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Bonus Episode: A Brief History of Gun Violence from Music’s Past · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Hey discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah me too.
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Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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Speaker 1: the party. The bridge to get you from one full
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Speaker 1: episode or Disgraceland to the other. The backyard to dig
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Speaker 1: into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to
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Speaker 1: confront the myths, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: we're giving a brief history of gun violence from music's past,
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Speaker 1: digging into the music that you listen to to lift
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Speaker 1: you up. Rewinding back from the Doctor John shooting to
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Speaker 1: the potential Martin Scorsese shooting, previewing next week's episode on
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Speaker 1: the and we get into your voicemails, text, dms, and
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Speaker 1: as always a whole lot of rosie. This is the
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Speaker 1: podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers
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Speaker 1: who know that the best history is the history that
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Speaker 1: gets buried. Disgrace Lands, where I tell the stories they
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Speaker 1: didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else.
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Speaker 1: All right, disc goes, let's get into it. Last night
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Speaker 1: I saw the trailer for a new documentary on HBO
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Speaker 1: called Thoughts and Prayers. The film examines active shooter preparedness
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Speaker 1: in modern American life, and it got me thinking about
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Speaker 1: all the rock stars who've lived and died by the gun,
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Speaker 1: by what Steve Earle called the devil's right hand. My
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Speaker 1: first pistol was a cap and ball colt shoot as
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Speaker 1: fast as lightning, but it loads of mtes slow, loads
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Speaker 1: of mites slow. As I soon found out, it can
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Speaker 1: get you into trouble, but it can't get you out.
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Speaker 1: So then I went and bought myself a cult forty
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Speaker 1: five called a peacemaker. But I never knew why. I
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Speaker 1: never knew why. I didn't understand. Mama said, the pistol
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Speaker 1: is the devil's right hand. Music history is outlaw history,
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Speaker 1: and this history is fascinating, something more kin to a
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Speaker 1: Scorsese movie than what was inside those history books that
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Speaker 1: they gave us in high school. So in this bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: let's dive into a brief history of violence gun violence
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Speaker 1: from music's past. We start with one of the most
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Speaker 1: influential musicians of the twentieth century and artist whose name
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Speaker 1: is almost completely lost to history because of a bullet.
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Speaker 1: James Pinetop Smith, a piano player whose boogie woogie style
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Speaker 1: back in the nineteen twenties led to the creation of
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Speaker 1: rock and roll. Pinetop literally invented the term boogie woogie,
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Speaker 1: and his style and even some of his lyrics can
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Speaker 1: be heard in those excellent Ray Charles Atlantic recordings from
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Speaker 1: early in Ray's career, songs like mess Around and What
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Speaker 1: I Say. Pinetop's future was wide open when he was
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Speaker 1: playing back in the late twenties, but a stray bullet
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Speaker 1: at a Chicago house party cut him down, ending his
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Speaker 1: career and his life at the age of just twenty five.
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Speaker 1: This was a decade after blues musician Led Belly shot
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Speaker 1: Will Stafford between the eyes and killed the man over
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Speaker 1: an argument. Led Belly did about eight years a hard
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Speaker 1: time before he was released on a pard in The
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Speaker 1: Texas governor at the time was reportedly moved enough by
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Speaker 1: a Led Belly performance to grant the musician and killer clemency.
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Speaker 1: On Christmas Day nineteen fifty four, R and B singer
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Speaker 1: Johnny Yace accidentally put a bullet in his head while
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Speaker 1: playing Russian Roulette by himself. In nineteen sixty three in
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Speaker 1: the Juke Joint, James Brown nearly shot Otis Redding, who
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Speaker 1: was on stage performing at the time. Now Otis wasn't
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Speaker 1: the target. Singer Joe Tex, who James Brown hated he
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Speaker 1: was the target. Both survived, but the legend of this
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Speaker 1: incident still looms as an example of the violent Chitlin
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Speaker 1: circuit from back in the day. In nineteen seventy two,
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Speaker 1: in one of Manhattan's East Village dives, jazz trumpeter Lee
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Speaker 1: Morgan was shot and killed by his wife, Helen, who,
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Speaker 1: after nursing her husband back from a debilitating heroin addiction,
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Speaker 1: was none too happy with Lee Morgan's flagrant philandering. Lee
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Speaker 1: Morgan could have survived his wife's bullet were it not
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Speaker 1: for the raging snowstorm outside Slugs Saloon, where he lay
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Speaker 1: bleeding out. The ambulance arrived too late to save the
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Speaker 1: horn player. And this story is friggin wild. I could
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Speaker 1: talk about this all day. More details on this coming
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Speaker 1: up for you guys in the exclusive all access section
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Speaker 1: of this after parties out, then I are going to
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Speaker 1: get into it over there, so stick around. You'll hear
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Speaker 1: that Sam Cook shot and killed Marvin Gay, shot and
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Speaker 1: killed John Lennon, Kurt Cobain, Tupac, Biggie Selena, jam Master,
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Speaker 1: j die Back, Darryl. The list of musicians who died
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Speaker 1: by the gun goes on and on and on. The
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Speaker 1: eras change, the scenes changed, the style of music may change,
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Speaker 1: but the gun remains. Spade Cooley, Phil Spector, take K
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Speaker 1: forty seven, Jim Gordon, Roger Troutman, maybe Jerry Lelewis. All
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Speaker 1: these dudes, I'm not saying Jerry Lewis, but all the
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Speaker 1: other dudes, they all used the devil's right hand, as
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Speaker 1: Steve Earl said, to kill Doctor John this week's full
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Speaker 1: episode subject of Disgrace, and was nearly killed in a gunfight.
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Speaker 1: His hand was shot up and he was forced to
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Speaker 1: give up playing guitar and to become a piano player.
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Speaker 1: Perhaps that was something good that came from gun violence.
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Speaker 1: You can make that argument, I guess. Martin Scorsese, the
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Speaker 1: subject of our next rewind episode, not a musician, but
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Speaker 1: arguably the most rock and roll filmmaker of all time.
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Speaker 1: He had to be talked out of shooting his producer
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Speaker 1: on taxi driver by none other than Steven Spielberg, and
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Speaker 1: that story, as incredible as it is, Like the doctor
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Speaker 1: John story is revelatory, but neither story. They're not hard
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Speaker 1: to believe because the gun in gun violence has been
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Speaker 1: at the center of music history going back over one
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Speaker 1: hundred years. It's as much a part of the American
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Speaker 1: soundtrack as boogie woogie piano playing and jazz trumpets and
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Speaker 1: Otis Redding and Marvin Gay and all the rest. Because
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Speaker 1: music history is outlaw history, and personally, I can't get
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Speaker 1: enough of it. I'll be back after this with your calls, texts,
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Speaker 1: emails and more. All right, good people, of disgrace and
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Speaker 1: disc goes across the United States of America and beyond.
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Speaker 1: We are here hanging on the telephone, back in the
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Speaker 1: saddle again in the after party and talking about Doctor John.
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Speaker 1: This week's full episode subject of Disgraceland Doctor John the
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Speaker 1: Great mac Reveneck prompted the question of the week, which
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Speaker 1: was what music heals you? What music do you put
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Speaker 1: on to pull yourself out of those dark places that
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Speaker 1: James Elroy warned us about. Let's check out Ben from
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Speaker 1: the five four to one.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Jake, this is Ben from the five four to one.
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Speaker 2: I'm a counselor and I love music and art, and
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Speaker 2: I definitely use music to help my mood. But I
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Speaker 2: have different ones, like when i'm really and I just
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Speaker 2: I don't know what to do. I'm it's feeling really low.
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Speaker 2: I love to listen to old Delta blues like let
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Speaker 2: Belly and Son House up to like Muddy Water, So
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Speaker 2: I love that that genre right there. And then if
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Speaker 2: I'm angry, I want to listen I want to listen
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Speaker 2: to Rage against the Machine. I want to listen to Tool,
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Speaker 2: you know, I want to listen to things that kind
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Speaker 2: of get that aggression out. But when I'm happy, man,
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Speaker 2: I want to listen to Grateful Bed. I want to
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Speaker 2: listen to Sublime. I want to listen to Shoot Hank
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Speaker 2: Williams Junior or Dolly Parton. I mean, it's the vibe
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Speaker 2: of the person, this the vibe of the band more
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Speaker 2: than the genre when it comes to being happy. I've
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Speaker 2: been listening to you since your first episode.
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Speaker 3: Man.
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Speaker 2: I found you just based on the picture on the
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Speaker 2: iTunes there, and I hadn't heard anybody produced show like you.
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Speaker 2: I didn't anybody tell a story like you with the
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Speaker 2: music and the beat and the man I've been hooked
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Speaker 2: ever since. Brother, you're doing a great job.
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Speaker 1: Ben. You and I have the exact pop approach, and
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Speaker 1: in regards to calibrating our emotions with music, it looks
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Speaker 1: like you reinforce the emotion with your music selection. I
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Speaker 1: kind of do the opposite when I'm when I'm sad,
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Speaker 1: at least I don't. I don't listen to sad music.
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Speaker 1: It just I just I want to go totally opposite.
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Speaker 1: I want to listen to Casey in the Sunshine Band,
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Speaker 1: Like I mentioned, I want to listen to listen to
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Speaker 1: Chic by the Way. The just you know this is
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Speaker 1: an unpaid endorsement here, but the Studio fifty four station
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Speaker 1: on Sirius is mine and Zes' new obsession. It's really
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Speaker 1: hard to find for me anyways. For some of you
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Speaker 1: it won't be hard, but for me it's it's hard
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Speaker 1: to find obscure disco on the fly. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: know it's out there, I'm not a connoisseur of it.
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Speaker 1: And if I go to any of the streamers and
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Speaker 1: I and I try to search for disco that I like,
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Speaker 1: that's maybe new to me that I haven't heard. That's soulful.
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Speaker 1: That's not just like all the shit we've heard a
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Speaker 1: million times. It's it's hard to find that stuff on
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Speaker 1: spot and elsewhere. But I got to say the Studio
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Speaker 1: fifty four station does a good job with the disco
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Speaker 1: choice nugs and it will lift you up out of
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Speaker 1: your funk. All right. I'm like the Delta Blues there, Ben,
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Speaker 1: I can't. I can't go there when I'm sad, but
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Speaker 1: I hear you. You know there was a time when
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Speaker 1: I did. Just not anymore. I'm more with you when
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Speaker 1: you're feeling happy already and you're putting on the dead
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Speaker 1: or when you're you know, you're in the gym and
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Speaker 1: you're you're rocking out to rage. I get that. I
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Speaker 1: get that, but I can't reinforce the sadness with the
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Speaker 1: sad vibes. Nonetheless, thanks for your call, Ben, appreciate you.
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Speaker 1: Let's check out Scotty from the three one three.
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Speaker 3: Hey, Jacob Scotty from the three one three Yo, What
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Speaker 3: up Detroit? I wanted to answer a question regarding music
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Speaker 3: that heals you, and I agree with you. You know,
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Speaker 3: when I'm feeling like I need to be healed by music,
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Speaker 3: it's a lot of upbeat stuff like funk, soul, R
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Speaker 3: and B. But I wanted to share with you something
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Speaker 3: that healed me in.
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Speaker 2: A time when I really needed it.
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Speaker 3: Back in two thousand and seven, I was in Afghanistan
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Speaker 3: and I discovered a record by Eels. Remember Eels Nova
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Speaker 3: came for the soul Well. They had an album called
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Speaker 3: Blinking Life and Other Revelations. And this album is very long,
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Speaker 3: very underrated, and it is a journey to listen to.
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Speaker 3: But towards the probably the second third of the album,
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Speaker 3: there's a track on it called hey man, now You're
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Speaker 3: really living And I encourage anyone who is listening to
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Speaker 3: this to reach out and listen to that track. During
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Speaker 3: the many years that I spent in Afghanistan and Iraq,
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Speaker 3: anytime I was feeling down, which was a lot of times,
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Speaker 3: I would put that particular song on and then I
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Speaker 3: would cry, and then I would be somewhat healed. Twenty
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Speaker 3: years later, I still listen to that song whenever I
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Speaker 3: need a quick pick.
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Speaker 1: So thanks for listening, Scotti, Thanks for the call. Man
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Speaker 1: love Eels. Don't know this record, I say, I love Eels.
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Speaker 1: My relationship with Eels is every time I've ever heard
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Speaker 1: a song I've gone like, oh, what's this? This is
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Speaker 1: very interesting. I kind of like it a lot, and
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Speaker 1: then I find out if it's the Eels, and then
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Speaker 1: I don't dig in any deeper. So I'm going to
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Speaker 1: take your message here as a prompt to listen to
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Speaker 1: this album. I'm going to check it out and to
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Speaker 1: check out Hey man, now you're really living as well.
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Speaker 1: Appreciate you sharing your story here. Thank you for your service, Scotty.
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Speaker 1: Appreciate you. If anyone out there listening right now knows
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Speaker 1: Mark from Eels, shoot him this episode. I'm sure he'd
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Speaker 1: appreciate hearing what Scotty has to say about his music
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Speaker 1: and how it helped him while he was overseas in
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Speaker 1: a dark place. Thanks for the message, Scotty. By the way,
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Speaker 1: I love the Eels tune that was in Black Rabbit
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Speaker 1: recently Prize Fighter. See I know that song. All right,
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Speaker 1: Let's check out Chris for the six to one to two.
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Speaker 4: Hey, Jake, this is Chris. Call him from the six
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Speaker 4: to one to two. That's the question about what band
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Speaker 4: or music could revived you and I have an experience
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Speaker 4: at the Minnesota Zoo with Government Mule. I had just
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Speaker 4: gotten out of jail that morning after a dui. My
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Speaker 4: life was not good at all. I was going down
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Speaker 4: the wrong track, and it all hit me at once that,
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Speaker 4: you know what, Life's pretty simple and all you gotta
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Speaker 4: do is go see good music and enjoy the beauty
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Speaker 4: that's all around us and do the best you can.
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Speaker 4: And uh, that was about twenty five years ago, and
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Speaker 4: my life's been stellar ever since and it keeps getting better.
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Speaker 4: Thanks Rod, keep doing what you're doing.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: Chris my man, you're calling in from your your own
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Speaker 1: episode of disgrace THEND here. Brother, You're absolutely right. Life
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Speaker 1: is pretty simple. Just listen to the music, happy to
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Speaker 1: hear that music set you straight and that you are
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Speaker 1: And maybe it's freed me up a little. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: Parties it makes the eff phras go way. Long so
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Speaker 1: but then THEN i, GO i can't do, this, OKAY
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Speaker 1: recommendations for like a month or two or something like.
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Speaker 1: That so it's JUST i think WHAT i want to.
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Speaker 1: Do i'm gonna do this thing in every. Episode i'm
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Speaker 1: gonna try to do this thing where from now, On,
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Speaker 1: Okay i'm gonna do a quick recommendation segment one, book one,
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Speaker 1: whatever episodes we're talking about this. Week, Okay we've got
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Speaker 1: A scorsese episode coming up in the rewind slot this,
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Speaker 1: week and then we've got the Last waltz episode coming
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Speaker 1: up next. Week So scorsese is gonna be the theme
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Speaker 1: of my recommendations this. Week AND i know that the
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Speaker 1: New scorsese Doc Mister scorsese On apple is not an
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Speaker 1: you guys have not any of you are A scorsese,
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Speaker 1: You run, okay don't. Walk it's, incredible it's, so, so so.
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Speaker 1: Good so that's the doc, recommendation Mister. Scorsese for the
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Speaker 1: book That i'm, Recommending It's Made, men which is the
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Speaker 1: story of the making Of, goodfellas Which zeth asked me about,
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Speaker 1: Yesterday and turns Out i've read it AND i just
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Speaker 1: FORGOT i read. IT i read it so long. Ago
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Speaker 1: but there's information in this book THAT i forgot about
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Speaker 1: That zeth reminded me of about the songs That scorsese
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Speaker 1: chose to be in the soundtrack For. Goodfellas it didn't
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Speaker 1: make it into that film that's in that. Book it's
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Speaker 1: a great reason to read the, book among many other
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Speaker 1: reasons made men by good. Fellaws But i'm gonna talk
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Speaker 1: more about. That that little piece of info there on
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Speaker 1: The scorsese soundtrack in a bit put a pin in.
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Speaker 1: That my, recommendation my music, recommendation my, record my album
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Speaker 1: recommendation Is jericho by The. Band, now this album has
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Speaker 1: nothing to do With Martin. Scorsese Martin Scorsese's Cocaine Buddy
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Speaker 1: Robbie robertson isn't even on this. Album it came out
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Speaker 1: in the, nineties again Without Robbie. Robertson, however it's a great,
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Speaker 1: record and it has a, scorching scorching version of the
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Speaker 1: band Doing Bruce Springsteen's Atlantic city and it's a great.
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Speaker 1: Version but it's not even the best version of the
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Speaker 1: band doing this is a live version that you can
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Speaker 1: find of them doing this tune that is also. FANTASTIC
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Speaker 1: That don't quote me on that, piece but, anyways just
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Speaker 1: check Out jericho by The. Band it's. Fantastic it's early nineties,
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Speaker 1: record really really. Good all, right those are my recks
21:46
Speaker 1: for this, week Mister scorsese for Documentary Made, men the
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Speaker 1: book about the making Of, goodfellas that's my Book, wreck
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Speaker 1: And jericho by the band is my Album. Wreck if
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