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Why United Though? I Ep: 91 · Draft Offsides Podcast

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Hello and welcome to episode 91 Tough Sides.
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My name is Keith, I'm with Tico Enzo.
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The season is over and we're kind of just shooting the shit.
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We don't really know what to do. So we're we have some some stuff
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we're going to talk about some general stuff and then some
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fantasy stuff and just going to be here.
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That's so inspirational, Keith. Thank you.
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I don't know what else to say. No, yeah, no.
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Yeah, am I wrong? Could have been like hey guys,
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this is draft aside we've got some great material for you
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coming this summer. We're going to bring in some
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draft excellence. We're going to bring in stats
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and like waivers and trades. But no, you got to go.
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We're here Club World Cup is around the corner.
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Guess we have to do this. You know, might as.
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Well, yeah, pretty much. I mean, I feel like I just
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didn't want to oversell, but I guess you're kind of right.
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I could have been like, I could have acted like we had.
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We had more stuff. Because we do have more stuff,
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we got transfers. Off season numbers.
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OK, why you going to make it American now?
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We're going to get fucking called out again.
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Soccer news, baby. Soccer news, Soccer, soccer.
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All right. Champions League, Champions
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League final that happened. It's pretty rough.
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Pretty rough. Yeah, I was.
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I mean, it's I, you don't want to watch that lopsided of a
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game, right? It was the largest, the most
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lopsided victory in China's league.
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Yeah. No, no, I hear that.
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My take is that if if PSG wouldn't have scored so early,
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it wouldn't have been so lopsided of a game.
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It was just the fact that like, Inter doesn't go behind often,
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so the fact that they went behind earlier, they kind of
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just lost the plot. I think they even opened up I.
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Was going to say, can we talk about the opening kick off
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though first before that? What was that about?
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What do you think that was about?
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You just they just kicked it to inner.
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They just kicked it out of bounds in their half.
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It was fucking. I think it's all fucking all
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right. That's what we're going to do.
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We just play in your half all day.
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I've never seen that before. I don't think it was
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intentional, but there were, there were a lot of like
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conspiracy people thinking it was some.
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Certain things it was there was no one running there.
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He just kicked it right in that area it.
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Was definitely essential. It was weird.
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The whole, the whole game was weird.
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I mean, I, I wasn't, I didn't leave that feeling super
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satisfied. Really, I enjoyed the game.
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Like, don't get wrong, it was, it's very, like you said,
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lopsided. But as a mutual, as a neutral, A
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neutral, it was those goals. It was good play.
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Don't get me wrong, I think into Milan just got stuck.
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As soon as they get in that early goal it was only going to
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get worse unless they changed the way they play.
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I don't understand what Demarco's still playing like.
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Send him to the showers. He's been, he was been good all
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season, no. I've watched him have a couple
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of bad games where he's just got torn apart.
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He got ripped apart by Yamal and get Take gets taken off.
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Yeah, but who didn't get rid of the?
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That's Yamal. Yeah, he's been.
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Oh, is it? Is it Yamin Yamal?
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Is it? Is that good?
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He's not. He couldn't even win the young
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player of the tournament. All right, anything else that we
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want to talk about this game? I mean, I guess for me it's like
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what is this being tactically moving forward like PSG?
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Is this going to be the new blueprint for every team?
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Like not having a red designated?
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You know, like I feel like we've been training back towards
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having designated strike like a big striker up top and stuff.
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And is this now like are we going to start moving back
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towards like the fluid front 3:00 and all these things that
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looseners there's? Not even a champion front three.
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It's just a fluid team. The only people who stay in
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their position, I feel like are the center backs and the
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goalkeeper. Yeah.
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Like we talked about this like how Kim, he was playing like
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left wing. That's crazy.
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Yeah, it's, I mean, he literally was the furthest person forward
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when he scored the goal. Yeah, yeah, and I've done it
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wrong. Can they replicate this next
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season the way they play? Yeah, But are the other teams
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going to get better? I believe so.
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Do I think that if they played, because you wrote it here, if
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they played Barcelona in the final, would it be a different
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story? We're going to never go.
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No, I definitely don't think it would have been 5 nil.
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I think I think PSU was just the best team though, yeah.
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So few things take away PSU was a deserving champion, obviously,
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like they were the best team throughout the whole tournament,
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especially in knockout stages. This team, it's a young team.
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I think their average age was like 2425.
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Donna rumors coming up for a contract.
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I'm assuming they'll throw the bank at him because they could
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afford to. They're they're also getting the
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championship bonus from the Champions league.
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So I don't think they're going to lose any of the their
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starting 11 any of their core players.
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They will bring out more players.
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They're they're going to add some more Deb and they have the
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Ledger of playing in the League One in France where they could
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throughout the year, they could rest a lot of their players get
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ready for the Champions League. Can they repeat this?
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Obviously we know going back-to-back is very difficult.
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Only one team has done it, Real Madrid.
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But I do think they're going to be competitive quarterfinals,
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semi final in the next like in the foreseeable future.
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Can Damboler repeat the season? Do you think it's because of the
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new format? Because they had a terrible
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league? They had a terrible.
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Song maybe? I mean, they allowed them.
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It allowed them to stay in it. They probably would have got
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knocked out with the form they had.
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Maybe, maybe not. But so they lost that boppe.
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So it was a large adjustment. It did take time for them to
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kind of find their rhythm and get into the groove.
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So kind of you saying you think they'll be good.
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I agree. But then we like the wild thing
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about right now is that we literally jumping right into
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another major tournament. So there's the Club World Cup
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going on. So then do you consider them the
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favorites to win that as well? I think it depends how seriously
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they take the competition because they obviously they
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played the most games in the competition is internally going
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to be partaking it or no? Yeah, totally.
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So interim them are going to have the most, they play the
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most games in the Champions League regular season.
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They want the trouble. Well, what value they place on
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this? But again, they do their.
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Money. Money talk.
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But if there's only there's only handful of teams that don't care
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about money in general, and I think they're one of them.
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Honestly, over and over if. You really look at have you seen
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some of the teams that are in there like I'm?
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Looking at that, I'm looking at it right now.
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Like there's some Japanese teams in there, some Saudi teams in
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there. Australian team.
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Australia, are you think that like those, no offense to them,
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no offense to them at all, but they they can't hold a candle
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for the most part to the European teams.
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I don't know. I mean, I, I don't think anyone
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expects them to. I think the only thing that
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might be a little different is that like all these, all the
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European teams are coming out off the end of a season and a
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lot of players are tired and what Tico's talking about.
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Like maybe some of the will rest some guys or like some of these
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other clubs and seasons are like just starting or midway through
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and like guys will be like a little fitter and they'll be a
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little sharper and like obviously the better players
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will ultimately win out. But you can see there, I can see
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there being some upsets here and there, some surprise results or
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some, you know, some stuff happening.
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Let's look at the PhD schedule in the group stage for the Club
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World Cup. So the first match is Atletico
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Madrid. That's never an easy game.
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Then they play Botafogo. Is that from Argentina?
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I'm not sure. And then they play Seattle
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Sounders, Brazil. Brazil.
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Brazil. So the second and third game,
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they could just again, cruise control, no offense to them
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obviously, but those two teams. Yeah, I just, I am I going to
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watch some of the games? Yeah, of course I'm going to
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watch some of the games. What else I'm going to do?
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Am I as invested in the Club World Cup as some of these teams
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might be? I don't fucking think so.
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That's just me, Parsley, though. I know there's some people that
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are very excited because, you know, especially the fans that
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are over here in the States that want to go watch football and
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they but I always just feel so disappointed when I watch
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football, like when they have the friendlies or when they have
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like the the tournaments over here that are like lackluster
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tournaments. This might be different like you
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say Q because of the money, but I'm just not as invested.
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I think to go to your point about like they have The Who
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really cares about the money for most of these clubs, They care a
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lot. I think the only there's,
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there's maybe just a select few that do not care.
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And it's it's the Chelsea's, it's the PSGS.
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And even though they don't care about the money, what they do
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care about is PSR stuff. So the further they get, the
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more money they can spend because all these clubs now are
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capped with how much they can spend every season.
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You know what I mean? For you, for, for, for Europe
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and stuff. So this like, I don't think it's
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a matter of like for the bigger clubs, it's not a matter of
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like, oh, we have 50 more million to spend.
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It's oh, we're going to be allowed to spend 50 more without
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violating PSR without, without violating this and that.
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So I think, I think that's the incentive.
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But that's the question of do you, how do you translate that
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to the players? And are the players going to
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just be exhausted not give a shit that's.
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What I'm saying man, the risk is too high for me.
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Yeah, but I mean, it'll be interesting.
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I think it'll this will become a bigger thing, but something
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something's going to give eventually with all this, all
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these games. I think the other exciting thing
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about it is like maybe there could be like a few guys that
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come through that all of a sudden are like have breakouts,
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You know, some guy from like Boto Fogo who becomes a star
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with he scores against athletic Madrid.
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You know, I mean like how cool that be and.
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You think it's gonna be like the World Cup when it's like a star
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player and they get. Bored, I think.
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I think yeah, yeah, I think that'll I think that's very
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possible. And I think that's that's fun.
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That's like one of the best parts about the World Cup is
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like, all of a sudden there's like some kid from.
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How much? How much Rodriguez?
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Yeah, exactly that. Those stories are amazing.
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Yeah. You know I.
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Don't care for that so. So I think that that alone is
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kind of worth it and anything else here can we, should we move
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on? No, just be wary of any injuries
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or knocks you might see. Yeah, playing.
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That's that's that's a, that's a dreaded issue.
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OK, let's talk transfers. So Liverpool rejected $130
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million bid for Floyd Wertz. By Levy Cousin.
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Yeah, but everyone expects that deal to still happen, right?
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Is that kind of the general, is that what you guys are seeing?
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I. Can't believe they rejected it.
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Do you think they try to do the whole 6 year fucking payment
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plan like Mary and I'd always try to do?
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Yeah, you think I or you wonder if there's the total or how
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they're doing it. It's weird, but I think they
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also know that Liverpool is a ton of money to spend.
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Yeah, but still 105 millions. I I can also can imagine that
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Florian words just kind of pissed because like I have a
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feeling that they had like a little bit of a handshake
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agreement that like, OK, if a sizeable bid comes in, we won't
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stand in your way. I think thirty 130 mil is a
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pretty sizeable. It's a fucking big bid.
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Yeah, that's a lot of. Money.
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So a little weird. Well, they know they're about to
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start to have to fucking rebuild right now, because they're
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losing fucking they're. Losing players, losing players.
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So I was. Very there.
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The reason they rejected that is the this was one of the first
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transfer rumors we heard during the when the season open.
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It was pretty, you know, Worth said he wanted to go there.
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But after after this, in the last couple of days, we talked
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Darwin Nunez and Luis Diaz got linked to Saudi.
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So maybe Bart Leverson like like, hey, they're going to come
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across more money. Let's just hold off for another
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few days, see how much they sell them for.
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And then, you know, they might get an extra 1020 million for a
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club like that. It's going to be huge.
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Yeah, let me start by I also want to clarify something I we
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talked about last episode about flooring wars and where you
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think he'd go in drafts. And I did.
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I did a little digging into his numbers for the last two Bunas
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league seasons and how like his goals, assists and all the all
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the fantasy scoring categories and how that would match him up
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to like in the Premier League. Let's say, let's let's pretend
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that he those numbers are happening in the Premier League
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and where he would where he would live.
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And each initially his last two seasons, he would have scored
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like roughly like 100 and or 430 ish points, which would have
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been good enough for 11th ish each season.
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So with that in mind, and also assuming there's going to be
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like some sort of adjustment period, even if you think he's
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the best player, there's probably going to be a little
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bit of an adjustment. So I'm probably I'm bumping him
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back to like mid to late 2nd. He's also going from being like
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the main guy to not being the main guy.
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Yeah. Not sure if that's going to make
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a difference for him or not, but yeah.
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Yeah, it's a new system too. I mean, no matter what, he's
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actually not going to be playing in A352 or 343 or whatever he
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played. Yeah, he ain't good, bro.
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So oh, you never know, maybe he might be maybe already stop
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thinking change that he's. He is getting 2 wing backs so.
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What makes sense? It is possible, but yeah, so I
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mean, I that that's just something with words.
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Another one is a Cunha. I think that's officially
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official now bro. Wow.
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Official. What is up with all these?
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Like, look, I'm going to say it, I know may not is a big club,
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but what is up with all these players wanting to go there now?
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They don't even have European football.
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I know there's an A law there, but over the last few years it's
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just been a decline. I mean, so we're going to get to
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a point where like they there's going to be young kids that
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don't want to go there because they they're just like, what is
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this club? I've never seen this club get
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like Cunya is still of the age or he grew up watching Man
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United be a certain level, right, But like like the next
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year was like duet probably is like Man United.
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You know what I mean? Like luminium, all has never
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seen Man United get. No, you know what?
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I mean, so so I think like there's some level of prestige.
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I also think there's some level of just money like like I know
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I'm like Cunya and Buemo, these guys, like they're going there.
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I'm sure they're getting, I'm sure they're being offered more
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money to go there than they were to other places.
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Honestly, man, yeah, maybe. I think man, I should be doing
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something completely different though.
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They shouldn't be doing this again.
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Well, they're just, well, it seems like they're they're not
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learning their lesson. Like when Liverpool got bad,
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Liverpool did really good about just like kind of trying to buy
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some role players and invest in youth and just really kind of
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like not reset, but like kind of changed how they did things
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after that disaster. That was like Andy Carroll and
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all those all those guys, all those British guys they signed
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under. Who was that under?
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Was it Brendan Rodgers or was it under Kenny Dinglish?
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But yeah, but I feel like United, like they've had that
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that like rock bottom moment. But instead of being like, OK,
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let's like, let's rebuild. We're like, OK, we're going to
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do the exact same thing we just tried, which is just to buy
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players for now. Exactly.
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You know, don't. Get wrong Conyers.
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In my opinion, he's a great player.
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But is he the answer? I don't think so if they need to
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fix the hole in their roof, upgrade their training grounds
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and start rebuilding their youth system.
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Because that does. I thought that was a metaphor
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for the the shaky defence hole in their roof.
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But yeah, I know you're totally right.
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Another thing to note about Konya is, is his XG over
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performance in each of the last two seasons has been like huge.
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Yeah. So like, I'm not saying I mean
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really good players over performed their XG and I'm not
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saying he's not a really good player, but it is something that
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I'm like a little like weary of. You know, like I think I I'll be
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wary, but if it was the main night of old and he'd get lost
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in the in the amount of stars out there, then maybe.
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But he could be the main man there, especially if Bruno goes,
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he could be the main guy. I still can't believe that
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that's a possibility. And I, I like, I don't know,
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this is wild. Let's say they get 100 million.
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How do they like, in order to replace Bruno, they're going to
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have to like spend 100 million. Well, they've.
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Already. They've already going to get
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Cunha, so that'll be part of it. You don't have to spend 100
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minutes spend on one play. You go replace him with several.
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Yeah, You know what I mean. I mean, that's yeah that it's
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hard to make that work. I guess the other thing United
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related is and Wemo is being rumored called today to be going
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down. So what does that look like?
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Is it Cunha and Wemo in the tans?
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Bruno playing deeper in a deeper role next to like Ugarte in the
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sixes? Is some Bumbo going to play?
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Is he going to have Diallo and Bumbo playing fucking wingbacks?
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Because that would be so. Horrible and Blenbo.
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No, there's no way that you buy him.
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But he's not really like if you see the way his wingbacks
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replay, maybe he just wants him to push up because Diallo
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doesn't replay defense when he plays wingback.
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Yeah, I think, I think Diallo is the biggest loser from the if,
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if Cunha and Blenmo are both there.
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I think that's Diago's the one that's Diallo's, the one that
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struggles. Which is interesting because you
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you were mentioning a couple episodes ago how points per
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start he's ranked. What was he like?
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Top ten, top 12? Top.
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I think he's like 7th overall. Yeah, well, so that's going to
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be A and also it's like whenever a club struggles, they have to
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rebuild and kind of strengthen their Academy and have like
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younger players grow up within the club, which Diallo seem to
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fit them all. But now with all these players
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coming in and if he's going to take a backseat, that's going to
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be pretty shitty. 100% I just feel like, I mean, I think what
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ends up happening is that Amrim he's going to have to play on,
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but then he's going to play wing back and like Diallo can do a
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job there. But I think there's a lot of
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defensively, he's probably not the best and I think it just it
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leaves them exposed in certain ways.
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You think you think there's a chance that and Bimbo plays
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upfront on his own? You think that's their answer?
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Well, I don't know if you guys thought holding this link to be
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so to Inter Milan. I said say that.
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If they're getting rid of and I think Rixi has only got the door
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as well, so if they're getting rid of both of their strikers.
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And Garnatro and Anthony. So yeah, I mean, there's there's
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a world where maybe Cunha can play as as a lots of striker.
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Too, But then what would you put in Brembo?
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It just doesn't make. Sense you don't think he's.
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He plays best on the winks that he plays.
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That's where he is. He's a forward on the right or
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the left, that's where. He's played, he's played in
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those in those positions before with with Brentford and he's
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like, I think he's a good enough player to make it work.
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It's definitely not his like his the norm, but yeah.
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I think that's something to look at too.
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With Brentford, I think it looks like a bunch of guys are trying
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to get a Dodge right now because they can see what's coming.
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Which is Thomas Frank probably leaving.
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Thomas Frank probably leaving and a couple of players
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following suit after that, so it would be interesting.
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And who's on Brentford? You got Whisa and Bambo.
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Who dams God? Is it dams God?
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Yeah, Dams. God's been great.
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Dams God's been great. Fleck and left.
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He's got Fleck and left. Levik, who's in?
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Kelleher's there now. So now they've got Kelleher.
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I think he's. Norgaard.
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Norgaard, I think Kelleher's going to be a good like he's
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going to be a reborn Fleck and I think he's going to be the same
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because he's going to get a lot of shots taken against him and
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because anything like Liverpool, he's going to get a lot of
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points. Yeah, so much of that goalkeeper
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position is this opportunity to block shots.
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It is it's it's over because Manchester United is ruining so
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many potential first round players.
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Kunia potential first rounder and one of potential first
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rounder. The out of potential first
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rounder. Now, if all of those three are
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going to be playing in Man United.
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The sound is Do you feel? Comfortable taking any of those
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in the 1st. Round what's that?
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I mean, and that's what I was saying is like, do you really
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feel comfortable taking potentially five guys from the
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1st 15 picks and you know, like that are all on the same team
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that a team that got 15th last season?
18:09
Yeah. Bruno.
18:11
Bruno stays. Yeah, Onana.
18:15
No. Hell no.
18:18
It no. It's and.
18:20
That is and. It's also going to be who's
18:22
going to play on the left side for them.
18:24
I think that their business isn't done yet.
18:26
Like I heard Ganacho and that's need to buy Labour cousin.
18:30
I heard that they'll follow 10 Hog and then yeah, I don't know
18:35
about Kobe Minu, if he's going to come back and he's going to
18:37
come back the same player. That's another wild one that the
18:40
fact that they might tell him, Yeah, that just seems like you.
18:43
You literally got this kid that you've had for so many years, he
18:45
starts to break out and then you immediately sell.
18:47
So it seems very Chelsea to do not doesn't seem like well.
18:50
Remember it's very PSR like you get more credit for selling a
18:53
home. Brand player, that's the place,
18:55
but we're. Going to see in my United, it's
18:56
going to be nuts. I mean, they, I mean the amount
18:59
of talent they're bringing, you know, and like, I feel like we
19:01
say this every year, but it's like I the amount of investment
19:05
you're like, how can you not be good with if you're, you know
19:08
what I mean? Like you have such a good team.
19:10
All of a sudden your team's looking so good.
19:13
Like how do you not get this? How do you not figure this out?
19:15
Look. It just how many, how many
19:17
famous footballers who've been at the club and said the same
19:19
thing, stuff that's fucking top stuff, yeah.
19:22
Yep. Yeah, all.
19:24
Right Jeremy Fring Pong. I did the same thing I did with
19:28
words where I looked at his numbers over the last few years.
19:33
A little like good, not great. Like he had five goals, 5
19:36
assists, which is pretty elite for a defender right?
19:38
Did Mario have something not Mario Munoz had?
19:41
Munoz exactly. He had 6-4 and then Anthony
19:44
Robinson had 10 assists. So there's a few of those core
19:46
guys that are like definitely in that same kind of area.
19:49
But I was really underwhelmed with his successful dribbles. 22
19:53
That's pretty low like for I mean, I know he's an offender,
19:57
but even still he passes 28 what high like he crosses 20 Like
20:03
none of those, none of those numbers were in the like in the
20:06
elite level, even for defenders, much less for, you know,
20:11
whatever. Does he play on the right side
20:13
or the left side? Right side, right side, right
20:15
side. Yeah.
20:17
So I don't know. I'm just like I again, like I
20:19
still think he's going to be like good, but like none of his
20:23
none of his numbers are like game breaking numbers.
20:25
And so then it's like at that point it's like there's three to
20:27
five defenders that I think just you'd rather take the Tim just
20:30
from the sense of like that he's new to the league and whatever,
20:33
whatever, just the uncertainty. So I think you're still always
20:35
taking Munez, Antin Robinson, Pedro Poro, and then it's like,
20:39
and then very possibly you're going to take a few other guys
20:42
now, like at Nori potentially if he goes to Man City.
20:48
Fuck it. All yeah, Vardiol maybe.
20:52
Even cockets. Yeah.
20:54
I mean, I know there's just all these names.
20:56
I think he, I think he's, he falls more into that like second
20:59
tier than he is in that top, that top tier of their students.
21:02
I think someone's going to pull the trigger on the on the.
21:04
Probably. Yeah, yeah, but it's just
21:07
because he plays sort of Liverpool, simple as that.
21:09
Well. That and the name.
21:10
Name his replacing Trent so you would think he might be able to
21:14
similar. But Keith, you mentioned Vardiol
21:16
and Artander we getting going to Man City.
21:19
I think if he goes to my city, Vardiol value goes down because
21:23
he was at his best when Vardiol was trying to get the.
21:25
Left, which I have sent to the pitch.
21:27
Yeah. So if you think center back,
21:29
yeah. Yeah, you're totally right
21:31
there. But yeah, but I'm just saying
21:32
there's names ahead, whatever those names might be.
21:34
Yeah, we can get dig into it a little further as we go through.
21:38
The last kind of name on the rumors thing on here is Liam de
21:41
Lapp. It's officially confirmed going
21:43
to Chelsea. It's just a good deal.
21:45
Like I think Chelsea saw that, but like I, I heard someone else
21:48
say this and I thought it was a good point is like they sell him
21:51
or they bought they bought him for 30 million.
21:52
If they turn around and try to sell him tomorrow, they could
21:55
sell him for more than they bought him today.
21:58
You know just that buyout clause was lower than what his value
22:01
is. 30 million man. So that's good.
22:04
So I think that's good. And like, yeah, give Jackson
22:07
some competition and there's even rumors that Chelsea might
22:09
be in for one more striker. So I think that's but I think
22:12
it's just that that whole position is very I think a lot
22:15
of the Chelsea attackers are very muddled.
22:17
Like there's there's no like no, Noni is, you know, does enough
22:22
and like Pedro, Netzo is kind of underwhelming.
22:23
And then like the strikers if the lap and Jackson, like I
22:26
don't know who's going to win that battle.
22:27
It's not like there's like a clear cut guy, you know what I
22:30
mean? I see Jackson starts.
22:32
I think he starts the season. But but like, I feel a lot of
22:35
people don't think like that. I feel like I've like Sergei is
22:38
obviously he's on mute, but I feel like he's he wants, he's
22:40
going to want to say that they're going to bench Jackson.
22:42
And so what's the benefit of starting Jackson?
22:45
Because Jackson has got better season by season.
22:47
Am I right in saying that? Kind of in what sense?
22:51
He was doing really well in the first half of the season, but he
22:53
had a, he had a. Terrible injury, yeah.
22:55
Dropped off. So are we just talking about
22:58
goal scored? Goal scored.
23:00
General play. General play.
23:02
Nope. He had fourteen goals the first
23:05
year, ten goals the second. He plays 5 less games.
23:08
But that's what it is. And what about dribble
23:10
completion and all that? Let me put.
23:13
Let me put. That I mean, he was out for a
23:14
chunk, he. Was out for a chunk and wait,
23:17
where's Jackson from? Senegal.
23:20
So he's going on for the African nations too, isn't it?
23:22
Yeah. Oh, wait.
23:25
Didn't Jackson get a red card? Yes, he's suspended for the
23:28
first game of the season. So they're not going to get the
23:30
start. They're not going to get.
23:31
A start. I mean, there's other, there's
23:33
other names that are Chelsea are in the mix for too, so who
23:35
knows. Oh no, it's going to.
23:36
It's going to be an interesting season of Chelsea because he got
23:38
Champions League. So it's going to be fun to see
23:40
these players because they're all he's going to be protein.
23:42
I don't think he's going to be sticking to the same team.
23:44
Or do you think he's going to stick to the same team?
23:46
No, I think he'll be more irritating.
23:47
I'll tell you what though, I'm not, I'm not really that excited
23:49
about any of the Chelsea attackers other than Cole Palmer
23:52
for the first few rounds because I think it's just there's too
23:54
much uncertainty about who's going to be playing, you know?
23:57
Could you guys ruin Neto? I loved him.
24:00
So we'll see. We'll see.
24:01
He sells, he sells. Time to bounce back as a player.
24:04
So for Nico Jackson, this year he played 30 games, started 28.
24:09
Last year he was 35 and 3110 goals, 5 assists.
24:13
This year he had 35 shots on target and 76 total shots.
24:18
Last year, 14 goals, 5 assists, 41 shots and 41 shots on target.
24:23
And eighty shots. Yeah, I wonder what that
24:27
percentage is like 50% on target seems pretty bad, but five, you
24:31
know, in five games he's not going to score an extra four
24:33
goals. But I think, but here's the
24:35
thing though, is like he rushed back from injury and looked
24:38
really bad after he came back. So I think there's like there's
24:40
these factors like when you the raw numbers are a little a
24:42
little harsh on him considering just where how the season went,
24:46
you know? To me, it's what where do you
24:50
rank as Nicole Jackson stealing? I don't think he's going to be
24:52
much better than what he is. Maybe he'll be a little better
24:56
touch, a little refine. Whereas the lap, you don't know
24:58
what you're getting. Why not give him the chance?
25:00
You could always bench the lap, but that was going.
25:02
To be that was going to be my question maybe like what are you
25:04
going to get, what different are you going to get from the lap?
25:07
Stronger. Yeah, why are you going to get
25:09
more physical presence are? You going to get more goals.
25:12
Potentially I think it's AI think, I think it's a pretty
25:15
healthy competition between the two.
25:16
I think like this season will be a pretty healthy like like like
25:19
I don't think there's going to be a clear cut guy.
25:21
I think it's going to be like prove it, like who's who plays
25:24
better on the field. You know, it's not going to be
25:26
like AA12 type type thing, which is good.
25:28
I think could be a good thing. It could be, but you want that
25:30
solid guy up front that you can rely on week in week out.
25:33
But we might, we might have that guy after three months, After
25:36
three months, it might be super clear the lap is the guy and
25:40
he's scoring all these goals or Jackson plays like he did in the
25:42
first half of last season and is the guy again.
25:44
Because like there's a period in the first half of last season
25:46
where no one was talking shit on Jackson.
25:48
Everyone was pretty much like, oh, this guy's doing it.
25:51
Tico was I was talking shit. Yeah, Tico was always talking
25:53
shit. Yeah, I hear, I hear.
25:55
Can we talk about what we think is going to happen and it's not
25:59
being so. I know we just spoke about
26:00
Chelsea, but what's going on? Tottenham?
26:03
Do we? You fit.
26:04
I haven't heard no rumors. Managers still sitting there
26:07
waiting fucking to get his his papers to leave.
26:10
I think, I think to stay, a lot of businesses stay.
26:13
I think there's going to be business done and it's going to
26:15
happen once the manager gets decided, right?
26:18
Which I'd rather it's going to be decided this sometime this
26:21
week, by the end of this week. So the names I've heard are
26:24
Thomas, Frank and Zoggy potentially.
26:27
I heard Zoggy and I heard what's his name?
26:30
Ariella. Oh yeah, Ariella from
26:33
Bournemouth. So I think any three of those
26:36
would be really exciting for you.
26:37
I don't want in Zoggy. You don't want Zoggy, a guy
26:40
who's just literally taken entered the 2 Champions Leagues
26:42
in the last three years with a team that's been like yeah
26:45
that's been very like old and don't want to.
26:48
Why? Just plays too defensive and we
26:51
ain't got the players to do that.
26:52
He plays counter attack. I don't know.
26:54
I don't know how true that is though.
26:56
But he just played. He sits.
26:57
Perception he. He sucks in and plays counter
27:00
attack football and he the one thing I do like about it, he
27:02
plays two up top. I do like the two up top.
27:05
I missed that. Inter at the second best or
27:09
inter at the best goal difference.
27:11
Yeah, but how many goals do they score?
27:12
Yeah, but how many goals they scored?
27:14
How many they let in? They didn't really let in that
27:15
many. That's the reason why I think.
27:17
They were pretty good. I don't, I don't have the
27:18
numbers right in front of me, but but I think that I mean, do
27:22
you have enough Chico? Can you pull it up?
27:23
They scored the most goals in Syria.
27:26
Yeah, 79 goals, 1135 and they had the best differential.
27:32
And they still lost to Napoli. And they had the second best,
27:35
yeah. Because they played.
27:36
They played twenty more games than Napoli did this season.
27:38
That's true. What an old.
27:40
Squad with an old squad, Yeah, I tell you.
27:43
I also think I was thinking about this the other day.
27:44
I actually think Tottenham would be very good in a back three
27:48
system too, because imagine imagine a a midfield 4 of like
27:53
SAR Basuma and then above ahead of them are Madison and
27:57
Kulasefsky and like a box midfield like that would be
28:01
great. And then you have Solanke ahead
28:03
of that. Then you have wing backs, you
28:05
know, like I feel like. Don't know mate, Believable.
28:09
Great. Not sure.
28:11
I'm not sure, just not sure. But I think I think any of those
28:15
guys would be great and I think once that happens, Tottenham
28:17
there'll be some action because transfer action because I feel
28:20
like Tottenham really needs to get some new players in.
28:22
I'd like to get Frank part to be honest.
28:24
I would. I think he'd be a great manager
28:26
for you guys, I think. He'd be a great manager for.
28:27
Us What he's done at Bradford is pretty amazing.
28:29
And the the start of play I like, I want to see nice
28:32
football. Fair enough.
28:32
All right, Any other transfers stuff we're going to chat
28:35
through? Tico, who gave away Luis Diaz,
28:41
might be going. What's going on?
28:43
I I'm choosing not to believe that.
28:46
Really. I heard they've made him the
28:48
number one target for Saudi. Lake.
28:51
Yeah, but like, what does that mean?
28:54
Like, if Lewis doesn't want to go, he's not going to want to.
28:57
Go means they're going to throw a stupid fucking I thought.
28:59
Bruno Fernandez was the number one target for the Saudi league.
29:01
No, I had, well, I thought for a different team.
29:03
Al Hilal wants out, wants Diaz. I think someone else wants
29:07
fucking Bruno. I don't know.
29:08
Forget all their names. I'm just hoping that I think
29:12
that words been getting around that it's not that fun to be in
29:14
Saudi because you hear all these guys that are trying to trying
29:16
to come back early from their contracts.
29:18
How many of them have done it too?
29:19
A lot of them have done it. I think, I think people are
29:22
realizing it's not that, but. Just come back though.
29:25
Henderson left. Who's the striker?
29:28
A lot of I mean Saudi Armani is trying to get out of his like
29:31
Cristiano Ronaldo completed his contract and was like had no
29:33
interest in going back, like staying.
29:36
Fabrizio Romano send out a sent out a tweet to talk about
29:40
Christiano Ronaldo, saying how they're committing to Christiano
29:43
Ronaldo's that they'll get. They're going to put an offer
29:45
for Luis Diaz and a couple of their big names, including a
29:47
manager. And I actually just pulled up
29:50
Fabrizio Romano's Twitter account.
29:54
Al Hilal are going to go after Inzaghi as their manager.
29:59
My God, they just just just stop.
30:03
It's the Chinese Super League all over again.
30:05
Just. But there's even more money.
30:07
I know there's more money. I know there's more money, but
30:09
it died out after while they and they've ruined.
30:11
So remember Oscar, he went there, disappeared.
30:14
He. Made so much money though.
30:15
He made so much money, I know he did, but he was an amazing
30:18
player. He was only.
30:19
Like he was not an amazing player, he was a.
30:20
Very Oscar was a very. Good player, very good player.
30:23
He's only 29. He's he's not that old.
30:26
And who else went there? Hulk went there.
30:28
Love Hulk? Hulk.
30:28
Yeah, Reporter. Yeah, loved him.
30:33
Middles cricket said yes to Liverpool.
30:35
Yes. Claudio.
30:37
I think that is exciting. I don't know where that exactly
30:40
fits into my rankings yet though.
30:43
You remember how tight it was between 3rd and 7th.
30:46
It's not going to happen again next season.
30:48
They're fucking. They're third and 7th.
30:50
Like point wise that everyone's teams again just cherry picked.
30:55
All those teams are stall point here, stole a win there.
30:58
All their best players are all getting cherry picked.
31:00
Brentford, Bournemouth, all these teams.
31:03
Yeah, I mean, I think that's the one.
31:04
I mean, there's been a lot of bad things with PSR, but one of
31:06
the only good things about PSR was that like some of the
31:10
Premier League teams couldn't afford to poach some of the
31:13
lower teams best players. But you're starting to see it a
31:17
little more. I think they've been like saving
31:18
up. They've been.
31:20
Storing money. In the Piggy Bank.
31:22
What was it the last couple years hasn't been that active?
31:25
I know there's been a couple teams that have been active, but
31:26
as a as a league, we haven't been too active, right?
31:29
Yeah, they've been significantly less active for sure.
31:33
All right, going into some more just random stuff.
31:37
I have my I have two things. Tell me if either of these
31:42
interest you. I like a would you rather game
31:44
with some names? You guys just tell me who would
31:46
you rather draft? Let's go.
31:47
OK. Or I was going to do a thing
31:49
where let's do that first. And then I have a thing where I
31:51
was going to pull up like a spin the wheel and we're going to
31:54
spin and see because I have my, I've done my rankings for the
31:57
first fifty players for next year, like early rankings.
32:00
This guy I'm. A psychopath.
32:02
I didn't have much going on this weekend and that'll be funny to
32:05
spin. And I'll tell you the name of,
32:08
of who the player is and you can tell me if you think I'm I'm
32:11
undervaluing him or overvaluing him.
32:12
Let's go. Oh yeah.
32:13
So which one first though? Would you spinning game?
32:17
Spinning game OK. That's a spinning game.
32:20
Are you going to pop it up? You're going to share your
32:22
screen. The entire screen.
32:23
You ready for this boys? Yeah.
32:25
Next level shit. Let's do it.
32:28
Let's weigh in. You see the screen.
32:30
No. What do you see?
32:32
I see you. There we go now.
32:34
There we go. Hold back.
32:37
There we go. Oh, you're ready for the spin
32:39
spin #1. Spin #1.
32:44
No sound effect. Kind of disappointed.
32:45
Yeah, oh man, there is a sound effect on my end.
32:48
Sound effect on my end. 383838 on my preliminary ranking is
32:59
Johann Whista. Full frowned.
33:02
Fourth round undervalue, overvalue.
33:05
I know you guys haven't done any research yet, so it's very got
33:07
checky. So what do you think?
33:09
Well, going for what Sergey had said in the at the breakfast
33:12
where he said that's one of his best ones and he's he has
33:15
performed well this season. I I do remember him scoring a
33:17
few goals and with and Brembo, if Brembo does go to Man United,
33:22
it makes him really the main, main guy.
33:25
But does that affect them also creativity wise?
33:28
Does he get more chances? I say, I say.
33:30
He's about right. What do you think, Tico?
33:34
So he was ranked 20th this year, but I think he's ranked.
33:41
I think he'll go before that though.
33:43
You think he'll go before that? I think he'll go before 38.
33:45
You think he'll go third round? Early 30s.
33:48
Late third round, early 4th. So he's points per start with
33:51
players that have played ten or more games.
33:53
He's ranked 33rd with 11.5 points per start.
33:57
You played in 31 game, you started 31 games, started 97% of
34:02
the game that he was available for.
34:04
Where, Where's, Where's the front?
34:07
Well, that's a good question. Not the one going to Afghan
34:12
'cause it just. Fucks it up bro.
34:14
French. Let me see, does he play for Oh?
34:18
He plays for Congo. He plays for Congo national
34:20
team. How you going?
34:21
Yeah, I mean, I I think that I I'm concerned.
34:24
I think like, your points are valid.
34:26
My concern. The reason he's a little lower
34:28
than I had him. Oops.
34:29
That looks psycho look. At that looks crazy.
34:31
For me the. Reason he's a little lower is
34:33
just because of of all the things you said, AFCON and
34:35
everything, but also the fact that like, and when we're
34:38
leaving Thomas Frank leaving all these things I think can have a
34:40
huge, huge impact on him. OK, want me to spin again?
34:45
Yeah, let's do two more. OK.
34:51
Oh man, it's OK. 4343 we have Chris What?
35:08
If I think, I think Ryan would say that's a bit, that's a bit
35:13
too high for him. I think he should go like fourth
35:17
round with the with the season he's had.
35:19
Where's not in forest is what conference league.
35:22
So do Europa. Europe, Europa.
35:24
They finished fifth now. No.
35:26
So they didn't finish 5th today. They.
35:30
Finished no 7th, 7th so they're in conference.
35:34
Conference, yeah, right. So we play a few more games
35:39
unless they get they'll look into invest into another
35:41
striker. You know what?
35:42
Actually, no, that might be right.
35:43
I don't think he's going to have another season like he did this
35:46
year. Don't care what Ryan says this
35:48
time. I mean, I think the biggest
35:50
thing for him is that it's like his points were like he had a
35:53
great season, like he. Had a great season.
35:55
Denied everyone's expectations, he averaged 11 points per start,
36:00
which is good enough for like 55th, which is it's really good,
36:02
but it wasn't like it wasn't this elite thing because even
36:05
though he scored a ton of goals, that's kind of if he's not
36:07
scoring that many goals, he's not getting there, you know?
36:12
So let's even account for the fact that they kind of started
36:16
not playing well by the end of season 2.
36:18
And that's probably not like, that's not like their level.
36:20
I'm not saying that they weren't good enough, but like, yeah, I,
36:23
I even think like 44. I'm not like even that number.
36:26
I'm not like, or 43rd or whatever.
36:28
I'm like, not that pumped. But you're in the 4th, but you'd
36:31
be happy to get, you'd be happy to get him in the fifth round,
36:33
wouldn't? You, I think you're happy in the
36:35
from a value standpoint, you'd be like, OK, like at this price,
36:38
too good to pass out. But I wouldn't be sitting there
36:40
being like, yes, Chris Wood, I'm so excited.
36:43
Does that make sense? Yeah, it's not like an Iwobi
36:46
pick, you know what I mean? So.
36:48
So he doesn't, he doesn't follow into your, your, your money
36:51
ball. Chris Wood isn't one of your
36:53
money ball guys, Enzo. You know, maybe, maybe.
36:55
Maybe. But won't be that early.
36:58
His coming off coming off of a career year and he's going to
37:01
turn 3334. I the only way I draft him if
37:05
he's like available very late on.
37:06
I don't I think he'll be selected by 43rd, but I probably
37:09
value him lower than that. I'd rather take a chance on
37:13
someone someone else that could potentially have a big bigger
37:16
year than on would who? Let's remember start of the
37:19
year. A lot of people thought force
37:20
might be in battle for relegation.
37:22
Yeah, yeah. Question, where do you have a
37:25
langar? I don't quite have him in the
37:27
top. He's like probably.
37:29
Like top 50? 253 in the six, I think the six
37:32
round. What was his points per start?
37:35
Because he had a good season 2. Not a great season but he had a
37:38
good season 2. Let's look, I think I think the
37:44
other thing Alanga, I haven't he was 9.8 points for a start.
37:48
So he was 88th overall. I think I think that Chris went
37:53
to go your point like coming off a career year.
37:55
I'm just a little weary of a guy.
37:56
He was like 32 coming off a career year and.
37:58
Having on a not that good. Expectation that he's going to
38:01
be as good as not. That great of a team, they came
38:03
7th. OK.
38:06
Yeah, Oh yeah. Last spin.
38:08
Last. Spin.
38:09
Let's shut up. Now I was going to say change
38:12
the Max number from 50 to 15 so we get like a top 15.
38:16
Oh yeah, sound. Man 19 is that better?
38:21
Are you happy? Chico A.
38:23
Little happier? OK, this will be an interesting
38:26
one. Second round men.
38:28
Oh crazy. End of the second round.
38:36
I'd be happy again by the end of the second round.
38:38
Absolutely not. You're not just.
38:40
Taking attendance No. And the second round.
38:43
Like but he had a good season also.
38:46
That's The thing is go ahead, go ahead.
38:48
And like with the changes that might be happening, imagine him
38:52
under Thomas Frank or even imagine him again against with
38:56
Areola. The more attack and play going
38:59
down the wings, he'll he'll put more crosses in, he'll cut in
39:02
more. We'll see.
39:03
Hopefully we'd see the the son of old that was taking shots
39:05
from outside the fucking box because he wasn't doing out all
39:07
this season. My God, you're not going to see
39:09
the son of old, you're going to see an old son.
39:12
He's only 32. Even if even if he has, even if
39:16
he has a little bit of a decline this season, he ended up he was
39:20
like the he ended up with 12.6 points per start, which was good
39:24
enough for like 25th overall like ish.
39:27
So I'm just saying that like this and this was like a bad,
39:30
underwhelming season. I feel like everyone felt like
39:32
he, everyone was very disappointed and like I still
39:35
pretty good when you start to look at the names around him,
39:38
like it's like, like, do you, would you really draft like
39:41
Savio before you direct draft Samhainen when you know Savio's
39:44
only going to start 50% of the games he's available for it?
39:48
Yukuba Minta, you know what I mean?
39:50
Like guys like that, Like you don't feel great about guys like
39:52
that. I hear you.
39:55
So that's the logic there. But I that's, that's definitely
39:57
like AI think that one's going to divide opinions.
40:00
Yeah, it's going to be like late second, early 3rd.
40:03
Tika. Won't drop him until fifth
40:05
round. Well, he would.
40:06
Yeah. So he just won't.
40:06
He won't be seeing them. Yeah.
40:09
All right. Please, I hope you, you or Chris
40:12
take him in the second round. This is fun.
40:16
Was the wheel fun? The wheel?
40:17
The wheel. Was fun.
40:17
I like that. We'll do it again.
40:19
Cool. OK.
40:20
Next game would you rather Fantasy Edition?
40:25
OK, some of these are easier than others.
40:27
A sort of an easy one for you guys.
40:29
Would you rather Luis, do you guys or Florida?
40:31
Any words? Luis Diaz, just because I
40:36
already know what I'm going to get.
40:39
What's wild card, baby? Upside.
40:43
So it's safety. It's such a safety versus upside
40:45
like the unknown versus the known.
40:48
I will say I was really impressed with Luis Diaz's
40:49
numbers overall. He had a he had a really
40:52
explosive good season. I think that his biggest issue
40:54
is that his he only of of games he was available for like he was
40:57
on the bench for or he was like in the squad for, he only
41:00
started 74% of them. So that's a big chunk of games
41:04
where he's healthy or not starting.
41:05
Yeah, that's interesting because his parents didn't get kidnapped
41:07
this year. But the other thing that's weird
41:09
about him is he he started 26 games, but he came off the
41:13
bench. He played in all those, he
41:14
played in like 36. So there was 10 games where he
41:17
came off the bench. So which is just like, it's just
41:20
a little, doesn't feel good. Was that more, you think,
41:22
rotation with Champions League? So I know he played a lot of
41:24
Champions League games, isn't he?
41:26
Maybe that maybe they have Gakpo, they have all these other
41:29
pieces. So I think Arne Slott was
41:30
probably just being smart. Like he yeah, I mean, rotation,
41:34
yeah, sure. But Mohammed Salah started every
41:37
single game. So he's he's like immune to
41:38
rotation. Yeah, it's most solid.
41:42
All. Right, next one.
41:45
Would you rather draft Enzo Fernandez or have Martin?
41:49
Martin, Oregon. Go on, take me.
41:51
Go first on this. 10 Martin Olegard It's not even a yeah,
41:54
it's I don't know what Enzo's doing over here.
41:57
Well, I think Enzo's still going to be a fuck face and a fuck boy
42:01
and he's going to score. He's going to score some goals
42:06
and he's playing the Chelsea team that now in Champions
42:08
League. That's the only difference.
42:09
But I've seen Martin Ogard played an Arsenal team, has come
42:11
second three years and not get past good teams in in the
42:17
Champions League. I don't know.
42:18
And he, yeah, what? You know what I don't know.
42:22
It's it's pretty 50 feet, but I like Enzo Fernandez more upside.
42:26
So you're talking about upside ends and you're saying you like
42:28
Enzo's upside more. Odegar was the first rounder,
42:31
the last. So this year, obviously he came,
42:33
was injured, you know, never got into like they did.
42:36
Arsenal as a team, they didn't score a lot of goals.
42:38
The last two years, he's averaged over 13 points a game,
42:42
eight goals, 10 assists, 15 goals, 7 assists.
42:45
OK, what did you do this? Was this was his bad years, his
42:49
worst year in the EPL and he's still averaged 9.4 points?
42:52
OK, and but what did he do? I'm not saying he's a bad
42:55
player, it's just one of the other mate and that's all it is.
42:57
I think it's the same thing where it's like I do believe
43:01
that Enzo's or do you think ODA guy's going to bounce back and
43:03
do you believe that Enzo Fernandez that this is, is this
43:05
the norm or is this like a high for Enzo Fernandez?
43:08
Well, you said it before. Keep with Enzo Fernandez.
43:10
He was playing a lot higher in this team, so he's got more
43:13
attacking opportunity. He was contributing more, you
43:16
know. Mockley Maresca is really good
43:18
for. Him monogod, I no doubt.
43:21
He's a great player. I think he's a really good
43:23
player, really good player. There's a reason where he came
43:25
from, from Real Madrid and he still have space for him.
43:28
Odokod's a good player. He he was great.
43:30
Athletico Bubbao, he's had a good start, but they've always
43:33
said he's a little bit more reliant on having a Saka there
43:36
when Saka's not there, which honestly Saka usually is.
43:39
He doesn't really play well. He he's in the shadow.
43:42
Yeah, I mean, soccer wasn't there for a big chunk of the
43:44
season when Odegar was back and didn't look great.
43:46
So that's it. That's an interesting one.
43:48
OK, ready for the next one? Would you rather Omar Mahmoush
43:53
or Ollie Watkins? Mahmoush unless Watkins goes to
43:55
Arsenal. Watkins.
43:58
Go right. We talked about this last week.
44:03
I don't want to be on the Omar Mahmoush roller coaster, but at
44:08
the same time, like Watkins got benched.
44:10
So if Watkins goes to like Arsenal or any other team,
44:14
obviously we'll go over there, but I'll go with Watkins.
44:17
Did Watkins get benched? It was he just getting rotated?
44:20
I was there in Champions League. You.
44:22
Fucking. Yeah, Benched.
44:23
You guys feel like. Yeah, you really felt like.
44:24
Benched, yeah, He got benched. He got benched.
44:28
He got benched when Duran was there and then he came back and
44:31
started a few games and couldn't score a goal.
44:33
He got benched again. I.
44:35
Mean he had. 16 goals, He just says yeah.
44:37
I think he had, he had a pretty good season.
44:39
Yeah. Yeah, that's a little harsh.
44:40
Is villa in Europa or champ? Villa is in champ.
44:46
No, nothing. Oh, that's right, they're in
44:48
nothing. It's my book.
44:49
They finished 6th. Aren't they're in Europa?
44:52
No, they're 6th Europa. No, no, they're out because they
44:58
they were upset. Maybe they were pissed.
45:00
No, what? What's the?
45:01
There's the orange line next to them at the table.
45:04
Oh, really? Yeah.
45:06
Forest is in nothing I guess or conference.
45:08
No, that's all. Right, no forest is in
45:09
something. Oh, maybe you're right.
45:11
You're totally right. Villa's going to be in Europa.
45:14
You're totally right, yes. Who missed out?
45:19
Was it because Newcastle made it through?
45:21
No one really missed out, it was just a matter of.
45:23
Champions League. Player Yeah, Champions League.
45:25
Champions League. So they're going to be in
45:27
Europa, and that is Mr. What's his name?
45:32
Mr. Cup. Mr. Emery.
45:35
Mr. Emery. Who's won the Europa multiple
45:38
times? Uh huh.
45:41
So what's your answer then, Tikka?
45:44
Watkins also Austin's just probably going back to PhD,
45:46
which you know, and also actually is not going back.
45:50
So they're running good then on their options.
45:53
Love two players that bench them essentially are no longer on the
45:55
team. I'm feeling really great about
45:57
these because you guys have literally picked the opposite
45:58
for each one of these which. I just, I think we just got
46:01
different ideas, but. Moneyball versus first place
46:07
ball. The results take for themselves.
46:09
He's come first once. Where do you come in the other
46:11
leagues the years before? Dead last?
46:13
No, not that last. First.
46:14
Not good. Not, not, that's fucking podium,
46:17
that's for fucking damn sure. Leicester C Motherfucker.
46:20
All right, let's go. Let's I have I have two more.
46:22
Let's. Just wait, he has to shit on me.
46:24
I don't get to go and fucking hang your thing participation
46:28
banners on your your background. I have a trophy.
46:34
Yeah, can we carry on now? He's he's had his little Mama.
46:37
Oh. Yeah, that was it.
46:38
Next one, let's be quicker. We're we're, we're going longer
46:42
than I anticipated. Dwight McNeil or Gabriel
46:44
Martinelli. Dwight McNeil.
46:46
McNeil. McNeil I think I would go that
46:50
too. And it's the so unsexy that you
46:52
feel like you. I'd be like pumped though if I
46:54
got McNeil. It's when you feel a little bit
46:56
dirty, but you do. Yeah, but you know, you're
46:58
right. Like mathematically you know
46:59
you're right, but it doesn't feel good.
47:01
OK, Next one, Alex Iwobi or Morgan Rogers.
47:04
Morgan. Rogers, Rogers, I go Alex Iwobi
47:07
when you look at his number, because Rogers is really
47:09
exciting, but when you look at his numbers, his average like
47:12
points per start was like in the nines.
47:14
Iwobi's was significantly higher.
47:16
We'll get a ton of goal involvements.
47:18
He's like the main man. He's one of the main man at full
47:20
on. Like Rogers, I could see just
47:22
being part of rotation under Emory, and he's young and he has
47:25
the potential to grow and develop, but.
47:27
And a wobby. Guess those are wobby points.
47:29
Yeah, those are wobby points. You just getting points for just
47:32
being out there. All right, next, the last thing
47:35
we're doing is we're going to just chat through Tico, pulled
47:38
together some stats and do you want to break it down, Tico?
47:41
Essentially it's you pulled every single team and how many
47:45
total points every single player on that team contributing.
47:49
Yeah. So essentially for the entirety
47:51
of the year, all of their players was the total of their
47:53
points. And then I also did the average
47:55
points per player. Yeah, sounds interesting.
47:59
How? Did you do every single player
48:00
or did you do a minimum a minimum amount of minutes?
48:03
Or did you just do stars every? Jesus Christ.
48:06
Yeah, no, every single player. Every player that scored at
48:09
least a single point. Positive or negative if they
48:12
were on the roster, if they if they literally pulled it from
48:14
fan tracks. So if they showed on fan tracks.
48:16
So I think like rash from would be on United and.
48:22
I like, I like the idea. I just feel like you'd be a
48:24
little bit skewed when you got like.
48:25
Maybe you pulled the top 15 players or something.
48:28
What you're saying is up 20, but yeah, that this, that will give
48:31
you a little bit of a difference, but I think the
48:33
general idea is the same. Well, because you wouldn't start
48:36
that many of those players right like.
48:38
Obviously again this it was just something I was just curious to
48:41
see if defensive. No, you're just getting to the
48:44
minutiae of this numbers. I can't answer what are the what
48:48
are the takeaways that you got to code from this?
48:51
So some of the stuff that was kind of interesting is Chelsea
48:54
was the highest, second highest total points, but they had a lot
48:57
of more players playing. So like their average points per
49:00
player was like 72.44? So, so on.
49:03
So they were so total points. Who was the highest?
49:08
Liverpool, Liverpool and then Chelsea was second, but they had
49:10
a, they had a much higher, they had a pretty high like average
49:15
or is lower because of it was a lower average.
49:17
Chelsea was lower because they had so many players.
49:19
Like for example, right, we have Forest who scored 3914 points,
49:25
but they're they had the highest average player points.
49:29
Because. They I think that, but Fulham
49:32
did and Fulham scored 3700 because they had the same
49:34
starting 11. They didn't have a lot of depth.
49:36
Yeah, no, that's that's actually a good take away.
49:38
OK, then here's my next question.
49:40
Outside of the three relegated teams, who had the lowest total
49:44
points? So tell me, Manchester United,
49:46
I'm going to laugh. It's probably Wolves I guess.
49:51
No, let's see United and Wolves there were apart by one point.
49:56
So it is United. So OK, with that in mind now,
49:59
are you really guys really going to draft like four or five
50:02
United players in the 1st 15, first 15 picks?
50:04
So look, it's just so gross. If it's the 6th, if it's the 6th
50:08
pick, you're the 6th pick and Cunya's there, you're not going
50:11
to pick up Cunya. No, I'm going to say Isaac.
50:14
OK, wait, if it's a 7th pick and Cunya's still there, that's what
50:23
I'm saying. Like you're telling these all
50:25
first rounders. I'm going to try and trade my my
50:28
seventh round pick first so. I'm going to do really quick
50:31
mock draft, just real quick. First, first round, let's say
50:36
for 1st 15. So we have Mosala, Cole, Palmer,
50:41
Holland. Are we?
50:44
Do we agree on the 1st 3 so far? No, I mean, no, I think Saka and
50:47
Saka, yeah, in order. This is not order.
50:50
Saka. OK, OK.
50:51
So far so good. Yeah, Bruno.
50:55
Did you say Holland already? Yeah, Bruno.
50:58
Bruno So that's 6. I think that's like it's a tear
51:00
in itself at that point. That's a drop off.
51:03
Those 6, I think there is no conversation about it.
51:05
Those are the top 6 that are going.
51:07
To go. So then it's Cunya and Bwenbo
51:13
Aze Aze. And then for me, it's Diaz, Luis
51:16
Diaz. And then I mean, I had Diallo
51:21
there, but now I'm not so sure. It's a big drop off and.
51:24
Then Jared Bowen. Oh, Jared Bowen.
51:27
But it also doesn't feel great. No, but it does feel.
51:30
But it feels right at times. Yeah, Minos.
51:35
But you. Want to talk about not feeling
51:36
great? Talk about having to draft
51:39
Daniel Minos in the first round. I want, I love him.
51:43
I feel like I'm the pious of on him out of all you guys but I
51:47
think I'm waiting for like till like mid 2nd at at the earliest
51:53
for me. All I know is that when we do
51:56
finally get into a draft, shit goes pear shaped at some point.
52:00
So I think it's just going to go pear shaped significantly
52:02
sooner, yeah. Because.
52:04
I think this year's drafts are going to be a bloodbath.
52:07
Fucking Derek and fucking Kyle are going to fuck it up.
52:11
And Thomas, I like Thomas a lot, but sometimes he does, he does
52:14
his like wild pick in the second round.
52:18
You're like, dude, what are you? Doing he's pretty good.
52:19
Normally no. No, no, he's no, I'm just saying
52:21
he he does a good draft, but he has a wild card in him where
52:24
he's like spike pick. Well, I.
52:27
Don't get 2IN. Their own drafted.
52:29
But Oh yeah, that sucked. I don't get 2 in their own
52:32
stuff, but is that is there anything else?
52:34
Like So what? Wait, what was our point of
52:36
this? Oh, we're just saying who's
52:37
going to be. So I think I think you're I
52:39
don't think you're wrong, Enzo, between Cunya and Blumbo, I
52:42
think I might take in Blumbo over Cunya.
52:44
Yeah, he had a better season and Cunya's an absolute psychopath.
52:50
I like I I would not be shocked if he either fights a player at
52:55
United, the coach of United, the other team, a RAF.
52:59
There's like there's multiple targets that he could.
53:02
That's not only like a three-game band.
53:05
I mean, it won't be this time. There's going to be more.
53:08
Yeah, it's multiple offenses. I don't know man, I can't wait
53:12
for the draft. You've already done your top 50s
53:14
so I'm a little bit jealous. I kind of want Enzo to do that
53:17
top like 20 year spending because I would love to see his
53:19
top 20s or 30. It's going to.
53:21
Be like, I'll do it, I'll do it. Give me a few weeks, give me a
53:24
few. Weeks, few weeks.
53:24
Jeez, yo. So this year only nine players
53:29
averaged over 13 points per game, and that's include
53:33
including Diallo. Guess how many we had last year?
53:38
Like 312. You said three, You thought only
53:42
three people averaged over there last year.
53:44
We. Had it was like 30 times I pay
53:45
attention 12. Last year we had 15. 15 Jeez,
53:48
yeah, it was a it was a lower scoring season, is what you're
53:51
saying. Yeah, across the board.
53:52
Yep. Remember.
53:54
There was a lot of goals lost two years ago.
53:56
Yeah, there was a lot of, there was a historic level of goals,
53:59
wasn't it? Yep.
54:02
All right. Is that it for us guys?
54:04
Yeah. This has been episode 91 of
54:07
Draft Offsides. My name is Keith, I'm Enzo.
54:10
Follow us at Draft Offsides on all the socials and we'll see
54:13
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54:17
coming down the pipeline, guys. Thank you.
54:19
Thank you. So much, so much to look forward
54:21
to. Leave us a comment.
54:23
We love to respond, Parsley. And shaming us definitely works
54:29
for engagement. It does because we bounce right
54:31
back. Oh, OK, good, good stuff.
54:38
And I wouldn't. Just spin the wheel.
54:39
Yeah, just for fun. Yeah, spin the wheel, spin the
54:41
wheel, spin the wheel. Spin the wheel.
54:43
Spin the wheel. Feel like I want Wheel of
54:45
Fortune here. I, I did I posted the London
54:55
teams winning, you know, having a good year on TikTok and within
54:59
the first couple of hours I posted it today in the morning,
55:01
we had like 1500 views and 52 likes, which 52 is a lot for us
55:07
that. Is a lot.
55:08
That's it. Yeah, I was wondering after,
55:10
like the previous video, what the engagement would be like.
55:12
And, you know, it was pretty good.
55:15
That's great. Keep that.
55:16
Yeah. So yeah.
55:19
OK, ready to spin the wheel? Yeah.
55:31
Went lower. Anthony Semenya, 17.