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Speaker 1: General, Welcome to the Late Blades, Welcome to the Late Debate.
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Speaker 1: I'm free Leach with Caroline Marcus and Jamie Rodgers coming
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Speaker 1: up tonight. Kamala Harris goes off script in her most
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Speaker 1: recent takedown of Donald Trump. Gretit Tumburg gives a tell
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Speaker 1: all interview on her time in an Israeli jail, claiming
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Speaker 1: she was starved and beaten in the face of what
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Speaker 1: hostages suffered for two years? How does anyone take her seriously?
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Speaker 1: And in the papers? The Australian Defense Force is in
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Speaker 1: discussions with the US about sending Ozzie troops to be
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Speaker 1: part of the International Stabilization Force in Gaza. But First
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Speaker 1: Markup Day is supposed to be a time for Year
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Speaker 1: twelve students to let down their hair on the last
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Speaker 1: day of year twelve. But one school, Bayview College, has
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Speaker 1: taken it so far the whole day might be scrapped.
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Speaker 1: They were having wrestling of with Flower in the school halls.
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Speaker 1: They put streamers up everywhere. You can see that on
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Speaker 1: your screens. That would take hours to clean up. They
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Speaker 1: put oil and glue on door handles. Now, Jamie, I
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Speaker 1: love a bit of fun. I love the idea that
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Speaker 1: after a stressful year doing the HC, you can have
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Speaker 1: that chance to just relax and be a kid. But
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Speaker 1: that does take it too far, I think, and it's
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Speaker 1: sad because they're can to ruin it for everyone.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right there where you want to
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Speaker 2: be able to have a bit of fun and let
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Speaker 2: your hair down, but to an extent, and I think
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Speaker 2: that is absolutely outrageous behavior because you think about the
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Speaker 2: poor cleaners and the school staff that actually have to
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Speaker 2: clean up this mess. I hope they sent the students
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Speaker 2: back in there to clean it up, because I was
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Speaker 2: looking in that article to see if what the punishment
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Speaker 2: was if the kids had to go back.
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Speaker 3: In and clean it up. I couldn't see any of that.
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Speaker 2: But it's just funny because in comparison, there's other schools
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Speaker 2: like Yeah a Valley Grammar who decided to do like
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Speaker 2: a mock of mauckup Day. So they were doing videos
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Speaker 2: where they were just turning their pages upside down and
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Speaker 2: like scribbling on their notes and dropping rubbish next to
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Speaker 2: the bin.
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Speaker 3: So that was wild for those kids, I know.
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Speaker 2: So I think, you know, black up date, you want
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Speaker 2: to have a bit of fun, but this isn't the
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Speaker 2: first time the students have made headlines for doing the
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Speaker 2: wrong thing.
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Speaker 4: Look, I grew up in Singapore and I went to
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Speaker 4: school there, and do not for a second imagine that
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Speaker 4: this would be tolerated for a minute in Singapore schools.
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Speaker 4: You would be sent off and be caned probably if
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Speaker 4: you tried to vandalize the school. So it's very much
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Speaker 4: I think an Aussie culture thing probably happens in some
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Speaker 4: of the western countries as well. I do think they
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Speaker 4: should be sent back and clean up a score. I
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Speaker 4: don't think there is ever an excuse for vandalism or
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Speaker 4: something that's going to permanently damage property on the school.
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Speaker 4: By all means, have fun and it's your last age
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Speaker 4: to celebrated.
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Speaker 5: Kids have worked incredibly hard.
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Speaker 4: But don't throw out all the good values that hopefully
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Speaker 4: the school has imparted on you if it's doing its
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Speaker 4: job properly.
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Speaker 5: But maybe it isn't. This is how the kids are
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Speaker 5: turning out.
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Speaker 1: But some schools have become so anti fun. Like at
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Speaker 1: my school, muck up Day was banned and I just
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Speaker 1: felt like, in a way we were being robbed of
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Speaker 1: that classic Ausy experience. And so I don't know did
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Speaker 1: they take it too far? Yes, but we need to
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Speaker 1: say muck up Day, this is an institution.
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Speaker 5: Well maybe you can start that campaign.
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Speaker 1: I will happily start that campaign. And actually one of
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Speaker 1: the best muck Up Day stories I've ever heard now
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Speaker 1: it was told apparently it happened at my alma mater,
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Speaker 1: but I'm not sure. Maybe an old wives tale, but
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Speaker 1: apparently someone on muck Up Day came to the school
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Speaker 1: with three chickens and they had labels around their neck, one, two,
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Speaker 1: and four. So the staff proceeded to look for chicken
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Speaker 1: number three for hours and hours and hours, and no
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Speaker 1: one knew where it was. Of course, it never existed.
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Speaker 1: So I think that's an example.
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Speaker 3: Funny, that's funny. I think that that's.
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Speaker 5: Great, but it is funny.
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Speaker 4: But I do think they're taking it to extremes, probably
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Speaker 4: because of TikTok and getting likes and the rest of it.
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Speaker 4: Speaking of other people who are out of control pro
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Speaker 4: Palestinian protesters is clearly not enough for them. That there
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Speaker 4: is a ceasefire now in Gaza. It looks like depending
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Speaker 4: on how Hamas goes in returning the remaining hostages. We'll
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Speaker 4: talk about that a bit later. Like hopefully peace may
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Speaker 4: hold there, but that's still not good enough. They want
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Speaker 4: even more rights. They have now secured a victory in
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Speaker 4: the Supreme Court of New South Wales which will essentially
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Speaker 4: allow them to protest outside of places of worship. Now
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Speaker 4: this is despite the Premier, Chris Mins, trying to push
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Speaker 4: through new protest laws after we saw what happened over
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Speaker 4: a really challenging summer of anti Semitism, which included protesters
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Speaker 4: gathering outside the Great Synagogue in the middle of the city.
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Speaker 5: This is what mister Mis had to say.
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Speaker 6: We put the laws through in good faith because we
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Speaker 6: believe that they were incredibly important for our multicultural community
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Speaker 6: and the right for people to yes demonstrate, but also
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Speaker 6: practice their faith, their religion, their community groups.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think very few people are denying these
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Speaker 4: protesters the right to protest, but it's really become a
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Speaker 4: joke about them wanting.
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Speaker 5: To take hostage.
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Speaker 4: First the Harbor Bridge, then the Opera House, which at
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Speaker 4: least three judges were wise enough to stop due to
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Speaker 4: more safety concerns. But now it's side places of worship,
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Speaker 4: and I wonder if these same people would defend other
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Speaker 4: places of worship for different religions would they be comfortable
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Speaker 4: with people protesting outside a mosque, for example? Would they
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Speaker 4: be comfortable with people protesting since since they're talking about
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Speaker 4: their freedom to protest rights, people protesting outside abortion clinics.
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Speaker 4: You know, I think it's very much specific to their cause,
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Speaker 4: even though they claim to be about everyone's freedom of speech.
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Speaker 2: You know, I found that entire situation just so frustrating.
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Speaker 2: Josh Les who is one of the organizers of this
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Speaker 2: pro Palestinian rallies and activist group, when he's out there,
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Speaker 2: he's on national television, just constantly out there broadcasting their message.
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Speaker 2: And had you asked me two years ago, I'd never
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Speaker 2: really thought about protesting out the front of a religious space.
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Speaker 2: It just never crossed my mind because we haven't been
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Speaker 2: in this situation for my lifetime anyway, and in these
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Speaker 2: past two years, what we have seen out the front
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Speaker 2: of the synagogue where in Melbourne in particular, where there
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Speaker 2: was that arson attack. Let them have their spaces, and
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Speaker 2: to your point, any of the religious spaces, whether it
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Speaker 2: is a mosque, whether it is a church, whether it
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Speaker 2: is a synagogue, this is.
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Speaker 3: A place of worship. This is a place where someone
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Speaker 3: should be able to.
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Speaker 2: Go and pray in peace. You don't want to be
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Speaker 2: having protesters out the front. That's disrupting it or making
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Speaker 2: you feel unsafe in a place that is sacred to you,
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Speaker 2: And I think that should just be completely off limits.
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Speaker 2: And when I just was watching the press conference, I thought,
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Speaker 2: why are you doing this? Why did you feel the
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Speaker 2: need to go and contest this in court. We're not
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Speaker 2: saying anti protests. You go and do your protests. You've
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Speaker 2: been doing it for two years, every single weekend. Go
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Speaker 2: and do it, but go and do it in a park.
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Speaker 2: Stop disrupting our cities, and stop trying to hijack our landmarks,
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Speaker 2: and stop trying to do it.
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Speaker 4: Also, the count doesn't it rayer because they've been saying
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Speaker 4: for the last two years we're not anti Semitic, This
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Speaker 4: isn't a problem we have with Jews. Then why do
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Speaker 4: you want to protest outside a synagogue, which is, let's face.
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Speaker 5: It, this is what it's about.
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Speaker 1: Well, that was one of the more absurd claims. I mean,
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Speaker 1: the whole case was absurd. But the organizer, Josh Lee's said, yes,
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Speaker 1: there might be anti semitism, and of course that's an issue,
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Speaker 1: but you can't claim that these protests somehow leads to
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Speaker 1: or contribute to anti Semitism. But that is just a
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Speaker 1: ridiculous idea. You just have to go to any one
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Speaker 1: of these protests anywhere around the country or even around
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Speaker 1: the Western world. Do you hear chants like all zion
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Speaker 1: Is to terrorists, from the river to the sea, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
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Speaker 1: Resistance is justified when Palestine is occupied self.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Shari showed earlier in Frits in her program tonight,
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Speaker 4: he said this two days after October seven.
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Speaker 5: Resistance is justified exactly.
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Speaker 1: So how can you then claim that that is not
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Speaker 1: going to somehow contribute to ill will towards Israel and
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Speaker 1: towards Jews, the majority of whom identify as Zionists and
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Speaker 1: for whom Israel is integral to their identity. So this
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Speaker 1: was a crazy case because yes, why would you want
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Speaker 1: to protest outside a synagogue or a church in the
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Speaker 1: first place. But also the claim that this doesn't contribute
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Speaker 1: to anti Semitism is dubious. But also where's the outrage
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Speaker 1: and protesting against Tamas? Where is any outrage about that?
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Speaker 1: Of what we've just seen, those scenes of what happened
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Speaker 1: to Palestinians within the main center in Gaza.
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Speaker 3: Where's the outrage about that?
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Speaker 5: Because there's no Jews involved in that jaxactly.
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Speaker 3: That's the bottom US spot.
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Speaker 4: Speaking of her maas it has now said it has
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Speaker 4: released all the hostage bodies that it can find, not many.
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Speaker 4: Apparently only nine bodies out of twenty eight corpses that
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Speaker 4: were still in Gaza have been returned now to Israel.
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Speaker 4: And we've seen the last couple of hostages that they've
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Speaker 4: given back, including the final female hostage in Ba Haiman
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Speaker 4: and Mohammad al ar Trush they were returned by Hermas.
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Speaker 4: You know, I think it obviously doesn't surprise me. We're
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Speaker 4: talking about a brutal terror organization here that they haven't
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Speaker 4: kept what was meant to be part of their promise
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Speaker 4: ahead of these peace negotiations. It is so disheartening obviously
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Speaker 4: for those families who would have held out hope of
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Speaker 4: being able to finally respectfully bury the bodies of their
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Speaker 4: loved ones.
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Speaker 5: But it also, I guess more more.
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Speaker 4: A likelihood of fighting to resume in Gaza if they
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Speaker 4: cannot hold up their side of the bargain.
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Speaker 2: Will Hermas have said that they need special equipment to
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Speaker 2: be able to reach more bodies, of which Isabel have
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Speaker 2: come out and said that that's rubbish. I think for me,
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Speaker 2: when they're not getting back the bodies, it still leaves
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Speaker 2: that question of doubt within the families, and that's what
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Speaker 2: I find really heartbreaking. When we will discuss this later
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Speaker 2: about the treatment of what the hostages have been facing
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Speaker 2: while they were in Gaza. But if you were the family,
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Speaker 2: you'd almost be holding on to that What if my
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Speaker 2: child is still alive and it's just kept under the
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Speaker 2: tunnels and has been mistaken to be one of these
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Speaker 2: dead bodies. But as you said, Caroline, we are dealing
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Speaker 2: with a terrorist organization and they are just stuffing around
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Speaker 2: now to try and keep this piece deal is just
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Speaker 2: tinkering on the edge.
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Speaker 3: You can see that they're they're one of the bodies that.
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Speaker 5: They gave back was actually.
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Speaker 4: A Palestinian pressed up in an IDF uniform.
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Speaker 5: I mean, it's sick what they're doing here.
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Speaker 4: I don't believe them for one second that they can't
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Speaker 4: retrieve these bodies.
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Speaker 5: Maybe there will be some that are more difficult.
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Speaker 4: There is a lot of destruction and rubble there obviously,
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Speaker 4: but what lies did they tell in the first place
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Speaker 4: to get this deal.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's part of what it's about. It's
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Speaker 1: psychological warfare. And they've just given back all of the
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Speaker 1: live hostages. There was naturally extreme jubilation and excitement in Israel.
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Speaker 1: But you're right, Jamie and Caroline. If you hold out
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Speaker 1: those extra bodies and those corpses, it is a form
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Speaker 1: of psychological warfare where people feel like, well, is this
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Speaker 1: really over? Is this war really done? And the reality
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Speaker 1: is it's not. Israel is still a war with Hummas.
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Speaker 1: They have a lot to go in the twenty point
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Speaker 1: piece plan before there is truly peace. But the other
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Speaker 1: thing we've seen coming out over the last day or
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Speaker 1: so is hostages recounting just how brutally they were treated
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Speaker 1: in captivity, from being starved, forced to dig their own
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Speaker 1: graves up in solitary confinement for two years, it's just barbaric.
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Speaker 1: But then you have other people like Greta Tumberg, whose
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Speaker 1: couple of nights in an Israeli jail were so traumatizing
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Speaker 1: and horrendous. In a tell all interview with The Daily
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Speaker 1: with the Telegraph in the UK, she said, they dragged
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Speaker 1: me to the opposite side from where the others were sitting,
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Speaker 1: and I had the flag around me the whole time
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Speaker 1: they hit and kicked me. There's a lot I don't remember.
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Speaker 1: So much is happening at once. You're in shock, you're
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Speaker 1: in pain, but you go into a state of trying
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Speaker 1: to stay calm. I mean, come on, come on. She
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Speaker 1: was in there for what a couple nights. The actual
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Speaker 1: Israeli hostages were in there for two years in truly
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Speaker 1: horrific conditions. Does she have no And it's funny because
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Speaker 1: she goes on to say that the prison guards had
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Speaker 1: no empathy or humanity. Greta, where your empathy and humanity
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Speaker 1: for the actual hostages. If your experience in the jail
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Speaker 1: of a democratic western country was that bad, imagine how
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Speaker 1: it is being in a tunnel underground that's controlled by
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Speaker 1: a death cult, probably a little worse.
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Speaker 2: Which she just can't even visualize what Israeli hostages would
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Speaker 2: have been going through. As we saw when she posted
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Speaker 2: on social media the Israeli hostage, she was digging his
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Speaker 2: own grave and she put that up as a Palestine
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Speaker 2: a Palestinian hostage, and so she's just got absolutely no idea.
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Speaker 2: And further within that article, she actually has the hide
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Speaker 2: to say she was made to drink from a tap
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Speaker 2: that was near a toilet and her green frog hat.
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Speaker 3: Was taken off and stomped on.
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Speaker 5: Well, you know, I don't want to make a light
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Speaker 5: of someone.
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Speaker 4: If someone was abused in an Israeli prison like that,
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Speaker 4: if she was kicked and pushed, that is not on.
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Speaker 4: But I do not believe it for a second, because
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Speaker 4: this is someone who has spouted her mass propaganda from
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Speaker 4: the start of this war, so.
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Speaker 5: I don't actually believe it.
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Speaker 4: And when she flits between serious allegations that she was
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Speaker 4: physically abused and then oh, they made me wear a
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Speaker 4: T shirt with decolonization on it, and that is like
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Speaker 4: on the same level of suffering, I find it very difficult,
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Speaker 4: and that he hadn't find anything and her frog hat
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Speaker 4: was stomped.
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Speaker 1: But it's also not in Israel's interest to mistreat her
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Speaker 1: because that gives her exactly what she wants, which is
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Speaker 1: the story of oh, I was so oppressed, so why
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Speaker 1: would they do that at the first.
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Speaker 5: We saw how they were.
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Speaker 4: She has no evidence of any of this, of course,
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Speaker 4: there's no videos or any evidence. So I'll believe it
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Speaker 4: when I see it, especially when it's coming from her.
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Speaker 4: But we did see videos of how she was treated
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Speaker 4: the first time on her on the first journey I'll
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Speaker 4: go on the first flow tiller and they were given
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Speaker 4: sandwiches and the worst thing that happened to them was
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Speaker 4: that there was some Abba music play. That's that's what
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Speaker 4: we've actually seen as evidence. So until I see any
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Speaker 4: firm evidence. I mean, she showed there was a photograph
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Speaker 4: of her with the suit ca that had greta and
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Speaker 4: a word I probably can't say on television but means
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Speaker 4: someone who solicits for sex on the street that she
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Speaker 4: alleges Israel called her. And I just do not buy
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Speaker 4: it for a second, you know, because it's so juvenile.
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Speaker 5: They don't need to do that. She's making enough of
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Speaker 5: a fool of personal.
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Speaker 3: She said that about her suitcase as well.
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Speaker 2: That was written on her suitcase as well as a
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Speaker 2: male genitalia as well as an Israeli flag. So I
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Speaker 2: know when you hear these sort of allegations and you think, well,
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Speaker 2: Israel have.
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Speaker 3: Come out and denied and denied it all.
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Speaker 2: But just when we're speaking about activis activism and what
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Speaker 2: people are wanting to see now off the back of
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Speaker 2: this ceasefire announcement. There was an article in today's paper
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Speaker 2: that was talking about how the word ceasefire is now
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Speaker 2: going to be regarded as an oppressor's term, and that
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Speaker 2: several groups have said, look, this peace agreement that's been
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Speaker 2: broken by President Trump last week, it's just not enough,
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Speaker 2: because not as enough has been done to change their demands.
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Speaker 1: Sorry, I've thought ceasefire was what you were protesting for
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Speaker 1: for the last two years. If you actually don't like
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Speaker 1: a cease fire, I'm sure Israel will be perfectly happy
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Speaker 1: to continue the warring Gaza and fully wipe out her mask.
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Speaker 1: Wasn't ceasefire what they were protesting for. Oh, is it
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Speaker 1: just a ceasefire arranged by anyone else other than Trump?
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Speaker 1: Or is it actually a ceasefire that results when Israel
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Speaker 1: gets wiped off the map? But I think that's the
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Speaker 1: kind of seaspire.
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Speaker 4: That's the one they literally have been calling ceasepire now
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Speaker 4: since this whole start said they must be oppressors by
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Speaker 4: their own definition. It's but it just is so revealing,
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Speaker 4: isn't it how these protesters, I mean, even her mass
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Speaker 4: has accepted the deal. Even it's the Arab states who
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Speaker 4: like Qatar, who have been providing refuge for the leaders
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Speaker 4: of her mask have accepted and pushed for this deal
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Speaker 4: and the ceasefire. And yet it's not good enough for
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Speaker 4: the useful idiot of the West, like our own pro
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Speaker 4: Palestinian protesters here, who will never accept it, not just
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Speaker 4: because Trump is behind it, but because, as you say, Freyer,
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Speaker 4: it doesn't involve the complete destruction of Israel. They say
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Speaker 4: they won't rest until all Palestinians can return, have right
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Speaker 4: of return, that includes all the descendants millions of Palestinians,
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Speaker 4: which would lead to the destruction of Israel as we
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Speaker 4: know it, and until really Israel seasons two exist.
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Speaker 5: So it's obvious here they never were about peace. That
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Speaker 5: was their true intention.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's head overseas now, and a former presidential candidate,
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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris is out promoting her book, which is to
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Speaker 2: reflect upon that election loss where she did go down
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Speaker 2: to Donald Trump, and she's been saying some very interesting
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Speaker 2: things out on this speaking tour. In particular, she's been promoting, oh,
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Speaker 2: how great she was as a candidate.
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Speaker 7: I was the United States Senator, a second black woman
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Speaker 7: elected in the history of the United States Senate, and
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Speaker 7: I was the first woman vice president of the United States.
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Speaker 7: Some people have actually said I was the most qualified
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Speaker 7: candidate ever to run for president.
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Speaker 5: I liked you. I like this. Some people say, very nice,
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Speaker 5: but go ahead.
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Speaker 3: I'm just speaking fact.
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Speaker 2: It's just so funny those comments, because you do like
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Speaker 2: to see someone that is very confident and very happy
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Speaker 2: with their achievements. But looking at well, this is it,
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Speaker 2: and but looking at the comments on social media, I
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Speaker 2: actually was having a little dive through just to see
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Speaker 2: what other people were saying, and the comments were hilarious because.
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Speaker 3: People all said, first of all, this is just very bizarre.
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Speaker 2: But second, she's being very trump like, being out there
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Speaker 2: just really being very self fulfilling, promoting, and they were saying,
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Speaker 2: this is Trump, but.
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Speaker 5: She is not Trump, so she can't carry it off.
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Speaker 4: And she said she's the most qualified candidate. Excuse me,
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Speaker 4: were running against someone who was president, I think they
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Speaker 4: might be more qualified to become president.
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Speaker 5: Which it turned out to be. But the other thing
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Speaker 5: that I.
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Speaker 4: Found interesting as part of this book tour is she's
19:08
Speaker 4: become increasingly potty mouthed to come as well. That's not
19:12
Speaker 4: something that Trump generally does. There was a time that
19:15
Speaker 4: he has dropped the F bomb. But have a look
19:18
Speaker 4: at what she also said during this conversation.
19:22
Speaker 7: What they are doing to push misinformation and lies at
19:27
Speaker 7: the highest level of government. It's criminal and people will
19:33
Speaker 7: die because of what they're doing. I can't laugh about that.
19:36
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
19:39
Speaker 6: Ye.
19:41
Speaker 4: I mean, this is the second time, as far as
19:44
Speaker 4: I've seen on this book tour that she's dropped the
19:46
Speaker 4: F bomb. She previously called members of the Trump administration
19:50
Speaker 4: mother fers as well. I don't know if it's the
19:53
Speaker 4: day drinking that she has time for now that's doing
19:56
Speaker 4: this to her, but it is bizarre, and I also
19:59
Speaker 4: find find it highly ironic and hypocritical that she's accusing
20:04
Speaker 4: the Trump administration of pushing lies and misinformation when she
20:08
Speaker 4: was complicit in the cover up of Biden's cognitive decline
20:13
Speaker 4: and her administration was complicit in pushing Russiagate. Yeah, and
20:17
Speaker 4: complicit in covering up the Hunter Biden laptop scandal. So no, Kamala,
20:22
Speaker 4: you sit down. You do not get the moral high
20:25
Speaker 4: ground on this.
20:26
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like this whole book to her has
20:28
Speaker 1: just been her trying to justify her absolutely dismal performance. Remember,
20:33
Speaker 1: her campaign spent around a billion dollars. It lied to
20:38
Speaker 1: donors saying she was on track to win, and then
20:40
Speaker 1: she failed spectacularly. So now she's trying to rewrite the
20:43
Speaker 1: story with this book about you know, really I was
20:46
Speaker 1: super qualified. Really, I just didn't have enough time on
20:49
Speaker 1: the campaign trail. None of this was my fault. It
20:51
Speaker 1: was all factors outside my control. And then I think
20:55
Speaker 1: she's using swear words as a way to grab attention.
21:00
Speaker 1: Is to be perfectly honest, no one sees Kamala Harris
21:04
Speaker 1: as the future of the Democrat Party, and if they do,
21:07
Speaker 1: they want to lose, Like they want a death sentence
21:11
Speaker 1: for the Democrats if they think she is the future
21:14
Speaker 1: and their greatest hope for the presidency. And so I
21:17
Speaker 1: just think it's pathetic and it is really all Wellian
21:20
Speaker 1: as well. She's attacking the MAHA movement saying make America
21:24
Speaker 1: healthy again is leading to people dying. Okay, health is
21:28
Speaker 1: somehow death. That is all Wellian at its finest. What
21:31
Speaker 1: is so controversial about wanting to investigate the causes of diseases,
21:35
Speaker 1: wanting to find out what is causing things.
21:39
Speaker 4: I disagree on some of that aspects. I find it
21:41
Speaker 4: very concerning and disturbing. Some of the things that are okay,
21:44
Speaker 4: but some of it and even Trump in linking things
21:47
Speaker 4: like tailanol to autism. Now, I don't agree with all
21:50
Speaker 4: the Democrats and crazy lefties suddenly chugging tailanol while pregnant
21:55
Speaker 4: on their social media.
21:56
Speaker 5: But it's also it is dangerous some of them.
22:00
Speaker 1: Some of the more practical things like reviewing the food pyramid,
22:03
Speaker 1: taking food dies out of things. There are some good things.
22:06
Speaker 1: We can't blank it fresh.
22:07
Speaker 4: Everything fid the links to autism though, there is enough
22:11
Speaker 4: then to make me truly concerned.
22:12
Speaker 1: But look, Kamala's not the only one that has Trump
22:15
Speaker 1: derangement syndrome. There is a long list of Hollywood celebrities
22:19
Speaker 1: that are completely fixated with Trump, and the latest one
22:23
Speaker 1: appears to be Bradley Whitford, who appeared on the View
22:27
Speaker 1: a Source of Divine Wisdom Always not and he seems
22:32
Speaker 1: to suggest that the US is now a country with
22:36
Speaker 1: internment camps.
22:38
Speaker 8: I am living in a world where we have in
22:41
Speaker 8: tournament camps. Yes, where in my community people are jumping
22:45
Speaker 8: out of vans and people going through a legal asylum
22:50
Speaker 8: process are being taken away without charges.
22:55
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's the definition of internment camp
22:58
Speaker 1: when they're being held there because they're illegal. And it's
23:01
Speaker 1: not just Trump that's deported people. Obama, when he was president,
23:05
Speaker 1: deported two point five million people. I don't think you
23:07
Speaker 1: were condemning him back then. But he then went on
23:10
Speaker 1: to say that veterans that fought against Nazi Germany in
23:14
Speaker 1: World War Two they were actually part of Antifa.
23:19
Speaker 8: I've been thinking about my dad a lot. He died
23:23
Speaker 8: a long time ago. He would be over one hundred
23:29
Speaker 8: years old, one hundred and ten. He fought in World
23:33
Speaker 8: War Two when fascism was on the rise. He was
23:36
Speaker 8: on a mind sweeper with torpedoes coming at him.
23:40
Speaker 1: He was Antifa.
23:41
Speaker 8: He was Antifa.
23:42
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, World War Two veterans are not Antifa. Antifa
23:49
Speaker 1: has been designated as a domestic terrorist organization by the
23:55
Speaker 1: US government. They are highly dangerous. They caused billions of
23:58
Speaker 1: dollars of damage in the black lives a matter of riots.
24:01
Speaker 1: That is an insult to the legacy of people who
24:05
Speaker 1: did genuinely fight against Nazi Germany. And Antifa is not noble.
24:10
Speaker 1: It is a radical, destructive, left wing terrorist organization according
24:14
Speaker 1: to the US government. Now, how could he say something
24:17
Speaker 1: like that.
24:18
Speaker 2: I know, it was a real When I watched that,
24:20
Speaker 2: I thought, what is going on in the world right
24:23
Speaker 2: now that you can sit there on a panel and
24:25
Speaker 2: think that that is appropriate to be speaking about also
24:28
Speaker 2: with his father as well, linking it in with these
24:30
Speaker 2: groups too, and that he was agreeing with Joy that
24:33
Speaker 2: his father was Antifa. But as you mentioned, it was
24:37
Speaker 2: declared a terrorist organization by Trumbll first of all in
24:40
Speaker 2: twenty twenty but then he officially signed that order in
24:42
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, just to try and stop this violent
24:45
Speaker 2: extremism that we are seeing on the left. But yeah,
24:48
Speaker 2: absolutely no disrespectful.
24:50
Speaker 4: Speaking of a Wellian language that you mentioned before, Fred,
24:54
Speaker 4: that is exactly what the antifa movement is. They've claimed
24:57
Speaker 4: this term anti fascist and they using their name Antifa
25:01
Speaker 4: anti fascist, but.
25:03
Speaker 5: What they really are is they are the fascists.
25:05
Speaker 4: They're the ones that are justifying violence against people who
25:09
Speaker 4: don't share their far left extreme beliefs and ideologies. I mean,
25:16
Speaker 4: they've been investigating if there's connections with Charlie Kirk's murder
25:20
Speaker 4: and this movement. They've been involved in fire bombings and
25:24
Speaker 4: other serious criminal offenses and domestic terror offenses in the
25:28
Speaker 4: United States and this poor man's father, I think would
25:32
Speaker 4: be probably rolling in his brains to hear something like that.
25:35
Speaker 4: But anyway, let's move on to what's happening in the Pentagon,
25:39
Speaker 4: because most news outlets in the Pentagon have now walked
25:45
Speaker 4: out after refusing to sign an agreement that they would
25:54
Speaker 4: no longer be allowed to solicit classified or control unclassified
26:01
Speaker 4: information that officials in the Department have not authorized for
26:06
Speaker 4: public release. We're talking about things like leaked confidential information.
26:12
Speaker 4: This is the stuff that's bread and butter for journalists.
26:15
Speaker 4: You know, these are where the big investigations happen, the
26:18
Speaker 4: big stories.
26:19
Speaker 5: Now.
26:19
Speaker 4: I know that a lot of mainstream news organizations in
26:23
Speaker 4: the US seriously have a lot to answer for, especially
26:27
Speaker 4: with their bias and how they've handled things, especially over
26:31
Speaker 4: the Biden administration. But I don't think this means that
26:34
Speaker 4: we should be allowing the United States to act like
26:37
Speaker 4: North Korea over in China in threatening journalists not to
26:43
Speaker 4: publish this sort of information. Even Fox News walked out
26:47
Speaker 4: on this. There was only I think one very right
26:50
Speaker 4: wing one Americans organization.
26:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's really interesting because it says the revised
26:56
Speaker 1: guidelines say reporters may be considered a security risk if
27:01
Speaker 1: they solicit the disclosure of such information or otherwise encourage
27:05
Speaker 1: Pentagon personnel to violate laws and policies about disclosure. This
27:10
Speaker 1: may include directly asking for such information, or general appeals
27:14
Speaker 1: such as public advertisements or calls for tips, encouraging Department
27:18
Speaker 1: of War employees to share non Department of War information.
27:22
Speaker 1: So it's really about making sure, I guess the way
27:26
Speaker 1: Trump and Hags have framed it is cracking a relationship
27:30
Speaker 1: that seems to be there between a lot of senior
27:33
Speaker 1: defense personnel and journalists. And I understand the concern to
27:38
Speaker 1: an extent. When you're dealing with highly classified issues, military
27:43
Speaker 1: plans that, if they get leaked, could potentially cost lives,
27:47
Speaker 1: I can see why you would want that to be
27:49
Speaker 1: maintained in confidence. But then maybe the answer is crackdown
27:53
Speaker 1: on your staff, not the journalists that would seem to
27:56
Speaker 1: be the problem for you.
27:57
Speaker 2: It's not going to make a difference because the journalist
27:59
Speaker 2: going to STI pick up the phone. You're just going
28:01
Speaker 2: to be doing it outside of the Pentagon walls versus
28:03
Speaker 2: inside of them. And one of the journalists said they
28:05
Speaker 2: feel as though they're being accused of just eavesdropping that
28:08
Speaker 2: they're just sort of hanging around in the corridors and
28:10
Speaker 2: that's how they're getting their intel.
28:11
Speaker 3: So I don't see how it's going to really change anything.
28:14
Speaker 4: The dependent secretary of Pete Hegseth needs to crack down
28:17
Speaker 4: on himself because he's the one who in the signal
28:19
Speaker 4: chat not that long ago, was the journalist journalist in
28:23
Speaker 4: by accident exactly, So maybe they need to take a
28:26
Speaker 4: closer look at them all.
28:27
Speaker 2: Pete Hegseth did say though, that the whole point was
28:29
Speaker 2: he thought, you sign this to acknowledge the rules, but
28:32
Speaker 2: you're not necessarily signing on to say that you accept them,
28:35
Speaker 2: but that you have at least acknowledged the fact that
28:37
Speaker 2: they're trying to change it.
28:38
Speaker 3: And they also didn't want.
28:39
Speaker 2: Journalists to just start roaming the corridors like what they
28:42
Speaker 2: used to have and instead have certain areas where they
28:45
Speaker 2: need to be walking through with an escort. And apparently
28:48
Speaker 2: journalists also didn't like that. A very interesting story.
28:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that part of it, but I think
28:54
Speaker 1: this is just going too far. But saying on that
28:57
Speaker 1: theme of the US, a new survey has come out
29:00
Speaker 1: by the United States Study Center here in Australia. That
29:04
Speaker 1: shows a concerning decline in how Australians perceive our relationship
29:10
Speaker 1: with the US. Just fifty four percent of people support
29:14
Speaker 1: the US alliance, which it means forty six percent of
29:18
Speaker 1: people don't. That is staggering. Seventy three percent are worried
29:23
Speaker 1: about the state of the US's democracy. Now that doesn't
29:27
Speaker 1: necessarily mean they're on the left and think Trump is bad.
29:30
Speaker 1: They could be on the right and think the Democrats
29:32
Speaker 1: are bad for democracy, but still very concerning. And there's
29:36
Speaker 1: been a thirteen percent drop in the percentage of people
29:40
Speaker 1: who say that the US alliance with Australia makes us
29:45
Speaker 1: more secure. Now, that's just staggering, because the US is
29:48
Speaker 1: our key strategic ally. For such a relatively low percentage
29:53
Speaker 1: of the population to actually think that it's benefiting us
29:57
Speaker 1: in any way deeply warrant.
30:00
Speaker 4: There's so many figures that it is actually quite confusing
30:02
Speaker 4: this report. I think it was fifty four percent that
30:04
Speaker 4: supported the alliance, but still it is a very low number,
30:07
Speaker 4: not much higher than what the one that you said,
30:09
Speaker 4: and something like forty seven percent of them thinks we
30:12
Speaker 4: need it now more than ever. The truth is we
30:15
Speaker 4: should all be thinking we need it more now than
30:18
Speaker 4: ever because we've got China on our doorstep showing increasing
30:22
Speaker 4: aggression in the region, especially around the South China Sea,
30:26
Speaker 4: and it's really only amount of time, not if, but
30:31
Speaker 4: when we need this alliance. And what I also found
30:34
Speaker 4: really disturbing was thirty nine percent of people couldn't even
30:38
Speaker 4: say whether we should keep the Orchest deal, which is
30:41
Speaker 4: what Urban Easy is heading over to the US next
30:45
Speaker 4: week to try and fight and keep as well as
30:47
Speaker 4: to try and get a better deal on tariffs.
30:49
Speaker 5: But this is absolutely instrumental for our security.
30:53
Speaker 2: We can completely blame the Labor government for this though,
30:56
Speaker 2: because they have completely failed to invest any form of
30:59
Speaker 2: if IT into this relationship with the US. They completely
31:03
Speaker 2: use Donald Trump as a weapon to win the last delete.
31:06
Speaker 2: They didn't use that solid to in the last election,
31:07
Speaker 2: but they did use it in a way. So to
31:11
Speaker 2: the Australian public, we haven't had any explanation by Albo.
31:14
Speaker 3: As to why it is so important to continue this Orchest.
31:16
Speaker 2: Relationship, nor have we heard much from Richard Miles about
31:19
Speaker 2: it as well. So for those that are out there
31:21
Speaker 2: who aren't as heavily engaged in politics as what we
31:23
Speaker 2: all are, they would have no idea because our government
31:26
Speaker 2: aren't telling anyone because they also don't really care about
31:29
Speaker 2: this relationship with the US.
31:31
Speaker 3: And it's becoming very very clear.
31:32
Speaker 2: And also within that study it said that China forty
31:36
Speaker 2: eight percent of Australians see them as more harmful.
31:39
Speaker 3: I thought that was interesting too.
31:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're right though, Jamie. The only thing that
31:43
Speaker 1: the average punter here in Australia would even hear about
31:46
Speaker 1: the US is that it's divisive American politics. Albanezi loves
31:51
Speaker 1: to use that when talking about Trump, and there's a
31:54
Speaker 1: constant talking down of our relationship with the US. I
31:58
Speaker 1: understand people's concerns about Arabs, and that is hurting Australia,
32:02
Speaker 1: it is hurting the world. But you've got to understand
32:05
Speaker 1: Trump's mindset. He is very much in the America first
32:09
Speaker 1: category of thinking politically, and so it's just sad to
32:13
Speaker 1: see our once great alliance being so fragile.
32:16
Speaker 5: Well, you know what's not sad. Pets on a plane, dogs.
32:20
Speaker 4: Little dogs, puppies, kittens, and they've had their first flight.
32:24
Speaker 4: Virgin has allowed dogs and cats to fly for the
32:27
Speaker 4: first time in a historic event. They've been welcomed on
32:31
Speaker 4: board a commercial passenger flight today operated by the airline
32:37
Speaker 4: from Melbourne. Now it follows a change to civil aviation
32:41
Speaker 4: safety regulations. It means that the pets, and they have
32:45
Speaker 4: to be small enough, can travel in the cabin with
32:48
Speaker 4: their owner rather than underneath, and it will cost you
32:53
Speaker 4: one hundred and forty nine dollars. At the moment is
32:55
Speaker 4: just smaller size dogs and cats. And I think there's
32:58
Speaker 4: only four seats on the plane. It's just limited to
33:02
Speaker 4: the back couple of rows. I'm not against this. I
33:05
Speaker 4: love animals and dogs and cats. I just wouldn't want
33:08
Speaker 4: to bring my own dog on the flight because see,
33:10
Speaker 4: he might be little, but he's going to cause quite
33:13
Speaker 4: a racket. So I don't want to be the person
33:15
Speaker 4: who has the annoying dog, like the annoying crying baby.
33:18
Speaker 2: You know, lots of people probably will because they won't mind,
33:21
Speaker 2: like you don't want to take your dog on. But
33:22
Speaker 2: other people will say, oh, well, I need to bring
33:24
Speaker 2: my dog to Melbourne or Gold Coast or wherever this
33:27
Speaker 2: ends up going. So no, it is just a trial.
33:28
Speaker 2: But I just think this is just so ridiculous. It
33:31
Speaker 2: is so ridiculous. I've got a really bad cat allergy,
33:34
Speaker 2: and I thought, you know what, dog, I'll end up
33:35
Speaker 2: being seated in a row in front of a cat
33:37
Speaker 2: because if it's anywhere near me, I.
33:39
Speaker 3: Get really and you just can fit away. What a
33:43
Speaker 3: pain though, you know. And I was looking on mine.
33:45
Speaker 2: So there's there's four seats and they're the window seats
33:48
Speaker 2: as well, and it's got the little paw print so
33:50
Speaker 2: that when you are booking your seat you can see
33:52
Speaker 2: where there's going to be an animal. So that is cute,
33:55
Speaker 2: but I just think it's ridiculous.
33:57
Speaker 1: See I've actually been on a flight with a dog before.
33:59
Speaker 1: I was flying out of New York last year and
34:01
Speaker 1: we were grounded on the tarmac at JFK Airport for honestly,
34:05
Speaker 1: it was like six hours. It was horrendous. But only
34:08
Speaker 1: four hours into this ordeal did I realize that a
34:11
Speaker 1: woman diagonal in front of me had a dog on
34:14
Speaker 1: the plane with us. And it lasted six hours. Did
34:16
Speaker 1: not hear a peep out of that far quieter than
34:19
Speaker 1: all the babies that were sitting next to me. So
34:21
Speaker 1: I got on the bar from if.
34:23
Speaker 4: The dog has to do its bit, you can't exactly
34:26
Speaker 4: take it outside the plane to have.
34:28
Speaker 3: The facilities yeah, first, maybe that's what.
34:32
Speaker 4: It's made there, but that's what whereas there's going to
34:34
Speaker 4: go first dogs and cats next, people will want to
34:37
Speaker 4: bring their exotic pets on the plane. We're going to
34:39
Speaker 4: have snakes on a plane literally before you know it.
34:42
Speaker 1: It'd be pretty exciting. Well, something else that's not very
34:44
Speaker 1: exciting for Sydney signers is the City of Sydney Council
34:49
Speaker 1: is considering a debate on whether the number of days
34:53
Speaker 1: you can put a property up on Airbnb should be capped.
34:58
Speaker 1: Now they the Greens count on City of Sydney. Of
35:01
Speaker 1: course it's coming from the Greens want to put a
35:03
Speaker 1: sixty day cap on renting out apartments and houses on Airbnb.
35:08
Speaker 1: People are complaining that inner city suburbs like Miller's point
35:12
Speaker 1: down my Circular Key are basically just becoming all airbnbs. Now,
35:16
Speaker 1: it sounds like a great idea to fix the rental
35:19
Speaker 1: crisis until you realize these are not affordable rentals anyway.
35:23
Speaker 1: They're going to be very expensive, So why not just
35:26
Speaker 1: let people do what they want with their property? And
35:29
Speaker 1: Airbnb has actually done a survey and found only that
35:33
Speaker 1: eighty eight percent of owners wouldn't put their property up
35:37
Speaker 1: for rent because they also want access to it. So
35:40
Speaker 1: what is this actually going to solve other than further
35:43
Speaker 1: hurt our nightlife make our city less hospitable.
35:46
Speaker 4: It's just still I mean, it is an Airbnb survey,
35:49
Speaker 4: so it is going to probably be done by you,
35:53
Speaker 4: the data that Airbnb will want to put out. Who
35:55
Speaker 4: knows what kind of pushpulling they at least. Look I'm
35:58
Speaker 4: with you, I think, I mean, it's good for renters,
36:00
Speaker 4: possibly maybe out of a lot of people's price range
36:03
Speaker 4: these inner city places, but it's bad for investors and
36:06
Speaker 4: you have to balance people's interests.
36:08
Speaker 2: And just really quickly this was actually an election issue.
36:11
Speaker 2: A lot of people coming up to me and Maringa
36:14
Speaker 2: asking what we can do about Airbnb because it was
36:16
Speaker 2: ruining people's apartment blocks and that was right across it.
36:19
Speaker 5: It's not nice for the locals.
36:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it definitely is becoming an issue when it
36:23
Speaker 1: gets out of hand. But coming up after the break,
36:26
Speaker 1: we're going to bring you tomorrow's papers today. And Australia
36:30
Speaker 1: is in discussions with the United States about potentially sending
36:33
Speaker 1: some Australian troops over to Gaza as part of the
36:36
Speaker 1: international forces there. We'll bring you more on that after
36:39
Speaker 1: the break. Welcome back to the program. Let's get into
36:45
Speaker 1: tomorrow's front pages, starting with the Herald Sun.
36:48
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a disturbing one, guys. It's called City
36:51
Speaker 4: Online Edge. This headline and on the front page of
36:55
Speaker 4: the paper is the screen grabs some shocking footage that's
36:59
Speaker 4: come out all of a woman being stabbed in the
37:02
Speaker 4: chest by a stranger who was out on bail.
37:06
Speaker 5: I mean it's Melbourne.
37:09
Speaker 4: Just just a warning, there is some distressing footage. I
37:13
Speaker 4: want a fewers to know about that. I think we're
37:17
Speaker 4: going to show some of it to you now. It
37:22
Speaker 4: shows this woman on bail go up to this stranger
37:27
Speaker 4: and stab her.
37:28
Speaker 5: We're not going to show you the moment.
37:30
Speaker 4: That injury is actually that second that injury is sustained,
37:34
Speaker 4: but then the woman the attacker runs off. The woman
37:40
Speaker 4: had just been leaving for her job at a sushi
37:42
Speaker 4: restaurant when she's accosted like that in broad daylight. And
37:48
Speaker 4: it came after a terrifying stabbing. Sorry, the terrifying stabbing
37:54
Speaker 4: came a day after another man who was allegedly out
37:57
Speaker 4: on bail dly carjacked drivers at gunpoint. We have a
38:03
Speaker 4: real problem with law and order in Melbourne that people
38:06
Speaker 4: are so brazenly committing acts like this in broad daylight
38:10
Speaker 4: while out on bail.
38:11
Speaker 5: It had against strangers.
38:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like seven point thirty am in the morning,
38:16
Speaker 1: which is just so tragic and just crazy to think
38:21
Speaker 1: that this is the kind of thing that people in
38:23
Speaker 1: Melbourne are now having to live with.
38:25
Speaker 3: Well, that poor.
38:26
Speaker 2: Woman that was stabbed as moved because she said she
38:29
Speaker 2: was just way too scared to still live around there,
38:32
Speaker 2: and of course you would be when you go and
38:34
Speaker 2: get stabbed on your way to work. Well, one state
38:36
Speaker 2: that has tackled the crime well is up in the Territory,
38:40
Speaker 2: where the Northern Territory have put in their new crime
38:42
Speaker 2: laws and crime takes a deep dive. So the Northern
38:46
Speaker 2: Territory government's tough on crime approach to law and order
38:49
Speaker 2: appears to be working, with latest crime data showing a
38:52
Speaker 2: dramatic drop across a number of key areas. So you
38:55
Speaker 2: can see on that front page there it's got offenses
38:57
Speaker 2: against a person is down by sixteen percent, so down
39:00
Speaker 2: by nineteen percent, home breaking is down by twenty four percent,
39:04
Speaker 2: and big business burglary down by thirty eight percent. And
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Speaker 2: I really think that just Intervalen needs to pick up
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Speaker 2: the phone to live Fornaciaro and say, let's talk through
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Speaker 2: the changes that you made, in particular when they were
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Speaker 2: lowering that age to be criminally responsible down to ten.
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Speaker 2: And remember they faced a lot of criticism over that time,
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Speaker 2: but looks to be working. And also those charges now
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Speaker 2: if you post and boast which is happening in Victoria.
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Speaker 3: So I think just Into Allen really needs to pick
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Speaker 3: up the phone.
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Speaker 4: But that being Melbournians and Victorians need to look at
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Speaker 4: this to see how their state.
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Speaker 3: Could be run, that it can be turned around exactly.
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Speaker 5: It's remarkable for the government.
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Speaker 1: And that's the thing. Government policy makes such a difference
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Speaker 1: in law and order. This is not just a political issue.
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Speaker 1: This makes a genuine difference on the ground. And so
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Speaker 1: the fact that Victorians look like they're going to according
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Speaker 1: to the current polls, still re elect the Allen government
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Speaker 1: even though they can look at the Northern territory to
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Speaker 1: see how much better their state could be, I find
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Speaker 1: that mind blowing. And the other thing is it's always
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Speaker 1: left wing governments that go soft on crime, but it
40:10
Speaker 1: is disadvantaged communities that end up suffering the worst of it.
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Speaker 1: So if you really care about vulnerable people, you should
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Speaker 1: be tough on crime. So well done to Leah Up.
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Speaker 4: Not a good week, I mean after speaking out about
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Speaker 4: trance inmates not being allowed and female prisons to this,
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Speaker 4: it shows that her tough on crime.
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Speaker 2: And she really stood up to labor when they were
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Speaker 2: calling her new policy antite.
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Speaker 1: So good well. In the Daily Telegraph tomorrow, another interesting headline,
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Speaker 1: China joins Australia's road to net zero below the Belt.
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Speaker 1: This is my James willis, a company spearheading China's controversial
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Speaker 1: Belton Road initiative, has been engaged to work on Australian
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Speaker 1: net zero projects, which national security experts have described as
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Speaker 1: a may major rent flag. The Daily Telegraph can reveal
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Speaker 1: the developers of two battery farms have outsourced work to
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Speaker 1: the state owned China Energy Engineering Corporation. I mean, what
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Speaker 1: do you know the country the benefits from net zero
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Speaker 1: is China. I mean this is something we've known for
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Speaker 1: a long time. A lot of the companies behind the
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Speaker 1: net zero transition are foreign owned, but I think this
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Speaker 1: is taking it to a whole new level. We potentially
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Speaker 1: now have taxpayer subsidized battery farms being run and built
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Speaker 1: by a Chinese state owned corporation. How did it get
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Speaker 1: to this?
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Speaker 3: I know you can see why it is a major
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Speaker 3: red flag.
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Speaker 2: We've reported on similar stories on Sky News just regarding
41:48
Speaker 2: the fear factor of what China can do to these
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Speaker 2: products when they arrive into our country and having the
41:52
Speaker 2: ability to be able to shut them down, and then
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Speaker 2: having basically control over our energy grid and at the
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Speaker 2: flick of a switch we can go today.
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Speaker 4: There's such an irony too that China doesn't have to
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Speaker 4: do pretty much anything to reduce its emissions and it's
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Speaker 4: benefiting from our ridiculous policies to get to that zero,
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Speaker 4: you know, with all of these wind farms and solar farms.
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Speaker 5: Crazy.
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Speaker 4: Another story that's on the front of the Telegraph and
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Speaker 4: other news court papers has actually been picked up as
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Speaker 4: an exclusive from the Nightly Online newspaper, and this is
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Speaker 4: a big exclusive that they've got running tonight that's been
42:27
Speaker 4: picked up elsewhere and tomorrow's papers about how Australian troops
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Speaker 4: may join the International Stabilization Force to support Gaza peace plan.
42:38
Speaker 4: In other words, we could have our troops on the
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Speaker 4: ground in the Middle East in Gaza helping to support
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Speaker 4: Trump's peace plan and make sure.
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Speaker 5: It goes it goes to plan.
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Speaker 4: I guess you could say it's called the International Stabilization
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Speaker 4: Force or the ISF, and that other countries, according to
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Speaker 4: this report.
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Speaker 5: May well make up this force.
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Speaker 4: Include Indonesia and Pakistan, interestingly to Muslim countries. But I
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Speaker 4: wonder how the people, Australian people will take this because
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Speaker 4: I think a lot of people will not want us
43:15
Speaker 4: being involved in that situation. It's a very dangerous area.
43:19
Speaker 4: We've already had been involved in Afghanistan and Iraq. But
43:23
Speaker 4: on the other hand, this is something to make sure
43:26
Speaker 4: that Islamist fundamentalists.
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Speaker 5: Don't get a hold on this area.
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Speaker 4: Has an impact all the way on us here in Australia,
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Speaker 4: So I think it is important.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm really interested to see how this
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Speaker 1: Stabilization Force operates as a whole and how much resistance
43:42
Speaker 1: they're going to face by Hamas. But I think it's
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Speaker 1: very clear that in the eyes of the world and
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Speaker 1: particularly America, Australia has not been pulling its weight. We
43:52
Speaker 1: have become irrelevant when we've always punched above our weight.
43:56
Speaker 1: The fact that we were absent from the Middle East
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Speaker 1: peace summit in Egypt, when you had countries like the
44:01
Speaker 1: UK and France and Italy. There speaks volumes about where
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Speaker 1: we are. So I think, if anything now, even though
44:07
Speaker 1: it could be dangerous, we need to be stepping up
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Speaker 1: to the plate because under Albo we have fallen off.
44:15
Speaker 1: But in the Australian Tomorrow there's another interesting headline, I
44:19
Speaker 1: was fed to the lions. Reynolds wants mean Girls held
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Speaker 1: to account. In a move that threatens to reopen the
44:27
Speaker 1: Bitter Mean Girls saga, Linda Reynolds is seeking a parliamentary
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Speaker 1: inquiry into Brittaney Higgins scandal that would include an investigation
44:35
Speaker 1: into whether two of Labour's most senior figures, Foreign Minister
44:39
Speaker 1: Pennywong and Finance Minister Katie Gallagher, misled parliament. The former
44:45
Speaker 1: Liberal minister has written to the Speaker of the House
44:47
Speaker 1: and the President of the Senate asking for a joint
44:50
Speaker 1: inquiry into the Parliament's handling of the allegations. Allegations that
44:54
Speaker 1: Labor senators and members were allowed to become judge, jury
44:59
Speaker 1: and execute of the coalition's parliamentarians and their staff interesting
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Speaker 1: one good.
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Speaker 4: I hope it happens because it landed Linda Reynolds in
45:08
Speaker 4: hospital and a Kimberley Kitchen who was a dear friend
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Speaker 4: of ours on Sky News ended up a dying of
45:16
Speaker 4: a heart attack and a lot of this I think
45:19
Speaker 4: was attributed quite rightly to her treatment from these big girls.
45:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was absolutely horrific. Well, coming up after the break,
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Speaker 1: we're going to reveal a new coin that's coming down
45:31
Speaker 1: the line and it's an ode to an iconic Australian character.
45:34
Speaker 1: Stay tuned, welcome back to the program. Well, Jamie, you
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Speaker 1: were a swimmer in a past life, but now an
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Speaker 1: icon a star of Australian swimming is retiring.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a really big day and a sad
45:52
Speaker 2: day for swimming fans or sports fans, because swimmings. A
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Speaker 2: golden girl, Arion Titmas has hung up the goggles. She's
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Speaker 2: twenty five years old, She's won four Olympic gold medals,
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Speaker 2: seven Commonwealth Games gold medals, and I think, well, all
46:06
Speaker 2: the swimming fans will remember when she debuted at Tokyo
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Speaker 2: and she kept hearing that there is no way you'll
46:11
Speaker 2: ever beat America's Katie Ladecki in the four hundred meter freestyle,
46:15
Speaker 2: and she absolutely smashed it. She broke the world record
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Speaker 2: at that point, and then she went to Paris, and
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Speaker 2: she did say she didn't think that this would be.
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Speaker 1: Her last games.
46:24
Speaker 2: But let's take a listen to what she posted on
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Speaker 2: social media today.
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Speaker 9: I always intended to return. I never thought that Paris
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Speaker 9: would be my last Olympic Games. And knowing now what
46:34
Speaker 9: I know, I wish I had of maybe enjoyed that
46:37
Speaker 9: last race a little bit more.
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Speaker 5: So.
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Speaker 2: She did suffer some health concerns, which is sort of
46:43
Speaker 2: what made her reassess her swimming future. And she's just
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Speaker 2: an absolute legend of the game, but another one that's
46:49
Speaker 2: retired young. But twenty five for swimming is actually not
46:51
Speaker 2: that young, because you start when.
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Speaker 3: You are very little.
46:54
Speaker 2: You're about twelve when you really get into competitive swimming,
46:56
Speaker 2: and it's so full on for your body. Nine times
46:59
Speaker 2: a week, she would be in the water four hours.
47:01
Speaker 4: A day, demanding, very like a thorpe, and some people,
47:06
Speaker 4: what a toll it's taken on them mentally as well.
47:09
Speaker 5: Maybe it's the right call for her. Plus, I mean,
47:11
Speaker 5: what more does she happen to that ge?
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Speaker 3: She's got nothing else that she needs to prove. She's
47:15
Speaker 3: gone out there.
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Speaker 2: She wrote a really beautiful letter to her seven year
47:18
Speaker 2: old self. So anyone that's on socials go take away to.
47:21
Speaker 1: So inspiring for young girls out there, whilst keeping on
47:24
Speaker 1: that theme of sport, very embarrassing, not inspiring. Embarrassing if anything.
47:32
Speaker 1: A Channel nine commentator Phil Gould was caught with his
47:36
Speaker 1: pants down literally he posted a selfie on social media
47:41
Speaker 1: or the back of a door, but he didn't realize
47:44
Speaker 1: that the doors surface was actually reflective, so he could
47:49
Speaker 1: everyone could see him sitting on the toilet taking a
47:52
Speaker 1: photo of this door. He swiftly removed it. But it's
47:57
Speaker 1: a pretty big blunder that one.
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Speaker 4: I mean, he at least had a good humor about it,
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Speaker 4: was laughing with fans who pointed it out to him
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Speaker 4: on X. But it's just a lesson, isn't it. Do
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Speaker 4: not take photographs when you're sitting on the toilet. You
48:13
Speaker 4: might accidentally post that. Why do we even need to
48:16
Speaker 4: say this? It is a bit of a boomer mistake there.
48:19
Speaker 4: But I've seen influences post photographs, you know, in the
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Speaker 4: selfies in the bathroom and there's embarrassing.
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Speaker 5: Things you can see the toilets.
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Speaker 2: It's not a place for fo It's just so funny
48:29
Speaker 2: because it was supposed to be so harmless. But he
48:31
Speaker 2: was really impressed by the door in the bathroom and
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Speaker 2: he was like, Wow, don't you just love it when
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Speaker 2: the door goes right to the ground and the comments
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Speaker 2: Who'll be like, Phil, we can see you.
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Speaker 5: It's so embarrassing.
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Speaker 1: Look.
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Speaker 4: To finish off, there is the Australian Mint. It's trying
48:46
Speaker 4: to revive itself a little bit because people don't really
48:48
Speaker 4: use coins that much anymore. When's the last time I
48:50
Speaker 4: used one? I used to only use them for the
48:52
Speaker 4: parking meter. They've released two bluey coins. They're called Just
48:57
Speaker 4: in Time for Christmas their Bluey Dollar Buck. If you're
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Speaker 4: familiar with the show, as Jamie and I are moms
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Speaker 4: of young kids. But get this, they're selling for twenty
49:08
Speaker 4: dollars a pop in the case of the gold one
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Speaker 4: and one hundred dollars a pop in the case of
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Speaker 4: a silver one.
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Speaker 5: Are you going to be buying one for your kids?
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Speaker 2: Certainly not for one hundred dollars because mine will not
49:17
Speaker 2: appreciate it and throw it.
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Speaker 1: Not a very good return on investment that point, But
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Speaker 1: thank you for joining us this evening. Up. Next is
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Speaker 1: the reader Pany show