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Merch Hauls, Fiery Farewells & Jury Duty: All in One Episode · Rik and that Michele Chick

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Welcome to Rick and That Michelle Chick, the weekly
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podcast where your hosts, Rick and Michelle, confidently dive
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into topics they know absolutely nothing about and somehow make
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They're not qualified. Honestly, they barely googled
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it. So grab a drink, lower your
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So buckle up. Facts are optional, but the
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bullshit? That's premium grade.
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This is Rick and that Michelle chick.
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Well, today I have a headache I had.
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A hangover. It's not Rick and it's not Rick,
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so that's good. It's not Rick.
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I have AI have a hangover. Are my are my eyes still puppy?
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I did the little eye. Oh, hi, Roxy.
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That's Barkley. Oh, no, that's Barkley.
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I did the little eye things this morning, but that's from crying.
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'Cause it was that bad of a headache.
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Well, no. Oh, for the Mariners.
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The Mariners, No. OK.
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I'm hungover because I started drinking, which, OK, which to be
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fair, I was gonna be drinking whether they won or lost.
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It was either gonna be drinking in celebration or drinking to
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drown my sorrows like that. Well, what?
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What was gonna happen? As of us recording this podcast,
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that game was last night that the Mariners lost to the Toronto
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Blue Jays Game 7, which I knew it was going to go to seven
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games in the ALCS championships and we lost and yeah, but by one
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run. It was crazy.
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It's crazy. And and you know, what's kind of
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funny is it's like, I know that you and Todd and your dad or,
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but we're just massive Mariners fans.
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So my heart breaks for the fans. Not not for the team and not the
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team. Yeah, it it really comes down to
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the peoples whose heart got broke to me.
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I mean, I think it's everyone. And so I to be honest, like I
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don't think I've ever cried over a team losing like in my life,
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except for last night. I mean, probably because I was a
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little bit drunk, but also because also because it meant so
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much to my dad. And so as I'm like crying in my
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in my head, I could hear Tom Hanks's voice.
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There's no crying in baseball, you know, But I'm just like,
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like literally crying. But I think part of that is
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because my plan this, it was my plan, OK, I don't know if it was
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going to happen or not. My plan was if the Mariners went
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to the World Series, I was going to get a ticket, buy a ticket.
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I know they're going to cost like a gazillion dollars, Sell a
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kidney, sell a Louis Vuitton first.
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Whatever it took at this point to go go to one game, That's
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all. That's all I wanted.
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And I was going to take some of my dad's ashes, and I was trying
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to figure out over this last couple of playoff games, like,
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OK, OK, if they really make it, how am I gonna take some of his
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ashes into the stadium without them getting, you know, like,
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flagged? I'm like, OK, I'm just gonna,
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like, scoop him out into a zip lock, like put a little bit in a
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Ziploc baggy, and then I could just put it in my pants pocket
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because they're not going to, like, physically search.
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Me. They're not.
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They're not. So I could just sneak him in
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easily that way. Like I don't want to put him in
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anything metal, not some container or anything like that
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that's going to get flagged. Yeah.
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Through security that they're going to be like, you cannot
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bring human remains into the ballpark.
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So that was my plan and they were going to make it all the
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way. So I think it's the other reason
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why I was, you know, extra emotional and I was drunk, so it
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all kind of collided. But but it's one of those things
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which it's like the crazy. OK, so it's you know, it's it's
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seven game series, right? So what's crazy is let's say,
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let's say they were already down by 4, then everybody would have
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not cared. You know, it's because it was
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like, no, I mean, they would have cared, but I'm saying that
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that would you rather have it go to the final nail biter like it
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was or of. Course, because that's the
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Mariners. Oh yeah.
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Or would you like, or would you like to go after the first
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couple games? OK, Yeah, they're not.
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They're they're done, you know? Well, I mean the Dodgers one in
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four games, so I mean. That's what I'm saying, yeah.
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So what's a what's a better? Yeah, what's a better?
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What's a better way to see it is your team just walks in, wins
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four in a row and says we're done or one final run.
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Yes, the Mariners way, it's down.
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It's a nail biter. That is the Mariners way and I
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saw. Everybody on there, you know,
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bag it on. Oh, this person should have done
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this. And this person, I mean you.
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Can't Monday morning quarterback.
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I know I saw that too and I was like just just let it just
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settle for everyone. Think it's just think about so
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this is what I always say about professional athletes, because
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everybody thinks everybody thinks they're a professional
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athlete. So there's a reason why it's a
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98 mile an hour fastball. It's 100 miles an hour.
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You and I, I mean, I would, I would challenge anybody normal
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you go pick up a ball and see if you can go make it go 100 miles
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an hour. It's the same, it's the same
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thing. But even when you watch the
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worst team in the in baseball, the worst team in hockey, the
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worst team in football, they're so far ahead of the average
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person, even the even the worst of the worst.
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Yes, like, like you like again, it's like you can't do what
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what? These athletes are just amazing,
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if that makes sense. Right, No, but yes, I understand
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what you're saying and I know like the fans, I I don't, and
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this is in every sport. It's it's like they're entitled
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to, you know, my team has to do XYZ or has to be this or has to
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whatever. And if they aren't, then they
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get pissed off about it. But this is sports.
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This is what happens. Yes, it sucks horribly, but it's
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just, it's how it is. I always, I always, I always
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tell people when they're because that's the the big conspiracy.
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All this stuff is scripted and different things like that.
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And it's like, there's no way. There's just I when you do
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football or wrestle, I'm not wrestling.
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Yes, that's choreographer. I get it.
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That's choreography and all that.
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Well, WWE wrestling, but they still get wrestling.
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But they can still get hurt. I mean, oh, yes, yeah.
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I mean, and then and then, yeah. Because I remember it was so
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funny when I was a little kid. My, my Grandpa Fred.
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Grandpa Fred, he'd be looking at me and he'd be Virgil.
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That's real that that wrestling is real.
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That is real. And my grandfather, so the day
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he died, believed that WWE was real wrestling.
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I said, I said, Grandpa, come on.
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I mean, yes, they're athletes and you can't do it and you
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can't do what they do and they're trained, but but they
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know what they're going to do. And then sometimes, like you
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said, it goes wrong and they do get broken bones.
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They get a broken leg. I mean, it's not in that sense,
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it's not make believe is anything can happen and so.
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It's over exaggerating or making it more than it is making it
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grand. That's what everybody does.
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When you do this on our podcast, you do it on the radio.
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It's what you do. I was thinking about one of the
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pitches and my Co host Patty had said, man, did you see that
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pitch where it it barely missed the guy at 100 miles an hour?
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I wonder. I mean, that's got her.
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I mean, or he's bringing bone. Yeah, yeah.
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What 100 miles an hour and they hit a boat.
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I mean, hit, hit a leg. It's it's going to break
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something. So yeah, it was, it was, it was
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fun to watch. And again, I did my whole my, my
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usual like I don't want to jinx it.
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So I I'll leave. The game did you leave?
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I did. Of course.
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I'm like, Oh no, but they were ahead.
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So they were ahead when I so I thought, oh, I'll pop over to
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the Seahawks game, watch a little bit of Monday Night
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Football or whatever, right? And then I popped.
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Back and then and then when I popped.
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Back in, they were still ahead, so they had gotten to what was
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they'd gotten to the 8th or whatever.
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And I'm like, and they were still OK.
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And I said, OK, they're going to they're going to do this.
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And then I was like watching some other football.
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So anyway, yeah, for for you Mariners fans, I understand the
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crying and I don't know, and the drunkenness.
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I guess I'll give you a pass on the being a being drunken sailor
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I took. But I like your idea.
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Yeah. And I like your ideas that that
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no one's going to search if you take a little bit of ashes.
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Do you realize that they had a problem?
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I think we talked about Disneyland, where Disneyland had
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asked people to quit. Quit dropping, you know.
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In Haunted Mansion, which is what I originally had wanted to
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do with my ashes, which We could talk about this.
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Yeah, we could. Talk about ashes, right?
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Yes, yes, there's something that I wanted to talk about.
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So yes, so that's originally what I wanted done with my ashes
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after I died was that make the kids take them to Disney and
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sprinkle them and haunt a mansion.
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But but I don't want them to get permanently banned from Disney
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because they are human remains. And Disney has had to say stop,
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please stop doing this to people.
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But so on my Instagram, this just happened like this week.
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I was just scrolling along mindlessly, aimlessly, and this
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video pops up that your ashes can be made into fireworks.
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And at first, OK, the video, the video looked AI.
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So I went, is this real or is this fake right now?
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Now you have to question everything.
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And so I did some research and it sure as shit is there's like
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two companies. So you send your ashes in and
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then they mix or make them into salt.
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Mix them into salt because obviously you can't be exploding
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human remains right in the air. So they mix you into this salt
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and then it gets put in with the fireworks powder and then you're
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made into fireworks. This is what I want done with my
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ashes. So I want to have this grand
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celebration of life. People going to be eating and
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drinking and dancing and then at the end of the night I am going
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to be the show of fireworks lighting up the sky.
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I think that I think that is a great plan for my end of life.
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There there is so many I've I've seen variations, so I've seen
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that you could be a a vinyl record.
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Fireworks. Yeah, I've seen the records.
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I've. Seen the record, I've seen the.
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Diamond I've seen all that, but I have not seen the fireworks.
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I have not seen that that either.
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Well, I think I think anything is possible.
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Then I'm going back. I'm circling back to your
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Disneyland trip. When you're talking about
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Haunted Mansion. Well, they probably, yeah, they
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could probably find those. But why not when you're on a
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small world where it's the water and just as you're going down?
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The view in the water. Well, what, why, why would I
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mean, why is is haunted? Is the Haunted Mansion your
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favorite? Is that why you have to be in
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the Haunted Mansion? It's not my favorite, but I mean
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that just seems like. That makes sense.
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I appropriate. Place.
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Yes. I got it.
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I got you. So not a, but I was thinking
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about, I think my favorite. Ride, which this is funny
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because in your book it's not. Your favorite ride would be
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Space Mountain, yes. Is that not the?
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Is that not the greatest story it?
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Is yes, that. And as I'm reading this, I'm
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like, I am never going to an amusement park with you because
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you will not ride the rides and we ride all the rides.
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So that is the rule. Yeah.
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So the craziness of that, that whole situation was I've been on
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trimmers and I've and I've been on a couple of rides for, for,
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for, for Logan, for Logan. So we went a couple years ago
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and it's a Silverwood. And I, I am not, I'm to this day
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still not a fan. I'm just not.
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But I want to make everybody happy.
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And sure as shit, not just the fact that we were going to go on
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the, the, the roller coaster, which is perfectly fine.
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I'm like, OK, fine, we'll done the roller coaster.
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That shitting thing was going backwards.
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No, no, I mean I. Wrote it that go forward and
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then stop, yeah. So it just happened to me
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because it was Halloween or scary when it was in reverse.
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And I'm like son of a like, I don't know.
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I mean, if I have to go forward, fine, I'll go forward.
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I guess I'll do this, right? No, it had to go backwards.
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So I'm getting backward. I hate it.
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I hate. Well, I don't.
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I don't like, I don't like any of that uncertainty.
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It's just not. It's just not fun to me.
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Well, yeah, no wonder you don't like Space Mountain because you
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are in the dark. Well, and so, and that's what
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makes that story so hilarious because up to that point, as a
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little kid there, there was no ride if you knew my personality.
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It was like, oh, I. I wasn't afraid of anything like
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like I was not afraid and I was very cocky.
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I, you know me, I was very vocal, very vocal, yes, vocal
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that I was not afraid of anything.
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And so we get on Space Mountain and holy crap, I cried like I
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cried called well. Shayley calling.
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For my mommy, call for my mommy. Shaylee went on which was 5 and
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she loved it, so she had her arms up.
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I could feel them smacking me because he whips you around.
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You can't. Yeah.
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Because you're in the dark, so you don't know when these
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corners are coming. And she was laughing the entire
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time. But we set our kids up
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especially like, Haunted Mansion.
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You know, we kind of a lot of kids start crying and get scared
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on that ride. And so we made sure that they
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there was no surprises for them, that they were prepared.
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Yeah. So they were prepared for
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Haunted Mansion and for Space Mountain, especially when you're
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5. And so that it wasn't scary to
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them. It was fun.
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I, you know, and, and so for me, if you're asking my favorite
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Disney ride, of course, just just out of nostalgia, it's Mr.
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Toad's Wild Ride. I.
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Love Mr. Toad, I loved it as a little kid and there's photos of
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Logan and I at different ages or Logan at different ages because
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we went probably 3, we probably went three times in his youth.
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And so that I have photos of each time in front of that
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statue, the Mr. Toad statue. But Mr. Toad for me, even as
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adults, one of my one of my favorites.
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And then even as a kid, what was it?
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The Matterhorn one was was still there.
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I didn't have. Matterhorn was fine.
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Matterhorn was. Fine, which I know is not
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technically a ride, but that's probably like my non roller
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coaster E thrill ride, right is the traditional tiki room to
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make everybody go. Let me go to the tiki room and
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it's a small world. I make everybody ride that.
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Too. It's a small world that yeah,
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that's fun. Pirates of the Caribbean,
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Indiana Jones, those are all like, those are for me.
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Those are all tame compared to Space Mountain.
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Yes. But then across and many years
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ago, we. Went making credit coaster then
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because that one goes upside down.
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Right. So here's The funny thing is we
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took Logan when he was probably about 10 years old and that's
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when California Adventure had come.
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And so, yeah, I did Soren over California, which was perfectly
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fine. But I but the the the roller
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coasters, Pokey is huge into those.
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And she did all that with Logan because I was like, Nope, you're
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not getting me on that. Yeah, but I, but I mean there
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are like as a kid when so you had the zipper is when we were
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kids at the fair, you had the yo-yo.
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And the the Ring of Fire or super loop.
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It was the Super loop when. I.
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Love that I would ride that thing over and over.
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No, no, none of that. None of that.
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None of that. Thanks.
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Thanks to Space Mountain. Took it right.
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Took it right. You know, I still, I still, I
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still drive like a bat out of hell, you know?
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But I, but I can't. Can't get on those fast moving
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rides anymore. And and having it go and have it
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go have it go backwards either I just get that kind of crap so
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but do. You think you would be fine on
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Guardians of the Galaxy Because that's a drop ride?
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Did you ride? That I got drop.
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So, so universal. They used to have the Jurassic
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Park, so I did that one where you drop.
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What's the one? Oh my gosh, it's not Matterhorn,
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it's the other one. It's the it's the one where you
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get wet. Splash Mountain.
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Splash Mountain. Yeah, yeah.
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No, no, I've been on. I've been.
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I've been on. The Galaxy is just you go up and
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then you just drop. I mean, you're dropping.
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Yeah, those are those are fun. I mean, so, but yeah, if you're
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talking Mr. Toad's my favorite as an adult, Indiana Jones is
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super cool. I had a buddy, sadly, he passed
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away. His name was Bob.
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He he had been on it thousands of times.
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So he had a year pass, even though he lived in Lewiston, he
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would fly down about every three weeks and go to Disneyland.
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That was his one place. He had a yearly pass.
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And then he just rode Indiana Jones all weekend when he was
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there. And so he had, and there was
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some little old lady that apparently got the award that
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was ahead of him that ended up getting the award.
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And he was always in competition with this little old lady who
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ended up getting. Hilarious.
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But she lives there. She lives in Anaheim and goes,
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yeah. I see.
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I follow a lot of the influencers that actually live
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there and have the season passes and they go every single day.
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And and and. Yep, and they get awards and
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different. Things and then during COVID
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like they were losing their minds.
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I bet, I bet. I think it's, I think it's
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fascinating too that that you have like, like you said, you
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have the hardcore people that go every single day and then you
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have people that live in Anaheim that have never gone.
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Like no that are probably super irritated and hate the fact that
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they have to deal with all these tourists all the time like
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interrupting their daily lives. So so have you guys done Disney
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World? Yes we did one time.
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That was almost 10 years ago actually was about 11:00-ish,
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11-12 ish. So what do you what do you like?
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What do you? No, I've never Disneyland is all
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I ever did when I was a kid. So but and then Logan a couple
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times. So I mean, I probably I might
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have been six times maybe in my life.
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I mean, it's not like I've gone to Disneyland, Disneyland a lot.
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But so do you prefer Disney World or Disneyland?
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Disneyland because it's easier to get around.
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Disney World is so massive and you know, each land or world is
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so big. It's really hard to, you know,
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if you're in Magic Kingdom one day, but then you want to go to
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Hollywood Studios or whatever it is the next day or Animal
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Kingdom, you have to take this bus and this and that.
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And so, and we just, we have gone, we go to Disneyland almost
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every year or every other year. And so we're very familiar with
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how to get around. And so I think that's part of
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it. It's just, it's just easier for
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us because we know the lay of the land.
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Basically, we know the lay of the tips and tricks.
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For, for me, it's kind of funny is my favorite because as I
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talked to my book, I did. I was very fortunate that my,
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my, my foster parents took me to California quite a few times.
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For me, Universal Studios in the in the late 70s, early 80s where
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you could like there was Kit and there was Battlestar Galactica.
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And I have always been, I've always been fascinated on, on
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how they make movies and TV sitcoms and, and all of those on
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all those things. So for me, when I've done the
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when I've done the Southern California thing, I always hit
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up Universal Studios because it's just absolutely one of my
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one of my favorites. Well, my first time going to
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Disneyland wasn't until I was 18 because my parents obviously
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couldn't afford to take us or didn't take us or whatever.
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So as an adult, and yeah, I'm turning to this child when I go
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there, probably because I didn't get to go there as a child and
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it kind of irritates Shaylee now that she's older.
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The last time we went, you see one of the characters like, Oh
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my God, it's Tigger. And I mean, that's literally how
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I react. And she'll just go.
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It's just a person in a costume. Oh my gosh, it's.
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Like I'm going to smack you. I, I think it was, it was kind
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of fun because we took Logan when he was about four and then
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we took Logan when he was 10. So we got a nice span there for
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him. And then I, and then I took him
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when he was 13, when I was in Bakersfield and he was the
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biggest pill ever. Like, no, he, I, he was, I think
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he was mad about the divorce. No, no, no, it's funny.
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It's interesting now because you know, he's 31 years old and 3031
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years old. And we went out to lunch one
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time and he goes, he goes, Dad, you know what my biggest regret
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is? And I said, what's that?
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He goes, when I came to California to visit you, he goes
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and you took me to Disneyland and I refuse to do anything.
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He goes. He goes.
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He goes, he goes, I was at Disneyland.
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I was at Disneyland. Why didn't I?
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And he did. He was such a jerk.
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Like, I'm like, don't you want to go on a ride?
20:17
No. Do you want to do this?
20:18
No. So we literally didn't do
20:19
anything in Disneyland. Yeah.
20:22
I mean, I I mean, and he was, and it was just, and he was, and
20:24
he was pissy about it. He was not just about not
20:27
wanting to do anything. He was pissy about it, and it's
20:30
kind of funny to see him at 31 go, you know, dude, I, I
20:33
remember, you know, not being, you know, Yeah, you're in
20:37
Disneyland. Dude.
20:38
Right, so the. Happiest place on Earth?
20:40
It is the happiest place on Earth, so supposed.
20:43
To be. Yeah, so I mean, he was, I mean,
20:45
it's funny, I talked to Logan a lot these days or I've talked to
20:48
Logan a lot and he goes, I don't remember any of my childhood.
20:50
I'm like, what are you talking about?
20:52
So we which is. Surprising, because usually
20:54
people who have good childhoods remember them.
20:57
People who don't. Well, he says he had a horrible,
20:59
he says he has a horrible childhood, but he says he had a
21:02
horrible childhood. But one of the things that we
21:04
did for him, so when he was, gosh, when he was 10, or I think
21:08
it was 4 or 10, one of the one of the trips we made, we did the
21:11
entire run of Southern California.
21:13
So we saved up. His mom and I saved up $4000
21:17
back when $4000 was a lot of money.
21:19
And we did. We did Knott's Berry Farm, we
21:21
did Universal Studios, we did Disneyland, we did the San Diego
21:25
Zoo, we did SeaWorld, we did the whole run.
21:28
We went to Hollywood. So I've been at Hollywood and
21:30
Vine. I've been those.
21:31
Now, I have not been in a billion years, but we literally
21:34
did the whole Southern. We took 10 days when he was a
21:38
little kid and did the whole Southern Cal.
21:39
He went to the wax museum. It was so funny as we had saved
21:43
so much money for this thing that, that, that the cool thing
21:46
was it was like we didn't spend the money we thought we were
21:49
going to spend. So we each and said, oh, you can
21:51
buy whatever you want because we saved up the money.
21:54
And it's amazing when you actually have all that money.
21:56
You really, there's nothing like like coats and jackets and
21:59
shoes. And we didn't buy any of those
22:01
things because, yeah, we could have, but we decided we, you
22:04
know, so but he got to do that entire run.
22:07
And to this day he's like, I don't, I don't remember it.
22:09
I don't, I don't recall doing any of that.
22:12
I'm like, how can you not? I think he's, I think.
22:14
He's bullshit and he was 10 at that time.
22:16
He was either. He was, yeah.
22:18
He was probably 10, yeah. He should.
22:21
I mean usually you don't form memories until you're 3 or 4, so
22:24
I could see him not remembering when he was 4, but at 10 he
22:28
should at least remember most of that trip.
22:31
He was, he told me. He goes.
22:32
Fun parts of the trip. No, he goes, Jed.
22:34
He goes. I went to Disneyland without you
22:36
and I went, no, you didn't. And he's like, yeah, yeah, I
22:39
did. You were.
22:40
He goes. You weren't.
22:40
You were never around. And I said there's a photo of me
22:43
and your mom and Cheryl and Jen and you at Disneyland at 10
22:46
years old. And so I had to pull out this
22:49
photo because he just goes, I didn't.
22:50
I don't remember you on this trip.
22:52
You weren't there. That's crazy.
22:55
So anyway, so yeah, favorite. Yeah.
22:57
So, so yeah. Oh, and you know, just so
23:01
Disneyland, I know that that that's a that's a special place
23:04
for a lot of people. Yes, and we didn't take our kids
23:08
until they were old, until they were tall enough to ride all the
23:11
rides. So you can actually cut their
23:12
own this. One like 5-6 years old but now
23:16
that we have this new grandbaby for their first yes for their
23:20
first birthday, I do want to take them and so when I told my
23:25
son he said hey we didn't get to go and so we.
23:28
Were granddaddy that's different.
23:29
That's right, I said, you're my child, this is my grandchild and
23:33
there's no rules. Rules don't apply now like.
23:35
Grandbaby going every year. I don't care that's.
23:38
Right. That's right.
23:39
If I want to take them now when they're four months old, they
23:42
could go. But yeah.
23:44
But we even did. We even did when we did our
23:46
California run all those years ago, we even did the breakfast,
23:49
character breakfast. I mean we.
23:50
We love, we do the character breakfast every year.
23:53
Yeah, we shot for the moon. Like, yeah, we, yeah, we bought,
23:56
we went to a travel agency. We bought, we bought a big
23:59
package basically. So we went to the travel agency
24:01
and said, OK, we want to hit up all these attractions.
24:05
And so they gave us a number and that's that's what we did.
24:08
So yeah. So and then and then to have
24:11
your kid not remember any of it, it's like, OK, I'm sorry.
24:14
Oh no, but but I remember my own childhood getting to go.
24:18
Now of course, when when we got adopted out, we didn't do any
24:22
just. So yeah, that all.
24:23
Stopped. So no, I'm in the same.
24:25
No, I suddenly went from from and that that was the IT I it's
24:30
hard. I think that would be a super
24:32
shocking. Especially yes, I struggled can
24:36
can I struggled with it by the fact that that you have these
24:39
one and it's not a it's not about the money.
24:41
It had nothing to do with money. It's.
24:42
Not about getting to go to Disneyland or any.
24:44
Other no, no. It's just that it was so weird
24:48
that being in the school play, playing T-ball, all these
24:53
things, being in band, because I was in band for one year.
24:56
I was in band for one year. I got to do all these things
25:00
because of these wonderful foster parents.
25:02
And even and even I'll even give my real dad credit in fifth
25:05
grade when we remember in the book, we moved back together for
25:08
one year. I was in band.
25:10
So I had my I had my drum set, you know, so, so for that year,
25:14
that was a pretty good year with with all my brothers and
25:16
siblings, with all my siblings together.
25:18
It's when we got when we got adopted out where it just went
25:20
and and talk about it. One thing was weird because it
25:26
was weird being going from I was actually a fairly popular kid in
25:29
elementary school, like or at least cool enough.
25:33
I mean cool enough, you know, I wouldn't say popular, but but no
25:36
one, no one picked on me. No one bothered me.
25:38
I was a cool kid. I, you know, because of my
25:41
foster parents. I mean, I, I had good clothes,
25:43
you know, I was well taken care of.
25:45
Wasn't like I looked like a schlub or anything.
25:47
And I didn't stink or anything. And then and then for me, it was
25:50
such a drastic turn of events to be like you said, your
25:54
environment makes you who you are and getting shoved into that
25:58
environment and then suddenly you become that environment.
26:00
And I and I, that was my hardest struggle more than anything else
26:03
is this through that whole thing, I was like, this isn't
26:05
me. This isn't.
26:06
This isn't who I am. Or this isn't how life is a or
26:10
how kids should be treated. I mean, you know, but don't
26:15
know. I mean, for you, you experience
26:17
where for me, I just saw it through going to stay the night
26:21
at my friend's house or my grandparents.
26:24
I only saw it through that where you experienced and then it was
26:29
yanked away from you when you were put in this environment.
26:32
Right. And so, and that's, and that's
26:34
one of the interesting things that, that it's so interesting
26:36
is because once I, once I had that the adopted parents, I
26:38
remember being pulled aside so many times in that hole that
26:42
those years and being told you're arrogant, you know,
26:46
you're cocky, all these different things.
26:48
And I, and I always looked at it was confidence.
26:50
They had, they had given me confidence, you know, that I,
26:53
that I could achieve or do anything I wanted to do in my
26:56
life. And my, and whatever I picked to
26:57
do is my, my, my, as long as you're a good person, that's all
27:00
that mattered to them. And you'll be president.
27:02
You're going to be president, Right, right.
27:04
And they, and they told me that they, they filled my mind with
27:07
all yeah, whatever, whatever you want to achieve, you can achieve
27:11
it. And then to have someone turn
27:12
around and just tear that house down.
27:15
So, so I understand the want to, to take your kids to Disneyland
27:19
and to share those experiences. It's, I think it's, it's not
27:23
even about the money. It's the importance of just.
27:27
It's those memories, as long as they remember.
27:31
Right. Well, yeah.
27:32
And it's like, and it's one of those things where for me and
27:34
Logan, I, hey, I guess I kind of messed up a little bit, but I
27:37
wanted to give him a, a normal as possible childhood.
27:40
Great. Yeah.
27:41
So of course. I, I mean, yeah, and, and it did
27:45
kind of fall apart, I guess in his early teen years.
27:48
But up until then it was, I mean, up until then he did.
27:52
We even went to the what's the jousting thing?
27:55
Oh, the medieval times. Yes, Logan's been to me.
27:58
Logan's been to me. I mean, he's been, he's been to
28:01
all these places and then they have to say I don't remember any
28:04
of it. So.
28:06
Dang. I know.
28:07
I mean, I guess, I guess you're going to have to take him again
28:08
as a 30 year. Old I I so, so I did think about
28:11
that. I thought about, you know, I
28:13
thought one of the Christmas presents I've thought about.
28:15
That's what we do. We.
28:16
Don't buy presents. We go on a trip and it doesn't
28:20
have to be expensive. It could just be Silverwood so
28:22
that it's making those memories together.
28:24
It's not about just getting stuff.
28:29
I know, I wonder. I wonder how it makes sense.
28:31
Yeah. Yeah.
28:31
So. So I thought, well, maybe we'll
28:33
do that. Done that, you know.
28:34
But I still, I still root for you to put your put your ashes
28:37
in the small world water there. I think you should now.
28:40
I'm going to be fireworks. That's changed.
28:43
I love that. Well, and, and I there are
28:45
interesting things. So Kiss, the rock band Kiss, you
28:49
know, they once put their blood in a comic book they made.
28:53
There's a Kiss comic book from the 1970s, and they used their
28:56
blood in the mix of the ink, which is kind of cool.
28:59
That's kind of interesting. Which you can have ashes mixed
29:02
into a tattoo ink and then have a.
29:04
Tattoo run so many, there's so many different things.
29:06
There was a comic book writer who sadly passed away at cancer
29:08
like at 45 and his ashes is mixed in a comic book run of his
29:12
different things like that. So, all right, so I guess we'll
29:15
mark you down for some fireworks.
29:17
OK, OK. Well I bought myself Mariners.
29:20
Hopefully I can get it open treat last week so we're going
29:26
to do an unboxing I. Bought this unboxing.
29:28
I know when you agreed to this podcast you didn't expect you'd
29:31
have to sit through an unboxing. Well, I want to see an unboxing
29:35
while you eat a salad. Oh my gosh.
29:37
No, no. Like a tock TikTok video big.
29:41
Easy. Hey guys watch us eat dinner.
29:43
Rick's eating steak and and are little.
29:46
Kids watching other little kids play with toys I just yeah, we
29:49
missed the boat on a. Lot of this.
29:51
The YouTube, No, the YouTube channel where you're watching
29:53
somebody else play a video game. Yeah, yes, Come on.
29:57
OK, OK, here's. The box.
29:58
Let's see, for those of you that have video, those of you that
30:01
don't, Rick's just going to have to.
30:04
Am I going to recognize it? Look at look at the cute little
30:07
tissue and label. OK, well, yeah, it's it's
30:11
Mariner merch. I treated myself to this last
30:14
week when they were. Imagine is it like a Louis
30:16
Vuitton's Mariner's purse or something?
30:20
No. Better not be Foo.
30:22
Foo. I hope it's cute.
30:23
Of course it is. It's like a blingy little
30:26
Mariners hat. Oh, yeah, There you go.
30:28
Bling. Yeah, you got the rhinestone.
30:30
OK, Reba. Oh, my gosh.
30:32
Everything is rhinestone. You haven't seen the back of my
30:34
computer. That's cool.
30:37
Cute. Yeah.
30:38
So I got that off of Etsy. I bought it.
30:39
It's not an endorsement. Didn't get it for free.
30:43
Yeah, it's all. Blingy, I love it.
30:45
I love it. That thing's gonna.
30:46
That thing's gonna. If you ever go to a Mariners
30:48
game, that thing's gonna light up.
30:49
Yes, but they also do all different teams, so it's not
30:54
just the Mariners. That's cool.
30:55
Let me. See let me see if their name is
30:57
on here so I can at least like give them a shout.
30:59
Out. Yeah, I bought this.
31:01
Yeah, but I can't read. Hold on, let me let me see the.
31:05
I can't read that because I don't.
31:06
Get your get your old person glasses on because you're
31:09
getting old the. Room.
31:10
I don't have them on. Oh, sporty sparkles, that's
31:14
what. Sporty.
31:14
Sparkles. OK, Etsy.
31:16
Yeah, so Eddie team, they could bling up whatever.
31:18
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not putting that on my
31:21
Dallas Cowboys. You touch.
31:22
I'm not putting rhinestones on my Dallas Cowboys.
31:25
No, that'd be cute. Do you?
31:28
Oh, yeah. So do you have a jersey like a
31:32
Seattle Seahawks jersey? Yeah, I have a Seahawks.
31:34
I'm a couple Seahawks jerseys, so right.
31:37
Yeah. Are you a bigger?
31:38
Are you a bigger football fan or a baseball fan?
31:40
Baseball dumb. OK all.
31:41
Right. That's why you and Todd and your
31:43
dad. OK, I got you.
31:44
OK, I got you. Definitely.
31:45
Like I barely know any of the rules are football logic
31:50
compared to baseball, so yeah. Oh, let's see.
31:54
Yeah. For me, for me it, for me, it's
31:56
football for sure. It's.
31:57
Soccer. Because my son played soccer.
32:00
I knew nothing about soccer until he started playing soccer,
32:03
and now at least I know you know more about it and flopping and
32:06
red cards and yellow cards and all that.
32:09
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's like I think, I think
32:13
in my. Sports is gibberish to you.
32:15
Wasn't. It well, I think in my sports
32:17
hierarchy, it's football number one that is my fave and then
32:21
there's baseball and then there's basketball and I like
32:24
golfing and bowling for some reason.
32:27
She's like and I will watch some poker on occasion.
32:30
Is so boring. That's all boring.
32:34
Yeah, I just can't do it. Like I am definitely off this.
32:38
Mariners lost. Not going to tell you that
32:40
baseball is boring, even though that's not my favorite thing.
32:43
Everybody said OK, yeah, non baseball loving people are
32:46
always baseball. So boring.
32:47
We do. It's like, you know what, it can
32:50
be a little yes, yes, it can be long and it could have this
32:54
little lulls. And now I think we're all just
32:57
an instant gratification society.
32:59
So it makes it worse. The dogs agree with me.
33:02
They agree with you. Yeah, they're all.
33:04
They're all over it. They're all over it.
33:07
Yeah, I think, I think and I like, I like baseball too.
33:10
But I think, yeah, I think maybe just if it had 77 innings
33:15
sparkly. Are they good?
33:18
Are they good now? Is their mailman gone UPS guy?
33:21
FedEx guy, I don't know what it was, I don't know what it is,
33:24
don't what it is. It's OK, It's all right.
33:27
Well, but. Makes for a good podcast.
33:29
What about hockey? Well, do you like hockey?
33:31
I do, but I don't know that much, and especially now that
33:34
Seattle has a team. Before Seattle had a team, it
33:37
was the Vegas Golden Knights, right?
33:40
But I don't know a lot about hockey.
33:44
I know that you got to get the puck in.
33:46
You know the nut, right? Well, I know that, but.
33:49
You should come to the Tri-cities.
33:51
There's a penalty box. You should come.
33:53
That's all I know you. Should come to the Tri-cities
33:55
because we have the Americans, of course.
33:56
We're the Tri-City Americans, so.
33:57
Yes, I would like to go to a Kraken game.
34:00
I do think that would be super fun, so, but I just need to go
34:03
with someone who can explain to me what the Hell's going on in
34:06
case I don't know. So yeah.
34:09
Well, I like I like your new hat.
34:10
Nice, nice nice addition to the collection.
34:13
Cheer me up. Yeah, probably won't wear it
34:16
until baseball season starts back up in the springtime.
34:19
What do you think? I mean, is it is it kind of
34:21
like, so is it kind of like football, sadly, where you're
34:24
going to start basically from Ground Zero and you just don't
34:26
know where you're going to be next year?
34:27
Because usually what happens if, because usually what happens if
34:30
football team. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
34:32
Usually with football, if it's a good, if it's a good year and
34:35
they get to the Super Bowl or the playoffs or whatever, then
34:37
suddenly all the best players are going to get poached by
34:39
other teams. I.
34:40
Mean they will keep well, hopefully.
34:43
I mean they can't. They could trade whoever, but
34:46
I'm thinking like Julio Cal Raleigh, although the the big
34:50
players and big stars will stay, but there's no guarantee with
34:54
any of them. So yeah, they could all get
34:56
traded, shuffled around, you name it.
35:00
Well, and again you have. To wait and see.
35:03
And you can't predict anything even if you've got the same
35:06
team. No, no, all I know is I'm a
35:09
Dodgers fan. I know that they.
35:11
Need to beat the blue which hello, they have a tawny.
35:15
So even if the Mariners would have gone to the World Series,
35:19
we totally would have lost. I'm sorry that is reality.
35:22
So. I was laughing.
35:23
The Dodgers. Are it right now?
35:26
Yeah, I was laughing because everybody on their Facebook that
35:28
that just suddenly Patty this morning goes, why is everybody
35:31
saying they're Dodgers fans? I'm like because they want.
35:35
The Blue Jays to live. Yeah, yeah.
35:38
There's it's a revenge. It's revenge.
35:40
That's why they're all, that's why they're all Dodgers fans.
35:42
And she was like, oh, OK. I was like, yeah, she goes, she
35:44
goes, why were they a Mariner fan yesterday and Dodgers today?
35:47
I'm like, because they want the Blue Jays to lose.
35:49
So. But it was good.
35:51
It was good. Yeah, All right, let's move on.
35:54
I read that Toys-R-Us is making a comeback.
35:59
They're opening 30 new stores across the country.
36:02
I looked at the map and unfortunately the closest one to
36:05
us is in California. So I was a little bit sad about
36:08
that. But hopefully maybe if they do
36:12
well, they might open more. And then one closer to us is
36:15
what I'm thinking and what I'm hoping.
36:18
Well, they were bought out. I'm sure they were bought out.
36:20
They were bought out by. Bankrupt.
36:22
Yeah, they went bankrupt and got bought out by Macy's.
36:24
And so a few of Macy's had them inside the store.
36:26
Very little stuff, but they still have the brand inside the
36:29
store. But these are.
36:30
Going to be standalone stores. Are is it?
36:33
Are we just asking for it again? I don't know.
36:36
I hope not. I hope we've learned our lesson.
36:39
Well, I'm not. Going to let it go by the
36:41
wayside. Again, I think I think the
36:43
biggest lesson is OK for me in all these situations, stop
36:48
paying your CEO so much crap and money and quit taking.
36:53
Not. Necessary and, and take it on,
36:55
you know, no, I don't care. I don't care what you're
36:57
running. No guy needs to make $30 million
36:59
a year. I mean, I just don't understand.
37:01
I just don't understand that mentality.
37:03
And then and then brick and mortar, you know, brick and
37:05
mortar is so expensive because you got to have and all that.
37:09
So I for me, I, I enjoyed KB toys back in the day.
37:15
Oh Mervyn's. I would love to see Mervyn's
37:16
come. Mervyn's that.
37:17
Is the OG I would want to see come back?
37:20
So I think, I think Megan's first job was at Mervyn's.
37:23
I think she was at Mervyn's. She used to work at Mervyn's
37:25
back in. The day left of their clothes,
37:26
like their kids clothes and clothes like the quality was
37:29
great. Like yes, you.
37:31
Didn't work at Mervyn's Oh. Oh, did she know?
37:34
She didn't love it. Oh, sorry, I mean.
37:36
She didn't love it. Oh, OK.
37:38
She worked at Mervyn's. She didn't love it.
37:41
Hey, someone was asking for guest stars in the pod.
37:42
There you go, podcast. There you go, that's the guest.
37:45
We need to see her like she needs to pop in and say that.
37:50
She loves it when she loves it when I put words in her mouth.
37:55
She. Loved it.
37:56
Just like my husband loves her, my kids, yeah, they love it,
37:59
Yeah. I think we had a Mervyn's a
38:02
credit card back in the day. That's I do recall that.
38:04
Yeah, everybody did. Yeah.
38:06
Well, we, we're coming from so coming from Lewiston and
38:08
Clarkson, though of course there's no Mervyn's.
38:10
So when we moved to Seattle in the late 90s, that's when we
38:13
first discovered Mervyn's. So and Nordstrom's and
38:16
Nordstrom's and all, you know, all and all that.
38:18
Because in my small town of Lewis and Clarkson, none of
38:21
that, you know, they had like we had a Penny's and a Sears and
38:23
Kmart. That was about it.
38:24
Yeah, Montgomery Wards. So yeah, I hope they, I hope to
38:26
make a run at it. I know that Kennewick had it
38:29
used to have a big Toys-R-Us store right there at the mall.
38:31
Yeah. So right now it's Spirit
38:33
Halloween, So we'll see. George Santos was pardoned by
38:39
Trump this week. What do you think about that?
38:41
I'm excited because that means his Cameo videos will probably
38:44
return. And I did love his Cameo video.
38:47
One of my son's friend got one for his birthday.
38:50
For George Santos. Me, I sent it to me to, for me
38:53
to watch. So I, I, that's the only reason
38:56
I'm excited about it. I, I just think it's, I, I think
39:00
pardoning Diddy. R Kelly, George Santos, Diddy.
39:04
'S next to. Get the pardon any of I I I just
39:07
don't. Know Maxwell?
39:08
I yeah, Maxwell, whatever her name is for Epstein and all
39:12
that. I just, you know me how I feel
39:13
about it. It's like you do the crime, you
39:15
do the time and and and I just, I cannot believe how many people
39:21
just don't believe the facts in situations.
39:24
If you are convicted of something, the odds are so.
39:27
So I'll ask you this. Have you ever sat on a?
39:30
Have you ever sat on a jury, Michelle?
39:32
No, I get disqualified all the time because of what I did for
39:36
work when we worked at the radio station.
39:39
Really. I got jury duty like 4 times and
39:42
I would go and I'd be super excited about it because I'd be
39:46
like, yeah, I'm going to finally sit on a jury.
39:48
And then as soon as usually it's the defense, the other, not the
39:54
prosecutor, usually it's the defense.
39:55
That was like we would like her excused and which is within
40:01
reason because at the time we worked on the bowl and we would
40:05
play the news at the top of the hour from KRT.
40:08
And so that meant that I would hear the news and as a juror you
40:14
cannot watch or hear the news or any of that kind of stuff.
40:17
And so the defense would usually be like, I motion for the
40:20
whatever they say to get this juror excused.
40:23
And so then the judge would usually grant it.
40:26
There was one time that because I said what I did for a living,
40:31
once I got excused, I think it was Judge Berry here in Yakima,
40:36
then he was like super curious about what I did for a living.
40:39
And then he continued to ask me questions about my job on the
40:43
radio, even though I had just made excuse.
40:46
But he was just so curious about it, just wanted to know more
40:49
about it. And of course, I was answering
40:51
them. But yeah, like I always get
40:54
dismissed and I think it's not fair.
40:56
Well, now you could do it. Now you don't get.
40:59
Now you don't get asked. If I put like podcaster down,
41:02
yeah, I probably get the same shit.
41:04
So that's. That's interesting.
41:05
So it worked. It worked.
41:06
Have you? Oh yeah.
41:08
Yeah, I've been jury foreman number one.
41:10
I've been, I've been, I've been the foreman.
41:11
Yeah, that. Does not surprise me.
41:13
Not not surprising at all. So, so yeah, so interesting.
41:17
So why? Why I strongly believe I served
41:21
on a jury and we found our person not guilty.
41:25
So, so to me, it's like I, I, and it's the only time I've ever
41:28
served on a jury. I'd love to do it again sometime
41:30
in the future, but it's like, it's like, I believe, I believe
41:34
in the system, you know, you the, you know, and it was
41:37
interesting that ours was a stalking case.
41:41
So and, and I was the same thing as you.
41:43
I was, I was there and, and they go, what do you do for a living
41:46
Now I'm on the radio. What station that of course the
41:48
judge asked me lots of questions about radio.
41:50
Yeah, there's too many goes about it, but they go, but they
41:52
go, there's no reason why you can't serve on the jury.
41:54
And they put, they seated me on the jury and that was the jury
41:57
forum. And I was juror, juror #1 so and
42:00
then, and then, of course, we had everybody else on there.
42:02
And it was interesting. It was a stalking case.
42:05
It was an ex-boyfriend or an ex-boyfriend that had a
42:09
restraining order or an order to stay away from this person.
42:12
Well, it was interesting in the trial is the sister we did not.
42:19
The sister was the one like he went into Walgreens and she
42:22
chased him out of Walgreens. She's like, you know, and the
42:26
the person, the complaint or the, the the other sister who
42:29
was supposedly stalked wasn't nowhere around.
42:32
So you had this sister. So you had this sister who was
42:35
going well, he drives by her house all but you know, so we
42:37
just didn't find her, her testimony credible or she was
42:41
what we felt was an overreaction.
42:43
Right. So, so they lived in the same,
42:46
they lived in the same area. So it wasn't and the girlfriend
42:51
lived on a busy St. It wasn't like she lived on the
42:54
highway. It wasn't like.
42:56
So it wasn't like she's in this dead.
42:58
End right, right. So we put it all together and
43:01
then the day that he was supposedly supposed to supposed
43:04
to be doing whatever he was supposed to be doing, he was
43:06
moving his mom, his mom got on the stage and said my son was
43:09
moving me, blah, blah, blah. So anyway, we found him not
43:13
guilty. And then what they do after, and
43:15
it was interesting. After the after you do your
43:17
thing, the judge comes back later and goes, why?
43:20
Why did you guys decide the way you did?
43:22
So even that's the thing you don't see is after you wrap up
43:25
the case, you you give your verdict, then you get shuttled
43:28
off. The judge will come in
43:29
afterwards and go, hey, why did you guys do do what you did?
43:34
And we and and we and and again, they always say beyond a
43:37
reasonable doubt. And so and so we all on the jury
43:40
said, you know, do we think he was sketchy?
43:43
Yeah, we. But you can't convict somebody
43:46
from being sketchy. We can't convince right you we
43:49
we did not have verifiable proof that he had done any of these
43:53
things, that he was done. Now he might have, but there was
43:58
no, there was no verifiable proof.
44:00
And so we found him not guilty. And so I'm kind of a, I'm kind
44:04
of a fan of the fact that you are convicted by your peers.
44:08
I do, you know, you hope you get a, you hope you get a fair, you
44:12
get a fair trial and a fair jury.
44:14
And the fact that you are ultra rich or super rich is
44:19
ridiculous. And we all know that that does
44:21
play a factor into all this. Definitely, because if you're
44:24
rich, you can hire the best defense attorney.
44:27
If you're poor, you're getting the public defender who's making
44:31
80 grand a year. And do you think they're and
44:33
they're overloaded with cases at this stage of the game, I.
44:36
I I don't think and I don't care.
44:38
I don't care. I don't care if it's Republican
44:40
or Democrat. I don't think the president
44:42
should have the power to pardon people.
44:44
Well, that was going to be my that that's what I was going to
44:47
say. That power should go away.
44:49
Yeah, because they, it's abused on all sides, Republican,
44:53
Democrats and whatever their process is to pardon someone
44:57
varies. But what I don't like is now
45:01
like George, take George for example, liar.
45:05
Well, no. So like the restitution goes
45:08
away as well. And so those people that he owes
45:11
money to, it's gone. They don't get repaid.
45:16
But people or. Even a chance, you know, maybe
45:18
they might not have ever never gotten repaid, but at least
45:21
there was something you know that was going to force him to
45:24
at least pay X amount or whatever it was, you know but I.
45:28
Paycheck, but I've always had so here's you know it and I've
45:31
always had issues. You already know.
45:34
Maybe it's because maybe because you and I both grew up poor.
45:36
So I've got issues by the fact that it's funny in, in one of
45:40
the Batman movies, the Joker or one of the villains steals all
45:44
of his money and, and Catwoman goes and Catwoman goes even the
45:50
even the rich don't go broke. You know what I'm saying?
45:52
Because he still had assets, you know what I'm saying?
45:54
He still had his hat. I mean, he, he's broke
45:57
technically on paper, but he still had money.
45:59
And she goes and she goes, she goes figures the rich, the rich
46:02
don't go broke. And so when I look at
46:04
contractors who screw people out of money, when I see these
46:08
stories, when people embezzle or all these bad things as they,
46:11
that they do, nothing happens to them.
46:15
Their shit, their cars, their houses.
46:17
When you look at Alex Jones right now, this $2.5 billion,
46:21
you know, settlement, this shit is, he's still in AI, don't care
46:25
what they say. He still is in a big house.
46:27
He, he still has his shit. You know, Rudy Giuliani, the,
46:31
the My Pillow guy, you name any of them George, you name any of
46:35
these people, come take their shit, make them bankrupt, make
46:41
them have nothing. You know, because you're right.
46:44
If if if it happened to you and I, it may be done.
46:47
Yeah. I mean it, it'd be done.
46:50
Running in jail like we wouldn't be out.
46:52
Basically, these wouldn't be out.
46:53
And so, so I, I, I think that that's one of the powers for
46:56
both for just period. Sorry, Mr. Pres, sorry if you're
46:59
the president, you don't get to, you don't get to pardon people.
47:02
Yeah, I think it's a biased. I think it's a biased thing.
47:05
Well, and again, each one of them is different on how they
47:08
come to pardoning XYZ person making that decision.
47:12
And so I think it's definitely it's definitely overly used and
47:18
abused at this stage of the game and it should just go away
47:21
completely. I don't understand why it's
47:24
there. Well, even from the even from
47:26
the Diddy thing, you're he's convicted.
47:28
The mofo is convicted as Perry, as Pierre said, you did these
47:33
things and he escaped. The harsher, you know, the, the
47:37
harsher stuff, OK, and. Serving what, four years or?
47:40
Right. And, and, and that and again,
47:42
that is up to the jury to decide.
47:44
The jury decided that, OK, we think something was going on.
47:47
We don't have all the answers, right.
47:50
So we're going to convict you on what we we have.
47:53
We're going to convict you on what we know and that what?
47:56
The jury is supposed to. Do beyond a reasonable doubt.
47:58
So beyond a reasonable doubt, they know that the two things
48:00
they convicted them on, he did the other stuff you didn't get
48:03
convicted on. So there you go.
48:05
And then when we see videos of this abuse and all these things
48:10
that happen, I mean, I look back, I look back to the Chris
48:13
Brown and Rihanna thing. It's like, why do they get a
48:17
pass? Oh, well, they have money and
48:19
they can buy themselves out and all this.
48:21
And so that does not make it, that does not make it fair.
48:24
And how well he's done. It doesn't make it fair and
48:27
equitable. And then and then for me, I just
48:30
struggle with because people defend it.
48:32
People defend it and I know it. We're not going to get
48:34
political. But I feel the same way about
48:37
about Democrats too. If that Epstein list comes out
48:40
and your ass is on it, you know what I'm saying?
48:42
You just go to. Jail.
48:43
I'm definitely 1000% I don't care who is on this list.
48:48
I don't. Yeah, this this whole argument,
48:51
this whole argument that Lib libs, you know, want to protect
48:54
libs or, you know, no, no, not at all.
48:56
No, you commit a crime, you go to jail.
49:00
And, and I and I want and I want repercussions, not just that you
49:03
go to jail, your shit gets taken away.
49:07
I mean, I just don't, I don't cuz you know, Diddy, he's going
49:09
to be and I'm Diddy. Hey, sorry, Diddy's going to be
49:11
out in 48 months. Oh yeah.
49:14
And nothing changes for and nothing changes for him.
49:17
No, I mean, and look at Prince Andrew.
49:20
He just got his title taken. Yeah.
49:21
Right, but he's still, but he's still wealthy beyond the House
49:24
of Windsor is still wealthy beyond wealthy and, and, and I
49:29
and even talk, even talking about it's insane.
49:33
Even from the the the monarchy side of things.
49:35
It's like, really, I mean, you pay, you basically pay the
49:38
monarchy to, to be the goodwill ambassadors for the country
49:41
because that's what you know, they don't make decisions, they
49:43
don't make law. They're they?
49:44
Don't technically run the country.
49:46
And they don't. I know it's so many.
49:47
I always laugh when people think that the the royalty runs.
49:49
They they not know. Yeah.
49:51
It's Parliament that runs it, so so it's like they are basically
49:55
overpaid spokespeople. Yeah.
49:58
And it's, it's ridiculous. So you commit a crime, you go to
50:02
jail and you take and you and you make the repercussions
50:07
devastating. So you don't do those things
50:11
again there. You know, there's a few things
50:14
that the Repubs and I agree on and that one's my number, my
50:16
number one and and fiscal responsibility.
50:20
Fiscal responsibility and the reason why, and you know what?
50:24
The reason why I say that Michelle, is because Michelle's
50:27
not out committing crimes. Rick's not out committing
50:29
crimes. So if it's so, so if I'm not, if
50:33
I'm not out committing to crime and you're not out committing to
50:34
crime and other people we know aren't committing crimes, then
50:37
that means you don't have to commit crimes.
50:39
I mean, my DNA is in the police database now thanks to Shaylee,
50:42
so I can't be out murdering people and then having my DNA
50:46
now thanks to her so. I just could to take a human
50:51
life. I just could not imagine what
50:54
what switch goes off in your head because because even
50:58
killing a family bothers me so. Oh yeah, I could never go
51:02
hunting. I have a great story about my
51:04
dad and deer hunting, which we're running out of time.
51:07
I could probably save that for next our next podcast episode.
51:11
Which is why I want nothing to do with hunting.
51:14
I mean, he tried to get me into hunting, but when I was little,
51:19
I didn't listen to my mom and. Saw something you weren't
51:22
supposed to see? Yeah, it.
51:24
Wasn't good. It wasn't good.
51:26
And also we were talking about crime.
51:29
You know how podcast we had talked about me stealing and I
51:33
said I never stole again. Well, that's not true.
51:36
I thought of something. Something popped into my head
51:38
that I remember. Yeah.
51:40
So I'll have to tell the story next week.
51:42
Although I did have permission, so I don't know.
51:44
That's really stealing. Well, one time I had permission,
51:47
the other time I don't know. Anyway.
51:48
I was thinking it was so funny. Story we'll have to save for
51:51
next Yeah, at least. I mean, I talk about, in my
51:53
book, we'll talk about, let's talk about stealing next time
51:55
because it is funny. I was, I, I jogged my memory by
51:58
the fact that in my book, I talked about getting in trouble
52:01
and, and getting picked up with the police office, Police
52:04
Department, you know, and, and my, and my one time that I
52:07
supposedly stole something, I look back, I'm like, no, there
52:10
was a couple times I got away with it, you know, but no, no,
52:14
no, I'm saying, but, but I mean, after that, I never did it ever
52:17
again. Like that was it.
52:19
So my, my life of crime was only a short, short, very short lived
52:24
and very embarrassed by it. But I was looking back, like,
52:27
no, there was a couple times where I kind of got away with
52:30
it. And that's not then I tried it
52:31
the last time and got caught and that was the end of it.
52:33
But yeah, so that's going to be a good, that'll be a good
52:35
podcast. And then almost before we leave,
52:38
one of the suggestions I saw that someone said we should get
52:40
some guests. Oh, who said that?
52:43
That was in one of the one of the comments.
52:45
So I was thinking like well. I'd like to know who that was,
52:48
and I'm just kidding. In one in down, down in the
52:50
comments, like we should do some interviews.
52:51
So I'm like, OK, so think about that in the future.
52:54
Like who would would would you like?
52:57
Who would you like the line up to, you know?
52:59
Yeah, who with is within our scope that we can get to be a
53:03
guest on there's. A few.
53:04
I mean, I mean, there's a few people.
53:06
I was thinking that, not that I'm going to throw some.
53:08
I'm not that I'm name dropping, but.
53:11
Who you are? From entertainment wise we could
53:14
maybe Sir mix a lot. James Otto, Who's the country *
53:19
If you. Never know connections to him
53:20
that's going to have to. Be on your own.
53:22
Many, many years ago we had Richard Page, of course, from
53:24
Mr. Mr. Remember, we interviewed him.
53:26
But I'm just throwing a couple names out there.
53:28
I mean, I'm sure if we dug around we could probably get
53:31
some D minus celeb on this this podcast.
53:34
Yeah, I mean, Sir, Sir, mix blouse, not D minor.
53:37
No, no, no, no, no. Those are all good.
53:39
Just so you know, those those, those are all a those are all
53:41
good. Ones you just listed aren't.
53:43
No, those are all good. Those are all good to go for us,
53:45
but I'm just I mean or good would be good to go.
53:47
But you know, I mean, definitely we could definitely, I, I
53:51
talked, I thought about trying to get Micah on here so.
53:54
See, I mean, we could, yeah, get the band back.
53:57
Together, you know, get or get John Taylor or somebody could
54:00
jump on this thing, steer the ship the right way for me, wrap
54:05
it up, tying off the political thing.
54:06
Everybody should be treated equally, period.
54:08
Boom. Like you do the crime, you do
54:11
the time. That's it for today's episode of
54:17
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