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- 0:03Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Christian,
- 0:06Speaker 1: ami it It's Tuesday, August four, twenty twenty six. Just
- 0:13Speaker 1: fifty five people have been employed through a thirty two
- 0:15Speaker 1: million dollar government program designed to help employers diversify their workforce.
- 0:21Speaker 1: That's despired a pledge by the government to get fifteen
- 0:24Speaker 1: hundred people into work over three years. The Royal Commission
- 0:30Speaker 1: into Antisemitism and Social Cohesion will hear evidence about a
- 0:33Speaker 1: violent protest at the Sydney Opera House on October ninth,
- 0:36Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, in a new block of public hearings
- 0:40Speaker 1: starting today. Israeli flags were burned and anti Semitics lures
- 0:45Speaker 1: were hurled at the demonstration, which came just two days
- 0:48Speaker 1: after Hummas militants slaughtered twelve hundred Jews in southern Israel
- 0:53Speaker 1: and took two hundred and fifty women, children and elderly
- 0:56Speaker 1: people hostage. Ghost stories alive right now at Australian dot
- 1:00Speaker 1: com dot au. The Albanezy government wanted to turn down
- 1:05Speaker 1: the temperature on Australia's housing market and help young people
- 1:09Speaker 1: get a foot onto the property ladder, But just months
- 1:12Speaker 1: after Labour's property tax shakeup. Home values are crashing, investors
- 1:17Speaker 1: are running scared, and taxpayers are underwriting billions of dollars
- 1:21Speaker 1: of debt. So was this all part of the plan.
- 1:25Speaker 1: The Australian's Political editor, Jeff Chambers is here in just
- 1:28Speaker 1: a moment. The property market is recording its worst auction
- 1:34Speaker 1: clearance rates in nearly a decade. We are seeing the
- 1:36Speaker 1: first fallouts of the federal budget, which are driving by
- 1:39Speaker 1: a uncertainty.
- 1:40Speaker 2: Australia has experienced its sharpest monthly fall and house prices
- 1:44Speaker 2: in nearly four years, as interest rates and tax changers
- 1:49Speaker 2: take a combined.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Jeff Chambers is The Australian's Political editor and Jeff, it's
- 1:55Speaker 1: been a couple of months now since the Albanezy government
- 1:58Speaker 1: announced a pretty major shake up to Australia's property tax legislation.
- 2:04Speaker 3: We'll limit negative gearing for residential property to new builds
- 2:07Speaker 3: from July next year, and we're replacing the fifty percent
- 2:11Speaker 3: capital gains tax discount with inflation adjusted indexation to restore
- 2:16Speaker 3: the taxation of real gains.
- 2:20Speaker 1: Do you think it's all working out as intended?
- 2:22Speaker 4: From the Labor government's perspective, this is how they wanted
- 2:25Speaker 4: things to pan out. They want house prices to fall.
- 2:29Speaker 4: They want first home buyers to have a leg up,
- 2:31Speaker 4: and even if that means that auction clearance rates aren't
- 2:34Speaker 4: at the same level as they were, If that means
- 2:37Speaker 4: four months straight of property values going down for the
- 2:41Speaker 4: Albanesi government from Anthony Albernesi and Jim Charmers down, this
- 2:45Speaker 4: was their intention. So they do have some policies in
- 2:49Speaker 4: place to support that, which was around crackdown on negative gearing,
- 2:53Speaker 4: capital gains, discount trusts, but that still got a bit
- 2:57Speaker 4: of a wall to play out. The key driver that
- 2:59Speaker 4: we're seeing is sort of multi folded in terms of
- 3:02Speaker 4: you know, we've got all these A lot of them
- 3:04Speaker 4: are Coalition Morrison government era COVID programs intended to help
- 3:09Speaker 4: first home buyers get into the market. This has generally
- 3:12Speaker 4: been a state and territory based issue that under Scott
- 3:16Speaker 4: Morrison has now become a national issue and it's been
- 3:18Speaker 4: put on steroids. So all the reasonable caps, checks and
- 3:23Speaker 4: balances have been removed by this government. It's cut blanche.
- 3:26Speaker 4: It's a free for all. So you're trying to now
- 3:29Speaker 4: invite these first home buyers in. It doesn't matter how
- 3:32Speaker 4: old they are. It doesn't matter how much money they're earning.
- 3:34Speaker 4: The caps on how much in terms of the value
- 3:37Speaker 4: of the home is enormous. And then you've got interest
- 3:40Speaker 4: rates also higher. So it's that sort of combined feel
- 3:44Speaker 4: for investors who feel like, Okay, this market it's not
- 3:47Speaker 4: looking too good at the moment, and that confidence is out.
- 3:50Speaker 4: So yes, you might get more first home buyers in,
- 3:53Speaker 4: but the overall value of the property market since March quarter,
- 3:58Speaker 4: which was twelve point seven seven trillion, we've now seen
- 4:01Speaker 4: up to one hundred and seventy billion dollars of that
- 4:03Speaker 4: value shaped off.
- 4:04Speaker 1: Yeah, Senior Labor ministers like Tenure Plippisec are saying, as
- 4:08Speaker 1: you said, that this policy is all being executed as planned,
- 4:12Speaker 1: that it's making home ownership more achievable for more people.
- 4:15Speaker 1: There's never been a better time to be a first
- 4:18Speaker 1: home buyer. Not in my lifetime has there been a
- 4:21Speaker 1: better time to be a first home buyer in Australia.
- 4:23Speaker 5: I'm so happy to see.
- 4:25Speaker 1: The Treasurer of Jim Chalmers has said, actually it's the
- 4:28Speaker 1: conflict in the Middle East that's causing the market to
- 4:30Speaker 1: kind of spiral, and that Labour's policies will cause home
- 4:34Speaker 1: values to increase, albeit slower than they were before.
- 4:39Speaker 5: And so all of those things together are playing a
- 4:43Speaker 5: role here, not just one factor or another. And we
- 4:47Speaker 5: continue to expect over the course of the coming years
- 4:50Speaker 5: that prices will continue to rise, but more modestly than before.
- 4:55Speaker 1: But it seems that young people, who ostensibly this policy
- 4:59Speaker 1: was desig to help get into homes aren't coming into
- 5:02Speaker 1: the market at the rate that perhaps the government anticipated,
- 5:06Speaker 1: and equally, investors are hesitating because the value on new
- 5:12Speaker 1: builds just isn't there in the long term. Of course,
- 5:14Speaker 1: new builds are exempted from the changes to negative gearing
- 5:18Speaker 1: that was announced on Federal budget night. So what do
- 5:21Speaker 1: you make of the messaging that's coming out of the
- 5:23Speaker 1: government on this issue.
- 5:25Speaker 4: Yes, so we've got labor politicians out every day since
- 5:28Speaker 4: the budget and they use this line that was in
- 5:30Speaker 4: the budget supplementary papers and they say that the property
- 5:34Speaker 4: market will grow but a bit slower. In fact, since
- 5:37Speaker 4: the budget, the property market hasn't grown. That Treasury wording
- 5:41Speaker 4: it jumped out to me at the time. That is
- 5:43Speaker 4: very optimistic, That is very unlikely to be fact. But
- 5:47Speaker 4: it's a typical case of treasury and bureaucrats trying to
- 5:50Speaker 4: prop up the political outcomes that were wanted by this government,
- 5:54Speaker 4: and what were those outcomes. Well, the equation was made
- 5:59Speaker 4: through count focus groups and polling that labor had to
- 6:02Speaker 4: make a big play for the younger generations. So we
- 6:06Speaker 4: hear a lot about polling. And if any Australian has asked,
- 6:10Speaker 4: and this is the same for a whole range of issues,
- 6:12Speaker 4: do you think it would be a good thing for
- 6:14Speaker 4: these younger guys to crack the market and house prices
- 6:17Speaker 4: might come down a little bit. Well, a grand parent
- 6:20Speaker 4: or a parent might say, well, yeah, look, I think
- 6:22Speaker 4: that is a good thing if that helps, you know,
- 6:24Speaker 4: Jimmy or Johnny or whatever it might be get the market. Well,
- 6:28Speaker 4: I'm happy with that. Now, if you were to say
- 6:30Speaker 4: something a bit more specific to these people, say well,
- 6:32Speaker 4: your house values and to go down from one point
- 6:35Speaker 4: five to one million, are you okay with that? You're
- 6:38Speaker 4: going to get a different result. There's a lot of
- 6:40Speaker 4: debate over why the market is the way it currently is.
- 6:43Speaker 4: Is it because of interest rates? Wasn't just too high
- 6:46Speaker 4: as it was, but this government has certainly distorted the
- 6:50Speaker 4: market to a point where I think we are seeing
- 6:53Speaker 4: a crashing confidence and we are seeing material impacts at
- 6:57Speaker 4: auctions in the major capital cities and further afield. But
- 7:00Speaker 4: I think the issue is we're seeing people, particularly those
- 7:03Speaker 4: under these government schemes last year, who have paid a
- 7:06Speaker 4: lot of money with some government support, and then you
- 7:09Speaker 4: talk about negative equity, and I think there's a fundamental misunderstanding,
- 7:13Speaker 4: probably on purpose, across the government ranks, about negative equity,
- 7:17Speaker 4: and when they're asked about negative equity and the risk
- 7:20Speaker 4: that is carried through negative equity, they often will just say, well,
- 7:23Speaker 4: we're just happy that these younger people or first home
- 7:26Speaker 4: buyers are crack in the market.
- 7:31Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 7:31Speaker 1: Our colleague Noah Yim reported that the government's decision to
- 7:35Speaker 1: remove the cap on the First home Buyers Guarantee scheme,
- 7:38Speaker 1: which allows people to buy a property with as little
- 7:40Speaker 1: as a five percent deposit with the government guaranteeing that loan,
- 7:44Speaker 1: that that means that tax payers are now underwriting couples
- 7:47Speaker 1: making in some instances almost seven hundred thousand dollars a
- 7:51Speaker 1: year combined. They would previously have been ineligible for that
- 7:55Speaker 1: scheme because they're earning too much. Again, labor ministers like
- 7:59Speaker 1: ten ycond Jim Chalmers have been optimistic about that, again,
- 8:03Speaker 1: saying it's making this more achievable for more people. But
- 8:06Speaker 1: is it actually just putting up more roadblocks to people
- 8:08Speaker 1: who genuinely need a scheme like that in order to
- 8:11Speaker 1: get onto the property ladder.
- 8:13Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 8:13Speaker 4: I think this has been a common theme since the
- 8:15Speaker 4: Albanezi government was elected in twenty twenty two, whether it
- 8:18Speaker 4: was EV subsidies or in these housing areas. They don't
- 8:21Speaker 4: love means testing and they don't like capping programs, and
- 8:24Speaker 4: that means it costs a lot of money to underwrite
- 8:27Speaker 4: these things, to fund these types of schemes, and I
- 8:29Speaker 4: think some economists are correct to call a lot of
- 8:32Speaker 4: these programs middle to upper class welfare, middle class welfare.
- 8:36Speaker 4: What is the true intention of this? Is it to
- 8:38Speaker 4: buy boats? Is it to try and support their political
- 8:41Speaker 4: hopes that these younger folks that they help into a
- 8:44Speaker 4: home will always remember we've got to support labor. Or
- 8:47Speaker 4: is it really about getting genuine first home buyers people
- 8:51Speaker 4: in their twenties thirties, not people from overseas, not people
- 8:55Speaker 4: who are older people who are supposed to get into
- 8:59Speaker 4: a home. Does that home have to be in a
- 9:02Speaker 4: nicer suburb? Well, a lot of older folk who did
- 9:05Speaker 4: buy their home will argue that they had to go
- 9:07Speaker 4: out and buy in the verbs. And I think that's
- 9:09Speaker 4: the problem that we see a lot with younger people
- 9:11Speaker 4: is they want to be close to home, They want
- 9:13Speaker 4: to be close to their families. But sometimes, you know,
- 9:15Speaker 4: you got to you got to make the sacrifice and
- 9:17Speaker 4: make those hard decisions. But when these governments are just
- 9:20Speaker 4: doing these open ended schemes, all very generous schemes, why
- 9:23Speaker 4: wouldn't you tap into it? I mean, I wish. I'm
- 9:26Speaker 4: sure if I had an opportunity again and this was available,
- 9:29Speaker 4: I would probably do the same thing. Yeah.
- 9:31Speaker 1: And the other issue that is incredibly hot here that
- 9:34Speaker 1: also weaves into this issue is migration. Tell me a
- 9:37Speaker 1: little bit about how that's factoring into the situation we
- 9:40Speaker 1: now find ourselves in.
- 9:41Speaker 4: Well, I think it's you know, this is a labor
- 9:43Speaker 4: government that back in twenty twenty three pledged that they
- 9:46Speaker 4: would build one point two million new well located homes
- 9:50Speaker 4: by mid twenty twenty nine. We're way off that we're
- 9:54Speaker 4: not going to hit that mark. And that's a real
- 9:56Speaker 4: shame because one point two million on it's sort of
- 9:59Speaker 4: just a pretty moderate year of where we've been traditionally
- 10:02Speaker 4: in recent years that should have been able to be achieved.
- 10:05Speaker 4: So you've got all these issues with the housing market.
- 10:08Speaker 4: Everyone's obsessed with talking about the housing market, so you
- 10:12Speaker 4: look for something to go, well, okay, why are we
- 10:15Speaker 4: in this position? Well, it must be immigration, and immigration
- 10:19Speaker 4: covers so many areas. It covers transport, networks, community infrastructure,
- 10:24Speaker 4: housing supply. And we have had this huge surge in
- 10:29Speaker 4: post pandemic migration, two record levels, and those people have
- 10:33Speaker 4: to live somewhere. So we see one nation and now
- 10:36Speaker 4: the coalition following one nation leaning very heavily into that area,
- 10:40Speaker 4: calling for restrictions in terms of who can purchase property
- 10:44Speaker 4: in this country.
- 10:46Speaker 2: And I don't believe that foreigners should own any house
- 10:49Speaker 2: in Australia or our farming land. My attitude is i'd
- 10:54Speaker 2: actually stop them, and I'd say I'll give you two
- 10:57Speaker 2: years to sell your product. If you don't, it will
- 10:59Speaker 2: be And.
- 11:01Speaker 4: Then you've got labor holding the line around their migration program.
- 11:05Speaker 4: And I think a lot of that again, you know,
- 11:07Speaker 4: being cynical as a political journalist is because of vote getting.
- 11:11Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot of areas where you've got
- 11:14Speaker 4: big multicultural communities. But the fact there is a lot
- 11:16Speaker 4: of those multicultural communities, a lot of them have come
- 11:18Speaker 4: into this country the right way. They themselves are very frustrated.
- 11:22Speaker 4: They look around and think, ah, this is a problem too.
- 11:24Speaker 4: So you get the true issues around supply and demand,
- 11:28Speaker 4: but then you get these tangential issues which are real
- 11:31Speaker 4: issues too, which takes in migration. And I think come
- 11:34Speaker 4: the next election, whether it's later next year or early
- 11:37Speaker 4: twenty twenty eight, migration will absolutely be a hot button
- 11:40Speaker 4: issue for voters.
- 11:50Speaker 1: Just lastly, Jeff, we've been here once before when the
- 11:53Speaker 1: then Treasurer at Paul Keating attempted to quarantine as it
- 11:57Speaker 1: was called at the time, negative gearing that push rents,
- 12:00Speaker 1: particularly in Australia's capital cities as investors attempted to recoup
- 12:04Speaker 1: some of the financial losses that they made as a
- 12:07Speaker 1: result of that decision. That was reversed by the hawk
- 12:10Speaker 1: Keating government just two years later in nineteen eighty seven,
- 12:12Speaker 1: and it's been a pretty hot issue in elections ever
- 12:16Speaker 1: since then, and particularly since Bill Shorten introduced that as
- 12:19Speaker 1: a policy and lost at an election. If I can
- 12:23Speaker 1: ask you to look into your crystal ball for a second,
- 12:26Speaker 1: do you think we'll see a similar reversal from the
- 12:29Speaker 1: Albanese government if this situation gets bad enough, or do
- 12:32Speaker 1: you think that they will stay the course, Noting that
- 12:35Speaker 1: we're still a couple of years out from an election
- 12:38Speaker 1: and there is time for the electorate and for the
- 12:40Speaker 1: market to.
- 12:40Speaker 4: Settle, they're going to stay the course. This is their
- 12:43Speaker 4: big generational reform play. They'll live or die by this.
- 12:47Speaker 4: They've all been wanting to do this for a long time.
- 12:49Speaker 4: The argument is that it's a different time to when
- 12:51Speaker 4: Bill Shorten tried to do this in twenty nineteen. Bill Shorten,
- 12:54Speaker 4: I'm sure we'll disagree with that, but this is their
- 12:57Speaker 4: big generational reform piece. The long term effects it'll come
- 13:01Speaker 4: outside the election cycle. And I spoke about the one
- 13:04Speaker 4: point two million target for new homes that comes in
- 13:07Speaker 4: mid twenty twenty nine, So you realize a lot of
- 13:09Speaker 4: these guys targets will come after the next election, and
- 13:13Speaker 4: whoever's in charge, then good luck. If they win the
- 13:16Speaker 4: next election, there's going to be a lot of things
- 13:18Speaker 4: where the government hasn't met the expectations that they've set
- 13:22Speaker 4: for voters.
- 13:26Speaker 1: Jeff Chambers, thank you very much. Thanks Jeff Chambers, is
- 13:34Speaker 1: The Australian's political editor. You can read the latest in Newssport,
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