Latest / Warren's Watchlist - english / Adidas - Update 08/26/2026 - ISIN DE000A1EWWW0
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- 0:07Speaker 0: A company reports the highest quarterly revenue in its history, and on that same day it raises its revenue outlook.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Sounds like a reason to celebrate for the company AND its shareholders.
- 0:20Speaker 0: And yet The stock loses as much of seventeen percent.
- 0:23Speaker 0: That's Same Day One Of The Biggest Single-Day Losses In The Company's History.
- 0:27Speaker 1: Record Revenue Better Guidance Still one of the darkest trading days since the IPO.
- 0:33Speaker 1: What does Adidas say To That?
- 0:34Speaker 0: CEO Björn Goulden says, and I quote we're surprised.
- 0:39Speaker 0: We delivered what we promised
- 0:41Speaker 1: And still this steep fall
- 0:43Speaker 0: because that morning the market reacted to something That had been coming for a while.
- 0:47Speaker 0: it's exactly What?
- 0:48Speaker 0: We talk about in every episode.
- 0:50Speaker 0: revenue is glory cash Is truth
- 0:53Speaker 1: and at Adidas those two come apart
- 0:56Speaker 0: as far Apart as rarely before.
- 0:58Speaker 0: and The remarkable thing is It was in the annual report all along.
- 1:02Speaker 1: For anyone hearing us for the first time I'm talking to Warren Wise, an AI technology that analyzes and scores equity stories like a value investor.
- 1:11Speaker 0: Exactly!
- 1:33Speaker 1: Almost everyone has Adidas in their portfolio or in their closet.
- 1:37Speaker 1: A brand fighting to win back its leading position in the
- 1:39Speaker 1: market.".
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- 1:50Speaker 1: Today I want to understand... Was the thirtieth of July an excess of panic...?
- 1:54Speaker 1: Or did the markets see something that got lost on the celebratory headlines?
- 1:59Speaker 1: But first for context….
- 2:00Speaker 1: Warren Where does Adidas stand for you?
- 2:03Speaker 0: On a three out of five.
- 2:04Speaker 0: With us, that level is called watch list.
- 2:07Speaker 0: not yet investable
- 2:08Speaker 1: Not Yet.
- 2:09Speaker 1: That sounds like close call.
- 2:11Speaker 0: It's Close.
- 2:12Speaker 0: The Three Is the Threshold.
- 2:14Speaker 0: Below it things get critical Above it Interesting.
- 2:17Speaker 1: And the Survival Test
- 2:18Speaker 0: In my so-called Graham test its only about knockout criteria.
- 2:22Speaker 0: distress crushing debt doubts about balance sheet.
- 2:26Speaker 0: adidas passes that and A rating from Standard & Poor shows too even an upgrade.
- 2:32Speaker 1: So, no drama?
- 2:34Speaker 0: No drama but still only a three.
- 2:36Speaker 0: That's why I'll show you what the market and my report actually saw.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Were the quarterly numbers bad
- 2:42Speaker 0: on revenue?
- 2:43Speaker 0: quite the opposite up thirteen percent in The second quarter six point seven billion euros the best quarter In the company history.
- 2:51Speaker 1: And where is the problem?
- 2:52Speaker 0: one level down.
- 2:53Speaker 0: the operating margin for the quarter was expected by the market to rise To nine point five percent.
- 2:59Speaker 0: instead it declined to eight point five.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Why?
- 3:02Speaker 0: The costs for the World Cup.
- 3:04Speaker 0: Adidas outfitted more than twenty federations plus balls and marketing.
- 3:09Speaker 0: that money goes now, the revenue comes later
- 3:12Speaker 1: And the profit.
- 3:13Speaker 0: Now comes number that probably tipped stock Revenue up thirteen percent.
- 3:18Speaker 0: Operating Profit Up only six.
- 3:21Speaker 0: So profit grew barely half as fast as revenue.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Revenue is growing more then twice as fast As profit.
- 3:28Speaker 0: That's negative operating leverage.
- 3:30Speaker 0: Normally, you want the opposite.
- 3:32Speaker 0: When revenue rises profit should rise faster because part of the costs is fixed.
- 3:38Speaker 0: Here it's other way around like a car burning more fuel The Faster It Goes.
- 3:43Speaker 1: And how was the outlook?
- 3:44Speaker 0: The second blow Adidas raised its Revenue Outlook but left the Profit Target unchanged.
- 3:50Speaker 1: So More Revenue Promised But Not More Profit!
- 3:53Speaker 1: The Market Hears The Extra Growth Is Being Eaten Up By Costs.
- 3:57Speaker 0: Exactly that message And, importantly those are the numbers from the thirtieth of July.
- 4:03Speaker 0: My report is the analysis of The Annual Report for twenty-twenty five and there a related pattern was already visible back in March record on top substance fading underneath.
- 4:15Speaker 1: then let us first weigh up what Was Already Good In The Equity Story?
- 4:19Speaker 0: That's A Lot Because The Recovery Is Real.
- 4:22Speaker 0: Operating Profit For The Full Year.
- 4:24Speaker 0: Twenty-Twenty Five Rows To About Two Billion Euros.
- 4:27Speaker 0: A Strong Jump.
- 4:28Speaker 1: And the margin?
- 4:29Speaker 0: From five point six to eight point three percent.
- 4:32Speaker 0: That's not a baby step, that's a
- 4:34Speaker 1: leap!
- 4:34Speaker 1: So Adidas is almost its old self again...
- 4:37Speaker 0: On revenue yes nearly twenty-five billion more than ever before in the company history.
- 4:43Speaker 1: and on profit
- 4:44Speaker 0: there still a gap.
- 4:45Speaker 0: In The Old Record Year of Twenty Nineteen about eleven cents Of every Euro of Revenue stayed as Operating Profit.
- 4:51Speaker 0: Now it's About Eight.
- 4:53Speaker 0: so the earnings power isn't fully back yet.
- 4:55Speaker 1: So revenue Is Back at Record Level.
- 4:57Speaker 1: Earnings power isn't yet.
- 4:59Speaker 0: And that's exactly the benchmark this comeback wants to be measured against.
- 5:03Speaker 0: The direction is right, the last stretch is still missing.
- 5:07Speaker 1: Did that happen under its own power?
- 5:09Speaker 0: and here I have to be precise.
- 5:11Speaker 0: Part of last year was still carried by Yeezy –the old Kanye West line.
- 5:15Speaker 0: But the core brand carried growth on it's own.
- 5:18Speaker 0: That's an important point.
- 5:20Speaker 0: Currency adjusted, thirteen percent growth.
- 5:22Speaker 0: Double digit in all six regions All six growing together.
- 5:26Speaker 1: And the balance sheet, how does that hold up?
- 5:29Speaker 0: So a
- 5:39Speaker 1: credible comeback after two very hard years.
- 5:42Speaker 1: That sounds like more than a score of three!
- 5:53Speaker 1: Quick word in our own interest since it fits... What you're hearing is the short version.
- 5:58Speaker 1: The full analysis, with all of
- 6:23Speaker 0: What's left at the very bottom for shareholders.
- 6:26Speaker 0: In twenty-twenty five it rose by seventeen percent.
- 6:29Speaker 1: And what actually came in as cash?
- 6:32Speaker 0: Take a guess.
- 6:33Speaker 1: Also double digit, twenty per cent up
- 6:36Speaker 0: Down seventy four per cent.
- 6:37Speaker 1: Wait...in the same year The same company
- 6:40Speaker 0: Same company, same year From nearly three billion down to seven hundred and fifty one million.
- 6:46Speaker 0: My report calls that a striking gap between profit on paper & cash in the bank.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Where did stand for Adidas
- 6:52Speaker 0: The year before?
- 6:53Speaker 0: at one eighteen, more than fully covered.
- 6:55Speaker 0: Excellent!
- 6:56Speaker 0: Now at zero point two
- 6:57Speaker 0: four.".
- 6:58Speaker 1: So of every euro in the books only about a quarter arrives as cash?
- 7:03Speaker 0: Roughly.
- 7:04Speaker 0: and then comes the sentence that makes me sit up free cash flow.
- 7:08Speaker 0: what's genuinely left over was lower than the dividend Adidas paid out.
- 7:12Speaker 1: so the payout is bigger Than What Comes In.
- 7:15Speaker 1: That's like paying my everyday expenses not from My salary but From my savings.
- 7:20Speaker 0: And it's Not an Alarm But it's the kind of number where the coach takes his eyes off the split time and starts watching the runners breathing.
- 7:27Speaker 1: But, Where did money flow?
- 7:29Speaker 0: Into inventory stock rose by eight hundred forty three million euros currency adjusted by twenty-three percent
- 7:36Speaker 1: And revenue?
- 7:37Speaker 0: Grew by barely five.
- 7:39Speaker 0: so inventory is running four times as fast.
- 7:41Speaker 0: sales goods sitting in warehouse are money that isn't working.
- 7:45Speaker 1: The explanation?
- 7:49Speaker 0: Management says we're deliberately pre-positioning the goods for The Big Sales year, and that's plausible.
- 7:55Speaker 0: A World Cup is planable—the demand is
- 7:58Speaker 0: coming.".
- 7:59Speaker 1: Is that plausible, Warren?
- 8:00Speaker 0: Directionally yes!
- 8:02Speaker 0: It's like a runner before the start —deliberately storing energy….
- 8:06Speaker 0: That's foresight...The question is only whether it's released later or if just sits there as weight.
- 8:12Speaker 1: And you are finding…?
- 8:13Speaker 1: In
- 8:13Speaker 0: terms of scale – its serious Over a billion euros is locked in working capital.
- 8:18Speaker 0: That's real money that isn't available right now, and that's why the honest question is Is this a bet or it foresight?
- 8:25Speaker 1: If yes It was preparation.
- 8:27Speaker 1: if no The goods sit there And eventually have to go out at discount.
- 8:32Speaker 0: Exactly so!
- 8:33Speaker 1: How does that feed into the score?
- 8:35Speaker 0: Four dimensions Sit on three Cory.
- 8:38Speaker 0: For first two Cash is common thread.
- 8:41Speaker 0: First financial strength Because cash conversion collapsed and free cash flow didn't cover the dividend.
- 8:47Speaker 1: And the second?
- 8:48Speaker 1: Capital
- 8:49Speaker 0: allocation, The question of what a company does with its money... ...and here it gets specific.
- 8:54Speaker 0: For twenty-twenty six Adidas is planning the biggest dividend in a long time about one and half billion euros.
- 9:01Speaker 1: So one and a half billion to shareholders from a pot that lately took in less than three quarters Of one billion in cash.
- 9:08Speaker 0: My report puts It In One Sentence net debt rose by more than a billion euros in a single year.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Out of the balance sheet means Adidas takes on new debt or draws down reserves to fund the payout, is that dangerous?
- 9:24Speaker 0: Not yet.
- 9:25Speaker 0: Measured against profit ,the debt is moderate .
- 9:27Speaker 0: The rating holds but there's one figure That makes me cautious interest coverage fell from nearly double covered To just about
- 9:34Speaker 1: half From nearly double-covered to Just About Half In A Single Year.
- 9:40Speaker 1: That's as if my salary suddenly only covered half of what it used to.
- 9:44Speaker 0: And in that very year, they announced the biggest payout in a long time.
- 9:48Speaker 0: for completeness.
- 9:50Speaker 0: Interest coverage of about half is not critical in absolute terms but the direction is what matters.
- 9:56Speaker 1: Handing out the prize money before the races run...
- 9:59Speaker 0: ...that's how I'd put it!
- 10:00Speaker 1: and What else is dragging the score down?
- 10:03Speaker 0: Risk transparency?
- 10:04Speaker 0: Adidas names fifteen material risks quantified in concrete euro amounts.
- 10:09Speaker 0: none
- 10:09Speaker 1: of them even though it's calculated
- 10:17Speaker 0: internally?
- 10:23Speaker 1: So without concrete amounts and probabilities, I can only hardly judge what happens if one of those risks actually hits.
- 10:30Speaker 0: Is
- 10:35Speaker 1: there anything else that corrects the score downward?
- 10:39Speaker 0: Not because Adidas doesn't develop, but because the report barely describes it in a tangible way.
- 10:45Speaker 0: For a company whose whole future rests on product that's too
- 10:48Speaker 0: little.".
- 10:49Speaker 1: Is there anything else beneath this surface?
- 10:51Speaker 1: I should know?
- 10:51Speaker 1: Two
- 10:52Speaker 0: things... The first are US tariffs.
- 10:55Speaker 0: Adidas manufactures about ninety-two percent of Asia and sells large shares into United States.
- 11:01Speaker 0: Tariffs raise costs… And the group absorbs them centrally.
- 11:05Speaker 1: Why does that matter?
- 11:06Speaker 0: Because the regional figures look better than business there actually is.
- 11:10Speaker 0: North America grew, but tariff cost doesn't sit in region.
- 11:14Speaker 0: it sits at group level.
- 11:16Speaker 1: So the region does not pay tariffs?
- 11:18Speaker 1: The group carries them centrally and from outside.
- 11:21Speaker 1: I can see how much of profit that eats up
- 11:24Speaker 0: Exactly!
- 11:25Speaker 0: And second good news Last year's revenue still contained final sales of Yeezy inventory.
- 11:31Speaker 0: That has gone.
- 11:32Speaker 0: yet Adidas is growing double digit.
- 11:35Speaker 0: The base is now the pure brand.
- 11:38Speaker 1: So,
- 11:42Speaker 0: that's why business model and market position both earn a four?
- 11:50Speaker 1: We've heard a lot by now!
- 11:52Speaker 1: Walk me through again Why.
- 11:53Speaker 1: Adidas gets score of three And his only watch list Not yet investable
- 11:59Speaker 0: Eight dimensions.
- 12:00Speaker 0: You know all readings One five for leadership in governance Two fours for business model and market position, And Four threes.
- 12:08Speaker 0: Financial strength Capital allocation Risk transparency Innovation.
- 12:13Speaker 1: What does that average out to?
- 12:15Speaker 0: Just under three point six.
- 12:17Speaker 1: That would round the score to a four The second highest level.
- 12:20Speaker 0: If I were computing an average.
- 12:22Speaker 0: Yes But i don't compute an average.
- 12:25Speaker 0: Only now do checks begin.
- 12:27Speaker 0: The consistency check doesn't ask whether the individual values are good, but whether the overall picture hangs together.
- 12:35Speaker 0: And it finds hard contradictions all tied to cash.
- 12:38Speaker 0: profit up money down dividend not covered.
- 12:41Speaker 0: that kind of thing costs half a point.
- 12:43Speaker 1: in the monger test
- 12:45Speaker 0: That one looks for recurring patterns and It has triggered.
- 12:48Speaker 0: One pattern is active capital deployment paying out from the balance sheet instead of from cash flow another half-point.
- 12:56Speaker 0: Still, it doesn't escalate to systemic risk.
- 13:00Speaker 0: That would have cost a whole point.
- 13:02Speaker 1: So its not the average that puts Adidas on The Three It's the deductions.
- 13:06Speaker 0: My scoring is precisely not compensatory.
- 13:08Speaker 0: A strong dimension can't offset a weak one.
- 13:11Speaker 0: Two active patterns each cost a point.
- 13:14Speaker 0: Thats exactly what turns the three-point six into a three.
- 13:17Speaker 1: Wait!
- 13:18Speaker 1: two deduptions One root.
- 13:19Speaker 1: Isn't same thing being punished twice there?
- 13:22Speaker 0: No They are two different offenses.
- 13:24Speaker 0: The Buffett test punishes the state, profit and cash contradict each other.
- 13:29Speaker 0: The Munger Test punishes a decision announcing the biggest payout in this very year.
- 13:34Speaker 0: had Adidas held it back –the second half point would not have fallen– the first still
- 13:39Speaker 0: would.".
- 13:40Speaker 1: What Would the Board Have to Answer For You?
- 13:42Speaker 0: First… And This Is The Most Important Question When Does The Inventory Build Turn Back Into Cash?
- 13:48Speaker 0: I Want To See It Reverse In Next Report.
- 13:51Speaker 1: So not the vague answer sometime after The World Cup, but a concrete date.
- 13:56Speaker 0: Second I'd ask the board when will tied up capital be back inside your own target band and by what day?
- 14:02Speaker 1: And the third question is about the money i assume.
- 14:05Speaker 0: Third explain to shareholders that one-and-a half billion payout for twenty twenty six.
- 14:10Speaker 0: does it come from strength or Is It A signal That's being funded out of the balance sheet?
- 14:15Speaker 1: and now For context before Anyone gets the wrong idea A three on the day of a seventeen percent drop.
- 14:21Speaker 1: So that is not a cell signal?
- 14:23Speaker 1: No,
- 14:24Speaker 0: and that's not illegal disclaimer but methodological limit.
- 14:28Speaker 0: We assess how well a company has positioned Not what its stock is worth any given day.
- 14:33Speaker 1: The price doesn't come into it at all
- 14:35Speaker 0: Not in the score.
- 14:36Speaker 0: An excellent company can be miserable if you pay too much.
- 14:39Speaker 0: Quality & Price are two separate steps we do first.
- 14:43Speaker 0: second is yours.
- 14:44Speaker 1: And What raises or lowers the score?
- 14:46Speaker 1: What should I watch for in the next report?
- 14:51Speaker 0: And if
- 15:01Speaker 1: someone reaches a completely different conclusion,
- 15:04Speaker 0: then they may be right.
- 15:06Speaker 0: An investor with In this case, my yardstick is the cash.
- 15:17Speaker 0: And it says clearly watch don't invest.
- 15:20Speaker 0: yet.
- 15:21Speaker 0: that's the judgment I'll stand by.
- 15:23Speaker 1: Warren what do i take away practically?
- 15:25Speaker 0: Three things and all three.
- 15:27Speaker 0: The Adidas Case just showed us first always read the cash flow statement not Just Profit.
- 15:33Speaker 0: profit Is an opinion Cash is a fact.
- 15:36Speaker 1: and second
- 15:37Speaker 0: compare inventory growth with revenue growth.
- 15:40Speaker 0: if inventory runs faster money as being stored on the shelf.
- 15:44Speaker 1: And third, look
- 15:45Speaker 0: at what a company wants to pay out and hold it against what actually comes in.
- 15:49Speaker 0: The gap between the two is where the story really lives.
- 15:52Speaker 1: In my own rule when a company explains why a bad number is good this time I note down exactly that explanation and check it against the next report.
- 16:02Speaker 0: A Good Rule.
- 16:03Speaker 0: That's Exactly How A Value Investor Thinks.
- 16:08Speaker 0: The World Cup was Adidas's record split time, the brand on every stage revenue at an all-time high.
- 16:14Speaker 1: And at that same time?
- 16:16Speaker 1: That
- 16:16Speaker 0: same split time cost energy.
- 16:18Speaker 0: it inflated marketing and filled the warehouses.
- 16:21Speaker 0: one event three effects and two of them show up in the cash...
- 16:25Speaker 1: ...and two of those three effects are unpleasant.
- 16:28Speaker 1: so the question isn't how fast the runner was a kilometer thirty
- 16:32Speaker 0: but whether the strength lasts to finish weather.
- 16:34Speaker 0: the stored energy actually arrives into race.
- 16:37Speaker 0: That's why the score is a three, promising but not yet proven.
- 16:41Speaker 1: And The Lesson?
- 16:42Speaker 0: Sometimes the event that makes the finest headline Is the same one that empties the till.
- 16:47Speaker 0: Revenue is glory because it makes the headlines.
- 16:50Speaker 0: Cash is truth Because It shows what really left in the till.
- 16:54Speaker 0: at end.
- 16:55Speaker 1: We'll stay on it
- 16:56Speaker 0: Until next deep dive.
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