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The Bill Gates Epstein Related Congressional Transcripts (Part 10) (6/29/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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  where he left off with Bill Gates and his interview
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  with Congress mister Spector. Mister Gates. In the interest of time,
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  I'm going to try to not introduce too many different
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  things here, so I'll try to structure the questions in
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  a way that we can do that. But just let
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  me know if we need to. We discussed earlier that
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  a meeting occurred with Epstein present in Washington. You mentioned
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  that earlier, and I think I told you that our
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  DOJ records indicated that happened on August States twenty thirteen.
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  Does that sound about right to you? Moron jumps In?
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  Sorry you said DC or Washington State? Spector sorry, excuse me,
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  Seattle answer? Yeah, the two Washington's question, I call this
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  one DC. Answer. Yeah, my chronology shows that a meeting
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  took place in Washington State. Question. Who else was at
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  the meeting? Answer? You know, I think this is a
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  case where Epstein flew out to Seattle and came to
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  the Gates Venture's office, and so he would have seen
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  both myself and Larry Cohen as part of his being
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  out there. I don't know if doctor Nikolch was there
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  or not. Question, what do you recall about the meeting?
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  What was discussed? Answer? I think the meeting was entirely
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  focused on the terms of doctor Nikolch's exit. Question and
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  was this a meeting where mister Epstein was trying yet
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  again to get additional compensation for doctor Nikolch and you
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  were refusing. Is that a fair generalization of it? Answer?
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  That's the outcome. Yes, that he despite you know, sort
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  of veiled things like saying we should remain friends. You know,
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  I had not asked him to be involved in these
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  exit negotiations, and so it was in the end kind
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  of a worthless meeting. Specter. I'll introduce as majority exhibit
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  for this is an email chain. The first email, which
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  is at the bottom passes out. The first email, which
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  is at the bottom is from Friday, August ninth, twenty thirteen,
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  at ten forty seven pm. The Bates number is EFTA
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  zero one nine five nine eight nine one. So that
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  first email at the bottom again is from Boris Nicolitch
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  to Bill Gates, care of Larry Kahn, subject Jeffrey, thank you.
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  The message it's on the back side of the page
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  that was passed out, It says, Bill, yesterday was a
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  very difficult for both of us. It would be great
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  if you could write Jeffrey a thank you note, as
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  he flew out here to try to help, and I
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  think he did. I thanked him with my deepest gratitude.
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  I know he saved me. I think he saved us
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  both signed Boris, So giving your description of what happened,
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  what do you make of that did mister Epstein save you?
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  And Doctor Nikolch in some way answer he did not question.
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  What do you think Boris meant by this answer? I
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  don't know. I think at some point Boris realized that
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  introducing Epstein was a mistake. But you know, he had
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  asked me, when Epstein did get involved, to send an
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  email to Epstein, which I did, and here then he
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  asked me to send an email to him, thanking him,
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  which I went ahead and did. Specter question again, doctor
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  Nikolich says he flew out here to help, and I
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  think he did. And your testimony today has sort of
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  been opposite, is that Jeffrey Epstein's involvement in these negotiations
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  were useless and accomplished nothing. Answer. Yeah, it's completely provable
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  because he offered to Boris is the same. What he
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  ends up with is the same. So you know that's
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  just black and white facts. Yeah, what did you give
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  him under the table? How about that question question? The
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  next email, so the middle email on the first page,
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  you respond to doctor Nikeoluch with Larry Cohen again, you say,
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  I agree, Jeffrey was quite helpful and he put a
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  lot of time in. Without him, it would have been
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  a lot harder. I will send him a thank you.
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  So it seems like you're saying something a little different
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  in this email than you're saying right now. Is that
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  fair answer? I would I was willing to go along
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  with the narrative that Jeffrey had been helpful. I wanted
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  to get the thing closed. You know, I had decided
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  that doctor Nikolich should leave my employ He wanted to
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  say that we made progress. I knew that the offer
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  on the table. I wanted doctor Nikolitch to accept that.
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  So I don't feel these comments were made in sincerity,
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  but in the furtherance of hey, this is Boris's mindset.
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  Now he feels good. I think you should bring forward
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  the other email that we referred to, because that would
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  be and give very helpful context. Question so you said,
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  though you did ultimately send mister Epstein to thank you.
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  Answer as I was asked to do. Yes. Question, I'm
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  trying not to flood you with more paper here, so
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  I'll just ask about it generally. Do you recall what
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  you what the nature of the thank you was? Answer?
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  I said, thank you, I mean boris both at the
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  start of Epstein's involvement and at the end he asked
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  me to send an email which may have actually been
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  my very first email to mister Epstein was the initiation
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  of his involvement in doctor Nikolich's exit. Question is this
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  the thank you email that you sent to mister Epstein.
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  You make reference to structuring the payment as a gift,
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  and you're discussing how you paid gifts taxes on it.
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  Is it your recollection that the severance payment to doctor
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  Nikolch was structured as a gift. Answer? No, you're confusing
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  something that's absolutely separate. Question Okay, answer no connection with
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  doctor Nikolich's exit. At the time that doctor Nikolch came
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  to work at the Gates Foundation, he had some ongoing
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  consulting agreements so this is five years, six years earlier,
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  and I made at the time so that Boris could
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  walk away from those things without a net loss. I
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  made a half a million dollar gift to doctor Nickolitch,
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  but that's like five years earlier before certainly before I
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  met Epstein, and I believe before doctor Nikolicch had met Epstein.
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  The reason that that came up in the exit discussion
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  was Epstein, having apparently heard about that payment from six
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  years ago, tried to insert some doubt about how the
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  taxes hadn't been paid on that. And this was not
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  the only time, but this is where he tried to
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  insert himself as, hey, I could get give you tax advice,
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  why don't you send me the documents? And youano you
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  probably should show me the email. Because I was very
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  black and white that I'm the most careful about paying
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  taxes of anyone I know. I have great professionals. I
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  wasn't going to send him any tax documents that was
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  structured as a gift. I paid a gift tax and
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  so we're talking about a half million. That's nothing to
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  do with the exit agreement at all. Question. Okay, that's
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  helpful context, and for the record, that is what you
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  say at the end of the email you say, I
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  will bet I am more careful about gift taxes than
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  almost any other taxpayer. Answer. Yeah, I believe that in
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  my fourteen billion of tax payments, I probably paid more
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  gift taxes than others. Question more than me moran And
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  I'll just note that the same email ending in Bates
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  number is zero five to three that we referenced earlier
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  contains some of the same exchange about the tax treatment
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  issue as well. Specter asking questions. Now, question, mister Gates,
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  I want to talk a little bit about I know
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  we've talked about it, and I'll try to be brief
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  and not go back over to many of the same things,
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  but the three extra marital affairs that we've now discussed
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  in today's interview. For the first one, also Mila Antonova,
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  if that's all right with you, I can refer to
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  her as the bridge player or I can call her
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  miss Antonova. Answer. That's fine. Question I think you said earlier.
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  But do you recall when you first met her? Answer
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  at a bridge tournament. Question and where was the bridge
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  tournament answer? I'm not sure question, and it was prior
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  to meeting Jeffrey Epstein. Answer yes. Question do you recall
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  when you learned that miss Antonova had some sort of
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  interaction with mister Epstein. Answer? It would have been when
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  he sent me email suggesting that he had reimbursed her
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  or paid for something in connection in relationship to her.
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  Question and this was years a couple of years after
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  you seize communication with mister Epstein. Is that correct? Answer? No,
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  it's right at the end or soon after the end. No,
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  I think it's right after the end that he sends
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  an email, and most of the email he sent me.
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  Where after I never talked to him again because he
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  made many attempts to re engage. But he sent memel
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  about those reimbursements, and then I went to Larry Cohen,
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  who communicated that I didn't feel it was appropriate or
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  I was under any obligation to reimburse them for what
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  he may have done. Question did anyone else who else
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  may have known about your affair? About this affair? Answer?
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  I don't know who. Question Boris Nikolch, Jeffrey Epstein. Eventually
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  you told your wife. Did anyone else during that period
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  intervening period know about it? As far as you know? Answer?
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  Not that I'm aware of maybe a therapist, but I
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  guess I can exclude my discussions with therapists. Question and
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  then the same sort of questions for Miss nig Mantalina,
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  the nuclear physicist, as we discussed earlier. I think you've
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  talked about this publicly. You said that you met her
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  through business activities? Is that right? Answer? That is right? Question?
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  What sort of business activities? Answer? She worked on both
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  disease modeling and nuclear fission work, and I met her
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  in connection with that. Question work that the Gates Foundation
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  was involved or overlap with her work? Answer? No, it's
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  not Gate Foundation's work. It was worked that it was
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  either Terra Power work or work that I funded, not
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  connected to the foundation. Question for the record, what is
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  Terra Power? Answer? Its nuclear fision, fourth generation nuclear fission company.
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  Question that you fund? Answer, I'm a substantial investor in
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  Tara Power. Question did Miss nig Matalina work directly for
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  Terra Power at all? Answer? Yes, I'm a little confused
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  about when she worked on the disease modeling project and
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  when she did some work at for Tara Power. I
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  think they may have even overlapped. But after she finished
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  both of those pieces of work, is when our affairs started.
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  Question and do you recall approximately of the year that
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  the affair started? Answer, I mean I can find out.
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  Question was it prior to you meeting Jeffrey Epstein? Answer? No,
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  I should look. The time I became aware he knew
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  about that affair was when Epstein files were releases here.
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  Question that's when you found out that mister Epstein was
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  aware of this affair, is what you're saying? Answer right,
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  in those emails to himself among the true and false
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  things that he's stuck in there. In one of those
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  emails he mentions her name. Question but for the record,
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  the way that you met her through the business activities,
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  it had nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein in any way.
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  Answer nothing, not in any way. Question and you did
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  you ever have a conversation with miss nig Mantalina about
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  Jeffrey Epstein? Answer never. Question and then the same sort
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  of questions for doctor Jacobs. You may have said, and
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  I'm sorry, but can you remind me what you're approximately
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  Your affair with her began? Answer before twenty ten? Question
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  so prior to you ever meeting Jeffrey Epstein. Answer that's right. Question,
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  and so you had no awareness of any relationship or
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  any relationship between her and mister Epstein. Answer that's right question.
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  And do you have any awareness of her relationship with
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  mister Epstein as you sit here today? Answer I do
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  not question. I'll ask the same questions for miss Antonova
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  sit here today. Do you have any additional context or
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  awareness of her interactions with mister Epstein besides what we've
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  talked about. Answer well, I read in the press several
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  years ago that she commented that she and mister Epstein
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  and that he had paid some expenses that she wasn't
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  aware of was something that he was communicating back to me.
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  Question So the only additional awareness you have about her
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  interactions with mister Epstein are through public reporting. Answer well,
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  he sends me emails, you know, after I stopped meeting
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  with them. There's a bunch of emails where he's referring
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  to her, even one time reporting that I had asked
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  him to do these things, which is false. But there's
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  a number of emails for him relating to the woman
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  we're calling the bridge player. Question and I'll ask the
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  same question for miss Nigma Talina. Do you have any
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  other knowledge today about her interactions with or communications with
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  Jeffrey Epstein answer, I'd be stunned if there wherever many.
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  So no, I don't question other than that you know
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  that he was aware of your affair. Answer. That's right,
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  but that's not communication to her. All Right, folks, we're
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  gonna wrap up right here, and in the next episode,
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  we're gonna pick up where we left off. All the
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