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Chuck & Buck 12-15 Hour 2: 12th Man News with Gregg Bell, more Hawk talk and Coach speaks! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Myers kick on the way.
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Speaker 2: It is.
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Speaker 3: Meyer's delivers Seahawks up by two, as Myers is the
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Speaker 3: first Seattle kicker ever with six field goals.
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Speaker 2: In a game.
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Speaker 1: Hey, good Monday morning to you.
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Speaker 4: It is Chuck Buck and Ashley with you is Greg
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Speaker 4: Bell will join us in a matter of moments to
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Speaker 4: recap that game from yesterday. I was gonna say exciting.
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Speaker 4: I don't know if it was exciting. I don't know
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Speaker 4: if it's excited, very stressful. Six field goals from Jason
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Speaker 4: Myers and the Seahawks do find a way to defeat
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Speaker 4: the Indianapolis Colts and Philip Rivers by a final score
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Speaker 4: of eighteen to sixteen. The Hawks moved to eleven and
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Speaker 4: three on the year, five and two at home, by
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Speaker 4: the way with the two point win, and now get
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Speaker 4: ready for the game of the year this Thursday, Thursday
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Speaker 4: Night Football, they will host the Los Angeles Rams with
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Speaker 4: first place on the line. Both teams eleven and three
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Speaker 4: on the season. So much to discuss today with our insiders.
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Speaker 4: Greg here in about two minutes. Hugh Milling at eight o'clock,
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Speaker 4: Mike Homeran at nine o'clock. Here on a Monday morning,
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Speaker 4: quarterback let's rip through the your other headlines though brought
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Speaker 4: to you by Frostbrewed Corps Light Shoes Chill. Patrick Mahomes
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Speaker 4: injured his knee at the end of the Kansas City
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Speaker 4: Chiefs lost to the Los Angeles Chargers. It was a
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Speaker 4: loss that knocked them from the playoffs any contention for
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Speaker 4: the playoffs, i should say, and Mahomes also suffered a
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Speaker 4: torn ACL, so he will certainly miss the rest of
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Speaker 4: this season, and he will miss a portion of next
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Speaker 4: season as well, at least that is the thought. Micah
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Speaker 4: Parsons of the Green Bay Packers also tore his ACL
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Speaker 4: yesterday and a loss to the Denver Broncos. He will
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Speaker 4: miss the rest of the season. Davante Adams injured a
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Speaker 4: hamstring at the end of the Rams win over the
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Speaker 4: Detroit Lions, and so seems kind of far fetched that
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Speaker 4: he might be ready to go in time to play
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Speaker 4: on a short week Thursday against the Seahawks, but we
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Speaker 4: shall see. Monday Night football will close out this week
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Speaker 4: in the National Football League. It'll be the Miami Dolphins,
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Speaker 4: who have been hot just a game under five hundred
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Speaker 4: at Pittsburgh against the Steelers, who are just a game
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Speaker 4: over five hundred college football all sorts of news. Over
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Speaker 4: the weekend. You dubbed thirty eight ten winners over Boise State.
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Speaker 5: And the LA Bowl.
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Speaker 4: Army did lose to Navy, which we'll talk more to
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Speaker 4: about with Greg Bell here in a matter of moments.
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Speaker 5: Be careful, I'm not gonna be sensitive.
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Speaker 6: Oh wowow what I said to him on Friday before Wow.
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Speaker 5: Jeez.
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Speaker 4: Fernando Mendoza won the Heisman Trophy the Indiana quarterback and
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Speaker 4: the Michigan Wolverines have still not hired their next head coach,
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Speaker 4: which pretty much puts every fan base in America on
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Speaker 4: blast waiting to see which domino will fall in that area.
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Speaker 4: The college football playoff will start this Friday with Bama
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Speaker 4: at Oklahoma. Stove news over the weekend.
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Speaker 2: Or A.
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Speaker 4: Polanco is not returning to the Mariners. He signed a
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Speaker 4: two year, forty million dollar deal to become a member
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Speaker 4: of the New York Mets. The Kraken have lost eight
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Speaker 4: of nine games and we'll try to get right tomorrow
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Speaker 4: at home against the Colorado Avalanche. So those are your
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Speaker 4: headlines here. A lot going on. One other note, I
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Speaker 4: should certainly pass on you dub soccer playing for the
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Speaker 4: men's Championship game tonight against NC State four pm. Finally,
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Speaker 4: some bragging rights over Will Brinson that jerk. Four pm.
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Speaker 4: That's when that match will get started. It will be
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Speaker 4: on ESBNU. So go Dogs. Best of luck to Washington
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Speaker 4: as they try to win the soccer title tonight, Let's
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Speaker 4: talk some football with Greg Bell with the Bell totals.
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Speaker 7: It must be seven o'clock and time for twelfth Man
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Speaker 7: Now with twelfth Man News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck
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Speaker 7: and bund.
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Speaker 2: I.
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Speaker 4: Sure hope your weekend went well despite the fact that
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Speaker 4: Ashley's a little bit of a jerk about you know,
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Speaker 4: the things she says, and that things didn't quite turn
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Speaker 4: out the way you wanted them to on Saturday. Are
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Speaker 4: you all right?
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Speaker 2: Oh? Good morning? Fortunately the Army Davy. One of the
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Speaker 2: magical things of it is that it's so much more
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Speaker 2: than the game itself. It was a reunion for me.
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Speaker 2: I got to see at the end of the first quarter.
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Speaker 2: At the end at every Army Davy game we meet
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Speaker 2: behind one of the sections and have a class picture.
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Speaker 2: And every year I'd see guys from my class that
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Speaker 2: I had seen in thirty years, twenty years, ten years,
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Speaker 2: five years, and we catch up. And that's what happened
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Speaker 2: on Saturday. And I missed most of the second quarter
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Speaker 2: because I was catching up with guys and Giles I
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Speaker 2: hadn't seen in a while. So we had ind sparracks,
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Speaker 2: which is the basic training for West Point cadets. You
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Speaker 2: very first day, when you are dropped off our day,
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Speaker 2: you go into a squad of ten and those are
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Speaker 2: your day ones, as the kids saying, those are the
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Speaker 2: people you go all the way through be sparricks with
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Speaker 2: and there today. See it's your worst and toughest and
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Speaker 2: when you're stressed, you want those first ten. The East
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Speaker 2: squad five of them were there and that was cool.
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Speaker 2: I got five of my Day one and caught up
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Speaker 2: with and pictures. That was great, so great, Yes, it was.
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Speaker 4: And your son to be a part of it with.
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Speaker 2: You that first time he's been. He was blown away.
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Speaker 5: Wow.
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Speaker 2: We were on the field for the end of the
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Speaker 2: game and man if the kid had just fallen. The
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Speaker 2: sense of them had just fallen on that fumble, they
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Speaker 2: probably win. And you tried to scoop it up and
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Speaker 2: run ninety seven.
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Speaker 5: I'd get it.
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Speaker 2: He could have been an immortal for scooping it up
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Speaker 2: and run ninety seven yards in the Army Navy game
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Speaker 2: for touchdown. So he tried that and he lost the
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Speaker 2: ball and maybe score. But yeah, that's always a thrilling event,
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Speaker 2: the whole thing, the scene. I keep saying it. But
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Speaker 2: if you've never gone, and you're a sports fan and
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Speaker 2: you had the means, I would so highly recommend you
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Speaker 2: go to an Army Navy game. It's it's unparalleled.
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Speaker 4: Did Mike McDonald give you a condolences when he saw
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Speaker 4: you yesterday?
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Speaker 2: He didn't. I thought he might, actually, Yeah, I think
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Speaker 2: he saw how disheveled and exhausted I was. I went
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Speaker 2: straight from the It was snowing in Baltimore yesterday morning,
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Speaker 2: and so we were sitting on the tarmac for two
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Speaker 2: hours after we pushed away from the gate waiting to
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Speaker 2: get de iced. So when we landed, that was only
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Speaker 2: like ten am. We didn't land till afternoon. So I
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Speaker 2: went straight from the airport too. I changed in the
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Speaker 2: Sea Tack parking garage bathroom and put on the dressier clothes.
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Speaker 2: I went straight from the airport to the stadium and
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Speaker 2: I was, yeah, I'm sorry, News Tribune readers, that was
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Speaker 2: my best game story in the history of the Earth. Yesterday.
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Speaker 4: What was the reaction in the locker room players coaches
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Speaker 4: to having faced Philip Rivers in the story of the
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Speaker 4: Week in the National.
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Speaker 2: Football Room this year. I thought Bier and Murphy put
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Speaker 2: it best. He said to me, I said, what do
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Speaker 2: you expect facing Rivers and trying to get to him
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Speaker 2: and all that was that we'd expected. He said, I
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Speaker 2: didn't know what to expect. He said, I didn't know
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Speaker 2: if he was going to come out and rip it.
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Speaker 2: I didn't know if he could barely move. Devin Witherspoon
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Speaker 2: said he'd never been quite sick this way, but he
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Speaker 2: said what was different was that the defensive backs had
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Speaker 2: to adjust to how slow the passes were coming and
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Speaker 2: that the balls were fluttering. It was like facing Phil
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Speaker 2: nicro as a quarterback or Tim Wakefield. He said that
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Speaker 2: they were miss timing getting to receivers and sometimes being late,
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Speaker 2: sometimes being early. They got a couple of passive ferance
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Speaker 2: penalties Josh Job in particular, in the first half, they
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Speaker 2: were not used to the change ups that Rivers were throwing.
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Speaker 2: He was throwing. I mean even his bubble screens were fluttering.
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Speaker 2: It was way different. Now, having said all of that,
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Speaker 2: I thought there were still a couple of grandpa moments,
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Speaker 2: didn't you, Like in the first half when he just
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Speaker 2: fell down and then got up and just felled down bracelet.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yet they were just throwing all short passes for a while.
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Speaker 2: He wasn't throwing anything beyond five yards, And in fact,
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Speaker 2: in the second quarter, Rivers threw it beyond ten yards
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Speaker 2: for the first time in the game, and his receiver
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Speaker 2: Downs number two down the left sideline had beaten Josh Job,
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Speaker 2: it would have been a touchdown. But Downs didn't even
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Speaker 2: look up for the ball, and he's like, well, there's
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Speaker 2: no way your grandpa's gonna throw it this far, and
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Speaker 2: it landed like two yards inside of him at his feet.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember that, yes, yeah, but
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Speaker 2: if he that, I'm sure that's because Downs was like,
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Speaker 2: he's not gonna throw it this far, and there was
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Speaker 2: it would have been a touchdown. I'd been looking for
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Speaker 2: the ball so it took the Seahawks about a quarter
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Speaker 2: and a half to figure all that out. That's how
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Speaker 2: they started the game far too soft and coverage way
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Speaker 2: too far off and allowing the culture just run two
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Speaker 2: or three yard routs right in front of them. They
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Speaker 2: got tighter in the second quarter, but still they should
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Speaker 2: have gone eleven across the front honestly to take away
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Speaker 2: run lanes and then just challenge the receivers to try
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Speaker 2: to go buy them because Rivers was not going to
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Speaker 2: throw deep. I can count like three times I remember
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Speaker 2: Rivers throwing further than ten twelve yards, including the last
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Speaker 2: play of the game when Weather's been tipped it to
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Speaker 2: Josh Joe for the interception. I think I saw the
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Speaker 2: stat that of the twenty seven throws that Rivers had yesterday,
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Speaker 2: eighteen of them were below ten yards in the air,
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Speaker 2: and so I thought it took the Seahawks way too
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Speaker 2: long to change And after the game, McDonald said, yeah,
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Speaker 2: it was a massive departure from what the Colts usually
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Speaker 2: do offensively and that we had to change it up
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Speaker 2: as well. I thought they should have plastered and like
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Speaker 2: I said, it'd been eleven across the line of screwage yeah.
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Speaker 8: I mean, it seemed like the Colts had a good
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Speaker 8: game plan of how to use an aging guy that
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Speaker 8: hasn't really been in the building, because just to me,
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Speaker 8: it feels like the further you go downfield, the more
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Speaker 8: the lack of timing is going to be in you know,
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Speaker 8: in rhythm with the guys. And yet they moved the ball.
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Speaker 8: I mean, there's got to be some sort of concern.
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Speaker 8: You ended getting a w so the concern shouldn't be excessive,
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Speaker 8: is it? Is it nothing on the concern of what
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Speaker 8: they did defensively because you held a team to sixteen points?
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Speaker 8: Is it just more so the offensive woes the fact
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Speaker 8: that you didn't score a touchdown.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'd underlined it. And you almost had to be
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Speaker 2: perfect defensively to stay in the game because how the
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Speaker 2: offense was alfunctioning, especially at third down the red zone.
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Speaker 2: It was I think you were two for thirteen on
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Speaker 2: third down. The key to the game was stopping Jonathan Taylor.
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Speaker 2: It was that coming into it and it was going
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Speaker 2: out of it. In the first quarter and a half,
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Speaker 2: let's just call it the first half, he had sixteen carries.
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Speaker 2: He was averaging nineteen carries a game coming in and
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Speaker 2: he had sixteen. By halftime, he had fifty eight yards.
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Speaker 2: He ended up with just eleven yards in the second half.
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Speaker 2: To me, that was the key to the game because
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Speaker 2: in the first half the Colts their first seven drives
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Speaker 2: in the game. Until deep in the third quarter, they
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Speaker 2: had run on multiple plays multiple times in a row
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Speaker 2: to start a drive. Every time two or three times
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Speaker 2: in a row they ran this begins drives. That happened
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Speaker 2: seven consecutive drives, So what's that mean. The Colts game
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Speaker 2: plan was that they were going to run on first
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Speaker 2: and second down, so that it was third and short
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Speaker 2: instead of third and nine. And the game turned when
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Speaker 2: the Seahawks stopped Taylor elimited him on first and second down.
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Speaker 2: And that was in the third quarter, and the Colts
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Speaker 2: only scored three points in the second half because the
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Speaker 2: runs on first and second down didn't go anywhere, and
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Speaker 2: instead of third and two and three, it was third
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Speaker 2: and nine and ten, and that's when the Seahawks got
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Speaker 2: after Rivers affected him and he couldn't throw well beyond
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Speaker 2: ten yards down the field on third and three. It
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Speaker 2: doesn't matter if you're throwing five yard outs, see you,
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Speaker 2: we'll get the first down. On third and nine, third
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Speaker 2: and ten, you throw five yard outs your putting. That's
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Speaker 2: honestly what the difference in the game was that once
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Speaker 2: the sex limited Taylor to just eleven yards of the
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Speaker 2: second half, they stopped them from scoring but three points.
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Speaker 2: That was the key to the game. It's easier said
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Speaker 2: than done. Taylor was dragging defenders in the first half.
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Speaker 2: They started when they hit him, bringing them down in
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Speaker 2: the second half instead of getting dragged, and that was
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Speaker 2: a difference between third and three and third and eight.
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Speaker 4: Greg bellis whether it's our Seahawks insider of course, Seahawks
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Speaker 4: winning yesterday over the Indianapolis Colts barely eighteen to sixteen,
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Speaker 4: and Philip rivers. If you want to follow Greg and
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Speaker 4: his coverage thenews Tremmune dot com also at chi Bel Seattle.
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Speaker 4: What was the message? What was the wording that was
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Speaker 4: used by Clint Kubiak on the sidelines when he huddled
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Speaker 4: up an offense that did not score a touchdown all
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Speaker 4: day long?
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Speaker 2: Well, the player said he was as animated he's been
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Speaker 2: all year, and he was pretty fired up near the
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Speaker 2: end of the game before they went out and drove
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Speaker 2: down the field. Let's go back. I think the hero
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Speaker 2: of the game was Mike McDonald. When there was a
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Speaker 2: minute twelve left, when Josh Joe gave up that third
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Speaker 2: down completion to Tyler Warren the tight end on the
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Speaker 2: left sideline, it was third and seven. The Seahorks look
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Speaker 2: even get the ball back in goodstead to win the game,
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Speaker 2: and then Joe gives up a third and sent the
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Speaker 2: coach probably would have gone on fourth down of course
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Speaker 2: there too, but it was a fifteen to thirteen game.
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Speaker 2: The Colts had just crossed midfield. They were at the
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Speaker 2: forty nine of the Seahawks with one twelve left, and
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Speaker 2: that's when McDonald started using his timeouts. And there was
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Speaker 2: some murmuring in the press box with my colleagues on
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Speaker 2: what they were doing there, because that's a sixty some
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Speaker 2: yard field goal from there, so why are you taking
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Speaker 2: your defensive timeouts? Then well, McDonald assumed rightly that worst case,
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Speaker 2: if they do somehow kick a field goal from here,
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Speaker 2: or if they start getting first downs, I need to
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Speaker 2: get my offense, leave my offense enough time to operate.
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Speaker 2: And after the game, Sam Donald said, we played that mean.
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Speaker 2: McDonald played that perfectly, because as a quarterback, I'd rather
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Speaker 2: have fifty seconds and no timeouts, then twenty or fifteen
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Speaker 2: seconds with two timeouts, and he explained, he kind of inferred,
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Speaker 2: he didn't quite explain, but their difference is with fifty
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Speaker 2: seconds and no timeouts, you can throw the ball anywhere
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Speaker 2: middle of the field, down deep down the field, because
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Speaker 2: there's still enough time if you catch it in bounds
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Speaker 2: to run your offense up and spike the ball. When
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Speaker 2: you have twenty or fifteen seconds but two timeouts, you're
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Speaker 2: somewhat limited there. You can only do that one or
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Speaker 2: two times if you have a time out left. And
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Speaker 2: sure enough, the Colts play exactly as McDonald had guessed.
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Speaker 2: The Colts played for a field goal from sixty yards.
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Speaker 2: They ran Jonathan Taylor on first down, They ran Jonathan
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Speaker 2: Taylor on a third and four to set up a
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Speaker 2: sixty yard field Who does that? And then the kicker
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Speaker 2: Shane Steichen is right. His kicker made a sixty yard
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Speaker 2: field goal with like three or four yards of spare.
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Speaker 2: But because McDonald used all three of his timeouts on
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Speaker 2: defense in that sequence, when the Colts are running twice
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Speaker 2: and three downs and throwing in bounds on the third play,
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Speaker 2: then the Seahawks had forty seven seconds when they got
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Speaker 2: the ball back, Rashid Shaheed makes a great kickoff return.
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Speaker 2: That was a poor kick by the way, is landed
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Speaker 2: like a seven yard He just can't do that. You
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Speaker 2: got to give a make it more of a challenge
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Speaker 2: to the goal line. It was a short kickoff Rashid
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Speaker 2: from the seven to the thirty seven. It was their
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Speaker 2: second best drive start of the game. There were ten
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Speaker 2: on their own goal line the whole game, but there
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Speaker 2: they were at the thirty seven. One pass on an
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Speaker 2: interro out to Shihed, another eight yard passed the sheet
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Speaker 2: and there in field goal range with just two completions
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Speaker 2: thanks to Shied's kick return. After the game, you know
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Speaker 2: how they give game balls. Devin Witherspoon and Niki mo
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Speaker 2: Worry have gotten them. Jackson Smith and Jigger was collecting
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Speaker 2: them for the year he's had. Mike mcdond in the
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Speaker 2: locker room gave the lot the game bowl to Brian Ayres,
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Speaker 2: his lead research analyst, because Errs was up in the
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Speaker 2: press box telling Mike McDonald to use his timeouts, and
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Speaker 2: he said that Errs was so convicted about it and
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Speaker 2: was so convincing about it that he had to do it.
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Speaker 2: He said he was kind of on the fence whether
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Speaker 2: to do it from midfield, but errors convinced him to
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Speaker 2: do it. It won the game. If they had let most
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Speaker 2: coaches would have not used those timeouts until field. The
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Speaker 2: Colts were in better field goal more conventional field goal range,
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Speaker 2: airs convinced McDonald to use him when he did. Air's
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Speaker 2: got a game ball for giving the offense the chance
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Speaker 2: to win the game.
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Speaker 4: Jason Myers has to be what the f What do
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Speaker 4: I got to do? What a kicker got to do
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Speaker 4: to get a game ball?
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Speaker 5: Around? Here?
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Speaker 2: Can we cut that ball in half? Truth be told?
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Speaker 2: Truth be told. They give out multiple game balls, and
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Speaker 2: I'm sure Jason Myers going to all right, yeah, in.
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Speaker 4: Our last minute before we got to ask about Thursday.
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's going to be here before you know it,
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Speaker 4: and so here we go. Are they ready? I mean
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Speaker 4: they're not playing as good as football as they were
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Speaker 4: I think the last time they faced the Rams. Are
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Speaker 4: they ready for this?
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Speaker 2: I don't think they're ready right now because they can't
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Speaker 2: a lot of guys can't even walk on Monday morning.
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Speaker 2: But they will get there, and their offense has to
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Speaker 2: be better. Just that's nothing no great shakes to that.
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Speaker 2: They got to be better on third down. But I
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Speaker 2: will say this, they are good enough. If their quarterback
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Speaker 2: doesn't turn the ball over, they win. The biggest thing
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Speaker 2: Sam Donald did yesterday is he didn't turn the ball over.
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Speaker 2: He led the league in the sixteen turnovers. He almost
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Speaker 2: lost one when he fumbled it, but it went out
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Speaker 2: of bounds in the second quarter. But if he hasn't
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Speaker 2: turned the ball over, the two games throw out the
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Speaker 2: JV game at the end of last season. The two
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Speaker 2: games the McDonald and McVay have gone head to head.
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Speaker 2: McDonald's schemes have limited the Rams offense. They made Stafford
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Speaker 2: look like something like a forty four year old Philip
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Speaker 2: rivers Don in Inglewood last month. And if Donald doesn't
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Speaker 2: throw four interceptions, they win that game. They lost twenty
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Speaker 2: one to nineteen. When the quarterback the four interceptions and
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Speaker 2: handed the Rams they're three touchdowns. The McDonald's got confidence
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Speaker 2: that he can shut them down. The key to the
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Speaker 2: game is that Donald can't give the Rams a short field.
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Speaker 2: Donald doesn't turn it over. The defense is playing at
18:52
Speaker 2: the level that they can beat the Rams. The problem
18:55
Speaker 2: now is the forty nine ers aren't losing either. So
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Speaker 2: now you have two of these, you got battle Royals.
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Speaker 2: It's gonna beat the Rams in the forty nine ers
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Speaker 2: to win the division. But yeah, they're not ready today, guys.
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Speaker 2: They won't even be ready Wednesday. Let me tell you.
19:08
Speaker 2: NFL players are not ready to play Thursday night games.
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Speaker 2: But they're gonna have to be ready physically. The Rams
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Speaker 2: are in the same boat, of course. But yeah, Sam
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Speaker 2: Donald holds the keys of this game on Thursday.
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Speaker 4: All Right, we'll go get some rest. I mean, you
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Speaker 4: gotta be ready for next year's Army Navy game and that.
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Speaker 2: Starts today, especially because it's in New York. But yes,
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Speaker 2: I won't get rest.
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Speaker 5: Thank you, all right.
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Speaker 1: Hey, happy Monday, everybody. Good to have you with us.
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Speaker 4: My name is Chuck Powell, Bucky Jacob since here, Ashley
20:18
Speaker 4: Ryan is here. Monday morning. Quarterback coming your way at
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Speaker 4: eight o'clock. Hugh Mill and Mike Home We're gonna be
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Speaker 4: with us from eight to ten to talk about the
20:24
Speaker 4: Seahawks eighteen sixteen went over the Indianapolis Colts. Yeah, I
20:29
Speaker 4: did believe that. I was kind of surprised that the
20:33
Speaker 4: lack of aggression that our defense showed. It kind of
20:36
Speaker 4: felt like we're just not gonna let anything get behind us.
20:41
Speaker 4: I don't think he was capable of getting anything behind you. Frankly,
20:46
Speaker 4: so I was. As Greg pointed out, they were even
20:50
Speaker 4: surprised at the changeups that he was throwing. It did
20:55
Speaker 4: seem like a lack of aggression. I kind of thought
20:59
Speaker 4: that they were gonna be as bee hivey as they've
21:01
Speaker 4: ever been. And I don't know if I saw that.
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Speaker 5: I didn't. I didn't feel.
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Speaker 8: I mean, I he can throw the ball over if
21:08
Speaker 8: you just put eleven right up there and just said
21:11
Speaker 8: we don't think he can throw it beyond ten fifteen yards.
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Speaker 5: I mean he can. Is he gonna be successful at it?
21:17
Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 5: I don't.
21:17
Speaker 8: I think that that would have been a really tall
21:21
Speaker 8: task to ask a guy to do when he doesn't
21:24
Speaker 8: know any of these receivers he's throwing too, he doesn't
21:26
Speaker 8: really know what the defense is all about. I think
21:29
Speaker 8: that he probably comes into it knowing this is different
21:32
Speaker 8: than anything I've seen before how they disguise things. But
21:35
Speaker 8: you weren't gonna probably put him in a situation that's
21:37
Speaker 8: going to inevitably turn into turnovers. Probably you're gonna rely
21:42
Speaker 8: on your defense, rely on your run game. I mean
21:44
Speaker 8: I didn't feel like they were not trying to be
21:48
Speaker 8: like a beehive. I just think the game plan made
21:50
Speaker 8: it to where we're gonna get rid of the ball
21:53
Speaker 8: before he has to move even move around in the pocket.
21:56
Speaker 8: Because that one, you know, slip and fall thing that
21:58
Speaker 8: he did. Yeah, it looked like you just had her
22:00
Speaker 8: shoes on, like he didn't have cleats, probably because he
22:03
Speaker 8: didn't want to get those things stuck in the ground.
22:05
Speaker 8: And when he's getting twisted up on because he just
22:07
Speaker 8: isn't gonna be as strong holding up another dude and
22:10
Speaker 8: trying to go down in a way that isn't going
22:12
Speaker 8: to get you twisted up and hurt, and and so
22:14
Speaker 8: to me, it just felt like their game plan was,
22:17
Speaker 8: there are this is a beehive that's coming after us.
22:19
Speaker 5: We're just not going to let him get there.
22:20
Speaker 8: We're gonna just dump it off and then hopefully it
22:23
Speaker 8: happens when we need it and there's a third and eight,
22:27
Speaker 8: then we're gonna trust that he's gonna throw it where
22:29
Speaker 8: it's supposed to be and out of danger. And he
22:31
Speaker 8: did that two or three times. It just was not
22:33
Speaker 8: the They weren't going to try to push it down
22:35
Speaker 8: the field because then you have to make sure that
22:37
Speaker 8: nobody gets even near him, because I don't know if
22:39
Speaker 8: he was going to be able to move around to
22:40
Speaker 8: the pocket at all.
22:41
Speaker 9: Yeah, they definitely got the ball away very quickly.
22:43
Speaker 6: But there was numerous times that I was yelling, like,
22:45
Speaker 6: why are we I just I assume going into that
22:47
Speaker 6: game that we were gonna sack him fifteen times?
22:49
Speaker 9: I kinda do, right and so.
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Speaker 4: And if not, and if not, if he was going
22:54
Speaker 4: to try to avoid that and was just gonna throw
22:56
Speaker 4: the ball just to get rid of h Yeah, then
22:58
Speaker 4: if you didn't get fifteen. I thought you would get
23:01
Speaker 4: three picks.
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Speaker 9: Yes, I agreed, I didn't get your one.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, to get the pick at the very end, to
23:05
Speaker 6: have that be your only one, the whole thing surprised me.
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Speaker 4: I won sack too, I'm not mistaken. One and a
23:11
Speaker 4: meaningless desperation interception and that was it. So certainly I
23:17
Speaker 4: was surprised. And if anybody tuned in to hear me
23:21
Speaker 4: say that I was wrong, I clearly was wrong too.
23:24
Speaker 4: I went really strong on Philip Rivers as no chance,
23:28
Speaker 4: and he was functional, certainly functional, and I'm glad that
23:32
Speaker 4: he was because it made for a more entertaining game.
23:35
Speaker 4: I'm not so sure I'd been glad had we lost,
23:38
Speaker 4: which it kind of felt like we might do there
23:41
Speaker 4: toward the end. But in eighteen sixteen went over the Seahawks.
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Speaker 4: But there is really no reason to beat around the
23:46
Speaker 4: bush on this thing. This one's in the rear view mirror.
23:49
Speaker 4: It's a win. You moved to eleven and three, well,
23:52
Speaker 4: the top heavy NFC. That doesn't even guarantee you a
23:55
Speaker 4: spot in the playoffs. You know, at this stage in
23:58
Speaker 4: the process, there's still a scenario in which you don't
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Speaker 4: even make the playoffs with an eleven and three record,
24:03
Speaker 4: and then when it comes to the division, you got
24:06
Speaker 4: three teams with ten wins or more. And so here
24:10
Speaker 4: we go, last three games of the regular season. There's
24:14
Speaker 4: no reason to stand on ceremony. Usually we don't start
24:17
Speaker 4: previewing the next opponent till Wednesday. On Thursday games, we'll
24:23
Speaker 4: start on Tuesday. F that we start today because the
24:27
Speaker 4: Rams are this Thursday game of the year at home.
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Speaker 5: Let's get it on. Well, this is a huge game.
24:33
Speaker 8: I mean for the big game factor that doesn't happen
24:36
Speaker 8: in April of baseball season. This is a game where
24:40
Speaker 8: you're getting down to the end of the year. You're
24:41
Speaker 8: sitting there at eleven and three, and typically you'd be like, okay,
24:44
Speaker 8: locked up a playoff spot.
24:46
Speaker 5: The Rams locked up one with their win.
24:49
Speaker 8: Now that's just because they at this point hold that
24:52
Speaker 8: kind of half game tiebreaker over the Seahawks because they
24:55
Speaker 8: beat him once before. But this game comes down to,
24:59
Speaker 8: I mean, if if you want to win the division,
25:01
Speaker 8: it almost feels pretty musty that you end up needing
25:04
Speaker 8: to win this one, because otherwise you're going to have
25:05
Speaker 8: to win the last two and hope they lose the
25:07
Speaker 8: last two in order to win the division over them.
25:09
Speaker 8: So if you want to control your own destiny, you
25:12
Speaker 8: got to win on Thursday. And then it's the idea
25:15
Speaker 8: of the fact that it isn't just a two team race,
25:18
Speaker 8: the fact that the Niners are right there behind you
25:20
Speaker 8: as well. It makes it a very intriguing story. Going
25:23
Speaker 8: into the final three weeks of the season. You start thinking, Okay, well,
25:26
Speaker 8: this is the Rams toughest game for sure, because they
25:29
Speaker 8: got the Cardinals and the Falcons after that, and then
25:33
Speaker 8: the Niners have. You have one against the Niners. Their
25:37
Speaker 8: schedule is not necessarily in their favor for them to
25:40
Speaker 8: jump up and sniper you as well. But you basically
25:44
Speaker 8: lose this one, it'll add a whole bunch of pressure
25:47
Speaker 8: going into that Carolina game. You'll all of a sudden
25:49
Speaker 8: be like, wait a minute, we drop this one, and
25:52
Speaker 8: then we have to play against the Niners, who then
25:54
Speaker 8: might be in front of you.
25:55
Speaker 5: Then you're just fighting.
25:56
Speaker 8: I mean you right now, three weeks left and you
25:59
Speaker 8: have the chance of getting the number one seed in
26:02
Speaker 8: the NFC a bye, win the division, or you have
26:06
Speaker 8: a chance of being third in your division of possibly
26:08
Speaker 8: on the outside looking in. That's you'd have to have
26:12
Speaker 8: a kind of a meltdown. You'd have to have a
26:14
Speaker 8: lot of bad luck in the final three games of
26:16
Speaker 8: this thing to lose all three of them, I think.
26:18
Speaker 8: But it's not like it's out of the rowned possibility.
26:20
Speaker 8: So this is a big week coming up for them.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, usually you're eleven and three, you're you're sitting there
26:26
Speaker 4: already having locked up a spot. But there is a scenario.
26:29
Speaker 4: And the reason that the Rams clenched yesterday is because
26:32
Speaker 4: of their win over Detroit.
26:33
Speaker 5: We don't have that tiebreaker.
26:35
Speaker 4: Uh So that's that's why they clinched yesterday, because Detroit
26:39
Speaker 4: is the team that can take it from you here
26:42
Speaker 4: down the stretch. But but yes, Seahawks versus Rams this Thursday,
26:47
Speaker 4: and Ashley, I mean the last time we played the Rams.
26:51
Speaker 4: That's as well as the Seahawks were playing this entire season.
26:56
Speaker 4: You had the back to back quality wins against the
26:59
Speaker 4: Jaguars and ten, who still weren't what they are right now, right,
27:03
Speaker 4: but you had those big and then you had the
27:04
Speaker 4: bye week, and then you came out of the bye
27:06
Speaker 4: week and played your most complete game when you just
27:09
Speaker 4: absolutely dominated Washington, doubled up Arizona, and I feel, and
27:14
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm alone in this, but I might
27:16
Speaker 4: be in the minority that you outplayed the Rams even
27:19
Speaker 4: though you lost the game, But since that time, had
27:22
Speaker 4: a sloppy game against Tennessee Vikings, game where it took
27:26
Speaker 4: you a little while to get cranked up, even though
27:28
Speaker 4: you ended up winning in lopsided fashion. Same thing happened
27:31
Speaker 4: the following week against the Falcons, and then this game
27:33
Speaker 4: against the Colts where you don't even score an offensive touchdown.
27:36
Speaker 4: I feel like we were playing better football when we
27:39
Speaker 4: were playing the Rams the first time than what we're
27:41
Speaker 4: playing right now.
27:42
Speaker 6: Yeah, offensively for sure, and that is the big concern
27:45
Speaker 6: to go in against that tough defense and with our
27:48
Speaker 6: slow start to our offense. I mean, I said it earlier,
27:50
Speaker 6: you can't win a football game with one quarter of
27:54
Speaker 6: good football again, and you brought you pointed out against
27:57
Speaker 6: a good team exactly, that's.
27:58
Speaker 9: What you can't do.
27:59
Speaker 6: So you got to figure it out and get your
28:01
Speaker 6: stuff together before Thursday. Defensive your stuff together, Yeah, defensively,
28:05
Speaker 6: I think, I mean, gosh, they had to go into that.
28:09
Speaker 6: That Tennessee game was probably the one where it was
28:11
Speaker 6: like the weakest I think for them, But other than that,
28:14
Speaker 6: they've been pretty stellar.
28:16
Speaker 4: Uh well, yeah, I mean it's a great defense. I
28:20
Speaker 4: was a little surprised they were more aggressive yesterday yea,
28:23
Speaker 4: but certainly they've been playing great defense all season long.
28:27
Speaker 4: So here we go. We'll talk a little bit about
28:30
Speaker 4: it with Hugh and with coach today as we get
28:33
Speaker 4: ready for Thursday night football against the Rams coming up next.
28:36
Speaker 4: We're gonna hear from Mike McDonald. We always play some
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Speaker 4: will be with us, you millen to break all of
29:37
Speaker 4: this down. Always interested to see where he wants to
29:40
Speaker 4: go first when reacting to a Seahawks game, because there
29:43
Speaker 4: are a lot of big subjects that we can discuss
29:46
Speaker 4: over the course of the next couple of hours. Mike
29:49
Speaker 4: McDonald talking about how difficult wins are to come by
29:53
Speaker 4: in this league, and yet they've come by eleven and
29:55
Speaker 4: fourteen games. Sunday didn't look as pretty as anybody really
29:59
Speaker 4: wanted here in Seattle, but it is an eighteen to
30:02
Speaker 4: sixteen win. And of course his strategy down the stretch,
30:08
Speaker 4: in his use of timeouts was as important as anything
30:12
Speaker 4: that happened in the game. Here's coach explaining it.
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Speaker 10: Well, it's kind of a function of like, hey, you know,
30:18
Speaker 10: as is this kind of declared as the last possession
30:21
Speaker 10: even though they still had three timeouts. You know, just
30:25
Speaker 10: you're trying to figure out a way like if you know,
30:26
Speaker 10: if it doesn't go your way, you got a chance
30:28
Speaker 10: to come back and win it. So and Brian heres
30:31
Speaker 10: did a phenomenal job managing it, and he was really decisive.
30:34
Speaker 10: And and then then really I gave him a lot
30:38
Speaker 10: of credit. Game got a game ball in the in
30:40
Speaker 10: the locker room because he really put us in position
30:42
Speaker 10: to go I still have a chance.
30:43
Speaker 2: To win the game.
30:44
Speaker 4: The calculations, I mean, you want to talk about analytics,
30:48
Speaker 4: you want to talk about a new world that we're
30:50
Speaker 4: living in. You'd have tried this just three years ago.
30:54
Speaker 4: People have been like, what is he doing? Yeah, this
30:57
Speaker 4: is insane. You're saving time for the Colts to move
31:01
Speaker 4: down the field. You're burning all three of your timeouts.
31:05
Speaker 4: Even if you get the ball back, You're leaving the
31:08
Speaker 4: Colts with three timeouts to give them a chance to
31:12
Speaker 4: get the ball back again. Against you, What are you doing?
31:15
Speaker 4: And it ends up that what he was doing was
31:18
Speaker 4: saving enough just enough time for Sam Darnold to get
31:21
Speaker 4: the team into field goal range where Jason Myers could
31:24
Speaker 4: win it with a sixth field goal of the day.
31:27
Speaker 4: I don't, I don't, I don't. I'm the math from it.
31:29
Speaker 4: I don't know one hundred percent no if it was
31:31
Speaker 4: the right thing to do, but it certainly turned out
31:34
Speaker 4: to be a game saver.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I mean I think that you basically are
31:40
Speaker 8: you know, we see it, You've seen it forever where
31:42
Speaker 8: it's like, if they get in the first down there,
31:44
Speaker 8: you're not going to be able to It's going to
31:46
Speaker 8: come down to the last second, right, which was basically
31:49
Speaker 8: you were trying to give yourself another chance if they
31:52
Speaker 8: make a field goal, and yet the fact that they didn't,
31:57
Speaker 8: they weren't really even trying to get the first down
31:59
Speaker 8: now or they just we're thinking Jonathan Taylor gives us
32:01
Speaker 8: the best chance and worst case scenario, he gets three
32:04
Speaker 8: or four yards closer, so it's a sixty yardfield goal
32:08
Speaker 8: instead of a sixty four yardfield goal sixty three yard
32:10
Speaker 8: field goal. But the idea of when he's going and
32:13
Speaker 8: burning those timeouts on defense, he's saying, Okay, we're going
32:17
Speaker 8: to stop them here and then hopefully they don't make
32:19
Speaker 8: the field field goal, but if they do, we can
32:22
Speaker 8: complete a couple passes, maybe get a good return, which
32:24
Speaker 8: they did complete a passeror two, and we're in field
32:27
Speaker 8: goal range and we spike the ball. That's essentially still
32:29
Speaker 8: getting be able to stop the clock. But the idea
32:33
Speaker 8: of the Colts saying how We're going to just go
32:35
Speaker 8: ahead and just trust that we can make a sixty
32:38
Speaker 8: yard field goal and then stop them, which is crazy
32:42
Speaker 8: in today's game with the kickoff rules. First of all,
32:45
Speaker 8: bad kickoff for I mean they get only kicks it
32:48
Speaker 8: like the nine or ten yard line, and it almost
32:50
Speaker 8: went out of bounds. Reshij Head ended up turning was
32:53
Speaker 8: maybe not a great decision in catching that ball, turns
32:57
Speaker 8: it into taking it back to almost to the forty
32:59
Speaker 8: to where with in one play you're the first what's.
33:02
Speaker 4: The modern game? Yeah, I mean with the kickoff, I
33:04
Speaker 4: mean he it was a bad kickoff because he's trying
33:07
Speaker 4: to trying to put it inside the five. He doesn't
33:09
Speaker 4: want it to go into the en zone because then
33:11
Speaker 4: they get it to the thirty five. He don't want
33:12
Speaker 4: to go out of bound because then they get it
33:13
Speaker 4: to the forty. And with Myers, who's damn near automatic.
33:18
Speaker 4: Now inside sixty yards, you know you're looking in today's game,
33:22
Speaker 4: you only have to complete like a fifteen yard pass
33:24
Speaker 4: in order to be in the field goal range. And
33:27
Speaker 4: so I didn't think group A had it in him
33:31
Speaker 4: to hit from sixty yards. I mean that's like the
33:33
Speaker 4: fifth kicker, the Colts have even used this year. Yeah,
33:36
Speaker 4: and he's like three foot one, Yeah, he is fieteen pounds.
33:39
Speaker 9: Palmer ken't be like, why is that guy so small?
33:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's got group a groupies. Now I'll tell
33:46
Speaker 4: you that he does, because he came through with a
33:48
Speaker 4: sixty yard field goal and it's a good thing. I mean,
33:51
Speaker 4: at the time, I'm wondering, WHOA, this is some interesting
33:54
Speaker 4: strategy and it turned out to be life saving. You
33:59
Speaker 4: don't win the game if you don't call those timeouts.
34:01
Speaker 4: You just don't.
34:01
Speaker 8: I mean, the fact of the matter is we're sitting
34:03
Speaker 8: here talking about a win, and a win is a win,
34:05
Speaker 8: and you get to take it. It doesn't matter how it looked.
34:08
Speaker 8: But there's multiple things down the stretch there where that
34:11
Speaker 8: was an abbreviated version of the Indianapolis Colts because they
34:15
Speaker 8: had a forty four year old guy just coming basically in,
34:19
Speaker 8: you know, not even having a full week of practice,
34:22
Speaker 8: and yet they end up he ends up completing a
34:25
Speaker 8: couple passes to get him in position to retake the lead.
34:28
Speaker 8: Because all you had been able to do is muster
34:30
Speaker 8: field goal after field goal, so you weren't distancing yourself.
34:33
Speaker 8: I mean it feels like if you just got a
34:34
Speaker 8: head by seven at one point in time, game over
34:37
Speaker 8: with your defense the way that they were trying to
34:39
Speaker 8: do their offense. But no, all you're doing is just
34:41
Speaker 8: going tick for tat and catching up with three points
34:44
Speaker 8: at a time. But yeah, I mean, it works out.
34:47
Speaker 8: It was a genius decision to call the timeouts the
34:49
Speaker 8: way they did because they didn't end up getting a
34:51
Speaker 8: first down. Otherwise they're doing a walk off field goal there,
34:54
Speaker 8: whether they make it or not, you know, who knows
34:57
Speaker 8: how that would have worked. But instead, I mean, and yeah,
35:00
Speaker 8: you just end up with the balls the way they
35:02
Speaker 8: get to doctor the kicking balls now, it seems like
35:06
Speaker 8: if you get a decent return back to thirty five,
35:08
Speaker 8: it just just they got a seventeen yard pass, an incompletion,
35:12
Speaker 8: and an eight yard pass and boom, they were well
35:14
Speaker 8: within Jason Myer's range to kick the game winner.
35:18
Speaker 5: So I just kind of lucked out there.
35:19
Speaker 4: There was fifty two seconds left, so even if Group
35:22
Speaker 4: A misses, the Colts still could have called their timeouts
35:25
Speaker 4: and gotten the ball back. Yeah, I mean that was
35:27
Speaker 4: you just wouldn't have seen this strategy implemented five years ago.
35:31
Speaker 4: I might even say three years ago, but the way
35:34
Speaker 4: that the game now works and the kickoff rules and
35:36
Speaker 4: the strength of these kickers legs these days, it was
35:41
Speaker 4: the right strategy.
35:42
Speaker 9: It really was.
35:43
Speaker 4: That's very clear. And we don't win that game if
35:46
Speaker 4: you don't implement that strategy. All right, Humel will join
35:49
Speaker 4: us next. Mike homg gonna be with us at nine
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