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Welcome to Truth in Motion with Dr. Jocelyn · Truth in Motion with Dr. Jocelyn

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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Truth in Motion with Dr.
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  SPEAKER_01: Jocelyn, where insight, clarity, and wisdom help you thrive.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for being here, and thank you especially for joining me for the very first episode of Truth in Motion.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm Dr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Jocelyn Mitchell.
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  SPEAKER_00: This podcast is for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you're tired of quick fixes and surface answers, if you want to know what's actually true about your body, your mind, and your spirit, if you're ready to grow even when it's uncomfortable, and if you'd rather walk with someone than be talked at.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's what we'll do here, 15 minutes at a time.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm starting this podcast as a fellow traveler, not as someone with all the answers.
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  SPEAKER_00: In fact, the more I know, the more questions I have.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have tools, knowledge, and a deep conviction about where we're headed, and I'd love to walk this road with you.
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  SPEAKER_00: So today I'd like to share with you more about who I am, why I decided to start a podcast when everybody seems to be having a podcast today.
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  SPEAKER_00: What would make this worth my time to create and your time to listen to and participate in?
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  SPEAKER_00: To share a little bit about me.
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  SPEAKER_00: My primary and first passion was teaching.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I was young, I always believed I would grow up and be an elementary school teacher.
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  SPEAKER_00: I originally went to college at the University of Wisconsin in Milwaukee, and my intention was to study elementary education.
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  SPEAKER_00: After participating in inner city schools, I felt like that really wasn't the best situation for me.
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  SPEAKER_00: I didn't think I could do an optimal job teaching in an urban environment, which was the emphasis at UWM.
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  SPEAKER_00: And everyone asks me, well, why didn't you just go to a different school?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, at that time, it never even occurred to me that I had that option.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I looked at other things that I loved.
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  SPEAKER_00: Alternative medicine had made a big difference in my life, primarily chiropractic care.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I was young, I had a lot of upper respiratory problems, chronic ear infections, bronchitis, just sick with a lot of stuff, a lot of strep throat.
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  SPEAKER_00: The first year that I really didn't have anything in my whole life was the year that I actually started getting chiropractic adjustments.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so that amazed me.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was on my radar.
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  SPEAKER_00: I decided to change my major.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think I ended up changing my major 17 times looking for what the right fit was and what had been suggested to me.
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  SPEAKER_00: And what I finally did decide to major in was psychology.
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  SPEAKER_00: I loved psychology.
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  SPEAKER_00: I enjoyed it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I did very well at it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was a part of Psychai, which is the Honor Society for Psychology students.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's what I graduated with my Bachelor's of Arts, Bachelor of Arts from the University of Wisconsin at Milwaukee.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then I had a decision to make.
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  SPEAKER_00: Did I continue to pursue seeking alternative medicine as a career?
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  SPEAKER_00: I had applied to Palmer College of Chiropractic in Davenport, Iowa.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's where I was intending to continue my education.
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  SPEAKER_00: Did I change gears and should I study psychology and get a doctorate in psychology?
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  SPEAKER_00: Or what I would have preferred would have been a Psy D, which was mostly clinical because I cared about helping people.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or did I would I do something totally different?
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  SPEAKER_00: In the meantime, I before I could go on to college for uh chiropractic, I had some chemistry and physics to finish.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I ended up working in social services as an employment support specialist and trainer.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's where I originally did my first training as a coach.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then later on, I went on to teach school for a private school.
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  SPEAKER_00: And during the 2002, 2008, 2009 housing crisis, the school that I worked for decided they were gonna shut their doors after 30 years.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I needed to find out what my next steps were.
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  SPEAKER_00: And again, a lot of people have said to me, Well, why didn't you just continue to teach?
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  SPEAKER_00: And I loved teaching.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm so thankful for that experience.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it never even occurred to me that that was an option.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I always still had that intention that I was gonna pursue studying uh medicine.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I found out that in Racine County, which I was originally from Racine, there was a school for studying Chinese medicine and getting a degree in acupuncture.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's what I decided to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: I went to the Midwest College of Oriental Medicine.
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  SPEAKER_00: Since I've graduated, they have changed their name.
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  SPEAKER_00: I now believe they're called the Midwest College of Acupuncture and Herbs, where I did a dual degree.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have a second bachelor's degree in science for nutrition, and then my master's degree, a master of science in oriental medicine.
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  SPEAKER_00: And with that education and training, I graduated and started practicing in the fall of 2013, and I have been in clinical practice ever since then.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I went to school, first degree doctorates were not an option.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not too long ago, I went back to school studying at the Pacific College, which used to be the Pacific College of Oriental Medicine.
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  SPEAKER_00: They also changed their name to the Pacific College of Health and Science, where I did receive my doctorate in acupuncture and Chinese herbal medicine.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I continue to practice.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm primarily a clinician, though I get to see people in person, hands-on.
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  SPEAKER_00: But a lot of people have said to me, I really enjoy listening to you.
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  SPEAKER_00: I wish I could record you and play you back.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so that was encouraging.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I also had to ask myself, is anything that I have to say worth my time and worth your time to listen to?
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  SPEAKER_00: I really sat down with that for quite a while.
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  SPEAKER_00: And as a podcast listener, I started paying attention to my own behavior.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'd listen to a podcast and I just started noticing at the end of the day, could I remember if I listened to a podcast?
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  SPEAKER_00: Could I remember who I listened to?
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  SPEAKER_00: Could I remember the topic?
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  SPEAKER_00: And is there one thing that I walked away with from that episode?
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  SPEAKER_00: And what I found out most of the time is I couldn't even remember if I listened to a podcast or something else.
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  SPEAKER_00: I couldn't remember what the main topic is.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe I could think of a couple words.
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  SPEAKER_00: And most of the time, nothing I heard, even though it was interesting and entertaining, was anything that I applied to my life in a practical way.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the clinician part of me is pretty practical.
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  SPEAKER_00: Although I love theory and I'm a thinker, I can't have a practice, and most people are not going to see me unless you're getting some practical results.
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  SPEAKER_00: And also the teacher inside of me is trained to think about outcomes.
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  SPEAKER_00: When you're a teacher, you're writing lesson plans, you always have an outcome.
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  SPEAKER_00: What's your goal?
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  SPEAKER_00: When I'm done with this lesson, my students should walk away with something.
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  SPEAKER_00: They should walk away with some knowledge, some experience, some type of skill.
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  SPEAKER_00: What do I want them to get out of this?
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  SPEAKER_00: And the coach in me is also looking for things that are practical and hopefully transformational.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that if you're going to spend your 15 minutes a day with me, and hopefully you'll check out my blog too, which I'll tell you a little bit more about, that you're getting something valuable out of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: What can you expect when you tune into Truth in Motion?
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  SPEAKER_00: So, what I've noticed is that most podcasts are interview formats.
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  SPEAKER_00: Most casts chase viral topics.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's whatever they think is going to catch your interest.
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  SPEAKER_00: A lot of times there is what I would call clickbait, so it really captures your attention, but then you listen to the episode and feel really disappointed because they spent maybe no time or very little time what they advertised the topic as was not really what it was about.
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  SPEAKER_00: I found that a lot of podcasts repeat, so you have guests that sort of make the circuit and you're hearing the same thing that everyone else is already saying.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've noticed in the medicine world there's a lot of 30-second TikTok hacks.
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  SPEAKER_00: A lot of doctors specialize and they stay in one lane.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everything is about that one topic.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh all the way all the prescriptions they would prescribe are based off of one narrow perspective, which may be part of the truth, but probably is not all of the truth.
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  SPEAKER_00: They offer quick diagnoses and they have a solution to sell.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I have good options, but I don't always have solutions to sell.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes what I have are more questions.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I hope that you'll join with me in that thinking process.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why do I want to create a podcast?
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to challenge your thinking.
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  SPEAKER_00: I personally, after 20 plus years of education and practice, have found myself needing to really sit with all that information, review it, integrate it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm asking all of you to be my accountability partners because it's really easy for me to set those things aside, not take the time to do that, and then regret that I'm not taking the time to do that.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I want I'm a verbal processor, so I like to talk things out.
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  SPEAKER_00: I like to learn and I love to share what I'm learning.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm using this podcast maybe in a selfish way as a way to share what I'm learning and to keep myself accountable.
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  SPEAKER_00: For all of you, what I'm hoping that you're gonna get out of this is that the things that I bring up are gonna challenge your thinking, that it's gonna be a chance for you to take control of your health journey.
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  SPEAKER_00: The number one thing that people tell me is that, well, I should say two things that people tell me, and they vie for number one.
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  SPEAKER_00: One is I trust you.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the second one is you gave me hope.
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  SPEAKER_00: A lot of times when people come to my office, they're here because they're feeling pretty hopeless and desperate and sick, and they've already been everywhere, and nobody has had a solution or an answer or even a step forward.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love that more and more people are choosing alternative medicine as some of their first choices, so we don't have to get to those desperate places.
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  SPEAKER_00: But even in those desperate situations, I've seen people totally turn their lives around.
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  SPEAKER_00: A lot of them say, you know, you really gave me hope that there's something we could do that I could heal, that this just wasn't the end of my end of the road for me.
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  SPEAKER_00: I hope that as you tune in and listen, that you're gonna find hope, that you're gonna be able to find a next step that's gonna move you forward.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm hoping that you will walk away with a way to think.
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  SPEAKER_00: So part of what I want to present to you is a paradigm, is a way to think through these different questions and processes, not just a quick answer.
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  SPEAKER_00: I will have patients of mine that are coworkers or their relatives or their friends or their parents that their kids are on the same team.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they'll say, I'm gonna talk to Jocelyn.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna see what Dr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Jocelyn was saying about this.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna, I'm gonna text Dr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Jocelyn and find out what she thinks about this.
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  SPEAKER_00: But if you hang out with me and meet with me on truth and motion, you're gonna understand how to think about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when new things show up in your life, you're gonna become the expert at evaluating what you're presented with.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think less and less people will want to write to me because you'll already know the answer and you'll be the expert.
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  SPEAKER_00: I am very much for empowerment, and so that's one of my goals in the office and for truth and emotion.
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  SPEAKER_00: I believe that power comes from our ability to choose.
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  SPEAKER_00: The action of empowerment is something specific.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's actually giving you more choices, it's opening up the possibilities for you to choose.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think education is a big part of that.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's really hard to choose something that you don't even know is an option.
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  SPEAKER_00: Part of that is understanding what the options are.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to present those things to you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Part of it is having the courage to evaluate the different options and to find out what's right for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Empowerment isn't me as an expert telling you what you should do, but helping you understand what I would consider to be informed consent.
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  SPEAKER_00: What are the risks?
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  SPEAKER_00: What are the potential benefits?
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  SPEAKER_00: How can we think through that to decide what's the right path forward?
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  SPEAKER_00: So I really care that you are empowered, that you get to be making good choices for yourself and for your family.
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  SPEAKER_00: The promise that I can make to you is the promise of process.
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  SPEAKER_00: Outcomes can never be guaranteed.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not in practice, definitely not on a podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's just the honest, unglamorous truth.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because only you have the power to choose how you're gonna apply things to your life and the kind of outcomes you're gonna get.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, I can share information with you, I can share thoughts, I can share ways of thinking about things, but ultimately you're the power in your own life that gets to choose who you're gonna listen to and what you're gonna apply.
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  SPEAKER_00: I hope that I can bring some good thoughts to you and some good options and that you're gonna be empowered to make good choices and see those good outcomes.
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  SPEAKER_00: The other thing that I can promise is that I want to walk this journey with you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not as the expert with all the answers, but as a fellow traveler.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I have training.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I have license, I am licensed as an acupuncturist in the state of Wisconsin.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm doing the work that I need to do both personally and professionally daily, but I'm also a human being that's still walking out a lot of the truths that I know, finding ways to apply them to my life.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can promise that I can walk the path with you and hopefully be a seasoned guide.
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  SPEAKER_00: Some things that we will cover, this is not an exhaustive list, but these are some examples of thoughts that I'm thinking about, things that I would like to share with you.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm thinking about going way back, getting a little bit of a more philosophical viewpoint.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when I did my doctorate, a lot of what we talked about was evidence-based medicine.
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  SPEAKER_00: And everyone today wants to do evidence-based medicine.
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  SPEAKER_00: But before we can even start to look for answers, we kind of have to know what must be true in order to do meaningful inquiry.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's one of the first things that we'll be talking about.
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  SPEAKER_00: Also, I do want to talk about the various types of evidence that exist, what types of evidence are good for answering what types of questions.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're going to review what science is, what falls in the purview of science, what kinds of questions can science answer, what kinds of questions fall outside of the range of science and why.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to look at defining what health and wellness is, because that's the only way that we can understand suffering and disease.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a movement away from health and wellness.
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  SPEAKER_00: And how do we navigate between those two opposites?
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  SPEAKER_00: Looking at challenging our assumptions about the human body and stepping back to look at what the body, mind, and the spirit actually are and how they relate to each other.
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  SPEAKER_00: Reviewing body systems and finding the awe and wonder of each of them, because our bodies and our minds are amazing, and sometimes we take that for granted and we forget how awesome they really are.
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  SPEAKER_00: To just be able to step back and look at that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And as I said, this is not an exhaustive list.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is just an example of some of the things that I'm thinking about and how that might be different than what you're hearing in other forms of media.
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  SPEAKER_00: Today we talked about a little bit of an introduction of who I am and why I'm here, what I hope that you're gonna get out of this, some of the topics that I plan on covering with you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Before we end, I just want to give you a little bit of an overview of what to expect from this podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, my intention is that Monday through Friday, five days a week, we're gonna get about a 15-minute podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna take it step by step and go a little slower than maybe most podcasts go so that you can really understand the concepts that are being presented.
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  SPEAKER_00: I personally like that because I believe that it's gonna go at a pace where you're gonna be able to really understand things and absorb it and use it in your personal life, which I think is a really great outcome to have.
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  SPEAKER_00: So 15-minute podcasts Monday through Friday.
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  SPEAKER_00: Each concept we're gonna build on that throughout the week and take it deeper so that at the end of the week, we're gonna be able to integrate what we talked about all week long and every day there's gonna be some application to that.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is a companion blog to this podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's called Notes from a Fellow Traveler.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna be able to find that on my website, which is healingpathacupuncture.info.
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  SPEAKER_00: I am located in Marshfield, Wisconsin.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if you also search for acupuncture in Marshfield, Wisconsin, uh, you should find me and Healing Path Acupuncture's website, and then you would just look for the blog, notes from a fellow traveler.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you are interested in getting emails from me, you can join the email list and I will be sending out a link to the blog and to the podcast via email Monday through Friday.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you will find that in your inbox, and any special offers, deeper things that I might not cover in a blog or a podcast will come through email.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you might find that worth it to subscribe.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the blog is gonna expand on concepts presented in the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna ask some deeper questions, give you some ways to engage with the material, and some practical steps to apply to your life.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's where you'll find any visuals, any worksheets, or downloadable material.
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  SPEAKER_00: Check it out, use it, and that's why it exists.
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  SPEAKER_00: Join me next time where we're gonna look at what is a doctor?
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  SPEAKER_00: What is the role of a doctor, and what is the role of a patient, why this matters, and we're going to begin to look at medicine as art.
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  SPEAKER_01: Keep the conversation going.
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  SPEAKER_01: Find your next steps in Notes from a Fellow Traveler, my blog.