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A-LIE-ances: RHOC Recap with Alexis Bellino · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 2: I'm an executive.
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  Speaker 1: Producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from
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  Speaker 1: the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation,
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  Speaker 1: The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode
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  Speaker 1: we recap reality television from the Real Housewives franchise to
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  Speaker 1: The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests,
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  Speaker 1: whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, rain Drops, on today's episode Reality with the King,
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  Speaker 3: it is keet and Afraid Dating Naked or Naked Wasted
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  Speaker 3: Part two. So we're going to discuss the most recent
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  Speaker 3: episode of The.
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  Speaker 2: Real house watch Sports County.
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  Speaker 3: And she's back my friend who just celebrated her. That's
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  Speaker 3: her very party that we got to like at least
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  Speaker 3: get a little tea about that.
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  Speaker 2: But give it up.
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  Speaker 3: And before I introduce her, I want to thank the
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  Speaker 3: rain Drops for embracing her. The feedback has been won
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  Speaker 3: the pole. I've been getting stopped in the street saying like,
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  Speaker 3: we we like your recaps with her, like keep it going.
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  Speaker 2: So as long as she says yes, I'm gonna keep
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  Speaker 2: doing it.
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  Speaker 3: But give it up with my friend the beautiful Alexis Bilino.
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  Speaker 4: Hi, everybody, Oh my gosh, that was so steet. I
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  Speaker 4: didn't know people are stopping you on the screen. There
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  Speaker 4: was probably one person. Okay, no, it was like like
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  Speaker 4: five by five.
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  Speaker 3: We're like no, it's just like, hey, we we like
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  Speaker 3: our recaps of Alecxuis. It's pretty fun and it's interesting
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  Speaker 3: because I thank god, you know, recomments and thank god
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  Speaker 3: I get not on Twitter. But I will say the
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  Speaker 3: feedback on Twitter has also been fabulous. So my mistake.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't the Bachelor. Red Party was a bridal shower
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  Speaker 3: that you recently celebrated. So how was that for you,
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  Speaker 3: baby doll?
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  Speaker 5: It's good. It was. I mean, it wasn't good. It
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  Speaker 5: was amazing.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm doing everything unorthodox and very untraditional in this wedding,
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  Speaker 4: so that just shows you I wanted to put jewelry
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  Speaker 4: on my girls instead of have some cavias, So.
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  Speaker 5: There you go.
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  Speaker 4: But I was they had a blast. It was It
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  Speaker 4: was It was just unique because we all get.
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  Speaker 5: To walk around. Of course there was orders and.
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  Speaker 4: Such, but it was like it's just you're just talking,
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  Speaker 4: you know, getting pierced, getting a piece of permanent jewelry,
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  Speaker 4: getting a necklace.
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  Speaker 5: It's just it was really cool.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So let's say you are celebrating a milestone and this
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  Speaker 3: season of Orange County has had a good season. But
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  Speaker 3: before we recapped episode, I want to read you something
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  Speaker 3: because you know, I'm pretty active on Twitter. I don't
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  Speaker 3: want you to be though, because sometimes people can just
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  Speaker 3: be mean for no reason.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't mean to me. So I don't give a shit.
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  Speaker 4: I have Twitter and I have a lot of followers,
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  Speaker 4: but I don't I don't have enough time in the day.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like right now to get on it, and
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  Speaker 4: I should. I guess now that you're telling me this,
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  Speaker 4: So I'm getting beat up up. I mean, you can't
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  Speaker 4: get more beat up than on Instagram or at the
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  Speaker 4: turn off comments Carlos. So I'm overally Oh well, look,
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  Speaker 4: I like to get props due.
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  Speaker 3: So this tweet is from Ksey, who's Twitter handle is
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  Speaker 3: at k Baby one two three four.
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  Speaker 2: He said, And I'm going to show you the proof Alexis.
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  Speaker 3: He said, we was robbed of Bretchant and alexis reuniting
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  Speaker 3: this season. Alexis deserve to come back. I don't give
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  Speaker 3: a fuck our hoc Bravo bumbled with this line, and
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  Speaker 3: the comments are in support of this, and I just
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  Speaker 3: wanted you to see them proved because I'm not a.
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  Speaker 2: Liar liar tady on fire, so I wanted you to
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  Speaker 2: see it.
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  Speaker 6: How do you.
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  Speaker 3: Feel that there has been this sort of like outpour
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  Speaker 3: of support for people wanting you to return this season
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  Speaker 3: now that we're like six episodes in.
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  Speaker 4: I kind of feel like maybe people are seeing that
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't enough shown last season. There was so much
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  Speaker 4: shown of what there was nothing. How I should say
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  Speaker 4: it is things were not shown that should have been shown,
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  Speaker 4: and it was just so focused laser focused on the
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  Speaker 4: lawsuit and other things that you know, I did get
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  Speaker 4: a little bit of a cheat and that I was
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  Speaker 4: cheated a little bit. However, it feels good, but I'm
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  Speaker 4: having more fun just recapping it all with you.
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  Speaker 5: High five all that.
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  Speaker 3: So listen, I'm just happy to be doing this with you.
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  Speaker 3: So let's get right into it. You were crazy busy
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  Speaker 3: last weekend.
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  Speaker 2: I was too. We did not get to recap, but
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  Speaker 2: I feel.
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  Speaker 3: Like this recent episode is sort of like part two
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  Speaker 3: of last week's episode.
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  Speaker 2: So listen, miss thing.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to dive right into this episode and dive
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  Speaker 3: right into it. I know you've seen the clips. We
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  Speaker 3: have a sobby whole episode. Your friend who was at
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  Speaker 3: the Bridle shop, er Tamra Judge, my girl. She left
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  Speaker 3: the cast trip in New Orleans because Tamra Judge told
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  Speaker 3: Gretchen and Shannon that she was told by journalists that
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  Speaker 3: Katie told Monique that Gretchen told her listen to game
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  Speaker 3: a tele phone.
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  Speaker 2: That Gretchen told her.
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  Speaker 3: That on the night have Maked It Wasted exactly like
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  Speaker 3: follow follow followed.
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  Speaker 4: Carloss, we need a roadmap to show all of our
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  Speaker 4: our rain drops exactly. Here's what we're talking about with
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  Speaker 4: the spider websing going like you got it, though you've
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  Speaker 4: got it?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm trying, sister, okay, so okay follow long rain drops.
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  Speaker 3: Tamera was told by bloggers slash journalists that Katie told
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  Speaker 3: Key Key Monique a radio and the host a Dernda Medley,
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  Speaker 3: that Gretchen told Katie that on the night of Maked
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  Speaker 3: Wasted back in two thousand and eight, that she felt
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  Speaker 3: that camera rooted her. Gretchen busically was upset, denied it,
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  Speaker 3: hubbed Tamra, and then all of a sudden said, I
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  Speaker 3: I think I believe Katie that Katie didn't do it.
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  Speaker 3: The episode begins with Gina saying, look, I told Katie
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  Speaker 3: that I believe her, But why don't you just call
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  Speaker 3: Kikim Monique? And then before I get to the rest
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  Speaker 3: of the episode, what do you think about all of this?
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  Speaker 3: You know these girls more than I do. Does Alexis
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  Speaker 3: Belino believe that Gretchen did tell Katie that she felt
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  Speaker 3: Tamera rooped her in two thousand and eight, on the
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  Speaker 3: night of the Naked Wasted.
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  Speaker 4: Episode one million percent after watching the whole episode, because
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  Speaker 4: at first you kind of go, okay, well is little
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  Speaker 4: rumor or whatever. By the end of the episode, did
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  Speaker 4: everybody see what I saw?
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  Speaker 2: It's like both.
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  Speaker 4: Katie and Gretchen got caught lying and saying one thing
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  Speaker 4: and then saying the other. And it's like if everybody
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  Speaker 4: just fusses up at the beginning and I don't know
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  Speaker 4: what the again, another stupid life all. First of all, Carlos,
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  Speaker 4: can I ask the most important question ever? Why are
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  Speaker 4: we rehashing something that happened twelve frickey years ago. It
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  Speaker 4: wasn't an affair with a husband. It was a stupid,
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  Speaker 4: little drinking fest words. I don't think Tama was correct
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  Speaker 4: and using those that verbiage and you know, making a
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  Speaker 4: joke about that.
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  Speaker 5: However, twelve years ago, Tamor's grown she's grown up a
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  Speaker 5: little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, what hasn't grown up is the fact that we're
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  Speaker 4: immature enough to still be bringing up these things. And
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  Speaker 4: by the way, Carlos, the one thing I want every
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  Speaker 4: viewer to think about is this the only way Katie
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  Speaker 4: would even know about naked wasted or any kind of
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  Speaker 4: a roofie rumor would be?
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  Speaker 5: How would be?
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  Speaker 3: How?
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  Speaker 5: How could it even be out there?
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  Speaker 4: And for Gretchen to get defensive or Forgretchen to say no,
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  Speaker 4: but then say yes? And the limo ride back with
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  Speaker 4: with to Tamar and who was in the car with
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  Speaker 4: them Tamar and Heather?
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  Speaker 5: Was it Tamra, Heather and Gretchen.
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  Speaker 4: When Gretchen said Gretchen was in the backseat and goes,
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  Speaker 4: I did ask, and then in her interview with what
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  Speaker 4: was that look? By the way, she I felt like
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  Speaker 4: it was a Stepford Wives cartoon.
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  Speaker 5: However, she's beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: We all know she's beautiful, but come on, now, we
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  Speaker 4: don't need a costume party on the confessional. However, she
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  Speaker 4: should never have said in the back of the car,
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  Speaker 4: yeah I went, and then in her confessional, go I
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  Speaker 4: remember went.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, okay, was it.
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  Speaker 4: Alcohol, like she had a cocktail so then she was
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  Speaker 4: slippery mouth? Or is it just lying and the girls
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  Speaker 4: don't remember their lies? What do you think about that?
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  Speaker 4: Because it baffles me. I'm like, I'm shocked at how
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  Speaker 4: the lives are just like coming around and around and
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  Speaker 4: no one's learning from their mistake. It's like, hello, there's
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  Speaker 4: cameras there. People, there's cameras. You're gonna get caught in
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  Speaker 4: your life.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like, hello, this This is what I've been
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  Speaker 3: saying since day one.
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  Speaker 2: And the reason why I love doing.
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  Speaker 3: Recap with you is because I am a producer who
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  Speaker 3: has done many episodes of housewives. You have been a
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  Speaker 3: housewife for so many years, and this is your world
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  Speaker 3: for sure. You and I both said from day one, like, look,
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  Speaker 3: there's something about what Katie is saying. You defended her
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  Speaker 3: because she's her friend. You're like, look, I know, Katie,
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  Speaker 3: I have to admit this happened, but I want to
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  Speaker 3: give her some grapes. Katie then said, fuck you, Alexis
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  Speaker 3: I think you're a liar, and you're like, okay, girl.
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  Speaker 3: I tried to at least give you some grapes. So
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  Speaker 3: let's have a real conversation. I said from day one,
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  Speaker 3: I think Katie's a liar, liar pants on fire. The
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  Speaker 3: social media audience hats Camera. I'll say this again, Katie
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  Speaker 3: Janella does not have fans. She has Tamra haters. If
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  Speaker 3: Camra would have done one percent of what they're accusing Katie,
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  Speaker 3: Camera would get read on social media. Katie gets offended
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  Speaker 3: because they just hate Camra. Sorry, guys, it is what
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  Speaker 3: it is. Furthermore, I said, last week, Alexis, when Katie
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  Speaker 3: walked back in that room after talking to Matt and
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  Speaker 3: she said, oh my god, what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: I said, Katie.
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  Speaker 3: Read the script that Matt wrote as if he was
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  Speaker 3: Michael pat King the creator up and just like that,
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  Speaker 3: it gave a Charlotte performance. Going back telling Miranda Kerry
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  Speaker 3: Brawshaw what happened, Katie was acting, I said too.
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  Speaker 2: And I love Gretchen, but one thing about my podcast,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna call things out like I see it. I
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  Speaker 2: can still love you. I love Gretchen.
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  Speaker 3: I think this is a great housewife I said, Gretchen
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  Speaker 3: changed her tune once she called Slade. Slade said, I'll
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  Speaker 3: fix this. I'm gonna call Matt. I call, I said
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  Speaker 3: this last week, Ale like this, and I said that
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  Speaker 3: they both they both conspired to tell this story only
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  Speaker 3: for this episode for Katie to say, look, I gotta
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  Speaker 3: be honest. Slay called Matt, Slade said, we gotta fix this.
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  Speaker 3: Throw Tamera under the bus. And we conspired with each
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  Speaker 3: other to tell this story. And this is the problem
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to these reality shows. I agree with you.
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  Speaker 3: We talked about something that happened in two thousand and eight.
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  Speaker 3: I don't give a shit, right, I love Gretchen. Gretchen,
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  Speaker 3: I love you down boots. I believe Gretchen did tell
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  Speaker 3: Katie the story.
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  Speaker 5: So first of all, let me go back to the whole.
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  Speaker 4: Like, the reason I was giving Katie so much accolades
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  Speaker 4: and just so much support on our first couple podcasts
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  Speaker 4: that we've done rehashing the show is because I had
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  Speaker 4: not yet been burned by Katie and lied about about
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  Speaker 4: by Katie. So the problem is now, once I've seen
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  Speaker 4: the true colors the other women are saying, and now
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  Speaker 4: you go back and recount everything everyone's saying, you have
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  Speaker 4: all the evidence of all of her lives that keep
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  Speaker 4: And the problem is, Carlos, the number one problem. Everything
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  Speaker 4: you said is correct, by the way, but the number
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  Speaker 4: one problem.
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  Speaker 5: Is Katie admitted that.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, after saying no, none of that happened. Remember they
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  Speaker 4: were at the first dinner. Okay, keep got it. It's
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  Speaker 4: the cobweb again. You got it at the first dinner.
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  Speaker 4: Katie goes that never happened.
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  Speaker 5: No, that never happened.
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  Speaker 4: Then she's talking to that or then she admits that
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  Speaker 4: Gretchen did tell the story when they're at mass. Then
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  Speaker 4: she's on the count with Matt and asks Matt guesh
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  Speaker 4: the true, really believing one that actually brings the truth
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  Speaker 4: to the forefront is of Matt. Because then Katie goes, so, Matt,
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  Speaker 4: do you do you remember when Slade said this? And
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  Speaker 4: he's like, oh yeah, and then Katie asks another question.
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  Speaker 4: He goes, well, you're not wrong. You you're lying about
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  Speaker 4: hearing that. So it's all coming back to point the
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  Speaker 4: evidence that the story was told at dinner. So that's
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  Speaker 4: how Katie got the truth of or what Gretchen was
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  Speaker 4: putting out there. And then she goes and has a
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  Speaker 4: big mouth obviously and said something to Katy Keky Monique
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  Speaker 4: just like she shows me the audio that she then
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  Speaker 4: wants to take back and said she didn't show me. Hello,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie about it, nor would I know
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  Speaker 4: everything that was set on that phone call if you
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  Speaker 4: hadn't let me listen to the whole minute and a
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  Speaker 4: half phone call, okay.
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  Speaker 5: Or work memo. So all of us just like, I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: you know what.
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  Speaker 4: The other funny thing is, Katie literally just got a
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  Speaker 4: taste of her own medicine. Because she's like, she's like
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  Speaker 4: feeling that about Gretchen and Katie did the same thing
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  Speaker 4: to me. She's like, well, Gretchen and Jen aren't telling
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  Speaker 4: the truth. Why aren't they discussing up to it? We
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  Speaker 4: were all at that dinner. Well, girlfriend, you were at
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  Speaker 4: the freaking lunch, were you? So you show you let
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  Speaker 4: me listen to the voice memo, So you're getting to
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  Speaker 4: taste your own medicine, because that's what karma does. It
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  Speaker 4: brings it right back around. But the whole thing is
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  Speaker 4: so frustrating because it's like, again, a stupid rumor. It's
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  Speaker 4: not like you're trying to protect your kids. Because you
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  Speaker 4: just had an affair with another.
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  Speaker 5: Man or woman stupid?
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  Speaker 4: Why about naked wasted and whether or not Gretchen claimed
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  Speaker 4: Tamra rupeter or went to the hospital.
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  Speaker 5: Who cares?
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  Speaker 4: You're alive, you're kicking, you look great, You're move on,
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  Speaker 4: You've got a kid.
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  Speaker 5: Now, why are we talking about that?
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  Speaker 4: And why is Katie lying at the very beginning about
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  Speaker 4: going to Peki Monique?
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  Speaker 5: Because the other.
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  Speaker 4: Point, Carlos, that everyone needs to consider Kiki Monique is
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  Speaker 4: not about to worry about this little Orange County rumor
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  Speaker 4: that's going around Orange County about this.
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  Speaker 5: This is the least thing.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, it's like killing an aunt in her house
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  Speaker 4: for her, She's like, oh there's an aunt, squash. She
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  Speaker 4: does not care about this. Why is she gonna lie
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  Speaker 4: and try to get in the middle all of this?
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  Speaker 4: And she's got way too much going on, So Anne,
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  Speaker 4: she wouldn't even have any idea of this if Katie
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  Speaker 4: had not gone to her and said something.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, now listen, I feel your frustration, Alexis, and
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  Speaker 3: I can tell how.
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  Speaker 2: Frustrated you are. And I think us and the audience.
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  Speaker 3: We're sort of like, look, when we watch these shows,
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  Speaker 3: we want obviously, like you said, we want the real,
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  Speaker 3: we want the funny, but we also want like some
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  Speaker 3: real life stuff that happens.
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  Speaker 2: I have always said this on my podcast that I
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  Speaker 2: got read.
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  Speaker 3: For, and I don't give a shit because I don't
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  Speaker 3: do things for the popular for the popular opinion. There's
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  Speaker 3: alliances on these shows, and it's evident that there's an
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  Speaker 3: alliance between Gretchen.
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  Speaker 2: Gin and Katie and I'm going to I'm want to
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  Speaker 2: take you back a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: During towards the end of last season airing Okay, there's
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  Speaker 3: a photo of Katie, Gretchen and Jen hanging out having
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  Speaker 3: dinner and it could be the ninal question at my
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  Speaker 3: Masshviille's and New per Beach and it was sort of
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  Speaker 3: and it was sort of like introducing to the audience
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  Speaker 3: the possibility of Gretchen coming back to the show because
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  Speaker 3: they wanted to. They want thank you Alexis. They wanted
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  Speaker 3: to showcase that, you know, we're friends in real life.
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  Speaker 3: Let's bring our friend back. It bothers me and I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna ask listen, you don't have to answer this because
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to put you on the spot, but
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  Speaker 3: I have to speak my truth. It bothers me that
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  Speaker 3: when you came on the show, you came on the
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  Speaker 3: show with something real.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't like.
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  Speaker 3: You and John were dating. To piss off Shannon. You
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  Speaker 3: guys are literally getting married soon. You just celebrated your
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  Speaker 3: idol shower, and the audience had had a bad reaction
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  Speaker 3: to like Lee Shannon alone, right, which is fine, you
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  Speaker 3: have your fans. What bothers me is this, when we
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  Speaker 3: get something that's real and organic, you guys shun it.
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  Speaker 3: When we get something that is obviously lies in faith,
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  Speaker 3: you guys sort of. You guys defend the liar, and
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  Speaker 3: I don't understand why some of you people gave a
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  Speaker 3: less of a hard time for living out her reality,
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: but you celebrate Katie who has been proven week after
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: week to be a liar. She denied that she told Gretchen,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: I mean the blogger, this only for the next fucking
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: episode for her to say, okay, fine, I said it. Listen,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: you don't have to answer it, and that's fine. It
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: infuriates me that this is going on.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Does it bother you.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: A since that Reality TV is no longer about the
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: reality anymore?
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: Wow, I mean, it's so much emotion that just came
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: through me and that on that whole like everything you
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: just said.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: But I guess I think I've gotten such thick skin
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: after how bad I was. I it was like I murdered.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: Somebody's child last year, you know, after dating somebody that
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: that you know, broke up with the other woman a
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: year and a half before. So I mean, I I
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: don't know. And and by the way, John and I
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: did try to fight it, and obviously it didn't work.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: Here we are walking down the aisle soon, but but.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: It doesn't infuriate me because I feel like and this
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: is when our very first podcast, Carlos, I told you
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: I said, I missed the realut the reel of the show.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: But I get that the viewers like the fate of it,
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: or like the more. Uh, you know, these women would
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: not act like this at a lunch, if they were
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: at their lunch with their neighbor next door. They act
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: like this because there is a camera. We do have to,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: you know, create good TV. And we still are trying
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: to be authentic, but we're just missing some of And
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: I wish that the audience last year would have given
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: me a chance to actually, you know, because it hadn't been
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: so hated. There's a chance I might have been brought
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: back for them to actually see the wedding planning, the
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: true love between John and I, like my real life,
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: and not just me being torn down for me having
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: the boyfriend who's doing a woman for money. She is owed,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: you know, he is owed. I mean, so there was
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: a lot to that. But no, I'm not infuriated. I
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: just wish that people would put on their really like
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: they're real thinking caps and go, huh, this hasn't just
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: happened once with Katie. That's the other part to this
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: is why is Katie not learning from that to where
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: it happened last season too, where she'd get caught in
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: a line and she'd go, oh.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Yes, I did do that.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: It's like, what is what is it in your mind
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: where you don't just own up to it at the
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: very beginning? What is it that I mean, you keep
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: You're not learning don't touch the hot stove. You're still
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: doing it over and over and over. Because here we
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: are on you know, the next season, and she's still
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: doing it. So is it just is it a massive
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: blip in her brain that she can't go, I'm gonna
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: get caught with this, I'm gonna someone's gonna find out
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: because the truth is gonna come out. Just like Gina
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: said and her professional the truth will be found out. Well,
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: just like last year, the truth does get found out.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: So mm hmm, yeah, I like I want Katie to grow.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: I want Katie to grow.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: I want Katie to go. I'll listen, I think, and
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: listen and listen. I also gave Katie some grace and listen.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I would love to have a conversation with Katie because
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: I really want to.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: I want to help her understand.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: The wrong doing that she has done and and find
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: a way to really, like you said, alexis to sort
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: of like dig deep in terms of her psyche for
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: why she's doing it. The reason why I said I
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: want Katie to go is because, and listen, I'm not
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: saying forever. I think Katie needs needs to go at
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: least for a season or two, because for me, for me,
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: for me, it's not fair to the other women who
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: are trying their best.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: To just do their job.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: You are right, let's have a real conversation. When you
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: are on reality television, there is an extra level of
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: unk that you give to the show, right because you're
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: you're on camera, but when you befriend bloggers and when
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: you are.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: When you're constantly caught lying.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: I now among Gina's side when she sent an interview
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: that if Katie comes back next season, she really has
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: to consider her play on the show, because I don't
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: want anybody in my real life, in my real circle
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: who has a habit of just lying all of the time.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: And I don't think it's fair that any of these
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: women have to be subjected to sitting out a dinner
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: table trying to be real and honest with people.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: And you don't know what this woman Katie is capable of.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: If she has to take that information before the season
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: is even airing and talks to a blogger, I think Katie.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: I think Katie needs to be.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Reprimanded for this life of a housewife.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: Word maybe therapy, because honestly, like something there is something
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: amiss that you don't learn a means Truly. I'm not
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: trying to bag on Katie because I do think she
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: has Like I've said about her before, I think she
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: has a big heart. I think she's a good person.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: I think she's funny. I love Matt think I think
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: they're a cute couple. I just think that if you
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: haven't learned, because like I think, if she had done
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: that one time and then then very remorseful, the women
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: would have been able to have the conflict resolution, move
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: past it go on.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: That's the phases of the show, I think, when it
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: keeps happening, and now we've had two seasons of evidence
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: of it where she herself not just evidence of the
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: footage but of the background of everything, but the footage
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: of her actually saying, oh, I did actually do that,
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: and now it happened to begin this episode. How many
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: more times is it going to.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: Happen this episode or this season?
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but it's like, if you don't learn,
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: then that is where I agree with the other women.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: It's like, why would you want to You can't trust
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: anything she's saying.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: Because it's going to happen.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: She's going to do it again, and like Heather, oh
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Heather said at that dinner, she goes, Katie, you scare
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: us because what's next?
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: Like what's going to happen next?
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: Because now she's lying about the blogger a keeping Monique,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: and then she's also lying about you know, at first
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: about Gretchen and by the way, we found out why
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: she was lying at first about Gretchen because Ladea called
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Matt called Matt and said, Matt, please tell Katie to lie.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: This is what has to happen where we've got this
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: group together, we're alliances. She needs to lie for Matt
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: or for for Gretchen. Katie felt that at first, and
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: then did it. Knew she was caught, knew she can't
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: get out of it. She got to tell the truth.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: So then she tells the truth, but then no one
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: believes her. No one's gonna believe you now because she's
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: lied about it.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: So no, no, I know, I know.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: It takes my breath away, so i'll I want to
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: also mention this, Katie admitted in her confessionals and rain Drops.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I want you guys to understand what this means.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Okay, Katie in her confessionals which elections can corroborate, you
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: sometimes take your confessionals during the season, or you sometimes
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: take your confessionals after the season has wrapped and the
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: episode of being edited in real time as they're taping
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: the scenes rain drops, we call that beverte. In real
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: time as they're taping the scenes, Katie never admits on
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: camera what Gretchen allegedly did Katie said in her confessionals,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: whether it was Kate during the season or once the
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: season rapped. She said that, Okay, I want you to
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: be very clear, So I'm not giving Katie no props
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: for seeing something in her confessional by herself with the
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: green screen behind her and not in the faces of
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: her lions. Okay, Katie said that Gretchen did say in
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: front of her, Matt and Jen that that night of
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: making wasted, that she went to the hospital and they
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: found drugs in her system, and she doesn't understand why
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Jin isn't corroborating with this story because that's what happened.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: I'm not giving Katie no props for that because you
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: didn't say to the faces of these ladies. But I
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: do want to ask you this. Do you think Jen
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: is protecting Gretchen?
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's really hard to say no to that
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: after watching this episode. I mean, I feel I feel like,
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: like you said you prefaced the beginning of this podcast
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: with me today that that people you know there's alliances
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: on the show that is true. Where it gets dangerous
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: is when your alliance is involved lying because it is
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: the problem is, no matter how deep that alliance is,
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: whether it's this year, next year, twelve years from now,
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: the truth is going to come out. So it's like
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: it's like, you can't form an alliance and go like,
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: let's just say, like everyone knows Tamara and our buddy
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: buddy say, I still call her out on this podcast
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: and say what she should or shouldn't do. By the way,
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: my heart broke that nobody really wrapped around her when
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: she's going through the hardest thing of her life. But
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: yet everyone wraps around anyone else on the cast that
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: gets you know her or whatever. So that was really
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: bus But I also call her out where she needs
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: to be called out.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: However, where was I going with that?
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Now I lost it, So I'm starting to get worried
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: about Tamor.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: But where was I going? I was asking you, do
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: you believe jin is protecting me?
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Okay, So where I was going with that is is
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: that if you lie for it, Like even if Tammar
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: came to me and said, go on next episode or
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: next time we film, we're going to dinner or we're
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: going to play volleyball, let's just say please when they
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: bring us up lie about it and don't say it,
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: and I'm going to go, no, Tamara, I can't do
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: that because it's gonna come all all come out, and
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: then we're both of aos like idiots, like like everyone's
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: looking kind of now and just wait, this is only
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: the beginning.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: I don't even think.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: I think next episode is still gonna have more coming, Carlo,
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: that's what I think. I don't know, But I was
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: right about the kicking thing. There's more footage, there's more
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: proof and and and by the way, why didn't Katie
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: just call keeking right then or text her or DM
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: or or do something and get to the bottom of
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: it right then? That is the best way that you
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: can just squash any lie. You know why she didn't
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: She was lying, Yeah, Kicky, Monique has no reason to
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: lie on this show. Katie has proven it time and
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: time again. She wants to lie constantly because she's got
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: a little marble loose in her head and she needs
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: to go see somebody and talk about why she can't
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: just get the truth out at the beginning. What is
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: muzzling her for the truth?
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Okay, guys, somebody just see me because I'm I'm uplove
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: this on YouTube. Some of you so listen my listeners
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: in your car.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: You can listen to finish, listen to this.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: I implore you to go on my YouTube channel at
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: the Carlos King Underscore to watch this because I'm so adnamated.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I'm uploading this on YouTube. And by the way, Alexis
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: looks smoking hot today. She always does that. She looks
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: the lighting is lighting. Okay, look I am I'm getting
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: jitters as if I took my work. I'll drink because
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I have this. I know it's gonna sound bad, but
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I gotta be honest.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: I have a little bit of disdain for some of
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: the Housewives audience, a little bit of it on social media.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I'll say that much because they don't care about the truth.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: They care about their own alliance to their favorite realities
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: are so so they do they do because when the
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: truth is in front of them, they make excuses for
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: their favorite person that they like in terms of the
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: show instead of being like, you know what, I love you,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: but I can also tell you that you're wrong for this.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: So anyways, I saw that to say Alexis hit the
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: numb a head once again.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: They tell Katie.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: On the spot, hey, if you didn't say it, call
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: this person on the spot. When they asked her, hey
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: is episode one, show us the DM.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: If you're telling the truth, show us the DM. She
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: claimed she had, thank you. She claims she had bad
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: li fi. In this episode, Jen said, if you're.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Telling the truth, called Kiki Monique, Well I'm not doing that,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: and Katie's and Jenny's like, let's call her, and she's
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: like no, and then they flash back to the car
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: where she's like, well, if I call Kiki, she's just
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: gonna lie.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: What what the fuck?
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Okay, first of all, you're gonna call someone a liar
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: who has zero zero history of flying and you have.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: Forty five just from last season to now.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: You're gonna call hr a liar?
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Oh okay, Kiki Mody, you better show up at Katie's
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: doorstep and say, girlfriend, you got problems.
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: Putting my name out there? Like that is getting so
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: much from us. And she really does talk of the
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: room a little hard.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: I know, And I've been I've been on reality Check
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: that's hosted by Kiki Moneik and Derenda Medley, and look,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Kiki is like so sweet.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I'll say this about Kiki, this is the best press.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Of the world, tod me because you are literally the
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: ape housewife on this show. But once again is I
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: just don't understand proof after proof after proof after proof
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: that Katie is a known liar, and I think she's
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: the one who needs to see Tamra psychotherapist because.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I need to get down to the middle of what
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: she's going through.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: But transitioning to Tamra, Look, Tamra is this polar riking
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: figure in real life, She's a fun girl. I think
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Tamar also understands her assignment on the show, and she
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: gives great TV. I felt bad for tam of this episode,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: and not because I know her. It's because I'm honest, right,
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: I'm always honest with the coup of Tamra. I'm always
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: like Tamara, I love you. But I feel so bad
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: for Tamar because now that the truth is out, and
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: this is what I want people to understand, Camera was
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: accused of drugging somebody.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Which is a horrible accusation.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Horrible for all of you guys who hate Tamra, that's
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: your prerogative.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: It's fine.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Imagine someone lying on you again. Because Tamra did her
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: job by saying, Gretchen, this is what was said. Gretchen said,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I never said.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: That, guys.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Gretchen, out of her own mouth set I never said that,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: which means, guys, it wasn't true.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: So Gretcha is saying I didn't say it because it's
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: not true, right, because if she would have thought tamar
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: rupied her, Gretcha would have said one of two things, Yes,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: I said it, I did feel that way, or she
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: would have said I didn't say that to Katie, but
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: I did feel that way.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: She cried, you're not gonna hug the woman who you
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: think drugged you. You're just not. You're not gonna try
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: and hug the woman who you think drugged you.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: So imagine being Tamra in a room where all these
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: women are now turning against you and saying, we think
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: that Katie's coming true and Tamara, you have a history
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: of lying, And it's like, for wait a second, whether
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: or not Tamarra is a villain, no.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: One should be accused of being a drummer. Like, it's
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: not okay.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: And tamer tweeted Alexis last week that the reason why
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: she looked off is because she did.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Take xanax and was drinking alcohol. So that's what she said, and.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: She said it in her confessional too, so she's not
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: trying to hide it, like you know what happened.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So she said that in this episode she speaks
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: to her psychotherapist, and one thing she said that I
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: was like, you know what, I'm glad she's being honest
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: about how she's feeling, because sometimes reality starts want to
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: play it tough. The one thing she said that I
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: was like, Okay, I love this scene is when she said.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I want people to like me. I don't like him
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: when people don't like me. And I'm like, that's the
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: honesty that I appreciate because being the villain on the
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: show isn't easy. And although we all may have taken it,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: she was talking about the friend group, I also believe
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: she's talking about the way the world views her. What
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: did you think about that moment?
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: Well, I think a couple of things.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: I feel like the other part of this, which I'll
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: get to your question, but I thought the other part
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: that killed me on this episode, no matter who it
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: would have been, whether it was Tamra or Heather or
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: Gina or Emily or whoever was, I hate the fact
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: that it didn't seem authentic for any of the women
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: to actually think about what Tamra was going through in
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: that that was in real time, that they had just
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: found out about Teddy real time. And I was picking
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: up pieces behind the scenes on the phone with Tamara
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: all the time, just trying to get her to get
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: fumped to even go film. I mean, it is a job,
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  Speaker 4: and you do have to do hair, you have to
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: be makeup. She is crying a lot. She is constantly
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: wanting to be by Teddy's side. She had so much
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: on her plate that was real life that it kills
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  Speaker 4: me that none of the women look at that and
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: go wow, if that was my right hand goal, that
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: I would be not being a great place either, like
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: with Tamara. So I that kills me. And then to
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: add on top of that, the whole camera is being
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: accused of something that's not true. The whole thing is
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: just like I don't know how anyone can any of
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: those other six women or seven women wouldn't go this,
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: let's wrap around her and just hold her or just
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: just like go light on her this one episode or filming,
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: you know, or dinner or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: So that killed me. But what was your other part
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: to that question? Because I wanted to get that out about.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, just about the fact that yeah, like the
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: fact that she admitted that she wants people she.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Doesn't like that people don't like her. I thought, like that,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: that's real.
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  Speaker 5: That's so vulnerable and real to say.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: And that is why therapy is working for her, and
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: she is becoming more vulnerable because she's opening in and
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: tapping into that side of her that she's always put
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: up a big wall.
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: About and like, oh, I don't care, I don't care.
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: Everyone cares. Carlos.
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  Speaker 4: Last year, when I was getting all the hate and
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: I lacked like I've murdered a child, it was the
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: worst you can ask anyone in my circle. I was
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: never wanted to leave the house, didn't want to go
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: out to dinners, didn't want to do anything except hybernanc
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: bo horrible about how much people were misjudging me. And so,
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  Speaker 4: no matter who you are, whether you're portrayed as a
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: villain on the show or whether you're a great person,
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: you don't have skin thick enough to just go, oh
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: it doesn't bother me, It does bother you. And and
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: you know, you do have to learn to get thicked
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: skin and turn you know, your look the other way.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it's vulnerable and it shows you that
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: she's growing.
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  Speaker 5: So there you go.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it's listen. This season is great and
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I love it. I agree with you, alex.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Is that I think this is just a tip of
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: the iceberg based on what's going on, because in next
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: week's episode they take a live detext your test and listen.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: This is my opinion. I don't care to see that
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: as I'm wh why why.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: No no no no no no meaning this, meaning this, meaning this.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: I love a Real Housewife show because it's funny and yeah,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: you get the arguments and all that stuff. So I'm
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: not saying about finding out the truth.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: I understand that what I'm saying is we have gone
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: so far with these lies that this show has now
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: become deadly as catch. It's now become an interrogation that's
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: involving a lie detector test versus a show where it's like,
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: let's call each other out, like you said earlier, let
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: let let me just be honest about like, look, I
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: said it, I fucked up. Give me some grapes instead
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: of it's now so bad and people people don't trust
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: each other so much on this show more that they
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: now have to do a lie detector test. I just
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: think how sad this has become.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: That's what I meant by that.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: Well, okay, so you know, we always talk real to
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: each other even if we don't agree, but.
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: I so don't agree with you on this. I don't agree.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: I'm so excited to see it because here's the thing,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: and why did doctor test?
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: By the way, aren't always true.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: I think we've all learned that if you watch date line,
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: it's like, don't take one because they are not accurate.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: This and that.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: Well, I went on marriage boot camp with my mom.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: It was the year before she got really sick.
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: You thank god I did.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: It, and they gave us light to text or test
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: and I passed mine with flying colors.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: But I was like, the whole time they're hooking you up,
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm scared I'm going to get you know, I'm.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: Not lying that they're going to think I'm lying that
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: the lightest is going to say I'm lying. So what
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: I love about this is I do know that they're
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: authentic for some of it, because my mom's was real
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: and sure and I talked about it afterwards. I was like, well,
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: did you are you honest? Is that a true answer?
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: And I think my answer was do you resent your
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: mom for the divorce and for you know, becoming from
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: a broken home? And everyone would think I would say
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: yes to that. I don't resent her for that, So
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: I said no, and I thought, I'm still going to
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: it's going to show I do. But deep down in
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: my gut, in my heart, I never has resented her
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: for that. I understood why they got divorced once I
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: grew up. Right, when you're twelve, you don't. But then
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: so the point I love about this is that these
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: women are going to sit down now. Okay, several of
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: them are lying or I should pay a couple or
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: a few, and I hope that we get to see that.
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: They are, like I hope.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to be fascinating and even kind
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: of funny in some ways.
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: I just I just do.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, I know it sounds dark that, oh we've now,
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: we've gone to light a Texas house. What's next We're
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: gonna you know, I don't know. I don't know what
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: will be next, but you know, to take their blood
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: so we can watch. I don't know, no, I.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Don't, I don't, I don't know, but listen, I an
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: say your point of view too. In terms of like again,
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: this season has been a big who done it? There's
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: a game of clue, and now we're going to hopefully
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: know the results of who's lying in that. And just
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: so everybody understands, the logitexture test, which is not as
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: a polygraph, is a pseudo scientific device that measures records
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: several physiological indicators such as blood pressure, paul rest generation,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: and scan conductivity. While a person is asked an answer
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: is a series of questions. So these are all the
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: factors that comes into which is what letsis said.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Look, there is this sort of like myth that look
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: is not the best in terms.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Of resulting in fact. But in a Lecti's case, she
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: did her to flying colors and police officers in the
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: corner of law, they still do allow this to be
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: evidence in a case when it comes when a case
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: goes to trial.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Excuse me, So, look, we're going to find that out
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: in next week's episode.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: But Alexis Ballina, this season is now getting to the
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: point of a big who Done it? And what I'm
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: hoping by the end of it is what the liars
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: are revealed.
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: But you know, you made a very good point. And
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: it's like the viewers they might not even care.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: It's like they don't always they don't they don't care
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: who's actually telling the truth or like in last season
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: for me, like they don't care who really has the
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: evidence and.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: Have the truth.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: They pity the person that they love the most, or
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: they're you know, they're so I don't know what's going
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: to happen, but I'm I'm excited after last episode, last
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: night's episode, I'm I'm like, wow, this is I mean,
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: even though I had to like I literally had to
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: rewind it a couple of times cause I'm like, okay,
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: wait wait, I don't because it was the cobweb that
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: you need to make a.
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: Sign next time, Carlos, and we'll have all the lines of.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: The viewers so they cannot really follow the story.
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: Anyway, Let's see what's coming up. I'm excited.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: We'll see what's coming up. But a Bilina, thank you
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: so much for topic on Reality with the King and I.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Will see you next week.
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: My love, Hi, everybody, Bye bye. Reality with the King
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• 42:04
  Speaker 6: Nimitz and a partnership.
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  Speaker 2: With the Lack Effect Network.
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