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Unveiling the Secrets of Hip Hop's Success · Music Explored Podcast

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  What.
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  What's
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  the
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  biggest
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  difference
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  between
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  rap
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  then
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  and
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  rap
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  now?
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  Yeah,
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  like,
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  it
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  was.
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  It
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  was.
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  I
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  think
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  it
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  was,
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  like,
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  harder
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  to
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  get
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  noticed
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  because,
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  you
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  know,
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  there
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  wasn't
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  the
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  outlets,
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  you
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  know,
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  like,
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  there
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  wasn't
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  YouTube.
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  There
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  wasn't
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  all
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  these
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  things
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  on
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  the
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  Internet
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  where
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  you
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  could
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  just
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  spread
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  your
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  music
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  out
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  like
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  that
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  and
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  everybody
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  would
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  see
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  it.
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  So
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  you
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  really
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  had
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  to
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  go
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  in,
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  really
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  make
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  a
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  name
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  for
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  yourself,
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  like,
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  you
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  know,
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  like,
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  really
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  grassroots,
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  you
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  know,
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  underground.
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  Build
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  your
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  name
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  from
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  the
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  bottom
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  up,
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  where
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  everybody
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  was
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  talking
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  about
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  you,
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  you
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  know,
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  stuff
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  like
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  that.
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  So
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  it
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  was
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  a
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  different
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  kind
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  of
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  grind
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  where.
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  I'm
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  not
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  saying
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  that
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  people
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  don't
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  have
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  to
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  do
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  that
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  now,
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  because
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  you
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  definitely
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  have
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  to
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  do
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  it
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  now
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  too,
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  as
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  well.
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  But
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  the
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  outlets
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  are
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  different,
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  so
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  sometimes.
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  Who
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  was
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  saying
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  that?
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  I
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  was
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  just
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  reading
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  this
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  quote,
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  and
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  I
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  thought
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  it
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  was
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  dope,
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  but
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  they
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  were
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  saying
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  something
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  about,
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  oh,
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  it
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  was
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  Diddy.
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  Puffy
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  was
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  saying
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  this.
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  He
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  was
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  saying,
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  you
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  know,
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  like,
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  the
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  music,
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  you
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  know,
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  like,
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  you
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  want
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  something
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  that,
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  you
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  know,
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  people
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  coming
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  in
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  to
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  just
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  be
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  like,
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  I
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  want
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  to
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  make
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  money.
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  And
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  other
• 1:02
  people.
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  Oh,
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  he's
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  talking
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  about
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  R
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  B.
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  So
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  he's
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  like,
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  some
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  people
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  come
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  in
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  and
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  just
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  say
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  they
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  want
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  to
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  make
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  money,
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  and
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  that's
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  what
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  they
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  want
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  to
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  go
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  and
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  do.
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  And
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  then
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  other
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  people
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  come
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  into
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  music
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  and
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  they
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  say,
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  I
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  want
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  to
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  make
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  you
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  cry.
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  I
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  want
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  to
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  make
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  you
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  have
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  babies.
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  I
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  want
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  to
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  make
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  you
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  go
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  and
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  get
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  through
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  your
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  moments.
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  And
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  he
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  goes.
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  And
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  that's
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  the
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  type
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  of
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  music
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  that
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  stays
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  forever.
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  And
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  I
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  think
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  for
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  a
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  moment,
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  because
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  the
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  industry
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  started
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  blowing
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  up
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  so
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  big,
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  which
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  is
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  great
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  for
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  everybody.
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  I'm
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  glad
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  everybody's
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  making
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  money
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  off
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  it.
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  I
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  think
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  for
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  a
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  moment,
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  they
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  lost
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  that.
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  The
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  food
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  for
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  your
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  soul
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  part
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  of
• 1:27
  it,
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  you
• 1:27
  know,
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  and
• 1:28
  just
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  went
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  for
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  the
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  money.
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  And
• 1:29
  that's
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  why
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  there's
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  all
• 1:31
  the
• 1:31
  musicians
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  that
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  I
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  think
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  that
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  have
• 1:32
  been
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  pumping
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  really
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  hard
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  throughout
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  the,
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  you
• 1:35
  know,
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  mid-2000s
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  to,
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  like
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  15
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  or
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  so.
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  A
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  lot
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  of
• 1:38
  them
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  you
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  don't
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  really
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  hear
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  about
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  anymore,
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  you
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  know,
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  and
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  then
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  there's
• 1:42
  other
• 1:42
  ones
• 1:42
  that
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  you
• 1:42
  still
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  continue
• 1:43
  to
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  still
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  hear.
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  You
• 1:44
  know.
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  When
• 1:47
  I
• 1:49
  moved
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  to
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  Canada
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  about
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  the
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  same
• 1:51
  time
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  when.
• 1:54
  When
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  you
• 1:55
  were
• 1:55
  really
• 1:55
  blowing
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  up
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  and
• 1:56
  you
• 1:56
  were
• 1:56
  a
• 1:56
  big
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  part
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  of
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  how
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  I
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  identified
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  Canada
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  and.
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  And
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  Canadian
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  culture
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  and
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  everything
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  else.
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  But
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  I
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  was
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  also
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  pretty
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  young.
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  I
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  was
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  just
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  curious.
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  Could
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  you
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  tell
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  us
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  what
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  it
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  kind
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  of
• 2:12
  relates
• 2:12
  to
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  Anthony's
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  question,
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  What
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  was
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  Toronto
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  like
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  in
• 2:16
  the
• 2:16
  early
• 2:16
  2000s
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  in
• 2:17
  terms
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  of.
• 2:19
  Of
• 2:20
  everything
• 2:20
  to
• 2:21
  do
• 2:21
  with
• 2:21
  hip
• 2:21
  hop
• 2:21
  music
• 2:21
  and
• 2:22
  what
• 2:22
  you
• 2:22
  were
• 2:22
  involved
• 2:22
  with?
• 2:23
  What
• 2:23
  was
• 2:23
  it
• 2:23
  like
• 2:23
  to
• 2:23
  live
• 2:24
  Here.
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  Well,
• 2:25
  it
• 2:26
  was.
• 2:27
  I
• 2:27
  could
• 2:27
  tell
• 2:28
  you,
• 2:28
  it
• 2:28
  was
• 2:28
  like
• 2:28
  it
• 2:29
  was
• 2:29
  right
• 2:29
  on
• 2:29
  because
• 2:29
  hip
• 2:30
  hop
• 2:30
  was
• 2:30
  just
• 2:30
  blowing
• 2:30
  up.
• 2:31
  Like,
• 2:31
  we
• 2:31
  used
• 2:31
  to
• 2:31
  always
• 2:31
  consider
• 2:32
  ourselves
• 2:32
  like
• 2:33
  maybe
• 2:34
  six
• 2:34
  months
• 2:34
  behind
• 2:35
  or
• 2:35
  something
• 2:36
  like
• 2:36
  that.
• 2:36
  Before
• 2:36
  the
• 2:36
  Internet
• 2:37
  and
• 2:37
  stuff.
• 2:37
  By
• 2:37
  the
• 2:38
  time
• 2:38
  the
• 2:38
  Source
• 2:39
  magazine
• 2:39
  got.
• 2:39
  Up
• 2:40
  here
• 2:40
  and
• 2:40
  six
• 2:41
  months
• 2:41
  behind
• 2:41
  the
• 2:41
  U.S.
• 2:43
  yeah.
• 2:44
  You
• 2:44
  know,
• 2:44
  like,
• 2:44
  as
• 2:45
  far
• 2:45
  as,
• 2:45
  like,
• 2:45
  when
• 2:45
  stuff
• 2:46
  would
• 2:46
  come
• 2:46
  out,
• 2:46
  you
• 2:46
  know,
• 2:47
  because
• 2:48
  by
• 2:48
  the
• 2:48
  time
• 2:48
  the
• 2:48
  DJ
• 2:49
  Clue
• 2:50
  mixtape
• 2:50
  would
• 2:51
  come
• 2:51
  up
• 2:51
  here,
• 2:51
  or,
• 2:52
  you
• 2:52
  know,
• 2:52
  the
• 2:52
  Funk
• 2:53
  Master
• 2:53
  Flex
• 2:53
  1
• 2:54
  and
• 2:54
  whatever,
• 2:55
  that
• 2:55
  had
• 2:55
  all
• 2:55
  the
• 2:55
  brand
• 2:56
  new
• 2:56
  music,
• 2:56
  unless
• 2:56
  your
• 2:57
  friend
• 2:57
  went
• 2:57
  to
• 2:57
  New
• 2:57
  York
• 2:58
  and
• 2:58
  picked
• 2:58
  them
• 2:58
  up
• 2:58
  and
• 2:59
  brought
• 2:59
  him
• 2:59
  over,
• 3:00
  you
• 3:00
  know,
• 3:00
  you
• 3:00
  didn't
• 3:01
  really
• 3:01
  know
• 3:01
  what
• 3:01
  was,
• 3:02
  you
• 3:02
  know,
• 3:02
  you
• 3:03
  know,
• 3:03
  so.
• 3:04
  But
• 3:04
  then
• 3:04
  we
• 3:04
  started
• 3:04
  getting
• 3:05
  cat,
• 3:05
  you
• 3:05
  know,
• 3:05
  with
• 3:05
  music
• 3:06
  like
• 3:06
  from
• 3:06
  the
• 3:07
  Rascals
• 3:07
  and,
• 3:08
  you
• 3:08
  know,
• 3:08
  and
• 3:08
  Swollen
• 3:09
  Members
• 3:09
  and
• 3:10
  Brass
• 3:11
  Monk
• 3:11
  and
• 3:11
  Socks
• 3:12
  and
• 3:12
  Cardinal
• 3:12
  and
• 3:13
  Julie
• 3:13
  Black
• 3:13
  and
• 3:14
  all
• 3:14
  these
• 3:15
  things
• 3:15
  started
• 3:15
  really,
• 3:15
  like,
• 3:16
  really
• 3:16
  pumping
• 3:17
  up
• 3:17
  at
• 3:17
  that
• 3:17
  point.
• 3:17
  It
• 3:18
  was
• 3:18
  really
• 3:18
  good
• 3:18
  because
• 3:18
  then
• 3:19
  we
• 3:19
  had
• 3:19
  a
• 3:19
  raptor
• 3:19
  team
• 3:20
  that
• 3:20
  was
• 3:20
  doing
• 3:20
  very
• 3:20
  well.
• 3:22
  Particular
• 3:22
  a
• 3:22
  little
• 3:22
  bit
• 3:23
  well,
• 3:23
  you
• 3:23
  know,
• 3:23
  but
• 3:23
  we
• 3:24
  had
• 3:24
  Vince
• 3:24
  Carter,
• 3:25
  which
• 3:25
  was
• 3:25
  huge
• 3:25
  because
• 3:26
  he
• 3:26
  was
• 3:26
  the
• 3:26
  best
• 3:26
  player
• 3:27
  in
• 3:27
  the
• 3:27
  whole
• 3:27
  league
• 3:28
  at
• 3:28
  that
• 3:28
  time.
• 3:29
  And
• 3:29
  then
• 3:29
  we
• 3:30
  had
• 3:30
  our
• 3:30
  rap
• 3:30
  scene
• 3:30
  going
• 3:31
  up,
• 3:31
  you
• 3:31
  know,
• 3:31
  like,
• 3:31
  my
• 3:31
  record
• 3:32
  was
• 3:32
  coming
• 3:32
  out
• 3:32
  and
• 3:33
  all
• 3:33
  these
• 3:33
  other
• 3:33
  different
• 3:33
  records
• 3:34
  were
• 3:34
  coming
• 3:34
  out.
• 3:34
  Our
• 3:35
  scene
• 3:35
  was
• 3:35
  getting
• 3:35
  big.
• 3:36
  And
• 3:37
  so
• 3:37
  it
• 3:37
  was
• 3:37
  a
• 3:37
  great
• 3:37
  time
• 3:38
  to
• 3:38
  be
• 3:38
  here.
• 3:38
  And.
• 3:39
  And
• 3:39
  for
• 3:39
  people
• 3:39
  that
• 3:39
  came
• 3:40
  up
• 3:40
  rapping
• 3:41
  in
• 3:41
  Toronto,
• 3:42
  I'm
• 3:42
  pretty
• 3:43
  sure
• 3:43
  all
• 3:43
  across
• 3:43
  Canada,
• 3:44
  when
• 3:44
  you
• 3:44
  used
• 3:44
  to
• 3:45
  see
• 3:45
  people
• 3:45
  not
• 3:45
  even
• 3:46
  wearing
• 3:46
  like.
• 3:47
  Like
• 3:47
  nobody
• 3:47
  would
• 3:48
  wear
• 3:48
  a
• 3:48
  blue
• 3:48
  Jay
• 3:48
  hat.
• 3:49
  You
• 3:49
  know,
• 3:49
  it
• 3:49
  was
• 3:49
  always
• 3:50
  the
• 3:50
  Yankee
• 3:50
  hat
• 3:50
  or
• 3:51
  the
• 3:51
  Philadelphia
• 3:51
  Philly
• 3:52
  hat,
• 3:53
  pirate
• 3:53
  hat,
• 3:53
  Dodgers
• 3:54
  had,
• 3:55
  you
• 3:55
  know.
• 3:55
  But
• 3:56
  then
• 3:56
  around
• 3:56
  that
• 3:56
  time,
• 3:57
  nobody,
• 3:58
  unless
• 3:58
  you
• 3:58
  were
• 3:59
  from
• 3:59
  one
• 3:59
  of
• 3:59
  those
• 3:59
  cities,
• 4:00
  everybody
• 4:00
  was
• 4:01
  wearing
• 4:01
  Jay's
• 4:01
  hats.
• 4:01
  Yep.
• 4:02
  Like,
• 4:02
  it
• 4:02
  was
• 4:03
  camel
• 4:03
  J
• 4:03
  hats,
• 4:04
  pink
• 4:04
  J
• 4:05
  hats,
• 4:05
  you
• 4:05
  know,
• 4:06
  fuchsia
• 4:07
  J
• 4:07
  hats,
• 4:08
  Black
• 4:08
  Jays,
• 4:09
  you
• 4:09
  know
• 4:09
  what
• 4:09
  I
• 4:09
  mean?
• 4:10
  Like,
• 4:10
  every.
• 4:10
  But
• 4:10
  it
• 4:10
  was
• 4:11
  everywhere.
• 4:11
  And
• 4:11
  that
• 4:11
  sense
• 4:12
  of
• 4:12
  pride
• 4:12
  was
• 4:13
  really
• 4:13
  big
• 4:13
  enough.
• 4:13
  And
• 4:14
  then
• 4:14
  I
• 4:14
  think
• 4:14
  from
• 4:15
  that
• 4:15
  time
• 4:15
  on,
• 4:16
  you
• 4:16
  see
• 4:16
  it
• 4:17
  now.
• 4:17
  Like
• 4:17
  people
• 4:17
  have
• 4:18
  before,
• 4:19
  you
• 4:19
  wouldn't
• 4:19
  have
• 4:20
  artists
• 4:20
  that
• 4:20
  someone
• 4:20
  would
• 4:20
  be
• 4:21
  like,
• 4:21
  they
• 4:21
  might
• 4:21
  be
• 4:21
  big
• 4:22
  in
• 4:22
  your
• 4:22
  neighborhood,
• 4:22
  like,
• 4:22
  oh,
• 4:23
  that's
• 4:23
  Garber
• 4:23
  guy.
• 4:24
  But
• 4:24
  then
• 4:24
  a
• 4:24
  Rexdale
• 4:25
  man
• 4:25
  would
• 4:25
  not
• 4:25
  think
• 4:26
  about
• 4:26
  them.
• 4:26
  Right.
• 4:27
  You
• 4:27
  know,
• 4:27
  but
• 4:27
  now
• 4:27
  you
• 4:28
  can
• 4:28
  have,
• 4:28
  like,
• 4:29
  artists
• 4:29
  from
• 4:29
  different
• 4:29
  pockets
• 4:30
  of
• 4:30
  the
• 4:30
  city
• 4:30
  and
• 4:31
  different
• 4:31
  parts,
• 4:31
  repping
• 4:32
  different
• 4:32
  parts,
• 4:33
  and
• 4:33
  they
• 4:33
  can
• 4:33
  be
• 4:34
  big
• 4:34
  amongst,
• 4:34
  like,
• 4:35
  you
• 4:35
  know,
• 4:35
  like,
• 4:36
  there's
• 4:36
  just
• 4:36
  more
• 4:37
  pockets
• 4:37
  for
• 4:37
  people
• 4:37
  to
• 4:38
  go
• 4:38
  and
• 4:38
  pop
• 4:38
  off
• 4:38
  on.
• 4:38
  And
• 4:39
  I
• 4:39
  think
• 4:39
  that's
• 4:39
  really
• 4:39
  good
• 4:39
  now
• 4:40
  to
• 4:40
  wait
• 4:40
  to
• 4:40
  see
• 4:40
  it
• 4:41
  how
• 4:41
  it
• 4:41
  is
• 4:41
  now.
• 4:41
  But
• 4:41
  back
• 4:42
  then,
• 4:42
  yeah,
• 4:43
  it
• 4:43
  was
• 4:43
  really
• 4:43
  good
• 4:43
  because
• 4:44
  we
• 4:44
  were
• 4:44
  actually
• 4:44
  Feeling
• 4:45
  like
• 4:45
  we
• 4:45
  were
• 4:45
  finally
• 4:46
  getting
• 4:46
  heard.
• 4:46
  And
• 4:46
  on
• 4:47
  the
• 4:47
  come
• 4:47
  up
• 4:47
  and
• 4:47
  we
• 4:47
  were
• 4:48
  bucking
• 4:48
  two
• 4:48
  systems,
• 4:49
  we
• 4:49
  had
• 4:49
  to
• 4:49
  get
• 4:49
  into
• 4:49
  the
• 4:50
  states
• 4:50
  and
• 4:50
  overseas
• 4:51
  and
• 4:51
  we
• 4:52
  had
• 4:52
  to
• 4:52
  get
• 4:52
  the
• 4:52
  music
• 4:53
  industry
• 4:53
  up
• 4:53
  here
• 4:54
  to
• 4:54
  even
• 4:54
  recognize
• 4:55
  what
• 4:55
  we
• 4:55
  were
• 4:55
  doing
• 4:55
  as
• 4:56
  well.
• 4:56
  So
• 4:56
  we
• 4:56
  were
• 4:56
  like
• 4:57
  on
• 4:57
  two
• 4:58
  sided
• 4:58
  fight
• 4:58
  right
• 4:58
  there.
• 4:59
  Why
• 4:59
  do
• 4:59
  you
• 4:59
  think
• 5:00
  it
• 5:00
  was
• 5:00
  so
• 5:00
  hard
• 5:01
  for
• 5:01
  you
• 5:01
  guys
• 5:01
  to
• 5:02
  get
• 5:02
  the
• 5:03
  support
• 5:04
  from
• 5:04
  Canada?
• 5:08
  Because
• 5:09
  we're
• 5:09
  like,
• 5:10
  we're
• 5:10
  like
• 5:11
  at
• 5:12
  the
• 5:12
  time,
• 5:12
  as
• 5:13
  far
• 5:13
  as
• 5:13
  hip
• 5:13
  hop
• 5:13
  was
• 5:13
  concerned
• 5:14
  and
• 5:14
  probably
• 5:14
  even
• 5:15
  music
• 5:15
  in
• 5:15
  period,
• 5:16
  we
• 5:17
  were
• 5:17
  like,
• 5:17
  you
• 5:18
  know,
• 5:18
  we're
• 5:18
  American,
• 5:18
  we're
• 5:19
  America's
• 5:19
  little
• 5:19
  brother.
• 5:20
  Like,
• 5:20
  we
• 5:20
  like
• 5:21
  everything
• 5:21
  that
• 5:21
  they're
• 5:21
  doing,
• 5:22
  you
• 5:22
  know,
• 5:22
  like
• 5:22
  all
• 5:22
  the
• 5:23
  hip
• 5:23
  hop,
• 5:23
  we
• 5:23
  love
• 5:23
  their
• 5:24
  hip
• 5:24
  hop.
• 5:24
  So
• 5:24
  like,
• 5:25
  you
• 5:25
  know,
• 5:25
  if
• 5:25
  some
• 5:26
  guy
• 5:26
  coming
• 5:26
  from,
• 5:27
  you
• 5:28
  know,
• 5:28
  Halifax,
• 5:29
  Nova
• 5:30
  Scotia,
• 5:30
  you
• 5:30
  know,
• 5:30
  like,
• 5:31
  yeah,
• 5:31
  he's
• 5:31
  got,
• 5:31
  he
• 5:32
  could
• 5:32
  be
• 5:32
  okay,
• 5:32
  but
• 5:32
  he
• 5:32
  can't
• 5:33
  be
• 5:33
  that
• 5:33
  good,
• 5:33
  you
• 5:33
  know,
• 5:34
  because,
• 5:34
  you
• 5:34
  know,
• 5:34
  we're
• 5:35
  Canadian.
• 5:35
  That's.
• 5:35
  Our
• 5:36
  bigger
• 5:36
  brother's
• 5:36
  gonna
• 5:37
  come
• 5:37
  out
• 5:37
  from
• 5:37
  Boston
• 5:37
  and
• 5:37
  just
• 5:38
  crush
• 5:38
  that.
• 5:39
  Right.
• 5:39
  You
• 5:39
  know,
• 5:39
  like,
• 5:39
  that's
• 5:40
  kind
• 5:40
  of
• 5:40
  a
• 5:40
  mentality
• 5:41
  that
• 5:41
  people
• 5:41
  were
• 5:41
  thinking
• 5:42
  and
• 5:42
  in
• 5:42
  the
• 5:42
  music
• 5:43
  industry,
• 5:44
  it
• 5:44
  was
• 5:44
  their
• 5:44
  thing
• 5:45
  as
• 5:45
  well.
• 5:45
  Because
• 5:45
  American
• 5:46
  music
• 5:46
  was
• 5:46
  doing
• 5:46
  well
• 5:47
  and
• 5:47
  we're,
• 5:47
  you
• 5:48
  know,
• 5:48
  we
• 5:48
  had
• 5:48
  great
• 5:48
  Canadian
• 5:49
  artists,
• 5:49
  but
• 5:49
  they
• 5:49
  just
• 5:50
  thought
• 5:50
  they
• 5:50
  couldn't
• 5:50
  connect
• 5:51
  the
• 5:51
  two.
• 5:51
  They
• 5:51
  couldn't
• 5:51
  connect
• 5:52
  and
• 5:52
  be
• 5:52
  like,
• 5:52
  well,
• 5:53
  we're
• 5:53
  influenced
• 5:53
  by
• 5:54
  all
• 5:54
  this
• 5:54
  music
• 5:54
  that's
• 5:55
  selling
• 5:55
  big
• 5:55
  time
• 5:55
  over
• 5:56
  here.
• 5:56
  Why
• 5:56
  wouldn't.
• 5:57
  Out
• 5:58
  of
• 5:58
  all
• 5:58
  of
• 5:58
  the
• 5:58
  people
• 5:59
  that
• 5:59
  are
• 5:59
  doing
• 5:59
  music
• 5:59
  up
• 6:00
  here,
• 6:00
  yeah,
• 6:00
  you
• 6:01
  can't
• 6:01
  find
• 6:01
  anybody
• 6:02
  that
• 6:02
  you
• 6:02
  can
• 6:02
  actually
• 6:02
  believe
• 6:03
  in
• 6:03
  and
• 6:03
  try
• 6:03
  and
• 6:03
  put
• 6:04
  some
• 6:04
  work
• 6:04
  in
• 6:04
  on,
• 6:05
  you
• 6:05
  know,
• 6:05
  that's
• 6:05
  authentic
• 6:06
  music.
• 6:06
  You
• 6:06
  weren't
• 6:06
  trying
• 6:07
  to
• 6:07
  change
• 6:07
  the
• 6:07
  thing.
• 6:07
  You
• 6:08
  weren't
• 6:08
  trying
• 6:08
  to
• 6:08
  mold
• 6:09
  it,
• 6:09
  you
• 6:09
  know,
• 6:09
  into
• 6:10
  pop
• 6:10
  or
• 6:10
  whatever.
• 6:11
  Just
• 6:11
  hip
• 6:11
  hop
• 6:11
  people.
• 6:12
  And
• 6:13
  that
• 6:13
  took
• 6:13
  a
• 6:13
  lot
• 6:13
  of
• 6:14
  that
• 6:14
  took
• 6:14
  a
• 6:15
  lot
• 6:15
  to
• 6:15
  change
• 6:15
  that
• 6:16
  industry
• 6:16
  and
• 6:16
  that
• 6:16
  mentality.
• 6:17
  And
• 6:18
  thank
• 6:18
  goodness,
• 6:18
  I
• 6:18
  gotta
• 6:19
  say
• 6:19
  his
• 6:19
  name,
• 6:19
  Russ
• 6:19
  Hergert,
• 6:20
  he
• 6:20
  was
• 6:20
  one
• 6:20
  of
• 6:20
  the
• 6:20
  ones
• 6:21
  that
• 6:21
  got
• 6:21
  me
• 6:21
  signed
• 6:22
  to
• 6:22
  Virgin.
• 6:22
  Was
• 6:22
  one
• 6:23
  of
• 6:23
  those
• 6:23
  people
• 6:23
  that
• 6:24
  really
• 6:24
  worked
• 6:25
  hard
• 6:25
  to
• 6:25
  go
• 6:25
  and
• 6:25
  change
• 6:26
  that
• 6:26
  whole
• 6:26
  situation
• 6:27
  in
• 6:27
  the
• 6:28
  music
• 6:28
  industry
• 6:28
  to
• 6:28
  get
• 6:29
  me
• 6:29
  on
• 6:29
  Virgin.
• 6:30
  That's
• 6:30
  big.
• 6:30
  Yeah,
• 6:31
  that
• 6:31
  is
• 6:31
  big
• 6:32
  because.
• 6:32
  I
• 6:32
  know.
• 6:33
  Okay,
• 6:33
  so
• 6:33
  when
• 6:33
  you
• 6:34
  first.
• 6:34
  I
• 6:35
  guess
• 6:35
  when
• 6:35
  you
• 6:35
  first
• 6:35
  came
• 6:35
  out,
• 6:36
  you
• 6:36
  released
• 6:36
  your
• 6:36
  first
• 6:37
  single,
• 6:37
  that
• 6:37
  was
• 6:37
  on
• 6:37
  your
• 6:38
  own
• 6:38
  label,
• 6:38
  correct?
• 6:41
  Yeah,
• 6:41
  we
• 6:41
  released
• 6:42
  that
• 6:42
  on
• 6:42
  Knee
• 6:42
  Deep
• 6:43
  Entertainment.
• 6:43
  And
• 6:44
  it
• 6:44
  was
• 6:45
  actually
• 6:47
  Father
• 6:47
  Time
• 6:47
  Soca
• 6:48
  T
• 6:48
  song
• 6:48
  Father
• 6:49
  Time.
• 6:49
  And
• 6:49
  on
• 6:49
  the
• 6:49
  b
• 6:49
  side
• 6:50
  was
• 6:50
  21
• 6:50
  years.
• 6:50
  That
• 6:51
  was
• 6:51
  the
• 6:51
  very
• 6:51
  first
• 6:51
  record
• 6:52
  that
• 6:52
  we
• 6:52
  put
• 6:52
  out
• 6:52
  in
• 6:53
  96,
• 6:53
  95,
• 6:54
  96.
• 6:55
  When
• 6:56
  you're,
• 6:56
  when
• 6:56
  you
• 6:57
  were
• 6:57
  in
• 6:57
  the
• 6:57
  beginning
• 6:58
  touring
• 6:58
  the
• 6:58
  States,
• 7:00
  did
• 7:01
  You
• 7:01
  get
• 7:01
  any
• 7:01
  attitude
• 7:02
  from
• 7:02
  American
• 7:02
  artists
• 7:03
  or
• 7:03
  from
• 7:03
  American
• 7:04
  fans
• 7:04
  for
• 7:04
  not
• 7:05
  being
• 7:05
  American?
• 7:09
  Actually,
• 7:09
  not
• 7:10
  at
• 7:10
  all.
• 7:11
  My
• 7:11
  very
• 7:12
  first,
• 7:13
  like,
• 7:13
  I
• 7:13
  went
• 7:13
  on
• 7:13
  the
• 7:13
  Lyricist
• 7:14
  Lounge
• 7:14
  tour,
• 7:14
  you
• 7:15
  know,
• 7:15
  but
• 7:15
  I
• 7:15
  was
• 7:16
  not
• 7:16
  even,
• 7:17
  like,
• 7:17
  I
• 7:17
  don't
• 7:17
  even
• 7:17
  know.
• 7:17
  I
• 7:18
  was
• 7:18
  like
• 7:18
  the
• 7:18
  small
• 7:18
  print
• 7:19
  when
• 7:19
  I
• 7:19
  started
• 7:19
  naming,
• 7:20
  I
• 7:20
  remember
• 7:21
  was
• 7:21
  the
• 7:21
  headline.
• 7:22
  So
• 7:22
  it'd
• 7:22
  be
• 7:22
  like,
• 7:23
  exhibit.
• 7:23
  And
• 7:24
  then,
• 7:24
  you
• 7:24
  know,
• 7:25
  somebody
• 7:25
  else,
• 7:25
  somebody
• 7:26
  else,
• 7:26
  somebody
• 7:26
  else.
• 7:29
  The
• 7:29
  Canadian.
• 7:31
  Like,
• 7:31
  it
• 7:31
  wasn't
• 7:32
  really
• 7:32
  a
• 7:32
  big.
• 7:33
  You
• 7:33
  know,
• 7:33
  so
• 7:34
  I
• 7:34
  wasn't
• 7:34
  really,
• 7:35
  you
• 7:35
  know,
• 7:35
  that
• 7:35
  much
• 7:36
  of
• 7:36
  whichever.
• 7:37
  And,
• 7:37
  you
• 7:37
  know,
• 7:37
  I
• 7:38
  was
• 7:38
  just
• 7:38
  another
• 7:38
  rapper.
• 7:39
  They
• 7:39
  didn't
• 7:39
  even.
• 7:39
  As
• 7:40
  far
• 7:40
  as
• 7:40
  they
• 7:40
  didn't
• 7:40
  know
• 7:41
  where
• 7:41
  I
• 7:41
  was
• 7:41
  from
• 7:41
  or
• 7:41
  anything
• 7:42
  unless
• 7:42
  I
• 7:42
  said
• 7:42
  it
• 7:43
  or
• 7:43
  whatever.
• 7:43
  They.
• 7:44
  They
• 7:44
  just
• 7:44
  like,
• 7:45
  oh,
• 7:45
  Choke
• 7:45
  Claire,
• 7:46
  Cheesecloth.
• 7:47
  You
• 7:48
  know,
• 7:48
  they're
• 7:48
  just
• 7:48
  trying
• 7:48
  to
• 7:48
  figure
• 7:48
  out
• 7:49
  the
• 7:49
  name
• 7:50
  and.
• 7:51
  But
• 7:51
  then
• 7:51
  my
• 7:52
  big
• 7:52
  tour
• 7:52
  is
• 7:52
  I
• 7:52
  went
• 7:52
  on
• 7:53
  the
• 7:53
  road
• 7:53
  with.
• 7:54
  Right
• 7:54
  after
• 7:55
  Ice
• 7:55
  Cold
• 7:56
  came
• 7:56
  out,
• 7:57
  I
• 7:57
  went
• 7:57
  on
• 7:57
  the
• 7:57
  road
• 7:57
  with
• 7:58
  Razel
• 7:58
  and
• 7:58
  Mixmaster
• 7:59
  Mike,
• 8:00
  and
• 8:01
  we
• 8:01
  were
• 8:01
  doing,
• 8:01
  like,
• 8:02
  really
• 8:02
  great
• 8:02
  shows.
• 8:03
  And
• 8:03
  then
• 8:03
  we're
• 8:03
  also
• 8:04
  doubling
• 8:04
  on
• 8:04
  festivals
• 8:05
  with,
• 8:05
  like,
• 8:06
  one
• 8:06
  Wyclef
• 8:06
  and
• 8:07
  Wu
• 8:07
  Tang.
• 8:07
  Right,
• 8:07
  right.
• 8:08
  James
• 8:08
  Brown.
• 8:09
  And,
• 8:09
  like,
• 8:09
  it
• 8:10
  was
• 8:10
  like
• 8:10
  a.
• 8:10
  Just
• 8:10
  a
• 8:10
  great,
• 8:10
  great
• 8:11
  super
• 8:11
  run.
• 8:12
  And
• 8:13
  no,
• 8:13
  I
• 8:13
  didn't
• 8:13
  get
• 8:13
  any
• 8:14
  of
• 8:14
  that.
• 8:14
  People
• 8:14
  actually
• 8:15
  came
• 8:15
  with
• 8:16
  the
• 8:16
  Source
• 8:16
  magazine
• 8:17
  where
• 8:17
  I
• 8:17
  had
• 8:17
  my
• 8:17
  unsigned
• 8:18
  hype
• 8:18
  in
• 8:18
  it.
• 8:18
  Nice.
• 8:19
  I
• 8:19
  remember
• 8:20
  there's
• 8:20
  that
• 8:20
  chick
• 8:20
  in
• 8:20
  Chicago
• 8:21
  at
• 8:21
  the
• 8:21
  House
• 8:21
  of
• 8:21
  Blues,
• 8:22
  and
• 8:22
  this
• 8:22
  guy
• 8:22
  brought
• 8:22
  out
• 8:23
  the
• 8:23
  Source
• 8:23
  magazine.
• 8:23
  He's
• 8:24
  like,
• 8:24
  yeah,
• 8:24
  I've
• 8:24
  been
• 8:24
  listening
• 8:24
  to
• 8:25
  you
• 8:25
  since
• 8:25
  back
• 8:25
  then.
• 8:26
  And
• 8:26
  I
• 8:26
  was
• 8:26
  like,
• 8:26
  oh,
• 8:26
  my
• 8:26
  gosh,
• 8:27
  man.
• 8:27
  Yo,
• 8:27
  like,
• 8:28
  that's
• 8:28
  dope.
• 8:29
  And,
• 8:29
  you
• 8:29
  know,
• 8:29
  the
• 8:29
  only
• 8:29
  thing
• 8:30
  that
• 8:30
  they
• 8:30
  wouldn't.
• 8:30
  They
• 8:30
  would
• 8:30
  never
• 8:31
  say
• 8:31
  the
• 8:31
  city
• 8:31
  I
• 8:31
  was
• 8:31
  from,
• 8:32
  everything
• 8:32
  was
• 8:32
  just
• 8:33
  like,
• 8:33
  yeah,
• 8:33
  he's
• 8:33
  from
• 8:33
  Canada.
• 8:34
  You
• 8:34
  know,
• 8:35
  Canada
• 8:35
  is
• 8:35
  bigger
• 8:35
  than
• 8:35
  your
• 8:36
  country.
• 8:37
  You
• 8:37
  know,
• 8:37
  we
• 8:38
  got
• 8:38
  lots
• 8:38
  of
• 8:38
  places
• 8:38
  up
• 8:39
  here.
• 8:39
  I'm
• 8:39
  actually
• 8:39
  from
• 8:39
  Toronto.
• 8:40
  Scarborough,
• 8:40
  to
• 8:41
  be
• 8:41
  exact.
• 8:42
  But,
• 8:42
  yeah,
• 8:42
  but,
• 8:43
  yeah,
• 8:43
  no,
• 8:43
  I
• 8:43
  never
• 8:43
  got
• 8:44
  any
• 8:44
  of
• 8:44
  that.
• 8:44
  Being
• 8:44
  on
• 8:45
  the
• 8:45
  road,
• 8:45
  it
• 8:45
  was
• 8:45
  always.
• 8:45
  It
• 8:46
  was
• 8:46
  always
• 8:46
  just
• 8:46
  straight
• 8:46
  love
• 8:47
  in
• 8:47
  the
• 8:47
  States
• 8:47
  and
• 8:47
  overseas
• 8:48
  and
• 8:48
  everything.
• 8:48
  Yeah.
• 8:49
  Where
• 8:49
  overseas
• 8:49
  were
• 8:50
  you
• 8:50
  shocked
• 8:50
  with,
• 8:51
  like,
• 8:52
  the
• 8:52
  reception
• 8:52
  that
• 8:53
  you
• 8:53
  got
• 8:53
  as
• 8:53
  a
• 8:53
  hip
• 8:53
  hop
• 8:54
  artist?
• 8:55
  Sorry,
• 8:55
  Anthony.
• 8:58
  I
• 8:58
  gotta
• 8:59
  say
• 9:00
  Edinburgh.
• 9:01
  Or
• 9:01
  Edinburgh,
• 9:02
  Scotland.
• 9:02
  Okay.
• 9:03
  Wow.
• 9:03
  Yeah,
• 9:04
  they
• 9:04
  have
• 9:04
  a
• 9:05
  big
• 9:05
  hip
• 9:05
  hop
• 9:05
  scene
• 9:05
  up
• 9:05
  there.
• 9:08
  From
• 9:09
  what
• 9:09
  I
• 9:09
  saw.
• 9:09
  Yeah,
• 9:10
  like,
• 9:10
  definitely.
• 9:11
  Again,
• 9:11
  I
• 9:11
  was
• 9:11
  out
• 9:11
  there
• 9:12
  with
• 9:12
  Razell,
• 9:12
  so.
• 9:13
  Yeah.
• 9:13
  Oh,
• 9:13
  definitely.
• 9:14
  Yeah.
• 9:14
  Because
• 9:14
  that
• 9:14
  place
• 9:15
  was
• 9:15
  completely
• 9:15
  packed.
• 9:16
  I
• 9:16
  went
• 9:17
  and,
• 9:17
  you
• 9:18
  know,
• 9:18
  like,
• 9:18
  I.
• 9:19
  I
• 9:19
  went
• 9:19
  to
• 9:19
  England
• 9:20
  before.
• 9:20
  Yeah.
• 9:20
  And.
• 9:21
  But
• 9:21
  just
• 9:21
  in,
• 9:21
  like,
• 9:22
  London
• 9:22
  and,
• 9:22
  you
• 9:23
  know,
• 9:23
  the
• 9:23
  city
• 9:23
  parts.
• 9:24
  But
• 9:24
  now
• 9:24
  I'm
• 9:25
  in,
• 9:25
  like,
• 9:25
  Scotland,
• 9:26
  which
• 9:26
  I
• 9:26
  never
• 9:26
  thought
• 9:27
  I'd
• 9:27
  ever
• 9:27
  be,
• 9:28
  you
• 9:28
  know,
• 9:28
  like,
• 9:29
  ever.
• 9:29
  And
• 9:29
  then
• 9:30
  I'M
• 9:30
  looking
• 9:30
  out
• 9:30
  and
• 9:30
  all
• 9:31
  I'm
• 9:31
  seeing
• 9:31
  is
• 9:33
  William
• 9:34
  Wallace
• 9:34
  territory
• 9:35
  all
• 9:35
  over
• 9:35
  the
• 9:36
  place.
• 9:36
  All
• 9:36
  these
• 9:36
  big
• 9:37
  rolling
• 9:37
  hills
• 9:37
  and
• 9:38
  super
• 9:39
  sized
• 9:39
  castles.
• 9:40
  Like
• 9:40
  real
• 9:40
  castle,
• 9:40
  not
• 9:41
  Casa
• 9:41
  Loma
• 9:41
  castle,
• 9:42
  like
• 9:42
  castle
• 9:43
  where
• 9:43
  a
• 9:43
  thousand
• 9:44
  men
• 9:44
  died
• 9:44
  building
• 9:45
  it.
• 9:45
  Castle.
• 9:46
  Yeah,
• 9:46
  yeah,
• 9:46
  yeah.
• 9:47
  It
• 9:47
  was
• 9:47
  just,
• 9:48
  you
• 9:48
  know,
• 9:48
  so
• 9:49
  I
• 9:49
  did
• 9:49
  the
• 9:49
  tourist
• 9:49
  thing.
• 9:49
  I
• 9:50
  went
• 9:50
  on
• 9:50
  the
• 9:50
  top
• 9:50
  of
• 9:50
  the
• 9:50
  double
• 9:51
  decker
• 9:51
  bus
• 9:51
  with
• 9:51
  my
• 9:52
  camera,
• 9:52
  took
• 9:53
  some
• 9:53
  shots
• 9:53
  and
• 9:53
  pictures,
• 9:54
  everything.
• 9:55
  We
• 9:55
  went
• 9:55
  to
• 9:55
  the
• 9:55
  show
• 9:56
  and
• 9:56
  oh,
• 9:57
  I
• 9:57
  threw
• 9:57
  this
• 9:57
  out.
• 9:57
  Yeah,
• 9:58
  man,
• 9:58
  I
• 9:58
  even
• 9:58
  tried
• 9:58
  something
• 9:59
  deep
• 9:59
  fried
• 9:59
  bread,
• 10:00
  which
• 10:00
  wasn't
• 10:00
  really
• 10:00
  great,
• 10:01
  but
• 10:01
  they
• 10:01
  said
• 10:02
  to
• 10:02
  try
• 10:02
  it.
• 10:02
  I
• 10:02
  think
• 10:02
  they
• 10:02
  may
• 10:02
  have
• 10:03
  been
• 10:03
  pranking
• 10:04
  me
• 10:04
  or
• 10:04
  something
• 10:05
  like.
• 10:07
  But
• 10:08
  yeah,
• 10:08
  but
• 10:08
  then
• 10:08
  we
• 10:09
  went
• 10:09
  to
• 10:09
  the
• 10:09
  show
• 10:09
  and
• 10:10
  man,
• 10:11
  they,
• 10:12
  the
• 10:12
  crowd
• 10:12
  was
• 10:13
  like,
• 10:13
  they
• 10:13
  knew
• 10:13
  every.
• 10:14
  They
• 10:14
  knew,
• 10:14
  like
• 10:14
  I
• 10:14
  only
• 10:15
  really
• 10:15
  had
• 10:15
  21
• 10:15
  years
• 10:16
  and
• 10:16
  let's
• 10:17
  Ride
• 10:17
  and
• 10:18
  you
• 10:18
  know,
• 10:18
  and
• 10:18
  a
• 10:18
  couple
• 10:19
  other
• 10:19
  singles
• 10:19
  that
• 10:19
  I
• 10:19
  didn't
• 10:20
  know
• 10:20
  would
• 10:20
  have
• 10:20
  been
• 10:20
  popular.
• 10:21
  Right,
• 10:21
  right.
• 10:22
  These
• 10:23
  guys
• 10:23
  were
• 10:23
  rocking
• 10:23
  to
• 10:24
  it.
• 10:24
  They
• 10:24
  gave
• 10:24
  me
• 10:24
  a
• 10:24
  soccer
• 10:25
  chant
• 10:25
  and
• 10:25
  screaming
• 10:26
  Toronto.
• 10:26
  But
• 10:26
  in
• 10:27
  a
• 10:27
  soccer
• 10:27
  chant
• 10:27
  way.
• 10:28
  That's
• 10:28
  beautiful.
• 10:28
  And
• 10:29
  I
• 10:29
  did
• 10:29
  not
• 10:29
  expect
• 10:30
  that
• 10:30
  in.
• 10:31
  I
• 10:31
  did
• 10:31
  not
• 10:31
  expect
• 10:31
  that
• 10:32
  there.
• 10:32
  So
• 10:32
  that
• 10:32
  was
• 10:33
  one
• 10:33
  of
• 10:33
  the,
• 10:33
  one
• 10:34
  of
• 10:34
  the
• 10:34
  really
• 10:34
  greatest
• 10:34
  surprise.
• 10:35
  And
• 10:35
  yeah,
• 10:35
  it
• 10:35
  was
• 10:36
  really,
• 10:36
  really
• 10:36
  good
• 10:36
  years
• 10:37
  ago.
• 10:37
  That
• 10:37
  sounds
• 10:38
  awesome.
• 10:39
  Was
• 10:39
  that
• 10:40
  your
• 10:40
  best
• 10:40
  place
• 10:41
  or
• 10:41
  favorite
• 10:41
  place
• 10:41
  to
• 10:41
  perform
• 10:42
  or
• 10:42
  do
• 10:43
  you
• 10:43
  have
• 10:43
  like
• 10:43
  an
• 10:43
  iconic
• 10:44
  performance
• 10:45
  that
• 10:45
  you
• 10:45
  remember
• 10:45
  that
• 10:45
  you'll
• 10:46
  never
• 10:46
  forget?
• 10:49
  Well,
• 10:49
  it
• 10:49
  was
• 10:49
  one
• 10:49
  of
• 10:50
  the
• 10:50
  most
• 10:50
  surprising
• 10:50
  places
• 10:51
  to
• 10:51
  perform
• 10:51
  and
• 10:51
  the
• 10:52
  reaction
• 10:52
  was
• 10:52
  definitely
• 10:53
  very
• 10:53
  surprising.
• 10:54
  One
• 10:55
  of
• 10:55
  my
• 10:55
  very
• 10:56
  greatest
• 10:57
  memories
• 10:58
  of
• 10:58
  performance
• 10:59
  was
• 11:01
  Molson
• 11:02
  park
• 11:02
  and
• 11:02
  Barry.
• 11:03
  I
• 11:03
  believe
• 11:03
  it
• 11:04
  was
• 11:04
  98
• 11:05
  and
• 11:05
  it
• 11:05
  was
• 11:06
  opening
• 11:07
  for
• 11:07
  the
• 11:07
  Beastie
• 11:08
  Boys.
• 11:10
  This
• 11:10
  is
• 11:11
  98.
• 11:11
  So
• 11:11
  this
• 11:11
  is
• 11:12
  like,
• 11:12
  you
• 11:12
  know,
• 11:12
  there's
• 11:13
  like
• 11:13
  50,
• 11:14
  000
• 11:14
  people
• 11:14
  out
• 11:14
  there.
• 11:15
  I'm
• 11:15
  still
• 11:15
  new
• 11:16
  to
• 11:16
  like,
• 11:16
  you
• 11:16
  know,
• 11:16
  the
• 11:17
  rap
• 11:17
  game
• 11:17
  and
• 11:18
  how
• 11:18
  to
• 11:18
  be
• 11:18
  on
• 11:18
  stage
• 11:19
  and
• 11:19
  stuff
• 11:19
  like
• 11:19
  that.
• 11:20
  And
• 11:21
  so
• 11:21
  we
• 11:22
  get
• 11:22
  up
• 11:22
  because
• 11:22
  I
• 11:22
  think
• 11:22
  Tribe
• 11:22
  Called
• 11:23
  Quests,
• 11:23
  whatever,
• 11:24
  didn't
• 11:24
  make
• 11:24
  it
• 11:24
  in.
• 11:25
  The
• 11:25
  Rascals
• 11:25
  were
• 11:25
  in
• 11:25
  town
• 11:25
  and
• 11:26
  they
• 11:26
  were
• 11:26
  like,
• 11:26
  you
• 11:26
  know,
• 11:26
  we
• 11:26
  didn't
• 11:27
  need
• 11:27
  you
• 11:27
  guys
• 11:27
  to
• 11:27
  come
• 11:27
  up
• 11:28
  early
• 11:28
  and
• 11:28
  bring
• 11:28
  whatever
• 11:29
  bring
• 11:29
  in
• 11:29
  for
• 11:29
  us
• 11:30
  to
• 11:30
  bring.
• 11:30
  So
• 11:30
  yeah,
• 11:30
  it
• 11:30
  was
• 11:31
  a
• 11:31
  full
• 11:31
  like
• 11:31
  last
• 11:31
  two
• 11:32
  hour,
• 11:32
  last
• 11:33
  minute
• 11:33
  rush
• 11:33
  to
• 11:33
  get
• 11:33
  up
• 11:33
  there
• 11:34
  from
• 11:34
  Toronto,
• 11:34
  get
• 11:34
  us
• 11:35
  all
• 11:35
  together.
• 11:36
  But
• 11:36
  we
• 11:36
  get
• 11:36
  on
• 11:36
  there
• 11:36
  and
• 11:36
  I
• 11:36
  get
• 11:37
  on
• 11:37
  stage,
• 11:37
  I
• 11:37
  just
• 11:37
  see
• 11:37
  the
• 11:37
  amount
• 11:38
  of
• 11:38
  people
• 11:38
  that
• 11:38
  are
• 11:38
  out
• 11:38
  there
• 11:39
  and
• 11:39
  I'm
• 11:39
  not
• 11:39
  thinking
• 11:40
  in
• 11:40
  my
• 11:40
  head
• 11:40
  that
• 11:40
  they
• 11:41
  have
• 11:41
  like
• 11:41
  speakers
• 11:42
  like
• 11:42
  every
• 11:43
  200
• 11:44
  yards
• 11:44
  back
• 11:44
  or
• 11:45
  however
• 11:45
  far
• 11:45
  it
• 11:45
  goes.
• 11:46
  So
• 11:46
  I'm
• 11:47
  thinking
• 11:47
  I
• 11:47
  gotta
• 11:47
  yell
• 11:48
  to
• 11:48
  reach
• 11:48
  the
• 11:48
  people
• 11:49
  way
• 11:49
  in
• 11:49
  the
• 11:49
  back.
• 11:51
  The
• 11:51
  show
• 11:51
  is
• 11:51
  like
• 11:52
  so
• 11:52
  crazy.
• 11:52
  The
• 11:52
  people
• 11:53
  were
• 11:53
  losing
• 11:53
  their
• 11:53
  minds.
• 11:54
  I
• 11:54
  thought
• 11:54
  I
• 11:54
  had
• 11:55
  to
• 11:55
  keep
• 11:55
  Screaming
• 11:56
  to
• 11:56
  go
• 11:56
  and
• 11:56
  let
• 11:56
  them
• 11:57
  hear
• 11:57
  me
• 11:58
  tore
• 11:58
  my
• 11:59
  voice
• 11:59
  up
• 11:59
  like
• 12:00
  crazy.
• 12:00
  I'm
• 12:00
  trying
• 12:00
  to
• 12:01
  meet
• 12:01
  up
• 12:01
  with
• 12:03
  a
• 12:03
  mix
• 12:04
  master,
• 12:04
  Mike,
• 12:04
  who
• 12:04
  I
• 12:04
  would
• 12:05
  eventually
• 12:05
  go
• 12:05
  on
• 12:05
  the
• 12:05
  road
• 12:06
  with
• 12:06
  later
• 12:06
  on.
• 12:06
  Yeah.
• 12:07
  Meeting
• 12:07
  up
• 12:07
  with
• 12:08
  him
• 12:08
  and
• 12:08
  the
• 12:08
  rest
• 12:08
  of
• 12:08
  these
• 12:08
  boys.
• 12:09
  Can't
• 12:09
  say
• 12:10
  a
• 12:10
  word.
• 12:10
  I'm
• 12:11
  just
• 12:11
  like,
• 12:12
  couldn't
• 12:13
  say
• 12:13
  nothing.
• 12:14
  And
• 12:14
  then.
• 12:14
  Then
• 12:14
  when
• 12:15
  I
• 12:15
  got
• 12:15
  back
• 12:15
  to
• 12:15
  the
• 12:15
  hotel
• 12:16
  back
• 12:16
  in
• 12:16
  Toronto
• 12:16
  after
• 12:16
  the
• 12:17
  show,
• 12:17
  so
• 12:17
  I
• 12:17
  was
• 12:17
  like,
• 12:17
  you
• 12:17
  know,
• 12:17
  they
• 12:18
  had
• 12:18
  speakers
• 12:20
  you
• 12:20
  really
• 12:20
  didn't
• 12:20
  have.
• 12:20
  Yeah.
• 12:21
  The
• 12:21
  sound
• 12:21
  guy
• 12:21
  was
• 12:21
  just
• 12:22
  pulling
• 12:22
  you
• 12:22
  down,
• 12:22
  going,
• 12:22
  like,
• 12:23
  why
• 12:23
  is
• 12:23
  he
• 12:23
  yelling
• 12:23
  so
• 12:24
  much?
• 12:24
  I
• 12:24
  can't
• 12:24
  handle
• 12:25
  it.
• 12:27
  Yeah.
• 12:27
  And
• 12:27
  I
• 12:27
  was
• 12:27
  like,
• 12:28
  oh,
• 12:28
  man.
• 12:28
  So
• 12:28
  I
• 12:28
  was
• 12:28
  out
• 12:28
  of
• 12:29
  commission
• 12:29
  for
• 12:29
  like
• 12:29
  a
• 12:29
  week.
• 12:30
  I
• 12:30
  was.
• 12:31
  But
• 12:31
  I
• 12:31
  was
• 12:31
  the
• 12:32
  response
• 12:32
  in
• 12:32
  the
• 12:32
  crowd
• 12:33
  jumping,
• 12:33
  losing
• 12:33
  their
• 12:34
  mind.
• 12:34
  A
• 12:34
  big.
• 12:34
  And
• 12:34
  that
• 12:35
  was
• 12:35
  my
• 12:35
  big
• 12:35
  type.
• 12:35
  First
• 12:36
  festival
• 12:36
  of
• 12:37
  that
• 12:37
  type
• 12:37
  size
• 12:38
  and
• 12:38
  doing
• 12:39
  that
• 12:39
  stuff.
• 12:39
  It
• 12:39
  was
• 12:39
  crazy.
• 12:39
  It
• 12:40
  was
• 12:40
  amazing.
• 12:40
  Yeah,
• 12:41
  Molson
• 12:41
  Park,
• 12:41
  I
• 12:41
  remember
• 12:42
  that.
• 12:42
  Beastie
• 12:42
  Boys,
• 12:42
  Wow.
• 12:43
  I'm
• 12:43
  glad
• 12:43
  to
• 12:43
  hear
• 12:43
  that
• 12:44
  you
• 12:44
  got
• 12:44
  the
• 12:44
  love
• 12:44
  in
• 12:45
  Canada,
• 12:45
  too,
• 12:45
  because
• 12:45
  I
• 12:45
  was
• 12:46
  wondering.
• 12:46
  We
• 12:46
  always
• 12:47
  get
• 12:47
  a
• 12:47
  kind
• 12:47
  of
• 12:47
  a
• 12:48
  mixed
• 12:48
  picture
• 12:49
  of
• 12:49
  Support
• 12:50
  in
• 12:50
  Canada
• 12:51
  vs.
• 12:51
  US
• 12:51
  vs.
• 12:52
  The
• 12:52
  rest
• 12:52
  of
• 12:52
  the
• 12:52
  world.