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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 4-29-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 3: is gonna join us to talk a little NBA basketball,
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Speaker 3: to talk a little Utah Jazz, and that's probably where
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Speaker 3: we should start the show today because there is a
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Speaker 3: there's an initiative being pushed through to the owners from
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Speaker 3: the NBA Board of Governors, an anti tanking measure, a
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Speaker 3: three to two one. They're calling it lottery system to
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Speaker 3: disincentivize the tanking that has plagued the NBA. And the
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Speaker 3: reason this is story number one for me today is
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Speaker 3: because the Jazz were kind of made into the face
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Speaker 3: of tanking in the NBA this year, and I've made
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Speaker 3: my thoughts on the matter pretty clear.
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Speaker 2: I don't think that they should. I don't think that
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Speaker 2: was fair.
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Speaker 3: I thought that the Jazz were scapegoaded in a way
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Speaker 3: that didn't make a ton of sense to me that
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Speaker 3: I thought was heavily influenced by the betting partners, the
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Speaker 3: wagering partners of the NBA saying, Hey, I don't like
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Speaker 3: this Will Hardy rule where you're playing guys for three
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Speaker 3: quarters and then you're sitting them down in the fourth.
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Speaker 3: It throws off our wagering systems, it throws off our favorites,
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Speaker 3: it throws off our handicappers, and it's going to cost
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Speaker 3: our online sportsbook a lot of money. So you got
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Speaker 3: to tell them to stop doing that, And of course
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Speaker 3: the NBA did. They forced the Utah Jazz to pay
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Speaker 3: a fine and to again be kind of the example
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Speaker 3: made to the rest of the NBA on what is
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Speaker 3: acceptable when it comes to tanking and what is not.
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Speaker 3: So what does it mean for the Utah Jazz in
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Speaker 3: this draft, Well, nothing at all. If it passes through
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Speaker 3: the owners, which I think it's going to, it will
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Speaker 3: be a twenty twenty seven change takes effect.
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Speaker 2: There is a.
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Speaker 3: Focus right now for the NBA on the playoffs that
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Speaker 3: are happening, as there should be, but this is the
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Speaker 3: future of NBA basketball.
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Speaker 2: We're talking about.
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Speaker 3: A lottery reform proposal to stop what we have come
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Speaker 3: we've just kind of grown accustomed to in the NBA.
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Speaker 3: So they let all thirty general managers know about a
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Speaker 3: new anti taking draft. They're calling it the three two
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Speaker 3: one Lottery. It expands the draft lottery.
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Speaker 2: To sixteen teams.
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Speaker 3: It flattens the odds odds, It creates a what they
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Speaker 3: have called the relegation zone where the bottom three teams,
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Speaker 3: instead of being rewarded for being a bottom three team,
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Speaker 3: they're actually penalized in the draft with fewer lottery balls
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Speaker 3: for the number one pick. And as I said, it
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Speaker 3: would start in twenty twenty seven, So the race to
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Speaker 3: the bottom is no longer something that you're incentivized to do.
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Speaker 3: The race to the bottom is now something that actually
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Speaker 3: hurts you. If you're a bottom three team under this
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Speaker 3: new proposed rule, you have fewer lottery balls, you have
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Speaker 3: fewer chances to get that number one pick. There was
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Speaker 3: also conversation about changing the rules so that you would
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Speaker 3: not be able to win the top pick in consecutive years,
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Speaker 3: and you cannot win three consecutive top five picks, So
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Speaker 3: not only that number one pick, but you could not
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Speaker 3: pick three times in the top five of the NBA lottery. Essentially,
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Speaker 3: this is the NBA the owners being told, Hey, you
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Speaker 3: cannot ask your fan base, you cannot ask our television partners.
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Speaker 2: You cannot ask us to.
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Speaker 3: Tolerate a half decade or three years or five years
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Speaker 3: or whatever of misery with the promise of a better future.
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Speaker 3: You can't just say, hey, it'll be better next year
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Speaker 3: or next year or the next year or the next year.
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Speaker 2: We need you to work on getting better right now.
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Speaker 3: We are not going to reward you for being the
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Speaker 3: worst team in the league or being one of the
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Speaker 3: worst teams in the league year after year after year.
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Speaker 3: It's an interesting proposal. It's one that I think gives
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Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of food for thought to
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Speaker 3: the teams that are in this situation right now. And
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Speaker 3: it's funny because we kind of expect that the Utah Jazz,
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Speaker 3: even though they may be fomented this rebellion, they were
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Speaker 3: the reason for a sincere look or one of the
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Speaker 3: main reasons for a sincere look at the draft lottery
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Speaker 3: process by the NBA. We kind of expect that after
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Speaker 3: they get this top eight pick in a deep draft
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Speaker 3: class here in twenty twenty six that they're gonna exit
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Speaker 3: this upation, that they're going to be more of a
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Speaker 3: playing team, And I guess this dude lottery would affect
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Speaker 3: some of the playing teams. And under the new proposal,
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Speaker 3: you're loser of the the seven eight game receive one
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Speaker 3: lottery ball, and the nine to ten play in scenes
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Speaker 3: each get two lot of reballs in what is I
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Speaker 3: think a total of thirty seven a lot of reballs
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Speaker 3: out there. But the Jazz are for the most part
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Speaker 3: trying to play themselves out of and draft this year,
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Speaker 3: draft themselves out of the conversation for Hey, are you
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Speaker 3: one of the worst franchises in the league. Are you
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Speaker 3: a team that is going to be bad enough that
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Speaker 3: this rule change affects you? Most people in Salt Lake City,
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Speaker 3: I think people in the building down there at the
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Speaker 3: Delta Center and the new practice facility down to Southtown
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Speaker 3: will tell you that, like, yeah, this rule change might
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Speaker 3: be good at it. We're going to support it because
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Speaker 3: it's not going to be directly related to us in
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Speaker 3: the same way it would have been in these last
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Speaker 3: three to five years.
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Speaker 2: The proposal also.
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Speaker 3: Also includes an out for even the teams that support
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Speaker 3: it after the twenty twenty nine drafts, so you would
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Speaker 3: run it in twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight, and
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty nine. The current proposal allows for reevaluation, allows
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Speaker 3: for a hey, well is this working?
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Speaker 2: Does this make sense for everyone? Is this something we
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Speaker 2: want to continue? And that.
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Speaker 3: Coincides with the end of the current collective bargaining agreement
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Speaker 3: which runs through the twenty thirty season, so after twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty nine, which of course means then the twenty thirty draft.
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Speaker 3: If collective bargaining comes out with something new, hopefully there's
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Speaker 3: no work stopping, there's no strike, there's no whatever. The
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Speaker 3: league can say, all right, this new draft system worked
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Speaker 3: or it didn't work, so let's see what we got here.
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Speaker 2: I liked the proposal. I think that.
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Speaker 3: I think that the NBA made it pretty clear they
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Speaker 3: wanted to make a change. I don't like the fact
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Speaker 3: that the Utah Jazz became the poster children for the
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Speaker 3: tanking problem and blamed for something that was a league wide,
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Speaker 3: decades long situation. But if it incentivized the potential change
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Speaker 3: moving forward, so be it.
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Speaker 2: And ultimately the five.
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Speaker 3: Hundred thousand dollars fine doesn't really hurt people. Too badly,
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Speaker 3: with all respect to the Smith Entertainment Group, A five
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Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars fine, It's not exactly excessively punitive for
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Speaker 3: people that are in that situation. The principle of it bothersome.
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Speaker 3: The practicality of.
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Speaker 2: It really does affect a whole lot.
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Speaker 3: So eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred,
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Speaker 3: what do you make of this new proposal to disincentivized tanking,
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Speaker 3: the three two one lottery system, and the effective alteration
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Speaker 3: of a decades long incentive program for NBA teams to
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Speaker 3: when they're not going to be good.
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Speaker 2: If we're not going to be good, we're not.
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Speaker 3: Going to be a playoff team, then let's be like
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Speaker 3: really really really bad. Let's be as bad as we
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Speaker 3: possibly can and see if we can get ourselves into
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Speaker 3: that top pick position. Now, you will be punished for
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Speaker 3: losing that much. You will be punished for being in
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Speaker 3: that conversation. If you are one of the first three
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Speaker 3: teams in the league, the worst three teams in the league,
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Speaker 3: you don't get the number one pick.
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Speaker 2: We're going to reduce your odds of getting that number
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Speaker 2: one pick, all right.
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Speaker 3: If you're stuck in that sort of purgatory of always
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Speaker 3: being a bad team. I know nobody wants to be there,
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Speaker 3: wants to stay there, but this, in a certain way
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Speaker 3: forces you to make changes faster, forces you to Hey,
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Speaker 3: if we don't have the right coach, we got to
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Speaker 3: move on from that coach, If we don't have the
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Speaker 3: right GM team president, we have to move on from
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Speaker 3: these people because there is.
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Speaker 2: Now no reward for being bad.
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Speaker 3: And by the way, there never should have been a
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Speaker 3: reward for being bad. Like I understand that it was
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Speaker 3: all done in the interest of parody, but as human
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Speaker 3: beings often do, they took the rules and they we
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Speaker 3: manipulated them in such a way that we we went
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Speaker 3: away from it being like, all right, this encouraged parody
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Speaker 3: to like this rewards being terrible. Professional athletes, professional coaches
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Speaker 3: don't want to be in a situation that the Utah
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Speaker 3: jass had been.
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Speaker 2: In the last four years.
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Speaker 3: They don't want to be racing towards irrelevance, irrelevance, irrelevancy
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Speaker 3: eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. Tell
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Speaker 3: me which of those is the correct use of the word. James,
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Speaker 3: you're a big NBA guy. If you're back there in
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Speaker 3: our Broadway Studios and dial in right now.
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Speaker 2: What do you make of it? What do you make
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Speaker 2: of the proposed change?
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Speaker 4: I think this is better than even the one that
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Speaker 4: seemed to have the most momentum as of I think
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Speaker 4: last week they were reporting the one that was probably
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Speaker 4: going to go through was the eighteen team lottery system.
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Speaker 4: I like this sixteen team better than that. In theory,
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Speaker 4: I could see them sort of punishing. They're calling it
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Speaker 4: relegation for being the one of the bottom three teams
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Speaker 4: in the league. I can see that deterring teams from
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Speaker 4: wanting to lose on purpose to improve their lottery odds,
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Speaker 4: because this that would not improve their lottery odds. But
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Speaker 4: then I'm not sure if that doesn't just teams don't
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Speaker 4: just adjust and be like, okay, we will be the
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Speaker 4: fourth or fifth worst team in the league. Well instead,
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Speaker 4: you know, I don't know, well you are.
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Speaker 3: Going to get You are going to get some of
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Speaker 3: that right where teams instead of trying to be number
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Speaker 3: one in the bad race, they're going to try to
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Speaker 3: be number four because they're going to try to maximize
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Speaker 3: their odds that way, but flattening the probabilities it from
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Speaker 3: like four to eight or whatever means that there will
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Speaker 3: be I think, less manipulation of that. The other thing
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Speaker 3: here that's in the proposal, that's like it's a throwaway
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Speaker 3: line in all the articles, all the write ups, but
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Speaker 3: it's not really a throwaway. Is that I need the
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Speaker 3: details on this. The league would also have expanded disciplinary
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Speaker 3: authority to regulate tanking and have the option to reduce
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Speaker 3: lottery odds and modified draft positions for teams under the
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Speaker 3: new proposal. That is going to be a major roadblock
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Speaker 3: for owners when they get to see what the details
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Speaker 3: of that look like. Expanding disciplinary authority? What does it
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Speaker 3: look like? Is it large? Is it larger finds, because
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Speaker 3: larger finds you can probably deal with. Is it something
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Speaker 3: more significant than that you can take away draft picks
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Speaker 3: from us?
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of ways you can you
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Speaker 2: cannot excuse me, you can characterize expanded disciplinary authority.
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Speaker 4: I would the only thing I when I think about that,
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Speaker 4: I would hope that it's not so. I would hope
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Speaker 4: that there's some kind of set process, criteria, whatever term
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Speaker 4: you want to use, so that it's not just when
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Speaker 4: Adam Silver feels like this team is the worst right now,
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Speaker 4: so we're going to take away this many draft picks.
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Speaker 4: This time, we feel like this team's not quite the worst,
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Speaker 4: but they're still pretty bad, so we're going to take
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Speaker 4: away one less draft pick. I just hope it's not
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Speaker 4: just an arbitrary like the fines have been the last
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Speaker 4: couple of years, particularly with the Jazz being fined you
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Speaker 4: referenced earlier in February. I believe it was for the
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Speaker 4: egregious tanking that the league characterize it as in five
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Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars finds. Oh, but we're finding the Pacers too,
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Speaker 4: but only one hundred thousand because they're not quite as regius.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying all the punishments should be universal, but
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Speaker 4: it did seem way too subjective, way too arbitrary. I
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Speaker 4: hope there's some kind of criteria that makes sense to
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Speaker 4: everyone once a punishment gets dealt out. If that makes sense.
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Speaker 3: And by the way, if I'm Ryan Smith, if I'm
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Speaker 3: the Utah Jazz, I need to know the exact fine
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Speaker 3: print on this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because.
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Speaker 3: The arbitrary punishments, the examples being made the unfair if
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Speaker 3: you want to call it, that enforcement of certain rules
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Speaker 3: is not going to be put at the feet of
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Speaker 3: the New York Knicks. They're not gonna do it to
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Speaker 3: the LA Lakers, and it's not even a market sized thing.
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Speaker 3: They're not gonna do it to the San Antonio Spurs
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Speaker 3: because the Spurs are kind.
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Speaker 2: Of like the Green Bay Packers.
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Speaker 3: They have this like prestigious sort of reputation despite being
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Speaker 3: a small market team. You're what you're gonna do is
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Speaker 3: you're going to make an example out of the Charlotte
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Speaker 3: Hornets and the Utah Jazz and teams like that if
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Speaker 3: you have that expanded disciplinary authority. I'm telling you, if
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Speaker 3: I'm in that room, if I'm Austin Ainge, if I'm
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Speaker 3: Ryan Smith, if I'm Will Hardy, if I'm anyone, I'm like,
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Speaker 3: hold on a minute, tell me what expanded disciplinary authority means.
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Speaker 3: Because last time you threw a fine at us that
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Speaker 3: was larger than anyone else's fine, even though we were
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Speaker 3: doing something that in a lot of ways was better
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Speaker 3: for your fans, maybe worse for your betting partners, but
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Speaker 3: it was better for your fans, and you still punished
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Speaker 3: us harshly.
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Speaker 4: So and by the way, Spence check Its was was
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Speaker 4: on this really well. Once that went down, he wasn't
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Speaker 4: necessarily on board with it being unfair that the Jazz
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Speaker 4: were being fined at all, but he was saying, why
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Speaker 4: isn't everyone else being f and the Pacers, to be fair,
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Speaker 4: were but the Wizards never got fined for never playing
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Speaker 4: Trey Young basically, for never playing Anthony Davis after trading
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Speaker 4: for both of them, basically, and they were not ruled
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Speaker 4: out as season ending injuries right away, right they were.
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Speaker 4: So the Kings, the Kings stopped trying to win in
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Speaker 4: like December, right like it, and nothing went down for them,
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Speaker 4: no fine for them. It's that sort of thing where
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Speaker 4: it's like where it's like, okay, we need just like
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Speaker 4: you're saying, we need some kind of set fine print here,
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Speaker 4: we need some details on how you're going to dole
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Speaker 4: out these potential disciplinary actions, because it can't just be
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Speaker 4: willy nilly arbitrary subjective like we saw this past season.
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Speaker 3: All involved parties would be allowed to voice their opinions
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Speaker 3: on this. The commissioner said, I think it's a just
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Speaker 3: decision that has to be made at the ownership.
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Speaker 2: Level, which is of course one hundred percent right.
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Speaker 3: You're not going to get anything through, and I hope
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Speaker 3: that there's some level of debate. I hope that there's
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Speaker 3: some level of pushback on this, but I do believe
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Speaker 3: that it's a solid proposal.
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Speaker 2: There's another thing here. I just want to make sure.
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Speaker 3: I'm putting out all the right details. Teams would not
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Speaker 3: be able to protect picks that are in the twelve
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Speaker 3: to fifteen range going forward in the NBA lottery, So
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Speaker 3: you not have protected picks between twelve and fifteen. I
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Speaker 3: don't like that they call it the relegation area, being
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Speaker 3: in the bottom three if you're not actually going to relegate.
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Speaker 3: I know we don't have a system that allows that
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Speaker 3: in pro sports right now. I guess you could bring
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Speaker 3: up a G League team if you really wanted to.
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Speaker 3: I guess you could say, all right, the Jazz are
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Speaker 3: really really terrible right now, where the Portland Trailblazers are
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Speaker 3: an embarrassment to us, so we're going to bring up
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Speaker 3: the like Tulsa sixty six ers, I think is the
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Speaker 3: name of their Pro basketball, their G League team, if
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Speaker 3: they still have one. I love the promotion and relegation
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Speaker 3: thing that they have over in European soccer.
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Speaker 2: I think it's awesome. I think that if they're in
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Speaker 2: a perfect world.
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Speaker 3: You can find a way to make it be a
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Speaker 3: thing in college sports in the United States of America,
22:35
Speaker 3: promotion and relegation, but it's not going to work in
22:38
Speaker 3: the NBA, So call it something else. The relegation area.
22:43
Speaker 3: What you're relegating them to what no picks?
22:49
Speaker 4: You're relegating them to the number eight pick instead of
22:52
Speaker 4: the number three pick.
22:53
Speaker 3: Like, oh man, if you are in that bottom three,
22:57
Speaker 3: excuse me that bottom three. Record wise, you you could
23:03
Speaker 3: not pick lower than number twelve. So you're protected. You're
23:07
Speaker 3: not going to get completely stuck out of the lottery.
23:10
Speaker 3: You're not going to drop out into like the twenties
23:12
Speaker 3: at the end of the first round, but you would
23:17
Speaker 3: have you know, your odds reduced, you take away a
23:19
Speaker 3: lottery ball.
23:21
Speaker 2: You take that ball and you go home.
23:25
Speaker 4: The twelve. And the way this is different, and I
23:28
Speaker 4: think that this is a pretty good provision in this model.
23:32
Speaker 4: The way that twelve being the lowest you could pick
23:36
Speaker 4: is different is like right now, it's it's it's four.
23:41
Speaker 4: It's four spots lower than your final like standings position
23:45
Speaker 4: in the standings, So the Jazz finished fourth this year,
23:49
Speaker 4: the lowest they can pick, it's eighth. In this model,
23:52
Speaker 4: if the Jazz were a were the third worst team,
23:56
Speaker 4: instead of the lowest they could pick being seventh, it
23:58
Speaker 4: would be the lowest they could pick its two wealth.
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Speaker 4: I think that that's I like that because it doesn't
24:05
Speaker 4: like last season the Jazz. The Jazz had the worst
24:08
Speaker 4: record and they got the fifth pick, and the under
24:12
Speaker 4: this current model that we're in, the Jazz and other
24:15
Speaker 4: teams that wanted to tank over multiple years, they could
24:19
Speaker 4: just get the worst record every year and get it
24:21
Speaker 4: and guarantee a top five pick. That's not really a
24:24
Speaker 4: curb against tanking. This only being guaranteed a twelfth pick
24:29
Speaker 4: in theory, I think that that would discourage the tanking.
24:32
Speaker 4: But we'll just have to see.
24:34
Speaker 3: And here's the thing. There's no perfect system. So this
24:39
Speaker 3: is an effort towards trying to disincentivize tanking. It in
24:43
Speaker 3: order to keep everyone happy, in order to make it
24:47
Speaker 3: so that nobody tries to manipulate the rules.
24:51
Speaker 2: You just that's not possible. Right.
24:53
Speaker 3: We have seen human nature as such that if there's
24:57
Speaker 3: a rule in place, one of the first things we
25:00
Speaker 3: do as human beings is we figure out how to
25:02
Speaker 3: circumvent that rule. All Right, Is there some fine print here?
25:07
Speaker 3: Is there an asterisk I can exploit? Is there a
25:10
Speaker 3: technicality that nobody here has thought of? I mean, that's
25:15
Speaker 3: what we do, and teams will absolutely do that, James,
25:19
Speaker 3: you already pointed out the most obvious one. Well, if
25:23
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be penalized and lose a lottery ball for
25:26
Speaker 3: being the worst the second worst of the third worst team,
25:30
Speaker 3: I'll just be the fourth worst team and then I
25:32
Speaker 3: have good odds. But I just I don't lose that
25:35
Speaker 3: lottery ball. But the nice thing here is that you know,
25:39
Speaker 3: the fourth worst team doesn't have a.
25:41
Speaker 2: Better shot than.
25:44
Speaker 3: Anyone all the way up until the play in teams,
25:48
Speaker 3: as far as I can understand it.
25:50
Speaker 2: Right, So do I want three lottery balls? All right?
25:55
Speaker 2: I could be the fourth worst team.
25:56
Speaker 3: I can also be the eighth worst team.
26:03
Speaker 2: Good on the NBA for trying, Good on the Utah Jazz.
26:08
Speaker 3: For being the the team that really.
26:15
Speaker 2: Started this ball rolling.
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Speaker 4: I think the NBA should should give them five hundred
26:20
Speaker 4: thousand dollars for tanking over four years. Right, And it's like,
26:23
Speaker 4: you know.
26:23
Speaker 3: What, I know what, Thank you keep your five keep
26:25
Speaker 3: your five hundred grand. I think I speak for Ryan smith.
26:28
Speaker 3: You like said, when I speak for keep the five
26:30
Speaker 3: hundred grand, that's a tax right off.
26:33
Speaker 2: On some level.
26:34
Speaker 3: They donate that to charity, so it's probably been put
26:37
Speaker 3: to good use those fines.
26:39
Speaker 2: Great, wonderful, happy.
26:41
Speaker 3: Now, instead of giving me that money back, give me
26:44
Speaker 3: an extra lottery ball.
26:45
Speaker 2: Whenever this thing is implemented. Just throw an extra one in.
26:49
Speaker 4: There, just as a thank you, you know what. Thank
26:51
Speaker 4: you for being so bad that it pissed so many
26:55
Speaker 4: people off. And our betting partners are the ones that
26:58
Speaker 4: we don't want to say publicly, but they're the one
27:00
Speaker 4: who got really mad at this forced us to take
27:03
Speaker 4: this seriously. So thank you for being so bad that
27:06
Speaker 4: forced us to make some changes. Here, here's another lottery ball.
27:09
Speaker 4: You get four this year.
27:11
Speaker 3: I can't even I can't even fathom, by the way,
27:15
Speaker 3: like starting a company, because like the Fandoel and the DraftKings, guys,
27:19
Speaker 3: they were pretty young the people who started those companies, right,
27:22
Speaker 3: starting a company, and then you know, five to ten
27:25
Speaker 3: years later, you're literally picking up the phone and you're
27:28
Speaker 3: telling the NBA what to do.
27:31
Speaker 2: That is bananas. Imagine what that's like.
27:37
Speaker 3: I can't all right, we're gonna we're gonna take a
27:41
Speaker 3: quick one here in a few minutes, and Harry Douglas
27:44
Speaker 3: is gonna join us, the co host of Freddy and
27:49
Speaker 3: HD with Freddy Coleman. Yep, but we're up here at
27:52
Speaker 3: the Paris RV tent sale. This is we've been here before.
27:56
Speaker 3: It's great every single year. And the brains behind the
27:59
Speaker 3: operation Brett.
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Speaker 2: What's up? How are you sir?
28:02
Speaker 6: Doing great? How are you?
28:03
Speaker 2: I'm doing all right. Good to see you again, Good
28:04
Speaker 2: to see you. So every single year we.
28:08
Speaker 3: Come up and we talk about what you've got going
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Speaker 3: on with these used RVs, the fifth wheels, the ten trailers.
28:14
Speaker 3: I was telling the people just within like my vision
28:18
Speaker 3: here sitting down, you've got a broad broad array. You've
28:22
Speaker 3: got the trailers, the tow behinds, you've got the motor homes,
28:25
Speaker 3: you've got the Airstream, the iconic you know, chrome profile
28:29
Speaker 3: a bad thing.
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Speaker 2: And the selection goes on and on through the whole
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Speaker 2: parking lot.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, like even this little pop top van
28:35
Speaker 7: here right, there's some class as, some Class c's. We
28:37
Speaker 7: got stuff as low as five grand, but then there's
28:40
Speaker 7: stuff as much as over one hundred, and you know,
28:43
Speaker 7: some of them amazed me. Because I walked in a
28:45
Speaker 7: couple of them and they hadn't even been unwrapped yet.
28:48
Speaker 7: They're supposedly supposedly used, you know, But there's a couple
28:52
Speaker 7: of them in here that.
28:52
Speaker 6: Look brand new to me.
28:54
Speaker 7: And if you don't see something you like here, there's
28:56
Speaker 7: a holding yard with a couple hundred more. So as
28:59
Speaker 7: we as we say all I'm out of this place,
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Speaker 7: we'll take it out and put another one back at
29:02
Speaker 7: its spot.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Look, if you're like me, and you're like, Okay, I
29:05
Speaker 3: don't really know what I need, but I got this
29:08
Speaker 3: many kids, I got this vehicle to pull, can you
29:12
Speaker 3: point me in the right direction?
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Speaker 7: Absolutely, that's that's the key right there. What are you
29:16
Speaker 7: gonna what are you gonna do it with? How many
29:18
Speaker 7: gonna sleep? How are you gonna store it?
29:20
Speaker 2: You know?
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Speaker 6: And what's your price range?
29:22
Speaker 7: Sure, we've definitely got one that will work for sure.
29:26
Speaker 2: And then if you're someone who already knows the answer
29:29
Speaker 2: to all those questions and you've got a very specific need,
29:32
Speaker 2: and maybe it's not here on the lot at Layton
29:35
Speaker 2: Hills Mall, like we just said, you'll find it.
29:38
Speaker 7: Yeah, between our four locations, we've got over thirteen hundred RVs.
29:43
Speaker 7: So you think about that thirteen hundred, that's the biggest
29:46
Speaker 7: inventory in the in the western side of the United
29:48
Speaker 7: States right here and you know, in Utah, and then
29:51
Speaker 7: we have that one store in Idaho. But yeah, for shore,
29:55
Speaker 7: we'll have something that you'd like, that'll work for you.
29:58
Speaker 7: And it's definitely time to get some that didn't take
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Speaker 7: your family out on a vacation.
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Speaker 3: And the toy haulers that something that I don't maybe
30:05
Speaker 3: they existed when I was a kid, I don't remember them.
30:09
Speaker 2: But you got a.
30:09
Speaker 3: Little garage on the back of this thing for the
30:12
Speaker 3: dirt bikes, for the four wheelers, for all that stuff.
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Speaker 2: The toy haulers, it's just genius.
30:16
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you know, these toy haulers, it's a great
30:19
Speaker 7: way to head out.
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Speaker 6: On the desert, go up in the mountains.
30:21
Speaker 7: They carry a ton of water, most of them will
30:23
Speaker 7: carry a hundred gallons plus. They got an onboard generator,
30:26
Speaker 7: so you don't need hookups at a campground. You can
30:28
Speaker 7: just turn your generator on, have your air, you know,
30:31
Speaker 7: have your hot water, fridge, furnace. Being totally self contained.
30:34
Speaker 7: They carry fuel for your toys. The ramp goes down
30:38
Speaker 7: in the back you can put your four wheelers your
30:41
Speaker 7: you know, your UTVs whatever. But maybe you're just a
30:43
Speaker 7: guy who has or a.
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Speaker 6: Family that has paddle boards.
30:47
Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe it's a maybe it's a kayaks, Maybe it's
30:50
Speaker 7: a big monster barbecuer.
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Speaker 6: Basically it's just a ton of extra storage.
30:54
Speaker 7: And in the trailers that are open, I really like
30:57
Speaker 7: them because they're big open areas that you can have
31:00
Speaker 7: a bunch of people come in, have a little party.
31:02
Speaker 7: If it's a if it's a fifth will with a
31:04
Speaker 7: separated garage, well think you've actually got like a separate
31:07
Speaker 7: bunk room. And many of them have a second bath,
31:09
Speaker 7: separate entrance, so that garage doubles as a basically a
31:13
Speaker 7: two room unit.
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Speaker 3: That's pretty great utaharv event dot com. And you and
31:17
Speaker 3: I have talked about this before. I mean, we live
31:20
Speaker 3: in the perfect place. We do boy to come take
31:23
Speaker 3: advantage of the great outdoors in comfort and in style.
31:28
Speaker 2: It might not be like as big of a deal
31:30
Speaker 2: in Oklahoma, where my parents live. I can tell you
31:33
Speaker 2: it's not ya.
31:33
Speaker 3: But if you live in Utah, you're an hour or
31:36
Speaker 3: two or three hours away from like completely unique, incredible topography.
31:42
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what's so awesome about living here. We are
31:44
Speaker 7: completely spoiled and it just amazes me.
31:47
Speaker 2: You know.
31:47
Speaker 7: I feel like sometimes I talk to people and they're like, oh, yeah,
31:50
Speaker 7: my dreams to go to Europe, and then you get
31:52
Speaker 7: over to Europe and their dreams to come right here
31:53
Speaker 7: in our backyard. And you know, when I hear somebody
31:56
Speaker 7: say that they haven't seen our national parks, they haven't
31:59
Speaker 7: seen our national monuments or our state parks, I feel
32:02
Speaker 7: like they are truly missing out because they are so spectacular,
32:07
Speaker 7: and you know, I used to take my kids to
32:08
Speaker 7: them and they just know they're having a lot of fun.
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Speaker 7: I thought it was cool because they're learning things. So sure,
32:13
Speaker 7: I was the land set aside, Why is this park special?
32:16
Speaker 7: Why is it here? Why does it exist? I mean,
32:18
Speaker 7: it's a great opportunity to take your family and head
32:21
Speaker 7: out on a vacation, and RV is the best way
32:23
Speaker 7: to do it.
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Speaker 3: Utaharv event dot com better yet, come here to the
32:27
Speaker 3: Layton Hills Mall.
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Speaker 2: We're kind of the in the parking lot out front
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Speaker 2: of the J. C. Petty.
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Speaker 3: This is what the northwest corner of the mall. Ten
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Speaker 3: am to dusk through the weekend.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we'll be here till dusk unless it starts
32:40
Speaker 7: raining hard or something, which I think that's over with you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, hope, so fingers crossed go we're.
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Speaker 6: Good on that. But yeah, come on down.
32:46
Speaker 7: I mean, if you maybe you don't really know what
32:47
Speaker 7: you want, you know, and the first purchase can be
32:50
Speaker 7: something like this, and then you know, get one for
32:52
Speaker 7: fifty cents on the dollar because somebody took it out
32:55
Speaker 7: a couple of times, and then decide what you want
32:57
Speaker 7: and maybe someday you do something different. But it's a
32:59
Speaker 7: great way to get into a into an RV and
33:02
Speaker 7: take your family on a vacation.
33:05
Speaker 2: Thanks for having us out here.
33:06
Speaker 3: We got giveaways Utah Royals, Seattle Rain sweepstakes, We've got
33:11
Speaker 3: the ESPN Stadium bags, we got some hats. We got
33:14
Speaker 3: some beer coozies, drink beverage coozies. I should say, doesn't
33:19
Speaker 3: have to be beer. So swing by, say hello and
33:22
Speaker 3: take a look at the great selection up here at
33:25
Speaker 3: the Paris RV Tent Sale. Used RV's motor homes, travel trailers,
33:30
Speaker 3: fifth wheels, toy haulers, truck campers, A and C class
33:35
Speaker 3: diesel gas.
33:37
Speaker 2: They'll find you whatever you need. Come see us, Harry.
33:40
Speaker 3: Douglas is next here on the Sean O'Connell Show. Don't
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Speaker 3: go anywhere, We're just getting started on a Wednesday ESPN
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Speaker 3: seven ninety two.
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Speaker 1: You tuned to The Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
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Speaker 1: Chevrolet Studio of ESPN seven hundred at ninetym.
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Speaker 2: All right, Shot O'Connell show continues here. We're at Layton
34:03
Speaker 2: Hills Mall for the big r V sale.
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Speaker 3: Come see us in the southwest corner of the parking lot, trailers,
34:11
Speaker 3: fifth wheels, anything you need to get out there into
34:14
Speaker 3: the great outdoors. But time to talk a little NFL,
34:17
Speaker 3: little NFL draft. We might get into the NBA playoffs,
34:20
Speaker 3: you never know. We're lucky enough to welcome Harry Douglass
34:23
Speaker 3: to the show here. Harry, welcome, How are you.
34:27
Speaker 5: I'm doing well, Thanks for having me, Sean.
34:30
Speaker 3: So we've been dissecting the NFL draft and of course
34:35
Speaker 3: the former Utah players involvement in it. But one of
34:38
Speaker 3: the things that keeps popping up is the LA Rams
34:42
Speaker 3: and their decision to draft Ty Simpson at number thirteen.
34:45
Speaker 3: And most of the time people are asking, hey, you know,
34:47
Speaker 3: what does this do with Matthew Stafford Is this a
34:50
Speaker 3: short term plan?
34:51
Speaker 2: Is this the right short term plan?
34:53
Speaker 3: I should say, when you've got a Super Bowl window
34:55
Speaker 3: open right now? And I totally understand why the focus
34:58
Speaker 3: is on the current starting core or back, but what
35:01
Speaker 3: about the rest of that team, What about the puka
35:04
Speaker 3: and the coops of the world. What about the other
35:05
Speaker 3: guys that obviously also want to win a Super Bowl
35:09
Speaker 3: while this window is open? And a lot of people
35:11
Speaker 3: thought you could have given Matthew Stafford a target, you
35:15
Speaker 3: could have drafted, like a Kenyan Sadik.
35:18
Speaker 2: Or maybe one of the other wide receivers.
35:20
Speaker 3: And I'm just curious what you think the other players,
35:23
Speaker 3: not the quarterback, not Matthew Stafford, the other players in
35:26
Speaker 3: that building, think about going with the potential quarterback of
35:30
Speaker 3: the future instead of someone that can help right now.
35:33
Speaker 5: Well, initially probably Pauls for the calls and you say,
35:37
Speaker 5: huh a quarterback, and then you after some time pass
35:41
Speaker 5: you say, Okay, maybe they're building for the future. But
35:44
Speaker 5: like you mentioned, this is a football team. Am my opinion.
35:46
Speaker 5: I thought last year, if they would have beat the
35:48
Speaker 5: Seattle Seahawks and the UNFC championship game, they would have
35:51
Speaker 5: went on and won a Super Bowl for a second
35:53
Speaker 5: time in the span of Matthew Stafford being a quarterback
35:56
Speaker 5: and Sean McVay being the head coach. Me personally, I
35:59
Speaker 5: would have took so long for the immediate seat and
36:01
Speaker 5: added them to this roster to help me right now,
36:04
Speaker 5: because we do know the Rams. They're going for the
36:06
Speaker 5: gusto right the last time they won a Super Bowl,
36:09
Speaker 5: they wanted that home in Sofi Stadium. Well, guess what
36:12
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl this year is going to be in
36:13
Speaker 5: Sofi Stadium. I can see the team's perspective been doing it.
36:18
Speaker 5: I don't hate to pick it, just would not have
36:20
Speaker 5: been my pick if I was in that position at
36:22
Speaker 5: the time, because I want to win another Super Bowl
36:26
Speaker 5: right now, and for Matthew Stafford, if he's able to
36:29
Speaker 5: do that, I do believe he's going to, you know,
36:32
Speaker 5: sell off in the sunset and retire. But that's also
36:35
Speaker 5: the logical of thinking behind Sean McVay and also lets me, well, hey,
36:38
Speaker 5: we need someone to replace Matthew Stafford if he does
36:41
Speaker 5: decide to retire off into the sunset. So Matthew Stafford
36:45
Speaker 5: shouldn't feel in the type way. This is a guy
36:46
Speaker 5: who won the MVP last year he's a super Bowl champion.
36:50
Speaker 5: He needs everything for that organization and the city of
36:53
Speaker 5: Los Angeles. So it's not a situation where he has to,
36:56
Speaker 5: you know, watch behind his back. If he's going to
36:58
Speaker 5: have a job a super Bowl, super Bowl champion, that's
37:01
Speaker 5: the NDP of the league. That's not the case, but
37:05
Speaker 5: for right now and going for the Gusto. I love
37:07
Speaker 5: what they did, and going trading for Trent mcdusty and
37:09
Speaker 5: also getting jayl watching because I believe the secondary was
37:11
Speaker 5: a deficiency last year. You wouldn't have showed that up draft.
37:15
Speaker 5: I m Kyle Lemon or Keyo Sadik would have been
37:18
Speaker 5: perfect for this offense moving forward in twenty to twenty six.
37:22
Speaker 5: In this season, that was not the case. They took
37:24
Speaker 5: a quarterback instead. They trying to build for the future.
37:28
Speaker 3: I just mentioned Pook and Nakuah. Obviously a lot of
37:30
Speaker 3: local interest in him. He played his high school ball
37:33
Speaker 3: here in Utah. He ended up transferring back to BYU
37:37
Speaker 3: after a brief time at Washington, So a lot of
37:41
Speaker 3: people very interested in his success and his future. And
37:45
Speaker 3: obviously he's you know, he's gotten in his own way
37:47
Speaker 3: a little bit with off the field stuff, but on
37:50
Speaker 3: the field, he's kind of above reproach. What is a
37:53
Speaker 3: veteran or maybe a captain type teammate need to do
37:57
Speaker 3: with someone like Pook and Akua to make sure that
38:00
Speaker 3: you know he stays on the right path as a player.
38:05
Speaker 5: Well, Number one, look you look around at the receiver
38:09
Speaker 5: that just won the Super Bowl with the Seattle Seahawks,
38:11
Speaker 5: and you see he's the highest paid guy. And you
38:13
Speaker 5: sit down with Pooky and say, hey, man, don't let
38:16
Speaker 5: anything block your blessings and negate you from being the
38:20
Speaker 5: highest paid wide receiving the league. The offense in Los Angeles,
38:23
Speaker 5: it is revolved around pooking Nakua from the run game
38:27
Speaker 5: and him being able to insert between guards and tackles
38:30
Speaker 5: and tight ends and tackles and dig out safeties and
38:32
Speaker 5: block linebackers to him going in motion and the defense
38:36
Speaker 5: having to adjust from the past game. Him being a
38:40
Speaker 5: threat between the numbers, outside the numbers, making the contestic
38:43
Speaker 5: catches and also being a red zone threat. But you
38:46
Speaker 5: don't want to let outside things stop you from getting
38:48
Speaker 5: your money and taking care of your family. And to
38:51
Speaker 5: be exact, it's gonna be the type of money that
38:52
Speaker 5: takes care of generations down the line, so you know,
38:56
Speaker 5: do what you have to do right now so you
38:58
Speaker 5: can live and do what you want to do later
39:00
Speaker 5: in life. That's that's what I would tell POOKA focus
39:04
Speaker 5: on the thing, the main thing, and then when you
39:06
Speaker 5: get your money, do what you feel please.
39:12
Speaker 3: The Cleveland Browns have been an organization that I point
39:16
Speaker 3: to I think a lot of people point to as
39:18
Speaker 3: like dysfunctional.
39:20
Speaker 2: Everything they do seems to go wrong.
39:22
Speaker 3: But I really really like the draft class that they
39:25
Speaker 3: pulled in this year. I love Spencer final for obvious reasons.
39:30
Speaker 3: They traded back and were still able to get him
39:32
Speaker 3: at nine instead of having to use the pick at
39:34
Speaker 3: number six. They went receiver with the twenty fourth pick,
39:38
Speaker 3: which a lot of people thought they needed help with,
39:40
Speaker 3: and then even on down second third into the later rounds,
39:44
Speaker 3: I thought they added players they could potentially help this roster.
39:48
Speaker 2: Is it time for us for me.
39:49
Speaker 3: Specifically to start looking at the Browns differently and saying, like,
39:53
Speaker 3: all right, this is not a franchise that's going to
39:55
Speaker 3: continue to make the wrong choice every time. Because this
39:58
Speaker 3: draft and even some previous you know, extending Garrett and
40:01
Speaker 3: things like that, this might be an indication that they're
40:03
Speaker 3: headed in the right direction.
40:04
Speaker 5: Finally, well, their draft. I love every player that they took,
40:09
Speaker 5: especially in the first four. And when you look at
40:12
Speaker 5: Cleveland last year, they were able to hit on a
40:14
Speaker 5: lot of their draft picks offensively, defensively, Mason Graham, Carson Schwassenger,
40:19
Speaker 5: you know, the running back that they were able to
40:21
Speaker 5: hit on a lot of guys Harrold Fanners junior to
40:23
Speaker 5: tight end. This is the second year in a row
40:25
Speaker 5: that we've seen this team really make some good selections
40:28
Speaker 5: across the board. You mentioned Spencer Vanu at the tackle position,
40:32
Speaker 5: Casey concept Young, which he was one of my favorite
40:35
Speaker 5: receivers coming out, and I thought one of the sleepers
40:37
Speaker 5: was going to be Benzel Balston. Well they got both
40:39
Speaker 5: of them, and then a guy that a lot of
40:41
Speaker 5: people thought was going to go in the first round
40:42
Speaker 5: in Manual McNeil. Warren looked to them. In the second round,
40:46
Speaker 5: they were able to get him. So you look at
40:49
Speaker 5: Justin Jefferson at the linebacker position from Alabama, Talen Green up,
40:52
Speaker 5: very athletic quarterback. I know they have a lot of
40:54
Speaker 5: quarterbacks in there already, but a guy with athleticism that's
40:58
Speaker 5: off the charge. I really love Andrew Berry has done
41:01
Speaker 5: from a draft respective the last two years. And then
41:04
Speaker 5: also when you look at Todd Mounkin now being a
41:06
Speaker 5: head coach and getting his first chance to be able
41:08
Speaker 5: to be in that role. He's trying to make a
41:11
Speaker 5: change and change the culture in Cleveland right now. Now
41:14
Speaker 5: you know they're hoping they can hit on the quarterback
41:17
Speaker 5: position with Shador Sanders or if it's DeShawn Watson. But
41:21
Speaker 5: what you're doing for your quarterbacks is you're surrounding them
41:24
Speaker 5: with excellent pieces, so there's no excuse why they can't succeed,
41:28
Speaker 5: and I like it.
41:30
Speaker 3: Harry Douglas our guest here on the Sean O'Connell show.
41:32
Speaker 3: You can hear him alongside Freddy Coleman on ESPN Radio.
41:35
Speaker 3: He is also a ten year NFL that when you
41:39
Speaker 3: look at these draft picks and you see these guys
41:41
Speaker 3: obviously first rounders, we expect to do big things.
41:44
Speaker 2: But when you get into the.
41:46
Speaker 3: Third round, the fourth round, and we saw a bunch
41:48
Speaker 3: of Day three picks from the local schools around here.
41:51
Speaker 2: What separates a guy who's.
41:52
Speaker 3: Going to be in the NFL for a year or
41:55
Speaker 3: two from the guys who can hang around for a
41:57
Speaker 3: decade like you were able to do.
42:00
Speaker 5: I would say the ability to play special teams and
42:03
Speaker 5: let go of the individualism and be more team oriented.
42:07
Speaker 2: You have to do that.
42:08
Speaker 5: If you're a third, four or fifth, sixth, seventh round pick,
42:12
Speaker 5: or even a college free agent, you have to play
42:15
Speaker 5: special teams. I remember my rookie season. I was a
42:18
Speaker 5: third round pick. My rookie season, I played a running
42:20
Speaker 5: the slot, but then we got a returner you know,
42:23
Speaker 5: have some mishaps. They let him go and I had
42:25
Speaker 5: to go back there and be the returner. And it
42:27
Speaker 5: was my first time ever in my life doing punt returns.
42:29
Speaker 5: But you know, I was able to be coached up
42:31
Speaker 5: by my special teams coach at the time, Keith Armstrong,
42:34
Speaker 5: and my receiver coach who worked with returners Terry Ribisky,
42:37
Speaker 5: and was able to make an impact doing it. But
42:40
Speaker 5: you need guys that's going to be on the kickoff
42:42
Speaker 5: cover team, on punt block and the punt team and
42:46
Speaker 5: kickoff return. So you have to be able to excel
42:49
Speaker 5: as special teams and understand your role on the team.
42:52
Speaker 5: You might be a special teams player early on to
42:54
Speaker 5: your career, but that may also lead to a coach
42:56
Speaker 5: saying that, hey, we need to put him in a
42:58
Speaker 5: starting role on defense, so we need to get him
42:59
Speaker 5: more touches on offense. And that's how that's how you
43:02
Speaker 5: have to look at it to be able to have
43:03
Speaker 5: longevity in this league when you're not the first round
43:06
Speaker 5: or a second round draft pick and you're you know,
43:08
Speaker 5: picking those later rounds.
43:11
Speaker 2: The first time you returned punts was in the NFL. YEP,
43:15
Speaker 2: the very first time, but how nerve racket.
43:18
Speaker 5: I remember, I remember, I remember doing the Senior Bowl
43:22
Speaker 5: and I remember the San Francisco forty nine ers that
43:24
Speaker 5: was the coaching staff and Mike Martz was the OC
43:27
Speaker 5: and out they were teaching me how to catch him
43:29
Speaker 5: like back then, and then when I got to Atlanta,
43:31
Speaker 5: I just did it every single day before practice, after practice.
43:35
Speaker 5: But I'll tell you the very first time when they
43:37
Speaker 5: told me they came to that meeting room and told
43:38
Speaker 5: me I was gonna be a punt returner, I was like,
43:41
Speaker 5: oh boy, And my very first time back there returning it.
43:46
Speaker 5: What what helped me out is that I had a
43:47
Speaker 5: guy that I played in college with, natee Antoine Harris,
43:51
Speaker 5: and he was one of the vice men holding up
43:53
Speaker 5: the gunners on the outside. The fact that I trusted
43:56
Speaker 5: him so much from college, I wasn't to worry that
44:00
Speaker 5: we had him and Brent Brimes were together, and then
44:03
Speaker 5: we had a guy named d Hall that was on
44:06
Speaker 5: the other side, and d Hall and Grimey and Torn
44:09
Speaker 5: used to take guys to the Gatorade cooler as vice man.
44:12
Speaker 5: So I was never worried. I was just nervous, like, man,
44:15
Speaker 5: this is my first time doing it, But I was
44:18
Speaker 5: never worried about those guys getting their blocks.
44:22
Speaker 2: It's such a fascinating skill for me.
44:25
Speaker 3: I was a linebacker full back type, so they don't
44:28
Speaker 3: throw us back to return punts ever, right, It's such
44:31
Speaker 3: a fascinating skill, very specific to be able to catch
44:36
Speaker 3: the punt field the punt first of all, but then
44:39
Speaker 3: to know you know the right move, the first move.
44:41
Speaker 3: I played with a guy in college who he had
44:44
Speaker 3: like a Spidey sense. He would not look, but he
44:48
Speaker 3: would catch that ball and he just knew from field,
44:52
Speaker 3: peripheral vision whatever, the right first move to make, and
44:55
Speaker 3: he was always getting five to ten yards instead of
44:58
Speaker 3: that first man tackling him. It always fascinated me that
45:02
Speaker 3: particular skill because it's a blind spot. You got to
45:05
Speaker 3: keep your eye on the ball to feel the ball correctly.
45:07
Speaker 3: We've seen it so many times when you take your
45:10
Speaker 3: eyes off it and then you muff that punt because
45:13
Speaker 3: you're looking at the coverage. I don't know how anyone,
45:16
Speaker 3: your self included, is ever able to do it.
45:19
Speaker 8: Well.
45:19
Speaker 5: It's not the easiest, but it's all about instinct, saying,
45:22
Speaker 5: you know, feeling things around you from a body perspective.
45:25
Speaker 5: And you know, I'll say this, everyone can't do it
45:29
Speaker 5: because you also do have people coming down trying to
45:31
Speaker 5: take your head off and trying to separate you from
45:34
Speaker 5: the football. So it is definitely a skill that you
45:38
Speaker 5: have to have. And you know, poaches always tell the
45:42
Speaker 5: returners this. Number one, the number one job is to
45:44
Speaker 5: make sure you secure the football. But number two, you
45:47
Speaker 5: can't block everybody. You have to have the ability to
45:50
Speaker 5: make the first man miss. If you can't make the
45:51
Speaker 5: first man miss, you're a pretty crappy punt returner.
45:55
Speaker 3: Back to the draft, to which team do you think
45:58
Speaker 3: help themselves the most with the draft picks?
46:00
Speaker 5: Specifically, I'll start with Kansas City. From a Super Bowl
46:06
Speaker 5: contending standpoint, we knew that they had lost the excuse
46:10
Speaker 5: me a lot defensively, but then being able to number one,
46:14
Speaker 5: trade up to number six and get Mansword Delane. Secondary, right,
46:17
Speaker 5: you lost two guys one be traded one beer the
46:23
Speaker 5: free agency to the Los Angeles Rams and Watson and McDuffie.
46:27
Speaker 5: But they get Mansword Delane, and in the first round
46:30
Speaker 5: again they get Peter Woods, a defensive tackle out of Clemson,
46:33
Speaker 5: and then second round they got r Mason Thomas, and
46:36
Speaker 5: then from Oregon you get us safety and Jaden Kennedy
46:40
Speaker 5: who can do a lot of different things on the
46:41
Speaker 5: football field for you. So I really like what they
46:44
Speaker 5: were able to do in Kansas City.
46:49
Speaker 3: I don't like the soap opera TMZ stuff as it
46:52
Speaker 3: crosses over to sports, and I think that's where we've
46:54
Speaker 3: gotten with the Mike Rabel Diana Russini thing.
46:57
Speaker 2: I mean, we're here in Salt Lake City.
46:59
Speaker 3: You got people chasing him through the airport as he's
47:02
Speaker 3: coming in for his counseling or whatever. From a locker
47:06
Speaker 3: room perspective, how is this going to be handled? Will
47:09
Speaker 3: it affect anything that the Patriots are trying to do
47:11
Speaker 3: this year?
47:14
Speaker 5: No, I think they're going to be fine. Mike Rabell
47:16
Speaker 5: does a great job of keeping the team locked in
47:18
Speaker 5: those players, taking on his personality as well. And look,
47:21
Speaker 5: this is what I tell people in the world. See,
47:23
Speaker 5: I'm most school My mom and daddy raised me different.
47:25
Speaker 5: I don't worry about other people business. You see what
47:27
Speaker 5: I'm saying. I worry about what I need to do. Hey,
47:30
Speaker 5: going about my day. I don't worry about people's household.
47:33
Speaker 5: I don't worry about other people's business. I worry about
47:36
Speaker 5: being the best version of myself every single day. That's
47:39
Speaker 5: just me.
47:40
Speaker 3: That's probably the right way to handle a situation like this,
47:42
Speaker 3: because you got no control over it one way or another.
47:46
Speaker 3: Harry Douglas is our guests here for another minute or
47:48
Speaker 3: two on the Sean O'Connell Show. Are we going to
47:51
Speaker 3: see Aaron Rodgers playing in the NFL? And I guess
47:54
Speaker 3: the Steelers put that UFA tender on himsel If he
47:57
Speaker 3: does play, it'll be in Pittsburgh.
48:01
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know. You never know what
48:04
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers is going to do.
48:05
Speaker 8: Now.
48:05
Speaker 5: I'm probably going to see him this weekend because I'm
48:08
Speaker 5: going to the Kentucky Derby and usually where I'm sitting
48:10
Speaker 5: at in the turf club, he's right outside and you
48:14
Speaker 5: know has his friends with him every single year, Devonte
48:16
Speaker 5: Adams and the crew. I'm a best round and if
48:19
Speaker 5: I run it to him, and what are you gonna do?
48:21
Speaker 5: Can you give us a decision? They know me so
48:24
Speaker 5: I can go on my show and break the news.
48:26
Speaker 3: He said he promised he wouldn't leave it until June.
48:29
Speaker 3: By the time you see him, it's at least going
48:31
Speaker 3: to be May. So you got leverage to force him
48:34
Speaker 3: to tell you.
48:34
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
48:37
Speaker 5: Exactly.
48:39
Speaker 3: I've never been to the Kentucky Derby. That's a bucket
48:41
Speaker 3: list type thing. Tell me about what that experience is.
48:47
Speaker 5: This is great me going to the University of lil
48:49
Speaker 5: One being there. I used to live right across the
48:51
Speaker 5: street from Churchill down, so you used to charge people
48:54
Speaker 5: for parking or whatnot in the area where I lived.
48:58
Speaker 5: And you know those who traces man people coming in
49:01
Speaker 5: being diked out. I love dressing up in suits. I'm
49:04
Speaker 5: literally right now ironing my dress shirt. I iron my
49:06
Speaker 5: shirt after it comes out to clean. It's that's just me.
49:09
Speaker 5: I'm out of my shirt so they can be nice
49:11
Speaker 5: and crispy for all the suits I'm gonna wear this weekend.
49:14
Speaker 5: But it's a treat. My wife loves going as well.
49:16
Speaker 5: So and then also to be able to get back
49:18
Speaker 5: to the city of Louisville. That played an instrumental part
49:21
Speaker 5: of my growth going up and being the man that
49:23
Speaker 5: I am, So it's always great to get back there.
49:26
Speaker 2: Your wife do the full the big hat and everything.
49:30
Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes she does. Sometimes I do it too. I
49:32
Speaker 5: have a brother in law that owns a hat company
49:34
Speaker 5: called Hatrimony, and he's actually, I'm gonna wear a Saints
49:37
Speaker 5: Teller suit this year with a tan tie and a
49:40
Speaker 5: tan pocket square. So he's actually making me a hat
49:43
Speaker 5: this year to go with it.
49:45
Speaker 2: That's awesome, That's incredible.
49:48
Speaker 3: Well, I can't tell you how much I appreciate you
49:50
Speaker 3: giving us some time today before I let you go.
49:53
Speaker 3: The proposed rule changes in the nc DOUBLEA say that
49:58
Speaker 3: five years to play five college football. They're trying to
50:01
Speaker 3: push this forward five years from your high school graduation
50:05
Speaker 3: or when you turn nineteen. Is that a reasonable fix
50:10
Speaker 3: in your mind for the situation that has developed in
50:14
Speaker 3: NCAA football.
50:16
Speaker 5: Yes, enough of these people spending seven eight years in college?
50:20
Speaker 5: What are we doing? You should not be spent in
50:25
Speaker 5: seven eight years in college. Man, get in there four
50:28
Speaker 5: or five years span, be out of there, going with
50:30
Speaker 5: a lifetime to move home. Fellas or ladies, get.
50:34
Speaker 3: The degree in that five years, no excuse. If you
50:37
Speaker 3: can't graduate in five years, be done and head off
50:40
Speaker 3: into the workforce. Or if you're lucky enough, play some
50:43
Speaker 3: pro sports like Harry Douglas.
50:45
Speaker 2: Right, yes, sir, well enjoy the Derby. Tell Freddy Coleman.
50:52
Speaker 3: We said, hello, you guys do an incredible job, and
50:54
Speaker 3: again thank.
50:55
Speaker 2: You for your time. No problem, Thank you, Harry Douglas.
51:00
Speaker 3: You can hear Freddy and HD, Freddie Coleman and Harry
51:04
Speaker 3: Douglas on ESPN Radio. And guess what that's us ESPN
51:08
Speaker 3: seven hundred and ninety two one FM. Lo's the get
51:10
Speaker 3: to on the Sean O'Connell show.
51:13
Speaker 9: That's me in the corner.
51:15
Speaker 1: You were listening to the Sean O'Connell Show from the
51:17
Speaker 1: Murdoch Hyundai Studio of ESPN seven hundred and ninety one FM.
51:27
Speaker 3: All right, Greig Boeller, Jack is gonna join us here
51:30
Speaker 3: in just a few minutes.
51:31
Speaker 2: But for the hot lunch on the Sean O'Connell Show.
51:34
Speaker 3: We are up here at the Paris RV tent sale
51:37
Speaker 3: in the parking lot of the Leyton Hills Mall. Brett's
51:40
Speaker 3: kind enough to join us again to talk about well,
51:43
Speaker 3: exactly what we're looking at here, all right? These are
51:45
Speaker 3: used RVs. I walked into a couple of them. We
51:48
Speaker 3: were just playing a recorded interview. I walked into a
51:50
Speaker 3: couple of them, Brett, and I look used at all.
51:52
Speaker 3: Where are you getting these things?
51:54
Speaker 6: Yeah?
51:54
Speaker 7: So they come from a variety of areas. Some of
51:56
Speaker 7: them are factory buybacks. So you know, the factories always
51:59
Speaker 7: called me, you know, I guess they know I'm the
52:01
Speaker 7: guy and the Inner Mountain was so they called me
52:02
Speaker 7: and they go, hey, we got a deal. And then
52:04
Speaker 7: it's kind of a negotiation with them, and I do
52:06
Speaker 7: my best to buy them as low as I can,
52:09
Speaker 7: you know. And so that's that's where a lot of
52:10
Speaker 7: them come from. And then of course trade ins. We
52:12
Speaker 7: get a ton of trade ins. People like to buy
52:15
Speaker 7: a new RV every four point two years, and so
52:18
Speaker 7: you know, when you're selling twenty five hundred RVs a year,
52:20
Speaker 7: you get a lot of.
52:21
Speaker 6: Trades, you know.
52:22
Speaker 7: So so yeah, we get a lot that way, and
52:24
Speaker 7: then we've got a whole bunch this whole area over
52:26
Speaker 7: here are rental returns, and those motor homes look brand new.
52:32
Speaker 6: They look brand new.
52:33
Speaker 7: They usually run them for one year and then if
52:35
Speaker 7: there's anything wrong with them, they flat out do whatever
52:38
Speaker 7: it takes to make them look brand new. And they're
52:40
Speaker 7: sitting here, and you know, the thing of it is
52:42
Speaker 7: that they're you know, forty grand fifty grand less than
52:46
Speaker 7: a new one, the exact same model new, and they
52:49
Speaker 7: do have a little you know, a little bit extra
52:51
Speaker 7: miles on them, but it's like, okay, your average person
52:53
Speaker 7: buys that motor home, they go out, you know, ten
52:56
Speaker 7: times a year, put six seven thousand miles on because
52:59
Speaker 7: we just go to the mountains, out to the desert. Sure,
53:01
Speaker 7: and in three years they're normal miles. You know, no
53:03
Speaker 7: one would ever even know the difference. Yet you save
53:05
Speaker 7: forty fifty percent, you know, off the price of a
53:08
Speaker 7: new one. And then some of them are some repos
53:12
Speaker 7: you know, so we get some repos here and there
53:14
Speaker 7: that the you know, the banks and credit unises and
53:17
Speaker 7: stuff call on us to try to help liquidate. So
53:19
Speaker 7: so we go through, we check every single one of them.
53:22
Speaker 7: We make sure fridge, furnace, electrical, water, propane, air conditioning
53:24
Speaker 7: generator are good. We give them a detail, We put
53:27
Speaker 7: brand new batteries on them, fill a full of propane,
53:30
Speaker 7: and yeah, it's a great way to get your family
53:33
Speaker 7: out and have a vacation every single weekend.
53:35
Speaker 3: Whatever it is you're driving, they got something you can haul.
53:38
Speaker 3: If you're looking for a motor home itself, they've got
53:41
Speaker 3: options all sizes, all up and down, a price point
53:45
Speaker 3: for pretty much everyone. If you're the young family just
53:47
Speaker 3: trying to get into it, If you're a little more
53:49
Speaker 3: established and you know exactly what you're looking for, you've
53:52
Speaker 3: got something along the whole range of price points here.
53:54
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and some of them again, Like I walked
53:57
Speaker 6: in that.
53:57
Speaker 7: Kodiak over there, and I'm an ex on RVs.
54:00
Speaker 6: I would have never have known anybody has ever used
54:03
Speaker 6: that trader. I mean it's a bunk house travel trader.
54:06
Speaker 7: There's no way if I set that next to a
54:09
Speaker 7: new one on the ground, I couldn't tell the difference.
54:11
Speaker 7: So why not save yourself ten grand off the price
54:14
Speaker 7: of a new one. It looks brand new, it's a
54:16
Speaker 7: year old, come get it.
54:16
Speaker 2: And there's financing options.
54:18
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, financing not a problem. We just arrange it here.
54:21
Speaker 7: We've got forty banks and credit unions, so you know,
54:24
Speaker 7: we just put you in the computer, figure out where's
54:25
Speaker 7: the least expensive way to go.
54:27
Speaker 6: We've got no down options, so you can.
54:29
Speaker 7: Come down here and get one, get one noe down
54:31
Speaker 7: in a way to kind of figure a payment. It's
54:33
Speaker 7: about ten bucks for every thousand. So if you got
54:35
Speaker 7: a twenty thousand dollars ARV, it's about two hundred a month.
54:39
Speaker 3: Ten am to dusk from now through the weekend. You
54:42
Speaker 3: toa RV event dot com. Brett, you're the right guys.
54:46
Speaker 3: What's a little incentive we can throw out to the
54:48
Speaker 3: people listening on ESPNS out.
54:50
Speaker 6: I'll tell you what.
54:51
Speaker 7: Anybody who comes in that say they heard me on
54:54
Speaker 7: ESPN seven hundred, I'm gonna give them a grand off
54:56
Speaker 7: of anything on the ground.
54:57
Speaker 6: You just pick one. I'll give you a grand off
54:59
Speaker 6: just because you're an ESPN listener.
55:01
Speaker 2: So walk around.
55:01
Speaker 3: They got the prices right on the door, right inside
55:04
Speaker 3: every door. You're not there's no confusion. You know exactly
55:07
Speaker 3: what it costs. Tell Brett or anybody you heard about
55:10
Speaker 3: it on ESPN seven hundred, you knock a thousand dollars
55:13
Speaker 3: off that price.
55:14
Speaker 2: Yep.
55:14
Speaker 6: That's a great way to start this out.
55:16
Speaker 3: Let's go Layton Hills Mall, Paris RV ten Sale. It's
55:20
Speaker 3: happening right now.
55:21
Speaker 2: We're out here.
55:21
Speaker 3: I've got some giveaways right in the middle of all this,
55:24
Speaker 3: so come say hello.
55:27
Speaker 2: We also have giveaways coming up later.
55:30
Speaker 3: Red West is coming back to Salt Lake City the
55:33
Speaker 3: Red West Festival. We've got Ella Langley, Shaboozi, Sam Tucker
55:39
Speaker 3: and many more topical trivia.
55:42
Speaker 2: We'll do that at one forty five ish.
55:44
Speaker 3: We'll give away a trivia question a pair of Red
55:47
Speaker 3: West passes. That's October sixteenth and seventeenth at the Utah
55:51
Speaker 3: State Fair Park.
55:52
Speaker 2: Craig Bowler Jack joins us.
55:54
Speaker 3: Next, what does he think of the new anti tanking proposal.
55:58
Speaker 2: That the NBA is putting in from the teams.
56:01
Speaker 3: We'll find out in three minutes On The Sean O'Connell
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56:11
Speaker 1: The Sean O'Connell Show, you were home of the best
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56:30
Speaker 3: All right, we're offering Craig Bowler Jack the the voice
56:34
Speaker 3: of the Utah Jazz and a four time Emmy Award winner.
56:38
Speaker 2: No big deal, uh man. The NBA making.
56:44
Speaker 3: A lot of noise right now with some incredible playoff series,
56:47
Speaker 3: but for the Utah Jazz not involved in that.
56:50
Speaker 2: You're looking towards the future.
56:52
Speaker 3: You're looking towards Mother's Day and the upcoming draft lottery.
56:55
Speaker 3: Some big news around AJ Debonts that we're gonna get
56:58
Speaker 3: to in the daily time as well as he has
57:02
Speaker 3: extended his partnership with Nike, and there's some cool things
57:06
Speaker 3: associated with that.
57:09
Speaker 2: We talked earlier.
57:10
Speaker 3: We started the show talking about the Utah Jazz being
57:14
Speaker 3: the sort of impetus, or at least being the poster
57:17
Speaker 3: children of the NBA's anti tanking crusade. That was a
57:24
Speaker 3: lot performative, Let's be honest, disingenuous, We're ridiculous in a
57:29
Speaker 3: lot of ways deciding that the Jazz were somehow a problem,
57:33
Speaker 3: even though the league had had this problem for many,
57:36
Speaker 3: many years. But if what it has given us is
57:39
Speaker 3: the proposal they call it the three two one Lottery,
57:43
Speaker 3: where they have now created a system that flattens the odds,
57:46
Speaker 3: expands the lottery to sixteen teams and actually punishes the
57:51
Speaker 3: bottom three teams in the league by reducing.
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Speaker 2: Narrons taking away a lottery ball from them.
57:56
Speaker 3: Maybe this will go a long way towards seeing some
58:01
Speaker 3: of what the league decided was a jazz problem, but
58:04
Speaker 3: really is a league problem with tanking. And we'll get
58:07
Speaker 3: to that conversation and much more about these playoffs with
58:10
Speaker 3: Craig Bowler.
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Speaker 2: Jack who joins us now Bowler, Welcome back to the show.
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Speaker 2: How are you, sir?
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Speaker 8: Aoc Well, how you doing?
58:18
Speaker 2: I'm doing all right?
58:18
Speaker 3: You know, I got little kids that hit me with
58:21
Speaker 3: the hit me with the cold that they brought home
58:24
Speaker 3: from school. But you know we're not We're not digging
58:27
Speaker 3: ditchit boller. So yeah, you in this business. It it
58:32
Speaker 3: makes you sound pretty ridiculous for three four hours a day.
58:34
Speaker 2: But it's fine.
58:35
Speaker 3: I feel okay, I sound pretty bad. I wanted to
58:39
Speaker 3: pick your brain about this, this proposal that we're seeing
58:42
Speaker 3: from the NBA, the the anti tanking measures that they're
58:46
Speaker 3: pushing towards the uh the general managers, the team presidents,
58:50
Speaker 3: the owners of all thirty NBA teams saying hey, this
58:54
Speaker 3: is how we think we can fix tanking. This three
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Speaker 3: two one lottery I'm sure you've at least looked at
59:00
Speaker 3: the cliff notes.
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Speaker 2: What do you think of the broadside?
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Speaker 10: Yes, I TELLOC there's some interesting you know, potential you know,
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Speaker 10: new rules here. I thought it was interesting they would
59:11
Speaker 10: expand the lottery to sixteen teams. You just mentioned about
59:15
Speaker 10: trying to flatten the odds that the bottom three teams
59:19
Speaker 10: would get the fewer you know, lottery balls, the ping
59:22
Speaker 10: pong balls, and it starts in twenty seven. The other
59:25
Speaker 10: thing that was intriguing too is the Jazz got caught
59:27
Speaker 10: in this too by protecting their pick and the teams.
59:31
Speaker 10: I thought this was maybe maybe the most important one
59:33
Speaker 10: was that they the teams would now not be able
59:38
Speaker 10: to protect picks in the twelve and fifteen slots, you know,
59:42
Speaker 10: going forward, you know, they have to do something that
59:47
Speaker 10: would allow teams just to play on and not have
59:49
Speaker 10: to worry about what the what a former general manager
59:52
Speaker 10: or front office did five years prior, right to protect
59:56
Speaker 10: a pick, and that now you you inherit. So I
59:59
Speaker 10: thought that was intriguing. And the other part they haven't
1:00:03
Speaker 10: handcuffed themselves. Oh see it in the sense of long
1:00:07
Speaker 10: term they look to see it to experiment with this
1:00:10
Speaker 10: and then revise it or look at it again in
1:00:13
Speaker 10: twenty twenty nine. So that's probably a good thing too.
1:00:16
Speaker 10: Don't handcuff yourself or put yourself in a corner for
1:00:20
Speaker 10: such a long period of time. Cfe's new proposals, how
1:00:23
Speaker 10: they work, how teams respond, and does it help? And
1:00:26
Speaker 10: I sure hope it does, because again, it comes down
1:00:28
Speaker 10: just the fans need the best product on the floor
1:00:31
Speaker 10: every given night, and you know it's you made another
1:00:35
Speaker 10: point coming on and you know it's just not the Jazz.
1:00:37
Speaker 10: This has been an issue for several years now throughout
1:00:40
Speaker 10: the NBA, and it just became, you know, more in
1:00:43
Speaker 10: the headlights this season because I think obviously this is
1:00:47
Speaker 10: a very powerful draft and a lot of teams were
1:00:50
Speaker 10: jockey and trying to you know, be in that top five,
1:00:53
Speaker 10: top seven pick selections.
1:00:56
Speaker 8: So I just hope it works.
1:00:59
Speaker 10: I'm not sure that this is a perfect scenario. Maybe
1:01:01
Speaker 10: there isn't one, but you got to start someplace, and
1:01:04
Speaker 10: hopefully this will be the beginning of trying to you know,
1:01:07
Speaker 10: calm this down.
1:01:09
Speaker 3: I probably got more upset than I had any business
1:01:11
Speaker 3: being with the Jazz being singled out this year with
1:01:14
Speaker 3: the largest fine.
1:01:15
Speaker 8: Yeah, for tanking.
1:01:17
Speaker 3: I felt like that was you know, pretty unfair, pretty
1:01:20
Speaker 3: disingenuous of the Commissioner's office and things like that. And
1:01:24
Speaker 3: because I have that sort of stance, I noticed a
1:01:27
Speaker 3: little kind of throwaway line in here on the new proposal.
1:01:31
Speaker 3: The league is also looking to expand their authority to
1:01:36
Speaker 3: enforce you know, these rules, and potentially that could be
1:01:41
Speaker 3: penalizing draft picks that could be larger fines. If I'm
1:01:45
Speaker 3: Ryan Smith in the Utah Jazz specifically, I want to
1:01:48
Speaker 3: know exactly what that expanded authority looks like, because I
1:01:51
Speaker 3: think the league has given us examples of the fact
1:01:53
Speaker 3: that they don't treat everybody equally, and I don't think
1:01:57
Speaker 3: I don't mean to suggest that they would continue to
1:01:59
Speaker 3: single out the Jazz, but I would want to know,
1:02:02
Speaker 3: if I was an owner, exactly what the league's authority
1:02:05
Speaker 3: really looks like.
1:02:07
Speaker 8: No, that's a great point. Oh see.
1:02:10
Speaker 10: Look, you know, on given nights, when you see suspensions
1:02:13
Speaker 10: or fines, they differ and you don't know really why
1:02:17
Speaker 10: if do they determine it on past grievances with another
1:02:20
Speaker 10: player or how he's you know, handled the situation on
1:02:24
Speaker 10: being kicked out, you know, with with multiple like, you know,
1:02:29
Speaker 10: like a Draymond Green, you know, gets gets talked about
1:02:32
Speaker 10: a lot about it, you know, him constant being tossed
1:02:35
Speaker 10: and how he's fined. But you make a great point.
1:02:37
Speaker 10: People may forget that the Jazz won that game in
1:02:39
Speaker 10: Miami that they singled out with a five hundred thousand
1:02:43
Speaker 10: dollars fine. So yeah, I get it. I don't know
1:02:47
Speaker 10: if OKC raised an eyebrow because they had interest in
1:02:51
Speaker 10: this draft obviously, and they're now awaiting round two with
1:02:56
Speaker 10: a clean sweeping around one. So yeah, I think it'd
1:03:00
Speaker 10: be smart for an ownership group governors of their teams
1:03:04
Speaker 10: to say, look, can you be more specific so we
1:03:07
Speaker 10: know what you know we're jumping into. Not sure that
1:03:10
Speaker 10: the league will give them that type of insider look,
1:03:13
Speaker 10: but I think they should in case something like this
1:03:15
Speaker 10: jumps up again.
1:03:17
Speaker 3: Buller, I go back to this time last year and
1:03:20
Speaker 3: all of us were hoping that the Jazz had maximized
1:03:23
Speaker 3: their lottery odds and it's going to be it's going
1:03:26
Speaker 3: to be Cooper flag, and it's Cooper flag or bust,
1:03:29
Speaker 3: and obviously didn't end up being Cooper flag, but that
1:03:31
Speaker 3: that draft was not nearly so deep as this one
1:03:34
Speaker 3: is and by the way, the Jazz ended up getting
1:03:37
Speaker 3: Ace and and he ended up being a really great player,
1:03:39
Speaker 3: so we should we should adjust our expectations accordingly, I think.
1:03:43
Speaker 3: But this is a deeper draft and the Jazz we
1:03:47
Speaker 3: know they hold on to their pick, we know it'll
1:03:49
Speaker 3: be no lower than eight. And still you know you
1:03:52
Speaker 3: got your your percentage chance of being the number one,
1:03:55
Speaker 3: and then you can get Aj and have that perfect
1:03:58
Speaker 3: scenario workout.
1:03:59
Speaker 2: But if it feels different this time around, that it does.
1:04:03
Speaker 3: Like as much as we love Aj Debonset and we're
1:04:05
Speaker 3: so familiar with him, we got to watch his college
1:04:08
Speaker 3: career up close and personal, it's still I think this
1:04:11
Speaker 3: year feels a little bit different, Like, hey, if we
1:04:13
Speaker 3: end up picking at five, six or seven, Whereas last
1:04:16
Speaker 3: year that was a disappointment. This year people feel like, hey,
1:04:19
Speaker 3: there's a good player there. Is that because it's that
1:04:22
Speaker 3: much deeper a draft, or is it because of how
1:04:24
Speaker 3: well Ace Bailey worked out?
1:04:27
Speaker 8: Well?
1:04:28
Speaker 10: I think as a combo, but you hit on Ace. Look,
1:04:31
Speaker 10: you know aces are wild. Use any cliche he want,
1:04:34
Speaker 10: but this young kid really developed quicker than most would
1:04:38
Speaker 10: have expected for a nineteen year old. And yeah, there
1:04:41
Speaker 10: was a huge disappointment that rang out. You know, I
1:04:44
Speaker 10: remember the night the draft lottery was announced. I'm thinking, Okay,
1:04:47
Speaker 10: here we go, here we go taking a number five
1:04:49
Speaker 10: the Utah Jazz. I thought, really, this is the reward
1:04:53
Speaker 10: after winning seventeen games last year, the worst record in
1:04:57
Speaker 10: the NBA, and that's all you can get. And then
1:05:00
Speaker 10: of course Dallas had the injuries and the trade. Doncic
1:05:03
Speaker 10: goes to La and Kyrie the ACL and one point
1:05:06
Speaker 10: eight percent chance and Luca and is all of a
1:05:10
Speaker 10: sudden forgotten and now you got the Rookie of the
1:05:12
Speaker 10: Year setting right there. How about that can Nipple, you know,
1:05:16
Speaker 10: finishes number two in the Rookie of the Year voting.
1:05:19
Speaker 10: I mean, incredible, incredible talents, both of them. But I
1:05:23
Speaker 10: don't think there's as much panic oc to get to
1:05:26
Speaker 10: your point, because I think the development that we saw
1:05:29
Speaker 10: in these last eighty two games, with the likes of
1:05:32
Speaker 10: Flip and the likes of of of Ace and Isaiah Caller,
1:05:36
Speaker 10: Kyante obviously and Bryce Senz a Baw, I mean, there's
1:05:42
Speaker 10: there's I think there's more comfort with the fan base
1:05:45
Speaker 10: thinking that this is a much deeper roster with multiple angles,
1:05:49
Speaker 10: multiple lineups, that Will Hardy can use on a given night,
1:05:52
Speaker 10: that is, if they resigned, you know, Walker Kessler. But
1:05:57
Speaker 10: I think that's the exciting part. And then the other
1:05:59
Speaker 10: flip side of this is a pretty intriguing draft. You know,
1:06:04
Speaker 10: most most most front office guys I talked to around
1:06:09
Speaker 10: the league, including the Jazz, I say do you do
1:06:12
Speaker 10: you do you draft by need or do you draft
1:06:16
Speaker 10: by the best player? And most of the time you
1:06:19
Speaker 10: hear we're going to take the best athlete, the best
1:06:22
Speaker 10: player available when we get to pick. So that's intriguing.
1:06:27
Speaker 10: And so AJ most likely is number one.
1:06:29
Speaker 8: Where do you go from there? Right?
1:06:30
Speaker 10: I mean the kid from Ku has since had some
1:06:33
Speaker 10: ups and downs, Darren Peterson, Cam Boozer from Duke. I
1:06:39
Speaker 10: mean he's in top top three, discussion top four. The
1:06:43
Speaker 10: Jazz have been kind of tied in with the kids
1:06:46
Speaker 10: Caleb Wilson of power forward from North Carolina, Who did
1:06:51
Speaker 10: you twenty and nine? So there's a lot of talk,
1:06:55
Speaker 10: you know, but you just have to wait to see
1:06:57
Speaker 10: how everything falls into place. But I think the Jazz
1:07:00
Speaker 10: still will go with the best player available.
1:07:01
Speaker 8: Oh see, don't know if they're.
1:07:03
Speaker 10: A position that the Jazz obviously are looking for but again,
1:07:08
Speaker 10: and I'm saying that because I think Keyante made such
1:07:11
Speaker 10: a huge climb this year and to see the point
1:07:14
Speaker 10: guard of the future. Only a couple of people know that,
1:07:17
Speaker 10: and that includes that includes the age, both Angels and
1:07:21
Speaker 10: Justin Zanek and the ownership group and will Hardy.
1:07:26
Speaker 3: Craig, Bowler, Jacks my guest here on the Sean O'Connell show.
1:07:28
Speaker 3: We're talking a little NBA basketball. So the context of
1:07:32
Speaker 3: all this Utah Jazz discussion, of course, we hang on
1:07:36
Speaker 3: an NBA draft lottery that is going to be taking
1:07:39
Speaker 3: place on Mother's Day and we'll see how it works out,
1:07:42
Speaker 3: and then of course you got to try to develop
1:07:43
Speaker 3: that draft pick. But right now we're watching NBA playoffs
1:07:47
Speaker 3: and there are a couple of teams in the West
1:07:49
Speaker 3: that have already closed out their series. Okay, see with
1:07:53
Speaker 3: the sweep, the gentleman sweep from the San Antonio Spurs.
1:07:58
Speaker 2: And Bowler you know this better.
1:07:59
Speaker 3: Those are young teams. Still, those are the teams as
1:08:03
Speaker 3: you're chasing and you're trying to you're trying to climb
1:08:06
Speaker 3: into that stratosphere with this pick for the Jazz.
1:08:08
Speaker 2: And with development of the roster that you've got right.
1:08:11
Speaker 3: Now, when you watch what OKC and San Antonio are
1:08:14
Speaker 3: right now, I mean, how steep is that climb for
1:08:18
Speaker 3: this Jazz franchise.
1:08:21
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, the Jazz are chipping away, but it's
1:08:25
Speaker 10: a climb that you have to As you've seen in
1:08:28
Speaker 10: Oklahoma City, they did get the one player in SGA
1:08:30
Speaker 10: that kind of locked them to the next level, the
1:08:33
Speaker 10: next hemisphere, so to speak. The only thing that takes
1:08:36
Speaker 10: out the Thunder in my opinion, is injury. They were
1:08:39
Speaker 10: the best team that I saw all season long on
1:08:42
Speaker 10: both sides of the floor. Their defense was outstanding. That's
1:08:46
Speaker 10: why they won a title a year ago. How difficult
1:08:48
Speaker 10: is it oc to repeat? You know, just to get
1:08:52
Speaker 10: there at the Jazz ninety seven to ninety eight. Just
1:08:55
Speaker 10: to get there is an incredible accomplishment, but to win
1:08:59
Speaker 10: makes it even more impressive. But right now, I think
1:09:02
Speaker 10: the Thunder the best team in the NBA. The Spurs
1:09:05
Speaker 10: maybe played some of their best basketball after the All
1:09:08
Speaker 10: Star break, and then you have a potential upset here
1:09:11
Speaker 10: of maybe an moment if Minnesota goes on and knock
1:09:14
Speaker 10: off the Nuggets, and then you have to wonder about
1:09:17
Speaker 10: the future of what the Lakers and the Rockets are doing.
1:09:19
Speaker 10: But with Lebron, they could they could take that series
1:09:23
Speaker 10: against Houston and that could make Houston kind of rethink
1:09:26
Speaker 10: where they're going. And why I say that is because,
1:09:30
Speaker 10: oh see, as you know, in the off season, everyone's
1:09:32
Speaker 10: playing chess. Move a piece here, move a piece there.
1:09:36
Speaker 10: I'll trade out here, and then you have to kind
1:09:38
Speaker 10: of redefine what you're trying to do.
1:09:40
Speaker 2: In the East.
1:09:41
Speaker 10: I still think Detroit's the better team the teams that
1:09:45
Speaker 10: I saw. The Celtics have to be talked about because
1:09:49
Speaker 10: they've been there, they've got Tatum back, and then the
1:09:52
Speaker 10: Hawks have been playing kind of surprising hoop. They're they're
1:09:56
Speaker 10: down in that series, but New York seems to be
1:09:58
Speaker 10: a little bit shaky. So that's why you play. I
1:10:02
Speaker 10: kind of love I love this time of year. I
1:10:03
Speaker 10: love the tournament, the NCAA Tournament, and I love what
1:10:06
Speaker 10: I see in the NBA right now.
1:10:08
Speaker 3: Do you love the NCAA Tournament enough that you want
1:10:10
Speaker 3: to see seventy six teams in it every year?
1:10:13
Speaker 8: No?
1:10:14
Speaker 10: No, No, it's got you know what I hope, and
1:10:18
Speaker 10: it won't happen. They're gonna they're gonna change it because
1:10:20
Speaker 10: it's it's just so popular, but you dilute it. You
1:10:24
Speaker 10: know what, that's why you play, Sean you you know
1:10:26
Speaker 10: you what do they tell you every day on the field?
1:10:29
Speaker 2: Man?
1:10:29
Speaker 10: You know, work hard, play hard, and gain and what
1:10:32
Speaker 10: the game is winning? And I just don't think everyone
1:10:35
Speaker 10: deserves to be there. In fact, I know they shouldn't.
1:10:39
Speaker 10: That's that's why you play and and that's why you
1:10:42
Speaker 10: assemble the best teams you can. Uh, And that's why
1:10:45
Speaker 10: the Cinderella story is always good. Now if you add
1:10:47
Speaker 10: another one or two, okay, they think Cinderella will continue
1:10:51
Speaker 10: to live on. But you know, ask Big Tea about
1:10:53
Speaker 10: Cinderella in eighty three North Carolina State. Uh, those that's
1:10:58
Speaker 10: a team that will always be marked.
1:11:00
Speaker 8: Is so so special.
1:11:01
Speaker 10: With Jimmy Belvano, you know, I was lucky to play,
1:11:03
Speaker 10: not play, but thirteen years of NCAA tournament hoops at CBS,
1:11:08
Speaker 10: and man, I had a couple of great games along
1:11:13
Speaker 10: the way. In Tackle Bell Arena at Boise, all four
1:11:17
Speaker 10: games were buzzer beaters to.
1:11:18
Speaker 8: End to end it.
1:11:20
Speaker 10: I remember Greg Gumble that day said, ring the bell,
1:11:22
Speaker 10: tackle bell, it was fun. I just don't want to
1:11:26
Speaker 10: see it. I just don't want to see it get
1:11:27
Speaker 10: so deluded that you know, what are you gonna do? Now, Well,
1:11:30
Speaker 10: we deserve there to We played five hundred ball, we.
1:11:33
Speaker 8: Deserve to be there too. No you don't.
1:11:35
Speaker 10: I mean, this is why you play to earn the spot.
1:11:39
Speaker 10: Maybe I'm old school, but I know money talks, and
1:11:42
Speaker 10: that's really what it's all about. And well, you know,
1:11:45
Speaker 10: someone's gonna have to make a stand, and to say
1:11:46
Speaker 10: you know what systems to play in gives you a
1:11:50
Speaker 10: couple of outsiders right already. And I just don't think
1:11:53
Speaker 10: you need to overload it.
1:11:56
Speaker 3: And I know I'm getting a little convoluted here, but
1:11:59
Speaker 3: we were talking about how money kind of pushes so
1:12:02
Speaker 3: much of this change forward, and you're absolutely right. That's
1:12:06
Speaker 3: why the INCAA tournament looks like it's gonna expand to
1:12:09
Speaker 3: seventy six teams. It's a big reason why the NBA
1:12:13
Speaker 3: feels like they had to react to some of these
1:12:15
Speaker 3: tanking things because they've got sponsorship partners, most of them
1:12:19
Speaker 3: in the sports betting world that didn't like what they
1:12:22
Speaker 3: were seeing with the tanking and the manipulation of results
1:12:27
Speaker 3: for their betters, their wagerers. And we're seeing a college kid,
1:12:32
Speaker 3: a college quarterback at Texas Tech University who's checking into
1:12:36
Speaker 3: a rehab facility for a sports gambling problem.
1:12:39
Speaker 2: I'm not naive bowler.
1:12:40
Speaker 3: I know that people have been betting on sports for
1:12:42
Speaker 3: a long time. Now it's in your phone, it's in
1:12:45
Speaker 3: your hand, you got the apps. And I know plenty
1:12:49
Speaker 3: of people who can do it responsibly and it doesn't
1:12:51
Speaker 3: take over their life, and they would never even think about,
1:12:55
Speaker 3: you know, putting themselves or their family in a bad position.
1:12:58
Speaker 3: I know athletes who like to gamble, and they would
1:13:01
Speaker 3: do it recreationally without ever even thinking about betting on
1:13:04
Speaker 3: their own sport or their own team. But as we
1:13:07
Speaker 3: have accepted, as we have embraced sports betting as a
1:13:10
Speaker 3: normal part of American culture, the bleed over into sports
1:13:14
Speaker 3: and these point shaving scandals and these Hey, that's a
1:13:18
Speaker 3: starting quarterback betting on his own team or on his
1:13:20
Speaker 3: own sport.
1:13:21
Speaker 2: Maybe we shouldn't allow that.
1:13:22
Speaker 3: And now he's going to have his final year of
1:13:25
Speaker 3: eligibility taken away. Have we jumped the shark? Have we
1:13:28
Speaker 3: gone too far with the sports betting stuff?
1:13:33
Speaker 8: Sean?
1:13:34
Speaker 10: In one word, I say yes? But where do we
1:13:36
Speaker 10: go to pull ourselves back? Look, I think everyone knew
1:13:41
Speaker 10: what they were getting into, and it's dangerous territory.
1:13:46
Speaker 8: You know, the betting is for real. You said a
1:13:49
Speaker 8: great point.
1:13:50
Speaker 10: This has been going on since day one, you know,
1:13:53
Speaker 10: the black sock sock scandal of what one hundred years ago.
1:13:58
Speaker 10: I mean, betting is like, you know, it's if you
1:14:02
Speaker 10: have someone two teams playing, well, who's gonna win? Well,
1:14:04
Speaker 10: I'll bet you they are. You know, it sounds like
1:14:07
Speaker 10: a real simple to I'll bet you buck.
1:14:09
Speaker 2: You know.
1:14:09
Speaker 10: Then all of a sudden it's grown into what we
1:14:11
Speaker 10: know today and it's parlays. I mean, I can't even
1:14:15
Speaker 10: understand half the stuff O see honestly that people try
1:14:19
Speaker 10: to bet on different you know, different tangibles that come
1:14:23
Speaker 10: into play. And I think why the league also personally
1:14:27
Speaker 10: was concerned, is that from my standpoint, on a given
1:14:31
Speaker 10: game night and I wait for the final injury report
1:14:37
Speaker 10: in the last twenty or thirty games of the year,
1:14:39
Speaker 10: on some of those reports combined, teams would have twenty
1:14:42
Speaker 10: or so players not available. And so I think you
1:14:46
Speaker 10: make a great point, is that that impacts what the
1:14:51
Speaker 10: betting line will be the plus minus on a given night.
1:14:55
Speaker 8: And so that's the other issue is onto a p's.
1:15:02
Speaker 10: Corporations and companies that are involved and also allow the
1:15:07
Speaker 10: fan to have what they quote call a fair bed.
1:15:09
Speaker 10: But I don't get into that territory, man, I can't.
1:15:12
Speaker 10: The NBA doesn't allow it for me, which is good.
1:15:15
Speaker 10: And you know we have to, you know, take a
1:15:18
Speaker 10: test and pass it every year on knowing about you.
1:15:22
Speaker 8: Know, potential issues and people.
1:15:25
Speaker 10: Oh see, I'm sure even in what you do every day,
1:15:27
Speaker 10: what do you know? O see, what's your inside scoop?
1:15:29
Speaker 10: I can't talk about that. You know, that's just something
1:15:32
Speaker 10: we're not supposed to do.
1:15:34
Speaker 8: And I get it. But it's more.
1:15:36
Speaker 10: Difficult, I think, day by day because it's such an
1:15:38
Speaker 10: integral part of the sports news and sports talk radio.
1:15:43
Speaker 10: And it's difficult because it is such a huge topic
1:15:47
Speaker 10: and a moneymaker right now, not only in the NBA.
1:15:49
Speaker 10: We're talking baseball, NFL, college hoops, college football. It's out
1:15:53
Speaker 10: there and it's it's it's a monster. How do you
1:15:56
Speaker 10: attain it?
1:15:57
Speaker 8: Man? I don't know if you can.
1:16:00
Speaker 3: All right, before I let you go, this one is
1:16:02
Speaker 3: pretty unserious. But James and I are going to go
1:16:05
Speaker 3: through an exercise where we try to make sure we've
1:16:07
Speaker 3: got the right nicknames on all these Utah Mammoth players
1:16:10
Speaker 3: is they're in a heated playoff series with the Vegas
1:16:15
Speaker 3: Golden Knights. You know, still the team and some of
1:16:17
Speaker 3: the roster are still new to the community, so we
1:16:19
Speaker 3: got to make sure we're you know, Veggie's an obvious one,
1:16:22
Speaker 3: but what about the other guys.
1:16:23
Speaker 2: We're gonna go through an exercise.
1:16:24
Speaker 3: How many nicknames has Craig Bowler jack bestowed upon a
1:16:30
Speaker 3: player and they've actually stuck?
1:16:33
Speaker 8: Oh man, that's a great one.
1:16:36
Speaker 10: Oh to see, you know, just with the jazz off
1:16:40
Speaker 10: the top of my head. Two guys come into play.
1:16:43
Speaker 10: I mean, hot Rod was you know, the all time
1:16:46
Speaker 10: best I.
1:16:47
Speaker 8: Think money Man with memo.
1:16:50
Speaker 10: He was blowing you know, on his fingers and shoveling,
1:16:52
Speaker 10: you know, like you know, handing out ten dollar bills
1:16:56
Speaker 10: or something every time he knocked out a three. And
1:16:58
Speaker 10: then the flame with Jordan Clarkson, you know, flame on
1:17:02
Speaker 10: Big T and I kind of kind of coined that.
1:17:04
Speaker 8: A little bit.
1:17:05
Speaker 10: And then when the player takes it and runs with it,
1:17:09
Speaker 10: that's almost the intriguing part of it because he's hearing
1:17:13
Speaker 10: that from other fans and friends as well. But those
1:17:16
Speaker 10: who jump out the most. You know, nicknames come and
1:17:21
Speaker 10: go several, you know, with with Triple J. Don't know
1:17:25
Speaker 10: if we'll find something for him, but you know he's
1:17:27
Speaker 10: been in the league eight eight years going on nine,
1:17:30
Speaker 10: so he's well established.
1:17:31
Speaker 8: But you always kind of look at.
1:17:32
Speaker 10: The younger players and see what like Bryce, Hey, it
1:17:35
Speaker 10: makes sense sins of all. You know, it just kind
1:17:37
Speaker 10: of rolls off your tongue, you know. Yeah, and you
1:17:41
Speaker 10: know the old days of Ronnie Price. You know, the
1:17:43
Speaker 10: price is right. I mean, anything you can just it
1:17:46
Speaker 10: has some fun. Some fans roll their eyes, but I
1:17:49
Speaker 10: think it's you know, nicknames kind of come with come
1:17:52
Speaker 10: with a business, and it's almost as it's a compliment.
1:17:55
Speaker 10: You know that a player garners that much attention and
1:17:58
Speaker 10: that's his play makes you, you know, coin a phrase
1:18:03
Speaker 10: on occasion. But I love JC in the Flame and
1:18:05
Speaker 10: memo the money Man with some of the best. You know,
1:18:08
Speaker 10: Carl came in with a mailman and stocked in the Malone.
1:18:12
Speaker 10: I mean, I don't know how many times hot Rod
1:18:13
Speaker 10: was able to say that stocked in the Malone, stocked
1:18:16
Speaker 10: in them alone. But you couldn't say one without the other.
1:18:18
Speaker 10: That was the beauty of that combo. And it's rare
1:18:21
Speaker 10: that you get the opportunity as a play by play
1:18:23
Speaker 10: anoliser to have you know, combinations like that that allow
1:18:28
Speaker 10: you to build a phrase that just becomes commonplace. It's
1:18:33
Speaker 10: stocked in the Malone out to be in.
1:18:34
Speaker 8: The Webster Dictionary.
1:18:35
Speaker 10: I mean, just as you know what you know, great combinations,
1:18:39
Speaker 10: you know, great power forwards and point guards. But those
1:18:43
Speaker 10: two guys built their own. That's why the statues are
1:18:46
Speaker 10: out there. And look what they did on the floor.
1:18:48
Speaker 10: It's unbelievable.
1:18:50
Speaker 8: And it's fun.
1:18:51
Speaker 10: It's fun to see players grow and fans will sometimes
1:18:54
Speaker 10: give them you know that nickname as well, and there's
1:18:57
Speaker 10: a lot of them around the league, which is which
1:18:59
Speaker 10: makes it even more fun.
1:19:01
Speaker 3: Bowler can't tell you how much I appreciate your time.
1:19:04
Speaker 3: Wish we were listening to you calling some jazz games
1:19:07
Speaker 3: in these playoffs, but I think we'll get to that
1:19:09
Speaker 3: sooner than later, after this, after this last year.
1:19:13
Speaker 2: So thanks again, from time.
1:19:14
Speaker 8: Forward to October.
1:19:16
Speaker 10: Hey, by the way, takes some day.
1:19:17
Speaker 2: Quill, Yeah, I need something. We'll talk soon, all right.
1:19:23
Speaker 8: Thanks.
1:19:25
Speaker 3: That's Craig Bowler, jack voice of the Utah Jazz money Man.
1:19:29
Speaker 3: That's a good one for memo. He threw that out there.
1:19:33
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Speaker 3: The right guy to talk to, which by the way,
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Speaker 2: we got everything here.
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Speaker 9: I'm actually just the director of fun here.
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Speaker 3: one pick in the upcoming NFL NBA draft, has extended
1:25:13
Speaker 3: his Nike partnership.
1:25:14
Speaker 2: Remember he had a Nike.
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Speaker 3: Deal independent of what BYU was paying him to be
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Speaker 3: part of things down there in probo. His nil deal
1:25:23
Speaker 3: with Nike was of course lucrative and groundbreaking for him.
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Speaker 3: He has extended that to his pro career. He will
1:25:32
Speaker 3: be a Nike athlete to nobody's surprise. As a pro
1:25:36
Speaker 3: he got his own logo, which is like a lot
1:25:40
Speaker 3: of athletes get sponsored, a lot of athletes get partnerships
1:25:45
Speaker 3: in the NBA, and Nike's talked about this recently like
1:25:50
Speaker 3: their stock was in bad shape for a little bit.
1:25:53
Speaker 3: I don't know what it looks like today. There was
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Speaker 3: conversation about whether or not the popularity of NBA players
1:25:59
Speaker 3: the signature shoots were affecting the overall performance of Nike.
1:26:04
Speaker 2: But they are.
1:26:06
Speaker 3: They're going all in on Aj Debonsa. They've given him
1:26:08
Speaker 3: his own logo, the Starboys logo. Apparently Starboy was a
1:26:12
Speaker 3: nickname for Aj Debonsa when he was younger, and the
1:26:16
Speaker 3: Starboy logo is.
1:26:17
Speaker 2: Just just that, you know, it's a star but it's.
1:26:24
Speaker 3: It's made up of kind of abstract a's and j's
1:26:28
Speaker 3: because you know, Aj, it's a cool logo and he's
1:26:33
Speaker 3: got He's gonna have his own signature series of stuff.
1:26:36
Speaker 3: He's gonna have his own shoe. AJ Debonsa might be
1:26:42
Speaker 3: the first guy to play at a local university who
1:26:45
Speaker 3: got his own shoe. Has anyone else had their own shoe?
1:26:48
Speaker 3: Does Jim or have his own shoe? So he's got
1:26:51
Speaker 3: his own Nike shoe? He might have like an Anta
1:26:55
Speaker 3: from his his days in Chinese basketball.
1:26:58
Speaker 4: I was gonna say some some Chinese brand.
1:27:01
Speaker 2: I didn't.
1:27:02
Speaker 4: I've never heard of Onta. So some Chinese brand like that.
1:27:05
Speaker 4: Maybe it's given him a shoe and a logo.
1:27:08
Speaker 3: You have for sure heard of Onta, James. They are
1:27:12
Speaker 3: Anta is A. Yeah, they're They've got a bunch of
1:27:20
Speaker 3: NBA guys that they Let me see who's onto NBA players.
1:27:27
Speaker 2: Let's see who's got an Onto deal? Okay?
1:27:31
Speaker 3: Uh, Kyrie Irving wears those Onto shoes, you know, like
1:27:34
Speaker 3: he has those ones that look like they have fringe
1:27:36
Speaker 3: on them.
1:27:38
Speaker 4: I suppose I I'm like one of the weird sports
1:27:41
Speaker 4: people who don't notice people's shoes.
1:27:43
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, I'm
1:27:45
Speaker 3: the opposite of that. Klay Thompson has a lifetime deal
1:27:49
Speaker 3: with Anta.
1:27:49
Speaker 4: Yeah apparently, I just I just google them. I've never
1:27:53
Speaker 4: seen these shoes before in my life.
1:27:55
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, did we miss this?
1:28:00
Speaker 4: You know, I thought Anta was spelled with an. Oh
1:28:03
Speaker 4: that's how much I've never heard of om A NTA.
1:28:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to I now have to look this up.
1:28:08
Speaker 3: This is taking me down a rabbit hole. I did
1:28:10
Speaker 3: not Steph Curry, remember, was an under armor athlete, and
1:28:19
Speaker 3: as of April twenty twenty six, reports suggests Steph Curry
1:28:22
Speaker 3: is an advanced talks or has potentially already signed.
1:28:26
Speaker 2: Now he hasn't signed it or they would have made
1:28:28
Speaker 2: a big deal out of it.
1:28:29
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, a massive long term deal with Chinese brand Onta,
1:28:34
Speaker 3: with some reports speculating it could be a lifetime agreement
1:28:39
Speaker 3: worth over one billion dollars.
1:28:44
Speaker 4: He's taking that then, right, there's no way.
1:28:47
Speaker 3: And then here's another report that Steph Curry, Steph Curry
1:28:50
Speaker 3: has agreed to a ten year, seven hundred and fifty
1:28:53
Speaker 3: million dollars deal. Jeez, what also Anta? You know, Steph
1:28:58
Speaker 3: Curry's not going to play ten more years right now?
1:29:02
Speaker 3: I think Steph will be famous still, Yeah, he'll stay
1:29:05
Speaker 3: in the spotlight. But you're getting the last two years
1:29:09
Speaker 3: of Steph Curry's career and then another eight on top
1:29:12
Speaker 3: of it for seven hundred and fifty dollars.
1:29:16
Speaker 4: I got it. I don't know this for sure. Again,
1:29:18
Speaker 4: not not real, not really a sneaker head. But I
1:29:23
Speaker 4: don't know if they kept making Kobe's after he retired
1:29:27
Speaker 4: and before he unfortunately tragically passed away. Yeah, but like
1:29:31
Speaker 4: that's a guy, Yeah, that's a guy that they could
1:29:33
Speaker 4: have kept selling new Kobe's shoes. I could see that
1:29:36
Speaker 4: being the same way for Steph. So I don't know
1:29:38
Speaker 4: that a ten year deal, even if eight of them
1:29:41
Speaker 4: he's not he's not actually an active player, would be
1:29:44
Speaker 4: would be all that bad for a shoe, man.
1:29:46
Speaker 3: I just I don't know, Like, Okay, so this is
1:29:48
Speaker 3: interesting because I think you might need to kind of
1:29:52
Speaker 3: establish the shoe while he's in the NBA.
1:29:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like good point, it's Jordan's keep getting made.
1:30:02
Speaker 4: But Jordan was Air Jordan brand for his entire and
1:30:06
Speaker 4: for almost a twenty year NBA career up.
1:30:10
Speaker 2: And none of the more.
1:30:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, like like the Jordan's, the Jordans that people collect,
1:30:16
Speaker 3: and it's not just because he wore them, obviously, it's
1:30:18
Speaker 3: because they're like the style of shoes, they're well designed shoes,
1:30:22
Speaker 3: they're actually beautiful works of art. If you're into this
1:30:24
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. But the hot selling Jordans are shoes
1:30:30
Speaker 3: that Michael Jordan actually wore.
1:30:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, during his NBA career.
1:30:33
Speaker 3: They've made like they're up to like Jordan forties or something,
1:30:37
Speaker 3: but you're still selling the Jordan ones and the Jordan
1:30:41
Speaker 3: four's and the Jordan eleven's and thirteen's. Those were shoes
1:30:45
Speaker 3: he actually wore, and the different color ways and all
1:30:48
Speaker 3: that stuff continue to sell like hotcakes and continue to
1:30:52
Speaker 3: be major.
1:30:53
Speaker 2: Collectibles and stuff.
1:30:54
Speaker 3: So Onta, if you signed Steph Curry, awesome, good for you.
1:30:59
Speaker 2: Love me some stph Curry.
1:31:01
Speaker 3: He is like the most in my opinion, the most
1:31:03
Speaker 3: likable of all the NBA stars out there. But you
1:31:07
Speaker 3: better hit an absolute home run on the Steph Curry
1:31:11
Speaker 3: shoe that you're gonna design. Also, Steph, I understand why
1:31:14
Speaker 3: seven hundred and fifty million dollars sounds awesome, but damn
1:31:18
Speaker 3: you for not giving us a Steph Curry Nike shoe.
1:31:21
Speaker 4: I know, like he's that was the obvious front runner
1:31:27
Speaker 4: to sign him after he ended his deal with under
1:31:30
Speaker 4: Armers like, oh, he's gonna be a Nike guy. Uh,
1:31:33
Speaker 4: that's that's a bummer. If Nike, if we miss out
1:31:36
Speaker 4: on a Steph Curry Nike shoe if he signs with
1:31:38
Speaker 4: Donta instead.
1:31:40
Speaker 3: I mean every public appearance and Steph made after being
1:31:43
Speaker 3: released from the under Armour deal, he was wearing Nike's
1:31:46
Speaker 3: or Jordan's.
1:31:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like he had for the first time.
1:31:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had this collection that he wanted to roll out.
1:31:53
Speaker 4: I mean he's from Charlotte, so I'm sure he's gotten
1:31:57
Speaker 4: plenty of hookups, you know, directly from Jordan for the years.
1:32:03
Speaker 3: I would like to see that. I also, you know,
1:32:05
Speaker 3: I'm not opposed to a newcomer. I'm not opposed to
1:32:08
Speaker 3: a new mover in the sneaker market. If Anta gives
1:32:12
Speaker 3: us a cool shoe, they I don't. I think Kyrie's
1:32:15
Speaker 3: sort of like complicated personality probably makes it so. Yeah,
1:32:19
Speaker 3: people don't love the shoes sometimes.
1:32:22
Speaker 2: But he's got I forget what they're called.
1:32:26
Speaker 3: He's got like a really cool pair of shoes that
1:32:29
Speaker 3: look like they have like a fringe hanging off the
1:32:32
Speaker 3: top of them.
1:32:32
Speaker 2: It's like a really unique design.
1:32:35
Speaker 4: I think I found it when I just now when
1:32:37
Speaker 4: I did the it'll Google search. Yeah, it's it is.
1:32:41
Speaker 4: It is a cool, cool design with the little fringe.
1:32:45
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm just I'm weird that way. I I'll
1:32:48
Speaker 4: watch games with my brother and a couple other some
1:32:51
Speaker 4: friends who are big time sneaker heads, and then I'll
1:32:53
Speaker 4: be watching the game and then they'll pause it and
1:32:56
Speaker 4: go and like, zoom in, check out the shoes. Like
1:33:00
Speaker 4: I missed that completely. I was looking at the three
1:33:03
Speaker 4: point shot. But whatever.
1:33:07
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, that's if you're watching and you're watching for
1:33:10
Speaker 3: the basketball, James, you're really missing out.
1:33:13
Speaker 4: You should be.
1:33:14
Speaker 2: One thing I don't like now.
1:33:15
Speaker 3: Is how many people wear like a shoe that is
1:33:19
Speaker 3: completely outside of the color way of the uniform. Yeah,
1:33:24
Speaker 3: where you're wearing like a hot pink shoe and your
1:33:28
Speaker 3: Celtic's uniform.
1:33:29
Speaker 2: That doesn't make sense. You had.
1:33:30
Speaker 4: Donovan liked to wear the bright orange shoes occasionally with
1:33:36
Speaker 4: the Jazz, and he probably has continued that with Cleveland,
1:33:40
Speaker 4: and it's it was like, man, like, I know, trying
1:33:45
Speaker 4: to show personality and whatever, but like, I feel like
1:33:49
Speaker 4: matching's the best way to go.
1:33:51
Speaker 3: Well by all means, Donovan wear the bright orange shoe
1:33:55
Speaker 3: when you're wearing the city edition. Yeah uniform that's got orange.
1:34:00
Speaker 4: That's great, you'd wear it, He'd wear it with like
1:34:03
Speaker 4: the navy blue you know that when they had the
1:34:07
Speaker 4: navy blue road Jess, he'd wear it.
1:34:09
Speaker 2: Come on, makes it. It's hideous.
1:34:12
Speaker 3: And guys will wear like the weird like highlighter yellow shoes.
1:34:16
Speaker 3: They'll wear the mismatching shoes again, which is fine. It's
1:34:19
Speaker 3: cool if you're wearing like if you're a Dallas Maverick
1:34:23
Speaker 3: and you're wearing one blue shoe and one black shoe,
1:34:25
Speaker 3: or one blue shoe and one white shoe, I'm on board.
1:34:28
Speaker 3: If you're a Dallas Maverick and you're wearing one bright
1:34:31
Speaker 3: green shoe and one bright yellow shoe, you just look dumb. Okay,
1:34:36
Speaker 3: And now I sound like an old man yelling at
1:34:39
Speaker 3: kids to get off my lawn with their fancy shoes.
1:34:43
Speaker 3: I gotta remember that these guys, a lot of these
1:34:45
Speaker 3: guys are like twenty years old.
1:34:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're still figure out what looks good.
1:34:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I gotta I'm gonna have to pay close
1:34:53
Speaker 3: attention now to what Steph Curry's shoe deal future looks like,
1:34:59
Speaker 3: because if Ante closes this thing out and makes the
1:35:03
Speaker 3: official announcement from the company itself, that's a pretty lucrative deal.
1:35:09
Speaker 3: Even if he goes for the low end of the
1:35:11
Speaker 3: reported seven hundred and fifty million dollar rather than the
1:35:14
Speaker 3: lifetime deal at over one billion dollars. James, is there anything,
1:35:22
Speaker 3: Is there any particular like piece of clothing you would
1:35:27
Speaker 3: not you just couldn't bring yourself wearing for the rest
1:35:29
Speaker 3: of your life, even if it brought you a billion dollars,
1:35:33
Speaker 3: Like you you have to wear Doc Martin's every day
1:35:38
Speaker 3: and no other shoe, but you become a billionaire.
1:35:44
Speaker 4: Maybe yeah, I don't know.
1:35:48
Speaker 3: I have to think on that, Like you have to
1:35:50
Speaker 3: wear a tie every single day. Yeah, you could never
1:35:54
Speaker 3: be seen, You could never be seen in public without
1:35:57
Speaker 3: a neck tie on.
1:36:00
Speaker 4: It would be something like that, like maybe not yeah,
1:36:03
Speaker 4: maybe not being being able to wear like T shirts
1:36:08
Speaker 4: in public, Like maybe it's it's like I have to
1:36:10
Speaker 4: I have to wear some kind of button up shirt
1:36:12
Speaker 4: in public every day. I love I love wearing T shirts.
1:36:16
Speaker 3: What if what if you had to wear long sleeves
1:36:20
Speaker 3: every day for the rest of your life but you
1:36:23
Speaker 3: get a million or sorry, a billion dollars?
1:36:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I couldn't do long sleeve in the summer.
1:36:29
Speaker 2: You couldn't be long sleeve for a billion.
1:36:32
Speaker 4: Well, for a billion.
1:36:36
Speaker 2: What if it was only when you were in public.
1:36:39
Speaker 4: I could do. I could do I could probably do
1:36:42
Speaker 4: that for a billion dollars, But that would I would
1:36:44
Speaker 4: be like Dwight in that the episode where they make him.
1:36:49
Speaker 4: It's when Adris elba Is is on there for a
1:36:52
Speaker 4: few episodes and he makes him wear a long sleeve
1:36:55
Speaker 4: shirt and Dwight always says the short sleeve shirts and
1:36:57
Speaker 4: he's like, everything's restricted. Like I'd be like that. I
1:37:03
Speaker 4: would not be happy. But I but you know what
1:37:07
Speaker 4: nine figures in the bank account or whatever that is
1:37:11
Speaker 4: make me a little happier.
1:37:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think you could you guess.
1:37:17
Speaker 4: That ten figures one billion, one billion dollars is a yeah,
1:37:22
Speaker 4: that's ten figures, it's one digit and then nine zero
1:37:26
Speaker 4: that's right, So ten figures that that would improve my mood.
1:37:30
Speaker 3: And then okay, So the the text line, what a
1:37:34
Speaker 3: blind spot? I can't believe I mentioned earlier in the conversation.
1:37:38
Speaker 3: Is Aja going to be the first guy who played
1:37:40
Speaker 3: at a local college to have his own shoe?
1:37:42
Speaker 2: Of course not. Damian Lillard has.
1:37:44
Speaker 3: His own shoe, and Damian Lillard very famously was actually
1:37:48
Speaker 3: involved in the design of his own shoe. He wasn't
1:37:51
Speaker 3: just like, hey, Adidas, you guys have designers, had them
1:37:55
Speaker 3: send me a bunch of proposals. He like went out
1:37:58
Speaker 3: to headquarters and he talked with artists, and he like
1:38:02
Speaker 3: went to the fabric sample room and all that kind
1:38:04
Speaker 3: of stuff.
1:38:04
Speaker 2: He's a superhands on guy. Yeah, my bad, Dame. Of course,
1:38:09
Speaker 2: Dame Lilard has his own shoe. Thanks to Ryan and
1:38:11
Speaker 2: Eric for letting us.
1:38:14
Speaker 4: Know he's listening and he's pissed at you.
1:38:17
Speaker 2: Dame is a regular listener to the show.
1:38:19
Speaker 4: Whenever he's in Ogden, he tunes in. And you're not
1:38:22
Speaker 4: that far from Ogden, so you better watch out.
1:38:25
Speaker 3: Dame swing by the Layton Hills Mall for the Paris
1:38:29
Speaker 3: RV tent sale that's happening right now, even for you,
1:38:32
Speaker 3: Damian Lillard on thousand dollars off if you mentioned you
1:38:35
Speaker 3: heard about the sale on the Sean o'connells.
1:38:37
Speaker 2: Show in ESPN seven hundred.
1:38:40
Speaker 3: You think Dame's more of a motor home guy or
1:38:41
Speaker 3: a travel trailer guy. I bet he's already got a
1:38:46
Speaker 3: big truck. He just wants a travel trailer.
1:38:48
Speaker 4: Yeah, trade, he's got the truck, he just needs something
1:38:52
Speaker 4: to haul with the something for the truck to haul.
1:38:54
Speaker 3: You think a Mercedes G wagon is actually good for
1:38:57
Speaker 3: hauling things?
1:38:59
Speaker 4: Probably not, I don't know, Probably about as good as
1:39:01
Speaker 4: the old cyber trucks are for hauling things. Actually, you
1:39:06
Speaker 4: know what, probably better, because those cyber trucks are, for whatever,
1:39:09
Speaker 4: the absolute worst for that sort of it.
1:39:11
Speaker 3: It's a battery life thing, right, They're powerful enough, but
1:39:13
Speaker 3: you can't call them very far.
1:39:15
Speaker 2: Is that how it is?
1:39:15
Speaker 4: Something like that? Well, and they look really stupid, so
1:39:20
Speaker 4: there's that too.
1:39:21
Speaker 2: You don't like the look of them.
1:39:23
Speaker 4: They're They're the ugliest thing. I every time I see one,
1:39:27
Speaker 4: I'm like, you idiot for thinking that's a cool thing
1:39:30
Speaker 4: to drive around like idiots. Alright, cross spots to our
1:39:36
Speaker 4: no offense to our cyber truck listeners.
1:39:37
Speaker 3: Out crowd sponsor of today's show, Tesla Salt Lake City,
1:39:40
Speaker 3: All thanks, James, you really well, not now.
1:39:44
Speaker 2: Not now.
1:39:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are funny looking. I don't mind them though,
1:39:51
Speaker 3: kind of like, oh, it looks like a spaceship.
1:39:55
Speaker 2: All right. That's all for the Daily Dump.
1:39:57
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1:40:12
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1:40:26
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Speaker 3: Right, we got Adrian Denny joining us in about five
1:40:47
Speaker 3: minutes here on the Sean O'Connell Show. As we close
1:40:51
Speaker 3: out our number two though, I want to remind all
1:40:53
Speaker 3: of you that this weekend at the Leyton Hills Mall,
1:40:56
Speaker 3: northwest corner of the mall, the parking lot outside the
1:40:59
Speaker 3: jay Z Penny, you've got the Paris RV tensale happening
1:41:03
Speaker 3: right now. Millions of dollars of high quality used RVs,
1:41:07
Speaker 3: and Troy's here to talk about everything they have to offer. Troy,
1:41:11
Speaker 3: thanks for hopping on again.
1:41:13
Speaker 2: Hey my pleasure.
1:41:14
Speaker 11: I think I better edit myself a little bit this
1:41:17
Speaker 11: time though. No free trailers.
1:41:20
Speaker 3: There are no free trailers get a thousand dollars off though,
1:41:23
Speaker 3: But we do have them stacked deep and we are
1:41:26
Speaker 3: selling them cheap.
1:41:27
Speaker 9: So we've got literally everything.
1:41:29
Speaker 11: We've got everything from a little five thousand dollars ten
1:41:33
Speaker 11: trailer up to a big high end fifth Well, we've
1:41:36
Speaker 11: got tongue pools, we got tons of motor homes. We've
1:41:40
Speaker 11: even got a superc and an airstream here.
1:41:44
Speaker 2: What's a supersed?
1:41:45
Speaker 9: Super c is like a classy on steroid.
1:41:48
Speaker 11: It's got the big on the big chassis, literally could
1:41:52
Speaker 11: take it off road, and they're just super super cool.
1:41:55
Speaker 9: As matter of fact, I was kind of thinking, so
1:41:59
Speaker 9: I think.
1:42:00
Speaker 11: That you probably look pretty good in one, so maybe
1:42:03
Speaker 11: we'll just sell.
1:42:03
Speaker 2: It to you, all right, that's not a bad idea,
1:42:05
Speaker 2: I actually was. I was popping in these little sunseekers
1:42:08
Speaker 2: over here, and Bratt told me these are rental returns.
1:42:10
Speaker 2: Everything like they're brand new and.
1:42:12
Speaker 11: Stud Yeah, so we are super super selective on who
1:42:15
Speaker 11: we buy those from. We get them from a company
1:42:18
Speaker 11: that literally they take better care of them.
1:42:21
Speaker 9: Then people take.
1:42:22
Speaker 11: Care of their own personal stuff, so every time they
1:42:25
Speaker 11: come back from rental.
1:42:26
Speaker 9: They get REPDI checked over. And the cool thing is
1:42:31
Speaker 9: so they they sell.
1:42:32
Speaker 11: Them to us before they get too many miles on them.
1:42:35
Speaker 11: But literally, you could save thirty to fifty thousand dollars
1:42:40
Speaker 11: on them, and you can get an extended warranty on them.
1:42:44
Speaker 11: You can finance them for two hundred and forty months,
1:42:47
Speaker 11: get a super cheap payment, and just have more fun
1:42:49
Speaker 11: than you Maily thought possible in them.
1:42:52
Speaker 3: And look, I get it, you're not going to use
1:42:55
Speaker 3: a motor home as your daily driver. You might not
1:42:57
Speaker 3: even use one of these pop up bands as your
1:42:59
Speaker 3: daily driver. But when you're not raised in this world,
1:43:03
Speaker 3: you don't know how much these things cost. I just
1:43:05
Speaker 3: want to give people a sense, like if you're driving
1:43:07
Speaker 3: around a truck or an suv right now, even if
1:43:10
Speaker 3: you bought it used like I did at the end
1:43:12
Speaker 3: of last year, we got a Ford expedition with low miles.
1:43:15
Speaker 3: Is a great, great deal. I felt like we got
1:43:17
Speaker 3: taken care of. But I'm looking at this motor home
1:43:20
Speaker 3: with a shower in a bathroom and sleeping multiple people
1:43:24
Speaker 3: in it, and the price tag on that is less
1:43:27
Speaker 3: than I paid.
1:43:27
Speaker 2: For my day car.
1:43:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that is a good, good ding pull point.
1:43:32
Speaker 11: A lot of people don't realize they're a lot more
1:43:34
Speaker 11: affordable than what you think. And I'll bet you even
1:43:38
Speaker 11: though it's less money than the truck that you bought,
1:43:41
Speaker 11: I'll bet the payment's cheaper on the motor home too,
1:43:43
Speaker 11: because I was telling you you can finance it for
1:43:47
Speaker 11: twenty years.
1:43:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's about about one hundred dollars per thousand. Finance
1:43:51
Speaker 3: is going to be your monthly payment.
1:43:52
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep. So you got plenty of options up here.
1:43:57
Speaker 3: They will work with you on a bunch of different
1:43:59
Speaker 3: financial institutions, make sure you get the best rate, the
1:44:02
Speaker 3: best financing, the best payment plan. Or you know what,
1:44:05
Speaker 3: if you're a big baller like Troy, you just come in,
1:44:07
Speaker 3: you slap down a pile of cash, and you say,
1:44:09
Speaker 3: I want that airstream.
1:44:11
Speaker 6: Let's go home.
1:44:11
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:44:12
Speaker 11: I just bought about three of them just twenty minutes ago.
1:44:14
Speaker 11: But I saved a thousand bucks per copy because I
1:44:17
Speaker 11: mentioned your name.
1:44:18
Speaker 3: So, man, if that's the only thing to getting you
1:44:21
Speaker 3: a discount, and working at Paris Army didn't help you out,
1:44:24
Speaker 3: that's a you problem, Troy.
1:44:26
Speaker 2: This airstream, by the way, it's not just a regular airstream.
1:44:28
Speaker 2: It's like the fancies the pottery party.
1:44:31
Speaker 11: Yeah, this thing is super nice, super clean, you know,
1:44:33
Speaker 11: and airstream's a kind of a unique product.
1:44:36
Speaker 9: It takes a specific buyer for him.
1:44:39
Speaker 11: Right, But I'll tell you what I mean, who doesn't
1:44:42
Speaker 11: want an airstream? Right, They're super lightweight, super cool. They've
1:44:46
Speaker 11: got tons of really cool bells and whistles and gosh,
1:44:50
Speaker 11: you'll just have a ton of fun in that thing.
1:44:52
Speaker 11: A lot of people buy those, go cross country in them.
1:44:56
Speaker 3: And the wild thing about airstreams, I've been down this
1:44:59
Speaker 3: rabbit hole like a lot of vehicles.
1:45:01
Speaker 2: We know this. Vehicles are depreciating assets for the most part.
1:45:04
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, if you take good care of your airstream, yeah,
1:45:08
Speaker 3: it becomes a classic.
1:45:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, amen to that.
1:45:10
Speaker 9: You're one hundred percent spot on on that.
1:45:12
Speaker 11: So yeah, so come take a look at this guy.
1:45:16
Speaker 11: We got a little new camp tab four hundred. That's
1:45:19
Speaker 11: super cool, super high end. We got freaking class bees.
1:45:24
Speaker 11: Like he had mentioned the motorhome. I just wanted to
1:45:27
Speaker 11: touch on the motor home. So I raised my kids
1:45:30
Speaker 11: in little motor homes. And all my kids were competitive
1:45:34
Speaker 11: in sports, and for us we would just take that
1:45:37
Speaker 11: when when we're waiting for their event to start, we'd
1:45:40
Speaker 11: just hang out in the motor home, watch movies and
1:45:43
Speaker 11: just have fun.
1:45:43
Speaker 3: So I mean for camping, for sports, traveling around you
1:45:49
Speaker 3: on a road trip across the country, it's a lot
1:45:52
Speaker 3: more comfortable and financially probably makes sense now with how
1:45:56
Speaker 3: much hotels and flights are.
1:45:58
Speaker 2: Amen to that.
1:45:59
Speaker 4: You know, think about this too.
1:46:01
Speaker 11: I didn't mean to cut you off there, but literally,
1:46:04
Speaker 11: what do your kids.
1:46:05
Speaker 9: Talk about when they're growing up?
1:46:07
Speaker 2: They don't talk about all.
1:46:08
Speaker 11: The beanings they got, right, They just talk about all
1:46:11
Speaker 11: the time they went camping.
1:46:12
Speaker 4: At least that's what happened with me, and I beat.
1:46:14
Speaker 2: My kids a lot.
1:46:18
Speaker 3: Well, we won't endorse that part of it, but I'm
1:46:21
Speaker 3: telling you the Paris RV ten sales where you want
1:46:24
Speaker 3: to be this weekend one thousand dollars off if you
1:46:27
Speaker 3: mentioned you heard about it on the Sean O'Connell show,
1:46:29
Speaker 3: if you listen to it on ESPN seven hundred and
1:46:32
Speaker 3: ten am to dusk all weekend long. So come out,
1:46:36
Speaker 3: ask for Troy, ask for Brett, say get me in
1:46:39
Speaker 3: the right vehicle and they'll guide you through the process
1:46:42
Speaker 3: if you don't know what you really need.
1:46:44
Speaker 2: I got three kids, I got a truck. What can
1:46:48
Speaker 2: I afford? They're gonna make sure that they put you
1:46:50
Speaker 2: in the right vehicle. And cool thing too. We are low,
1:46:53
Speaker 2: low pressure too.
1:46:54
Speaker 11: It's not like if you come into the display, you're
1:46:57
Speaker 11: gonna have fifty million salespeople up and on top of you.
1:47:01
Speaker 9: We've only got a couple guys here.
1:47:02
Speaker 2: We do that for a reason.
1:47:04
Speaker 11: We like, we know people like to look around a
1:47:06
Speaker 11: little bit and not be bothered by pushy.
1:47:10
Speaker 2: Salesman, so we make it super, super easy.
1:47:12
Speaker 9: And a ton of fun.
1:47:14
Speaker 2: Amen to that part.
1:47:15
Speaker 3: I can't tell you how many times I've just walked
1:47:17
Speaker 3: away from something because you walk in and someone's like, hey,
1:47:21
Speaker 3: can I help you out? You're like no, I'm just looking,
1:47:23
Speaker 3: and they won't let you just look. Yeah, yeah, follow
1:47:25
Speaker 3: you around?
1:47:25
Speaker 2: What about this? What about this? Yeah? What about it?
1:47:28
Speaker 2: I just want to look.
1:47:29
Speaker 3: Troy's gonna let you look, and then when you have questions,
1:47:32
Speaker 3: He's going to answer all of them for you. Paris
1:47:35
Speaker 3: Arvill ten Sail Paris RV ten sales happening at the
1:47:38
Speaker 3: Layton Hills mall this weekend ten am to dusk.
1:47:42
Speaker 2: All right, we go between the.
1:47:44
Speaker 3: Pipes Adrian Denny. Are you tell Mammoth Insider is here?
1:47:48
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1:47:52
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1:47:55
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1:47:55
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1:48:08
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1:48:20
Speaker 3: Our number three starts with Adrian Danny. We go between
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1:48:26
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Speaker 2: Our friend in NHL Hockey Insider, Adrian. Welcome, how are you?
1:48:37
Speaker 2: It's up, pos C. How's it going man? Thanks for
1:48:39
Speaker 2: coming up to Whaite Hill's mom. You kidding me?
1:48:41
Speaker 13: I wouldn't miss an RV parking lot sale for the world,
1:48:44
Speaker 13: so it just worked out perfect.
1:48:46
Speaker 2: These things actually are really cool.
1:48:48
Speaker 13: Just I could look all day in these things. Just
1:48:50
Speaker 13: go inside, sit down, do some work.
1:48:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm all in on this. The problem I have
1:48:56
Speaker 2: is I'm like, I need this one, and then I
1:48:58
Speaker 2: walk into the next one. I'm like, yeah, nope, I
1:49:01
Speaker 2: need this one.
1:49:01
Speaker 3: Well, there's not a bad decision to make and walk
1:49:04
Speaker 3: into a big expensive one's muck. Yeah I need this.
1:49:09
Speaker 3: I definitely want this one. That's one hundred and fifty
1:49:11
Speaker 3: thousand dollars. But in any case, let's get to some
1:49:15
Speaker 3: NHL hockey. Let's get into some Mammoth versus Nights back
1:49:19
Speaker 3: on the road tonight at the Fortress in Vegas.
1:49:22
Speaker 2: Series all tied up to two.
1:49:25
Speaker 3: We were watching with great interest the other nights when
1:49:28
Speaker 3: Utah battled back from being down three zero, took the
1:49:32
Speaker 3: four to three lead, gave up the equalizer lates, and
1:49:35
Speaker 3: ended up unfortunately losing in overtime on home ice to Vegas.
1:49:40
Speaker 3: But now it's a three game series.
1:49:42
Speaker 2: It is.
1:49:43
Speaker 13: And I told James Peterson, our executive producer, stopped by
1:49:47
Speaker 13: during the second intermission on Monday night, and I said,
1:49:50
Speaker 13: I don't have a feeling one way or another where
1:49:55
Speaker 13: we're gonna win this game for tonight, But watching these
1:49:58
Speaker 13: guys right now, they can win this series because they believe,
1:50:03
Speaker 13: they've they've got the confidence. The way they made three
1:50:05
Speaker 13: to think three two, I thought, Okay, nothing is gonna
1:50:08
Speaker 13: turn these guys aside and going into the playoffs, for me,
1:50:13
Speaker 13: that's that that was one of the bigger things. Right,
1:50:16
Speaker 13: it's a first year playoff team together. Are they gonna
1:50:20
Speaker 13: have that confidence and swagger that they use the regular
1:50:24
Speaker 13: season to get to this point. Sometimes you'll see a
1:50:27
Speaker 13: team go out and they'll they'll play good, but you
1:50:29
Speaker 13: can just tell they're a little tight, and they don't
1:50:31
Speaker 13: win the one goal games and they come close.
1:50:34
Speaker 2: But two to two here going.
1:50:35
Speaker 13: Into game five, I saw something in Game four that
1:50:41
Speaker 13: to me, really made a statement from this group as
1:50:44
Speaker 13: a whole.
1:50:45
Speaker 2: They believe and they're they're not.
1:50:49
Speaker 13: You know, afraid of anything here, And for me, that's
1:50:52
Speaker 13: that's the biggest thing you could ever have. One thing
1:50:54
Speaker 13: I've noticed through this series, and I think, you know,
1:50:56
Speaker 13: the final ten or so games in the regular season
1:51:00
Speaker 13: is and I know this is like low hanging fruit
1:51:03
Speaker 13: type stuff, but it feels like.
1:51:05
Speaker 2: When they're giving up goals, a lot of the situations
1:51:08
Speaker 2: where this team is giving up goals is not because
1:51:13
Speaker 2: the other team is better. Oh, that guy's shot is
1:51:16
Speaker 2: just that good or whatever.
1:51:18
Speaker 3: A lot of it is like, oh, there was an
1:51:20
Speaker 3: obvious error by the mammoth that led to the score,
1:51:24
Speaker 3: and you never want to make those errors and you
1:51:27
Speaker 3: never want to make that excuse. It's just like, well,
1:51:29
Speaker 3: as long as we played clean hockey, we're gonna win.
1:51:32
Speaker 3: But there are plenty of teams out there. Most of
1:51:36
Speaker 3: them are not in the playoffs. I think all of
1:51:37
Speaker 3: them are not in the playoffs.
1:51:38
Speaker 2: Where they're doing their darnest and they just don't have it.
1:51:42
Speaker 2: It's just not enough.
1:51:42
Speaker 3: They're just not good enough, even at their very best,
1:51:46
Speaker 3: to win these meaningful games. And when you see this
1:51:50
Speaker 3: team giving up goals, it's like, oh, it's explainable. It's like, well,
1:51:55
Speaker 3: that happened because that thing happened first. That happened because
1:51:58
Speaker 3: of that error past that happened because of that mispuck handling.
1:52:03
Speaker 3: That happened because of some miscommunication in front of the
1:52:05
Speaker 3: crease or whatever. And it feels like the errors are explainable,
1:52:10
Speaker 3: which means I think they're fixable, and with that comes
1:52:14
Speaker 3: adjustments hopefully for Game five.
1:52:16
Speaker 13: Yeah, makes sense that one hundred percent makes sense, and
1:52:19
Speaker 13: you can look at it taking that another step in.
1:52:23
Speaker 2: You know, Vegas in the last couple of games.
1:52:25
Speaker 13: In particular, has controlled the Utah zone five on five.
1:52:29
Speaker 13: They've had a lot of puck possession, but they haven't
1:52:33
Speaker 13: necessarily generated a lot of offense. They've had the puck,
1:52:39
Speaker 13: but I think the frustration down in Vegas is haven't
1:52:42
Speaker 13: done very much with it, and Utah has made them work.
1:52:47
Speaker 13: Eleven of their twelve goals have come within seventeen feet
1:52:50
Speaker 13: of the net. So everything Vegas has gotten in this series,
1:52:55
Speaker 13: they've had to work for that tip that made it
1:52:57
Speaker 13: four to four, the puck that they threw in to
1:53:00
Speaker 13: win the game on Monday Night, they they have had to,
1:53:06
Speaker 13: you know, lift the offense and really force it against
1:53:13
Speaker 13: against the mammoths. So so that's one thing. So you
1:53:16
Speaker 13: could you could say, what they've had the puck for
1:53:18
Speaker 13: so much longer and you know the shot differential, But
1:53:21
Speaker 13: then you can look at the Utah side of it
1:53:22
Speaker 13: and say, but the mammoth have generated offense and fast
1:53:28
Speaker 13: and they haven't needed, you know, to possess the puck for.
1:53:34
Speaker 2: Minutes at a time to get their goals. They've been able.
1:53:37
Speaker 13: To stretch pucks up ahead, use their speed and skill
1:53:42
Speaker 13: to score. They've got eight goals on their last forty
1:53:46
Speaker 13: two shots, which is about some math on the air, about.
1:53:49
Speaker 2: Seventeen eighteen percent shooting percentage.
1:53:51
Speaker 13: So that's that's high and you're saying, gosh, is that
1:53:54
Speaker 13: going to continue to come? But if you look at
1:53:57
Speaker 13: the last month of the regular season, Amas scored four
1:54:00
Speaker 13: goals or more and ten of their fourteen games, and
1:54:03
Speaker 13: their shooting percentage was exactly where it's been in the
1:54:07
Speaker 13: last couple of games. So they put up four goals
1:54:10
Speaker 13: in two straight contests. So Utah has been able to
1:54:14
Speaker 13: generate offense quickly with their speed, but they've also done
1:54:18
Speaker 13: a good job of coming back and getting another goal
1:54:22
Speaker 13: four times on the home stand, on all eight of
1:54:26
Speaker 13: their goals they scored another goal less than six minutes later,
1:54:31
Speaker 13: and in the case on Monday, they scored two goals
1:54:34
Speaker 13: twenty nine seconds apart, they scored two goals just over
1:54:39
Speaker 13: three minutes apart. Right, So the Mammoth have been clicking.
1:54:43
Speaker 13: They've they've been able to take advantage of what they
1:54:47
Speaker 13: do well, and that's generate good, high opportunity, high end
1:54:51
Speaker 13: scoring chances in Vegas has had to really really work
1:54:55
Speaker 13: for it.
1:54:56
Speaker 2: So I think that's I think that's a positive.
1:54:59
Speaker 13: Plus the mammoth is we now go into Games five, six,
1:55:02
Speaker 13: and seven playing every other day after we played two
1:55:05
Speaker 13: games and six nights. They've been able as the younger team,
1:55:09
Speaker 13: a much younger team, to really manage the minutes and
1:55:12
Speaker 13: spread everything out across the board. Vegas has really leaned
1:55:17
Speaker 13: on their stars, and they're older, and they played a lot.
1:55:20
Speaker 2: Michael played thirty three minutes the other.
1:55:22
Speaker 13: Night, and and I'm I'm not gonna say that's that's
1:55:28
Speaker 13: a really bad sign for Vegas. It's NFL and everybody's
1:55:30
Speaker 13: condition well, but it's it's another little thing to watch
1:55:34
Speaker 13: for as we break down every single microscopic detail and
1:55:38
Speaker 13: what could be a seven game series here. Utah's younger
1:55:43
Speaker 13: and their guys are going to be fresher.
1:55:45
Speaker 3: Okay, I asked this question we had Mike Fulton. Yeah, well,
1:55:50
Speaker 3: I've asked this question to every hockey guest we've had
1:55:52
Speaker 3: this week.
1:55:52
Speaker 2: How many times did we see Veggie lose his stick with.
1:55:59
Speaker 3: The other team, you know, ready to fire one off
1:56:03
Speaker 3: this year? I mean, I don't recall seeing it other
1:56:07
Speaker 3: than we saw the other night, But you watched every
1:56:09
Speaker 3: single game all the way through.
1:56:11
Speaker 2: So how many times did that happen this year? What?
1:56:14
Speaker 13: Twice on Monday and twice all year? Probably there there
1:56:20
Speaker 13: were some scrambles in front, and that's that's how Vegas
1:56:24
Speaker 13: got their final goal. I think I think Veggie can
1:56:27
Speaker 13: be I think he think he can be a huge factory.
1:56:30
Speaker 13: I think Utah holds the goaltending advantage. He gives up
1:56:33
Speaker 13: four goals in UH regulation on Monday five for the final.
1:56:39
Speaker 2: Only twice this year did.
1:56:40
Speaker 13: He give up four more goals in two straight starts.
1:56:45
Speaker 2: So I also want to talk about two of those goals. Yeah,
1:56:49
Speaker 2: did redirects from Howden? Yeah, we're ridiculous.
1:56:51
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's that's what we're talking about. Vegas having to
1:56:55
Speaker 13: work to get what they're getting. So that's that's that's huge.
1:56:59
Speaker 13: And and howden's a playoff player.
1:57:02
Speaker 2: Man, he's a third line forward.
1:57:04
Speaker 13: You don't hear anything about him, and then you watch
1:57:06
Speaker 13: him in a playoff series and you're like, hmm, I
1:57:09
Speaker 13: kind of like him.
1:57:11
Speaker 3: Going back to before the playoffs started, I was asking you,
1:57:15
Speaker 3: you know, who needs to step up for the mammoth?
1:57:17
Speaker 3: Who needs to be somebody that really emerges in this
1:57:20
Speaker 3: first series against Vegas and.
1:57:22
Speaker 2: You threw out. He threw out.
1:57:24
Speaker 3: Brandon Tannem's name was one of the first ones. Has
1:57:28
Speaker 3: he lived up to what this team needs from him?
1:57:30
Speaker 2: I think he's been great.
1:57:32
Speaker 13: He moved up a line on on Monday night in
1:57:35
Speaker 13: the middle of the game.
1:57:37
Speaker 2: There's just something about him.
1:57:39
Speaker 13: And we talk about Vegas and all the playoff experience
1:57:41
Speaker 13: that they have, but Brandon Tanne's a guy that can
1:57:44
Speaker 13: add it for the Mammoth. He's gone to the second
1:57:48
Speaker 13: round in foro of the six years that he's made
1:57:50
Speaker 13: the playoffs, he's made the playoffs and now seven of
1:57:53
Speaker 13: his nine years playing in the NHL. There's there's just
1:57:56
Speaker 13: something about that, that big game.
1:58:01
Speaker 2: Situation that that he's in.
1:58:03
Speaker 13: And he scored the game winning goal for Providence in
1:58:05
Speaker 13: the Frozen Four to win an NCAA championship.
1:58:08
Speaker 2: Over Jack Eichel.
1:58:10
Speaker 13: It was off the face off play uh Providence was
1:58:15
Speaker 13: going up against iikeel that they win the face off
1:58:19
Speaker 13: and and Tanna scored the goal.
1:58:20
Speaker 2: So he's he's he's just kind of got he's just kind.
1:58:24
Speaker 13: Of got that uh ilk kind of if you will,
1:58:28
Speaker 13: of big game. Does it appear in the box score,
1:58:31
Speaker 13: not necessarily, but but he's just kind of out there
1:58:34
Speaker 13: and you know, hitting guys and and adding adding a positive,
1:58:41
Speaker 13: positive impact.
1:58:43
Speaker 2: What are they doing with JJ Patterka in this game?
1:58:47
Speaker 13: Based on the reports that we got for morning Skate,
1:58:50
Speaker 13: it sounds like JJ is gonna go down to the
1:58:53
Speaker 13: fourth line. It also sounds like Barrett Hayton could be back.
1:58:58
Speaker 13: He was taking line rushes at Morning Skate in Vegas
1:59:04
Speaker 13: today with Michael Carconi and Alexander Kerfe. So sounds like
1:59:11
Speaker 13: Hayton Beryl tell us game time decision. But if based
1:59:15
Speaker 13: on the reports from Morning Skate today, it sounds like
1:59:18
Speaker 13: Hayton could be back. But Turka goes down to the
1:59:22
Speaker 13: fourth line. He didn't play for the second half of
1:59:24
Speaker 13: the third period and overtime, and and Bear, you know,
1:59:28
Speaker 13: gave gave a good answer like it's just it's just
1:59:32
Speaker 13: part of part of this, you see. He gave an example.
1:59:34
Speaker 13: It's like Clayton Keller, Nick Schmaltz when they were coming up,
1:59:38
Speaker 13: it wasn't all you know, rainbows and strawberries and and
1:59:45
Speaker 13: it wasn't all fun fun times like there's there's there's things.
1:59:49
Speaker 13: And remember Logan Cooley last year got benched in a
1:59:53
Speaker 13: in a game and in late December after he took
1:59:56
Speaker 13: a penalty and just just kind of the I I
2:00:02
Speaker 13: think for JJ, it's it's it's gonna come. No goals
2:00:05
Speaker 13: in the playoffs so far twenty five in the regular season,
2:00:09
Speaker 13: you hope you get one or two. Has it shot
2:00:11
Speaker 13: the puck either, Like there's been some instances of like
2:00:14
Speaker 13: JJ shoot that man.
2:00:16
Speaker 2: Well there he had a bad game the other ya, right,
2:00:18
Speaker 2: and there's that's fine. Right. The reason I say it's fine.
2:00:22
Speaker 3: Is because, like he's a big acquisition for this team,
2:00:26
Speaker 3: and he gave up some important assets in order to
2:00:29
Speaker 3: get him, and him having a bad game, if this
2:00:33
Speaker 3: team is not deep enough, if this team is too
2:00:35
Speaker 3: dependent on bringing in a guy like that, you can't
2:00:39
Speaker 3: move him down a line or you can't survive. And
2:00:42
Speaker 3: obviously you didn't end up winning the game. He turned
2:00:45
Speaker 3: over the puck that led to the I think it
2:00:46
Speaker 3: was the second Vegas goal that so it had a
2:00:50
Speaker 3: big outcome on the game. But like, I think you're
2:00:54
Speaker 3: in a good situation when you can say a player
2:00:57
Speaker 3: of that caliber we can actually afford to in playoff hockey,
2:01:02
Speaker 3: not play for several minutes or not playing overtime, or
2:01:05
Speaker 3: we're gonna bump him down tonight.
2:01:06
Speaker 2: We're gonna work through this with him.
2:01:08
Speaker 3: I think it really says a lot about how well
2:01:10
Speaker 3: this roster has been constructed around the potential star players.
2:01:14
Speaker 2: And he is a potential star player.
2:01:17
Speaker 13: One hundred and the great thing about JJ, oh see
2:01:22
Speaker 13: is he can be the reason you give up a goal.
2:01:26
Speaker 13: You can be like, where in the heck is JJ?
2:01:31
Speaker 13: And and then all of a sudden he pops in
2:01:32
Speaker 13: two in four minutes.
2:01:33
Speaker 2: Yea, So we'll see. I mean it's.
2:01:37
Speaker 13: Uh, Bears a great Bear's a great communicator.
2:01:41
Speaker 2: And he said they had a they had a talk,
2:01:44
Speaker 2: but they said we're gonna talk and we'll keep that talk.
2:01:47
Speaker 13: Between Yeah, you can imagine though, third period and overtime,
2:01:52
Speaker 13: sitting on that bench and Bear isn't calling for JJ.
2:01:55
Speaker 13: How that how that feels you came like, just think
2:01:59
Speaker 13: of that.
2:02:00
Speaker 2: That's a motivator. Yeah, speaking of Colin for jjre colling
2:02:03
Speaker 2: for anyone.
2:02:05
Speaker 3: Last time we were talking, I was like, what's the
2:02:07
Speaker 3: atmosphere going to be like at the Delta Center. And
2:02:10
Speaker 3: now that we've seen it, you've felt it. We've been
2:02:13
Speaker 3: in that building, the players, the national broadcast, the radio broadcast,
2:02:18
Speaker 3: the local TV broadcast.
2:02:21
Speaker 2: I have not heard one pundit go more than three.
2:02:26
Speaker 3: Minutes talking about this series without mentioning how crazy that
2:02:30
Speaker 3: building is. It's like the old playoff jazz energy that
2:02:34
Speaker 3: is no longer there for the basketball has just transplanted
2:02:37
Speaker 3: itself to Utah Mammoth Hockey.
2:02:40
Speaker 2: I think Monday night was a step up from Friday.
2:02:43
Speaker 2: Really too. Tell me that I couldn't go on Monday. Yeah,
2:02:47
Speaker 2: I feel like it.
2:02:49
Speaker 13: And maybe the funnest part for me on Monday, you've
2:02:52
Speaker 13: seen like that big, huge mammoth parachute that they drape
2:02:55
Speaker 13: across sections.
2:02:57
Speaker 2: We got it in our section, and I got it.
2:02:59
Speaker 2: I got it.
2:03:00
Speaker 13: The parachute up and down and go nuts at the
2:03:03
Speaker 13: start of overtime. H yeah, I mean you hear Steve
2:03:09
Speaker 13: Levy and he said he texted Mike Breen right like,
2:03:14
Speaker 13: I think this is louder than the finals.
2:03:17
Speaker 2: But what a scene.
2:03:19
Speaker 13: And yeah, I think that this game five. Yeah, this
2:03:24
Speaker 13: is why you have me on and that's why Valley
2:03:27
Speaker 13: Plumbing once all in and all that stuff. But Aladdin
2:03:29
Speaker 13: Industries about eighty percent of the teams that win game five,
2:03:33
Speaker 13: win the series. But you know, I was talking with
2:03:36
Speaker 13: bryceon Bianucci at lunch about an hour ago from our
2:03:39
Speaker 13: sister station, ESPN the Fan, and they're they're asking about
2:03:42
Speaker 13: momentum caring from one game to the next, and my
2:03:44
Speaker 13: feeling on that is Game four, team had a three
2:03:47
Speaker 13: to nothing lead, another team took a four to three lead,
2:03:49
Speaker 13: it was five to four and overtime. Nothing comes from that.
2:03:51
Speaker 13: You move on to Game five. But game five, you
2:03:55
Speaker 13: win Game five, you're coming home to win Game six,
2:04:00
Speaker 13: then we can take it. Can you come on Friday night?
2:04:02
Speaker 13: Can can we make you part of that?
2:04:04
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna be in South Dakota Collins. That's right,
2:04:08
Speaker 2: that's right.
2:04:09
Speaker 8: That's right.
2:04:09
Speaker 13: Brutal, All right, well, yeah, I think I think the
2:04:12
Speaker 13: game five though, if you come out and you don't
2:04:15
Speaker 13: fall behind three nothing in the first period, because they
2:04:19
Speaker 13: came out and had another good, strong first five minutes,
2:04:21
Speaker 13: and Bear said, we need better starts, obviously. If you
2:04:24
Speaker 13: can come out and not fall behind three nothing, that's
2:04:28
Speaker 13: that's that's my biggest thing.
2:04:30
Speaker 2: Of why you don't win tonight. If you you.
2:04:33
Speaker 13: Can win Game five and you're coming back to the
2:04:35
Speaker 13: Delta Center, to win a game six and move on
2:04:37
Speaker 13: to to round two.
2:04:38
Speaker 3: Okay, what is that the slow start thing? We talked
2:04:42
Speaker 3: about this with Utah football in the past. We've talked
2:04:44
Speaker 3: about this with the Jazz. This was actually a thing
2:04:47
Speaker 3: in my own fight career where you come out of
2:04:50
Speaker 3: the locker room, you feel like you're Jazz, You're ready
2:04:52
Speaker 3: to go, and then you get your ass kicked in
2:04:54
Speaker 3: round one and you got to bounce back. What is
2:04:58
Speaker 3: contributing to that for the Utah man Because it feels like,
2:05:02
Speaker 3: I mean, in the last three games especially, it's been
2:05:05
Speaker 3: like you get six minutes in and Vegas will have
2:05:09
Speaker 3: a goal and it'll be like they've got seven shots,
2:05:12
Speaker 3: Utah's got one or got none.
2:05:14
Speaker 2: What's what the slow starts.
2:05:15
Speaker 13: The most bizarre thing about it is if you look
2:05:20
Speaker 13: at the last two seasons in the regular season, Utah
2:05:24
Speaker 13: is the best team in the NHL in the first
2:05:26
Speaker 13: five minutes, in the first ten minutes of the game,
2:05:28
Speaker 13: in terms of shot differential, in terms of gold differential.
2:05:32
Speaker 13: And as I started off our segment today talking about
2:05:36
Speaker 13: there's no fear, there's no sign of you know, playing
2:05:41
Speaker 13: in the playoffs for the first time and learning lessons
2:05:43
Speaker 13: you haven't seen glaring stuff like that.
2:05:46
Speaker 2: Vegas has started.
2:05:48
Speaker 13: Great and you look at the regular seasons, that has
2:05:52
Speaker 13: been the least of Utah's concerns. They nobody's been better
2:05:55
Speaker 13: in the NHL of coming out in the first five minutes,
2:05:58
Speaker 13: in the first ten minutes to.
2:06:00
Speaker 2: Starting a game.
2:06:01
Speaker 13: I guess you could say Friday night, maybe some jitters,
2:06:04
Speaker 13: maybe some adrenaline. Monday it hurt them because they scored
2:06:08
Speaker 13: seventy two seconds in the game. So maybe being on
2:06:13
Speaker 13: the road, maybe that's where you can telt that, maybe
2:06:18
Speaker 13: you can pull that back in your side, because oc
2:06:23
Speaker 13: your first period shot totals in the last three games six,
2:06:26
Speaker 13: six and three is not a high percentage situation to
2:06:32
Speaker 13: get the game off to a good start, and chances
2:06:37
Speaker 13: are if you fall behind three nothing again, you're not
2:06:39
Speaker 13: gonna have a comeback on the road.
2:06:40
Speaker 2: All right.
2:06:41
Speaker 3: The Utah hockey community, in the Utah sports community, has
2:06:45
Speaker 3: really embraced Mammoth hockey. It's one of the most exciting
2:06:48
Speaker 3: things that's happened in my lifetime covering sports in the
2:06:51
Speaker 3: state of Utah and being a resident of the state
2:06:54
Speaker 3: of Utah.
2:06:55
Speaker 2: It's absolutely incredible.
2:06:56
Speaker 3: These players being embraced by the community, them embracing the
2:06:59
Speaker 3: commu unity. We got to make sure we're calling them
2:07:02
Speaker 3: the right names. The right nicknames is yeah, okay. And
2:07:06
Speaker 3: you're on the broadcast and you're on Mammoth Daily, so
2:07:09
Speaker 3: you're a you're a thought shaper, Okay, you're a trend
2:07:13
Speaker 3: setter when it comes to this kind of stuff.
2:07:15
Speaker 4: So James, James, are you prepared. Oh I'm I'm more
2:07:20
Speaker 4: than prepared.
2:07:21
Speaker 2: Okay, we've been waiting on this. Yeah, telling you so game,
2:07:26
Speaker 2: I got some ideas.
2:07:28
Speaker 4: So let me just tell the little backstory why why
2:07:31
Speaker 4: I started compiling this list. So I'm sitting in the
2:07:34
Speaker 4: media section when they have us in the corners of
2:07:39
Speaker 4: the of the building. I'm in one of those corners there,
2:07:42
Speaker 4: and one of the one of film media members was like,
2:07:47
Speaker 4: I saw someone wearing something that said you're killing me Schmaltz,
2:07:50
Speaker 4: and I went, oh, that's great, And I'm like, wait,
2:07:53
Speaker 4: I can do that for most of the other players too,
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Speaker 4: So let me let me give you I'll start with
2:07:59
Speaker 4: the Captain and Adrian Denny. How do you like the
2:08:03
Speaker 4: Zodiac Keller?
2:08:05
Speaker 2: I like it. I like it.
2:08:07
Speaker 13: I like it, James, because you've seen you've seen his eyes,
2:08:12
Speaker 13: you know, when he's possessing a puck when he's talking
2:08:17
Speaker 13: to the media and he'd rather go do some work
2:08:20
Speaker 13: to help to focus on his game and his uh
2:08:26
Speaker 13: mental well being.
2:08:27
Speaker 2: Right, So I like that.
2:08:29
Speaker 3: I got one for you with Keller James Okay, natural
2:08:34
Speaker 3: born Keller, natural born natural born Keller. Or if he's
2:08:40
Speaker 3: having really bad stretch, we can just call him Helen.
2:08:44
Speaker 13: Oh Clayton more like Helen oh Man.
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Speaker 2: We won't do that to you.
2:08:53
Speaker 4: Okay. So this one, this one's one that I'm I'm
2:08:56
Speaker 4: gonna I'm gonna ask you guys for your feedback on
2:08:59
Speaker 4: this because this one I'm not as I'm not as
2:09:01
Speaker 4: I'm not sure I love it as much.
2:09:03
Speaker 2: But the one we're gonna start getting wild yas they're
2:09:06
Speaker 2: gonna start this one.
2:09:07
Speaker 4: This one's kind of wild. So you've heard of you know,
2:09:10
Speaker 4: they're they're they're a sponsor every I think it's twice
2:09:13
Speaker 4: a year. They have the Rocky Mountain Gun Show, right,
2:09:16
Speaker 4: shout out to those guys. How about the Wasatch Mountain
2:09:19
Speaker 4: Gun Show. I can't get behind to gunther.
2:09:24
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't get behind that one.
2:09:27
Speaker 4: It's a little list.
2:09:27
Speaker 2: What what else do you got James.
2:09:29
Speaker 4: That's what I got for That's that's that's the only one.
2:09:32
Speaker 4: I'm like, that's the only the only thing I could
2:09:34
Speaker 4: think of for gun.
2:09:35
Speaker 3: The Gunter I have found is actually a really really
2:09:38
Speaker 3: difficult name to do, like a play on words with.
2:09:42
Speaker 2: What what about Rocky Mountain Gunner show?
2:09:45
Speaker 13: Okay, I think, yeah, I think I think we could
2:09:48
Speaker 13: go with that.
2:09:49
Speaker 2: That's what that's what Bear calls him, right, Gunner Gunner?
2:09:52
Speaker 4: Okay, I did not. I didn't realize he went by
2:09:54
Speaker 4: Gunner with at least the coach there, so that that's
2:09:57
Speaker 4: much better. See, I put a question.
2:10:00
Speaker 2: Because of that one.
2:10:01
Speaker 3: I gets lost because people can't quite decide if it's
2:10:03
Speaker 3: a Bear's accent where he's just like leaving.
2:10:06
Speaker 2: The just going like gunner, but I think he deliberately
2:10:09
Speaker 2: is it is Gutner? Yep? Yeah?
2:10:11
Speaker 4: All right? Now for Logan Cooley, this is another one
2:10:14
Speaker 4: that I'm not sure about. But I'm thinking like ice
2:10:17
Speaker 4: Cooler because he's he's clutched right ice like clutch or
2:10:21
Speaker 4: we could go little Giants and just call him the
2:10:23
Speaker 4: ice box.
2:10:25
Speaker 2: I like Icebox. What about what about Coolie? Then the
2:10:29
Speaker 2: other side of the pillow, get it? Get it. We
2:10:34
Speaker 2: got to shorten it somehow.
2:10:36
Speaker 4: Uh, Krause sour Krause.
2:10:41
Speaker 2: This one's good. I like Sauer Krause sower Krause.
2:10:45
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's that's all right, Nerman october Fest, folks, Now, this.
2:10:50
Speaker 3: One about krousfireuse crossfire, but crowdsfire or house fire, krousfire.
2:10:56
Speaker 4: Crousefire you think of that.
2:10:59
Speaker 2: Maybe he's red Redhead too, red Beard at least?
2:11:03
Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay, but Kilchev this one I really like. But
2:11:09
Speaker 4: I just know o C he's gonna hate it. Serga
2:11:12
Speaker 4: Chevy like a rock.
2:11:15
Speaker 3: It's too much, and I don't know, it's just brand
2:11:19
Speaker 3: associated and he's Russian.
2:11:21
Speaker 2: They don't drive Chevys in Russia.
2:11:23
Speaker 4: Okay, how about or just how about just Chase like
2:11:27
Speaker 4: Chevy Chase.
2:11:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not on board with that, mostly because I
2:11:35
Speaker 3: keep hearing all these like anecdotal stories about how Chevy
2:11:37
Speaker 3: Chase's actually like, yeah, the worst celebrities out there.
2:11:40
Speaker 4: That's true.
2:11:41
Speaker 2: He's really awful to people.
2:11:42
Speaker 4: Apparently, maybe fifteen years ago that would have been a
2:11:45
Speaker 4: better one. Okay, Okay, Now I think you told us
2:11:49
Speaker 4: Adrian that the jjson for JJ purkis stands for John Jason.
2:11:55
Speaker 2: Correct.
2:11:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, so John Jason jingleheimerschmid it, but you got a
2:12:02
Speaker 4: guy named too, Yeah, that's and then or you could
2:12:07
Speaker 4: just say is it for both of them? You could
2:12:09
Speaker 4: just say his name is my name? That's it.
2:12:12
Speaker 2: That's right.
2:12:14
Speaker 4: And then the Jack mcpaine, Yes.
2:12:20
Speaker 2: I'm what about McBaine of your existence?
2:12:25
Speaker 3: Like that's something you can use on a broadcast adres
2:12:29
Speaker 3: like the.
2:12:30
Speaker 2: Bane of the Las Vegas.
2:12:32
Speaker 13: That sounds like something Mike would say, you know, after
2:12:34
Speaker 13: a big hit.
2:12:36
Speaker 2: All right.
2:12:36
Speaker 4: And then the last one I've come up with is
2:12:39
Speaker 4: for Yamamoto Yamaha aka the piano man. Oh yeah, tickling
2:12:47
Speaker 4: the ivory.
2:12:48
Speaker 2: I like that, James, Uh, can I give you one
2:12:51
Speaker 2: for Schmaltz?
2:12:53
Speaker 3: Can you call him Schmaltz pox one time? You know,
2:12:57
Speaker 3: it's like smallpox. It's a deadly disease.
2:13:00
Speaker 4: Killing the other team Schmaltz pox.
2:13:03
Speaker 2: They're dying to Schmaltz pox out there. Can we get
2:13:06
Speaker 2: that in there? That's that's Yeah.
2:13:09
Speaker 13: Might be a little edgy for Hockey Night in Utah,
2:13:11
Speaker 13: but uh, all they can do is say, don't do
2:13:14
Speaker 13: that again.
2:13:16
Speaker 3: Uh spray tannaf How did I not come up with
2:13:21
Speaker 3: that one? Here's what I'm reading, Okay, Adrian Danny is
2:13:25
Speaker 3: a great sport and he's right here in front of me, James,
2:13:28
Speaker 3: he doesn't like any of these.
2:13:30
Speaker 2: I think there.
2:13:31
Speaker 3: I think there's body language and like he's not gonna
2:13:34
Speaker 3: use any of these on Fronas.
2:13:36
Speaker 2: It's never gonna happen.
2:13:37
Speaker 4: I don't know.
2:13:38
Speaker 2: We've struck out here.
2:13:39
Speaker 4: I saw him in person when I gave him Zodiac Killer,
2:13:43
Speaker 4: and I I believe you're going to use that one.
2:13:46
Speaker 3: Okay, it I think uh, I think sauer Krauss has
2:13:51
Speaker 3: a has a chance.
2:13:52
Speaker 2: I think McBain of your existence has a chance. Can
2:13:55
Speaker 2: you email me these? James absolutely put a little more
2:14:00
Speaker 2: preparation into it. I love it.
2:14:03
Speaker 4: I'll I'll erase the ones for effort, though a for effort,
2:14:08
Speaker 4: I'll take out Sergas Chevy. Don't worry about that. No
2:14:11
Speaker 4: guns show. We're gonna Gunner is what we landed on there.
2:14:16
Speaker 2: Eight zero seven hundred.
2:14:19
Speaker 3: If you want to submit any ideas, our whole goal
2:14:22
Speaker 3: now is to get something into the radio broadcast.
2:14:27
Speaker 2: With a you know the starting point of that nickname
2:14:30
Speaker 2: being right here on the Shottle Connor Show. We'll do
2:14:32
Speaker 2: our best. Yeah, No, I'm all in I'm all in.
2:14:35
Speaker 3: Well before we let you go, do the Mammoth win tonight?
2:14:40
Speaker 3: And if so, how does that look?
2:14:44
Speaker 13: My key for the Mammoth tonight that's different from the
2:14:50
Speaker 13: last three games is kind of what we talked about
2:14:55
Speaker 13: in terms of don't fall behind three nothink, but can
2:14:58
Speaker 13: you come out? Can can you establish the tone with
2:15:01
Speaker 13: ten first period shots? I would feel good about the
2:15:07
Speaker 13: trajectory of the game if we don't start pinned in
2:15:12
Speaker 13: to our own zone for the first five to ten minutes.
2:15:15
Speaker 13: Can can you have even or more shots than Vegas
2:15:20
Speaker 13: in the first period? And it hasn't mattered. And we
2:15:22
Speaker 13: talked about how opportunistic Utah's bed, but I would feel
2:15:27
Speaker 13: I would feel that you're in a better situation to
2:15:29
Speaker 13: win if you can come out in the first period
2:15:31
Speaker 13: and kind of dictate the tone. Maybe you get a
2:15:34
Speaker 13: goal in the first five ten minutes and take it
2:15:36
Speaker 13: from there.
2:15:37
Speaker 8: Like Friday Night.
2:15:39
Speaker 3: Mammoth Golden Knights Tonight game five. The series, as you know,
2:15:44
Speaker 3: is tied up to two, a crucial and like Adrian
2:15:49
Speaker 3: just said, most of the time it's like an eighty
2:15:51
Speaker 3: percent ready to be in a kind of a decider.
2:15:53
Speaker 2: If you can win Game five.
2:15:54
Speaker 13: For the rest of you win game five, you're winning
2:15:56
Speaker 13: Game six. We're not going back to Vegas on Sunday.
2:15:59
Speaker 13: We get the weekend off.
2:16:01
Speaker 3: I love that idea. Any other surprises around the league
2:16:06
Speaker 3: for you. The Oilers on the brink with Connor McDavid suffering.
2:16:13
Speaker 13: They were, and now they're a win away from being
2:16:17
Speaker 13: three to three and going back home for a game
2:16:19
Speaker 13: seven's It seems like that's Edmonton every series.
2:16:25
Speaker 2: Every year they.
2:16:27
Speaker 13: Fall behind and then all of a sudden they're back.
2:16:31
Speaker 13: And I'll tell you this, So see, it looked like
2:16:33
Speaker 13: they were done for good when Anaheim went up three
2:16:37
Speaker 13: games to one. Gosh, it looks like Minnesota is probably
2:16:42
Speaker 13: in a pretty good spot to take care of Dallas
2:16:45
Speaker 13: there at home for game six. The Montreal Tampa Bay series,
2:16:49
Speaker 13: They've got a game five Sunday. In Game four, the
2:16:52
Speaker 13: only game in that series that did not go into overtime.
2:16:56
Speaker 13: So that series is has been It has been pretty crazy.
2:17:02
Speaker 13: Oh see, can Pittsburgh erase a three to zero deficit
2:17:05
Speaker 13: and win the series four games to three? It all started,
2:17:08
Speaker 13: it sounded like they're down three to oh they practice Friday,
2:17:11
Speaker 13: Sidney Crosby gets hit in the back of the head
2:17:13
Speaker 13: with the puck and it sounded like it just kind
2:17:15
Speaker 13: of light in the mood from that point on. Wow, Yeah,
2:17:18
Speaker 13: they got some laughs. Funny stuff can can change momentum.
2:17:23
Speaker 2: Hockey guys are weird man in the best way. It's awesome.
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Speaker 2: Man. Shout out to all.
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Speaker 3: Of you who decided to stay and listen to the
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Speaker 3: show today. Despite me sounding like this, the the NCAA
2:19:54
Speaker 3: Tournament at sixty eight teams, especially with the changes with
2:20:00
Speaker 3: transfer rules at il all that stuff we talked about
2:20:05
Speaker 3: it this year, like the last year and the year before,
2:20:09
Speaker 3: the sort of erosion of the long standing tradition of
2:20:14
Speaker 3: Cinderella stories and great stuff to follow unexpected victories. Some
2:20:22
Speaker 3: of the most appealing things about the tournament had become
2:20:25
Speaker 3: a thing in the past for the casual fan. If
2:20:28
Speaker 3: you're a hardcore college basketball fan, you're gonna watch and
2:20:31
Speaker 3: you actually want to see Duke versus Kansas more than
2:20:34
Speaker 3: you want to see Wayne State versus Duke. But it's
2:20:41
Speaker 3: a strange thing to see the changes administrative changes taking
2:20:47
Speaker 3: place that affect the product on the court and take
2:20:52
Speaker 3: away some of those things that we love so much
2:20:54
Speaker 3: about March Madness. And yet, and still, even as I
2:20:57
Speaker 3: think the March Madness product is for the average man
2:21:01
Speaker 3: and woman, probably less appealing, but still just disappealing for
2:21:04
Speaker 3: the hardcore college sports fan, maybe less appealing even for
2:21:09
Speaker 3: the better for the wagerer, I'm not sure. I don't
2:21:14
Speaker 3: have to ask Brendan Soresby about that one.
2:21:18
Speaker 2: But seventy six teams.
2:21:20
Speaker 3: The NCAA is going to expand the March Madness Tournament
2:21:25
Speaker 3: to seventy six teams. I don't know why they feel
2:21:32
Speaker 3: this is necessary.
2:21:33
Speaker 2: I don't know.
2:21:36
Speaker 3: The right way as a sports talk radio guy to
2:21:39
Speaker 3: just bring you my hot take.
2:21:41
Speaker 2: That it's just dumb. It's like the only answer. The
2:21:45
Speaker 2: only thing here.
2:21:48
Speaker 3: Is that we have allowed the pursuit of money, the
2:21:52
Speaker 3: pursuit of revenue, to make every decision. Now in sports,
2:21:58
Speaker 3: you don't need this, you don't want this. You're diluting
2:22:01
Speaker 3: the product.
2:22:04
Speaker 2: This is not like.
2:22:07
Speaker 3: The college football Playoff expanding, even although that is very
2:22:10
Speaker 3: revenue driven, where it was pretty important to make sure
2:22:14
Speaker 3: that the whole country stays engaged, that you're not leaving
2:22:17
Speaker 3: entire swaths of geography, entire regions out of your playoff picture.
2:22:22
Speaker 3: That was just as big of a reason to expand
2:22:24
Speaker 3: the college football Playoff as anything else.
2:22:26
Speaker 2: That's not what this is. Sixty eight teams is more
2:22:28
Speaker 2: than enough.
2:22:29
Speaker 3: Sixty eight teams is coast to coast, northern border to
2:22:32
Speaker 3: southern border, everything in between. There's a regional element to
2:22:36
Speaker 3: all of it. You don't need seventy six for that.
2:22:41
Speaker 3: Seventy six is a cash grap Seventy six is more
2:22:44
Speaker 3: commercial inventory. Seventy six is more broadcast to sell to
2:22:49
Speaker 3: television partners. Let's get True TV and Apple, and let's
2:22:53
Speaker 3: get Netflix, and let's get Amazon Prime and let's get
2:22:57
Speaker 3: the first four.
2:22:58
Speaker 2: I mean, the product.
2:23:05
Speaker 3: Doesn't need to grow, does it need to be expanded
2:23:09
Speaker 3: from an actual size of the field standpoint, And yet
2:23:13
Speaker 3: that decision is hurtling towards us because of what because
2:23:18
Speaker 3: of the desire to.
2:23:19
Speaker 2: Make more money.
2:23:21
Speaker 3: And if it was more money that was going to
2:23:23
Speaker 3: benefit Cinderella, if it was more money that was going
2:23:26
Speaker 3: to make it so that weaber State in southern Utah
2:23:31
Speaker 3: and Utah State made deeper runs, I would probably be
2:23:34
Speaker 3: all for it. But that extra field is going to
2:23:39
Speaker 3: be populated with now the eleventh best team in the
2:23:43
Speaker 3: Big twelve and the eleventh best team in the Big
2:23:46
Speaker 3: ten and the eleventh best team in the SEC. Whereas
2:23:52
Speaker 3: it was like, hey, before you get only your top
2:23:54
Speaker 3: ten are going to get in. Guys, you got twelve
2:23:57
Speaker 3: in this year, but next year it's going to be
2:23:58
Speaker 3: back down to eight. This is the Power Conferences This
2:24:03
Speaker 3: is the rich getting richer in every sense of the word.
2:24:06
Speaker 3: Power conferences benefiting from this, broadcasters benefiting from this.
2:24:13
Speaker 2: And uh, if there's a way that you.
2:24:16
Speaker 3: Could distribute the funds to make the expanded field more
2:24:22
Speaker 3: friendly to Cinderella and bring Cinderella back, I'd probably have
2:24:29
Speaker 3: a different evaluation of it. But seventy six teams, you're
2:24:34
Speaker 3: gonna have to spend an extra two minutes filling out
2:24:36
Speaker 3: your bracket, and we're gonna have to talk about the
2:24:41
Speaker 3: the first four out. That's now teams seventy seven, seventy eight, seventy.
2:24:47
Speaker 2: Nine, and eighty.
2:24:49
Speaker 3: That's gonna be the first four out in college basketball.
2:24:53
Speaker 3: Who's the eightieth best team.
2:24:55
Speaker 2: In college basketball?
2:24:58
Speaker 3: Imagine being a bracket to and now you have to
2:25:01
Speaker 3: expand your You have to expand your interest that much more.
2:25:06
Speaker 4: Imagine caring, right, Imagine caring who the seventy sixth best
2:25:11
Speaker 4: team in the country is. Imagine having to care who
2:25:13
Speaker 4: the seventy ninth best like? Who cares? I will say
2:25:17
Speaker 4: this so soon.
2:25:18
Speaker 2: It was already enough when it was team number seventy two.
2:25:21
Speaker 2: That was already too much.
2:25:23
Speaker 4: I've heard this justification for expanding the field beyond what
2:25:27
Speaker 4: you're talking about, which, of course, the powers that be
2:25:30
Speaker 4: are not going to say we're just trying to make
2:25:31
Speaker 4: more money. They're not going to say that publicly, even
2:25:34
Speaker 4: though that's probably that's probably why they're doing it. But
2:25:38
Speaker 4: I've heard this is a motivation for expansion that I
2:25:40
Speaker 4: still don't think is necessary. When they expanded from sixty
2:25:47
Speaker 4: four to sixty eight teams, there was three hundred and
2:25:50
Speaker 4: thirty five Division I basketball programs, which was about which
2:25:55
Speaker 4: meant that sixty eight teams making the tournament would be
2:25:58
Speaker 4: twenty percent. Now there's that number has grown to three
2:26:03
Speaker 4: hundred and sixty one this year, so sixty eight teams
2:26:06
Speaker 4: is under twenty percent. It's like eighteen nineteen percent. So
2:26:10
Speaker 4: seventy six brings it back to twenty percent of teams
2:26:14
Speaker 4: are in the tournament. So I've heard that justification. For
2:26:17
Speaker 4: whatever reason, they like that twenty percent number.
2:26:21
Speaker 2: I'm glad that math works out well for them.
2:26:23
Speaker 3: I'm glad it does so twenty percent of the field,
2:26:28
Speaker 3: or twenty percent of all of college basketball back when
2:26:31
Speaker 3: it was sixty eight teams, and now that the Division
2:26:34
Speaker 3: IE ranks have swelled, while that number has grown, the
2:26:39
Speaker 3: number of teams that have a real chance of winning
2:26:43
Speaker 3: tournament games has.
2:26:44
Speaker 2: Shrunk, So.
2:26:47
Speaker 3: The twenty percent that used to populate that tournament are
2:26:52
Speaker 3: now seventeen or eighteen percent, but only ten percent.
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Speaker 2: Of those teams can realistically win a game.
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Speaker 3: So out on this I don't need an expanded field.
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Speaker 3: All right, We're gonna give away some Red West Music
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Speaker 3: Festival tickets next, about two two day passes.
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Speaker 4: Oh see, how about always hayten Barrett Hayden.
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Speaker 2: Oh that's good. Why he always heightened?
2:27:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, well he always say did you see Derek? The
2:27:20
Speaker 4: mailman texted said, when did James morphin to Todd? Fritz?
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Speaker 4: I take that as a compliment.
2:27:26
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, Fritz, he's got a pretty successful career.
2:27:29
Speaker 4: That's a that's thank you, dere Mailman.
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Speaker 3: The Red West Festival comes to the Utah State Fair
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Speaker 3: Park October sixteenth and seventeenth.
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Speaker 2: I'll give away if Paara passes.
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Speaker 3: Next, it's the Sean O'Connor Show wrapping up here at
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Speaker 3: Layton Hills Mall. We'll also talk to Brett one more
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Speaker 3: time on ESPN seven.
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Speaker 8: Sean O'Connell show.
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Speaker 1: You were home of the besting side up your use.
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Speaker 1: Let's get back to from the murderch Chevrolet Studio of
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Speaker 1: ESPN seven hundred ninety two one, Am.
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Speaker 7: All right?
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Speaker 3: I got a pair of Red West Festival tickets to
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Speaker 3: give away. They're coming to the Utah State Fair Park
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Speaker 3: October sixteenth and seventeenth. Eight seven seven three five three
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Speaker 3: zero seven hundred. Who is currently the Las Vegas Golden
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Speaker 3: Knights leading scorer for the season.
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Speaker 2: Eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred.
2:28:31
Speaker 3: Who has scored the most goals for the Las Vegas
2:28:35
Speaker 3: Golden Knights this year? Utah Mammoth in action down in
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Speaker 3: Vegas tonight, Game five, the series tied up two to two.
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Speaker 3: A pair of Red West Festival passes. If you know
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Speaker 3: the answer to the Hated Enemy trivia question, who is
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Speaker 3: the best scorer on.
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Speaker 2: That Golden Knights team.
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Speaker 3: We're up here at the Paris RV blowout sale at
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Speaker 3: Leyton Hills Mall, northwest corner of the parking lot.
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Speaker 2: You've got, I mean, it looks.
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Speaker 3: Like hundreds, Brett's here with how many are sitting here?
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Speaker 3: I know you've got backstock on other lots. How many
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Speaker 3: are here in the parking lot today?
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Speaker 7: You know, I didn't actually count them, but I would
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Speaker 7: say about seventy okay, yeah, something like that.
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Speaker 3: And it's motor homes, it's fifth wheels, it's tense trailers,
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Speaker 3: it's Class A, it's Class C. It's a wide selection
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Speaker 3: at every single price point, and these things are in
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Speaker 3: impeccable condition. You guys do a great job of making
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Speaker 3: sure that even the used RVs are.
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Speaker 2: Ready to go.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, we get them, we bring them in, we run
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Speaker 7: them through our OURPDI process. You know, we make sure
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Speaker 7: that they're great for the next owner of the next family.
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Speaker 7: We you know, we make sure the fridge, furn us, electrical, water, propane,
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Speaker 7: all works, generator, everything's good to go. You know that
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Speaker 7: rams on the toy haulers are good. I mean, everything
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Speaker 7: is tip top shape. If it's not, we just get
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Speaker 7: rid of it another way, like take it to the
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Speaker 7: auction or something.
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Speaker 6: You know.
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Speaker 7: So these are all premium RVs, and I would say
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Speaker 7: that the bulk of them are going to be forty
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Speaker 7: percent or or off the price of a new one.
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Speaker 7: And many of them can't even tell the difference.
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Speaker 3: I mean I walked through several of them and you
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Speaker 3: really couldn't tell the difference. And even you, who this
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Speaker 3: is your life, you're an RV expert, and you've got
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Speaker 3: a couple you said, I don't.
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Speaker 7: Know us yeah, or if they did, Yeah, yeah, some
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Speaker 7: of them are sometimes. I just it amazes me when
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Speaker 7: the when the rapper is still on them, you know,
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Speaker 7: and there's a couple of them like that. I mean
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Speaker 7: the majority of them aren't, but there's a couple of
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Speaker 7: them that are like that.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 6: It's like I would have pulled.
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Speaker 7: The film off the off the front of the microwaiver
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Speaker 7: off the TV by now you know?
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Speaker 2: Okay, through Saturday.
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Speaker 3: Come up, tell Bret you heard about it on ESPN
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Speaker 3: seven hundred and uh maybe a little hookup.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, we'll give you a grand. You say you heard
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Speaker 7: it on ESPN, We'll give you a grand. We just
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Speaker 7: had a guy came in and say, hey, I heard
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Speaker 7: it on ESPN. I want to buy this one. Our
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Speaker 7: one of our sales team didn't even know that was
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Speaker 7: a thing. So I called me up and he goes, hey,
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Speaker 7: this is what this guy is saying.
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Speaker 6: Is that really truest it is? I said it we're
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Speaker 6: gonna do it.
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Speaker 7: So Yeah, anything you see, it could be the five
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Speaker 6: Take yourself a grand off. If you're a ESPN listener.
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Speaker 3: That's awesome. Make sure you take advantage of that deal.
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Speaker 3: Brett takes care of us, He takes care of our people.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for having us up here. It's always a great event.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks for having us and God Mammoth right, go Mammoth.
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Speaker 2: I think they win tonight, Yes.
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Speaker 3: Fingers crossed, I think they do, and then they close
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Speaker 3: it out of Friday. Brett will be there. Make sure
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Speaker 3: you're there as well. Stay tuned for the drive with
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