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Episode 29 Backlash 2023 fallout and Raw Review!!! · Podcast Championship Wrestling

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A coucha. The backlash is coming. Backlash from the beach looks beautiful,
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but let's can be deceiving. It's anything for a vacation for you and bring
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me saw your drug when it was a boy, I dream of something bigger.
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Batter bladder to find Grammy Award winning Global Recording Artists Bad Funny. We'll
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host backlash from the sad Wad Puerto Rico tonight on my Island Revenge. It
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is the soundtrack. Yeah, you want to come play with its less real
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a feed Cony's Parker wait in a second, whatever we wait. This in
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here unfinished tale has a full new wrinkle to it. My came. We
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have a comb, We have a shimmis ain't rober. We have a riddle
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to star. It's the reason we came. My grand back on it.
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He just ya'll know what can happen? Hey, damn in, I'm going
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to put the gole to we keep your ass in a dream fight. Come
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now, what can it's about? Porter reach my heartest way for this woman.
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Things are about to get boy Kelly a take sometimes feels good to be
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bad, of course, as a fucking sire. What is this? That's
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a toe truck. The fuck does a toe truck have a goddamn siren on
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trying to fucking record a goddamn podcast. Here we go, you know.
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Gentlemen, Welcome to the Leaf, You're Fucked, Leak Demanded and the Leap
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Downloaded Wrestling Podcast BCW. This could be a long podcast, so strapping and
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shut up and don't be a little bit about it. This is a masters
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Oh, ladies and gentlemen, boys, girls, chilling and fall ages.
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Welcome to another episode of pc W. I am your host, Wayne also
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known as semi dry Chicken. You know what we're gonna do backlash post show,
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and you know what, I Am not going to be larger than charge
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here. No, I am gonna make a tag. But you know what,
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let me introduce my co host and then I'll make the tag and we're
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gonna do things a little different. So introducing Doyle. No, it's me,
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it's me, It's the Dyle and uh it's Luck. What happened about
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five minutes ago? I just stopped crying after Guardians three, So good timing.
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Let's do it. Good timing, all right, and the man with
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the power who will take over for a couple hours, Dry all right,
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Dree, welcome back you you what did it do? PCW crew? You're
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all ready to talk some backlash. Let's talk some backlash, man, I'm
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tagging you in take over my friend. Alrighty A right oh. Backlash took
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place this past Saturday from San Juan, Puerto Rico, before a crowd of
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over seventeen thousand, nine hundred attendees, and according to WWE, this was
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a record breaking show for them. They saw a twenty eight percent increase versus
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last year's Backlash. They also saw over thirty four thousand, eight hundred fans
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for the two days if you include Friday SmackDown and the Saturday Plle. They
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broke merchandise records, sponsorship records, just records across the board. So overall,
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this was a tremendous success financially for excuse me, for thee and the
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show overall. We'll get into the details of that, but just my overall
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thoughts on the show. I thought the show was excellent pretty much from start
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to finish. I know, going into it, we had a lot of
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trepid day about some of the booking behind some of the matches, some that
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just seem to come out of nowhere other matches that seem to have very little
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build up, but when it came down to it and it came time to
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execute, they put on a top notch show, especially for a post WrestleMania
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backlash, which a lot of times tends to just be a run of the
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mill or rehash of WrestleMania itself, just a copy and pace show. Now
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they actually did something different and I'll give them credit for that, and they
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all the wrestlers really brought it. So before we get into the details of
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the match. Um, Doyle, what are your overall thoughts just on the
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show itself. You know, we've been We've been kind of surprised a few
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times lately with some of these shows that kind of seems thrown together at the
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last minute and maybe don't have the big, big build or maybe aren't blowing,
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you know, aren't the blow off to some huge building feuds or whatever,
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and they've all kind of been turned out pretty good. You know,
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they've I've been pretty entertaining pay per views. Um, I don't know if
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it's because we go in expecting less, so we're not disappointing, you know,
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you know, when you when you go in expecting you know, five
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star matches and you don't get it, you're disappointed, and when you go
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in just kind of saying, hey, maybe this will be fun, and
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then it's really fun. Uh that might kind of heighten the heighten the I
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don't know, the enjoyment or whatever. But but yeah, I mean I'm
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surprised. I didn't expect this to be as much fun as it ended up
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being. So so yeah, good good overall pay per view? Wayne,
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what are your thoughts on the overall show. I'll tell you what. Um,
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this year we didn't see a lot of WrestleMania rematches like we've seen in
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the past year, especially last year. Um, it felt like that's mostly
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what the backlashes have been, just WrestleMania backlash. They even called it that
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for the past couple of years. But this year we did get some fresh
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matches. Um. Going into I didn't really have high hopes. But do
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you know what really turned this pay per view around for me was the crowd.
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The crowd everybody in San Juan main pay per view what it was Because
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I know we discussed this a little off air with some Q and A,
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but like, would we have gotten the same reaction for a lot of these
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matches. If it was in the US, probably not, but oh my
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god, like the crowd made these matches, and there's a there's a handful
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of matches we're going to discuss here that for me, I did have high
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hopes as much and kind of turned it around for me um. And then
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there's some that we you know, possibly had higher hopes for kind of didn't
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deliver. But yeah, well we'll get into that. Yeah, you're absolutely
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the crowd play a role a couple of times in the recent past, you
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know Montreal most notably. It's always great when they're in front of a high
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crowd, you know, and maybe the Thunderdome or whatever the hell they called
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it error should have taught us that, you know, right important the crowd
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is all about location, location, location, you know, That's what definitely
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played here. I mean there's a difference between peen into the pool and pen
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in the pool, you know, and this time we're peen in the pool
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and it was it felt great. I don't know if that but now you
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really worked sure. If nothing else, this pay per view definitely reinforced the
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power of a good crowd, definitely more so than a number of pay per
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views in the past, because, like you said, you're right, some
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of these matches, if they were just held in the States or held on
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a random episode of Raw SmackDown, crowd probably would have been dead as hell
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for him. But this Puerto Riy, this San Juan, Puerto Rico crowd
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definitely took this pay per view to a whole other level. In addition to
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the the matches themselves just being good matches, what's crazy is like just the
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sheer size because it's not a large crowd. It's a small venue, you
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know, I mean grant like last year. The backlash that they had last
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year in Rhode Island was like eight thousand people. But this definitely didn't seem
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like seventeen thousand. It sounded and felt way more than seventeen thousand people,
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you know, in that entrance way, that tiny little entranceway. They didn't
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have a huge stage where they're up high and kind of away from everybody exactly,
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but they came out almost through the crowd and looked like, you know,
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yeah, they made the most of it too, Like you said,
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yeah, being down there with the people as they come out, you get
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to see the enthusiasm of the people as they passed by and all that stuff.
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They made it work. They definitely made it work. And how cool
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was that drone shot open where they had they were outside the stadium and they
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came in and kind of panned over the crowd, And how great was that,
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especially in contrast to we've seen them in the NBA playoffs trying to do
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that and it looks like fucking garbage. But he's pulling it off, no
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problem. Yeah, so it looks awesome if you're gonna use it a drone
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use a drone deck could record in it at least sixty frames per second.
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Oh, was that the issue that that the basketball hadn't it was just what
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lagging or just it looked very choppy? Yeah, choppy and pixelated. It
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looked like it was maybe at about fifteen frames a second. It was.
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It looks terrible compared to the nice smooth shot that they got and uh that
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WW put on for the backlash, a nice clean shot. Yeah, that's
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crazy, I guess. Uh. They spent Yeah, a good amount of
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money and and they had a good pilot, I mean obviously because that they
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like you said, they went from outside. Yeah, it was awesome.
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It was really fucking cool. Yeah, just one cut frame of just like
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the whole thing. And they did it twice because they did on SmackDown,
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and I was like, Oh, they've redoing the same shot. I was
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like, oh no, they're doing a whole new one. I was like,
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that's fucking awesome. I was like, why did we not get this
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for WrestleMania. I mean, that would have been cool, but oh no,
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maybe the FAA regulations. Maybe I don't know, you know what,
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that's not outside the remal possibility. I'm serious, Yeah, that's not out.
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That's not an unlikely possibility. But um, let's go ahead and get
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into these matches, y'all. Will kick it off with the pay per views
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first match, which was for the Raw Women's Championship, saw Bianca bell Lair
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take on EO Sky the Challenger um starting off with this one first, I
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was surprised that EO came out to her own individual music, and I actually
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liked it. It kind of fit her persona, it fit her style.
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I really liked that. And once the match started, one of the first
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things that you could definitely tell from the jump was that this crowd was very
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pro EO, which I'm pretty sure caught everyone by surprise, and it's not
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like they hated Bianca like she got boozed, but it wasn't like she was
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a total completely heal to the crowd. I would say it was probably maybe
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like a sixty forty split, maybe seventy thirty at times, but they were
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definitely pro eo the match itself. Again, though, I thought this was
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the second best match of the overall of the pay per view, It was
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the best pure wrestling match and second best overall in my opinion. They had
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a number of good spots throughout the whole match, from their whole move countermove
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sequence to kick off the pay per view to all the eel sky with her
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high flying moves and even showing a little bit of a ground game and a
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good amount of ring psychology as well with her targeting Bianca's arm repeatedly doing damage
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that and then efforts to weaken her to prevent her from using her Kod finisher,
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and despite that, Bianca still looked strong using her power moves to her
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advantage. There really wasn't hardly any flaws in the match, outside from maybe
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one botch when Bianca for the one arm press, which was impressive in its
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own pressing EO up with one arm, but then she proceeded to dump EO
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on her face, which I'm not blaming. I wouldn't necessarily blame Bianca for
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that. I don't know which one of the two was at fault, whether
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it was Bianca or EO, because if you watch it back, it kind
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of looks like EO almost like let herself down to almost too soon, maybe
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which led to her falling on her face. And maybe it could have been
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better had she dumped EO. I mean, yeah, had Bianca dumped EO
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forward instead of to the side. But either way that's a minor flaw and
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otherwise excellent, excellent match. I would give this match a four out of
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five stars, although it was, like I said, one of the best
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matches of the night, definitely stole the show. Uh Wayne, what do
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you think of a match? Um? You know, I'm right up there
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with you with four out of five. Great opening match for the pay per
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view. Um, you know, I was thinking about that that that minor
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botch as well, because that was the only thing that really stuck out.
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But then I'm thinking myself, you know what, you're in the middle of
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the match. You guys are both winded, and she's still doing it with
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one arm, So I mean either or that's still impressive as hell. I
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mean I get it. It's hard to control a drop like that with one
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arm and still face the hard camera at the same time. Uh. Now,
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you guys, since EO has been on the main roster, she's only
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been with uh damage Control. Is this the first time for either of you
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that you've heard her entrance her singles wrestler entrance? For me, yeah,
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it was the first time. Did they play it at SummerSlam? Like I
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think they all came out individually. I think they may have. They may
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have, but um, like that was like one of the things I loved
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about her gimmick her character in NXT was like she always had like a badass
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entrance, you know, like I actually have it downloaded and like if you
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ever like listen to it with some like heavy bass, I mean that song
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kicks, Oh yeah, you could hear it. You could hear it on
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the show. Like so like when I heard her come out to that instead
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of the Damage Control, I was like, yes, Like we're getting a
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little bit of a taste of what she was like an NXT like and like
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my only real complaint and I understand it's her the story, but like a
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damage control didn't interfere at all, Like if it was a clean pin,
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they could have done that and not have damage control interfere. Um, even
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though it is the silliest way. You know, Bailey holding Bianca's hair right,
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the ref saying hey, you can't do that, Like holding hair was
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completely illegal, I guess, uh. And then you know EO not being
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able to hit her her move and then Bianca being able to roll out of
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the way. Uh. I wouldn't much rather have seen a clean pen,
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but like hopefully going forward. Uh that like like you said, like the
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crowd was just they they turned on Bianca, you know. Uh. And
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I don't know it's maybe it's the location, maybe it's you know where it
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was. But we got let's go EO chance and you know it is the
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longer the match win, the more fans wanted EO to win. Um,
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which was so like wow, like I didn't see I didn't see that coming
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at all. Um. So you know, the these the people in Puerto
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Rico must be big EO fans. You know maybe maybe uh, they've they've
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washed a lot of her on NXT uh inside note Jesus Christ, what Bailey
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was wearing? Those pants were so goddamn tight. There's so little material to
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those pants. I haven't seen show so much skin in such a long time.
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Yeah, they weren't really super tight, but those cuts were definitely appreciated.
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They were they were tight. If they were tight, it's just because
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she filled them out so well, yeah, that's true. That's true,
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soup. So I guess I guess them coming out wasn't all that bad.
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But I'm starting to maybe we could see some cracks in the foundation of damage
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control as well, you know you, I could see it, like you
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messed up my title win, Like I got a shot for the title.
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I was doing very well. I was throwing on a hell of a match
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and you guys interfered and that cost me possibly being a champion. Um.
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But yeah, dude, like this was a great match to kick off the
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show, like we're out of five for me? Yeah, definitely, Um,
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Doyle, what do you think of a match? And also do you
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let me ask you this as well? Do you think the Puerto Rico crowd
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was just an anomaly or do you think this reaction that we saw for Bianca
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and Eel will carry back to the States. Um. I think, well,
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I'll get into what I think my plan for io Sky is going forward,
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and that includes her being a face. Uh. And I don't know.
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I'm sure this will influence that. Uh Bianca. UM, I think
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she she may start to get and I've called her jones seeing her before,
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she might kind of have be starting to get that. You know, you're
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too much of a goody two shoe backlash kind of thing. But maybe not.
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Um, I don't think it if it does fall all her back to
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the mainland, I don't think it's going to be very pronounced. I don't
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think it will be nearly as as evident as it was in Puerto Rico.
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Um. But yeah, this is a great match to start to show.
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Um. And you know, you know, I love when a crowd doesn't
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quite play along or whatever. You know. Um, you think back to
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Hogan Rock, was that WrestleMania eighteen or um Stone cole Brett at thirteen the
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double switch? And I don't nobody was really switching here. But it's always
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fun. You know. Canada is great for that too. But you just
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got the crowds not rooting for her they're supposed to be rooting for, and
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isn't booing who they're supposed to boo. That's always fun. Um yeah,
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I mean I get the EO Sky didn't really have a shot here, you
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know, but I did kind of start to believe it a little bit.
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You know. Uh, maybe that's because I've devoted way too much. I'm
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worrying about the Women's Championships and what belts going where and what the lineage is
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gonna be. Uh but um yeah, I mean interference, Uh, it
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kind of it kind of fucked up what I thought was headed towards like a
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four star match, you know. Um, but it's a it's a story
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too, you know, and that was the story of the match. Um,
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damage control kind of fucking EO over. Uh So yeah, I think
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it's absolutely the beginning of the end. Uh, if not just for her
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and damage Control and damage Control altogether. UM, My fantasy booking would be
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Um EO turns face on them, uh and Dakota and Bailey continue on either
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as damage Control with as a tag team just called damage Control, or they
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had a third or third end or fourth member. Um and kind of restart
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the group. Um, I would prefer the tag team. I think,
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you know, don't look now, and I think this might be what they
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were trying to do a year ago, almost a year ago to the day
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actually, because it was May sixteenth when Sasha Banks and um and Naomi walked
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out. I think they were trying to rev up and maybe make the uh
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the women's tag division have a monoicum of respectability. Uh. And then when
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when Sasha and Naomi left, I think they just dropped all their plates on
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the floor and had trouble cleaning it up. But if you look at the
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you know, uh, if you got you got Living Rakal, the champions,
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by the way, they need to get a name. They need to
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get matching outfits. Uh, and they need all all of these teams need
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that uh and like uh double team move, you know, the signature double
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team moves and stuff like that. But you got you got Living Raqal,
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you'd have Damage Control, you'd have Shanna, Rhonda and Shana. Um.
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It looks like Indie Hartwell and um, what the hell's John Gargana's wife's name.
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I can't think of it. Lay. Yeah, it looks like they
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might be a team still they were on Raw together. You got Sonya and
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Chelsea. They just called up the two or three women's SAG teams from nxt
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UM, you know, so suddenly, h suddenly you have a bunch of
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teams. Um. And if they're gonna be specific to one brand, say
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maybe they do a thing where you have to defend it against the other brand
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every forty five days or every sixty days or something, just so there's some
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suspensive Well maybe it won't always be on SmackDown. Maybe it'll go over to
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Raw, maybe it'll go back to SmackDown or whatever. But anyway, back
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to EO, uh, I hope they don't put her in like a tag
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team with Oscar or something, you know what I mean, and call them
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the Rising Sun you know, Raiders or something, you know, something cliche.
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Yeah, right, you know, I actually kind of hope she doesn't
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work with Oscar at all, at least for a little while anyway. Like
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I think about like two years from now, maybe at the Royal Rumble,
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when you know everybody's cleared out, it's just then when they turn around and
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they do the face to face moment, that might be really fucking cool.
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Um. But yeah, I think I think this is EO's time to kind
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of go out on her own. Um. And I think, uh,
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I think she's going to be a player going forward. Um And and you
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know, and then you know, and you can take Bailey and put her
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in the tag division and kind of get some you know, Bailey doesn't need
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anymore. She can you can always heat her right back up to get her
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back in the title picture too. But you know, when you have some
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of those women who have been world champions buying for the tag title, that
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makes the tag title look a little uh, look a look a little sweeter
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of a prize. Um. You know, as far as as as beyonc
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getting booed, We've talked a lot about and I've said a lot of times,
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how are they going to turn her heel? They should turn her heel?
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And and and for story wise, I think they should. Um.
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But I think I've said this also in the past. I think she almost
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as got into the point where she's just too god damn valuable as uh as
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a face, you know, as a face of the company, as a
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as a ambassador, um the stuff with the kids um merch sales. Uh.
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So she might be at a point for now anyway where she's just too
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valuable to do that. But you know, like Haul Hogan was back in
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the day, like John Cena has been historically. Um, and maybe that'll
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change, you know. I hope it does. I would love to see
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a heel turnout where she was great as a heel in NXT. Great match.
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I give it three and a half stars, and I only knock it
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because the the interference fucked up a great match. But you had to have
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the interference because that was a story. So you can't have your cake and
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eat it too. Yeah, Unfortunately that was part of the story that had
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to play out, and to an extent, it almost seemed like damage control
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coming out almost seemed it seemed to me like it started to turn the crowd
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towards Bianca something, just because they wanted Bianca to get rid of those two
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so that we get back to just the one on one. That kind of
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led me to my thinking, oh my god, they might actually do this
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because like you figure their goons are coming out, that means you know,
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they're going to interfere and screw the baby face over. You know, imagine
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that like EO would win the title, right, and then maybe you have
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like a like an evolution type deal where like Bailey's like now like and her
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and Dakota both turn on Io you know at of jealousy. You know that
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that could also have been another recycled storyline, since they love recycling storylines all
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over again. That would have been one hell of a thing. Except the
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only difference between that and what happened when the evolution is that in the evolutions
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case, Randy Orton won the title clean without anybody's interference, and then that's
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what sparked the jealousy from Triple H. I don't know how if they would
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have worked out as effectively if they came out and helped her win just to
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turn around and turn on her for actually doing the thing they helped her to
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do, had her win clean at which they could have. I mean,
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the crowd was totally behind EO for it, right. The crowd was Yeah,
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that's the problem with going overseass like you like, like Dole said,
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you always get you You can get a row crowd whenever you travel outside the
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states, but the majority of your business is still handled within the States,
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so they can't quite make a decision. Based on how Puerto Rico responded and
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I'm pretty sure they didn't even know or think that Puerto Rico would react like
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this to EO. I'm pretty sure they went in expecting that EO would get
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booed like the typical heel and Bianca would get the monster pop like the top
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baby face that she is um. But regardless of how the crowd was and
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all the circumstances that happened, one thing is for certain is that after this
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match, you can't look at EO the same way anymore. I think she
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firmly established herself as a singles competitor to be wreckoned with just on the strength
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of her performance alone in this match. So I agree, given how this
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all happened, and now we have to go back to the stage, which,
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by the way, I'm really looking forward to SmackDown this Friday because I
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really want to see how the American crowds react to some of what happened at
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this pay per view. But yeah, you know, when I think when
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when when EO says, you know, screw you guys here, You've screwed
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up my moment or whatever, I think they'll they'll make that play where EOS
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coming out as the face, and I think I think she'll just ride that
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momentum into her face turn or whatever. Potentially if the crowd reacts like that,
28:53
So how much Still I think it's possible. It's possible. But if
29:00
they do, if they do come back to the States and and the EO
29:03
does start getting face pop cheers as opposed to the other two in damage control,
29:10
how much longer do you think it is before they break up the group?
29:15
And on the flip side, if we go back to the States and
29:18
Bianca turns out to start getting a less than a less positive reaction than she
29:26
has been getting, should Bianca? Should the w W turn Bianca? Hell?
29:32
What do you think? Wayne? I mean, I watched her as
29:36
a heal on NXT and I honestly I loved it. So when she came
29:40
to the main roster's face that was that was very different from me, and
29:44
I didn't know how to take her as a face. And you know,
29:48
now time a lot has time has passed. She's now surpassed four hundred days
29:52
as champion um and you know what, like I think, before she ends
30:00
up getting stale, I don't want to see her get stale where people are
30:04
just okay, come out. She's gonna give the same old est you know
30:11
space as she always gives, and like, we don't want her to get
30:15
stale. We want especially if you're gonna keep plan on keeping the title on
30:18
her longer, Like maybe it is best. Maybe maybe this is a small
30:23
window where it's like, okay, maybe we'll put her up against somebody else
30:27
who might get possibly cheered over her, that we could slowly start turning here
30:33
in a heel. And we've seen that happened before. Um, you know,
30:38
I feel like it's happened with Becky before. Um. You know where
30:44
you know, you have this crowd just turn on you, and that sometimes
30:47
is the window to turn, to turn the page and become something else.
30:52
And you know, if they were to ever decide to put her with the
30:59
street profits and tend the street profits heal, oh, that would be one
31:03
hell of a group that would be reckoned with you know, heal Bianca heel
31:07
street prophets. You know, they just go hand in hand. I couldn't
31:12
see. I never liked the idea of you know, we had Becky was
31:18
a heel, then Seth was a face. And I know they don't always
31:23
intertwine their stories, but like in retrospect. I never liked it. It's
31:30
like, you gotta make them all heal then, because it would be definitely
31:33
refreshing for Bianca, but absolutely refreshing for the street profits to go heal.
31:41
I mean, they've done everything they can as faces, and you know,
31:45
week after week they're competing and it just seems like they're not getting any closer
31:48
to the taxing goals, and maybe going heal as a group could definitely do
31:56
it. And you know, right now, it's kind of air currents.
32:00
WW wasn't always big on stables, and I know that's hard to believe when
32:05
you think of like Evolution DX and nWo and and all, you know,
32:09
you think of a bunch of other little stables. But recently, in the
32:14
past few years, I feel like we've had the most amount of stables we've
32:17
ever had. And you know, sometimes like kind of maybe it's a something
32:23
that a W has been doing a lot of and maybe debeb is starting to
32:27
do the same. But yeah, but I'm totally on board with Bianca bel
32:31
Air being the heel um. You know, some people don't pull the trigger
32:36
on like John Cena. They didn't pull the trigger on that for many many
32:38
many many years they still haven't. But come on, when they did the
32:44
fucking Roman Reigns, they made that guy fucking interesting again. I mean he
32:47
was, he was dull and staleless, shit as a face to the point
32:52
where he got you know, I just got tired of hearing you know,
32:54
his theme music, tired of the the vest wearing, you know, the
33:00
shitty promo Roman Reigns. But when he came back, it's a hell holy
33:06
shited the trajectory of his whole career. Yeah, exactly. And imagine if
33:10
Bianca did that, you know, I know, it's like, how much
33:14
farther can you go? You're already champion, believe it or not. You
33:15
can go a lot farther, a lot, a lot farther. So yeah,
33:21
I'm totally agreeance if she goes hell yeah, Um, do y'all think
33:27
it can happen before the end of the year. I would believe so,
33:32
I think so. I mean, this is what they're making it seem like,
33:37
uh, you know, the beginning of a new season, the beginning
33:40
of a new year for us WrestleMania's over. The draft is now done.
33:45
Backlash is now behind us, So now the draft is in effect, I
33:50
say, that a massive fucking quotes because you now we got free agents and
33:55
and well well i'll bitch about this later about world heavyweight title tournaments that involved
34:04
people from other rosters, but we'll talk all about that later. But uh,
34:07
yeah, it totally I see it as a very good possibility. All
34:16
right. Um, any final thoughts, Doyle, you got anything? Last
34:20
thoughts of won this match? Yeah, I mean, if they turn or
34:23
I hope it's a surprise, I just hope we don't see it coming.
34:28
I kind of hope it's out of nowhere. But yeah, what a great
34:30
what a great match to start off with. Yep, I agree, all
34:36
right? Moving on, the next match we got was oh Moss versus seth
34:43
Rawlins, and this match was it was okay. I mean, it ain't
34:50
really a whole lot to say here, Like seth Rolins obviously won the match.
34:53
I don't think there was a doubt in anybody's mind that he was gonna
34:55
win. Um. The only things of interest from this match for me I
35:00
can say is that I will give credit to Omas because he did look good
35:06
in the ring during this match. He looked I thought he looked good at
35:08
WrestleMania against Brock Lesner and here he looked he's looked better exactly. He's definitely
35:15
improving, and it appears that possibly the WW officials backstage are also taking note
35:22
of his approvement and are happy with it. According to p W Insider,
35:27
WW officials are were very much impressed with his performance in this match in terms
35:31
of his movement and his selling for Seth Rollins, and they called it one
35:36
of his best matches to date. So um. In addition to you all
35:42
stoughts on this match, my question to you all is can you see Omas
35:46
being a main eventor one day? Doyle Let's start with you. Uh yeah,
35:53
I mean yeah, very much like like Omas's match was brock. Yeah,
35:59
it was good enough for what it was. I don't think we were
36:00
any of us expecting a five star match or anything like that. Um,
36:07
but I just I gotta wonder what he's doing for almost you know, if
36:10
he's gonna be facing all this top tier talent, he's eventually gonna have to
36:15
beat somebody, isn't he. I mean, you can, you can beat
36:20
up jobbers on raw all you want, but if you're consistently losing pay per
36:23
view matches, you know, just what does it do for the guy.
36:29
UM agree. You know, like we said, he is definitely improving both
36:34
in the ring and just you know, his general demeanor, facial expressions,
36:37
the little things. Um, it's starting to get there. And I mean,
36:43
and it's not like you know, big dudes like that I can't put
36:46
on decent matches. You know, I remember a triple h great colleague match.
36:52
I want to say from um, I want to say SummerSlam in the
36:58
late odds. That wasn't that bad. Uh, you know, and I
37:04
think he's better than the great Colleague. Uh. Yeah, I think Almas
37:09
could be a main event player. Uh, he could be a world champion.
37:15
Um. You know, this is a big man territory. He always
37:19
has been. Um. But he's gonna stop losing. He's gonna beat somebody
37:24
eventually, you know. Yeah. Yeah, that's that. There's the rub.
37:28
And I agree with you with that. If the ww officials are impressed
37:31
with his with his improvement and he's doing and he's clearly putting in the work
37:37
in terms of improving his physique and improving improving his performance in the ring,
37:42
at some point if they want to, if they want him to be a
37:47
performer, that we should care about they got to start giving him some wins,
37:51
and not, like you said, not just to the jobb or of
37:54
the week from whatever local territories in town. Like, he needs to win
37:58
against somebody with an at some point if they have any long term plans for
38:02
him. Otherwise he can do all the way, he can look as good
38:06
as he want. We can sit here and give him all the praise and
38:07
he wants. But if he just keeps losing, nobody's gonna care about him.
38:12
Well, you know, we have seen them reward guys, a couple
38:15
of people recently for getting themselves in better shit, you know, specific Gunther
38:22
of course, yea, I know Damian Priest, I don't. I don't
38:28
know if it might have been before he was in WWE development or whatever,
38:31
but he was a he was a much bigger guy. So yeah, we've
38:37
seen them reward that kind of commitment, you know. But it's just he
38:45
can't keep stacking up these losses, you know, Like, let him fight
38:50
somebody smaller and beat him, you know what I mean. But if you're
38:53
gonna keep putting him in there with these first ballot Hall of famers and he's
38:57
not gonna win, I just feel like it's doing it more harm than good,
39:02
you know. Um. As far as the actual match goes, uh
39:06
to two things that stood out I thought were cool or um when he blocked
39:12
the stomp just just with his sure strength. I don't think we've seen anybody
39:17
do that. That was that was a that was an impressive spot. We
39:22
saw that with Bobby Lashley is the only other person who's done it. Um.
39:29
So when I saw it, I was kind of like I kind of
39:30
rolled my eyes a little, like, hmmm, I've seen this before.
39:35
Uh but yeah, go on, if we've seen that top rope stomp before.
39:39
That was pretty awesome too, Like that's what it took to take almost
39:43
down and I get that it's taking a huge effort to beat him, but
39:46
he's still losing at the end of the day. Yeah, definitely, Yeah,
39:52
I would. I don't know, I'd give it two and a half
39:54
stars. I guess it was better than I thought it was going to be,
39:57
but it wasn't anything great. Wow. Before before the match, there
40:02
was a little vignette they gave away Savio Vega given the given the the the
40:08
Kendo stick. It was cool, but it's like, oh, why it
40:13
was so much cool or if he just came out and you didn't even know
40:15
it was in the building, you know, that was all a little,
40:19
this little little side. But yeah, I didn't have start that. Yeah,
40:25
So, um, Wayne, would you think of the match and what
40:28
are your thoughts on Olmos? I'm gonna agree with Doyle and you know,
40:31
two and a half stars for this seth Rollins pretty much made the match what
40:36
it was. Um, he basically carried Almos through a lot of it.
40:39
He has improved. But when you sit here and you look at his win
40:44
loss record, right, uh, like singles win loss record, and you
40:49
want to put all the jobbers aside, these guys who who we've never heard
40:53
of, right in handicap matches, right, we've seen squash matches like this,
41:00
and just to keep his head afloat because he's constantly losing against these big
41:06
names. You know, Uh, it seems like as a free agent he
41:09
can just you know, they just throw him anywhere. You know, we
41:13
need a quick giant, let's throw him in anywhere. But you know,
41:16
meanwhile, the matches that he has won against wrestlers that are notable. Uh,
41:24
we got like a Lias, we got Dolph Zigler, we got Mustafa
41:28
Ali, We got our truth, Johnny Gargano, you know Ezekiel, Cedric
41:34
Alexander, you know Robert Rude, Matt you know he did event he beat
41:39
Matt Ridol June of last year, Like that was the probably like the blast
41:45
big name of somebody he's beaten. But other than that, like when he's
41:50
put in front of you know, Bobby Lashley even uh uh you know braun
41:55
Strowman, uh, Brock Lesner, Cody Rowe, he's seth rollins. He's
42:00
just losing all of him. And you know, if this guy is to
42:06
be the next time, he needs to win over somebody big. And I
42:10
totally agree with that. And as for him being like maybe a possible main
42:15
of Ventor or maybe a future world champion, Like it's so possible because in
42:20
the company that he's in, that like as long as Vince is alive,
42:23
like he's willing to push any man who has a lot of fucking meat to
42:28
him. And this guy, you know what I mean, Let's let's not
42:31
forget that braun Stroman was once champion. Let's not forget that the Great Kaleleague
42:37
beat the Undertaker and was champion World champion. Like it's what I mean,
42:44
he's already better than a great Yeah. Yeah, he can bend his knees.
42:47
You know, he doesn't look like he's walking on stilts out there.
42:51
He can move Yeah, I totally agree, he can move around. But
42:55
you know, unless you're stacking up some solid dub use, like you know,
43:01
like what does it all mean in the end? Like and now now
43:04
I don't find him as much as a threat. I mean, there was
43:07
a point in time where the Great Colleague stopped being a threat, where he
43:10
just started dancing around in Italia. You know, he was the kiss Cam.
43:15
You guys, remember the fucking kiss Cam. There was a point in
43:20
Big Show's career where I felt like he was becoming a fucking joke where he
43:22
was just losing matches all the time. The Big Show, you know,
43:27
like that guy held multiple he's Grand Slam Champian, he's the only person to
43:30
hold the wcw ECW and WW and World Heavyweight title. You know, but
43:36
then he became a running joke, a running gag, and like it,
43:42
like hopefully he's going forward and not backwards, because at one point this man
43:46
was a ninja with Tzaba. Do you guys remember that shit? You remember
43:52
that he was also a bouncer for Sha McMahon's Underground Fight Pit or wherever the
43:59
hell it was. Remember that shit, Like, I'm sorry, I don't
44:02
know if you can hear. There's like fireworks going off. Now they turn
44:08
him back to an XT. I mean, why not shot there for nine
44:15
months a year, win the title, defended a bunch of times, kicked
44:19
the ship out of everybody. Uh, come back up, you know what
44:23
I mean, Like, get him some reps, dude, that's what he
44:25
needs. He needs reps, the solution, you know, Like he's not
44:34
I obviously ever put on a microphone ever ever ever. Thank God for MVP.
44:38
But he just needs to start beating better people on the roster and stop
44:44
feeding him fucking jobbers because at the end of the day, it just doesn't
44:47
mean anything to me. You're you're gonna have him beat like so many jobbers.
44:52
And then next week he's he's at Rustlemania with Brock freaking lessner like,
45:00
and you know, and then he gets on the card again with Seth Rollins
45:04
Like these aren't just pushover guys. I mean, granted he loses to him,
45:07
but like he gets on the card and meanwhile there's a bunch of good
45:12
wrestlers sitting backstage who aren't doing shit. But just because of this guy's sheer
45:15
size, you know, he's getting pay per view matches, right, So,
45:22
but but let's give Omas some credit here. Like, like we have
45:24
said, he kind of glossed over it though the fact that he is improving,
45:29
He is getting better in his ringwork. He has put in the work
45:32
in terms of improving his physique, and like I said, I do agree
45:36
with you all that he does need to start getting some wins. But the
45:40
reward comes after the work. So he's putting in the work and now he's
45:45
at that point where we should start to expect to see the rewards come.
45:51
We can't. We can't hold too much of the past against him too.
45:55
We can't hold the pass against too much because he wasn't as good back then,
46:00
and back then he was getting over just on the fact of being big.
46:04
So as he as he gets better, I believe we should we should
46:07
hopefully start to see some wins from him. He definitely does not need to
46:10
go back to NXT because that would just be seen as a demotion and that
46:15
would kill any kind of momentum. Maybe he may be gaining in the audience's
46:21
eyes, because yeah, he is taking wins. But I'm pretty sure,
46:24
I'm pretty sure it's not just us who are seeing that he's looking better in
46:30
the ring and that and sometimes even at a loss, you can you can
46:35
raise your stock if you put out there a good performance. We just talked
46:37
about it with EO Sky in the last match. I think something like this
46:43
can potentially I'm not saying that this match alone is gonna change everything for Omas,
46:47
but it can be a first step. It can be this can be
46:51
the starting block of a turnaround for his character if he continues to put in
46:58
the work and continues to improve. But it's really all in O Moss's in
47:02
Olmster's hands at this point, right, And like you said, we did
47:06
see the failed first attempt of the curve somp and I kind of laughed at
47:13
the attempt on the pedigree because we did discuss that last episode, like,
47:19
motherfucker's gotta get pretty low to get a pedigree, and You're right, there's
47:22
no way he was gonna hit a pedigree. And like, as I'm watching
47:24
the match, I like say out wow, before it even happens, I'm
47:28
like the only ways he's gonna end is if he does a curve song from
47:30
the top freaking rope, And that's what we got for the one, two
47:34
three, And that's the only way to put down a giant such as Olmoss.
47:38
Yeah that's smart booking, because yeah, had Seth Rollins one with like
47:43
a pedigree that would have made O Moss looked terrible. But the fact that
47:46
yeah, he one blocked a stomp, then kicked out of two stomps,
47:51
and then had to take one off the top to finally put him down.
47:52
Yeah, that makes the guy look strong even in a loss. Yeah.
47:58
Um, anything else? Any last thoughts on this match from anyone? Nope?
48:05
All right then, and we shall move on to match number three of
48:08
the night, which was a triple threat match for the United States Championship which
48:13
fit saw Bobby Lashly take on Bronson Reid taking on the champion Austin theory.
48:22
As little as I had to say about the Omas and Seth Rollins match,
48:25
I arguably have even less to say about this match. Out of all the
48:30
matches on the card, this is probably the lowest match in my eyes,
48:36
like compared to the rest of the car Comparatively speaking, the crowd seemed to
48:40
be the least interested in this match. They were practically dead at the beginning
48:45
of it, and they didn't start getting into it until we started to see
48:50
some of the bigger spots. Outside of like an occasional chant for Bobby Lashley,
48:55
which I don't even know exactly what they were saying. It almost sounded
48:59
like they were say, and let's go Debo, like they were calling him
49:00
Debo. I couldn't couldn't quite make out what they were saying. But that's
49:06
like pretty much the only activity we really saw was pops for Bronson Read when
49:10
he would pull off a move and chance for Bobby Lashly. But other than
49:14
that, this crowd, the crowd was dead. The match was okay,
49:19
and honestly, in my opinion, Bronson Read carried this match. In my
49:22
opinion, all of the noteworthy spots involved him, whether it was somebody,
49:28
whether it was like him countering or him turning on Austin theory. After they
49:34
collectively beat down Bobby Lashly and then squashing him to him hitting the splash on
49:38
Bobby Lashly from the on the outside, like damn, they're taking his whole
49:44
right side out to hitting I think a splash on lastly, right after Theory
49:50
hit a move. Pretty much every noteworthy spot in this match involved Bronson Read,
49:54
and so he kind of carried the match. Lastly in Theory just much
50:00
did what they always do with each other. But ultimately Austin we saw Austin
50:05
Theory get the win. And my question to y'all is did this wind do
50:10
anything for Austin Theory? H Doyle start with you. What do you think
50:16
of the match? And do you think this wind did anything for Theory?
50:20
Yeah? I feel like every time we have a three way, I have
50:23
to give my disclaimer that I usually don't like these matches because uh uh,
50:29
you know, they always have the same formula. Luckily, this was so
50:35
quick that I didn't really have time to fall into that trap too too badly.
50:39
Uh, this wasn't even seven minutes, I don't think. Um,
50:44
but yeah, absolutely right, Bronson Reed uh looked like the star. Um.
50:50
I think he probably comes out the best at the end of the day
50:54
from this. Uh. That Vader bomb he did to lastly on the outside
50:59
was awesome and looked fucking dangerous as shit. Um um, but I'm kind
51:07
of confused by his character, right, Like is he this you know,
51:10
like wild man savage kind of guy, or is he this designer suit sort
51:16
of kind of guy. Like, I don't know, they something to be
51:22
doing. Like he came in, it's like what missus tired henchman and then
51:27
immediately had nothing to do with the miss and then kind of floated around and
51:30
then suddenly started wearing like sunglasses and suits and stuff and backstage segments and stuff.
51:37
But then when he's out in the ring, he's like this wild dude,
51:39
you know this, Like, so I'm confused by what his character is.
51:45
Uh. I hope they find a way to kind of streamline that.
51:50
Um. I didn't mind the finish. I mean it was kind of textbook,
51:53
but there's only so many ways you can you can win these things or
52:00
end these things. Um didn't do anything for theory. I mean, it's
52:06
it's another wind. He's stacking wins, and he's clearly improving. Uh uh
52:12
similar to almost him, but he's much much much farther along obviously than almost
52:17
and and uh I would say apples and oranges comparison between the two. But
52:24
I think you can see that he's getting better and better and better. Um,
52:29
so didn't do anything for him. Yeah. I mean, like I
52:30
said, it's a win, and it was just you know, just another
52:35
chance for him to look good. He certainly didn't look bad, um,
52:38
you know, and I guess Bronson goes runs a muck on the raw mid
52:42
card and uh, last he's off to the tournament. Uh for whatever,
52:46
that's why. Uh But I give it two and a half stars. Wayne,
52:53
Where are you at on this one? What did you think of the
52:55
match? Did your theory like, like, honestly two stars my lowest match
53:01
six minutes and fifty seconds, And honestly, I just think Bronson read can't
53:07
carry a long match. He gets super fucking winded. And I've been catching
53:15
onto that for a lot of his matches, and you know, they were
53:19
trying to hide it in this triple threat match, which is a good way
53:21
to hide, you know, when you have big guys who who you know,
53:24
he's a big guy like you know, get winded pretty quickly in these
53:29
matches, you know. Unfortunately for Bobby Lashley, he's stuck in the middle
53:36
of this, and you know, he was the more popular wrestler in this
53:39
match. But Bronson also got a couple of cheers whenever it came to putting
53:44
Austin theory down. You know, everybody hates Austin theory. I mean,
53:47
and you know, even my girlfriend whenever she sees hims, like, oh,
53:51
this fucking guy, the guy with the pubic hair on his face who
53:53
can't grow a beard. Yeah, I get it. You hate him because
53:58
he's doing his job as a heel. He's doing a good job as a
54:00
heel. If you hate him that much that every time you hear his music
54:04
and you roll your fucking eyes and you say to yourself audibly like, oh,
54:07
this fucking guy. You know, to me, that's just like,
54:12
Okay, that's a heel doing his job. That you hate him that fucking
54:15
much, you know, uh yeah, I think he's good. Yeah,
54:20
he's a great heal. And this guy he has like the wins this year
54:25
alone. You know, you put seth Rollins up there, Edge, John
54:30
Cena, you know Ray Mysterio. You know these are you know, Bobby
54:35
Lashley, these are big names that he's knocking off the board. And whether
54:39
it's a shitty you know, you know, way about going about it to
54:45
retain that title, but he's still fucking doing it. But that's what a
54:49
heel wrestler does though you know he's not gonna win these as you know,
54:54
he didn't. He didn't even beat John's nickling. He had to get a
54:58
low blow. But he's still got that fucking w I mean, I don't
55:01
I don't quite know exactly how long he's been United as champion, but it's
55:07
pretty lengthy run, you know, as of lead. It seems like that's
55:10
what they're doing with all the goddamn titles. You know, everybody's gonna get
55:13
a lengthy run now, every fucking person gets a lengthy run because we're just
55:16
gonna set new records, so you know what, Like I honestly, at
55:22
this point, I don't know who is going to take the title off Austin
55:25
theory. It seems like Bobby Lashley can't do it. Um, I don't
55:30
know if they plan on doing Bronson Read in Austin Theory one on one or
55:34
are these guys are done? You know, yeah, Bronson Read and Uncle
55:39
Bobby and they still think that. I still think there's some bad blood there
55:45
that they can finish. You know, even though they duke down on raw
55:49
a few times, I feel like that that few could still continue on.
55:52
But um, and you're right, like I don't know what Bronson read wants
55:58
to be. He doesn't. He doesn't seemed like he fucking knows what he
56:00
wants to be. You know, I've only seen him as a face on
56:04
annex seat before he got let go, And you know I liked him as
56:07
a face. But uh, they're gonna build him as this monster. He'll
56:12
then, you know, stick stick to a gimmick. I guess yeah.
56:20
But he's walking around with these suits all of a sudden out of nowhere.
56:22
I mean, the heel thing though. He'ls do like wearing suits. I
56:25
I always but like dog do, big, big guy, he's like wearing
56:31
like it's more of a Ric Flair thing that a earthquake thing, you know.
56:37
Yeah, yeah, I get it, I got you. Uh but
56:40
yeah you can have swag me. Yeah, big try to you know,
56:49
to make the ship fit. I guess you know, it could work,
56:51
It could work. Um, but yeah, Austin theory. I I I
56:58
don't see who's gonna take the title of this guy anytime soon. Um just
57:02
when you know, you keep throwing these bigger names at him, you think,
57:06
definitely, definitely these guys are gonna take it from This guy's gonna take
57:08
it from like like it's definitely gonna take the title from him, from him,
57:13
you know, Seth Rollins absolutely, Bobby Lashly for sure, john you
57:19
know, but nope, And you know, like right right off the bat
57:22
of of beating in Johnston and he beat Ray Stereo like the next night on
57:27
Rawle after the guy just got induct in the Hall of Fame and just beat
57:30
the shit out of his own son. You know that whatever, terrible fodder,
57:34
you know. But uh but like him or hat him, That motherfucker's
57:38
on the rise, and you know he's in the running to to be the
57:45
next world heavyweight champion if things go his way on Friday. Okay, all
57:50
right, I gotta stop you right there. I think I think I think
57:53
I think I went a little too far there. But I hear everything you're
58:00
saying, and I think I've said this before and I'll say it again.
58:05
Theory has the chops, he has the talent, he has the ability,
58:09
he has the skill in the ring, he has it on the mic.
58:14
Despite all of that, he still isn't going anywhere. Is he stacking up
58:21
wins? Yes, Are any of them doing anything for him? I still
58:27
say no, that they're not he has the wins on paper. That's kind
58:31
of like what he is. He's like, he's like the guy in a
58:36
in like NBA two K who or in a video game who is like a
58:40
ninety five rating, But then you see him on the court and they're actually
58:44
not that good or like that team like like a bit of a throwback here,
58:50
I'll take it way back to day. One of my favorite games as
58:52
a kid was m NBA Live ninety five And in that game, you know,
58:59
in the game itself, you know what one of the best teams was
59:00
in that game, the Golden State Warriors back then. That team had Tim
59:07
Hardaway, Latrell spret Well, Chris Mullen, Chris Gallen, and a bunch
59:10
of other people. And in that game, yeah, look, Latrell's pretty
59:15
well in that game, you could reign threes on people and absolutely whoop ass.
59:21
You know what that team actually was in NBA trash they I don't think
59:25
that team ever made the playoffs that roster. I don't think they did.
59:30
If they did, they only went out in the first round. Now,
59:32
how does that compare to Austin theory. I think Austin theory is a bit
59:37
of the same at the moment. I'm not saying that Austin Theory is trash,
59:40
no, But what I'm saying is he looks better on paper than he
59:45
actually does when you really look at his matches and his wins. If you
59:52
look on paper, Austin Theory beat John Cena, if you actually watched the
59:57
match, it was just a cheap, low blow win and not that great
1:00:00
of a match and not that good of a performance. If you look at
1:00:04
him on paper, yes, he has multiple wins over Bobby Lashly. If
1:00:07
you go look at the actual matches, almost every single time, it's been
1:00:10
a triple threat match with a sloppy finish and some and Bobby Lashly has pretty
1:00:15
much had the match one and Austin Theory has just kind of slipped in at
1:00:20
the last minute and stolen the win, which I guess that's a heal thing
1:00:23
to do. He'll still wins, but there's a way to steal a win
1:00:28
or get a win and a triple threat match and still come off looking good.
1:00:31
We saw a perfect example of it this past Monday on Raw, which
1:00:35
will discuss later. But that's where that's where Theory is losing it with me.
1:00:40
He can have this stuff on paper, but there's nothing. I'm not
1:00:46
seeing anything in the actual matches that's changing how he looks think about it.
1:00:52
In this entire run, can you name a signature match that he's had,
1:01:00
a match that people will look back at and say, oh, that was
1:01:02
it mat to change things there that one match, and oh yeah, and
1:01:07
then that one match and then oh wait, Okay. He's been championing for
1:01:14
one hundred and sixty four days and you're right, I can't think of a
1:01:19
legit, clean, memorable win that he's had. Yeah, And if you
1:01:24
think about every guy who's eventually risen to the top, most noteworthy guys,
1:01:30
they have that moment. They have that moment where things changed for him.
1:01:35
Stone Cold, you could say was Rustlemania thirteen or the King of the Ring
1:01:38
Sean Michaels, It was this ladder match. It doesn't necessarily have to be
1:01:40
a win or a loss. It just has to be a moment where you
1:01:44
check where people start to look at you differently. Yep, theory doesn't have
1:01:50
that yet. Despite this this lengthy title run, to me, it seems
1:01:54
like they're just keeping the title on him because they ain't got shit else to
1:01:58
do with them. They they don't they like them enough to keep them there.
1:02:01
They maybe have something planning for him in the future, but they also
1:02:07
ain't got shit to do with them right now, so it's like, just
1:02:09
keep the title, man, just just sit there and be champ and live
1:02:14
off that for a while. He's not. You're just spinning wheels to me,
1:02:19
right. I felt like, uh, the the win was kind of
1:02:24
very predictable. I was like, Oh, well, what they're gonna do
1:02:27
is they're gonna protect Bobby, So Bobby's gonna you know, spear, uh,
1:02:32
Bronson read and then you know, uh, Austin Harry's had come in,
1:02:38
hit the eight Town down and push Bobby Lashly out of the ring,
1:02:43
and then Bronson read's gonna take the pen. And it absolutely was predictable what
1:02:46
happened. So I saw it coming to Malaway as well, and it was
1:02:52
similar to I think the last time Bobby Lashly and Theory were in a triple
1:02:57
threat match for that very title. I think Bobby Lashly no, somebody had
1:03:01
I think Theory up for a suplex, Bobby Lashly hit the spear, they
1:03:06
fell on each other and there was a kind of got the wind just by
1:03:09
landing on top of it in a very sloppy finish. Its like again,
1:03:13
Yeah, Edge made his career on being the ultimate opportunist right like there is
1:03:21
a path for for snaky winds. Edge had great matches though Edge could still
1:03:28
have a great singles match with somebody and still had noteworthy wins too. Yeah,
1:03:35
oh yeah, he got none of them yet, and endows that come
1:03:37
at us when it comes to Edge. I know it. I feel it.
1:03:43
Me and Dre standing in our fu ground. Yeah. I don't hate
1:03:46
Edge. I just like Fristan better. Yeah, I mean, even if
1:03:51
nothing else Edge had, Edge got that, sup. Remember when Edge got
1:03:54
that surprise? Uh well, I don't think he got it? Did he
1:03:58
get us? No, it wasn't a surprise one over Triple h on raw
1:04:00
I think that. I think that was Jericho who at that? But Edge
1:04:03
had moments and Edge had his whole tag team career before he went on a
1:04:09
solo run, so he was good and established there. Yes, he just
1:04:14
ain't gotten none of that yet. And at some point, and to your
1:04:19
point about the heat he's getting where people roll their eyes and stuff like that,
1:04:27
Yeah, heat is some people might believe that any type of heat is
1:04:31
good heat I'm not necessarily of that of that of that belief. I think
1:04:39
there's I think there's a difference in here. I think there's invested heat and
1:04:45
go away heat, and I think theory. I think right now most of
1:04:50
the heat he get is I think it's leaning towards the ladder. I think
1:04:54
people boom them because they just don't give a shit about him, Like they're
1:04:57
just like they don't feel like being by with him, not because oh I
1:05:01
hate you and I'll yeah, people want to see him lose and stuff,
1:05:04
but because they're not invested. I don't think I think people. I think
1:05:10
if theory didn't show up on TV for three weeks, I don't think anybody
1:05:12
would care. As opposed to Dom, who people booth the living shit out
1:05:18
of and they want to see him get his ass kicked. People are invested
1:05:24
in wanting to see him get the shit kicked out of him. I think
1:05:28
people roll their eyes with about a theory because they're just like, dude,
1:05:30
what, you're not doing anything? What it's what? I think it's more
1:05:35
one of those type of reactions. I mean, I could be wrong,
1:05:39
but to me, at least, that's where I'm at with him, because
1:05:43
he's because again, he's not going anywhere. I'm certainly not willing to give
1:05:48
up on him yet. I think his feature is really bright still. Yeah,
1:05:53
yeah, sure, I'm not saying that I'm done with him where I'm
1:05:55
off giving up on him. I'm just like, give me a reason to
1:05:59
give a shit though. It's it's fair. What was motorcycle? Im it
1:06:09
idn't get into God damn it. Hey, So, I guess if we're
1:06:15
done with the Austin theory um discussion of the of the week, we can
1:06:23
move on to the next match. Anything but any Have I got anything else
1:06:26
to say? Absolutely not? All right, in that case, we'll move
1:06:31
on to the next match of the card, which was the SmackDown Women's Championship
1:06:36
match, which saw Ria Ripley the champion, taking on Zelina Vega. Now,
1:06:44
this one, right here, this was the emotional center of this entire
1:06:50
pay per view. The match itself, I won't go too long on to
1:06:57
match yourself, to match yourself pretty much was what we expected. Real was
1:07:01
dominant. She hit Delina with all the power moves. Selena got a little
1:07:05
bit of a comeback in her Real eventually shut it down. Hit the riptide,
1:07:11
got the win. I think that's pretty much standard fair and I think
1:07:14
that's pretty much what we all expected to happen. But that were not what
1:07:17
made this special. But made this special was the crowd. When we talk
1:07:24
about how much the crowd was into this pay per view and how the crowd
1:07:28
made this pay per view special, this match personifies it one thousand percent from
1:07:34
the sheer emotion of selina entrance, which again another fire outfit from Zealina.
1:07:40
She might be arguably one of the best dressed wrestlers on the tire roster when
1:07:45
it comes to ring attire, but the emotion of her entrance with that kate
1:07:50
that stretched out to show the Puerto Rican flag to her introduction and the crowd
1:07:58
going absolutely nuts for her during the introduction and props to a man at the
1:08:00
IRWIN because she she knew to pause after this Lena's introduction to allow the crowd
1:08:06
to give her that ovation. You could see the emotion on her face.
1:08:10
You can see how much admitt to her, how important this was to her
1:08:14
to perform in front of the Puerto Rican crowd, which is Lena has spoken
1:08:18
about it for before and mentioned how much this meant to her and how much.
1:08:25
It meant, it mattered that she perform in front of the crowd.
1:08:28
She's talked about her father, how her father was a huge wrestling fan and
1:08:33
used to always take her to wrestling matches when they when she was a kid
1:08:39
before her father tragically passed away, and not during nine to eleven. And
1:08:45
it's always been her passion and she's always been her dream to perform in front
1:08:49
of a Puerto Rican crowd. One day and she got her moment here and
1:08:54
it was it was absolutely touching. I was I was moved to tears during
1:09:00
this, during both the introduction and the ending afterwards when she performed, went
1:09:04
after after the match where she stood up and then the crowd just gave her
1:09:11
like almost like a two minute standing ovation where they were just cheering and giving
1:09:16
her all the praise in the world. You could see her being completely overwhelmed
1:09:21
with emotion and the crowd giving up the chant of yosas, which translates to
1:09:31
I Am Puerto Rican. Just so you know, which is a chant wells
1:09:38
known throughout the all Puerto Ricans. It's it's a it's a it's a thing
1:09:45
of pride with them. It's a it's a it might be a lame comparison,
1:09:49
but you could almost say it's almost like a Wakanda Forever type chant for
1:09:53
them. It's something that they say all the time at sporting events, at
1:09:57
any other major event. It's it's a round cry for Puerto Rican people all
1:10:00
around the world. And they showered her with that shint and you'd, like
1:10:04
I said, you could see the emotion on her face and you can see
1:10:08
how much it meantor and it was a truly it was a powerful moment.
1:10:14
Like I said, even I was moved to tears watching it. But um,
1:10:17
Wayne, what did you think of the match? A match for all
1:10:21
was was pretty good. I mean I get like three stars, uh three
1:10:27
out five. You know, this shish match kind of showed too that like
1:10:32
Celean Vega can hold a singles match in the ring. She hasn't won a
1:10:38
singles match in a very long time, believe her or not. She's been
1:10:42
winning tag matches. She doesn't won a singles match in a long time.
1:10:45
But yeah, we did discuss that last episode. You know, it's this
1:10:49
weird that somebody wasn't one matches a long time gets a title shot. Um,
1:10:55
you know, Natali gets it all the time, I guess. But
1:11:00
but her outfit was so awesome, like if we were on best dress,
1:11:04
hands down best dress for sure. For sure she liked hot as fucking too.
1:11:11
But I found it cool that Ria was wearing all white. You know,
1:11:15
she normally doesn't wear The last time I recall her wearing all white was
1:11:19
when she first Charlotte at WrestleMania three years ago. I think it's the last
1:11:26
time I saw her dress and all white. Um, so that was nice.
1:11:30
That was a nice different touch for her too. Um. I believe
1:11:33
Selena Vega's mother was in the front row. Yeah, I did, like
1:11:38
the one. Yeah, her mother is the one who ended her the flip
1:11:41
flop the flop. Yeah yeah. Explaining explained what the flip flop. They
1:11:47
said it was a local thing. But they didn't like explain what the thing
1:11:51
was. Did They did briefly. I mean, they didn't go into an
1:11:55
entire history lesson about it, but they did, like Michael Cole called it
1:12:00
something specific. I can't remember what specific term he used, but yeah,
1:12:02
they they did briefly touch on it. I mean he named he named it,
1:12:06
and he said, oh, this is a local thing, blah blah
1:12:09
blah. But he never said, like, he didn't say, oh,
1:12:12
the locals believe that if you throw a flip flop but someone they turn into
1:12:15
an elephant or whatever. He never said what the thing was. I don't
1:12:20
know. Sure. My my nerdy my nerdy history asked was like, what's
1:12:25
I want to know the story? Yeah, yeah, but again that's one
1:12:29
of those things that I think was just it was for the people. It
1:12:31
was, it was for the local people. So yeah, the rest of
1:12:34
us, you know, non Hispanic people might not fully understand that or appreciate
1:12:40
that, or maybe some your ass with a flip flop also yeah yeah,
1:12:44
Also, if you ever had, you know, a parent throw a shoe
1:12:46
at you, you know, you probably relate to it just on the strength
1:12:49
of that alone. Yeah. Oh yeah, uh, it's it's something that's
1:12:54
that's done here too. Because I used to have a very nice Puerto Rican
1:12:58
family down the street from my house and my friend m Martin, he would
1:13:02
get chased down the street by his mom with with a flip flop and she
1:13:05
she would whoop his ass with it. So when I I totally got it,
1:13:11
I totally understood. And you know, I'm not a Latino at all,
1:13:15
but I laughed at it because I totally get out. I was like,
1:13:17
man, I've seen my Spanish friends get their asses whoop with flip flops
1:13:21
by their own mothers, So I got it. I got a nice chuckle
1:13:25
out of that, my one little slight ripe with it. Though I kind
1:13:30
of wish she hadn't had just thrown it and that'd be the end of it.
1:13:32
I almost wish she would have like maybe ducked out of the way as
1:13:36
rear Rickley tried to like hit her in the corner and then real gets like
1:13:40
stuck in the corner between the ropes, and then she takes the flip flop
1:13:42
it just starts whooping her ass with it. I almost feel like that would
1:13:45
have been like a cooler moment than just throw it and move on. Oh
1:13:48
yeah, because you know, there's two of them, so you know,
1:13:50
after the first one was thrown, I was like, Okay, I've still
1:13:53
got another one. She's she's not gonna walk around with one one flip flop
1:13:56
on, right, She's gonna throw the other one. Right. Uh.
1:14:00
Yeah, I almost kind of wish they would have done that. But other
1:14:01
than that, yeah, that's a minor grape. Yeah. Uh but Yeah,
1:14:06
like the outfits overall, we're the best for this match. Her the
1:14:12
big flag cape was so cool, even though the view that we got from
1:14:18
the hard camera it looked like the flag was backwards, but you know when
1:14:23
she turns around, it was it was the proper way. But she looked
1:14:27
she looked pretty uh, as Rick Flair would say, you know where in
1:14:32
that outfit. Um, you know, she she did a lot, have
1:14:38
a lot of offense. But like even right as she was about to get
1:14:42
the rip Tide, Michael Cole even said, like, all right, she's
1:14:45
had enough of her and like basically picked up for the rip Tide. And
1:14:50
uh, I feel like there's like a guaranteed now every time Ria pins somebody
1:14:58
in that very very sexy position, it's guaranteed the three counts. It's been
1:15:06
something I've been catching on too. It's a guaranteed no kick out. So
1:15:14
uh, that's that's just her new thing, you know. Uh, you
1:15:16
know, I guess Dom gets the same treatment. Uh, but yeah,
1:15:25
three stars for me for this match. Hey Doyle, what are your thoughts?
1:15:31
Yeah, Zillion's entrance was fucking awesome. That was really cool. Um,
1:15:36
we're in all the judgment. They were in white. It was kind
1:15:40
of like their theme for the night. I think Rightest was wearing white,
1:15:45
wasn't it. Dame wore white, real war white. I didn't pay much
1:15:48
attention to what remember what Finn and Dom had because they I know, they
1:15:54
had their black T shirts over, so I don't remember what their pants were
1:15:57
whatever. Um yeah, I mean it's it's kind of, you know,
1:16:00
your ultimate hometown underdog story, you know. Uh, but kind of unlike
1:16:06
the Eo Sky Bianca bell Air match, I never really thought, oh my
1:16:12
god, they might actually have something Zelena win this one, whereas I did,
1:16:15
you know, I did kind of for a sack gad and think,
1:16:17
oh I might actually put the title on Eo here. Um, I guess
1:16:21
maybe a minor crib um. But I was kind of hoping for something more
1:16:29
from this match, you know. Uh, I was hoping for a little
1:16:32
more drama. Maybe Zelena came a little closer, you know. It just
1:16:38
it felt kind of flat for me. Actually, Um, the crowd,
1:16:42
you know, this is a this is a great example of a hot fucking
1:16:45
crowd making a kind of match. Seemed really great for me just because the
1:16:51
crowd was so into it, which isn't good for that. It was you
1:16:55
know, it wasn't bad by any means, It just wasn't. I was
1:16:58
expecting something really dramatic, and I kind of feel like we didn't get that.
1:17:03
But I do wish they would do more with Lena. You know,
1:17:06
Um, I'm not sure she's a main event player, but uh, if
1:17:11
we found her a tag team partner, I think there's a lot of fun
1:17:14
that could be had there. Um uh and uh, kudos. Uh.
1:17:20
I don't know her name, the woman that plays Rea Ripley, because I
1:17:27
think, you know, I don't think the character Rea Ripley would let h
1:17:31
the woman she just defeated, you know, get cheered or whatever after the
1:17:35
match or whatever. But I think the woman that portrays her, kudos to
1:17:40
her for just getting out of the way and letting that moment happen. You
1:17:44
know. Uh, if you ever see any shoot interviews with her, she
1:17:47
seems like such a fucking cool person. Um. So, I mean,
1:17:53
you know, hats off for for having them you know, the wherewithal to
1:17:58
just high tail it out of there and let her have her you know.
1:18:01
Ovation that was really cool. Um, but yeah, it was kind of
1:18:05
kind of a letdown. I thought two and a half stars. Yeah,
1:18:10
yeah, definite props to Ria for standing out for you know, stepping aside
1:18:15
after her getting her win and letting Selena have her a moment, which doesn't
1:18:19
really surprise me that much from Ria herself. Um I believe Ria and Selena
1:18:26
are pretty good friends outside of the rink. And the only reason why say
1:18:32
that is because um On Peacock under won all the w W programs they have.
1:18:41
They have the show called Table for Three. I'm not sure if y'all
1:18:44
have heard of some of those, right right. One of the episodes of
1:18:47
Table for Three that they have is an episode with Bianco bell Lair, Ria
1:18:53
Ripley, and Selena Vega. That's actually one of the episodes and them those
1:18:58
three sit there and they talk about their time back in NXT and them coming
1:19:02
up together and such. It all seemed like, again, like really close
1:19:08
outside of close friends outside of the ring. So it was really cool.
1:19:14
If you ever see an interview with her Atoca or whatever, she seems really
1:19:16
I mean, Bianca seems school too, but we're in particular, it seems
1:19:21
like she's really cool. Yeah, yeah, very much so. She has
1:19:26
she has a whole lot of personality in and out of the ring, and
1:19:29
she Yeah, like I said, she comes off as a very cool,
1:19:31
down to earth person. So my question to y'all is, do y'all think
1:19:38
the WWE will capitalize on this moment and possibly elevates Zelena to the next level?
1:19:44
And do you think she has what it takes to take advantage of this
1:19:46
moment? And similar to the Bianca and Eo situation, do you think the
1:19:54
crowds when we get back to the States, do you think the American crowds
1:19:58
will start to get behind Zelena? Though Doyle you can go first, I
1:20:02
think, uh, I think it's more likely that's Lena will benefit. We'll
1:20:08
get more of a carryover, uh, in terms of warmth from the crowd
1:20:15
than Eo. Well. Um, but in terms of her I just I
1:20:20
just don't see her as a as a as a championship contender, as a
1:20:26
you know, a main eventor um. Yeah, no, don't don't be
1:20:30
wrong. I think should be great in a tag division. I would like
1:20:32
to see her wrestle more. I think she's a good wrestler for sure.
1:20:36
I think she would be somebody that would benefit greatly from a a mid card
1:20:43
women's title, which we've talked about it quite a bit, right, She's
1:20:46
she's a perfect example of somebody that would that I could see when when when
1:20:50
in that kind of title. Um yeah, yeah. Don't get me wrong
1:20:55
When I say next level, I don't mean like immediately jumping to being women's
1:20:59
champion. Con I met like being like a strong mid card or somebody that
1:21:02
we actually see more. Yeah, yeah, I would really like to see
1:21:08
her be a more prominent performer certainly. Yeah, Wayne, where you at
1:21:15
on it? I mean yeah, I mean right now, she's the hottest
1:21:18
she's been. I mean, gimmick wise that then she's been a long time.
1:21:25
I mean they have, They've given her the road before where she was
1:21:30
taxiing champions with Carmela for a hot minute, she was Queen of the Ring,
1:21:35
and now she's part of like one of the most popular stables right now
1:21:40
with the highest selling merchandise. So it's like, you know, and don't
1:21:45
let her size fully. We've seen small champions like Alexa Bliss. You know,
1:21:49
it's when it comes to women, it's not they. Vince doesn't necessarily
1:21:54
always like pick the big, strong women to be champions. Not all the
1:21:59
time. Um, I mean Alexi Bliss had a great run and she's a
1:22:02
very small person. Was champion last year, ye live Morgan as well.
1:22:06
So I toldly see it, like, I mean, she's just got to
1:22:12
keep her character hot, like you know now that I mean she did lose,
1:22:16
but like going forward, put her if you can put her in some
1:22:21
singles matches, put her in some put let her get some ws on her
1:22:26
own. Um. You know, you could put her in all these mixed
1:22:29
tag matches and stuff, but you know you're not gonna take her as a
1:22:31
serious contender until she starts getting some her own w's. Um. You know,
1:22:38
it seems she's better right now as a face and she was a heel
1:22:42
uh I was Queen of the right. Yeah, I mean, like they've
1:22:47
never pushed her before, right, But but the thing is just like I
1:22:53
think it's because she got injured, but there was there was a small window
1:22:56
where like after she got Queen of the Ring, they kind of didn't do
1:23:00
anything with it afterwards. And but in her defense, that's how it is
1:23:04
with all the queen or King of the Rings, like you know, the
1:23:08
second you get that crown. Recently, it just seems like you know,
1:23:12
I think after Shamus may have been the last person to or Baron Cordman to
1:23:16
run that gimmick to the ground, like as being like the king for a
1:23:20
year or so. You know, I think notably Best Book or t did
1:23:26
it that way, and it kind of, yeah, King Book, it
1:23:30
kind of you know, changed his character of a bit, and you know,
1:23:35
maybe they should have just done that for a while, ran her as
1:23:39
the queen for for a lot longer. But I know she got injured and
1:23:42
then she had to leave for a while, and you know that probably put
1:23:46
pump the brakes on that. But hell, yeah, like ride this momentum.
1:23:55
As long as she stays with the LWO, I think she'll be just
1:24:00
fine. Now, King or Queen of the Wing Ring. King or Queen
1:24:05
of the Ring may not be the thing for her to, might not be
1:24:13
the proper vehicle to take her to the next level. But there is something
1:24:15
coming up on the WW calendar that might be a prime, prime opportunity to
1:24:23
elevate, to elevate Zelena to the next level. Huh elevate no pun intended,
1:24:31
right, And that would be money in the bank. Yeah, I
1:24:36
think I think Zelena right now is a early odds on candidate early odds on
1:24:46
favorite to possibly win that between her, at least between her and EO Sky,
1:24:51
I think we could, Yeah, I think pencil both of them in
1:24:54
there, right all right? If WW smart they have already booked both of
1:24:58
those two for that match whenever, whenever that pay per view comes up this
1:25:03
summer, I think that's a prime opportunity. The next next real step in
1:25:09
Zelena's ascension, if they're going to put her, if they're going to elevate
1:25:13
her to the next level, which again it starts with how the crowds react
1:25:17
to her when she gets back to the States, which again another reason why
1:25:21
I'm really looking forward to this Friday SmackDown. I think this Friday, this
1:25:26
Friday SmackDown, I think is going to tell us a lot in terms of,
1:25:29
especially in the women's division, where certain what direction certain characters are going
1:25:33
to go. That's why I think she's going to get more benefit from being
1:25:39
insanely over in Puerto Rico because it was more personal with her, you know,
1:25:44
whereas they were just into EO. Because they were in the EO,
1:25:46
it wasn't like a deep connection thing like it was with Zelena. And I
1:25:51
think that's that, you know, that kind of crossover with the audience translates
1:25:57
more elsewhere, I think than a crowd is into somebody on a given night
1:26:01
because they're into them. Not to say that I don't think EO can get
1:26:06
baby face heat, because I think you will. But I think that because
1:26:12
it's so personal. You know, she was, you know, in tears
1:26:17
during just during the introductions, you know, and that resonates with the audience.
1:26:23
I think in a way that whatever happened with EO just can't compete with
1:26:29
Yeah. Yeah, that definitely that man um. I would love to pick
1:26:33
Ria Ripley's brain about that moment and ask her how she felt standing in the
1:26:39
ring during that reaction and how she managed the one. Props to her for
1:26:43
staying in character and not getting not showing any emotions that reaction. I know
1:26:47
that had to have been hard, especially for you know, again someone knows
1:26:53
who's her friend and seeing that reaction and yet Ria just stood there, just
1:26:57
stone faced. So props her for standing character. But I would love to
1:27:01
know what her thoughts were as she's standing in the ring seeming Zelena to get
1:27:04
that kind of reaction. Yeah, I mean she man, she is really
1:27:09
tracking to be an all time great uh Ria Ripley. She is just every
1:27:15
everything she does is fucking great. Really, She's really on all cylinders and
1:27:20
has been for a while. Agree. Yeah, she's tracking for for you
1:27:29
know, just just you know her. And I hope her and Bianca or
1:27:32
like rivals we see them for the next five, seven and ten years whatever
1:27:38
it is. Yeah, I'm with you on that. And ww's content team
1:27:42
needs to stop bullshitting and upload the video of the backstage because I want to
1:27:47
see in addition to hearing what Real's thoughts were in that moment, I want
1:27:54
to see some footage of backstage when SELENAA got backstage, when she comes back,
1:28:00
right when she went back through the guerrilla area and that moment, because
1:28:02
you know, they recorded, you know, those kids everywhere and they got
1:28:05
it. And Selena gave a very heart felt Instagram post the next day after
1:28:15
the show, just thanking everyone involved in it and sharing her emotions about it
1:28:19
and how much it had meant to her, and you know, saying she
1:28:23
was she was still in tears to the next day, just so overwhelmed with
1:28:27
it. And she mentioned how Triple H backstage said that he was proud of
1:28:31
her and how much that meant her because she as she said, he was
1:28:36
said, he said, I'm so proud of you, and she was.
1:28:39
He was saying it to her directly to her, not just you know,
1:28:44
an overall thing like oh, proud of all of you, like great work,
1:28:45
everybody. Know, it was personalized to her that he was proud of
1:28:49
her and how much that meant to her. And no amount of writers or
1:28:55
producers or whatever ken write a story better than reality sometimes exactly exactly, especially
1:29:06
just you know, it's just better than anything you can possibly make up.
1:29:13
And especially for these for this crop of you know, Triple H is probably
1:29:19
like like a father, like a godfather type figure to them because he was
1:29:25
the one who championed them. He was the one who was spearheading and xt
1:29:28
when all of them were you know, coming up, when they were starting
1:29:31
out and forging their paths into w W. So you know, when he
1:29:35
about regal, he's back now you know, and yeah, bright hand and
1:29:41
uh yeah, out of their development. Yeah yeah, But I'm just saying,
1:29:45
like, you know, hit them hearing it from Triple As, I'm
1:29:48
pretty sure it means a whole lot more than if they heard it from like
1:29:51
vents. Sure, Yeah, sure, yeah, because you know they have
1:29:56
that because again they have that deeper connection to Vents, I mean to Triple
1:30:00
from the NXT stuff, so you know, when he said something to him,
1:30:03
it means something much more to him, and I want to see that
1:30:06
stuff. I want to see those moments on film Australia. Let's call her
1:30:13
Kelly Kangaroo, right like that That's been stuff. So yeah, Um,
1:30:21
any final thoughts on the uh match or the moments? No, they yeah,
1:30:27
they get seven minutes in ten seconds, I mean, like, uh,
1:30:32
not that much longer than the Triple Threat match. So it seemed like
1:30:36
those two matches, they they were kind of hustling. So the next three
1:30:43
we could have could get some fucking time, but typical, Yeah, they
1:30:48
did kind of short. I felt that match fell short. I was really
1:30:53
expecting it better. I thought it was gonna be more dramatic, and that
1:30:57
kind of wasn't I didn't think yep yep. Look after this match, we
1:31:03
got the main event of the entire pay per view and the San Juan Street
1:31:11
Fright st Fright San Juan Street Fight featuring Damian Priest versus Bad Bunny, and
1:31:17
this match here was the best match of the night. Overall to me,
1:31:25
like by a pretty long shot. Yeah, Bad Bunny clearly got the biggest
1:31:30
pop of the night when he came out. That whole stadium basically turned into
1:31:34
a concert, with the whole crowd just screaming at the top of their lungs
1:31:39
every word of his song. And I call this match to the main event
1:31:45
because for all intentsive purposes, it was, and it damn well should have
1:31:48
been the main event. It should have been the final card on the match.
1:31:53
I don't know who the hell thought that this, that there should have
1:31:56
been two born matches after this, because like what like they could have put
1:32:00
anything on after it wouldn't have been like, uh yeah, like this right,
1:32:05
this is like it's like they understood the moment so much in the rear
1:32:10
Ripley Zelena Vega match by letting Zelena have her moment, you know, during
1:32:14
the introduction and after the match, and then completely missed the moment by putting
1:32:18
this match on and too instead of spreading it out right, you know,
1:32:24
like right, completely exhausted, completely drained the audience of everything. By the
1:32:29
time the six man tag, the crowd is just spent. Yeah, they're
1:32:35
spent, They're invested like we got a weekend exactly. Yeah, this was
1:32:43
This was poor scheduling on somebody's part. I don't know who. I don't
1:32:46
know if Vince stepped in at the last and it said, nah, Cody
1:32:50
versus Brock, that's the main event. That's what they're all here for.
1:32:54
Like, no, the fuck they ain't. But anyway, that aside um
1:33:00
to match yourself, bad Bunny again, he looked great in the ring.
1:33:03
You have to you have to commend this guy for his commitment to performing in
1:33:09
the ring and not just riding on the strength of being a celebrity. He
1:33:14
clearly puts the work in to actually come off as a legitimate wrestler in the
1:33:19
ring and at least capable enough to pull off moves, to take bumps,
1:33:24
and to look not look like some lost child in the ring who's having to
1:33:29
be guided everywhere and told what to do. He does it. He gave
1:33:32
his all to put on a great show, including taking an absolutely sick bump
1:33:36
outside the ring through tables and ships between him and Damian Priests like that was
1:33:44
insane, and you know, taking Kendle stick shots, taking chair shots.
1:33:46
He gave it all, and not only did he do it, you gotta
1:33:51
give props to Damian Priests as well. He performed as well. I know,
1:33:58
I know he was proud to form in front of his Puerto Rican crowd,
1:34:02
in front of his people, because he is also of Puerto Rican descent
1:34:05
and you know, grew up in Puerto Rico. I mean he mentioned that,
1:34:11
um in interviews leading into the pay per view of how much this meant
1:34:15
to him and kind of a kind of childhood friends or is that just part
1:34:21
of the story, Uh that I don't know, I don't child friends or
1:34:29
not that I don't that I do not know. Just yeah, but um,
1:34:34
I'm sure this meant just as much to him as it did. It's
1:34:38
a bad Bundy to perform. It's kind of unfortunate that he had to be
1:34:41
a heel so he couldn't, you know, he couldn't receive that same level
1:34:45
of praise and and and adulation as Lena Vega did. But nevertheless, he
1:34:50
went out there and he performed and did his job and looked incredibly good.
1:34:58
And it seems as if, just like with Omasson, seems that WW officials
1:35:04
are also taking notice of Damian Priest and his work that he's been putting in
1:35:10
for the last few months. Excuse me. Yeah. According to p w
1:35:15
Insider, they he's really been impressing WB officials with his work and it seems
1:35:21
that they apparently now see him as a quote top level player in the WWE
1:35:28
moving forward, which means we could possibly start seeing Damian Priest featured in the
1:35:34
main event scene possibly going forward, which is good for him. So my
1:35:41
question to y'all is, is Damian Priest now a main event player? Wayne?
1:35:48
Let's start with you, what do you think of the match itself overall?
1:35:51
And also do you think Damian Priest is now made event level player?
1:35:58
I agree, Man, match of the Knife for me like four point five
1:36:00
out of five, Like it was such a great match, A huge fucking
1:36:06
pop for this guy when he came out, huge huge pop and uh,
1:36:12
you know local hometown boy, I guess right, I mean the crowd on
1:36:17
fucking nuts for him. I did like that he brought He brought out a
1:36:24
grocery cart full of more weapons. I mean we saw everything from a kendo
1:36:29
sticks, steel chairs, trash candle its full trash cans, going through stack
1:36:33
of tables. We saw steel chain, we saw an axe handle, which
1:36:39
was so fucking weird, like you know, not a not a sledgehammer,
1:36:44
just an axe handle. Ye use it, but it was still gonna wrestling
1:36:49
weapon before has it? Like I never recalled any two K game where I
1:36:55
reached under the ring and grabbed an axe handle it before. I'm just surprised
1:37:00
they didn't use it though, Like David Priest grabbed it and teased it,
1:37:03
but then just chucked it away right right. Um. I was kind of
1:37:09
surprised that he was able to get Damian Priest up twice for a mission mission
1:37:13
Nuku driver. Uh. And then there was a point where uh, Damian
1:37:19
Priests could have picked him and he didn't do it. I was like,
1:37:23
you yelled out, you fool, You're silly. It never works out,
1:37:28
It never works right. Uh. I mean he paid for it later.
1:37:32
I mean he took a he took a brutal beating. Uh. You know,
1:37:36
he even gave a Priest modified Falcon arrow. Like like I said,
1:37:42
I was surprised that he was able to lift him because Priest isn't a small
1:37:44
guy. Priest is a pretty large guy. Um. You know, props
1:37:47
to bad Bunny by going through stacked tables and then you know, Damian Priest
1:37:53
picked his ass up and carried them all the way back to the ring.
1:37:57
Uh. I have a bunch of notes for this match, you know.
1:38:00
Uh. You know, bat Bunny kept to the working on the one body
1:38:04
part. You know, he was working on Damian Priest's knee after he was
1:38:08
able to hyper extend it. You know, then he he dragged him outside
1:38:12
to the ring post and like really wrenched on that knee with you know,
1:38:15
with the chain and everything. And even here Damian Priests like no, no,
1:38:17
no, bro, bro, bro Man, come on buddy, no
1:38:20
no, no, no, you know it doesn't anyway, right, yeah,
1:38:24
great rings psychology, Yeah great great. Uh. You know then I
1:38:30
as I expected, we got tons of interference, you know, we got
1:38:33
we got Ray Stereo came out, which, by the way, Ray must
1:38:36
have had like three masks during this entire pay per view, because he had
1:38:40
like a promo backstage and he had a different mask on, you know,
1:38:44
you're like the Batman one, and then he came out and this one looked
1:38:47
like he looked like sharp Boy for a second from Impact Wrestling. Uh uh.
1:38:53
And then for me, I think we called this, you know,
1:38:58
but for me, the the biggest pop was when we got heard I spit
1:39:03
in the face of people who don't want to be cool. Guys, how
1:39:11
long has it been since you heard that theme song? It's been a long
1:39:17
not that long, like three years ago. Yeah, he was rubble right,
1:39:24
Yeah, a couple like a couple of years ago. But like,
1:39:27
but this was different. This was different. This, this definitely was different.
1:39:30
Uh. The huge fucking pop for him, you know, I did.
1:39:35
I like the uh where he was able to spit the apple in Dom's
1:39:40
face, like out of all people to do it too. Dom, well
1:39:43
he had he had the apple in his mouth for a long time too,
1:39:46
because he took the bite and then like did like there were like four wrestling
1:39:51
moves. Yeah, that thing was good. And I was thinking, I
1:39:59
was thinking, oh, I guess you're not gonna get the spit or then
1:40:01
I'm then I'm thinking, oh, if we do, whoever was taking it
1:40:05
is getting like some fucking even more nasty than it usually probably and like,
1:40:11
thank god it was dumb. I was happy. If all people have taken
1:40:14
to the face, it was dumb. He took some apple sauce to the
1:40:16
face. Uh. And then you know you get judgment day, you know,
1:40:23
retreating. You know, they of course they're going to come in and
1:40:26
interfere, you know. Um. But once they started retreating to the back,
1:40:30
and like you said, Doyle, like they kind of ruined it by
1:40:32
having him, you know backstage, Like was it really necessary to give him
1:40:36
that Kendo stick? Like, couldn't he just come out with that Cando stick
1:40:40
already? Like yeah, he could have come out in the match, And
1:40:43
I told him, yeah, it was just so unnecessary. But like the
1:40:46
crowd pop for it. You know, Savie Obega came out and uh,
1:40:51
you know, I like how Finn was like laughing at him when he saw
1:40:55
him. He's like, oh, fifty year old Saviobega, Like, I'm
1:40:59
not worried, you know, And he got a few moves in, you
1:41:01
know, he got the crowd gone, and then the LWO came out and
1:41:04
then it was six on two six on two fellas, Oh my god,
1:41:14
yeah, the god they got their asses. Me. Was it necessary?
1:41:16
Probably not, but it was for the crowd, I get it. And
1:41:19
the crowd fucking loved it. You know. Meanwhile, while all that ship
1:41:24
was going on, don Uh Damien Priest and uh, you know Bad Bunny
1:41:28
were able to you know, relax for a big catch their breath. Uh,
1:41:34
but you know, he tried to finish him off with the figure four.
1:41:39
Uh, and you know, and Damien was able to get out of
1:41:42
it. I thought, this is I thought Damian Priests was for sure gonna
1:41:45
tap out after he's been working that leg for so long, but uh,
1:41:48
he was able to get the I think they called the Bunny Destroyer for for
1:41:54
the pen um. You know, as of now, it looks like Bad
1:41:58
Bunny is i know what like two and oh three and oh right now something
1:42:01
like that. He's on a winning streak. Um. You know, definitely
1:42:05
props his Damian Priest for being able to help Bad Bunny throughout this entire match
1:42:13
and look making it look real good. It's make you know, selling the
1:42:15
injuries pretty well. Uh, being able to you know, not hurt this
1:42:21
guy. Like you know, this guy he's not a full time wrestler.
1:42:25
He's still uh a Grammy Award winning you know, artists, so like,
1:42:31
you can't you can't damage this guy, and uh, this is did a
1:42:35
fine job with it. You know. There isn't many people that we've seen
1:42:40
throughout the couple past couple of years that come out of the company into the
1:42:44
company to wrestle and put on a good show. We you know, I'll
1:42:46
put Bad Bunny up there with Logan Paul and Pat McAfee, you know,
1:42:51
you know, got up there on the list with like you know, Snooky
1:42:56
and stuff. You know, definitely not on that list. I mean,
1:42:59
hell it is Dog got to win recently, you know, as a former
1:43:01
w W champion. But there's a difference between how Bad Bunny looks in the
1:43:09
ring and how Snoop Dog looks trying to do a people's elbow. Yes.
1:43:13
Uh, this match went off for exactly twenty five minutes, and it was
1:43:16
a great twenty five minutes. I was. I was into the match the
1:43:20
whole time. I didn't look away. I didn't even have my phone out,
1:43:24
you know. I took a shiploaded notes, but like I kept like
1:43:29
having to uh like I was distracted, you know from I didn't want to
1:43:33
take notes. I went into this. You know, this match had me
1:43:36
in the whole time, you know, and asked for Damian preets like as
1:43:42
a main event star. He I you know, Judgment Day has definitely risen
1:43:48
his character. He needs to hold a mid card title, I think at
1:43:56
some point. Again he has before and he kind of all short with it.
1:44:00
It didn't last very long, but I think, you know, now
1:44:03
it would be a good time to do a mid card run with him again.
1:44:09
I think for main events that this guy needs a lot more time on
1:44:13
the mic, a lot more practice on the mic. He's We've seen it
1:44:16
week after week of him flubbing his lines, and you know, Finn Balor
1:44:21
is no better, you know, and obviously it Dominic shits his pants every
1:44:25
time he gets a microphone in his hands sometimes, but out of you know,
1:44:30
I think David Priest has a lot of fucking potential and being in a
1:44:35
singles match like this definitely showed it to people who probably didn't believe before,
1:44:41
and now you should believe. You know. There's a lot of wrestlers like
1:44:45
that where you're just you're really good on the ring, but and you have
1:44:49
a good gimmick, but sometimes you're not being good on the mic. Is
1:44:51
what can hold you back? I mean, Baron Cordman, I felt it
1:44:55
was like that at some point, you know, a great wrestler, but
1:44:58
he's not always great on the on the mic um and maybe that's something that
1:45:02
also held a guy like that back as well. It goes the other way
1:45:05
too. Yeah, yeah, it has a great on the mic and the
1:45:11
Oh absolutely, dude, absolutely, it can go either way, but you
1:45:15
need to have you need to have both of those. You need to have
1:45:16
a gimmick. You need to be good in the ring, and you need
1:45:19
to be good on the mic. And if you don't have those three things,
1:45:23
I mean you just it's not gonna work. It's not work. You
1:45:27
gotta have that personality. You gotta have that factor exactly. Um. So
1:45:31
yeah, for four point five out of five for me, all right,
1:45:36
Noel, you're up. Yeah. Um, Bunny's entrance is great. Uh.
1:45:45
You know, I love the New Jack reference with the the shopping cart
1:45:49
full of weapons there. I can't believe mentioned New Jack two episodes in a
1:45:55
row. Um, but you know, you gotta hand it to had Bunny,
1:46:00
Samon Logan, Paul. You know, unlike mister T before them.
1:46:04
Uh, you know, they're not just getting in there doing punch, kick,
1:46:06
clothesline, body slam. He's doing fucking as we said, um mission
1:46:13
ushue drivers. You know, he's taking fucking falcon eras through tables. You
1:46:17
know. Uh. We had a conversation a couple episodes ago about whether or
1:46:23
not you know the use of celebrities was worth it or not. I think,
1:46:29
especially since that conversation, I think it's resounding yes. Um, you
1:46:34
know. And if you're worried about is he taking somebody's roster spot or whatever,
1:46:39
who on the roster could have had a bigger moment there, you know,
1:46:45
I don't. I don't think there is one, not one person,
1:46:48
so um uh, Carlino should definitely come back. I think I thought this
1:46:56
last time we saw him at the Royal Rumbo a couple of years ago.
1:46:59
Dude looks jacked as fuck and he's actually um, you know, back during
1:47:04
his first run, um, you know, he's like an average size guy,
1:47:10
but now the kind of windows swung the other way a little bit now
1:47:14
and an end that he's gotten a little bigger. He's now actually kind of
1:47:16
a pretty big tune. So I think he might have one run left in
1:47:23
him. That might be fun. I'm kind of glad that the finish wasn't
1:47:27
just all the baby faces hitting their finish on the heel and then the guy
1:47:32
coming in and pinned them. You know, Um, all the interference kind
1:47:38
of didn't really interfere with the match. You know, it always kind of
1:47:44
sucks when when, especially when a celebrity match or whatever, when all the
1:47:47
good guys hitting the finishers on the bad guys, what leads to the celebrity
1:47:53
eventually winning. And that's not really what happened here. So it was kind
1:47:58
of like a good use of interference, uh, whereas maybe in the Damage
1:48:02
Control match, who saw bad use of interference? Um? But yeah,
1:48:08
man, really fun. Uh, this is the kind of match you show
1:48:14
to people that don't watch wrestling, you know what I mean, you say,
1:48:16
like, look, this is this is like, this is what's fun,
1:48:21
you know what I mean. Absolutely should have been the main event.
1:48:27
I mean, how how silly not to have I mean, I don't know
1:48:30
who whose decision that was ultimately, but god who I mean. And we'll
1:48:36
talk about obviously the next match, which was great, but fuck anything would
1:48:43
have been brutal following that, you know, especially the following the two matches
1:48:46
before that. It just don't make any sense to pok it like that in
1:48:50
those spots to me. Um, but yeah, Damian Creed, Damian Priest
1:48:58
did a great job. You don't see enough heels begging, you know,
1:49:01
and he was begging, you know. Rick Flair used to do that all
1:49:04
the time. It just makes it looks like such a pussy. Uh,
1:49:09
It's it's great. Um yeah, but I mean you see these you know,
1:49:16
most notably Bunny and Logan Paul coming in and granted they have the benefit
1:49:21
of having a couple of weeks or maybe even a couple of months to prepare
1:49:27
for one specific match, whereas the main roster people, you know, having
1:49:32
with house shows, having four or five six matches a week, you know
1:49:36
whatever. So in that respect, of course that if you have the athletic
1:49:45
ability, you know, you should be able to put on a great match.
1:49:48
But it's I don't think it's that easy, you know. I think
1:49:51
a lot goes into it. I think these celebs that come in and take
1:49:55
it seriously, I think they were extremely hard U And I'm sure we haven't
1:50:01
seen bad Bunny in the ring for the last time. Uh he did.
1:50:08
Uh what's the who's the chubby British late night host? Uh? He does
1:50:14
the singing in the car? Oh Um. James Corbyn, he had Bad
1:50:19
Money on and and Bad Money was talking about how the wrestling Romania match he
1:50:25
had was the greatest moment of his life and they played like a laugh track
1:50:30
over it like it was supposed to be funny, but he was dead and
1:50:32
fucking serious. Uh, and this guy doesn't need to fucking do this shit,
1:50:38
right, Like what did we say this? Uh? This week he
1:50:41
was at the met Galla and he was at something else huge yeah yeah,
1:50:45
and then he's going through fucking tables for you know, for ten fighting some
1:50:50
dude you know, um yeah, yeah, he went from Coachella to the
1:50:56
Metallo. That's how it was. Yeah, Like I mean, and it
1:51:00
kind of goes to tell you about how fractured pop culture is anymore, right,
1:51:04
Like I don't know how to help, Like I never The only thing
1:51:09
I know about Bad The only reason I ever would know about Bad Money is
1:51:12
because he was on w w ETV and I guess he made a music video
1:51:17
and in the middle of it just stops and talks about how much how fucked
1:51:20
up Puerto Rico or the United States treat to Puerto Rico after the last hurricane
1:51:26
or something like that. It's just like an fifteen minute in from hershall about
1:51:30
that, which I think is awesome, good for him, but other that
1:51:33
he's not on my radar screen and you know where, and apparently it's like
1:51:39
if Michael Jackson had been at WrestleMania too, you know, like I guess
1:51:43
that's how like it's that big and for me, I don't know who the
1:51:45
hell it is, but how many eyes must have been on this? It
1:51:49
would never have been on it before. And like I said, this is
1:51:53
the kind of thing you show people to go wrestling stupid. I go,
1:51:56
oh, yeah, well why don't you watch this and see what you think
1:51:59
of it? You know, because it's not your typical wrestling match, right,
1:52:05
But man, how fun was this? Yeah? It's great, just
1:52:09
four stars, best thing in the card. And that's saying a lot because
1:52:13
Bank was cool. It was real good. Yep. Um So do you
1:52:17
think Damian Priest is now a main event player moving forward? Um? No,
1:52:25
And I'll tell you I have a specific reason why. Somebody I think,
1:52:28
I guess Wayne said something about him getting a mid card title, right,
1:52:30
well he's on Raw. Who has that mid card title? Gunther?
1:52:34
Do you see Damian Priest beating Gunter? I don't, uh, maybe not
1:52:40
beating him, but I could see him giving him one hell of a match.
1:52:44
All right, But until you can beat Gunter, I don't think you're
1:52:46
a main ventor right, you know, Yeah, I hear you. I
1:52:50
wouldn't. Honestly, I would not compete with pretty big hill to climb.
1:52:56
Yeah, but like I said, I would not completely rule it out.
1:52:59
I honestly would not. I think if if anybody could be the person to
1:53:02
eventually be Guilter, I think Damian Priest has the potential to do it.
1:53:08
Maybe now, maybe not, Like next week they booked the match and Damian
1:53:11
Priest wins. No, but could Damian could I see Damian Priests elevate himself
1:53:16
by like SummerSlam to be in a position to take out Guilter. I don't
1:53:21
think that's necessarily as far fetched as somebody think. Well, and somebody's gonna
1:53:28
have to do it eventually, exactly somebody. She's gonna have to take out
1:53:33
Gulter. Well, I think he's got he's uh, he's currently in three
1:53:40
thirty three. He's Honky's at four or fifty four, So he's got he's
1:53:45
gotta wastes to go if he's in the cat Honkey, Um, I'm sure
1:53:48
he'll Yeah, I'm sure he'll do that before he drops the title. So
1:53:51
if we gotta wait, we gotta waste to go, we gotta go out,
1:53:54
so maybe not something twenty five days yet, so let's have like four
1:53:58
months five yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, probably that takes us into
1:54:01
to the fall, so maybe surproper series she'll see. Yeah, all right,
1:54:10
any final thoughts on this match? Yeah, I mean, Jesus Christ,
1:54:14
why wasn't this the main event that right? The rest of this match,
1:54:19
the rest of the night, just because this is such a high high
1:54:25
exactly, I would love to say right now that all right, and that
1:54:28
does it for back last year. We'll take a break and come back and
1:54:30
talk about the said last on the on the pre show. I expect this
1:54:34
pay per view to end with a bunch of people in LWO shirts in the
1:54:39
ring celebrate it. And that's what we got. But that's what I thought
1:54:43
the end, the last shot was gonna be right and speaking to that moment
1:54:47
um when they when they all did celebrate with bad Bunny and put them on
1:54:50
the shoulders and you know, take them out the ring. Damian Priests were
1:54:54
still at ring side when all this happened. He was just sitting he was
1:54:58
saying, yeah they cut one shot two him where he was just sitting there
1:55:00
looking defeated, you know, not like smiling, was starting any real emotion
1:55:03
or anything, just looking defeated. But he was still there at ringside,
1:55:08
just sitting on the ground. And then they think, you know, no
1:55:13
Real left real, But I meant and let him have the moment, right,
1:55:16
but he was kind of more connected to it. I wanted to see
1:55:19
it from right right, right right. But what I'm saying is that Real
1:55:23
left and left Selena and the ring to have a moment, and then they
1:55:28
cut away to commercials and Damian Priest's case, he was still at ringside and
1:55:32
still there when with the celebration with Bad Bunny and then as Bad Bunny was
1:55:38
leaving the ring and stuff, then they cut away and Damian Priest was still
1:55:43
presumably still at ringside. So I wonder if during the commercial break when Damian
1:55:48
Priest went to leave, I wonder if he got an ovation from the Puerto
1:55:51
Rican crowd then, and they just you know, obviously didn't show it on
1:55:56
camera for you know, obvious reasons for being a hell. I don't know,
1:56:00
yes, I guess skipping ahead a little bit, but Brock got a
1:56:04
big ovation after the match, and and that footage leaked out. I saw
1:56:11
that, and I don't recall seeing the same for the moment you're talking about,
1:56:17
but it's certainly possible. Yeah, I would like I was just wondering
1:56:20
about it, but um, I guess that doesn't for that match. So
1:56:25
we could move on to the you know, post man event matches, starting
1:56:31
with the six man tag team match featuring the Bloodline members Jimmy and Jay Usso
1:56:39
and Solo Sekoia Sakoa taking on the team of Matt Riddle and our undisputed tag
1:56:45
team champions Kevin Owens and Sammy Zane. And this match, from my opinion,
1:56:53
it was a good match. I'm not I'm not gonna stay here and
1:56:56
that like the match wasn't good. It was a good match. These guys
1:56:59
came out there eight before and we saw excellent spots back and forth action and
1:57:03
all that stuff, and you know, plenty of tension and all that stuff.
1:57:08
But for me, it was pretty much just typical run of the mill
1:57:12
stuff that we've come to expect from the USO's and ko and Sammy's. Ain't
1:57:16
like, I don't know that they did anything new in this match or we
1:57:20
saw anything different. Where the crux of this match was where all the interest
1:57:27
in this match was for me was in the interpersonal drama going on within the
1:57:31
Bloodline, and that seems to become that seems to be like the typical what
1:57:41
the standard fair is now in Bloodline matches. The matches are what they are.
1:57:45
They pretty much go how we expect them to go. They're not gonna
1:57:49
be terrible matches. You're gonna get excellent wrestling and performance. But the real
1:57:54
drama of the match isn't so much in the outcome or whether somebody's gonna win
1:57:59
or lose, but more so and what story is going on with the Bloodline
1:58:03
and how's that story going to play out through the match, And that was
1:58:06
pretty much the case here. Admittedly, I was actually surprised that the Bloodline
1:58:12
won the match. I thought that they were going to give it to the
1:58:14
Faces and use the loss to further the Bloodline storyline, but no, they
1:58:18
the Bloodline actually won, So that kind of surprised me, although probably should
1:58:26
have seen it coming because Solo penned Riddle, and given all the participants in
1:58:30
the match, that's kind of the outcome that made the most sense, because
1:58:35
Riddle was kind of was the sacrificial lamb, Like you don't want any of
1:58:39
the tag team champions getting pinned because you know they're the champs. You don't
1:58:43
want the USO's getting pinned because you know they're the kind of the top guys,
1:58:47
and you know or you know, former tag champions, and you dam
1:58:51
show don't want Solo getting pinned because you know he's supposed to look like a
1:58:56
beast, and very few people have pin Solo. In fact, the only
1:58:59
person to do it so far as been Cody, So yeah, when you
1:59:02
think about it, yeah, Riddle was kind of the only one that made
1:59:04
sense to take a loss while keeping everybody else strong, So I guess I
1:59:10
shouldn't have been surprised, but I still nevertheless was surprised that the Bloodline won
1:59:16
the match. But again, the drama of the match was the inner personal
1:59:23
drama between specifically Jay and Solo and the riff going on between those two.
1:59:30
So I'm assuming that that's I guess that's gonna be our main Bloodline storyline moving
1:59:36
forward. Since Roman is pretty much part time, it's gonna be. We
1:59:40
honestly don't know when the hell the next time we're gonna see Roman on TV
1:59:44
again. So yes, like I said, the match itself was was part
1:59:50
for the course, and it's typical good match quality. Like I said again,
1:59:55
it wasn't a bad match. It just it just didn't do any think
2:00:00
different from what we've seen before. So I give the match three stars.
2:00:03
Um, uh, Wayne, what do you think of a match? Oh?
2:00:12
You know what, Like I give it like a three and a half
2:00:15
stars. Um, it's your typical sixth person match. I mean, what
2:00:20
really was the The main thing about this match is the the what's going on
2:00:29
with the bloodline? You know, the Bloodline is it's falling apart, and
2:00:33
I think I recall last episode, everybody was against me when I said that
2:00:41
the Bloodline would win this match. So when they actually did win this match,
2:00:45
I laughed, and I laughed nice and hard as I did, I
2:00:51
was gonna post on the discard. I was like, no, I will
2:00:55
save it for the podcast. I knew because I felt like the titles.
2:01:03
Since the titles weren't on the line, they could take the l right.
2:01:08
And Matt Rill's just in there to be in there, just to be the
2:01:11
third guy, right or it's not back Matt Role needs something to do before
2:01:15
he shows his dick on the internet. He you know, Uh, we'll
2:01:19
talk about that later. Um, but the Bloodline needed this win. They
2:01:25
needed this win for the sake of preventing an ass whooping from Roman most likely.
2:01:30
I mean, like I said, they haven't talked to Roman and At
2:01:31
quite some time, and it seems like Solo is the one who's probably gonna
2:01:40
be making the decision here. You know what we saw, like, we
2:01:43
saw the the aggressive tags, we saw the arguments, we saw we saw
2:01:49
the the possibility of was it it's probably Jay Us almost gave yeah, yeah,
2:02:00
which I was kind of I kind of laughed at. I was like,
2:02:02
Okay, you know that wasn't gonna happen. But the spot where Jimmy
2:02:08
super kicked Jay, you know, that was pretty good. When Kevin Owens
2:02:11
moved out of the way. You know, there's a lot of good spots
2:02:14
in this. You know, uh, there's a lot of times I thought
2:02:17
they that Owens and Sammy Zame may have had this. You know, after
2:02:21
that that that super kick mishap, Kevin Owens got him up for a pop
2:02:27
up power bomb, but he kicked out. You know, he did the
2:02:30
swanton bomb, which, by the way, Kevin Owens doing a swanton bomb
2:02:33
is always interesting to seek us again he's a big guy. Um, but
2:02:38
he does it so well you know. Uh, and and Jake kicks out
2:02:43
of that. And then there's just super kicks everywhere. I mean, whenever
2:02:48
you watch these guys wrestle like you could do like, okay, we'll drink
2:02:53
every time there's a super kick, right, you get so fucked up before
2:02:57
the end of this match. Do you think this matches is done by a
2:03:00
E W Just super kicks everywhere? Um, you know, but this time
2:03:08
it was Kao taking them as opposed to Sammy taking them all as WrestleMania.
2:03:11
Yeah, yeah, you know, I like when Sammy pulls out the Blue
2:03:15
Thunderbomb. You know, uh, he got the dual super kicks when he
2:03:20
jumped off the top rope and he kicked out of that. Um. But
2:03:26
yeah, that and that's one Towards that end of that match when we started
2:03:29
seeing some tension between you know, Jay and Jimmy. It was solom but
2:03:34
you know I kinda figured that Riddle would take the pin. I mean,
2:03:39
that's why he's there, bro. You know, you're taking the pin and
2:03:43
rightfully so by Solo. You know, this guy has only lost like one
2:03:47
match this year in a singles match. And that wasa Cody Rhodes. And
2:03:50
then this guy's on a singles winning street, which you know, people think
2:03:55
it's crazy, but this guy could you know, possibly be a champ of
2:04:00
some shape or form within the next year. I'm not saying world heavyweight champion.
2:04:04
I'm not you know, he could he could be the guy to you
2:04:10
know, maybe grasp that United States title from Austin theory, that'd be kind
2:04:15
of scary seeing soloskoe with with some gold around his waist, not you know,
2:04:19
no way taking it from him for quite some time. Um, you
2:04:25
know, it's really it wasn't about the match. It was about the story.
2:04:28
And the story is is that bloodline is slowly fallen apart, and I
2:04:34
think we can all see it started at WrestleMania and it's happening again at Backlash,
2:04:41
and I'm interested to see how this goes when Roman comes back, you
2:04:45
know. Um, yeah, yeah, yep, I'm gonna agree with all
2:04:53
that. Doll. What do you think of a match? I mean it
2:04:57
was it was a very very very good match, you know, and then
2:05:02
just about any other setting, Uh, it's a main event caliber match and
2:05:09
it's probably a four maybe four plus star match. But following that in the
2:05:16
last two you know, it's just like, and you know, I keep
2:05:19
saying it, I'm just like, what the hell are they thinking? You
2:05:24
know? Um so so they were pushing the fucking rock up a hill,
2:05:29
a boulder up a hill. Uh you know, before the bell even rang.
2:05:33
Uh yeah, you know, like Drey, like you said, UM,
2:05:39
this is kind of I feel like I've kind of seen this all before,
2:05:42
you know, with Sammy and uzos um. But you know, they're
2:05:47
going to different brands now, so hopefully we'll get away from that. And
2:05:51
it looks like where we're headed is yeah, fighting within the Bloodline. Uh
2:05:58
yeah, all the hard tags, all the uh nor the near uh spike
2:06:04
uh from Solo. I think if we think it was j um you know,
2:06:12
so yeah, I think that's where that story is going. And hopefully
2:06:15
um Sammy and Kao and started defending the tag titles against other people. They
2:06:23
need to start seeing other people. Uh you know, you know, inasmuch
2:06:29
as that that you know, Sammy bloodline arc I described it as one of
2:06:33
the greatest stories I'm told. I stand by that, but it's time to
2:06:38
move that Bloodline story elsewhere, and it's time for Sammy and Ko to go
2:06:42
do something else. Um, ridol taking the panic. It feels like Riddolds
2:06:47
were kind of being punished. He's still you know, you know, he's
2:06:51
back from suspension obviously. Uh. And yeah, and that was before certain
2:06:59
other revelations, shall we say, Um yeah, But I mean, uh,
2:07:04
there's a three star match I think and the egg exact same match,
2:07:12
uh in an arena somewhere else, you know, in Welles Fire Gosenter in
2:07:17
Boston Garden and Madison Square Garden might be a four and a half star match,
2:07:21
the exact same match, you know what I mean. And it just
2:07:26
tells you how what big influence the crowd has on things. Um. And
2:07:32
but I still can't. I can't get it out of my head, you
2:07:35
know, going in with the bloodline thing, uh, Paul him and saying
2:07:41
the solo you know, like what did you say it's time or it's it's
2:07:45
your night or it's your time, something like that, And I never really
2:07:48
got paid off. There's still something floating in the air, there's still something
2:07:55
afoot. Uh, there's still a mystery to be solved, and maybe more
2:08:00
are uh So I mean it's still intrigue going forward. I just hope we're
2:08:05
now done with Sammy and Ko and the Blood Mine and and they're gonna go
2:08:09
one way and yeah, you know, Sammy and Ko, we'll go the
2:08:13
other way. Uh, and there on a separate brand. So hopefully that
2:08:18
actually means something. Um but I can't can't get it out of my head
2:08:22
to that still hasn't quite paid off yet. Uh, because solo solos up
2:08:28
to something, you know exactly, it's just a matter of what it is
2:08:31
and who it's for, you know. Yeah, yeah, definitely. And
2:08:35
to that effect, my question to the both of you is, do you
2:08:39
think the WWE will actually kick one or both of the blook USO's out of
2:08:45
the blood Live both? Yeah, definitely, absolutely, it's gonna be both.
2:08:52
It'll at least be one, but absolutely you think one they're eventually gonna
2:08:58
get kicked out. You don't think they're gonna pull a pump fake on us
2:09:01
and make us think that all this shits fall apart just for the Bloodline to
2:09:05
come back stronger than ever. I mean, that's not outside the remal possibility.
2:09:11
Yeah, I mean, dismiss that kicking family out, but you know
2:09:16
it's been done before. It's been done before. Yep, all right,
2:09:24
you know, um, speaking of it's been done before U. Last week,
2:09:31
I meant him write down. I meant to right down to remind myself
2:09:35
to ask y'all a trivia question. So I'll just ask you now because I
2:09:39
just thought of it again. Who was the first person to pin stone Cold?
2:09:45
Steve Auston? I know, I mean stunning Steve Auston, I mean
2:09:48
stone Cold Steve Auston. I don't give you a hint. He was also
2:09:50
the first person to pin Rocking my Ida an actual, So we're talking stone
2:09:58
Cold after he'd came stone Cold. Yeah, well the Ringmaster was actually never
2:10:03
penned. But yes, that w that WWE f run um triple h.
2:10:13
No stone was it? Kane? No? Kane came months later. M
2:10:26
first person to pinned stone Cold and the rock stone Cold and the Rocks.
2:10:33
No, no, no, no, because he said rock. No because
2:10:37
he said Rocky, my Avias. I'm assuming this was Okay, we're thinking
2:10:39
far far back, right. Well, I thought this should be incredibly obvious.
2:10:46
I'm the undertaker, Savio Vega. That's all I was gonna say.
2:10:52
You didn't give me a chance. Okay, Oh yeah, goddamn, you're
2:11:00
right, He's mentioned it quite often. Huh nice. Sorry, I just
2:11:09
I meant to ask it last week and I forgot, and I meant asking
2:11:11
this week and I also forgotten. It just popped into my head and I
2:11:15
was like, are you forgot it again? PROSTI sabiel bega it's a feather
2:11:20
in his cap? Yes, all right, Well, we got one last
2:11:26
match on this card. This was the main event in somebody's eyes at WWE,
2:11:33
and they decided to make it the main event of the pay per view,
2:11:35
and that would be Cody Roads versus brock Lestener And uh, this was
2:11:43
a good match, and uh, I don't know. My feelings about this
2:11:52
match have kind of changed given what happened this past Monday on raw UM.
2:11:58
I will say that I was surprised that we actually got a Crimson mask in
2:12:01
the match. That was probably the biggest surprise out of everything that happened in
2:12:05
this match, is that we actually saw blood and not just a little bit
2:12:11
of it, like a lot like old school Crimson mask. If they knew
2:12:16
they were going to do that, That's the only thing I can think of
2:12:18
that they made this one last right, Like I thought that too. It's
2:12:24
just like you have this bloodless street fight. Yeah, then you have there's
2:12:28
other match where there's blood just right. Yeah, that's the only thing I
2:12:31
can think of that You're right, that could have justified this being the last
2:12:35
matching them. Maybe if they knew that Brock was gonna bleed and then they
2:12:39
didn't want to have, you know, follow up matches with blood in the
2:12:43
ring like that. I get that. Yeah, that's if they knew that
2:12:48
then sure, And it seems maybe they did, because it seems like brock
2:12:52
Lesner kind of gets to do whatever he wants in WWE with little to nobody,
2:13:00
you know, saying otherwise, Like, you know, if Brock decides,
2:13:03
hey, I'm gonna bleeding, this matches like, okay, fine,
2:13:07
anybody else bleeds, They're get in trouble block. Brock decides he wants to
2:13:09
bleed, okay, like it all right, work around it. Um.
2:13:15
I will say, I'm surprised that Cody won. I'm pretty sure in our
2:13:20
preview show I did not pick Cody to win. I'm pretty sure I said
2:13:22
brock Lesner was gonna win, And um, I figured that this feud was
2:13:26
gonna go for multiple matches, honestly, Like I figured this wasn't gonna be
2:13:31
a one and done thing between Cody and Brock. But honestly, I thought
2:13:35
Brock was gonna win the first one and then Cody was gonna have to,
2:13:39
you know, fight his way back up and eventually conquer Brock. I was
2:13:43
surprised, So I'm surprised that they, excuse me, they had Cody win
2:13:48
and when clean in the first match, and granted, there isn't much room
2:13:54
for interference or other things to happen, or are the outside people to get
2:13:56
involved, so I'm nevertheless, I'm still surprised. But the match itself,
2:14:01
it was a good match. Cody got his offense in Rock did his typical
2:14:07
man of a thousand German sup plexus and then once and then it obviously followed
2:14:13
up within an F five, and then after that it's anybody's guess where the
2:14:18
match goes from there. But we got a pretty creative finish. I'll give
2:14:22
him that for having Cody win. They at least I give him credit for
2:14:26
at least finding a creative way to have Cody win, as opposed to like
2:14:31
him like just beating the shit out of Rock and winning like he was pretty
2:14:35
much on the ropes and then just used his brain to outsmart brock Lessner and
2:14:41
get the pen by basically rolling in, rolling him up, and shifting his
2:14:45
weight while in the midst of a Kamara lock and getting either three counts.
2:14:48
So props to them for that. But uh, other than that, this
2:14:54
match for a final match of the pay per view definitely was kind of a
2:15:01
weak, especially compared to the Damien Priests Bad Buddy match, which we've said
2:15:05
Tom again should have been the main event, and I don't think anything nothing
2:15:11
came about this match to really change my thoughts in my opinion of that.
2:15:15
Um, I'll give it three stars out of five. Um Doyle, what
2:15:20
do you think of his match? Um? Uh? Full disclosure, I
2:15:26
don't love either of these guys. Uh. I liked Bronc a lot better
2:15:31
when he was younger. His more modern stuff, it's been kind of formulaic.
2:15:37
Uh. Yep, and find also to be incredibly formulaic. Uh.
2:15:45
And this was exactly that. It was a Cody road like you know,
2:15:54
I appreciated the Cody started off fast, kind of try to get the jump
2:15:58
on him, uh if you will. Uh. And then Brock just beat
2:16:03
the hell out of him, and then he kind of kind of order.
2:16:07
Did his hulk up Cody up kind of thing. Uh. Then Brock came
2:16:13
back and then he got that uh that kind well not roll up pin,
2:16:18
but it kind of almost the equivalent. It was. It was a clever
2:16:22
finish, uh, having him in that submission and then he pins him.
2:16:26
But I thought it was odd that all the promos were Cody Colin Brock a
2:16:31
coward and then he pins him and gets the fuck out of Dodge Like kind
2:16:37
of seems a little cowardly, doesn't it. Uh, just coming from a
2:16:41
guy that called the other guy a coward. Um, it just kind of
2:16:46
felt like it was setting up something else and turns out it was. Um
2:16:54
yeah, it's just it. If it had come out and been a fucking
2:16:58
amazing man, maybe we're not even having this conversation about it. Oh,
2:17:03
this should have been the main event, and that should have been the main
2:17:05
event, you know what I mean. But it was just you know,
2:17:09
it wasn't great. Um yeah, yeah, you know, it's a two
2:17:15
and three quarters and star match for me, you know. And again the
2:17:20
only thing I can think is they go, oh, we're gonna have blood
2:17:24
in this match, so we'll have to have this one last what a stupid
2:17:28
fucking ration, you know, like, well, like, I don't think
2:17:31
blood added anything to this match, not to jump the gun, especially for
2:17:37
a first especially for the first time, like you know, for this to
2:17:41
be their first confrontation and you're already bringing blood into the mat into the Yea.
2:17:48
I'm not anti blood by any means, but it just it doesn't seem
2:17:50
It seems so out of place and unnecessary, especially in lieu of the fact
2:17:56
that you just had a street fight and guys going crazy weapons and you know,
2:18:01
and no, not a drop of blood, and you just had a
2:18:03
fucking hell in a cell match at WrestleMania that you stopped for like five minutes
2:18:09
because of blood. You know. It's just and it seemed like they were
2:18:16
trying they purposely started to work away from the hard camera, like the camera
2:18:20
wasn't really showing the blood that much. You know, you kind of more
2:18:26
saw it on Cody than you did on Lesni's face. It was just like,
2:18:30
what the like, why even bother? It didn't add anything to anything,
2:18:35
And then they tried kind of to pussy foot around it. It just
2:18:39
either do it or don't do it, you know, like what the fuck?
2:18:41
Uh? And and and you know, just it doesn't make it's just
2:18:50
a stupid it's just if you got them one shot, why I wasted there?
2:18:54
Right, I'm in a complete agreement with you. It seemed completely out
2:19:00
of place in this kind of match, and even the it seems like they
2:19:03
booked this match knowing. It seems like they booked this match with the intent
2:19:09
of it just being like an opening round as opposed to being a full flesh
2:19:13
match, you know, like they it was short you would expect and right
2:19:18
like a first out, like yeah, it was shorter than you would expect
2:19:22
for a main event match, and everything about it just said like, Okay,
2:19:26
we know we're doing this again at you know at uh yeah, in
2:19:33
the future. You know what I'm saying. Obviously, you know spoiler alert,
2:19:35
would jumping Jumping in had just a slight bit, Yes, they're having
2:19:39
a rematch at uh the Saudi Super Show or whatever. They're calling it a
2:19:43
Night of Champions and Night of Champions in a couple of weeks, So it
2:19:48
seems like they it seems like this match was booked with that already planned,
2:19:54
like look, we're gonna have them jump at it again in three weeks let's
2:19:56
not wear everything out. Let's not you know, go all all out in
2:20:00
this one, like they booked it intentionally holding back. But then if you're
2:20:03
gonna intentially hold back, why the fuck is he bleeding in this match?
2:20:07
Yeah? Like, where do you go from there? With blood? After
2:20:11
you've already after you've already cracked somebody wide open in this match? It wasn't
2:20:15
like, yeah, it wasn't like the Finnish happened. Excuse me, it
2:20:18
wasn't like the finish happened because Lessner was like a situation where Lesser passed out
2:20:22
because they lost too much blood or something's blood had anything to do with the
2:20:26
Finnish exactly. Like it was just so you unnecessary, it was, right,
2:20:31
So so what happens next time? What does Cody bleed in soud?
2:20:35
You're like, I don't know where do you go from here? But uh
2:20:37
yeah wait blood by any means, yeah, Wayne hopped in here? What
2:20:41
did you? Uh? What were your thoughts on the match? Oh?
2:20:43
Man? This match was the most disappointing match for me. Uh because first
2:20:50
off, you guys are right this this should not have been the main event.
2:20:56
Uh, we should have gotten Damian priests and Bad Bunny. It's the
2:20:58
main event and have been perfect way to end the show. Uh. Instead
2:21:03
we got a chicken shit Cody Roads running off. Um bring Brock kind of
2:21:07
standing ovation, yeah, after he called him a coward and then he runs
2:21:11
off. Yeah right, Uh, but you know it's weird. Brock and
2:21:16
Cody Roads were the only two guys to get pyro uh for this pay per
2:21:20
view. Um, not even Bad Bunny did he Yeah? Yeah he did.
2:21:30
Bad Bunny absolutely got pyro Okay, Okay, well that's wrong with that
2:21:33
one. Um. Uh. For the number of moves here, we had
2:21:37
three suplexes, one F five and one more lock. And for Cody we
2:21:43
had three Disaster Kicks, two Cody Cutters, two cross Roads. Yeah.
2:21:50
It's just it's just so cookie cutter with both of them, and they both
2:21:54
of them together. Now, I've been hearing rumors that trip Lea's just been
2:22:01
pushing for at least the third hour of Raw to have blood, right to
2:22:05
have to be allowed to have color. Um, so I could see why
2:22:09
this was at the end of the night. It wasn't necessary. No,
2:22:15
uh. It was a hell of a lot of blood though. Uh you
2:22:18
know, Cody had it all over him. He had it on his chest
2:22:22
when he when he had him, you know, doing doing the Crossroads,
2:22:24
he had it all over the side of his stomach, his ribs. Like
2:22:28
it was a lot of fucking blood. Like it made me think of that
2:22:31
one match with it was Eddie Garrow and jbl. You know, just just
2:22:37
so much blood. You know, you know what I thought Rick Flair was
2:22:41
out there wrestling. It's a perfect seguent question. I think it was that
2:22:45
much blood though. You really, like a lot of wrestlers when when they
2:22:48
do get colored right and they wrestled, they don't always get a shipload of
2:22:54
it onto their goddamn opponent. But like Cody was like covered in it,
2:22:58
like and even like Rev had a towel out there, but like I saw
2:23:03
him kick it to the side until the matter was fully over. But he
2:23:07
did put his but he did put his gloves on. Yeah, he did
2:23:09
put his gloves on. Um. And you know what the like I called
2:23:15
this too. I was like, the only way he's gonna beat Brock is
2:23:18
with a roll up. I mean, that's that's how it's gonna go.
2:23:20
He's gonna be with a role I said, he was gonna get his ass
2:23:22
beat afterwards, which ha ha, not really, but the next night,
2:23:28
you know, on on Raw, you know, he kind of did get
2:23:31
his ass beat. But yeah, he did exactly what I thought he was
2:23:35
gonna do it. He's gonna get him on a fucking roll up and and
2:23:37
yeah, a unique way to go about it. But does this further his
2:23:41
fucking story to what? Though? Like, because he's always talking about finish
2:23:48
the story, Well, guess what, you're You're on a different brand with
2:23:50
a different title, and now you're doing a whole different fucking story. Uh.
2:23:58
I mean, overall all the pay per view was good. I just
2:24:01
think they just didn't land They didn't you know, landed properly at the end.
2:24:07
There, Yeah, three three stars for that that match. You know,
2:24:13
I kind of wish that match would have went a little bit longer.
2:24:18
I mean, that match was only nine minutes forty seconds, but we yet
2:24:22
we got like twenty two minutes for that six man tag match, you know,
2:24:26
which we could have honestly seen on RATS to be fair. Yeah,
2:24:33
yeah, I mean pretty much the only noteworthy thing that happened in this match
2:24:37
was blood more or less, so we could have seen this match except for
2:24:43
the blood, right, Yeah, I mean, yeah, So in light
2:24:46
of what you mentioned about Triple H wanting to uh possibly pushing for to bring
2:24:52
back blood a little bit, um, do you think do you all think
2:24:56
that the WWE should relax it's no blood policy moving forward. I think they
2:25:01
should because, uh, it brings a lot of realism to it. I
2:25:07
mean, if you guys, remember when Brock had a match against Randy Organ
2:25:11
and he busted him open pretty badly with just the elbow shots to the fucking
2:25:16
face. That was kind of shocking for a lot of people because like they
2:25:20
hadn't seen color in a while. We've had we've been deprived of blood for
2:25:26
a while, even just the smallest amount, you know. Uh, well,
2:25:31
we've had a hard way. Yeah, yeah, I mean much.
2:25:35
Only time we get blood now seems like it's by accident. We haven't had
2:25:39
any actual, like planned intended blood in a long time, yeah, or
2:25:43
any bleeding in arraying. And I don't want to argue that that unintentional blood
2:25:48
made Becky Lynch into uh, you know, launch another level. You sure,
2:25:54
sure sure, there there moments when it happens, and when it's on
2:25:58
the moment, when it's yeah, when it's genuine, it can have a
2:26:01
real impact and it's real noteworthy when it genuinely happens. But I think there's
2:26:07
also space for intentional blood when used smartly. Like we definitely don't need to
2:26:15
go back to the old ECW days and ship where everybody just bled for the
2:26:18
fuck of it just because it looked cool on television. And I don't think
2:26:22
anybody wants to see people scarring their foreheads up for life blading you know,
2:26:26
every other every month on a pay per view or anything like that. But
2:26:30
I do think there is if they use it very sparingly and use it smartly
2:26:37
when the situation truly warrants blood, then I think it could be a very
2:26:41
effective tool for w W to use and storytelling. This match itself was not
2:26:48
a proper use of blood, because, yeah, if your first match in
2:26:52
a feud, which is clearly y'all had planned to go more than one match,
2:26:58
No, you don't want to have somebody bleeding in the first match because
2:27:01
you've you've raised the stakes too high already and it doesn't leave any room to
2:27:05
go from here. I mean, like I said, what's gonna happen at
2:27:09
Night of Champions, you know, brock Blade, the first match so what
2:27:11
now Cody has to bleed in the next match in order to set up a
2:27:15
rubber match Like this is one of the things that yeah, you have to
2:27:18
be smart about it, and if they do relax it. As long as
2:27:22
they're smart in terms of how they implement it, I think it can go
2:27:26
well. Yeah, I mean you can't be like like you got John Moxley
2:27:33
and then then on the other channel, Blade literally every week, you know,
2:27:39
and that's overkilled. You don't need you know, no, but but
2:27:43
but for a big blowoff match, I mean, did we were getting these
2:27:46
hell on a sellam matches with no blood you know? Really? Uh?
2:27:52
Or elimination chamber or whatever it is? Like sometimes like I don't see what
2:28:00
the big deal is if it's occasional, you know, And and we're way
2:28:03
past the days where, um, you know, if we're doing something like
2:28:09
that, they're going to be tested up the wazoo for whatever everything under the
2:28:13
sun. So you know, I don't know that we're concerned about blood born
2:28:16
illnesses anymore. Really, Um, So that's maybe not a concern. You
2:28:24
know, it certainly was at one time. But it's like, you know,
2:28:28
you see these movies that you know, you know, USA and TNT,
2:28:33
the channels that have wrestling will show you know, obviously a a John
2:28:41
Wick movie or whatever, and they'll edit out the fox and the ships and
2:28:46
whatever, but they'll still show the explosive wounds or whatever. You know.
2:28:50
It's not like we're not seeing blood any you know. It's it's not like
2:28:54
it's a super oh my god. You know, it's not as it's not
2:28:58
a test booth thing. Yeah, you know, it's not like um,
2:29:05
you know they're coming out with machetes and and halfing limbs off, you know
2:29:09
what I mean. It's not I wouldn't say graphic violence, do you know
2:29:13
what I mean? And I guess the only the only chance for something like
2:29:16
that is you know, you've seen them. I'm sure clips uh where they
2:29:22
go too deep or whatever and you can some kind of sometimes see it sprang
2:29:28
out, you know, right. Uh. I mean I think actually that
2:29:31
was the case that I think somebody mentioned the Eddie Guerrero uh JBL match that
2:29:39
was one of the worst playing jobs ever. But you can see it,
2:29:43
you know. As long as we're not getting that, it's okay. I
2:29:52
am pro blood. I think we're all I think we're all pro blood.
2:29:58
We should start a brood, all right? Yeah? Um, any final
2:30:05
thoughts from anybody on the pay per view as a whole, you know what.
2:30:13
Honestly I would like to see them go back there for a pay per
2:30:16
view again after this success. Absolutely, yeah, certainly more before eight another
2:30:22
eighteen years, you know. Yeah, yeah, definitely if it's not even
2:30:28
if it's not another pay per view, if it's like house shows or or
2:30:31
a super show. Yeah, just something like that. Yeah, Puerto Rico
2:30:35
ain't that far away, so they shouldn't be able to do this again.
2:30:37
Like I don't know, like somebody I heard somebody and exactly, yeah,
2:30:43
I heard somebody mentioned that, you know, they backlund I should be in
2:30:45
Puerto Rico every year, and I don't. I wouldn't necessarily go that far
2:30:48
because I'm pretty sure that there are other international territories that WWE wants to hold
2:30:52
some shows in, Like I'm pretty sure they want to do one in Australia.
2:30:56
I'm pretty sure they'd like to. I'm pretty sure they'd love to pull
2:30:58
one off in Japan at some points. So, you know, but they
2:31:03
as they continue to you know, expand their international reach, they should not
2:31:07
forget about Puerto Rico. Sure, well, but would it lose would it
2:31:11
lose its luster if it happened every year? Right? Would it be as
2:31:18
special every single time? Not? Yeah, like somebody, Yeah, places
2:31:24
like the UK, the UK you can probably go to every year and it's
2:31:28
more or less the same. Puerto Rico I would be again not you know,
2:31:35
sparingly wants in a rare blue moon with it, but I think it
2:31:39
can be incorporated into their regular rotation and for sure, but Puerto Rico also
2:31:45
is well a couple islands, I guess, but mainly one big island.
2:31:52
Actually four our different countries, so you could have you could have a pay
2:31:56
per view in the UK every year for four years and never have it in
2:32:01
the same country technically, right, right, technically it be in a different
2:32:05
country, but you know, still kind of the same audience, but yet
2:32:07
like you said, you're right, technically different countries. But um, which
2:32:11
allows them to use that more frequently. I mean, hell, they just
2:32:15
did a whole UK tour right before Backlash without it being you know, associated
2:32:20
with any premium live event or anything, or any episode of Raur SmackDown.
2:32:24
They just did a tour just because so you know, you know, what
2:32:28
I mean. Anybody from there will tell you that Whales is different from England.
2:32:33
It's different from Scotland, it's different from Northern Ireland, right right,
2:32:39
I say. I just I hope that they don't forget about Puerto Rico.
2:32:43
I would like this to be Oh, totally agreed. Yeah, don't forget
2:32:46
about it. This is very at least every couple of years kind of thing
2:32:50
for sure. Yeah, yeah, I mean not even yeah, I would
2:32:54
I almost would agree with it being more than every couple of years. Like
2:32:58
I said, I wouldn't mind them doing a show once a year. It
2:33:01
just don't it doesn't necessarily have to be a pay per view. Yeah,
2:33:05
even you know, every now and then they'll they'll like televise a house show
2:33:11
or something. Even something like that might be fun. Yeah, like a
2:33:15
house show in Puerto Rico. You can get an episode of Raw or SmackDown
2:33:18
in Puerto Rico. Like, let's again, it's right there. It ain't
2:33:22
that far away. You can you should be able to pull it off,
2:33:26
you know, just like they go to Canada every once in a blue moon
2:33:28
or they know, or they hit Canada at least a couple of times a
2:33:31
year, you know, yeah, well, I mean Canada should you know,
2:33:35
all actuality be harder to get to, you know, that should be
2:33:37
logistically more difficult, right, That's what I'm saying. If you if you
2:33:41
can do Canada a couple of times a year, you can do Puerto Rico
2:33:45
once. Yeah. Sure, yeah. So hopefully we do see that.
2:33:50
Hopefully WW realizes that this is uh some pretty fertile ground that they can take
2:33:56
advantage of, not in a malicious way, but you know, use for
2:34:01
the to their benefit. Um. That being said, I guess that does
2:34:05
it for h Backlash two thousand and twenty three. Um, you guys want
2:34:11
to take a break before we come back and cover raw and news and such.
2:34:18
I didn't love it. Yeah you want to say break, let's say
2:34:20
break? All right, Well we will be back. Whoa right? Oh
2:34:37
yeah, whoa right? Oh yeah, m oh, it's true. It's
2:35:03
damp. It's not welcome back after our little peam break, uh dre.
2:35:22
Let's talk about Monday Night Raw that happened after Backlash. We don't have to
2:35:26
go in depth. Um, I'm gonna just shoot the shit about Monday Night
2:35:31
Raw. Yep, yep, yep. Uh yeah, this is the beginning
2:35:39
of the World Heavyweight Championship Tournament. Okay, why the fuck do we have
2:35:50
SmackDown superstars involved in the World Heavyweight Championship Tournament that is strictly for Monday Night
2:35:58
Raw. But you know what up is down left his right, cats and
2:36:03
dogs are getting along things that don't make fucking sense anymore. You know,
2:36:07
the Raw Women's Champion is on SmackDown and SmackDown Women's Champions on Raw. Both
2:36:13
tag team titles are on the same show. Hell, the NXT tag titles
2:36:16
are now on the main roster ship. Does not make sense in the titles.
2:36:22
We have three heavyweight fucking titles. Guys, what the fuck is going
2:36:28
on with the title scene? I've never seen the titles this fucked like,
2:36:37
I don't know if it's It's absolutely fucking cast. And the only thing that's
2:36:43
certain is that Roman ain't dropping his belt no time soon exactly. They're all
2:36:46
we know, let's make numbers, let's break records. I get it,
2:36:52
but it's getting fucking stale too. It is nobody's changing titles and it's getting
2:37:00
stale. So this is the newest thing we have, right, I was
2:37:03
kind of like, you know what, Jesus, I'm kind of missing the
2:37:07
twenty four seven title because at least then we got some title changes going on.
2:37:13
Yeah, that's true if you if you think about it. Every the
2:37:16
only title that's changed hands recently has been the SmackDown Woman's title, the tag
2:37:22
titles, and It's end when Women's tag titles. But other than that,
2:37:26
all the other major titles have been in the same hands for long a few
2:37:31
months now, yeah, too long, too too long. Everything is just
2:37:39
the contal title is coming close to the breaking the Hockey talk Man's record.
2:37:43
Let's so, let's hope after that we see the Intercontinental title freed up and
2:37:48
Guthro join something else. The United States titles on it's one hundred and sixty
2:37:52
fourth day, Hopefully that fucking thing goes somewhere. The tag titles. I
2:37:58
want to see the tag titles broken up, like you know, you can't
2:38:03
hold them both hostage by the same guys, because then now this means that
2:38:07
these guys can go on either show, so right away the trap doesn't even
2:38:13
matter. That's that? Does it mean that? I haven't heard that?
2:38:16
It means that? What else does it really mean? You know, like,
2:38:20
what else are you gonna do? You're gonna That's what I said.
2:38:22
I would like it if they're gonna if they're gonna say that the tag titles
2:38:26
are exclusive to Raw. Uh. I would like it if they mandated that
2:38:33
whoever the tag team champion is has to defend it against a team from a
2:38:37
different brand every x amount of days. You know, that might be something
2:38:41
to just spice it up a little and maybe give you some hope that it
2:38:45
might cross to a different thing. You know, it might be a SmackDown
2:38:48
title for a couple of months and then go back to Raw and then go
2:38:52
back to you know whatever. Yeah, I think. But the one crux
2:38:56
to that is the fact that they're calling them the undisputed Tag Champions, but
2:39:01
the belts that they hold are the Raw and SmackDown tag titles. Like it's
2:39:05
a slight, it's a bit of a nuance. But it is different from
2:39:07
Roman because Roman is WWE Champion and Universal Champion. His belt, his belts
2:39:13
don't have specific show names to him, whereas Ko and Sammy's belts are the
2:39:18
Raw Tag Champions and the Tag team I mean, the SmackDown Tag Team Championships.
2:39:22
So if they're gonna monopolize, yeah, if they're gonna monopolize both of
2:39:26
them, then they should not be exclusive to one show. They should be
2:39:31
competing on both shows. Considering they have the titles that are tied to both
2:39:35
shows or whatever brand that those two are specifically on is the belts that they
2:39:39
get to keep, and they should be stripped of the belts from the other
2:39:43
show, and thus the titles should stay with the show if they carry the
2:39:48
name. It's so much more complicated than it needs to be, right right,
2:39:52
And speaking of speaking of titles tied to the show, as we just
2:39:56
said, you got the Raw Women's hampion Chip on SmackDown and the SmackDown Women's
2:40:01
Championship on Raw and still haven't said if they're gonna do anything about about it.
2:40:09
But got out here rough with me. The more I think about it,
2:40:13
it doesn't bother me. And I'll tell you why, because um a
2:40:18
W has TNT Championship and a TBS Championship, and sometimes the TBS Championship is
2:40:24
defended on TNT and sometimes the TNT Championship is defended on TB as uh,
2:40:31
and I kind of feel like in getting back to lineage, right, uh,
2:40:35
it'll fuck up Beyonca's lineage if you make her switch the bounce, now,
2:40:41
she'll she'll lose her her currently uh four hundred and two days as the
2:40:48
Raw Women's champion. Uh, and they're gonna set her back to zero if
2:40:52
they just switch, if they make her the SmackDown champion, Like that doesn't
2:40:56
make sense. Uh? Okay, I hear. It's so fucking overly complicated.
2:41:03
Yeah, I hear. I hear. The championship scene should be the
2:41:05
most less the least complicated thing, right, Yeah, yeah, I hear
2:41:11
your point about the comparison to a w and their t N T and TBS
2:41:15
championships and those belts. You know, Like I said, TNT appears on
2:41:20
tabs and TBS appears on TNT. But I think the difference in that situation
2:41:24
is that it's one aw roster. The belt might be tied to the show,
2:41:31
but the roster is still one roster, so those wrestlers aren't tied to
2:41:35
you know, TBS. It's not like the TNT champion is only allowed to
2:41:39
wrestle on TNT and the TBS Championship champion is only allowed to wrestle on TBS.
2:41:43
This is different with WB because they have a specific brand split where these
2:41:48
wrestlers are supposed to be tied to a roster with a specific show, so
2:41:54
having so when they do that but then have them as champions of the opposite
2:42:00
show, it just last time. They should just rename the title something different,
2:42:07
you know, and not make them this SmackDown in the raw championship.
2:42:11
Make them the the Continental and the Global or something, you know, whatever
2:42:16
it is, it doesn't matter. Yeah, like the men's titles are the
2:42:20
men's titles aren't that. I just don't like them naming. They'd have to
2:42:22
come up with a damn good name for it, though, like trying to
2:42:26
slap some sort of other geographic title to it. Yeah, that's just not
2:42:31
gonna work. And honest, Yeah, and that's and that's the like,
2:42:35
just like I thought the Universal Championship naming was stupid from the jump. I
2:42:39
understand they wanted to tie it into, you know, the WWE Universe,
2:42:43
which was them trying to siphon off the Marvel Cinematic Universe because you know,
2:42:46
it's the only reason why they came up with universe in the first goddamn place.
2:42:50
But you know, the Universal Championship just sounded dumb from the very jump,
2:42:56
and so you know, you got two belts that are geographic intercontinental.
2:43:00
In United States, they're mid cars. If you try to slap a geographic
2:43:03
name on the women's titles, you almost it almost connects them more to mid
2:43:09
car titles than actual world titles. Your top belts are supposed to be world
2:43:13
titles. That want to call them it doesn't matter for this exercise. I
2:43:18
understand what you're saying. I understand what you're saying, but I just don't
2:43:22
know what other name you could give them other than women's champions because you know
2:43:28
that carries its own lineage in and of itself. I mean, do you
2:43:31
want to call them the women's heavyweight championship? You know that could be That
2:43:35
doesn't sound like, that doesn't sound good, that sounds trigery, So you
2:43:41
know, I mean other than yeah, yeah, like, the only other
2:43:46
thing you could do it is only other word you could slap on them is
2:43:50
world championship. But you still have two of them, so you still got
2:43:54
to find some way to distinguish them. And the kind of the only thing
2:43:58
that really does work makes sense. It's raw and SmackDown. Yeah, it's
2:44:07
all right, which is why they should have just addressed this shit before the
2:44:13
fucking Backlash pay per view. Yeah, or if not before addressed it,
2:44:20
they should have addressed it this Monday. Yeah, right after these two matches,
2:44:26
right, you defend your titles boom. Now that they're defended, y'all
2:44:28
are still the champions this Monday, they should have come out and have them
2:44:31
switched titles. She's still ah, She's still a champion, even if I
2:44:37
don't think anybody would really sweat the detail that much, like, oh,
2:44:41
she was raw champion, then she became SmackDown Champion and her record is broken.
2:44:43
She's still the world champion. She's still a world champion, whether it's
2:44:48
one belt or the other. I think the streak would still go and people
2:44:50
would still accept the streak. They would just know it was a belt swap
2:44:54
and for a very clear and obvious reason. That makes all the sense in
2:44:58
the world. World. No, I think champions on different shows swap them
2:45:03
motherfucker's and then you also get but it's like this is the second time they've
2:45:09
done this, and they're the ones that are in complete control of it,
2:45:13
like like why not just right and so that that doesn't happen. Sure,
2:45:20
I mean yeah, but it just makes too much sense to have just done
2:45:24
a swap. You get your moment of Bianca and rip and Rea and the
2:45:28
ring face to face. You know, y'all been teasing that confrontation for god
2:45:33
knows how long. It's another opportunity for y'all to tease it by having them
2:45:37
swap. And like I said, it's not a bad it's not a bad
2:45:41
thing if it makes sense to everybody, right, and this is one of
2:45:45
the things where it just would have made sense to everybody. So we're like,
2:45:48
Okay, well there's switching. They're the champs. Swap them all right,
2:45:50
cool, keep them moving. Crazy dragging this out and then having her
2:45:54
come out again with the belt, all raw wrestling and matching all stuff.
2:45:58
You're unnecessarily complicating a situation that never had to be this complicated in the first
2:46:03
place. Crazy idea of time. Here's what you do. You unify the
2:46:09
titles. Yeah, you put them on Raw. You give Raw a mid
2:46:13
card title. You make SmackDown the women's division exclusively tag teams, and you
2:46:20
put the tag team title over there. Hell though, singles competitors on Raw,
2:46:28
tag teams only on smack Debt. No, no, just no,
2:46:35
but yes, it was a crazy idea. So this world heavinly title tournent
2:46:39
okay for me, admittedly, though I'll start to cut you off, but
2:46:45
I'm not opposed to them. I'm not opposed to them unifying the women's title,
2:46:48
though I don't. I floated that idea in the past that they would
2:46:50
could have a unification match, and I'm still not opposed to the idea of
2:46:54
having one world champion over both brands. I'm still in favor of that idea,
2:47:01
but clearly they're not doing that with the men, so wouldn't make much
2:47:05
sense to do it with the women now, are either title nine? All
2:47:11
right? Um? Okay? So I felt like this tournament should have been
2:47:16
dragged out a little bit longer, but instead we had two triple threat matches,
2:47:22
which is the weirdest fucking thing for a tournament. Uh you know I
2:47:28
The first one was Shamus and not Shames, Damian Priest Seth Rollins and Shinska
2:47:35
and Alkamora in a triple threat. Now Damian who just lost to a pop
2:47:39
star. Yes, but Damian Priest sold the leg injury the entire match,
2:47:45
which I kind of like, and but give me fucking I haven't seen it
2:47:50
a long time. I've seen it once before when uh, I think Shinsky
2:47:54
was the Intercontinental Champion and Seth may have been the United States or vice versa,
2:48:00
and they faced each other just one time, um, and a one
2:48:03
off match. But give me these two fucking guys in a singles match again,
2:48:07
fucking Seth Rollins. Yeah, we do some good work together. Yeah,
2:48:13
Seth Rollins comes out on top of this one. Advances kind of saw
2:48:18
that coming. Notes Austin theory. This is how you win a triple threat
2:48:22
match and look good in the process. H yeah, yeah yeah, and
2:48:26
uh and then and then later at night we get Finn Balor versus Cody Rhodes
2:48:31
versus the Miss. Uh, how the fuck does Miss get in this tournament?
2:48:37
You know, this is the guy who lost to a pop star.
2:48:39
Yeah that Damian Priests lost to a part time wrestler who's a pop star.
2:48:45
And two judgments distinction, yes, yes, um, but yeah, I
2:48:50
mean a lot of people think Cody Rhodse was the most obvious person to win
2:48:54
this, but nope, I called this too. I'm sitting on the couch
2:48:58
and I'm like, I think you ross got interfere and stop the momentum for
2:49:03
Cody and fuck him over. And that's exactly what happened, you know,
2:49:05
pulled him out of the ring, put him through F five into the table,
2:49:09
and then you know, uh, what the hell was he yelling at
2:49:13
him when he had him? Uh? I just remember him saying, who's
2:49:18
the coward? Now? Coward? Yeah? Yeah, but he was yelling
2:49:22
at Cody and then he started yelling at the camera. But he and he's
2:49:24
yelling what he should have been yelling at Cody at the camera, Yeah,
2:49:28
what the fuck are you doing? And then it seemed like as Mike wasn't
2:49:33
working while he was trying to cut a promo. Yeah, I don't like
2:49:39
this cowboy bullet chet. I don't like this in his fucking forehead too,
2:49:48
yeah Schinder yeah yeah. And so now we got and then we had Finn
2:49:54
Balor versus Seth Rollins because Finn Balor won that match. Uh And then you
2:49:58
know, rightfully, so Seth Rollinson advanced later in the evening, so you
2:50:03
know, we yea, then we're gonna have a SmackDown tournament. Okay,
2:50:09
So AJ Styles versus Edge versus RAYM Stereo. My money is on AJ Styles
2:50:13
because I don't see Edge what we're gonna have two faces towards the end of
2:50:20
this. I don't. I don't see that happen. Less we get Edge
2:50:22
advancing in that match, but honestly, after that we have Austin theory Bobby
2:50:28
Lashley and Shamus. You're not gonna like it, but I think it's gonna
2:50:33
be Austin theory. I think it's gonna do a little sneaky shit again.
2:50:37
Bobby Lash's gonna get sucked over yet again. Uh, and you know we'll
2:50:43
probably get aj styles versus Austin theory. I don't us Austin theory. Yeah.
2:50:50
See, I think Bobby Lashley comes out in the second match just because
2:50:54
it's not a title match, so they don't need to force some way for
2:51:01
theory to advance in the tournament. Because and also again he's the US champion,
2:51:07
Like, yeah, he's not gonna we know Dan well, he ain't
2:51:11
about to become the US Champion and World heavyweight champion, so we know we
2:51:15
know he's not winning this fucking tournament. He's just in it because he's the
2:51:20
US Champion, which, for all intensive purposes, is a valid reason to
2:51:24
be in a championship tournament like this. If you're already the mid car champion.
2:51:28
You should it makes sense to get an automatic entry into a world championship
2:51:33
tournament. So on that note, why the fuck was goun to not in
2:51:39
it on the raw side, But I digress. So anyway, we know
2:51:43
Austin Theory's not going to win it. I don't think he's gonna advance it.
2:51:46
He's gonna advance because again, this isn't a title match, so there's
2:51:50
no reason for them to have to come up with a way for him to
2:51:52
win it. I think Bobby Lashly is gonna get to win, and some
2:51:56
small they're gonna sell it as some matter, some small semblance of revenge against
2:52:01
um Theory because he'll probably actually penn Theory to win the match. I think,
2:52:07
and then and the first one, if any of them is unpredictable,
2:52:11
I think that first SmackDown one is unpredictable. It could be Edge or um
2:52:18
AJ styles. I am kind of also leaning towards AJ styles as well,
2:52:22
because he's back and he's clearly reunited with his OC guys, and OC kind
2:52:28
of needs to look good. They need to. They need some semblance to
2:52:33
something to look strong and having there, you know, the facto leader advancing
2:52:37
this tournament is one way of accomplishing that. We we also got uh Mustafa
2:52:45
Ali versus Otis or later in the evening, uh Mustafa Ali free agent,
2:52:52
go wherever he wants. You know, he has the same contract he's brought
2:52:56
listener. Apparently him and Omas, you know the think govern on Um.
2:53:01
I thought he was a jobber at first, I swear to God when he
2:53:05
was fighting Otis. I think I even mentioned in the discards like I thought
2:53:07
he was a jobber. Yeah, and then he won. Uh. You
2:53:13
know this whole thing where he Otis is getting confused and torn apart by Maxine
2:53:18
and chat Gable. Oh who knows how much longer this will drag out.
2:53:24
But apparently they're very high on the maximum male models backstage. Uh cool,
2:53:30
I guess uh. I think I'm on record on this very podcast the saying
2:53:41
that, like months and months ago, love these guys. Yeah, they
2:53:48
remind me of Rick to Martel. Martel, Yeah, I was a kid.
2:53:54
I want like I want to go around and spray arrogance everywhere I go
2:53:56
and just like yeah, but now I'm surprised they don't modernize that. I
2:54:05
guess the miss is kind of maybe a modernized version of that. But like
2:54:11
anybody, I guess maybe the Maximum Male Models are But I love that gimmick.
2:54:16
Man. Yeah, but you you've kind of called but you've called up
2:54:20
those guys from NXT. I don't remember the name their names are on the
2:54:24
top of my head. But they kind of seem like a more well de
2:54:28
Yeah, Pretty Deadly. Yeah, they seem like a more well developed version
2:54:31
of Maximum Male Models to a certain extent. To me, they have a
2:54:35
pretty boy thing. It seems like, yeah, yeah, they kind of
2:54:39
give off that same thing, but it's similar. Yeah, they kind of
2:54:43
give off that same energy to me, except Pretty Deadly is more developed.
2:54:48
I don't know, if I don't know, I don't know if they're both
2:54:50
on the same brand or separate brands. They're on the same brand, they
2:54:56
seem prime to But if they are on the same brand, that seems like
2:55:00
the makings of a very entertaining feud Pretty Deadly versus Maximum Male Models if they're
2:55:05
on the same brand, Right, So, yeah, I mean they go
2:55:11
they're gonna get something going with the men and I talked, I ranted about
2:55:15
the women's tag division. They're gonna get something over the men's tag division too,
2:55:18
especially if they're gonna have Sammy and Ko get away from the Bloodline now
2:55:24
and have to do, you know, defend the title against other people.
2:55:28
Yeah, they have some legitimate feud and not just random matches. Yeah.
2:55:31
So, I mean the men's tag division is woefully lacking, I would say
2:55:37
as well, so that that certainly needs a kick in the ars um.
2:55:45
Later in the evening, we had a match with Rida Ripley and the returning
2:55:50
Dana Brooke. You guys remember Dana Brooke. She's still with the company,
2:55:56
getting not high fiber. Yeah. Yeah, she wants to gonna high five
2:56:00
f mckinn. The kitte is like, no, the savage Um, you
2:56:07
know. She beats the shit out of Dana and she puts her into a
2:56:15
puts her in her submission hold, and uh, Natalia comes out to make
2:56:20
the save, slowly walking to the ring and heels to make the save.
2:56:26
Our savior arise. Yeah, there's your next Saudi match, right, there's
2:56:31
Natalia versus Rhea. I guarantee it. I wonder who's gonna win that one?
2:56:37
Yeah. Um. Later backstage, Zoe Stark, it's been interviewed.
2:56:43
She says she's amazing at what she does, and she she has complete confidence
2:56:46
and what she does. She walks over to Nicky Cross, who is being
2:56:50
a weirdo, and since she's gonna succeed because the roster is nothing but weirdos,
2:56:56
she challenges Nikki to a fight, and Nikki is weird about it.
2:57:03
Now see, from my money, they could have both. These two segments
2:57:09
could have been consolidated into one, because I don't think, for one,
2:57:16
there was no point of them. To tie. You're coming out there to
2:57:18
save her, we know, no disrespecting to tie you, but she ain't
2:57:22
winning shit. We know she ain't winning shit. So if you're gonna feed
2:57:28
somebody to Rear Ripley, who we know is gonna lose, at least still
2:57:31
try to get something out of it other than just real defending her title and
2:57:37
winning. From my money, I would have if I was booking it,
2:57:39
I would have had Zoe Starr come out there. Yeah, during when Rio
2:57:45
was putting the beat down on Dana Brook, we know she would have come
2:57:48
out there. Yes, we know that Zoe Start would not be Reo Ripley
2:57:52
in a match at this current point in time, but right she doesn't have
2:57:56
to. It's just her coming out there and getting INA's face immediately establishes her
2:58:01
as a character we should pay attention to. It shows that she's here on
2:58:07
Raw and has an impactful debut. She's not afraid. She's not here to
2:58:11
just you know, Oh, I'm just getting to wrestle and have my matches
2:58:15
and work my way up or just talk a little bit of smack and be
2:58:18
a Hills like, Nah, I'm here and I'm going straight to the top.
2:58:22
Now, I might get kicked all the way back down the ladder and
2:58:24
then have to fight my way back up, but at least I had a
2:58:28
debut that you're going to remember and it has some impact, and it immediately
2:58:31
makes me somebody that you have to care about and pay attention to. And
2:58:37
then from there you can roll that into her match with Nicky Cross and then
2:58:41
let her, you know, put the beat down on Nicky Cross afterwards to
2:58:45
further establish her. I think that would have been way better than you know,
2:58:50
what they did. We got a backstage segment with Kevin Owens and Sammy
2:58:58
Zane with uh Giovanni Vinci and Kayazer uh you know Challenge fun program, Yeah,
2:59:09
Challenge Imperium, basically challenging the tag Team Champions to a match. Um,
2:59:16
you know it was. They're always fun Kevin Owens is always fucking funny
2:59:20
backstage, you know, uh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.
2:59:26
They had a match later that night and obviously they won by pinfall with a
2:59:31
Hallulah kick from Sammy on Giovanni vinci Um very uh predictable there. Uh.
2:59:41
Backstage, we see Snity de Ville and Chelsea Green of circulating a petition and
2:59:45
address the injustices of the world. They approached Castlerey, Johnny Gargano and uh
2:59:52
now on the main roster Indie Hartwell to sign before revealing revealing that is actually
2:59:58
going to get them the a rematch for the tag titles as Indie s Dexter
3:00:03
loomis what he thinks. He gives them the thumbs down. Green and Deville
3:00:09
tell them they'll regret it, and then Gargano family talk about how the family
3:00:15
is back together. They did he hinted, he's hinted about bringing somebody else
3:00:22
on board. Right now, you think back when they had their their stable,
3:00:28
the only other person that was in that stable was Austin Theory. Now
3:00:33
they're not going to put Austin Theory back in that group. But I'll tell
3:00:37
you the one guy that they could that is Tamasa Champa. We can see
3:00:45
Tamasa Champa and Johnny Gargano reform Dioy. That would be an awesome fucking tag
3:00:52
team to challenge Kevin Owens and Sammy Zane. But yeah, and Indye Harwell
3:00:58
and Ghandista be right, tagg didn't too exactly and in both tagging divisions.
3:01:05
Well, aren't aren't the four of them? Uh? Aren't they all?
3:01:11
Aren't they already a Click in a NXT that were called the Way? Looking
3:01:15
at them and somebody else? All right, Yeah, I think I think
3:01:18
that's where they're gonna go with it, because according to some reports, Triple
3:01:22
H's has some plans for the Way as a faction. Now, maybe Tomasso
3:01:28
Champion does come back and become a member of the Way and they still and
3:01:31
they still move forward in that direction. But um, there are some reports
3:01:37
that state that Triple H does have plans for that faction, that this was
3:01:39
just you know there, you know, I guess revel their big reveal.
3:01:46
I guess that the Click has come back, even if it hasn't been officially
3:01:50
named yet, so it wouldn't be out of the revel possibility that at the
3:01:56
very least Indie Harwell and um Candice Laray you know, group up as a
3:02:00
tag team and both both tag team divisions need uh, I would say quite
3:02:07
a bit of help. Yeah, But like I think that it looks it
3:02:13
looks to me, at least on the on the female side, like they're
3:02:16
really gearing up to give it a run, give it a give it a
3:02:20
try, anyway of making it seem relevant. I mean, you got eight
3:02:26
eighth tennish almost uh like legit tag teams, and you could throw a couple
3:02:33
more together. Uh. But like I said, I want to see tag
3:02:37
team names, and I want to see uh, matching outfits or at least
3:02:43
complimentary outfits, and I want to see tag team moves, you know,
3:02:50
more cohesiveness, like like not just two people thrown together, just like it
3:02:56
seems like what the tag team division has been forever. You know, there
3:03:00
were legends like tag team wrestling used to be fucking huge, you know what
3:03:03
I mean. They used to call you know, um, you talk about
3:03:09
blade jobs. They used to talking about the mooda scale. That's how you
3:03:13
would rate blade jobs. They talk about LD pops and that was how you
3:03:18
knew how when a pop was and that's a tag team, you know,
3:03:20
like there could be can be tag teams and they can have go on runs
3:03:26
for like, you know, years and years and years. You just gonna
3:03:31
push it and get got you know, men and women to buy into it.
3:03:35
Yeah, definitely there was a tag team with the fucking fifteen awesome fifteen
3:03:39
years. I mean, the Uzos are gonna be all time greats in their
3:03:43
own right, you know, and they've been a tag team for how long
3:03:48
now and then you know, yes, you don't see it as often anymore,
3:03:52
but I mean legends, legends, legends. You could be a legendary
3:03:56
tag team. You don't have to be a single uh uh. And I
3:04:01
think if I wish they would put some more effort into both both divisions.
3:04:05
It looks certainly to me it looks like they're doing it for the women.
3:04:09
I hope they're gonna do it for the men. But tag team wrestling is
3:04:13
great, you know. Yeah, there used to be a time back in
3:04:16
the day when you know, tag team champions were arguably the second most popular
3:04:20
people in the company to the World Champions. Sure, the lineage is there,
3:04:26
the history is there. They just got to put the effort into the
3:04:30
booking to make people give a damn about it. And you know, it's
3:04:33
not enough to just to put them on popular names and think that's gonna be
3:04:37
enough. Like, you know, you got to develop legitimate fuse that people
3:04:41
are invested in and you know, fuse at the top, fuse in the
3:04:45
middle. You know, you gotta give people a reason to care about it,
3:04:48
and that's going to come down to how well they book it. Just
3:04:50
having a bunch of teams isn't enough. Performers too a reason to want to
3:04:54
do it, you know, because wants to be a single you know,
3:05:00
it wants to be a single star, you know. And that goes back
3:05:01
to Bob. That goes back to booking. That goes that goes back to
3:05:05
the booking. You have to book it so that people care about it.
3:05:09
If you give them quality feuds to you know, to that the wrestlers can
3:05:13
work with and do something with and you know, give and have the audience
3:05:18
care about it, then it can mean something. But if you're just throwing
3:05:22
names together or throwing teams together just to say you got a bunch of teams
3:05:24
and have them in just random, meaningless matches, just to fill out a
3:05:30
three hour time slot on Monday, then it ain't gonna be worth a shit.
3:05:35
Yeah, I mean, I mean. Tag team wrestling has been the
3:05:39
main event of WrestleMania only twice, you know, WrestleMania one and the most
3:05:45
recent WrestleMania RESUMEIA thirty nine. You know, like if if it happened a
3:05:50
little more often, maybe performers would be more likely to say, hey,
3:05:54
you know what, I'll devote the next five six years of my life or
3:06:00
my career to being in this tag team, you know what I mean,
3:06:03
Like they might see it as as a good career move rather than trying to
3:06:09
make it as a single you know. And I think if you put more
3:06:13
prestige on it for the performers, make it worth their while, uh,
3:06:20
maybe there'll be more receptive to it. And you know, I'm sure there
3:06:24
are people that are that are would be open to that, you know,
3:06:28
but you gotta incentivize them, you know, make them, make them say,
3:06:31
oh, wrestle you know, main event and WrestleMania is a realistic goal.
3:06:37
If we stick you in this tag team for the next five, six,
3:06:41
seven years, whatever it is, you know what I mean? Yeah,
3:06:43
I think many teams together forever, and you don't see it anymore.
3:06:46
I think mainuventy WrestleMania is reaching a little too far, but they can main
3:06:50
event other pay per views. Like you said, we're talking thirty nine pay
3:06:54
per views and only two of them have ever had a tag team main event.
3:06:58
I wouldn't look for that to change anytime soon, and I don't think
3:07:01
it, honestly, I don't think it should. The main event is always
3:07:03
a restumet is always focused around the world title, and I kind of think
3:07:07
it should say that way. But there have been plenty other pay per views
3:07:09
throughout the past that have been made invented by tag team matches, and there's
3:07:13
still plenty of room for that to still happen. The first couples on the
3:07:18
Slam right events for tag team matches, right your Summer Slams, You Fiber
3:07:22
Series, all, any any number of pay per views can be maine invented
3:07:26
by with tag team matches. Raws and smackdowns can be made invented with tag
3:07:31
team matches for titles. You just gotta book it so that people give a
3:07:35
damn, like I said, and it doesn't just you know, you said
3:07:39
resume he doesn't have to be the endgame, but you can elevate it enough
3:07:43
by through fuge and quality and main events and hopefully you know, lifted back
3:07:50
up to that point where people care. Um moving on. Uh. Later,
3:08:01
we did get a match with Zoey Stark and Nicky Cross. Zoe Stark
3:08:05
wins by pinfall with the Z three sixty. Backstage, re Ripley and Dominic
3:08:13
Mysteriore interviewed. She says she welcomes the pressure, but Xavier Woods and Eric
3:08:20
Accurate Sizawa come along in the middle and have a giggle fit. Dominic tells
3:08:26
him stopp being so disrespectful. Woods tells him he got dressed out of a
3:08:31
lost and found, and Xavier challenges Mysteria to a match, Re accepts for
3:08:37
him. Tizawa disappears and Woods goes looking for him. Also, meanwhile,
3:08:43
tris Stradis is handing out flyers for missing Becky Lynch. Tris Stradis makes her
3:08:50
entrance and gets on the mic and ask if anyone has sing Becky Lynch,
3:08:56
reassuring Kevin Patrick that she's gonna find his fellow Irish for him and everything's gonna
3:09:01
be okay. She used all her platforms and tools, and we're gonna find
3:09:07
Becky and we're gonna and when she is, we're gonna thank her for it.
3:09:11
She says she'll probably find her crying in the corner with her dumb daughter
3:09:16
who is two and can't even name her colors, and she won't be coming
3:09:22
back to roll because nobody steals Trish's spotlight, which is a promo we've heard
3:09:26
before from Trish. Becky Lynch music plays and Trish laughs about her obvious ruse.
3:09:35
When nobody comes out, she says, Becky's never coming back and wants
3:09:39
to tell us a little story. First off, I'm gonna stop Trish right
3:09:43
there. You can't do it like Shawn Michael's day when he faked Bret Hart
3:09:48
coming back in Canada and got everybody. That is what I thought of.
3:09:54
I was like, okay, Trish, You're no fucking Shawn Michaels. Becky's
3:10:00
music plays again, and Trice frantically calls for the truck to cut the music
3:10:05
because the joke is done, But of course Becky's in the ring behind her.
3:10:09
She decks Chris Stratus with a series of punches before hitting the explode.
3:10:13
Her Suppleaux and sending her packing. Lynch gets on the mic to tell Tris
3:10:16
the man is back and it's going to kick her ass. Specifically, we'll
3:10:22
go to the trainer's room where Adam Pearce is getting an update on Cody Road
3:10:26
status and Kevin Owns and Sammy Zane or there from moral support. Then we
3:10:31
get Dominique versus Xavier Woods. Dominic wins by pinfall with the crucifix pin and
3:10:37
a handful of tights. Okay, and yeah, I guess, I guess
3:10:46
the match ends with the night ends with the match between Seth Rollins and Finn
3:10:50
Balor, which Finn Balor Seth Rollins wins by pinfall with Blackout, advancing to
3:11:00
the tournament finals at Night of champions Yes, that poses with the World Heavyweight
3:11:05
Championship, and it looks fucking beautiful. Uh. You know that really sums
3:11:13
up raw. Uh. I don't know if you guys have anything else you
3:11:18
want to at two raw? Nope, nope. Most of the Raw was
3:11:22
completely skippable pretty much, right. They just meant they fucked a huge opportunity
3:11:30
to have a fucking really awesome tournament. They said they would have a tournament.
3:11:35
They missed a fucking golden opportunity to have a fucking really awesome tournament.
3:11:41
They fucked it. I don't know what. I don't know what the fuck
3:11:43
they were thinking. Yeah, they did not have to work at the whack.
3:11:48
The way they did it was whack. I don't I just I perplexed.
3:11:54
I don't understand. I think we all saw sath Browlins as the ultimate
3:11:58
winner regardless. But like Jesus Christ, I mean, I know, you
3:12:05
only have three weeks or whatever, but you can still have a have a
3:12:09
sixteen man tournament or somethin like eight man tournament, a twelve man tournament with
3:12:16
four people getting first round buys something. But this, this is two triple
3:12:24
threat matches and the winners fight each other, and you've got six people from
3:12:28
the other brand when you just made this big brand split. It doesn't make
3:12:31
any fucking sense. Yeah, they did not have to rush this this tournament
3:12:39
and the way that they did, Like we did not have to get all
3:12:43
the weight to the finals in one show or in one week, because then
3:12:46
what do you what are you gonna do for the rest of for these last
3:12:50
two weeks you have to build up, like you don't you don't need two
3:12:52
weeks of build up to the finals of a tournament. The tournament itself is
3:12:56
the build up and the finals is the final payoff, so they easily something
3:13:03
of that nature. But even if you could have done just the Triple threats
3:13:07
this week and then done the semifinal match next week, and then the last
3:13:11
week before and then the last week going into it, maybe you give them
3:13:15
a face to face fine, but yeah, you didn't have to drag all
3:13:18
this out or rush all this through in one show, and it to me,
3:13:22
it just seems like rushed booking and they just didn't have anything else to
3:13:26
fill out the show with, so they just threw all this in into one
3:13:31
show to just fill it out. And yeah, that's it's it's weak booking,
3:13:39
regardless of how excuse me, regardless of the quality of the matches themselves.
3:13:46
Because now, after SmackDown this past after SmackDown this Friday, your finals
3:13:50
are set, and now you got to make people give a shit about it
3:13:54
for two weeks. That's uh. Yeah, Well, I got some news
3:14:03
we can blow through here, Matt Riddles Dick, We're gonna start on thirty
3:14:18
seven year old Superstar racently had an explicit video leaked on the internet, and
3:14:22
a recent report shed some light on the situation. According to Ringside News,
3:14:26
Matt Riddles sent the video to someone on Snapchat and didn't I expect it to
3:14:31
be shown to the public. The original bro sent the video to his own
3:14:37
on his own and was not hacked like other wrestlers who have been who had
3:14:41
personal media leaked on the internet in the past. The person Ryal sent the
3:14:46
video to, downloaded it from Snapchat and shared it on the internet. Bummer
3:14:52
bro. Also, Carlino could be making more appearances after such as high praise
3:15:01
at and the reaction he got from the last pay per view backlash. We
3:15:09
could see more of Carlato, which I would love to see more Carlato to
3:15:13
be honest, Yeah, I hope so. I love carlytough. I liked
3:15:16
him. I liked him then, uh now and for him forever. Hopefully
3:15:24
he's Hopefully he is matured since then, because apparently that's what led to his
3:15:28
downfall the first time around, and some of the issues that he had was
3:15:31
his lack of maturity is what caused problems back. Hope he's grown up since
3:15:37
then. I dearly remember hearing when he came back for the Royal Rumble two
3:15:43
or three years ago, whenever it was um. One of the things that
3:15:46
they were saying was that he had changed quite a bit and the same I
3:15:50
heard the same again after this show that was in the dirt sheets, that
3:15:54
he had matured quite a bit, and the office was impressed with that.
3:16:00
I would love to see it. I loved I liked him quite a bit.
3:16:03
If he has, yeah, I'm all for him coming back and having
3:16:05
a having another little run. Yeah, Morgan and Raquel want to face Cardi
3:16:16
B and Megan d Stallion. Stop it? Sure, It's just stop it
3:16:24
right? Uh Sure. Finn Balor got revenge on Seth Rollins seven years later,
3:16:31
back in twenty sixteen. He threw him into the ride barricade, thank
3:16:39
you and separated his shoulders, so he got that sweet revenge on him.
3:16:43
Yeah. That was the first, uh the match for the crown, the
3:16:50
first Universal Champion, right m uh Wwe hit brock Lessner from his Row appearance.
3:16:56
Fightful reports that brock Lesser was hidden with two large stage hands to get
3:17:03
him a ringside for the spot. They pushed him in a trunk ringside to
3:17:07
hide him. That's a pretty big fucking trunk. All LWO members got matching
3:17:15
tattoos. Ray Mastereo, Selena Vega, Cruiz del Toro, Santos Escobar,
3:17:20
and Joaquin Wild all got matching l WO tattoos before WW backlash. Hopefully they
3:17:28
don't regret it, like the Suicide Squad tattoos, where Ronda Rousi joins the
3:17:35
cast of Stars on Mars the summer this summer, Lance Armstrong, Marshall,
3:17:43
Lynch, Are Markshawn Lynch, Ronda Rousey, and Tein Shape. I can't
3:17:52
pronounce this, that's the one. Are the twelve are among the twelve celebrities
3:17:58
packing their backs for boxes Stars on Mars, an unscripted series originally ordered in
3:18:03
April that takes the Takes Put, That takes put real World stars in competition
3:18:09
to conquer the planet in via assimilation. Of course, as they received orders
3:18:16
from Mission control. William Shatner, legendary star Trek actor, Well, but
3:18:22
I guess and set? How about I guess Rhonda and Shane at winning the
3:18:24
tag titles no time soon? Then if she got step away to do reality
3:18:28
TV, yeah, which I am perfectly fine with. If they're going yeah,
3:18:37
oh yeah, that is true, it could have already been filmed bad
3:18:41
Bunny and Debbie. Debbie could be could reportedly collaborate again for SummerSlam this year.
3:18:48
It'd be great. I think I'm giving him a match with Roman.
3:18:52
I mean, hell fucking Logan Paul had imagined Roman. Why not? You
3:18:58
know? Uh it? It delays him having to defend the title again.
3:19:03
Somebody for real and the U. The last thing in news I have here
3:19:11
is Nick Kahn says the writer strike will not affect WWE TV, and I
3:19:16
said, no shit, because everything gets rewritten by Vince anyway. So that's
3:19:24
all I got for news. I don't think I would be surprised if ww
3:19:28
writers are even part of the Writers Guild, Knowing the way Vince likes to
3:19:31
control everything, I would imagine that they're prohibited from joining the Writers Guild union.
3:19:37
I don't think so. I mean, you think about there, there's
3:19:41
no wrestlers union, and those guys are They aren't considered employees, They're consider
3:19:46
they're treated as independent contractors, which is why he doesn't have to provide insurance
3:19:50
or anything of that nature. So, I mean, Jess, the body
3:19:54
Ventura famously tried to start a union, was unsuccessful, right, So the
3:20:00
fact that I'm saying that you know. Oh, the Writers Guild stripe won't
3:20:03
affect w W presilent w W programming. Well another news water's wet dough?
3:20:09
Yeah? Really? Uh? Do you guys have anything else in news rumors
3:20:13
that you want to find a win? There anyone? Uh Doyle? Do
3:20:22
you want to plug anything? I'm just I'm here on PCW, I'm in
3:20:30
the Discord, also the pop Culture Left Leftovers Discord and in the Army Page.
3:20:37
Dah Uh that's about it. Uh goo Celtics continue to get better than
3:20:45
nick? Uh Dre, What do you got to plug? I know we
3:20:50
took you away from a PCL episode, but you know we know where you're
3:20:56
allegiance is a live Yeah. I mean you can find me in uh PCW
3:21:01
and PCL Discord and Outlaw start. You find me in the PCL Facebook group,
3:21:05
Drey Moore. Um, y'all check out our PCW website. We've only
3:21:11
got one of those up and running um for myself personally. Um. Outside
3:21:16
of this, you can also catch me on an upcoming episode of PCL.
3:21:20
Up so regular episode of PCL. I won't say which one. You'll just
3:21:24
have to catch it and listen to it when it drops. Yeah, yeah,
3:21:31
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3:22:16
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3:23:01
that's it, fellas. Let's a ramp list up your enemies be heard in
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the face of people who don't want to be cold. You know what cools
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your Welcome to the island of en Champian. This is Puerto Rico. Welcome
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cut backlash for your seventy eight thousand, nine three four. But here can
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I who like to me big, to me, big made up looking combody.
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The backlash is coming. Hey, loo' gonna now now my good day
3:24:46
stare Jerry domes slashly and he retains the final. He leave us now not
3:24:54
just fighting for herself in the championship, She's fighting on behalf of all Breca
3:25:01
turn alone. Who I'm gonna gonna go along? You're number mush two bedrooms
3:25:11
can't do them. Some bad charms's gonna get on. Don't you can't now,
3:25:41
don't you can't go? The day's hair everytime, even the numbers,
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Carlado's hair, the look, the Old World and his name is Johncey me
3:26:33
what I want, Get me what I want. Always true. It's stamp.
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It doesn't matter what your name. M oh yeah, we'll screw you
3:27:07
guys. I'm going home. Bye, have a great time.