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American Psychiatric Association Foundation and OneLegUpAlex Media Discuss Mental Health to Kick Off ADA Week 7-20-26 · OneLegUpAlex Media

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  Speaker 1: Here's your host, Alex Garrett.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it was quite a weekend here at One leg
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  Speaker 2: of Ballex Media at Fanatics Best, but we're going to
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  Speaker 2: put that aside for the moment because now a bigger
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  Speaker 2: cause is happening. It's the Americans with Disabilities Act Anniversary Week,
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  Speaker 2: which is Sunday, July twenty six, twenty twenty six, and
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  Speaker 2: I thought addressing mental health is one of the perfect
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  Speaker 2: ways to start it. And I have with me the
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  Speaker 2: and I'm very honored to having me. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: the executive director of the American Psychiatric Association Foundation, Raoul
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  Speaker 2: Andrews Junior, esquire to talk about some interesting pilot programs
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  Speaker 2: going on in the city right now to address mental health. Firstly, Raoul,
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  Speaker 2: thanks for joining me at the One League of Alex
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  Speaker 2: Media podcast today.
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  Speaker 1: A thank you for having us. It's a privilege to
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  Speaker 1: be here.
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  Speaker 2: So tell me about this pilot program because I'm very intrigued.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I've seen homeless outreach teams do their best
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  Speaker 2: to try and make the homeless more comfortable, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure this goes beyond homeless, but I want to start there.
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  Speaker 2: But they don't really say yes to the outreach programs
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  Speaker 2: how will this program help those mental health is use
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  Speaker 2: on our streets. I want to start there totally.
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  Speaker 1: So one of the things that the APA Foundation does
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  Speaker 1: as the affiliated charity of the American Psychiatric Association is
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  Speaker 1: try to link psychiatry, science and community together so that
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  Speaker 1: we can get better outcomes. And so our Health and
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  Speaker 1: Healing Collaborative, which is funded by the Mother Cabrini Health
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  Speaker 1: Foundation right there in New York, paired us with Elevate
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  Speaker 1: Health so that we have a three pronged or three
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  Speaker 1: legged approach to doing something different that's been tried before.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, we have a bilingual outreach program, and
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  Speaker 1: so we're coming to audience's since and family caregivers in
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  Speaker 1: English and in Spanish. Second, instead of just saying we're
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  Speaker 1: going to meet people where they are, we actually are
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  Speaker 1: hosting or co hosting community events, mostly in houses of worship.
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  Speaker 1: And third, and most significantly, we have badged some of
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  Speaker 1: our psychiatry residents. These are young early physicians studying training
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  Speaker 1: to be psychiatrists. Were they going to actually be deployed
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  Speaker 1: across the Bronx in this pilot program to add capacity
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  Speaker 1: to work with faith leaders and peer navigators so that
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  Speaker 1: we're bringing all of the resources we have to bear
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  Speaker 1: on this very serious problem.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it is serious, and you know, you look at
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  Speaker 2: the news today. There was a firearm, there was a
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  Speaker 2: smoke bomb with the FBI. I mean, there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: going on there and you look at that could be
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  Speaker 2: a mental health thing. So do you think your program
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  Speaker 2: could reduce crime?
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  Speaker 1: When we talk about serious mental illness, things that typically
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  Speaker 1: come up. You have overrun or over crowded emergency rooms.
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  Speaker 1: You have housing issues, particularly homelessness, and things like that
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  Speaker 1: that are attached to serious mental illness. And then in
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  Speaker 1: some instances we see justice involved. And while we're careful
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  Speaker 1: working with the APA not to automatically assume that every
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  Speaker 1: crime is a mental health thing behind it. As a
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  Speaker 1: matter of fact, we're working very hard to say, don't
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  Speaker 1: automatically criminalize somebody with serious mental illness because that helps
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  Speaker 1: feed and perpetuate stigma. But we do believe working with
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  Speaker 1: these faith leaders in the churches and other houses of
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  Speaker 1: worship that we've selected, that they're already talking to folks
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  Speaker 1: who are at life's edge, are losing hope. And we
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  Speaker 1: think by going to those trusted leaders and those trusted communities,
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  Speaker 1: we have a better chance to bridge those who want
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  Speaker 1: to help with those who need them.
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  Speaker 2: All right, well, I like that bridge. And obviously, you
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  Speaker 2: know some people are not wanting to help anymore because
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  Speaker 2: you go to someone and you offer some food or
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  Speaker 2: something like that and they say no. I mean, how
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  Speaker 2: do you feel this program is going to really get people?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't want going to say off the streets,
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  Speaker 2: but how do you get how do you get them
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  Speaker 2: going in the right direction. I guess what I want
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  Speaker 2: to say is some people do say no to programs
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  Speaker 2: like this.
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  Speaker 1: Well they do. And before we came to New York
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  Speaker 1: with the Health and Healing Collaborative, we already had some
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  Speaker 1: background experience with some testing we had done in Flint, Michigan,
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  Speaker 1: some testing we had done in Alexandria, Virginia, and some
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  Speaker 1: testing we had done in Memphis, Tennessee. And what we
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  Speaker 1: saw was faith leaders who were either privately or publicly
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  Speaker 1: begging for help from the medical community because they were
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  Speaker 1: taken on increasingly complex mental health concerns and they did
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  Speaker 1: not feel like they were equipped to do it. So
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  Speaker 1: the first thing we did alex we took a faith
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  Speaker 1: guide that we had before the pandemic and we updated
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  Speaker 1: it and made it bilingual, so we published a faith
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  Speaker 1: guide for faith leaders in English and in Spanish. Then
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  Speaker 1: the other thing we did was to get these trainees,
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  Speaker 1: these vanguard residents who are in our fellowship program, and said,
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  Speaker 1: we got a unique opportunity where you can actually give
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  Speaker 1: back while you're studying to be a psychiatrist, and if
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  Speaker 1: you would deploy with us, then what happens is they're
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  Speaker 1: working with faith leaders who the congregants already know, or
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  Speaker 1: the parishioners already know, or community members who may be
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  Speaker 1: around these communities but not truly a member of the house.
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  Speaker 1: They're working with peer navigators who actually are members of
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  Speaker 1: these congregations or pair uh. And then we're saying, again,
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  Speaker 1: we're not diagnosing on the spot, but we are trying
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  Speaker 1: to bring you some greater awareness of what the problems are.
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  Speaker 1: We're trying to increase your literacy around mental health issues.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not just some scary topic that we don't
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about or we don't talk about correctly.
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  Speaker 1: But more importantly, what are the culturally appropriate, geographic, accessible
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  Speaker 1: and affordable sometimes no costs tools, tips and resources that
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  Speaker 1: can help somebody or a family caregiver when crisis strikes.
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  Speaker 1: What we hope that's going to look like, Alex is
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  Speaker 1: start moving us out of the crisis management business and
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  Speaker 1: being in the everyday whole health business.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is this is very intriguing. Now, the the
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  Speaker 2: the all these different community out you know, members and
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  Speaker 2: all that, and especially the psychiatrists. What's their approach like,
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  Speaker 2: how do they approach it? I feel like they're not
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  Speaker 2: the tough guy, they're the more softer, gentler approach. And
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  Speaker 2: does that work almost all the time? Do you find.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's no one size fits off for any health situation,
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  Speaker 1: and mental health is no different. And so I have
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  Speaker 1: been on the ground in the Bronx in Flint, in Alexandria,
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  Speaker 1: in Memphis and actually seeing how our doctors working with
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  Speaker 1: faith leaders actually take that trust and start translating it
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  Speaker 1: into some meaningful help. Now, mental health issues are a spectrum,
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  Speaker 1: Alex and your audience should appreciate that. So you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have some good days, you're gonna have some bad days,
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  Speaker 1: and you're gonna have a lot of blow days. And
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  Speaker 1: how do we navigate the yellow, the red, and the green.
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  Speaker 1: The way we do it is to try to break
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  Speaker 1: it down into our Notice Talk Act framework. This is
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  Speaker 1: a clinician supported but non clinician implemented framework that I
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  Speaker 1: call the stop, drop and Roll of mental health. So
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to become an expert in mental health
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  Speaker 1: in order to notice signs and symptoms of distress. In
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  Speaker 1: another you don't have to be a doctor to understand
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  Speaker 1: how to be a better active listener. So you can
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  Speaker 1: talk about a mental health concern that creates an invitation
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  Speaker 1: to take the first step to that bridge. And then
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  Speaker 1: most again, most importantly, a lot of times cost and
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  Speaker 1: awareness of where the locations of help are. We've already
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  Speaker 1: done a heat map already in the Bronx through our
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  Speaker 1: partners with Elevate Health there, and I would hazard to
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  Speaker 1: guess based on the last time I was in the Bronx,
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  Speaker 1: we probably rode by a walk by four or five
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  Speaker 1: clinics on the way to Manner of Life, on the
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  Speaker 1: way to Bronx Bethany, on the way to uc JC
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  Speaker 1: United Church of Jesus Christ, we probably walked by some
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  Speaker 1: of these very same facilities that can provide help, but
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  Speaker 1: people don't know what the building is or they're afraid
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  Speaker 1: to go in either because of their concern about mental
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  Speaker 1: health or because they're concerned about cost and they don't
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  Speaker 1: think they can afford it. We try to explain these
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  Speaker 1: things in a better way in English and in Spanish.
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  Speaker 1: When you're at those super sites in.
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  Speaker 2: The role, I want to ask you, I want to
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  Speaker 2: ask you the realest the difference between what we see
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  Speaker 2: and perceive is mental health issues, like someone randomly screaming
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  Speaker 2: a pensation or whatever. Like that 's the invisible mental
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  Speaker 2: health issues. I mean, there's a real difference there. And
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  Speaker 2: how do you how do you work with both? And
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  Speaker 2: what should we and what should the public look out for? Like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we see the outside, but what warning signs
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  Speaker 2: should we say, Hey, this person might have a mental
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  Speaker 2: health thing, we should get them help, Like how can
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  Speaker 2: we find that if it's not right in front of
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  Speaker 2: our face?
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  Speaker 1: So the the easiest way to do that is to
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  Speaker 1: try to get those folks to one of our supersites. Again,
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  Speaker 1: that's Manner of Life Ministries Bethany or the UCJC community.
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  Speaker 1: But if you go to our website, Alex again, we're
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  Speaker 1: trying to demystify and destigmatize some of these issues. There's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of learning at APAF dot org. Slash faith,
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  Speaker 1: and I think if you go to the website on
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  Speaker 1: or off your handheld device, you can do it if
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  Speaker 1: a person really looks like they're in crisis. However, the
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  Speaker 1: easiest thing to do, particularly if you don't want to
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  Speaker 1: personally intervene, is to just call it text nine eight eight.
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  Speaker 1: The nine eight eight National Crisis Helpline actually connects you
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  Speaker 1: to a real person who's in community. So if you
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  Speaker 1: call nine eight eight right now about a situation, the
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  Speaker 1: person who you're going to be connected with is actually
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  Speaker 1: going to be a New Yorker.
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  Speaker 2: I want to ask you about the APA and the
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  Speaker 2: APA Foundation and how it helps, you know, suicide rates reduce.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that that's part of this, but I
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  Speaker 2: feel like it can help the intervention. The work you
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  Speaker 2: guys are doing are helping people save lives.
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  Speaker 1: Really right, transform and save lives is absolutely correct. We
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  Speaker 1: are working with, among others, the American Foundation for Suicide
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  Speaker 1: Prevention in these programs, and so as a convener, we're
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  Speaker 1: trying to bring the resources to bear under the House
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  Speaker 1: of Worship so people don't have to have the scattershot approach.
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  Speaker 1: And while we don't have numbers on persons who've been saved.
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  Speaker 1: I am aware of at least one real time story
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  Speaker 1: last week where a person came to one of our
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  Speaker 1: super sites and they mentioned that they had been thinking
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  Speaker 1: about self harm, and over about a sixteen hour period,
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  Speaker 1: we were able to get that person some help. If
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  Speaker 1: we had not been there, I don't know whether or
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  Speaker 1: not they would have thought there was a safe place
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  Speaker 1: to reach out to bear their soul and try to
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  Speaker 1: get that help. So thank god we were there, but
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  Speaker 1: more importantly, thank god that the mother could any health
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  Speaker 1: foundation made it possible for us to be here, and
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  Speaker 1: that Elevate Health and our supersite partner were on the
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  Speaker 1: spot to provide the resources in real time.
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  Speaker 2: I really like that you're in the underserved communities because
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  Speaker 2: obviously those communities also may not be able to afford healthcare.
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  Speaker 2: So do you guys coming up with a free approach,
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  Speaker 2: a least expensive approach, because obviously the healthcare world is
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  Speaker 2: challenging as is, how do you guys differentiate it and
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  Speaker 2: make sure these people and people around the city get
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  Speaker 2: the help they need.
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  Speaker 1: The Health and Healing Collaborative that the APA Foundation run
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  Speaker 1: is a free resource. It comes to patients and family
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  Speaker 1: caregivers at no cost. And that is because the Mother
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  Speaker 1: Cabrini Health Foundation, which is based in New York, has
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  Speaker 1: provided the funding for us to provide these services. More
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  Speaker 1: importantly than that, though, because of the heat map that
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  Speaker 1: our team has put together, they actually can tell you
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  Speaker 1: if you come to one of those intakes scenarios, whether
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  Speaker 1: that's at a super site or one of our healing circles,
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  Speaker 1: where is the heat map? Tell you resources are that
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  Speaker 1: are free, where are the resources that are low cost?
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  Speaker 1: And if you have more resources, where can I go
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  Speaker 1: and get immediate help? And cost is no object. So
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  Speaker 1: all of that information is available because again not one
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  Speaker 1: size fits all approach, but it is like stop, drop
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  Speaker 1: and roll. The more we know, the more we're going
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  Speaker 1: to be able to get a better tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: This foundation is very interesting because obviously psychiatrists and those
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  Speaker 2: of the medical fields face burnout. So how do you
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  Speaker 2: guys help support the psychiatrists that are going into the
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  Speaker 2: battlefields if you will, and helping all these people.
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  Speaker 1: One of the programs that the foundation run is called
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  Speaker 1: the Center for Workplace Mental Health, and we have a
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  Speaker 1: program called Frontline and Connect that directly addresses clinician burnout.
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  Speaker 1: Particularly since the pandemic. Again, our framework around burnout, like
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  Speaker 1: everything else, comes under the umbrella of our Notice Talk
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  Speaker 1: Act framework. Obviously, the steps to employ for clinician burnout
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  Speaker 1: are different than they might be for somebody who's struggling
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  Speaker 1: with a mental health concern outside the profession. But we
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  Speaker 1: are the reason why we have our Vanguard training program
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  Speaker 1: is because where we see the most need, particularly on
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  Speaker 1: the burnout spectrum, seems to be medical students and early
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  Speaker 1: career psychiatrists. They've gotten in, they know that they want
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  Speaker 1: to help save lives, but they didn't realize how burdensome
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  Speaker 1: sometimes the practice of medicine would be, and so we
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  Speaker 1: are providing them through our Frontline connect platform, Notice Talk
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  Speaker 1: Act resources that are appropriate for a doctor. Amen to that?
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  Speaker 2: All right, I'm sure you're going to agree with this.
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  Speaker 2: There are some where people just want to video someone
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  Speaker 2: out there who looks troubled, and I'm sure you're like,
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  Speaker 2: put the video away and help people, right. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like we got to stare away from like
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  Speaker 2: videoing all these people and just saying, hey, you need help,
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  Speaker 2: let me get you the right resource.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not judging anybody, but I'm aware of the scenario
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  Speaker 1: you described, and it would be easier to call or
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  Speaker 1: text nine eight eight in those situations than to make
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  Speaker 1: light of those situations by thinking that a picture or
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  Speaker 1: a video alone is going to provide some help. Because
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  Speaker 1: sometimes people are in crisis, we have no idea why,
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  Speaker 1: and taking a video or a screenshot of them isn't
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  Speaker 1: getting them any closer to care. Nine eight eight. It
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  Speaker 1: took years to put nine eight eight together. It would
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  Speaker 1: be a shame to have that opportunity and not use
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  Speaker 1: it again. Because of the Mother Cabrini Health Foundation, we've
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  Speaker 1: been able to bring these additional resources on top of
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  Speaker 1: nine eight eight to pilot in the Bronx with plans
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  Speaker 1: to expand beyond the rocks. But the reality of it is,
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  Speaker 1: if people don't use the resource, as you mentioned at
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  Speaker 1: the outset, it becomes harder to get the help they need.
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  Speaker 1: But you can still go to APAAF dot org, APAF
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  Speaker 1: dot org, slash faith and it puts you on the
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  Speaker 1: first step to the bridge to a better tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I don't know politics is involved, but obviously you
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  Speaker 2: might need some kind of help from that side. So
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  Speaker 2: and you know everything out I might disroom him on
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  Speaker 2: Donnie and he's very big on mental health. Do you
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  Speaker 2: find support from the inmittration. Are you looking for support
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  Speaker 2: for the inmitistration on this or are you privately mainasure
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  Speaker 2: there's a private entity here.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the good news is we have already started working
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  Speaker 1: with the Mayor's Office of Public Engagement and the New
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  Speaker 1: York State Division of Human Rights and the New York
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  Speaker 1: State Office of Mental Health on this. So while it
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  Speaker 1: is a private enterprise through a nonprofit to bring the
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  Speaker 1: Health and Healing Collaborative to New York, we are bringing
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  Speaker 1: all of the resources that are available. And one of
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  Speaker 1: the things we learned since we started this pilot about
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  Speaker 1: six seven months ago, eighty percent of the patients that
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  Speaker 1: are being cared for by the New York Office and
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  Speaker 1: Mental Health suffer from a serious mental illness. So we're
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  Speaker 1: already talking about the same communities. And what we're trying
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  Speaker 1: to do is bring together alex what we refer to
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  Speaker 1: as silos of excellence because one of the reasons why
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  Speaker 1: you think, and you might be true, that we're not
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  Speaker 1: as effective when we try these programs in the past,
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  Speaker 1: because we haven't acknowledged that we built silos. We haven't
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  Speaker 1: acknowledged that sometimes those silos are operating at the highest level,
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  Speaker 1: but then when they reach a fork in the road
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  Speaker 1: or a dead end, they don't know how to do
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  Speaker 1: a soft pass or a warm handoff to another program
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  Speaker 1: or affiliate. We're trying to be that hub through the
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  Speaker 1: Health and Healing Collaborative, so that if it's a resource
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  Speaker 1: that you need that helps a patient or a family caregiver,
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  Speaker 1: we can provide that honor offline in English and in Spanish.
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  Speaker 2: All right, one more thing, because he's gotten a lot
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  Speaker 2: of heat about this encampment, whether to stop it or not.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, are guys involved, but being sure those ten cities,
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  Speaker 2: if you will, can come down that those people can
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  Speaker 2: get the right help. Are you being asked to help
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  Speaker 2: in those regards.
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  Speaker 1: We have not been asked to help, so I won't
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  Speaker 1: speak to it. Obviously, we're aware of it. But New
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  Speaker 1: York made Housing First a model for the nation, and
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  Speaker 1: we know that the Office of Mental Health and many
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  Speaker 1: others were behind that movement. So we pray and hope
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  Speaker 1: that there'll be a equitable resolution to that situation. But no,
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  Speaker 1: the APA and the APA Foundation have not been asked
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  Speaker 1: to help.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm so appreciative this update because we do want
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  Speaker 2: to help the mental health in the city. And you
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  Speaker 2: know we always have these awareness months. This is the
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  Speaker 2: AD month, but there is mental health Awareness Month I
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  Speaker 2: believe in March, but it never ends. The awareness cannot end.
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  Speaker 2: And I always stress that we have to continue with
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  Speaker 2: the conversation twelve months of the year, not just one
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  Speaker 2: month of the year.
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  Speaker 1: Every time we see here or tell a story about
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  Speaker 1: the human condition, we're talking about a mental health journey.
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  Speaker 1: And I think if we keep that in mind, it
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  Speaker 1: will allow us to fully appreciate there is no health
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  Speaker 1: without mental health and if we need help, there's no
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  Speaker 1: harm and there's no sin and asking for it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate you taking the time here at one
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  Speaker 2: look at alex Media to kick off ADA week to
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  Speaker 2: discuss this program. And I really want to see how
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  Speaker 2: this grows. And I love that back on six months
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  Speaker 2: from now and say hey, how is the program going.
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  Speaker 2: I love to get an update from you.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: We would love to give you an annual report and
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: then talk to you a little bit about how year
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  Speaker 1: two is going to shake out. But I know that
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  Speaker 1: we wouldn't have the ability to get this word out
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  Speaker 1: without folks like you Alex. So We just want to
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  Speaker 1: thank you for making the time and the space so
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  Speaker 1: that we could get some more people from help.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what yared about smashing stigmas, I'm about
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: that here at the podcast. So thank you for highlighting
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: that you guys are trying to smash stigmas right alongside
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  Speaker 2: all of us here in the adaptive community.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, sir.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: That was Rol Andrews Junior, the executive director of the
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: American Psychiatric Association Foundation, here at one leg of alex
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  Speaker 2: Media to kick off eighty eight thirty six week Thanks
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  Speaker 2: so much, sir for joining us today. ROO.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. God bless you, brother, God bless you