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NFL Survivor Pool Week 12 Review | 2025 Strategy, Picks & Lessons Learned · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All system's going clear. We lift on what is going
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  Speaker 1: on everyone? This is sheets and we were reviewing.
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  Speaker 2: The results from week one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven,
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  Speaker 2: twelve of the Survivor Pool experience. We'll talk about the
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  Speaker 2: recommendations we made for last week, how they worked out,
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  Speaker 2: what worked, what didn't, and then we're also going to
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  Speaker 2: take a look at the various.
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  Speaker 1: Pools that we've been tracking with the.
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  Speaker 2: You, with our users, including myself, to see what we did,
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  Speaker 2: how many people are left, and you know, make this
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  Speaker 2: into a little bit of a sweat as well.
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  Speaker 1: For those of you who are not premium members yet,
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  Speaker 1: I strongly encourage you to become premium members.
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  Speaker 2: You are again, this is a really important time in
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  Speaker 2: Survivor Pool, in the Survivor Pool business where you really
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  Speaker 2: want to learn how all this works.
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  Speaker 1: So really, you know, do I would say a sweet
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  Speaker 1: spot of about three years where you're going to have a.
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  Speaker 2: Combination of huge action and nobody really knowing how to play,
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  Speaker 2: So it's really important to take advantage of that.
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  Speaker 1: And the Premium show on Wednesdays is when we.
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  Speaker 2: Really dive in and you know, get well into the
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  Speaker 2: weeds with these teams and these concepts and these strategies.
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  Speaker 1: So this one we are going to talk about last week.
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  Speaker 2: And you'll see that the tool is still set at
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  Speaker 2: last week's EV, which is kind of what I wanted to.
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  Speaker 1: Show you anyway. And first of all, let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: the teams.
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  Speaker 2: So we did identify Detroit and Baltimore and Seattle as
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  Speaker 2: being three teams that if you had available, there was
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  Speaker 2: really no reason to not use them, and I didn't
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  Speaker 2: emphasize that Unfortunately, a lot of your your decisions are
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  Speaker 2: going to be made for you to some degree because
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  Speaker 2: you don't you're not going to have, you know, all
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  Speaker 2: the top teams available. And we talked about again in
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  Speaker 2: both singles and doubles, Detroit, Baltimore, and Seattle, just kind
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  Speaker 2: of in order whichever one you had available the better.
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  Speaker 2: I did say that if it was between Baltimore and
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  Speaker 2: Seattle for somehow, you probably want to use Seattle only
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  Speaker 2: because the Baltimore spots were coming up more recently.
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  Speaker 1: So aside from that, it was pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Clear that whatever you you know, if you had any
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  Speaker 2: of these three teams, you should kind of unload them.
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  Speaker 2: New England we thought was very important that you saved
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  Speaker 2: for either week thirteen or week seventeen, and.
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  Speaker 1: Then after that it became a little tricky.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you had this San Francisco play that I
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  Speaker 2: thought was an atrocious play. I really did. In almost
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  Speaker 2: all pools, they were in a negative EV of point
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  Speaker 2: eight seven. Not to mention they have a smash spot
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  Speaker 2: in week fifteen, not not to mention that they had
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  Speaker 2: a pretty decent spot coming up now week thirteen. Not
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  Speaker 2: the greatest, but it's still not bad. So I thought
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  Speaker 2: it was very important to save those. So I really
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  Speaker 2: didn't like them at all unless you really had no
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  Speaker 2: other options. And we'll talk about my pools where I
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  Speaker 2: really didn't have any options and I had to play them,
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  Speaker 2: but it was a really, really terrible play as far
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  Speaker 2: as the numbers go. And then other teams to drop to.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we thought if Green Bay was kind of sneaky,
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  Speaker 2: if you only had them available, it wasn't bad. And
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  Speaker 2: then the RAMS was again it was sort of like
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  Speaker 2: a last resort. You know, their EV was not great.
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  Speaker 2: They have spots in week thirteen and also in week eighteen,
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  Speaker 2: maybe seventeen, but again it just depended.
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  Speaker 1: On who you had.
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  Speaker 2: And then the team that was a really kind of
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  Speaker 2: gross that you had to drop all the way to
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  Speaker 2: point eighty one.
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  Speaker 1: To get was Vegas.
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  Speaker 2: And I did think that Vegas in double pick pools
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  Speaker 2: was kind of like an unfortunate necessity. Like I really
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  Speaker 2: felt as though, if it was between Vegas and San Francisco,
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  Speaker 2: then you really should play Vegas. I mean, their EV
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  Speaker 2: was not that much worse and they had zero future
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  Speaker 2: value and I couldn't talk it looks like I couldn't
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  Speaker 2: talk everybody into it. We'll talk about what some of
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  Speaker 2: our users did. But even though Vegas did in fact lose,
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  Speaker 2: they were the only team basically to lose the whole day,
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  Speaker 2: the whole Weekuffalo lost. We didn't like them at all,
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  Speaker 2: But it was one of those weeks where everything just
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  Speaker 2: kind of shuffled around. You know, everybody advanced, but all
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  Speaker 2: advancements were not created equal. You know, if you advance
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  Speaker 2: with San Francisco, I mean, that's great, but you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: have to come up with with with something to battle
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  Speaker 2: week fifteen, where San Francis is going to be an
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  Speaker 2: enormous favorite. Now there are options in fifteen, we'll get there,
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  Speaker 2: but that was the one, uh, the one player I
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  Speaker 2: really didn't like that more people play.
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  Speaker 1: It than I would have I would have preferred.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's take a look at some of these pools
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  Speaker 2: and see what the people we've been tracking have done
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  Speaker 2: and where we're at in these In these pools, we'll
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  Speaker 2: get back to my high stakes one in a second
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  Speaker 2: to the two I want to look at as far
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  Speaker 2: as big pools are, these is the Ship in Nation
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  Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty k and also the Splash now
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  Speaker 2: the Splash big two point five million. Now in the
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  Speaker 2: in the Ship and Nation one, we didn't lose many players,
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  Speaker 2: but we still got down to three hundred and twelve.
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  Speaker 2: And just to kind of show you the breakdown of
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  Speaker 2: the stats, I mean, you had the Niners fifty two owned.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that was a really, really bad play. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: the Raiders then went down. They had twenty two percent,
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  Speaker 2: but everybody advanced. But again except for the twenty two
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  Speaker 2: percent that had the Raiders.
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately.
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  Speaker 2: But you look at this extreme ownership on the Niners,
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  Speaker 2: like the Ravens, I could see because at least the
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  Speaker 2: didn't have any future value, well they had a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: They had much future value today. So Seattle I thought
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  Speaker 2: should have been much higher, But I guess they weren't
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  Speaker 2: as available.
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  Speaker 1: I suppose.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take a look at the who are players played?
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  Speaker 2: So Wurhanes is the first guy who we'd been kind
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  Speaker 2: of helping track, and so with him, there were two
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  Speaker 2: different pools, and we'll get back to splash in a minute.
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  Speaker 2: In this particular one, he opted to I guess, take
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  Speaker 2: my advice, I guess, and play Baltimore in the RAMS.
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  Speaker 2: That was because when we get to we see the splash.
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  Speaker 2: He went with Baltimore and Vegas. And I thought that
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  Speaker 2: one kind of way to handle this Vegas play, which
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  Speaker 2: you know, the numbers is pretty bad, but you just
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  Speaker 2: had kind of very few options, was to maybe play
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  Speaker 2: one Vegas and one RAMS and listen because Vegas lost.
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  Speaker 2: I am very glad that he did opt for the strategy,
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  Speaker 2: and he ended up advancing, Okay, better advanced than not advanced.
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  Speaker 2: Now again, he doesn't have the RAMS anymore, so we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna have to dipsy, do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: To get through this.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that was probably his best option. Let's
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  Speaker 2: look at hoops, our own hoop. He had two in
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  Speaker 2: this one, and the first one he had Detroit and Baltimore,
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  Speaker 2: and there was literally no reason to not play these.
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  Speaker 2: They were two smash plays in doubles, no reason to
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  Speaker 2: not play those. The second entry, I did not agree
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  Speaker 2: with his approach. I recommended Baltimore in Vegas, and fortunately
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  Speaker 2: for his entry, he didn't listen to me, and he
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  Speaker 2: went with Baltimore San Francisco and did advance. So we'll
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  Speaker 2: see if we can get through week fifteen given that approach,
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  Speaker 2: and considering also that he had burned Jacksonville in.
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  Speaker 1: This entry in week one, which is going to be
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  Speaker 1: important for week fifteen. But you know what, better better
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  Speaker 1: to be live than dead, I suppose. But so that
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  Speaker 1: was the Ship and Nation tournament. Now let's go to
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  Speaker 1: the Splash. Let's get rid of this.
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  Speaker 2: We'll go to Splash Million Maker or whatever it is,
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  Speaker 2: two point five million. And in this one, again just
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  Speaker 2: to kind of show you, this is the one where
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  Speaker 2: were he actually played the Age w.
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  Speaker 1: R Age.
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  Speaker 2: This is where again he played Vegas in Baltimore and
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  Speaker 2: Baltimore in Vegas, and he went down here.
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  Speaker 1: That's the way it goes sometimes. And then we'll go
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  Speaker 1: to hoops entries here.
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  Speaker 2: Which I think were similar, if not identical, to his
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  Speaker 2: other ones. And in this one, again, what was good
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  Speaker 2: about it was that the previous week he played Dallas
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  Speaker 2: in the second part of the entry, which meant that
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  Speaker 2: he didn't have to do anything different here than in
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  Speaker 2: the Ship and Nation tournament. So he did the same
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  Speaker 2: thing in both entries. He played Baltimore Detroit, which I recommended.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was no reason to not do that.
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  Speaker 2: And same story, he played San Francisco.
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  Speaker 1: I think that I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't like that at all, especially considering at Jacksonville
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  Speaker 2: week one. But nonetheless he advanced. And that's and there
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  Speaker 2: we go down to five hundred and thirty seven people there.
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  Speaker 2: I do think it's going to go to the end
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  Speaker 2: at this point. That was a tough week to not
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  Speaker 2: lose anybody. So take a look, by the way, at
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  Speaker 2: the stats from that tournament. Pretty similar as far as
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  Speaker 2: distribution goes. Now, let's take a little at these two
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  Speaker 2: high stakes ones that I'm in. Let's first look at
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  Speaker 2: this one. This is the this is the five K,
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  Speaker 2: and I put in a temporary place over a holder
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  Speaker 2: for the RAMS here, but talk about that tomorrow. This
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  Speaker 2: was down to nineteen and everybody advanced, and in this
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  Speaker 2: particular tournament, I had no choice. I mean I had
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  Speaker 2: to play either San Francisco or I could have played
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  Speaker 2: New England. Now what had happened was the week before,
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  Speaker 2: as you might recall, I played Pittsburgh specifically to save
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  Speaker 2: New England, to give me some kind of juice, and
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  Speaker 2: I just felt it was important to continue to push
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  Speaker 2: that edge and not play New England in Week twelve
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  Speaker 2: because I really didn't want to use my New England
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  Speaker 2: to battle against those three enormous favorites where you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're probably gonna win. I figured I would push New
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  Speaker 2: England back a little bit. So that's why I played
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  Speaker 2: San Francisco. You know, there was just because there was
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  Speaker 2: no other option given what I had to do, and
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  Speaker 2: fortunately that survived title. On the other hand, he played
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  Speaker 2: his best play, which was Baltimore. Now again I didn't
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  Speaker 2: have Baltimore, so I couldn't, you know, I couldn't do it.
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  Speaker 2: He did exactly what he's supposed to do, and he
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  Speaker 2: advanced rather you know, obviously pretty handily, I guess, and
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  Speaker 2: so we everybody kind of advanced and did what they
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  Speaker 2: had to do and they're still nineteen left.
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  Speaker 1: Show you the.
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  Speaker 2: Stats, by the way, from that tournament, they had ten
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  Speaker 2: people of this nineteen played the Ravens and then four Seattle's,
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  Speaker 2: four San Francisco's, and one Packers. I know, none of
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  Speaker 2: the teams were really at risk. Actually the Ravens were
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  Speaker 2: at risk for a while, but everybody was kind of
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  Speaker 2: one kind of handily. And here the other big buy
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  Speaker 2: in that I am in this one's still down to fourteen.
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  Speaker 2: I already started mapping out my future. Here we'll see
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  Speaker 2: if I actually do this. These are just kind of ideas.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm actually played Cleveland or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: but in this one, I did have Seattle available, so
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  Speaker 2: there was no reason for me to not play them,
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  Speaker 2: And likewise, everybody sort of advanced.
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  Speaker 1: And in that tournament and get down to.
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  Speaker 2: Fourteen that had seven had Baltimore, three Seahawks, forty nine
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  Speaker 2: ers on one line.
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  Speaker 1: So very similar distribution.
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  Speaker 2: So again, nobody really did a lot of damage this
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  Speaker 2: past week, and everybody's just kind of just positioning for
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  Speaker 2: what is going to be probably a pretty interesting Week thirteen.
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  Speaker 2: So I think I guess a real quick preview of
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  Speaker 2: Week thirteen is this, Let's see if this is updated.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think, so it's take a look. Real quick update.
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  Speaker 1: I doubt it.
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  Speaker 2: Uh nas the week twelve, but I will say we
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  Speaker 2: look at the at least the odds here that are
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  Speaker 2: updated week thirteen.
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  Speaker 1: You know it's gonna be.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's gonna be a choice probably between the
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  Speaker 2: two biggest favorites. Like most most people will have the
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  Speaker 2: Chargers available, so that's gonna be a decision which people
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  Speaker 2: have to make. Then if you still have the Rams,
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna be They're gonna look good. And then it's
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  Speaker 2: the all these seven point favorites you know in New England,
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  Speaker 2: if you still have them, Baltimore, Philly, Jacksonville talked about
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  Speaker 2: them a little bit before Miami, San Francisco. All these
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  Speaker 2: like six point favorites are all gonna be in play,
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  Speaker 2: specifically for those people that don't have the chargers or
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  Speaker 2: the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: But overall, that's pretty much all I want to do
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  Speaker 2: as far as recapping last week.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna get into the weeds.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about our contests, We're gonna I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: recommend actual plays to we.
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  Speaker 1: Hate and ship it and excuse me at hoop again.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about who I think titles should play
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  Speaker 2: in the big buy in, I will talk about who
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  Speaker 2: I might want to play in the big buyings. And
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  Speaker 2: if you have any questions specific to your own pools,
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  Speaker 2: you know, obviously only for Premium members, you could drop
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  Speaker 2: them in the Discord channel and I'll get to them tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: And tomorrow's Premium show is gonna be. It'll be Wednesday,
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  Speaker 2: right at three p m.
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  Speaker 1: Eastern. That is going to do it. Week thirteen coming up.
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  Speaker 3: Good luck, everybody, hensst.
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  Speaker 4: Mother has and still mother and sets handed bussted and
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  Speaker 4: mons and buns, still
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  Speaker 3: And st