: like a horrible motorcycle accident. Yes, so he loses the
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: game of Chicken. The Joker has just defeated him in
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: the game of Chicken, and one of Joker's goons goes
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: to take off Batman's mask and gets electrocuted, which is
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: a great shout out to moments in the comics where like,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: if Batman's unconscious, you can't just take off his mask.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Obviously he's prepared for that, and Joker says like no, no, no, like,
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: don't don't do that. I got it, and he pulls
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: out a knife and then that's when the twist is revealed. Ryan,
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: what happens that.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Someone puts a gun to his head? Yes, and he's
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: I love this line. Will you just give me a minute?
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Could you please? That's says yes, and he's like, we
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: got you, son of a bitch, and it's James Gordon is.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Alive, even though he told he had. He faced his
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: death to the point where he didn't tell his family.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: The police went and told his family. Jim died.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I was trying to find this and I could not.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: I scoured for it yesterday. There was a review at
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: the time that talks about the zapp scene when Joker
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: tries to pull the mat when the guy tries to
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: pull the mask off and the gu gets electrocuted, and
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Joker's reaction to it, where he's so overjoyed, and this
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: critic wrote this just really well written thing about Oh,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: this is when the Joker truly realizes I have met
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: my equal, because this guy cares so much about this
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: insane thing. He's doing that even if he's unconscious, he
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: will not let you ruin it, like he will not
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: let you touch it. And like that's why he like
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: giggles and like flails like a little kid, like he's
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: so excited that this guy is just as down as
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: he is it and I think it was this great review.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: That's that's such an amazing point. And the game of Chicken.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: The Joker he doesn't even he doesn't have value of
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: his own life, and he's genuinely like figuring Batman out,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: and through the first half of the movie, I think
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: he genuinely does want Batman dead. He wants to know
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: his secret identity. And this is the moment that changes
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: it where he's starting to figure Batman out, this this
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: game of Chicken, and he's like, wait a minute, I
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: don't think he's gonna kill me. And he's like, all right,
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: let's find out. And if if he kills me, if
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: I get killed by this motorcycle, whatever, you know, I
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: had a good run, did kind of what I wanted
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: to do, but I don't think he's going to And
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: then when he bails the last second to save Joker's life,
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: getting in a horrible motorcycle accident and getting knocked out,
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: plus the mask being protected by electric electricity. The Joker's like, oh,
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: I love this, I love this so much. This is
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: the moment where everything just for the Joker, and it
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: leads to Ryan the best scene of the movie, the
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: best Batman scene ever in fiction, one of the best
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: movie scenes in my opinion of all time.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Gordon becomes commissioner. It's a great scene.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: He does get promoted a commissioner, and everybody's really excited
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: for him.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Each ship commissioner Lobe, by the.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Way, well he's dead, so I mean.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Well, no, he made that comment. He's like, it's something
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: you'll never experience.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a dickhead comment. Yeah, so, Ryan, you're
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: gonna have to humor me. I'm going to recreate this scene,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: and in this scene, Batman will be portrayed by Timothy
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Cuff and the Joker in this scene will be portrayed
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: also by Timothy Cuff. Okay, so this is in every
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: single trailer, but it's still worth repeating because it's amazing.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: The mayor so Jokers in jail, they fully soared him,
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: they fingerprinted him, they took his DNA, they did everything
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: so the mayor goes Gordon, what do we got? Gordon
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: says nothing, no matches on prints, DNA, dental clothing, his custom,
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: no labels, nothing in his pockets but knives in lint.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: That line was in every trailer. I heard that line
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: like ten thousand times. Yeah, no name, no other alias.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: And that's what's so important about the Joker is the
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Joker is no one. He has no they they have
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: no record of him, DNA, dental fingerprints. It doesn't matter
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: who he is. That's that's not the point. And he
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: is custom clothing like he made it. They can't even
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: track a purchase. Amazing. And they say when they say
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: nothing in his pockets but knives and lint, the Joker
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: had like twenty seven knives on in person when he
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: was arrested. Yeah, so that's a great point. The mayor
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: promotes Gordon a commissioner. Everyone claps. I wrote, wouldn't be
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: so happy considering what happened to the last commissioner. And
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: the Joker is clapping as well. He's very happy for Jim.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: And Jim goes home, tells his wife, Hey, I'm actually
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: not dead. She's pissed for some reason, and his little
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: stupid shit. Son says, did Batman see you, daddy? And
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: he says, that is literally the Yoda voice?
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: What is exactly always said it? He's played by an
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: adult man, and he.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Says, actually, this time I saved him.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: That's what Jim says, which I liked at the little moment.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: So cut to this is the best scene in the film.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: What I was talking about the interrogation room between the
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Joker and Commissioner Gordon. Jokers happy about his promotions, so
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: he says evening. Commissioner Jim says, so Harvey Dent made
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: at home? What have you done with them?
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Me?
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: And he's like looking around, confused right here? Who did
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: you leave him with your people? If they still are
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: your people and not Maroney's, Does it depress you, commissioner,
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: knowing how alone you really are? And that's such an
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: important note too, because Joker is truly alone. He's as
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: alone of a person as you can be, and it
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: doesn't bother him. And that's another thing of the Joker
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: being incorruptible from his mission. Who's the Gem's like, where
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: is Harvey Dent?
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: What time is it? What does that matter? What time
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: it is? Well, depending on the time. He could be
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: in one place or several.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: I love that his face after two is great? Do
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: you understand what I mean is great? Yes?
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: And Gordon's like, all right, if we're gonna play games,
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna need a cup of coffee. And then Gordon
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: takes the Joker's cuffs off, which, even though one is
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: incredibly dangerous, I would think I was like, immediately gonna
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: get stabbed in the next somehow. Yeah, And the Joker says, oh,
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: the good cop bad cop routine, and Jim says not exactly.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: And then the light turns on and the entire time
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: behind Joker Batman was there. And Batman, such a great shot,
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: grabs the back of his skull and slams his face
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: into the metal interrogation table, and Joker says, oh, don't
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: start with the head. The victim gets all fuzzy.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: You wanted me here here, I am.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: I wanted to see what you do, and you didn't disappoint.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: You let five people die and then you let the
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Dent take the fall for you. Great point by the Joker.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Where's Dent?
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: Those mob fools want you gone so we can go
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: back to the way things were. But I know the
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: truth and there's no going back.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Then, why do you want to kill me?
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: And this is so fucking important for the dynamic of
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Batman and the Joker. The Joker laughs and goes, I
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: don't want to kill you. What would I do with that?
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: With you go go back to ripping off mob dealers? No, no, no, no, no,
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: you complete.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Me your garbage who kills for money?
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Don't talk like one of them. You're not. That's such
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: a great line too, like the Joker, and he's not
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: really wrong, like the Joker and Batman are in the
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: same bucket of people in Gotham City.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: His next line is, like, the most important part.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Is you're not even if you'd like to be to them,
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: you're just a freak like me. They need you right now,
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: but when they don't, they'll cast you out like a
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: like a leaper. They're morals their code. It's a bad
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: joke dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: as good as the world allows them to be. I'll
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: show you when the chips are down, civilized people will
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: eat each other. I'm not a monster, I'm just ahead
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: of the curb.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Also love the shirt and best by the way, Oh.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, his suit is, and you'd like buy the Halloween costume,
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: like like this is a constant problem. Everybody did this. Nope,
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: only losers like me. Did you buy the Halloween costume?
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: It looks like shit because Boat, Yeah, right exactly, So
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: you're better off just not even don't even try to
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: do the heath Ledger, Batman. If you're gonna be the
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: Joker for Halloween, trust me, I have been the Joker
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: multiple times. Don't even try to do the heath Ledger, Batman,
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: because you're gonna look like a dumbass who's like fourteen
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: cosplaying as the Joker. Yeah, I've done it to Ryan.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: So he's he's basically saying that, like people are inherently bad.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: This is like owl Man, you think that they need you,
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: and they do right now, but the second that they
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: don't want you or need you, they will turn on
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: you immediately. And Batman's sick of this, so he starts
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: to get violent and he slams Joker against the wall.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: Ohere's dent. See you have all these rules and they
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: think you'll save you.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: It's just changing my notes.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: The it cuts the gym and the cops watching the
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: interrogation and they're a little nervous because things are turning violent.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Well, when he runs over and puts the chair under
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: the door, they're like, oh.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Well, no, that's not that's not that's not yet.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's not yet.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: So the cops are getting nervous. Is getting a little violent,
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: And Batman says because jokers talking about how you have rules,
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: And Batman says, I only have one rule, which means
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: I don't kill people.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Quite in the library.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: You have to eat your crust when you eat a
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: slice of pizza, wash.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Your hands like that video.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, then that's the one you'll have to break
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: to know that. Know the truth, which is the only
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: sensible way to live in this world, is wellout rules.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: And tonight you're gonna break your one rule.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: I'm considering it.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: I thought that was funny, like he's joking with him. Well,
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: there's only a few minutes left, so you're gonna have
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: to play my little game if you want to save
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: one of them them. For a while, I really thought
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: you were Harvey Dent because the way you threw yourself
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: after her. And the second Batman realizes, holy shit, he
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: kidnapped Rachel. He does something to Rachel he grabs a
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: chair and goes and locks the door, and then Jim's like,
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: oh no, this is not good. And Joker says, look
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: at you go. Does Harvey know about you and his
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: little bunny and Batman? So this is interrogation room like
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: bullet proof glass. He takes the side of Joker's head
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: and smashes it against the glass so hard the glass
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: window completely cracks. Yeah, and uh, he screams, where are
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: they killing? Is making a choice, It's choosing between one
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: life or the other. And then Batman punches Joker in
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: the face as hard as he can and you hear
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: this like deep thud. It's like shakes your seat in
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: the movie theater thud of how hard he's punching Joker
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: in the face and screams, again, where are they choose
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: your friend the district attorney? Or is blushing bride to be?
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: I never picked up on this. Does he know that
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Harvey was going to propose to her? Because again he
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: was able to get people's DNA. So I'm like, oh, Man, like,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: are they alluding to the fact that he knows this
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: that Bruce doesn't, And it's just like whoa, whoa.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: This is the single my single favorite woman in the
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: entire movie. So Batman is just losing it and starts
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: punching him in the face as hard as he can,
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: over and over and over again, and the entire time
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: the Joker is laughing hysterically. And this is when Batman
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: truly has lost What do you do if you're a
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Batman and all you've done is intimidate criminals since you started?
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: What do you do if you're anyone, if you're an MMA,
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: if you're a guy in a bar fight, if you're
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: a guy on the street, what do you do if
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: you're punching someone in the face over and over again
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: and they're laughing hysterically at you, And Joker says, you
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: have nothing. You have nothing to threaten me with. You
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: have nothing to do with all your strength. That is
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: so fucking incredible. That's all Batman is. He's he has
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: a super suit, he's mastered martial arts, he's very strong,
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: he's intimidating, he's brilliant. He has all these gadgets, and
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: he realizes they're completely ineffective in this situation. I have
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: nothing to do. Yeah, unbelievable. Don't worry, I'll tell you
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: where they are. Both of them, and that's the point
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: you'll have to choose. And this is another part I hate.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: So he says, dance here at this address. Rachel's at
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: this other address, and Gordon says, who are you going after?
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: And Bruce immediately goes Rachel. So the cops go after Harvey,
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: and Bruce is immediately like, fuck Gotham. I don't care.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: If Gotham can be saved by Harvey Dent. It actually
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: would have saved the movie in a lot of ways
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: and like made it perfect if he chose to go
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: after Harvey and let Rachel die because he knew that
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: was for the greater good. But no, he just selfishly
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: goes for Rachel because he wants to date and quit
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: being Batman so we can do so yeah, terrible. So
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: they're both So the Gordon and his team leave to
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: go get Harvey. Bruce leaves to go get Rachel. There's
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: a crazy guy in a holding tank that's mentioning his
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: stomach hurts, and this is another fantastic Joker moment. So
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Gordon's right hand man is watching Joker personally in the
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: holding cell while everybody's looking for Harvey and Rachel. So
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Joker says, how many of your friends have I killed?
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: And the guy says six, and Joker goes, yikes, I
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: want to know why I use a knife because guns
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: are too quick. You can't savor all the emotions because
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: in their last moments, a person really shows you who
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: they are. So in a way, I knew your friends
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: better than you ever did. Would you like to know
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: which of them were cowards? So that guy is just like,
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: all right, fuck it, I'm just gonna beat him to death.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: And then the Joker immediately gets the upper hand, effortlessly
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: gets the upper hand. And meanwhile, like Harvey and Rachel
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: are both in separate warehouses that are filled with tanks
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: of gas and a bomb. Yes, Harvey is trying to
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: They're on speakerphone with each other, and Harvey is trying
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: to escape his He's tied to a chair. He knocks
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: a drum over and oil spills all over half of
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: his body. Oh oh, I don't know what will happen there.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: Cut back to the station. Joker says, I just want
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: a phone calls. He's holding a cop hostage at knife point.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: I just want a phone call. And Rachel says to Harvey, Harvey,
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: my answer is yes, I want to be with you
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: Harvey and you Ryan.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Oh so thank you?
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, Rachel? Okay. Batman goes to the warehouse with Rachel
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: in it, kicks the door down and sees Harvey.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: I hope the reaction from Harvey here is so great.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: The reaction from Batman is great. Bruce looks deeply disappointed. Yeah,
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: and I just picture to hear that, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly,
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: hear that from Rachel's side, But Harvey's saying that, no,
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: why did you come from me? But like, there's a
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: cut scene in the deleted scenes on the Bonus Features
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: where Bruce is on his motorcycle and he's going.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: So, waet, maybe Joker told me the wrong address and
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: the address he gave me is actually Harvey. But then
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: wait a minute, what if that's reverse psychology and he
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: knew I was gonna think that, so it actually is
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: the real address because he thinks I'm gonna go to
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: the other address.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: I wonder if he was thinking that. To be honest
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: with you, it's like, should you trust what this guy says?
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Clearly you shouldn't.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: But it's a great deleted scene too. It really it
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: really increases the tension in the movie. It's also like
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: the scene when they cut to the beginning of the
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: movie with a joker just sewing as close together. That
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: was pretty cool too.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: But wait a minute, what if he knew I would
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: go to the original address because I know he knew
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: that I would think it was verse psychology and he.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: Was telling me the truth.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: But then I knew it was double reverse psychology, so
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: you go to the other address. But what if he knows.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: That Alfred just patches into the bike. Stay focused, Master Wayne.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: Oh so the cops. Gordon shows up to save Rachel,
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: and I love the moment Rachel dies. She's in the
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: middle of a sentence and gets caught up.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Oh such a cold way to do it.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: Yes, ice cold. He's like Christopher Nolan's like, yeah, I
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: realize this character sucks. So she's like, Harvey, I just
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: want you to know that.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Sometimes. But um.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So Rachel blows up. Bruce saves Harvey, but the
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: building also blows up and the explosion catches the oil
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: on half of Harvar's body on fire. Yeap, But Bruce
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: does save him, and then the Joker shows up and
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: lets Lao out of prison.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: What does he say to him, is it high or
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: is it what is he?
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: I can't he just I can't remember because I'm a high.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's some great And also like the cell is
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: completely destroyed, and Lao is just like curl up in
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: a ball, like this is the worst thing that could
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: be going wrong there right now.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, China is like, Okay, I understand this was a
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: vigilante that's not working for the American government, but like,
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: this is pretty fucked up that some American kidnapped this
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: guy and is now putting him on trial in your country.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: You can't do that.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: No proof, no proof.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: Then Gordon says, oh my god, the joker wanted to
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: be caught. He wanted to be locked up in that
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: that cell. He knew this all along, This is all
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: part of his plan. Alfred reads Rachel's card, knowing that
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: Rachel's dead, and it says, dear Bruce, I need to
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: be honest with you. I'm going to marry Harvey Dent.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: She basically says, I don't love you. I love Harvey
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: and sorry, and you just want to be a earlier Yeah, yeah,
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: told him a different thing earlier. And Alfred's like, yikes,
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: but he still still plans to give it to Bruce.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: That would be incredible.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: He puts it. He's feeding Bruce's breakfast and he puts
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: it on the tray to give to him, and then
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: Bruce is like, uh, he said, wait, is it now
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: or later in the movie. But when this happens, Alfred's like,
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: here's a note, Master Wayne, and He's like, yeah, before
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: you give me this note, do you know that Rachel
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: actually wanted to be with me and she didn't even
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: like Harvey. She yeah, we were like, we were destined
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: to be together. I was gonna quit being batman and
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: she told me she loves me and we were gonna
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: get married and she didn't even like Harvey Dent. And
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: Alfred is just nodding intently and slowly taking the note
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: away from Trey.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: I think because he even recognizes this will break Bruce.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: This is this will break him forever. It's gonna be
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: He'll he'll never come back from this.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and uh, den can never know, so that's
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: what and Alfred's like okay, and then Bruce has him Alfred,
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: did you do you catch the bandit in Burma? And
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: Alfred said, yes, how did you catch the bandit in Burma,
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: and Alfred responds, we burned the forest down.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: I also really love what Alfred says before. That's when
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: he's talking to Bruce. He's like, so come on, we
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: have to. He makes him comment abou how he to
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: continue on even though it just happened. Yeah, and he's
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: like and he says like, He's like, it's like, what
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: do you mean. He's like, we try to stop that
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: maniac and he blew her half to Hell and Gordon
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: and the Gordon Jesus. Then Alfred's like, no, that's not
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: that's not what we do. He's like, this is what
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: He's like, This is about what you stood for and
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: what we stand for. And I like that. It's like
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: the team of Batman, like Lucius, Alfred, essentially Rachel and Batman.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: I really like how he said that. I thought that
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: was really kind of a I've never heard up on
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: it before. Well, like, you're not about You're about endurance.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: That's your thing, you have, that's how you win. Yeah,
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: that same theme. You're also tim I'm shocked you did
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: not mention this the famous one of the most famous
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: images from this movie, which is the Joker hanging out
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: of the cop car.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I wait, did I not?
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when he gets when he gets uh, when he
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: gets the low out of prison. I do have a
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: note when Jim says he wants to be caught, he
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: wanted to be locked up there he that's when there's
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: that image, correct, Ryan, I skipped that note for some reason.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: That's the painting I have hanging in my office behind
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: me on zoom calls at work. Is it's a painting
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: of Heath Ledger hanging out of the cup car.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: Great, great shot.
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's part I can't believe i'vegot to mention that.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: So I'm so glad you brought that up. But when
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: Jim said he wanted to be caught, he wanted to
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: be locked up there it shows the Joker in the
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: night air, hanging out of the cop car, his hair blowing,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: and you realize he's loving this. Yeah, he's having so
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: much fun. It's like this is a vacation for him
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's Uh, it's funny. Also how bad it is
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: such an iconic shot. And then in the rubble when
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: Batman picks up the coin is another very famously us
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: shot from this movie.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, because now because of the explosion want the
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: trick coin? It was double sided heads. One head is fine,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: one head is very badly damaged. Coleman Reese aka Andy
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: is now on TV and Anthony Michael Hall is the
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: host of the TV show and he's like, we are
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: going to reveal Batman's identity live tonight on air. This
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: man claims to know who Batman is?
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, I like, is this also? When Gordon visits Harvey.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: This is uh yes, and Gordon says, hey, Harvey, so
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: I heard you're not accepting skin grafts or pain medication.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: Are you are? You're not becoming a villain? Are you?
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: Also? I wanted to know and you can talk about
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: the scene. But we are one hour and forty minutes
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: into the movie and there's been no two face.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, which is I mean again, part of
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: the brilliant of this movie is how well they do
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: this and have these two very big, big villains with
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: their own arcs and everything in one movie. So they're
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: only showing half of Harvey's face while he's lying in
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: the hospital bed and Gordon's like, we're just worried about you. You
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: want to see how you're doing, and he's just like
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: pretty much. Gordon like, Harvey is just like, you guys
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: completely fucked this. And what does he say in the dialogue,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: He's like, He's like, it's more just like, why didn't
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: you guys do more? You guys have been fucking this
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: up from the beginning, and the people in your in
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: your department are the reason all this happened. There's no
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: one here to trust. And he's like and Gordon is like,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: I like, Harvey, I understand, Like I'm sorry, Harvey, like
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: no one ever meant this to go this way, and
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: just like to end this scene this way. It's like, no,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: you're not not yet. I'm like, okay, all right, better leave.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: And they show Harvey's face his face.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: Look for two face, Yeah, what do I think of this?
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: Look unrealistic but it's c g I And he's burned,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: like to the bone, his skull is exposed, his nose
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: is gone. But it looks terrifying and awesome.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: It is so is so zombie at the same time
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: as that. I again, because Nolan is not known for
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: doing creature e things, not saying like two faces one,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: but I thought for this to be movie believable. They
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: did a very good job also like later in the
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: movie when it's daytime. It is just so off putting
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: in a great way. It's just so like because when
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: his eyes moving and especially the bar later, I think
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: it looked great. I thought it aged really well. It's
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: definitely CG but I'm like, it looked really good.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, it's a it's quite a look, probably
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: the best. I mean, there's only two live action two faces,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: but so easily the best one. But I don't know,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of different ways you can draw two face.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: Like in the Batman animated series, his face is more
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: like gray and droopy, and this is more like intense
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: burn victim trauma.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: In the Cape Crusader series too, it's way more sad.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: And I described it like it's so awful, yeah, And
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: it's just like, yeah, there's just so many ways you
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: can do it again, because no one's whole thing is
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: like reality. Again, he probably would not survive this way,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: but I think it looks really good. Yeah.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: This so this, this next moment is maybe my second
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: favorite moment in the movie. This is the most joker moment.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: This is so punk rock. This is when I say,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: like Norm McDonald's the joker of comedy, So and so
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: is the joker of so and so. The Joker meets
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: with the Mob and he has a pile of money.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: It's the size of my house.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: It's huge, the size.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: Of my house. They're meeting in a ship and like
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: a shipping container and it like in an empty barge essentially,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: and uh he They're like, what are you going to
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: do with all of your money? And the joker basically says,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna burn it, And he has a bunch of
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: guys dump gasoline all over the money and the criminals
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: start to freak out. And they said, you said you
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: were a man of your word, And at least in
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: this depiction of the Joker, he is he is more
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: incorruptible than Batman. He says, Oh, I am a man
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: of my word. I'm only burning my half. All you
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: care about is money. This town deserves a better class
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: of criminal and I'm gonna give it to him.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: Another great trailer line exactly.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: He says, it's not about money, It's about sending a message.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: And he did all of this. He got all of
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: the mob's money back from Lao. He took half because
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: that was his deal with the mob. He followed through
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: on his word, and then in front of the mob,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: he burned half of their money, all of the money
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: that he got from doing all of this, so none
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: of what he was doing was motivated by money whatsoever,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: and just says a fuck you to everyone. He brought
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: the mob in here just to show them. You paid
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: me all this money and I'm lighting it on fire.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Also love that Lao is tied up on top of
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: the pile of money. Yes, and before his Joker starts talking,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: he just takes a handful of money and just throws
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: it at loud yes, like in his face, wax him
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: with a stack of it. I think it's just so funny.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: Also another favorite line of this movie, where are the Italians?
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: I think it's just great.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: And So going back to Coleman Reese being on the show,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: going to give up the identity of Batman, Joker calls
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: in to the TV show and he's live on the
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: air and he's basically like, Hey, it's the Joker. He says,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: if Coleman Reese isn't dead in an hour, I'm going
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: to blow up a hospital.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: This I was like, again, like this is damning animated series.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: Joker is calling into a live newscaster threat in the city. Awesome.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And this is where, like I said, that Chicken
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: situation where the Joker won the game of Chicken, this
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: is where the whole dynamic of what he thought of
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: Batman changed. He is now this whole movie. He said,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: I'm going to keep killing people until Batman reveals who
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: he is. Now he realizes which is the true Joker
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: and is pure form. I don't want to know who
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: Batman is. I love so much like who I am
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter what my childhood is or what my name
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: on my brother savit is doesn't matter. Same with Batman. Now,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: I don't want to know who he is because I
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: don't care because Batman is Batman, and whoever is underneath
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: the mask, that's not who he really is. Because I'm
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: really the Joker, I'm not my birth certificate, and this
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: man is the same as me, and his real name
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: is Batman. So I not only do I not care
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: who he is, but if anybody tries to fuck this
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: up for me and reveal who he is, which would
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: fuck with him being Batman, I'm gonna kill you. That
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: is the magic of the Joker. That is why he's
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: the fucking best villain ever. This is just bringing it
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: to another level. So Ryan, I think with that we
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: should bring it to a final Part four and end
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: of the Dark Knight.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: Sure, let's do it. Let's uh, let's get to some
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: insane stuff happening here. If you thought it couldn't get
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: the escalation, couldn't get more, it's beyond here, all
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: Right, Thank you for listening, Thank you, Bryan, and we'll
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: be back to finish up Night of Dark