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June 8, 2026 (Hour 2) · Zone 1150 - Chip Howard's SportsTalk

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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome in, glad to have you with us.
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  Speaker 2: It is a Monday. This portion of the program is
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  Speaker 2: brought to you by the Dollar Floor Store. Robert Cessna
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  Speaker 2: is here. Rusty Berson is here. You know, I had
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  Speaker 2: to say goodbye to Kirk Bowles Friday because it's the
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  Speaker 2: summer cease you're you're leaving, and because we don't have
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  Speaker 2: anything to talk about the rest of the summer, Rusty
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  Speaker 2: and I just kind of fake of which we do anyway,
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  Speaker 2: but that's kind of a thought.
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  Speaker 7: Plus, you lost that other guy. What was his name, Scoot.
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  Speaker 2: Scoot, Yes, Scott Scott. Yeah, he's gone. Yeah, he's he's gone.
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  Speaker 2: I just got to say hello last Tuesday. That was
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  Speaker 2: a really cool deal.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was very fun. I don't think I'm gonna make
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  Speaker 2: fifty nine years, but I mean, I'm tried, but I
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  Speaker 2: don't think I'm going to make fifty nine years.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, we talked about that before.
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  Speaker 2: We have you are, I know, we went to your
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  Speaker 2: fiftieth years year and a half ago. Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I was driving by the newspaper yesterday after I went
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  Speaker 8: to work out at Plant Fit and so me too,
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  Speaker 8: and so I was drive by the backside cause I
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  Speaker 8: needed to get a walk out. Look in the parking lot,
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  Speaker 8: there's like one car in there.
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  Speaker 2: See. Of course there wouldn't be a paper without him
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  Speaker 2: by the tape on, Yeah, tape on the hood.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know Scott like and I know his a
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  Speaker 7: lot said, but people just I took it from granted
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  Speaker 7: almost the first time. I going, Sure you met him early,
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  Speaker 7: and you know, you talk about a guy that's so
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  Speaker 7: even back then, so well connected to Brian College stays,
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  Speaker 7: knew what he was doing.
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  Speaker 2: His whole life is so unassuming. As far as I
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  Speaker 2: melt with you, Uh, Riley, that's okay. We need we
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  Speaker 2: need that, a little adapter that goes in there on
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  Speaker 2: the end. You see what we're saying right there, Go
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  Speaker 2: find go find one of those. You can yank it
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  Speaker 2: off a headphone in the news next door if you
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  Speaker 2: need too. Yeah, but as long as we remember to
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  Speaker 2: put it back.
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  Speaker 7: But then I go to a football game and he's announcing,
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  Speaker 7: and they go to a.
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  Speaker 2: Basketball Yeah, it's like he's everywhere.
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  Speaker 7: And back then we didn't know what Uber was. I
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  Speaker 7: would just said, hey, Scott, can I go with you
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  Speaker 7: to the game? You're going to cover consolidate anyway road
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  Speaker 7: with him? He was Uber before Uber?
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  Speaker 2: Well I do, uh were you still there when he was?
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  Speaker 2: Probably not when he was calling in the high school updates. No,
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  Speaker 2: we had done that before you started right to.
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  Speaker 7: Come along and screw things up after that. But you
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  Speaker 7: know I didn't know that for the longest time either.
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  Speaker 7: Then you start doing research, I go Scott de Lucy was.
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  Speaker 9: Called yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah, and he was
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  Speaker 9: my He did color for me when I was doing
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  Speaker 9: Aggie basketball, so that, Yeah, that goes back a little lace.
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  Speaker 7: I'm just saying, if you want to do his resume,
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  Speaker 7: you better have some time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, with time and a long piece of paper for
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  Speaker 2: the resume.
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  Speaker 7: Just a great guy, you know, don't don't believe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna miss him. We're gonna we're gonna miss
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  Speaker 2: be around. Oh yeah, he hasn't died, so he No,
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  Speaker 2: I doubt it. We're gonna see if that works. How's
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  Speaker 2: that is that? Okay? Can you hear something?
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  Speaker 7: Just out I'm an old guy. Gotta do things one, two, three,
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  Speaker 7: You try to go one to four, forget it. I'm lost.
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  Speaker 2: Did you watch any college baseball this weekend? There was
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  Speaker 2: some good college baseball this week Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I was really impressed to see Troy, I mean West
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  Speaker 8: Virginia the first time for either one of those programs
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  Speaker 8: in there.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, because I looked at the numbers.
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  Speaker 8: To day and I saw you probably saw the stat
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  Speaker 8: is only uh last three n c A uh work
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  Speaker 8: Men's College World Series, there's only one repeat. It was
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  Speaker 8: North Carolina out of the last three. So twenty three
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  Speaker 8: different teams have been to the last three college did
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  Speaker 8: not know that, didn't.
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  Speaker 7: Know that far back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's incredible. I mean, think about that. Georgia. Georgia
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  Speaker 2: hasn't been since I forget I saw that stat. It's
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  Speaker 2: been a lot.
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  Speaker 8: At first, I looked at the I guess the meme
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  Speaker 8: or whatever, and it said there was two a's on there,
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  Speaker 8: and I was like, well Alabama's No, that was Arkansas.
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  Speaker 8: So it was last year. So yeah, it's pretty phenomenal. Man.
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  Speaker 2: You look at the parody. It's never been like this,
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  Speaker 2: it has not. I think we need to get used
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  Speaker 2: to that. Probably. Yeah. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 7: I was enthralled by Georgia and Mississippi.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 7: That's because I wanted to see another home run derby.
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  Speaker 7: I didn't want to leave it away from the team.
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  Speaker 7: And yesterday, honest to God, to committed from church and
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  Speaker 7: I go back to back homers. I get up walk
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  Speaker 7: just because you missed another way.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, well I thought you had it wrapped up me too.
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  Speaker 8: North Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: They played great, pitched Craight, the same kid that pitched again. Say,
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  Speaker 2: and it's great yesterday Johnson awesome.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean there's some really good baseball, and
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  Speaker 8: it was just like God, there was some West Virginia
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  Speaker 8: just manhandled.
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  Speaker 2: And Oklaomba said, stopped hitting.
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  Speaker 8: Yet No, they destroyed Kansas to day.
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  Speaker 2: They did. They just destroyed them.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. I forgot that game was on and I turned
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  Speaker 7: all of a sudden it said like twelve to two
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  Speaker 7: or something.
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  Speaker 2: Well they beat him like that two games in a row.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they just dominated.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I never I think I told y'all
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  Speaker 8: I was up there in Lawrence. I was in Kansas City, Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: for the Big Twit twelve tournament, the basketball tournament. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: so A and IM just happened to be playing Kansas
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  Speaker 8: there in February, and I drove over there because I
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  Speaker 8: didn't have any basketball to cover anymore, because of course
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  Speaker 8: they lost in the first round like they did every year.
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  Speaker 8: But I drove over there and it was just the
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  Speaker 8: dinkiest little state.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: So I never imagined that they'd be hosting the Super
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  Speaker 8: Regional over there.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like anything can happen, right, coaching matters. Coaching matters. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And to see the attendance figures when you looked at
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  Speaker 7: absolutely talk about people.
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  Speaker 2: The crowds all weekend were very impressive. It didn't matter
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  Speaker 2: where you were. Every place was packed at and it
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  Speaker 2: was fun to watch. The crowds were up.
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  Speaker 7: And I can laugh because there you're watching it in
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  Speaker 7: Auburn when it turned south and they showed those fans yes,
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  Speaker 7: and I go, that's that shows it right there.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 7: Those people just couldn't believe they weren't gonna win that game. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you talk about fans everywhere.
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  Speaker 8: They showed that down the left field line like they
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  Speaker 8: couldn't see anything other than Georgia.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Right. They were hidden in the corner. Yes, I
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  Speaker 2: mean they were in every corner that they could be it.
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  Speaker 2: They turned. Texas set an attendance record this weekend. They
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  Speaker 2: had eighty five hundred, which the most they've ever had
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  Speaker 2: for a gave me. Only time they've had more fans
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  Speaker 2: is when Nolan Ryan came and pitched an inning and
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  Speaker 2: an exhibition game with the Rangers. They estimated ten thousand.
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  Speaker 2: There were so many people the outfield. They put people
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  Speaker 2: in the outfield. But but for regular They set an
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  Speaker 2: attendance record this week. Amazing. I mean it's the crowds
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  Speaker 2: everywhere you look for that game last night. I don't know, Hey, Daniel,
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  Speaker 2: would you get a box score for the Texas game.
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  Speaker 2: It's had to be close or elementary.
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  Speaker 8: Craig Way reported on his Facebook that he got home
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  Speaker 8: at two am and he was pretty happy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I want to say it ended about twelve That's what
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  Speaker 7: I will say in four hours.
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  Speaker 2: I said this in the first hour. Guys, We've talked
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  Speaker 2: about it before, but it's classic Schlosnagel. Not only is
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  Speaker 2: the is college baseball too long? But Schlasnagel can take
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  Speaker 2: a game another hour. It dies with how he we
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  Speaker 2: remember here right resting because you sat through all those games.
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  Speaker 2: They're taking pitches, they're fouling pitches. It's just that's the
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  Speaker 2: game that he creates.
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  Speaker 8: And he will change pictures and he'll.
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  Speaker 7: Change watched the last time you relieved a picture in
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  Speaker 7: a one two count?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, hey, I saw the the Carolina game was was
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  Speaker 2: was a three oh count yesterday with s C Was
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  Speaker 2: it not three three oh count?
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  Speaker 7: And he came back and pitched too strong?
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  Speaker 2: I think so.
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  Speaker 7: I think he walked the guy. I'm not sure how
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  Speaker 7: long was the game?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Just how how long was the game? With the
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  Speaker 2: box score? Because I I think it was probably right.
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  Speaker 2: I went to bed way before that. I knew I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't gonna make it until eight. Yeah. I came in
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  Speaker 2: from the movie and turned it on. I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was I think it was four to four when
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  Speaker 2: I turned it off, and I don't remember. It's like
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  Speaker 2: the extending or something. I got this game forever they did.
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  Speaker 7: Then they took the lead. It's pretty good actually, and
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  Speaker 7: then I go, well, this is gonna be good because
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  Speaker 7: we'll get to watch baseball tomorrow during the Yeah. Whatever, Yes,
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  Speaker 7: and then.
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  Speaker 2: Three thirty seven, Okay, so it was before midnight. It was.
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  Speaker 2: It was shorter than.
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  Speaker 7: I started before midnight because I was trying to think,
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  Speaker 7: can I get home before midnight because I got my
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  Speaker 7: work halfating?
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever been home before midnight?
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  Speaker 7: See course, of course I work a lot at the
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  Speaker 7: house anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you got your computer, Okay.
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  Speaker 7: The dogs help me.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we didn't have internet out for four days, so
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  Speaker 2: when you wouldn't have been working at home or watching anything.
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  Speaker 7: But anyway, getting back what you guys said, it's a
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  Speaker 7: great couple of weekends in the College World Series. It's
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  Speaker 7: time for college baseball to shine. And that's what you like,
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  Speaker 7: the West Virginia story, the Troy story, and then the heartaches.
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  Speaker 8: Too, because I love West Virginia singing John Denver.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love Yeah. It's pretty fun on
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  Speaker 2: the field, pretty on the field.
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  Speaker 8: The entire stay everybody, I mean the entire stating.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, top, I'm looking at teams who could you know,
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  Speaker 2: cause problems Ole miss came through right that. Those good
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  Speaker 2: games to watch, and those were good games. And Oklahoma,
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  Speaker 2: as I mentioned when the season started, remember am in
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  Speaker 2: Oklahoma played early, early on, and the story was, Wow,
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  Speaker 2: this pitching staff, there are they? Before the you know,
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  Speaker 2: uh Conference started, they were like one their whole staff
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  Speaker 2: he r a was leading the nation. They're going, wow,
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  Speaker 2: that's pitching. And I'm going, well, the pitching probably didn't
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  Speaker 2: live up to that, because it can't once you start
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  Speaker 2: SEC play. But my gosh, are they hitting the baseball.
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  Speaker 8: There's five SEC teams in.
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  Speaker 2: There, five and there would have been six a Mississippi
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  Speaker 2: State would have finagled a different you know team in Georgia.
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  Speaker 8: But that's the thing you got two first timers, yes,
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  Speaker 8: and you got five SEC schools yes, and then North
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  Speaker 8: Carolina's the only team has been.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Georgia has to be the favorite, do they not?
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  Speaker 7: Don't you think somebody said that when I listened, they
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  Speaker 7: said they had to be the betting favorite.
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  Speaker 2: And yes that case, yes, and.
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  Speaker 7: You know you're getting back to always remember, but they.
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  Speaker 2: Have to play Georgia in the first game. I mean
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  Speaker 2: Texas in the first game.
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  Speaker 7: And if that picture from Texas, if he's on his game, yes,
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  Speaker 7: he's going to be tough to be Yeah, because we
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  Speaker 7: I will say this, a lot of those home runs
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  Speaker 7: Georgia hit, they're going to be out of Omaha if
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  Speaker 7: they hit the same kind of dis true. True, but
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  Speaker 7: sometimes the wind blows in yep. And sometimes what you
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  Speaker 7: always say, pitch, he's gonna be ye good hitting A
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  Speaker 7: and M was proof without it originals. If you have
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  Speaker 7: pitch and it can carry. But I was rooting against
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  Speaker 7: North Carolina.
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  Speaker 8: You said that george is the betting favorite. Yes, I
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  Speaker 8: think I was going to ask Brendan Soresby what what
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  Speaker 8: he thought.
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  Speaker 2: He'll know.
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  Speaker 7: That, you know we're gonna get to that. You know,
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  Speaker 7: he bet he's gonna win that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly where we're gonna get to that. See, you
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  Speaker 2: wrote kind of an end of athletics column this life
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  Speaker 2: right and incorporated some of the other besides just baseball. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: with the idea was this a was this a really
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  Speaker 2: good year? You know what? What kind of letter greater
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  Speaker 2: are you giving the athletic apartment? I mean you won
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  Speaker 2: a national championship right in women's tennis too in volleyball,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm sorry that was back. That's been so long ago,
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  Speaker 2: but yes, two national championships.
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  Speaker 7: It's funny you mentioned that because my college is more
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  Speaker 7: about baseball. But actually I delved in today is everybody
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  Speaker 7: always likes to look at the Learfield Cup. Yes, sports
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  Speaker 7: are coming. I don't because they count skiing the same
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  Speaker 7: as football.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, in the count ski or beach volleyball. But I
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  Speaker 2: will say this just to play beach ball rolling yeah
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  Speaker 2: when you when you live in Brackhaus Station.
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  Speaker 7: But I will say this, but the Sears Cup did,
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  Speaker 7: which by the way, originated like nineteen ninety three.
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  Speaker 2: What are the difference between those two then?
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  Speaker 7: Just the sponsor?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but are they scored the same? Uh?
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  Speaker 7: They scored the same, because it's the same name, but
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  Speaker 7: they've changed how they score over the years. Okay, because
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  Speaker 7: they originally said, let's just go with like fifteen or
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  Speaker 7: nineteen sports. Yeah, then they said, now you've got to
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  Speaker 7: claim five. Everybody claims baseball, women's basketball, the Big five,
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  Speaker 7: Big Big five or six. But getting back to what
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  Speaker 7: you you your question was and yours, I think everybody
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  Speaker 7: talks about. To me, the buzzword is we want to
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  Speaker 7: have an all around program. I don't care who you are.
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  Speaker 7: Most ads are not going to say I'm going to
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  Speaker 7: concentrate on men's basketball or I'm not going to concentrate football,
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  Speaker 7: because we live in a society where you're gonna everybody matters.
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  Speaker 7: So you got to say all around.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we say that, but we know that's not
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  Speaker 2: the case. Not the case. Okay, it's it's the case
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  Speaker 2: if football is not very good and you can win
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  Speaker 2: a national championship and and I'm not saying A and
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  Speaker 2: M won't bring good in football. I'm just I'm just
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  Speaker 2: saying it's it's the case if somebody's not good in football,
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  Speaker 2: right and you win, and you go, oh look what
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  Speaker 2: we did. You know, we finished second the Director's Cup,
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  Speaker 2: and most fans in the United States right now of
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  Speaker 2: college athletics are gohead. I don't really care you finished
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  Speaker 2: second the Director's Cup because you were five and eleven
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  Speaker 2: or five and seven in football. This yere right.
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  Speaker 8: Well, they care about the revenue sports, and the revenue
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  Speaker 8: sports there's only two. Yeah, and then men's basketball, man,
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  Speaker 8: and okay, they care about the big three most fans do.
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  Speaker 8: We was talking about the turnout at these college baseball Yes. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: college baseball is a very popular sport more than ever.
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  Speaker 8: You're seeing great quality because you're getting these guys to
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  Speaker 8: stay for their senior year. Yes, and you're getting lower
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  Speaker 8: income kids who can come to school here and play
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  Speaker 8: baseball because they couldn't in the past because they had
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  Speaker 8: the partial scholarships. So you're seeing they're putting a lot
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  Speaker 8: of money into these baseball programs and they want results.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 7: I answer your question this way. When you judge all
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  Speaker 7: fifteen sixteen sports at the A and M House, and
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  Speaker 7: you line up what they did last year, and you
• 16:10
  Speaker 7: line up what the is year considering your track does well,
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  Speaker 7: it's almost a flush. It's almost even okay, because what
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  Speaker 7: happens is the baseball team went to the tournament, which
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  Speaker 7: they didn't last year, but they didn't go past the
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  Speaker 7: first round, right, Softball did not go past the first round. Again, Football,
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  Speaker 7: you have a great.
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  Speaker 2: Year because you went to the playoffs.
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  Speaker 7: You went to the playoffs. Men's basketball big step forward
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  Speaker 7: a game, but women's basketball is still not taking that
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  Speaker 7: step forward. So you take all the sports. Soccer didn't
• 16:43
  Speaker 7: go to the posting. I'll just say, when you consider
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: all the all the sports, it's going to be almost
• 16:48
  Speaker 7: a wash.
• 16:49
  Speaker 8: Well, I mean I would, I'm not going to consider
• 16:51
  Speaker 8: all the sports. I don't that's not my I understand
• 16:56
  Speaker 8: kind of criteria. I mean, I love the volleyball Mass Championship, right,
• 16:59
  Speaker 8: we talked about that last That was a fun run.
• 17:02
  Speaker 8: And I watched every one of those games in the postseason,
• 17:05
  Speaker 8: and you know, kind of worked by schedule around getting there.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: You know, I was exciting and but for the.
• 17:12
  Speaker 8: Most part, I care about football, men's basketball, and baseball. Yes,
• 17:16
  Speaker 8: So it was a really, really good year because to me,
• 17:22
  Speaker 8: what Bucky did was just absolutely phenomenal. And they didn't
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: finish the way they had wanted to because you know,
• 17:29
  Speaker 8: they struggled down stretch, lost the home game of Texas.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: But that doesn't matter. Because they won a game in
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: the tournament, right, I mean, and they got to the
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: tournament and they they were very, very compelled. It's my point.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, I understand that that quote didn't finish well,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: but hey, again, they won a game, and turn based
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: on the expectations. That has really based on the expectations.
• 17:53
  Speaker 8: Last year baseball was a it was terrible, Yes, I
• 17:57
  Speaker 8: mean number one, number one, and then not make yes.
• 18:01
  Speaker 8: But so this year baseball was really good based on
• 18:04
  Speaker 8: the thirteenth in the league and.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: The basketball program. They had zero expectations, so they exceeded
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Baseball exceeded football. You just didn't know. But they got
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: to playoff for the first football so I picked them season.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I think you did to to lose four games in
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: the regular season, so I would say they exceeded expectations.
• 18:25
  Speaker 8: So basically, your three majors exceeded expectations.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Was a was a good year? Yeah, I agree with you,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: And then you throw it two national champions Yes.
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: But I also would back off and the good comes
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: good light because great football season, but you lose your
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: last two games, you losed your rival, and you lose
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: you lose in college football playoffs at home. Baseball great year,
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: get out of regionals. So I call it good light
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: because men's basketball way up there. But they call it
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: good light because unfortunately, sometimes you remember the ending and
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: it's always bad.
• 19:03
  Speaker 8: I don't remember the Houston game in basketball. I remember
• 19:07
  Speaker 8: them playing just beyond their expectations, beyond there.
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: He did so much.
• 19:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Agy, even though he played one year, he'll go
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: down as one of my favorite players.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: But you do remember the Texas in the Miami game
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: in Football's.
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: That's That's what I'm saying is.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Baseball. I have my hotel in Miami. I had to
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: get any money back.
• 19:30
  Speaker 8: I did, got it all back to Charleston, South Carolina.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: There you got beautiful. Yeah, okay, so you did well.
• 19:37
  Speaker 8: Yeah I didn't lose any money.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: You did well. I agree with him.
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: It's amazing.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: I actually cover so many facts I had to look
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: up because I go, who did the men's basketball team loses?
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: Because it was such a good season. All I remember
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: is a good season. They lost to Houston, they got.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Well, he wasn't even close. So it's like, okay, great year.
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: But when it comes to baseball and football, I know
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: exactly who they lost to at the end, right, Chip said.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Because you expected it.
• 20:02
  Speaker 8: It was a failed season in many ways in baseball
• 20:05
  Speaker 8: because you didn't.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Take that next step. It's it's now.
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: I'd say a minus B plus a minus somewhere in there.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: I disagree with that. Yea.
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: So it's like, but you want to see that team
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: go back because they had such lead hitters and they
• 20:22
  Speaker 8: had such a lead offense, and you're like, just and
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: then to see them score one run and just sputter
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: offensively in the last two games.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: But then after seeing that USC pitching staff against a
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: really good North Carolina team, you're going, hey, and watching
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: that USC. You know, I'm not an expert, but it
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: doesn't take much when you watch a team that was
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: a really good baseball team and elemonaded A and M
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: last week. Yeah, but it's so hard I see.
• 20:49
  Speaker 8: But you know, you get little glimpses of the rest
• 20:53
  Speaker 8: of the country, like I got a little glimpse at
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: U c L a earlier season.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: They're mass champions. Yes, you saw them.
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: They were awesome.
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: They were awesome, and then they didn't get out of
• 21:03
  Speaker 8: the region.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all regional I know.
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: And getting back to what you're saying, Hey, it's amazing
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: can I say this, Yeah, go ahead for the show.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: It's really hard to win. Yeah, but it's really hard
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: to win.
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: But in football, it's such a great season. I never
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: think about losing into Vegas ball. I mean when you
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: stop and think about it was such a great season
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: because they had a great season baseball. The problem with
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: baseball to me this is two bad endings in a
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: row because they didn't go last year when they were
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: the top seats. So they had really two underachieving years.
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: And that's kind of tough because now.
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: Well underachieving yeah in twenty twenty five, for sure, but
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: they overachieved in twenty twenty six because where they were.
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: Predicted, right, Yeah, I think the conference thirteenth and the
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: thirteenth in the conference. So yes, it's a great conference.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: From that standpoint. They did over the good point from
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: the standard that fans look at the program by anything
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: less than getting to Omaha. And again we talk we
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: talk about that like, oh, well that's easy. Well obviously
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: it's not easy, because you just mentioned one of the
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: last three years easy. It's not as easy as fans
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: think it should be.
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: Let's put it that one that's exactly right, and it's baseball,
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: and it's baseball, and it's that's it's the weirdest game
• 22:30
  Speaker 8: there is because you just never know.
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: Well, I think it's more weird because what you said
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: about more quality you can get to Troy. There's so
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: many great players out there. You get in a series.
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: If you have three decent pictures, I don't care who
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: you are, you're going to give somebody problems.
• 22:46
  Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, I'd hate to be Alburn around now because
• 22:48
  Speaker 8: they're they're looking around the state and they're.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Going, oh, man, Alabama made that Troy made.
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: That's true.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Troy? Is that Troy? I mean, you know Alabama? Troy Alabama. Hey,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: you got to have a CoA. I'm not saying they
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: aft coach is bad. I'm just saying that these teams
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: that get there, you look at them, and you look
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: at them for a reason, and you're right Troy. I
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: mean you you take Troy to Omaha. That's a much
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: bigger deal than Jim Schleasnegel taking Texas to Oha. Right, yeah,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, good autumn and he's really good at what
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: they go every year. But Troy getting there, man, that's
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: an accomplishment. West Virginia getting there with no history that's
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: an accomplishment.
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: If one of them could be the next Coastal Carolina,
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: because you yes, either one of them, Wou'd really be nice,
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: because you talk about on your bandwagon's Virginia or Troy
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: get hot up there?
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I mean as hard as it is
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: to get there, going through all of these tournaments and
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: the double elimination last week and the best two out
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: of three this week. Man, that is hard to do.
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: I'm just glad there's no Big ten teams in there,
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: so me too.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, tired of hearing about the Big ten. Well you
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: know over, Okay, So we're gonna we're gonna take a break.
• 24:13
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• 24:32
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• 24:36
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  Speaker 2: football season. He needs a break, We need a break
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  Speaker 2: from him. And that's just how it plays out during
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the summertimes. The Brendan Soursby situation that they got a
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  Speaker 2: friendly judge in loveck uh. The wording okay, but the
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  Speaker 2: wording listen, listen to this. This is crazy to me.
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  Speaker 2: This Court finds that applicant has demonstrated that he will
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  Speaker 2: suffer a probable, imminent and irreparable injury if this Court
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  Speaker 2: does not issue this temporary injunction because he will be
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: unable to participate as a member of Texas text twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty six football team. I thought I thought that Sowresby
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: made that decision not to participate when he bet five
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: thousand times, including on his own team at North Carolina State.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't he make that decision? Then? Does? The court says
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: he'll be irreparably damaged Carolina in Cincinnati, Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 7: He threw me there for a sing That's okay, curveball.
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: No, I mean I think this is you have to
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: set a precedent here, and you have to stand up
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: and say you know something needs to end this because if.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: You but haven't we said that rusty with things like
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: this for the last three years in college.
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: But what I'm saying is you're opening Pandora's box on
• 31:16
  Speaker 8: a whole new level. If you're gonna say gambling is
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: okay and they say it's not okay, but we're gonna
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: permit him to come back anyway.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: What same with Charles Bettiaco.
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: But the same thing with Bettio even though he only
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: played what three or four games before that, still plays
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: he played against an m Yeah, played played a role
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: in beating a Yes.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: So I just think there's got to be some kind
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: of precedent here because.
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: In this age where these athletes have money, they don't
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: have any coaching, really life skills coaching. They're not getting
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: this fundamental knowledge about, hey, if you invest your money,
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: it's not gonna always be there. And what's to say that, Hey,
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: I find out that my inn ail deal is not
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: nearly as good as my roommates. Well, I get kicked
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: off and I'm like, you know what, I'm throwing this
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: game and I've got connections here because I.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Mean, oh, it's dangerous, it's a slippery slope. We've already
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: talked about betting and how easy it is today for
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: all college kids, but including athletes who now have money.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Right as you mentioned, they have money to bet, and
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: it's so easy. It's a click of a phone they
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: can bet. And the k State athletic director Gene Taylor
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: has told Yahoo's Sports they have had serious conversations about
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: not playing Texas Tech in any sport this year. Now,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Cody Campbell would be the first one to this judge's
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: office tomorrow if the Big twelve comes out and says
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: we're not playing Texas Tech this year.
• 32:55
  Speaker 8: Well, well, like I said off the air, the Georgia
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: Athletic director Josh said the same thing. I think there
• 33:01
  Speaker 8: needs to be serious conversation about not playing text Tech
• 33:04
  Speaker 8: in any sports.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: He said.
• 33:05
  Speaker 8: This is not about text tech. It's about protecting our
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: own locker room. We cannot in good conscience put our
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: student athletes on a field where the competitive integrity of
• 33:15
  Speaker 8: the contest is compromised and overridden by the courts.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, so, Cody Campbell has his own statement. I'm
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: sure he does. All right, now, listen to this wording.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: This unfortunate situation is the outcome of a broken system.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: I'm doing everything I can to fix it. Again, as
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, he probably shouldn't use fix when we're
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: talking about cambling. But until there is a permanent solution,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Texas Tech edits student athletes, this is the only time
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: we hear them called student athletes have to do the
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: best they can to navigate and compete amid the chaos
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: that exist and the reality of the world we live in.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: That doesn't have anything to do with gambling. He didn't
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: say anything about gambling. He just said, you know, the
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: system's broken. Well, yeah, the system. We already know the
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: system is broken. But this doesn't have anything to do
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: with gambling.
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, let me tell you this gambling wise. After So,
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: after the announcement came out this morning, texts projected over under.
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: I saw that increased.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Not only that, his Heisman odds went from twenty eight
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: or twenty nine to one down to fourteen to one.
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, I'm kind of busy day.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: By the way, that's gambling. By the way, gambling, that's gambling.
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: Yes, I get up late. So the over unders, Yes,
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: I haven't read anything. Does the NC do Can they
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: come back with the counters?
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, they're not going to do it. They can't do it.
• 34:47
  Speaker 8: They've already made their statement. They can't come back.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Really, they've already they had suspended it. They suspended the
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: ones that suspended it, not the university, right, the university
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: did not suspend the NC double A. I don't think
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 35:01
  Speaker 8: It's pretty as far as him playing, it seems like
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: a pretty done deal.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: You think this judge, district judge cannot be over you.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know that. Yeah, I don't know.
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know the problem.
• 35:13
  Speaker 8: According to a couple of folks I read about today,
• 35:17
  Speaker 8: you know, the problem is they can delay this thing
• 35:19
  Speaker 8: long and.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Play all football season. Yeah, so shame Look, look, shame
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: on the university and it's leadership and the president of
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: this university for allowing this to happen. He could step in,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: not the athletic director, not Cody Campbell. But he's so
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: afraid that Cody Campbell won't write any work checks. Right, No,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I'm serious. He will not step in. He's not going
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: to upset Cody Campbell because Cody Campbell runs the university.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: And by the way, I'm not Cody Campbell, bless his heart.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: He is willing to take the slavings and the bullets. Okay,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: there are other there are this bad game they are embracing,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: and I'm fine with that. By the way, they're upfront
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: with it. I am fine with that because there are
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: other UH donors at other universities who don't want their
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: name mentioned. Okay, and so I don't. Cody Campbell has
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: made himself the target because he is unabashed. Yes, I'm
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: writing checks. Yes, we went to the finals two years
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: in a row because I bought softball players. I'm gonna
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: buy some more. I bought a football team. I'm going
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: to buy some more. I don't have any issue with
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: that none, because it's being done at every major university.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: The problem, okay, I.
• 36:41
  Speaker 8: Would say, though, the problem is if Texas Tech's president
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: was to say you're out, then sores Beeed now has
• 36:48
  Speaker 8: a legal case against Texas Text president and he's got
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: five million dollars in his pocket to.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I don't care about that. I'm gonna make that decision.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: That is right. If the courts come in again and say,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: you know, like they did today, that's fine. But I'm
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: going to make the right decision. I'm going to come
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: out like yes, or the president of Alabama should have rusty.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: We've talked about this till I'm sick of it, and residents,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: they've disappeared with all of this stuff. They have disappeared.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: They are not even public about any of this because
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: they're just going, well, it's beyond us. We can't do
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: anything about it.
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: I'm afraid that's where they are right now. Of course
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: they are because they're far less powerful than the football
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: coach and the football player.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: I will maintain they've always been though rusty, but in
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: the past a few of them have had the guts
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: to stand up and say no, this won't stand. Okay,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: as a university, this will not stand. What kind of
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: message are we sending as a university saying this kid
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: who needs help thirty days, he ain't going to cure
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: this kid of a gambling habit. Now, I don't know
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: a lot about the addiction, but I know about addictions
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: in general, and him going away for thirty days ain't
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: gonna cure anything. And if a president had the guts
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: to stand up and say no, he is not playing
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: football for our university, I don't care, he's not playing
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: football for our universe, reshing, it'd be unbelievable because nobody's
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: doing it anymore.
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: I was gonna say what school's doing.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: That they're not just none of them zero zip. You know.
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: I go back to this and my son growing up,
• 38:40
  Speaker 8: was a baseball player, and he got into some trouble
• 38:45
  Speaker 8: right for his senior year, and I told him baseball
• 38:49
  Speaker 8: is not a right, it was a privilege, and you're
• 38:52
  Speaker 8: not playing anymore. And we went up to talk to
• 38:54
  Speaker 8: the coach, and the coach looked at me and goes,
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: are you sure you want to do this? Like, yeah,
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: I mean because what I'm doing, I'm sending.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: You bring up an issue, Rusty, where this kid's parents? Right?
• 39:08
  Speaker 15: It was like, I'm setting a precedent that get into
• 39:12
  Speaker 15: my family and my family and my family, which I
• 39:15
  Speaker 15: still have an opportunity to make decisions, right, But I just.
• 39:20
  Speaker 8: Even questioning me as a parent because I was making
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: my son.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. That's crazy. No, I agree. I mean, where's
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Brendan Soarsby's parents? Well, see, you bring up the point.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I mean he's making he's making million. Yeah maybe they
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: can't make a new house pay, but.
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: You make a lot of money.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: He did.
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: It's happened before.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: I mean it's gonna happen again. But it's just, uh,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm dumbfounded at how all of these quote leaders
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: and they're not leaders because they're not doing anything. They're
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: not leaders. They're not leading, and they don't want to leave.
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: They're making a lot money, but not nearly as much
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: money as the athlete.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: They are making a lot of money.
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: There's no present that I know of is making five
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: million dollars like the quarterback text text make a five
• 40:10
  Speaker 8: million you bring up some point.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, who has the most money, has the most
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: makes the rules.
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Sadly, if Texas Tech is playing a Top ten
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: game next year, I'm probably going to watch it. In
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: the of course is a quarterback and I'm just either way,
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: I'll probably watched the game.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah.
• 40:26
  Speaker 8: I mean we complain about the nil and that there's
• 40:29
  Speaker 8: all time records and people watching COEFA and.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Watching Yeah, which takes me back to the commissioners of
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: the two leagues and controlled college sports. Okay, one of
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: them had their quote spring meetings ten days ago and
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: there was there was nothing, I mean, there was nothing
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: came out of that. It's like, well, we're we're just
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: going to see where this twelve team playoff goes and
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: that's fine. I'm good with that. Don't get me wrong.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: I don't think we should be changing after one year
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: or two years. We don't have enough out of points.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: But but that's fine. But but they don't want structure.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: They're already uh uh Sankie's already come out against this
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: congressional thing. And again, let me just say again, Congress
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: is not the answer. It'll never be the answer. I
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: understand that. But they were trying. Okay, they they had
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: within this bill were four or five things everyone who
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: follows college sports should be able to agree upon, right everyone.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: There shouldn't be anything controversial about a kid only getting
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: five years and only being able to transfer one time
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: unless his coach leaves. That should not be controversial, right right.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: You shouldn't be fighting. You should be the first steps
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: towards that should be first steps. It's like something if
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: you have something else, by all means, let's hear their opinion.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Not just oh no, we're not for this.
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: But in order to change the rules, you're gonna have
• 41:56
  Speaker 8: to have collective bargaining in college athletics, which.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Right now, rusty, I never thought i'd say, I'm for it,
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: but in order to change and get some kind of structure.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: I am for I am, I'm for it. Let's do
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: it because you have zero.
• 42:11
  Speaker 8: It's so much different than even like okay, said the
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: argument of Pete Rose, Well, baseball ahead, collective bargain.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, so Pete Rose was banned from the Hall of Fame,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: and he couldn't go to court, couldn't go to court
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: to overturn that. Sicky belongs in the Hall of Fame.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: But right, but he couldn't go to court to overturn
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: that decision.
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: So this you have to have that collective bargaining to
• 42:34
  Speaker 8: get the rules in place so that you don't go
• 42:37
  Speaker 8: to every little local courtroom to decide.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: All right, I gotta calm down. We're gonna, we're gonna,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: We're gonna take a break. I will say again, I
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: am willing to be the czar of college sports. It's
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: gonna cost some money, but but I will be a
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• 44:51
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back. It is the Writer's Roundtable for a Monday,
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  Speaker 2: Rusty Berson is here, Robert Cessna is here. As I
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  Speaker 7: DraftKings thirty. In fifty states, you can bet right now.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, I know, you get it.
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  Speaker 7: It's everywhere you get Albury State, it's everywhere.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't. You can't turn on the TV,
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: you can't turn on your phone without being asked to
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: bet on something. And it's a huge issue. It's it's guys.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: This is a tip of the Iceberg. Brendon Sorsby was
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: just stupid. He got caught because he was so prolific
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: and stupid and sick and has a problem. Right, that's
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: when you get caught is when you don't care anymore.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: You have such a problem. But it is a huge
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: problem among the college students period. Okay, and you know
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: there are hundreds upon hundreds of athletes betting as we speak.
• 46:59
  Speaker 8: If you don't understand and addiction, leave your phone at
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: home for a couple of days.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, No, you're right, because you're right. You were like
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  Speaker 2: what I am too? Yeah, And I'm the same way,
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  Speaker 2: like I have to if I if I forget, I
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  Speaker 2: have to go home and get it. How could I work?
• 47:15
  Speaker 8: I serve in that prison ministry. I have to leave
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: that phone in the vehicle for ten hours.
• 47:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: And it's like what am I going to miss? I'm
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: going to miss a text message? Yeah, well what's the score? Yeah?
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: What's the score? Yeah? Or I know who did I miss? What?
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: It's it's a probably the first thing I do when
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  Speaker 2: I get that vehicle.
• 47:34
  Speaker 8: It's like, give me my phone.
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah, twenty minutes ago, order my cell phone is, I'll
• 47:39
  Speaker 7: find it.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: We'll find it, all right. So you were talking about
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: the Texas Sports Hall of Fame cease because we the
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: the nominees came out the.
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: Twenty twelve twenty man remember main ballot in twelve old timer's.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: And you're you're on the committee and have been for
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: a long time. Uh. The National Football Foundation put out
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: its College Football Hall of Fame. I didn't bring up
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: last week, same time. I didn't bring all those names in.
• 48:10
  Speaker 7: Ray up there.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Ray Mickens is on there. Jackie, Jackie Cheryl, by the way,
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: I think took advantage of the rule that they did
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: right that they changed the rule from six hundred in
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: order to get coach Leech on the ballot, which thank
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: you very much for doing that, and coach coach Cheryl
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: also was because of that.
• 48:36
  Speaker 9: Was he not?
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Did I get that wrong?
• 48:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah? Those two and uh even less Miles. I mean
• 48:42
  Speaker 7: there's other people right right. They dropped that. Dennis, Yes,
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: Dennis f that's the college I understandall.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: I get that.
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: That's huge news. And hopefully Leech you'll get in, Hopefully
• 48:52
  Speaker 7: Jackie will get in. Ray Mickens is definitely deserving.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Me should have been in years. There's like sixty nine
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: on I know, good luck, I know, I know. And
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: that's that's the problem with all these Halls of Fame.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: About you know that I've talked about, that I've been
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: involved with. Is I like to go back and get
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: some of the guys that have been forgotten right because
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: everything seems to be within the last five to ten years,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: because that's our memory, right is we You know you
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: new guys come every year, right, Well, when new guys
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: come every year, guys like Ray Mickens get forgotten about,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: right Right.
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: You don't realize how I mean, I hate to say this,
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: I didn't realize how long it's ben since Ray Mickens
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: played Crazy and I go, Wow, it's like his first
• 49:34
  Speaker 7: time on the ballot.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 49:36
  Speaker 8: Okay, so I thought Russell Carter, Russell Carter. I mean,
• 49:41
  Speaker 8: I'm amazed.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, Aaron Glinsen, I know, it's like, how
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: is he not? Texas high School Football All time Top
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: ten Texas high school players based on their high school careers, stats, titles, awards,
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: an impact, high school just high school Texas High School
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Who comes to mind?
• 50:14
  Speaker 7: Earl Campbell?
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: Earl Campbell is fourth, Eric Dickerson is sixth. Deptmar Ty
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: Deptmer did not make the top ten. Wow just based
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: on high school right high school Squero running back with
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: the Baylor. Yeah, we just say he's on the top
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: ten running backs, but he's not on the top ten
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: to high school players.
• 50:42
  Speaker 8: Oh, the kid who went to Texas, the running back
• 50:46
  Speaker 8: Jonathan Gray.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, he is not on the top ten. He's on
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: the top ten running back list. He's not on the
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: top ten all time high school players.
• 50:53
  Speaker 7: And who's this list?
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Texas high school football? Sexas high school football? Yep, let
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: me give you a list. Can I Number ten is
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Vince Young. Number nine Grayson Rigdon from Strong Benjamin and Columbus.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: I guess it was a running back now. Matthew Stafford
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: at Highland Park is a Kate Kate club. Nick Westlake
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: is seven, and again, part of what they're doing is titles, stats,
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: awards as well as impact. Okay Dickerson is sixth, Cedric Benson.
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: Is fit.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Earl is fourth. Oh, I beg your pardon. Jonathan Gray
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: was third. I wasn't looking high enough up. He won
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: a lot of state championships and the Sugarland Express. Ken
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Hall is number two. Number one. Skyler Murray, Kyler Murray
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: really number one? Didn't he win four or three in
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: a row? Did he win for state championship? He won
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: three of that he went week right sophomore at all right, interesting, Yeah,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: who else? Who else comes from comes to mind.
• 52:09
  Speaker 7: Right, Childress. That's a good that's a.
• 52:11
  Speaker 8: Good way the dominant and of course he should have thought.
• 52:13
  Speaker 7: Of Kenneth Hall being a naggie, you know.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all of these most I think everyone just name
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: now and and some in some cases Lewis went a
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: championship at Carter.
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: I don't know. I don't know that.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know Ray Lewis, Lewis, Dared Lewis. Yeah, yeah,
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know. That's that's that's a good.
• 52:35
  Speaker 7: It's an interesting list, and I get it.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: They looked like all offensive players to me.
• 52:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and we live in Kenneth Hall. Even he was
• 52:43
  Speaker 7: one of the first look at his offenses numbers and
• 52:46
  Speaker 7: everybody always points to kids. Just broke him Class two
• 52:50
  Speaker 7: a kid, Yes, he just broke his record, Kenneth Hall.
• 52:53
  Speaker 7: Everything's up there.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: And he was on the running back list by the way,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: that kid was like eighth or ninth on the.
• 52:58
  Speaker 7: Run in It's Summer listens.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, well exactly.
• 53:03
  Speaker 7: Matthew Stafford, Holland Park.
• 53:05
  Speaker 8: You know one of the you know, it's James I
• 53:09
  Speaker 8: would James.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: So I have said this so many times, is so
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: many times these lists are projections of what these guys
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: have become, not what they were at the time.
• 53:22
  Speaker 12: Right.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: I say that for college list. If guys you know,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: grew up in the in the like Tom Brady, what
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  Speaker 2: was he third team in Michigan? Right? Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't belong in the college Football Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 7: Probably make it right, he'll live without it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll be Okay, he's not going to better. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think he's in, but he should think he should
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  Speaker 2: not be. And that's my point. We project how they
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  Speaker 2: even high school guys, well, they went on to you know,
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  Speaker 2: Robert Straight is the guy Robert Straight? Yeah, and he
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  Speaker 2: had okay career, but it was But there was another
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  Speaker 2: battler writing back the same way. Besides Claira, there was
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  Speaker 2: one more that was on that list. You can't think
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  Speaker 2: I can't either.
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  Speaker 7: But you talk about the days, and I remember, because
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  Speaker 7: I am in a Texas Sports Hall of Fame deal.
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  Speaker 7: I remember a couple I think it was just one
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  Speaker 7: year ago or whatever. One of the people go, hey,
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  Speaker 7: I want to nominate Caitlyn Clark because she stopped and
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  Speaker 7: got gas when she was in down. Okay, I mean
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  Speaker 7: you know, yeah, you talk about I know everybody wants
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  Speaker 7: to jump.
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  Speaker 2: You have a hard job, man, I'm telling them because
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  Speaker 2: I get it. But like I said, you have a
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  Speaker 2: hard That is a hard job. But I've I've tried
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  Speaker 2: to vote on those Halls of Fames at All Time
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  Speaker 2: lists before, and I used to vote on the College
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  Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame and I let my membership lap.
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  Speaker 2: So I haven't done it in a while.
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  Speaker 7: But here's what you bring that up on, like Russy,
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  Speaker 7: you know, brings up I forget about Robert Straight. You
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  Speaker 7: like lists like that because it tests your memory because
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  Speaker 7: we know who we don't.
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  Speaker 2: I'm very tested because it's horrible now. It used to
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  Speaker 2: I too, hope. So I hope you're sitting here a
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  Speaker 2: now in August. I appreciate it, Rusty. I will see
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