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- 0:00The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews. You need to start your
- 0:05day. You're listening to the West Carol Morning Show. Tuesday morning, thirteenth
- 0:12day of June. I'm wes, thanks for joining me. I need to
- 0:18get my friend Josh mccoon on the show. That's on my list of things
- 0:23to do. I'm realizing that this morning, as he has now been voted
- 0:29the new chair for the Georgia Republican Party. He assumes the leadership role after
- 0:36the convention over the weekend, and I'd intended. I thought, well,
- 0:40I saw that, and I thought I need to need to get Josh on
- 0:44the show. Interviewed him many times, talk to him over the years,
- 0:50and especially need to talk to him now. I saw the headline he shared
- 0:58this from the Atlanta Journey Constitution picture of Josh. I assume this is after
- 1:04he was announced as the winner, or maybe while he was at some point
- 1:07speaking over the weekend at the convention here in Columbus twenty twenty election Deniers to
- 1:15lead Georgia GOP as the headline, and Josh posted this on his social media
- 1:23account. I'm not going to go into too much about exactly what he said.
- 1:30It's very long, and it's very well thought out. He's a very
- 1:33smart guy, very articulate, and I need to get him on the show,
- 1:38give him an opportunity to talk through some of these things. But the
- 1:42gist of this is that they're throwing this very general accusation in the direction of
- 1:49everyone involved. Right next to his picture, by the way, so and
- 1:57he lays out some of the iculousness of what happened in twenty twenty when it
- 2:05comes to the way votes were counted, the way signatures weren't verified. But
- 2:14he concludes this really long statement, he makes a couple of great points that
- 2:19is similar to you know what I've been saying for quite some time. When
- 2:23we hear these terms like election denier, no one seems to bring up Hillary
- 2:30Clinton. No one seems to bring up Stacy Abrams. I've also pointed out
- 2:37nobody seems to bring up John Lewis. There's a number of people who just
- 2:42they seem to get a pass on the election denier thing. The White House
- 2:47Press Secretary Kreeen, John Pierre, another person who has made posts in the
- 2:53past. There's a lot of people who questioned elections in the past, denied
- 2:59the outcome. Stacy Abrams said that she won the governor's race in Georgia and
- 3:04that there were other people who told her that she won she should have won.
- 3:09And you know, Hillary Clinton doesn't think Donald Trump beat her in twenty
- 3:14sixteen. She was vocal about that. She basically told stories about how she
- 3:20wanted to fight longer and that it was Barack Obama who told her that she
- 3:24should not. And then she, I guess, told the Biden campaign that
- 3:30no matter the outcome, they should never accept the results. This is all,
- 3:36you know, stories that have been out for some time, someone who
- 3:39was planning setting up other people to be election deniers, I guess is the
- 3:45way that you would described that. But he pointed out that about Hillary Clinton
- 3:51and Stacy Abrams, and he talked about the importance at the beginning why a
- 3:57public trust in journalism is at an all time low because of this particular article
- 4:02that was written. And here is I think the real kicker, and this
- 4:08is a legal mind walking through exactly the way this is all laid out in
- 4:15this particular article from the Atlanta General Constitution and on the front page right there,
- 4:21top local story Georgia Republican Party. That's the way it's worded, and
- 4:26then the headline he says, so, just realize these headlines are written to
- 4:30try to prevent Republicans from being taken seriously by smart people who understand that they
- 4:38are deceiving you. And therein lies the discussion point. And then he immediately
- 4:45has some jackass that tries to go after him right away and challenge him and
- 4:51other things. But anyway, it's another it's another topic altogether. I don't
- 4:56know this particular person, but based on what this per and has written in
- 5:00this post, I just see jackass that again is following right in line,
- 5:06right in tow with what the Atlanta Journal Constitution is doing with this particular headline
- 5:13in this particular article. But I think that you have a great point coming
- 5:20from coming from Josh when he says this, these are headlines written to try
- 5:30to prevent Republicans from being taken seriously by smart people who understand that they are
- 5:35deceiving you. This is something we've talked about on the show for a long
- 5:42time, for years years, going back to the radio show. Here on
- 5:46this show, you've heard me talk a similar language. Josh does a great
- 5:51job of summing it up there, and it's the reality of they're either smart
- 6:00who understand they're deceiving you, or they're ridiculously foolish and that they're believing their
- 6:06own lies. And sometimes it's hard to know the difference. This is a
- 6:13perfect example, though, This particular article about the Georgia GOP in this convention
- 6:20is not someone who's dumb and doesn't know better. It's very skillfully and artfully
- 6:26done, intentionally done, intended to be a type of propaganda, and it's
- 6:30intended to try to take the feed out from underneath the Georgia Republican Party after
- 6:38having a ridiculously successful convention here in Columbus. Talked about this yesterday. When
- 6:46you start talking about a record crowd for an event like this in Columbus at
- 6:50the Trade Center, when you start talking about the people that were visibly out
- 6:58in support of Donald Trump, doesn't matter what you think of Donald Trump.
- 7:01This is supposed to be the way that we approach things. It's not supposed
- 7:06to matter what you think of the political candidate. If you are a journalist
- 7:13and you see that there are people out lining the streets and I mean calling
- 7:19really the area where people were lined up along the airport to see Trump,
- 7:25I mean these are very busy roads, These are very busy streets, and
- 7:31people were lined up along the streets in folding chairs with flags, wearing red,
- 7:38white and blue, with the intentions of seeing the man, or being
- 7:42seen by the man. That was their hope. They wanted to show support
- 7:47for Donald Trump as he was coming into town and as he was departing town.
- 7:51They wanted to be a part of that. And as a journalist,
- 7:57your job is to report on that, not to report on what you think
- 8:01of Donald Trump. Your job is not to talk about, Oh, he
- 8:05was impeached twice, he was twice indicted. Those things don't mean anything.
- 8:13It doesn't mean anything to refer to Donald Trump as twice impeached, twice indicted,
- 8:18when the reason that he was twice impeached and twice indicted, it's really
- 8:24a mouthful to say. It is for the purposes of being able to say
- 8:30he was twice impeached and twice indicted. That's the whole reason for doing it.
- 8:37Impeaching him the first time was to hang that on his head, was
- 8:43to put that on him, to be able to say, well, we
- 8:46impeached him. No hope, no evidence to convict him, no possibility that
- 8:52he was going to be convicted in that impeachment. There was no way that
- 8:58that was going to happen. Took a long shot. Maybe they get a
- 9:01couple of those rogue Republicans to come over, and but it didn't happen.
- 9:05It wasn't ever going to happen. It was just a blind swing and you
- 9:11just see what happens, and it didn't happen. The second impeachment was solely
- 9:18for the purposes of saying, well, he's the only president to be impeached
- 9:24twice. That was the goal, that was the intention. It was about
- 9:28trying to create this particular line of thought, this line of speaking, this
- 9:39marketing for the Biden campaign moving forward, to be able to say, well,
- 9:43he was impeached twice. No president has ever done that before. That's
- 9:48never happened before, and now it's happened. And you had Nancy Pelosi laughing
- 9:54about it, about the fact that we will we impeached twice, didn't we.
- 10:01We promised you we would get him, We were going to get him,
- 10:03and we would do this, and we did. It wasn't about right
- 10:07and wrong. It was about being able to say, right now, at
- 10:11this point in time, that he has been twice impeached. It's for people
- 10:16like this person who commented on Josh's social media account and said that he's been
- 10:26twice impeached. He's been twice indicted. And we've talked about the indictments.
- 10:31We've talked about the fact that this has never happened before to a political opponent,
- 10:37not in America, not someone that is getting ready to likely be the
- 10:45Republican nominee for president, and the current administration's Justice Department has now placed two
- 10:54scarlet letters on him by saying he's now twice been indicted, now federal indictment,
- 11:01solely for the purposes of getting the campaign ads ready. I told you
- 11:05yesterday this is like the herschel Walker thing. Raphael Warnock was going to be
- 11:09taking on a Republican and Democrats wanted that Republican to be herschel Walker. They
- 11:16put a lot of money into making sure that a lot of the wrong and
- 11:20I'm using quotation marks, the wrong candidates got nominated by Republicans and a lot
- 11:24of races to try to prevent this red Way from happening. And some Republicans
- 11:30thought, man, if we can just get anybody that Trump has supported this
- 11:35is going to go well. And one of those people was herschel Walker.
- 11:39Democrats wanted him. They wanted it to be herschel Walker. They wanted that
- 11:45to be the candidate because they already had the campaign ads made. They were
- 11:48ready to go. They had the knives sharpened, they had the arrows in
- 11:54the quiver. They were ready to go. They knew what they were gonna
- 11:58say about herschel Walker. The ads were made, they knew what the strategy
- 12:03was going to be. They knew what they were going to have to do
- 12:05and what they wouldn't even have to bother doing. They didn't think he was
- 12:09going to come out and debate, and that happened, and when he had
- 12:15a pretty good debate, they attacked him for well, he brought out props.
- 12:20He wasn't supposed to bring out props. He brought out props. Look
- 12:22at him, he's got a toy badge. They wanted it to be herschel
- 12:28Walker. And this time they wanted to be Donald Trump. You know why,
- 12:31because they hadn't figured out a reason to impeach Rhonda Santis or indict Rhnda
- 12:37Santis yet if it was gonna be him, they would be nervous because they
- 12:41don't have that kind of ammunition ready to go against him. So that was
- 12:46the purpose of the impeachments, that was the purpose of the indictments. That's
- 12:54the sole reason they're getting that ready for campaign ads, because they're to do
- 13:00whatever they can to help make sure Trump gets across the finish line and then
- 13:05they can attack him. They'll be ready to go. And I don't know
- 13:07that this is now going to be the second time that this is what they
- 13:13want, and they didn't learn the first time. They look at the failure
- 13:16the first time as people didn't want to vote for Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton
- 13:22didn't campaign as well as you should have, but Biden, who didn't really
- 13:26campaign at all, just kind of got handed. The thing just kind of
- 13:30happened for him. And yes, there were still questions at the time the
- 13:35election was certified about some of the votes in Georgia, about some of the
- 13:37absentee ballots at a time when we were in the middle of a pandemic and
- 13:43it was record absentee ballots, and some of those signatures weren't verified or properly
- 13:48verified. And yes, there were people outside of the state of Georgia who
- 13:52haven't lived here for years that voted in this election. They didn't vote,
- 13:56but they voted in the election. I know one of them. I was
- 14:00contacted very soon after the election by someone who said, hey, I got
- 14:05a call asking me about why I voted in the county that I voted in,
- 14:09and I had to tell them I don't live in Georgia anymore. I
- 14:13didn't vote. So apparently that's an example a vote that they caught. I've
- 14:18told that story on the air, radio and here. But how many of
- 14:22those did they not catch? And who was casting votes on behalf of people
- 14:28who don't live in the state anymore? How many of those calls didn't get
- 14:31sorted out properly and make sure that the person didn't vote twice. By the
- 14:37way, this person I'm talking about, who lives in another state did vote
- 14:41for Trump, but in Georgia, someone else voted on their behalf in their
- 14:46name as an absentee ballot for Biden. So yes, thankfully that one was
- 14:52caught. How many weren't caught? There were questions was it enough to make
- 14:58a difference. We won't know because they didn't do all of the audits.
- 15:03They didn't do everything that they were going to do. There are questions,
- 15:07but we've all moved on. Right, the election was certified, everything went
- 15:11on, We've moved on. That's the way the process works. You move
- 15:15on. But to call everyone involved in all of that questioning it election deniers
- 15:22for asking questions and not acknowledged that Stacy Abram's point blank said, I really
- 15:30won the governor's race against Brian Kim. For Hillary Clinton to say the election
- 15:37was stolen from her, for all of the people who questioned whether or not
- 15:41George W. Bush should have won the state of Florida in that election.
- 15:50Some of you too young to even remember the hanging Chad fiasco, But yes,
- 15:56there were Democrats who you know. Lewis was one. He never acknowledged
- 16:00George W. Bush as the winner. He never did, didn't want to
- 16:06go to State of the unions, didn't want to attend inaugurations, refuse to
- 16:10accept he was the winner. Same with Trump. Didn't accept it, didn't
- 16:14want anything to do with it. So what did Georgia do when they tried
- 16:17to bring in different laws election laws in Georgia? They wanted to name them
- 16:22after John Lewis, who qualifies, by not their standards, as an election
- 16:27denier. Right, the very least should be acknowledged as one because he denied
- 16:33many elections. So some election deniers or looked at, I guess as honorable
- 16:40heroes. Some are looked at as despicable. Twenty twenty election deniers to lead
- 16:48Georgia Goop. That is the headline there. Looking forward to talking with Josh
- 16:52about this and about other things. I suspect maybe he's ready to put this
- 16:57kind of thing behind him and start looking forward to the future for the party
- 17:02and looking ahead to this election that's on the way. He's gotten past this
- 17:07one. And I know that this was something that Josh felt he was ready
- 17:14to serve in this role. And I'm excited for him in this role,
- 17:18and I know that the folks that voted for him are excited about him being
- 17:22there. But this is really He's right. This is a perfect example of
- 17:32why we need integrity in the media and why right now, when you see
- 17:36something like this, you realize that this is why faith in our journalism is
- 17:41at a all time low, and people just do not have any trust in
- 17:48what they're seeing and reading from journalists, and all journalists need to take a
- 17:55moment, even the people who wrote this article need to take some time and
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