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Calamity Hatcher | The Christian Reeve Podcast | #19 | · The Christian Reeve Podcast

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  Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Christian we've
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  podcast this time. Yeah, we've got video,
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  obviously, for those listening on Spotify and apple podcast,
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  and wherever else, you listen to the Christian we've podcast.
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  Yeah, I recommend this checking it out.
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  If, if this works, I mean, if it doesn't work, it's no worries.
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  It's still going to be a good podcast nonetheless.
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  But yeah, I'm trying this out with video because I just think
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  it would It'd be fun. And, you know, we can actually
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  see what people look like and and me if you care.
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  But anyway, we are back with well, a very friend of the show,
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  I'm going to call you friend of the show.
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  Now, Calamity Hatcher is back with us.
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  This is, how are you? I'm good, thank you.
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  How are you? This is the third time.
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  Andy, third time. It's the lucky one.
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  This is one that goes viral. Well, you never know.
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  With you to back, it can always go that way.
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  I'm a bit apprehensive as well because I don't have any prep at
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  all. I don't even have any notes
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  going into this which is not like me.
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  I've only done this one or two times before I don't know we're
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  talking about but you know hey that's the fun of it.
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  Well we can ask about about because we can see your your
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  background there. So I'm just going to start
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  stands about that. How much are LED lights?
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  They are. I think These are about 30
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  pounds Amazon, okay? But you can get, you can get
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  them. Cheaper than that on eBay, dude.
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  You can get them for like, tenor, drop.
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  Hmm. Solid investment.
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  My friend, a solid investment, maybe I will get them maybe just
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  maybe some recommend it everything just more Ambiance.
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  So what else have you got there to the far left?
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  That is that a series of comic books or something like that.
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  Now okay. Alright, so we're gonna go
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  through it so they I'm talking book shelf, right?
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  Yeah. So the ones that you can sew the
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  top, there's just a little display shelf which I've got
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  some funk on Pard sins and yeah and then belief that you've got
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  Funko pops and then there's some comics on there.
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  I'm trying to complete that particular tear, the one that my
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  hand is based on the level of now, which I've just noticed,
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  which is really convenient, okay?
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  And then the one below is just all Marvel graphic novels.
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  I've got the enough, Elation series and some of the big ones
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  Secret Wars Infinity that kind of thing.
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  Okay, below. You got a few, more fun goes
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  underneath that and my single issue Comics.
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  The only Comics that I really collect.
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  Now, a single issues are the Sonic comics, but there are
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  Marvel event comics and come out.
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  What I might tend to pick those up in single issues or they'll
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  go on that show. So them for people that like
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  myself, that have no idea what you're talking about.
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  What's the single issue coming. Where is you have like comic
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  aux-in storyline. So you might buy.
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  Oh, hold on. Is it like a standalone story
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  that net doesn't isn't necessarily Cannon?
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  No, it's part of a Continuing Story.
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  So whereas you might get a bit graphic novel, I have like the
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  infinity one. That is a collection of all of
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  the single issues that were released each month like in this
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  event that all, when you finish the entire event, you know, you
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  picked up all those single issues and you'd read every
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  single one and that was the climax of the event and all that
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  kind of thing. It's more like Series has.
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  So for instance, The Amazing Spider-Man is his own series and
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  every month releases a what we call a single issue, just a
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  small comic that will be continuing the ongoing story
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  from The Amazing Spider-Man, but then, you obviously have the
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  option to buy collections of those further after release on
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  Amazon and things like that, and they kind of collect them
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  together. So you can have that more.
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  Graphic novel format to it. So so suppose it is just like a
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  single story, that's essentially what it means in a way.
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  Like even though it's part of a longer story arc, it's like one
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  particular thing to agree but a lot of single issues you
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  couldn't pick up and just understand without reading the
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  other stuff, okay? This just to kind of come in at
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  entry points. And that's, you know, that's a
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  question. I get asked so much man that,
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  what, how do I start reading comics, but wait, My entry point
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  to reading comics, it's difficult.
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  It is a really difficult question to give people, you
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  know, is bad. If you were to say to me, you
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  know, I what I want to read hope comics and I'm going to say to
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  you, okay, well, I'm going to read, you know, say that you
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  should go with Planet Hulk. Hmm.
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  And that entire world war Hulk. And all of that kind of saga.
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  I wouldn't really know where to tell you to go from there to be
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  completely honest with you, because I'm not whole Creator.
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  But that, you know, each series each hero.
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  Has his his or her big moments. They're big story arcs so
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  there's normally the ones to get into.
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  I don't know why, but this reminded me of a weird memory
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  that I have. So I used to live back in school
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  days when they, when I lived in the beautiful rice lip, right?
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  I was across from a waitress so shout out to waitrose and
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  another one. Okay.
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  Yeah. It's very dear to my heart.
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  Anyway, it's a very weirdly built waitrose as well at
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  waitrose. Was looked with a least.
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  I believe that has a GP and it now or something.
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  Does he really well? Okay, something like that.
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  As you know it always know. I always had a GP.
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  I remember that. Yeah I never went there enough
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  to really well. You're missing my mom we weren't
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  upper class time okay neither were we were super poor just
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  happened to be the closest supermarket and my mom was like
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  I do I do I you know carry all this experience really heavy
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  shopping and because it depended on how old I was if I was older
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  it would be Easier to carry for longer.
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  But yeah, I'd always be helping with each out by the.
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  Yeah, yeah. Eventually we still frequent
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  twice and you know, they do frozen, Greg stuff.
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  And that's enough for me. They do frozen Greg's.
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  Did you not know about this? No.
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  Oh my God, I say draw woes, um, that all Greg's ones like bacon
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  and cheese wraps, fucking chicken baked all of it.
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  Oh my God, and it's frozen, it comes out like packs of two of
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  them and it's godman the oven to 225 minutes.
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  You're sorted mate. I honestly don't know about
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  this, this changed my life and this has been going on for a
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  fair few years. Now, I only found out last week.
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  Last week, I found out that Greg's deliver and that blue
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  Mind now to know I can buy them from Iceland what yet
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  exclusively Iceland. That's why Mom's go to Iceland
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  before we go carry on with Iceland.
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  Yeah, so that's of the waitressing, the reason I bring
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  it up is because you mentioned comics and for whatever reason,
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  I used to buy The Simpsons comics quite a lot.
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  I remember those. I'll say one thing, right?
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  It was good Simpson. As you know, it's very here miss
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  it depends on your humor. I guess.
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  I for me personally, the actual TV program kind of is weirdly
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  like started out being excellent and then it kind of changed and
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  then Family Guy came along and then it tried to sort of compete
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  with Family Guy. Even though Family Guy was
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  essentially based on Simpsons is weird.
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  It's not it's not bad but I don't it's not like iconic.
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  Like, it was back in saying nice.
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  He's to hell. Can a dead cow?
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  Yeah, I think it was good, one. They announced it was ending.
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  I was like, yes, it's good. Do you remember channel for the
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  show it every evening? Yeah, but that was a big thing
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  for me. And my dad every evening.
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  We would sit down and watch The Simpsons.
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  It was tradition. I'll go to that because I've got
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  so much to say on this like growing up in England.
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  But yeah, with the comics thing, I just wanted to really quickly
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  say that I actually think the Simpsons comics are highly
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  underrated in particular the Bart Simpson Comics as well.
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  Yeah, but man, my Were buying them for at least a couple of
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  years continuously like every week and the horror episodes
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  were excellent. There was like our tree house of
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  horrors. Yeah, I know.
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  So like whenever bar would dress up as like his superhero.
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  Alter Ego of man. But man.
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  Yeah that's it. And I remember getting a book as
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  well like a proper book comic at one point.
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  I was actually a massive fan. I think I got it that place
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  till, but ya know that I'm not either.
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  Surely. They actually they put a lot of
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  effort into it and I feel like in a way it doesn't really have
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  anything to do with the TV show. If anything, I preferred it to
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  the TV shows that she's just characters and the locations,
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  but Original Stories, kind of thing.
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  Yeah. But like it's more interesting
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  than TV show. I think and because they I
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  reckon it's that sort of thing of like because they know that
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  they don't have the same audience and that maybe not as
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  many people are consuming it. They can kind of just do
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  whatever the hell they want. Yeah lately you've seen that a
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  lot. Not in a lot of mediums video
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  games Comics. Like for instance, I don't know
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  if you know of the DC hero power of evil power, girl?
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  Yeah, now she is just basically female Superman 04 in layman's
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  terms. If there's any comic book nerds
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  that are watching this right now they're going to absolutely
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  Slaughter me. But for the general audience,
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  she's female Superman and they were aware that nobody was
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  reading their comic. So they I kept making her
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  breasts bigger. If you look at the character
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  now, it's ridiculous Double G's - I'm thinking.
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  I know nothing of this. I know we've sitting in a room
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  filled with Sonic stuff but I can tell you for a fact that
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  like just stupid. It's no wonder, it's no wonder
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  that our society has like body-conscious issues because
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  this is this is the same for men as well.
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  Like you read these comments and you see these guys in these
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  women and they have these unrealistic.
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  Bodies, like with the women, right?
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  They'll have these huge breasts and then, you know, like a body
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  that can't sustain that like the girls.
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  I've dated in the past that have had big breasts have always
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  complained to me about back pain and like how bad it is on your
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  spine. Yeah.
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  So like those characters you see in like superhero comics like
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  okay you can argue all the other superheroes, they don't feel
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  pain but it's like that. That would be not realistic.
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  Yeah, to pay such a perceived image, such a perceived.
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  Image and it's like, you know, all people have, like, fat old
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  people have, like two things about their body, that do not
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  fit that standard Norm that you're showing movies.
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  But when you actually think about it, realistically, it's
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  like a very small percentage of the world that actually look
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  like that. Like, I go and see a Marvel
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  movie and I'm seeing like Chris Pratt or Tom Hollander, whatever
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  with his top of thinking like damn I thought my body was All
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  right, but it's not that bad. Like look at that.
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  I can't compete with that. Who's like, well I'm not going
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  to that's like Jet like 10, 20 percent of the planet, and it's
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  just, it's unrealistic, expectations man.
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  Like what people are people can be, people are beautiful.
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  Just like their imperfections and I feel it's such like a meal
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  has to look like this and a lot of thing with that as well as
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  that those actors will be the first people to tell you like
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  how much work that goes into that.
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  And they'll help me. I'll show you like how they
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  looked before and stuff like, like it takes a long time, you
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  know, like fun. Like I'm not in the best shape
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  ever, but I'm definitely in better shape than I've been in
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  like all the years. And yeah, that's just through
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  pushing myself to a certain degree, but if I wanted to get
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  to like, where I actually want to go, I'd have to push it even
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  more so, and I'm prepared to do that.
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  But it's like a combinate, like a lot of people, for instance,
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  don't understand that, like food is actually.
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  Yeah, so much more important than like, working out working
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  out, like, 20% of the equation, like, what you eat is more,
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  Current at least. What's that?
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  Look at Dwayne The Rock Johnson. Yeah, every guy wants to like
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  Dwayne The Rock Johnson, every girl wants to look that built
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  the amount of food that man has to consume in a day in and then
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  exercise on top of that. Nobody has time for that that is
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  a full-time career. I will say this with a job.
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  How can you consume like hundred pounds worth of food a day?
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  Like I'm talking costs as well like Pounds worth of food every
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  day. Me and him are both Tauruses so
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  I can relate to him on this, right?
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  If you're a Taurus, typically, you mean, I understand there's
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  people that don't believe in this but like, I don't know, I
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  find that on a very basic level. There's like, these
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  characteristics that tend to be true for, like, your star signs
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  at least right. And we're totally torian's, 10
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  to eat and love to eat food and like that.
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  Yeah. But like, like like, More so
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  than more people like normal people like I've had to curb it
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  back over the years and not be so piggish when I eat because I
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  could just eat like that forever.
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  And I know he's the same when he's it gets down to like eating
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  time. It's like this is this isn't
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  just like I'm going to eat and then I feel bad.
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  This is like an experience. It's like I'm going to take out
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  that. I mean like food is very
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  important to me. Food is my probably my favorite
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  thing in the world that's being completely honest about that.
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  But mine is dogs and I love, I love like eating my meals and
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  cooking my meals and plan my meals, not gonna thing.
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  But a lot of these people that do this, I was watching some
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  stuff on it recently who do like this Mass eating bodybuilding
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  thing. Hmm.
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  They have to have sponsors to provide all of that food, all
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  right? Because like it's an ungodly
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  amount and what I mean is like if you're working a nine-to-five
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  for a 96 or, you know, whatever you're working.
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  How during that time? Have you got the time?
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  Prepare 5 meals? I don't know.
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  I can, I can go from my, I have my breakfast at work by getting
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  a bit early to do that and then I have my lunch lunch time, but
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  I can't just take breaks to be like, oh, hang on, I need to go
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  quick. Eat a very protein, heavy meal,
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  or whatever it was, you know, whether it's no protein or
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  whatnot, that you wouldn't necessarily have as a full-time
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  career doing that. He would necessarily have a
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  sponsor providing the food, but he'll definitely have a team of
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  professional cook. Chef something like that, 100%.
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  He's got the money though, right?
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  Yeah, but this is what I'm saying, like, you Yeah, those
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  people that have that obviously need the money to be able to do
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  that, but yeah, I thought about it as well, like, when it comes
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  to, my time, certainly in the future, when I get, you know,
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  when I'm able to do this for a living and stuff and do this
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  frequently, I can already tell it how busy I am right now, but
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  right now, I'm unemployed. So I've got time, but like that
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  won't be the case in the future and therefore, like I finally
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  get it, I used to think like our that was Entitled thing to have
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  like your own stuff and stuff, but now might know, ya know, you
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  need like chefs cleaners and assistant, you know, you need
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  all that stuff because you just don't have the time to do all
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  the meticulous stuff, but that's not to say, you didn't get some
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  point. It's like, you worked your ass
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  off to get to that point where you could afford to have a staff
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  but now you actually need the staff because yes anything is
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  going on. So I need an editor, dude, I say
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  it's only an editor that can I can.
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  Edit my daily content as it's coming out of the moment, but
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  that's games like playing video games.
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  I'm if I'm doing, like, video essays and stuff as well, which
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  I want to do, those are videos that take several days of
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  editing, I need an editor that can do that.
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  While I'm still grinding, game, pay things and doing streams
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  everyday, but, you know, YouTube Star semi that paycheck first.
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  Darla Darla coming, it's coming, it's coming, just hurry up.
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  Well, it's not your knees useful.
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  I'm not met criteria yet, but we're here.
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  Disappoint never to be going to hit but like initially that
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  paycheck is not going to be a lot like yeah, I'll be able to
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  quit but it's okay. I know I know it's not about the
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  money. It's about the symbol of it
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  like, it's just yeah. But yeah, it's not when you,
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  when you put this much work into like a channel as we both have
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  and all these editing hours eventually like you do want to
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  get something from it and I don't even want to get something
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  from it in the sense of Yeah, I want to go by like extravagant
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  things, like I think I just want to keep improving my setup to
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  improve my content. You know, like an exam I get
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  from YouTube, he's just gonna go into making the start by getting
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  the desktop instead of using this laptop, so I can render
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  better. I can render faster, I can, you
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  know, just so many things I can stream games from the actual
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  desktop itself, and just move the production quality up.
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  So I'm not sitting here, like goddamn I do to pay me but I'm
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  also like this is, you know, whatever I get.
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  Is going to help. And she didn't look, I agree
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  with you on this. Actually, I think the same way
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  like for instance, I have like a PayPal donation link and yeah so
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  far one person, what technically to, but the first person was
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  kind of doing it for fun, but the second person was a streamer
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  that I met recently. He's been on the podcast.
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  Shout out to steal Z, its primary.
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  I remember you saying about this primarily X1 dreamer, and I was
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  doing a twitch streamer. I'm one day, I'll just quickly
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  tell a story, I think I've told it before, but I did the last
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  podcast you recorded which because I send out at the time
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  of this being recorded. Did I already tell?
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  I'm sorry. You're towing the last one.
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  Jesus Christ. I got you a lucky guy.
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  Okay that's too many because I had a better Point than this.
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  I wasn't just going to read the cat.
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  Well I was going to recount the story but now I'm not going to
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  because you've already heard it but I'm at the point home know
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  when he did that. Obviously I wasn't expecting
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  that and I thought did cross my mind of like You know, I could
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  use this to pay my rent and stuff and then I thought, no,
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  no, like it, it's intended for this.
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  This is what it will go towards and also you know.
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  Yeah. You know like the the I think
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  the more you invest into it, when you can, the better it gets
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  and and like the more people take you seriously.
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  So like for instance, I got this Mike now.
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  It's like this beautiful blue. Yeah, me and it should Should
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  have used it before. It's funny how things work.
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  Actually, I'll tell a real quick story just because it's life is
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  finally time in story time. The job I used to work in in
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  back in Estonia my final job. One of the tasks I had was to do
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  a sort of podcast ironically and it wasn't really a podcast.
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  It was more like a spoken word version of the Articles we were
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  publishing. They just, you know, okay, had
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  an English guy working for them. Why not get me to do it, right?
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  And I took it seriously and I did it really well and the Mike
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  that was using happens to be this exact microphone is for the
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  win. And when I was about to leave,
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  We were negotiating me working, you know, from the UK and trying
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  to do it like freelance and I said, well I want to definitely
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  do this podcast stuff and in the end I think they said that I was
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  too young. I think say just huh, they
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  wanted to get a got someone who was around the age of like 50
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  and I think in the end, they just went back to the American
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  guy who was charging them more money.
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  So what what that's a bit? Yeah, it's silly.
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  This is a bit, I Were one of the things that they said and this
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  is why I'm bringing it up, is that?
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  Oh yeah we can't guarantee the quality as in they didn't trust
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  me to get have a good enough microphone, right?
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  And I just find it hilarious because now I have the exact
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  microphone and I always wished him up again.
• 20:21
  I always feel that actually messaging and be like, hey, so
• 20:24
  remember when you didn't want me now I actually have the
• 20:27
  microphone. Yeah, okay that's coming out I
• 20:33
  ain't as hell right now. So what you do is The everything
• 20:36
  you send them a few links and you say, look, my studio is is
• 20:41
  going up in the world. You wanna you wanna hit me up?
• 20:44
  I don't undercut. The American guy Bish bash Bosh.
• 20:48
  I wouldn't want to do it anyway. To be honest like for real, I
• 20:50
  wouldn't want to feel that you got do what you want to do.
• 20:54
  Well recently I actually got better offers for things like I
• 20:58
  won't say who but a friend of mine is making a video game
• 21:01
  right now and he appalled me too.
• 21:05
  Do a voice for the game so I'm like, oh my God.
• 21:09
  So I'm going to be illegal if he wants to to get that review out
• 21:14
  there, you know? And so of course yeah, I didn't
• 21:17
  make it up. Hey yeah, we do a review to an
• 21:22
  embargo or not and then big up to the hatchlings young people
• 21:27
  little my channel if I have the time actually because it's kind
• 21:31
  of getting crazy over here at the moment, we're getting a lot
• 21:33
  of guess, that's it. Good.
• 21:35
  I like to be busy getting me all the time.
• 21:37
  I'm just, I'm just sitting outside the front door.
• 21:39
  No, I love this because yeah and I first like proper regular
• 21:43
  guest now and I feel like I could just talk to you forever
• 21:45
  about anything. Yeah and it would still turn
• 21:47
  out. Alright so chill.
• 21:50
  This is your Cho podcast. Let's bring it back to you just
• 21:53
  for a little bit. So you've been working on a
• 21:56
  Shadow, the Hedgehog series, oh my God, Shadow the Hedgehog talk
• 22:01
  to us about that. So we are doing the Shadow, the
• 22:05
  Hedgehog series, we're completing the entire game.
• 22:09
  It every branching Story Mission like Arc has two endings when
• 22:15
  did the game there at 0 again? 2005, 2005.
• 22:20
  It was a massive staple of my childhood, this game.
• 22:22
  I remember because you are my love.
• 22:26
  You wouldn't shut the fuck up about it.
• 22:27
  I realized. Hey, I would finish all 11
• 22:30
  endings and then just start a new game.
• 22:33
  Like, I fucking love this game. I mean, that, that I've always
• 22:36
  said this about games. Like the best thing about a game
• 22:39
  is replayability, if it's repayable, even after many years
• 22:42
  then you know, it's a good game. I'll do the game is terrible.
• 22:46
  Well, I'm saying this, the game is awful.
• 22:48
  So why do you play right? It's my first time replaying it.
• 22:53
  Since I was a teenager so you only played it back then because
• 22:57
  of the different endings you wanted Sonic?
• 23:00
  Yeah. Like is that it was the new
• 23:01
  Sonic game. So I got there and obviously,
• 23:04
  that's my favorite character. So I got it.
• 23:06
  And at the time, I kind of, I didn't hate as much, like, it's
• 23:10
  not terrible. There were just a lot of things
• 23:13
  wrong with it, but when I was younger, I didn't pay attention
• 23:15
  to it. I've read that.
• 23:16
  The the actual in-game mechanics are bad, so you saying that the
• 23:20
  story is good, but the gameplay is bad kind of thing.
• 23:23
  Well, the story is basic as fuck because there's so many
• 23:27
  different story. But doesn't necessarily mean
• 23:29
  it's bad though. Desert basic stories.
• 23:32
  Its kind of non-existent But it's, it's okay.
• 23:36
  So if one reference is it references, certain things and I
• 23:39
  builds off of certain things, okay, the archanan in the Sonic
• 23:43
  Universe, so it's fine. Like the you've already said
• 23:46
  that Sonic Cannon is BS. So, Sonic hadn't is BS.
• 23:51
  It's literally references Sonic Adventure 2, and Sonic Heroes
• 23:55
  saying that they happened. So it's like that.
• 24:00
  It's just, you know what? As When you look at it, not even
• 24:04
  necessarily in continuity, terms is Shadow story of figuring out.
• 24:13
  What he's here for ball? Because he saved the world
• 24:18
  despite thinking that he should have destroyed it and then he
• 24:20
  changed his mind and save the world.
• 24:24
  And then he was kind of lost. He was like well this is kind of
• 24:27
  like take it or leave it out at you.
• 24:28
  Like yeah, I could I could destroy the world.
• 24:30
  I could save it. Well, you know, I feel so when
• 24:33
  Shadow tried to destroy the world, he his best friend would
• 24:37
  try to destroy the world was on the Bass Colony Ark, he when he
• 24:48
  was like, that's what he was created.
• 24:49
  He had a best friend, who has a 10 year old girl called Maria,
• 24:52
  then when the government raided the space Colony Ark because
• 24:55
  they thought that Gerald Robotnik was building something
• 24:59
  to fuck up the world which he was alongside Shadow, they
• 25:03
  thought it was Shadow and it kind of was like Shadow is the
• 25:07
  ultimate life form. So when they tried to get to the
• 25:10
  Escape pod, Shadow Maria and Maria sealed shut Shadow in the
• 25:15
  Escape pod as the soldiers came in and released him and just got
• 25:19
  shot in the head for it. That's done dead.
• 25:23
  So they reference that they, they go into that, they go into
• 25:27
  like, how Shadow is created, what forces were at play?
• 25:31
  And it you know it's like it's not a great game but it's a
• 25:36
  nice. I like it.
• 25:37
  I still I still love it but it's just a bit.
• 25:42
  Broken in places like in one of the episodes the episode that's
• 25:45
  going to go up. Tomorrow the time recording this
• 25:50
  tomorrow, there is a moment with no not tomorrow.
• 25:54
  The next day there is a boss fight with Eggman that he's just
• 25:58
  ridiculous and shows that the homing attack is just doesn't
• 26:00
  work properly and there's things like that, you know, and it's
• 26:06
  but it's been a lot of fun but unfortunately I lost everything.
• 26:11
  Oh wait, I think I saw you message.
• 26:12
  Yeah yeah everything to spend the day.
• 26:17
  Finishing the story arcs I had started.
• 26:20
  That was the new story out there was going to be after this one.
• 26:23
  Yes. Then I have to go back and
• 26:25
  replay this one up to a certain point then record it.
• 26:28
  So the next video is actually gonna be like, just short of 20
• 26:31
  minute video because I was like, no fuck it.
• 26:33
  The whole thing's going in one and we're finishing this story
• 26:35
  arc and I'm moving on to the next one because I've already do
• 26:38
  it once. And the thing is, I have to do
• 26:40
  them all twice. Anyway, to get both endings to
• 26:46
  get the final. No fucking level ending and it's
• 26:50
  just, this has happened. But might as well, we're gonna
• 26:54
  get Shadow out. This happened to me one time as
• 26:57
  well, and I remember sort of resenting, the game of the bird.
• 27:03
  That's like, how many times do I have to do just fucking going
• 27:08
  legit? Like, he's taking a toll, man,
• 27:11
  we struggling out here. It's funny as well as it because
• 27:14
  it's a game in the principal purpose of a game.
• 27:17
  Miss for enjoyment yet somehow, I could just stress you out and
• 27:20
  annoy. Yes, this fucker right here is
• 27:24
  causing me shit. This fucking game.
• 27:28
  Does it would you say the game holds up today?
• 27:32
  15 years later? Nobody has known that?
• 27:35
  It doesn't like it is been the joke of well, Sonics career as a
• 27:42
  bit of a joke, okay. All right.
• 27:44
  So what's Objectively.
• 28:05
  Okay. It is 06 but I have so much love
• 28:11
  for o6y. Haven't played it since 2006,
• 28:15
  this exist, maybe 2008 but I do have love for it.
• 28:21
  I'm gonna be playing at soon. I remember there's a thousand
• 28:24
  drivers Street. I don't know what it was.
• 28:27
  It was a game around. Then when they saw when they
• 28:30
  started making. Did they make any other games
• 28:32
  for the Xbox 360? Sorry ones.
• 28:36
  Yeah. East, maybe I remember playing
• 28:40
  one of them and I'm, I never played Sonic 06, but I've seen
• 28:44
  people play and I just, oh yeah, Sonic Generations as well.
• 28:47
  Could be that. I just remember the game that I
• 28:49
  played was excellent and I do obviously played, you know, so
• 28:52
  Sonic on the Mega Drive and stuff.
• 28:54
  So seeing it 3D was kind of pretty cool.
• 28:56
  What was the premise like, what did you have to go?
• 28:59
  Did you go through Greenhill? I don't, I don't know.
• 29:04
  Remember, that is here's a little.
• 29:05
  This is like at least 15 more years ago.
• 29:07
  Go. I can do as you Greenhill.
• 29:10
  I know what it is. How come a very remember?
• 29:12
  What happened yesterday? Me.
• 29:13
  So that's all that equipment. That is a valid point, but then
• 29:18
  my son acknowledges on point. No, no.
• 29:19
  So I would expect I lose everything else but my Sonic
• 29:22
  knowledge is still What's the what's the coolest Sonic fact
• 29:28
  that you know? I'm going to divulge you with
• 29:35
  to, that's okay. If that if that's alright.
• 29:38
  If you will permit me, this, I mean not many people give me a
• 29:41
  platform to talk about Sonic so I'm going to go for a moment, go
• 29:44
  for it. Okay.
• 29:45
  So one is that Michael Jackson actually produced the music for
• 29:53
  something Hedgehog 3. However, is name is not on the
• 29:57
  project because he didn't like how 16-bit music sounded he
• 30:04
  didn't. But it tastes music but hold up,
• 30:06
  hold up. Hold up.
• 30:08
  Yep a game was released I believe for the Sega Genesis
• 30:13
  called Moon Michael at. Yeah, yeah so that's what pulled
• 30:18
  him in. Moving that game that pulled MJ
• 30:22
  into it. So he did that game.
• 30:24
  He did moonwalk, I think he did it.
• 30:27
  I don't think he really have anything to do with it.
• 30:29
  It was savior that I'll get which okay, which came first
• 30:33
  Sonic 3 or I mean Walker. I'm not sure.
• 30:38
  I think it was Moonwalker. Okay.
• 30:40
  So that's what I called him in and he was okay.
• 30:42
  There's Jesse. And I think he was like, they
• 30:45
  were like, look, oh, we'd love to get you to do the music on
• 30:47
  this and he didn't like how it sounded, but unfortunately like
• 30:50
  that point in development right too bad.
• 30:54
  Me. So, there are there's a video
• 30:58
  you can find out there. I can't remember the specific
• 31:02
  sort of like, for me, but I think there's one bit where you
• 31:04
  can hear. Music from Sonic 3 and you can
• 31:08
  all like it's bad basically. Like, it's like, it's a problem
• 31:14
  that I'm not that bad, but like, in the background, whatever it
• 31:19
  is like, yo I don't know, I can't remember the exact
• 31:23
  specifics but yeah, that's a legit thing.
• 31:25
  So Michael Jackson basically did the music for Sonic 3 but does
• 31:30
  not have an official credit or title.
• 31:33
  I never knew that. That's actually pretty cool fact
• 31:37
  and I'll give you a second one. This is this also I think is a
• 31:40
  really good story in a very wholesome story.
• 31:43
  So I'm going to give a shout out to another YouTuber here who to
• 31:47
  be honest. If you watching my stuff you've
• 31:49
  probably heard of him, it's called bad Nick mechanic.
• 31:52
  He's a sonnet YouTuber and he started this thing boat about
• 31:56
  two years ago. Where there is a in the I
• 32:00
  believe with the Fuji Forest in Japan, there are on the side of
• 32:04
  the road in a random mountainous Trail.
• 32:07
  There are two tree stumps and there is a Sonic On a snowboard
• 32:14
  placed on top of them. I've seen big model.
• 32:18
  Yeah, it's awesome. And he put this video up, trying
• 32:21
  to explain trying to find out the origins of it.
• 32:23
  Like what has actually happened to it?
• 32:25
  When did it come from? And throughout his research and
• 32:29
  the masses of people that they're going to find out about
• 32:32
  this statue, they found out that it was owned by a retired arcade
• 32:39
  owner and he He's not sure how it was placed.
• 32:45
  No, I think he placed it there as a kind of an entry point to
• 32:49
  something and it was just a nice little thing that he did when he
• 32:53
  didn't only arcade anymore. And unfortunately, the years had
• 32:56
  really not been kind to it, it was it was from the 90s and even
• 33:00
  battered by weather and it was really a shadow of what it used
• 33:04
  to be fine. Recently, they go through
• 33:10
  talking to the guys family. Lee and talking through say
• 33:13
  eager and with this YouTuber directly and working, as a trio,
• 33:18
  they actually managed to retrieve the statue, and
• 33:21
  completely clean it up and return it to its former glory.
• 33:25
  And it's been placed exactly where it was previously.
• 33:28
  The same statue, just finely polished sitting there as this
• 33:33
  mysterious piece of Sonic are yet, you know something.
• 33:38
  Something even bigger than the fact.
• 33:40
  It's Sonic just this little Sturdy in the forest witch in
• 33:44
  the Fuji Forest in Japan but let's just think that's that's
• 33:46
  incredible. Such a wholesome story, it's
• 33:49
  really cool. It makes me think a lot about,
• 33:51
  you know, this Obsession we have as humans where we're so
• 33:56
  desperate to preserve the past even though it's impossible to
• 33:58
  go back, you can only move forwards, right?
• 34:01
  And I understand like the basics, you know?
• 34:03
  It's because we don't want to forget the past, and many of us
• 34:05
  are very sentiment. I know I am.
• 34:07
  I'm very I look to the past and I miss it like so badly.
• 34:13
  But but it's like I, although I will say this though, when I
• 34:19
  miss it, most is when I'm looking at what exists now and
• 34:23
  it doesn't measure up. So like I agree not with
• 34:26
  everything. Some things are brilliant.
• 34:27
  Like, you know, internet now versus internet, 15 years ago.
• 34:32
  Trump's it like I would much rather have internet.
• 34:35
  Now then internet then, right? But when it comes to things,
• 34:38
  like, I don't know, like architecture, you know, it's
• 34:40
  like kind of depressed. Sing.
• 34:43
  Yeah, I'd much prefer old architecture to yeah, DT.
• 34:49
  Nice. Why I'm slam is one of my
• 34:50
  favorite cities in Europe. It is the architecture there is
• 34:54
  just fantastic. All these beautiful old and
• 34:57
  there that it's a stylized form of house.
• 35:00
  Always on a dark night with their lights on next to a canal
• 35:03
  that slit with string. I'm that kind of thing.
• 35:05
  Just speaks to me, man. Like I'd much rather that than
• 35:08
  some of these houses that are, like, cubes that are adjacent.
• 35:12
  To each other kind of Judge. I mean I much prefer classical
• 35:15
  architecture in that regard. I think in Europe they have the
• 35:17
  right idea as well liked and what I mean by that is like if
• 35:22
  you take Talon in Estonia or the Czech Republic Prague
• 35:26
  specifically both of those places have done this thing
• 35:29
  where you know they have their Old Town.
• 35:33
  So in Tallinn Estonia you know old town is like its own thing,
• 35:38
  you know. And like around it is you know
• 35:41
  new Iraq. Picture, but not immediately
• 35:43
  there. There's like a bit of a
• 35:45
  distance, right? And the same thing is true in
• 35:49
  Prague, but it's a bit more pronounced because obviously
• 35:51
  Prague has a bigger city and you've got like this big massive
• 35:56
  Bridge that's like how can I explain?
• 36:01
  It's like a very Grand Bridge. It's incredible.
• 36:03
  And basically one side is like old Gothic type architecture,
• 36:08
  really old like Old Town basically and then you go to the
• 36:11
  other side. Side.
• 36:12
  And it's like new city and like you got older buildings there as
• 36:16
  well, but it's predominantly newer architecture, and it's
• 36:19
  kind of like, yeah, keeping those things separate, but
• 36:25
  blending them as well. Whereas, if you take somewhere
• 36:27
  like London, you know, you do have areas that are
• 36:30
  predominately just old stuff but I see a lot of like, yeah, you
• 36:33
  know, like it depressing in the last 10 years, I've seen?
• 36:36
  Like if you get the train into let's say.
• 36:41
  Past like Canary Wharf and that way right?
• 36:43
  Yeah. You'll see like a lot of like so
• 36:47
  many developments both houses our block building every
• 36:50
  paragraph. Yeah.
• 36:51
  And then every now and again you'll see like just a random
• 36:54
  old church sitting there miserable.
• 36:56
  Yeah. And I'm like, I don't know why
• 37:00
  it's for me. Like some people are like, oh
• 37:02
  it's amazing. Like look at Dubai.
• 37:03
  Look at how amazing that is. And it's like, yeah, but like
• 37:06
  Dubai, you know, there was nothing there before it was just
• 37:10
  too fucking dangerous. Yeah.
• 37:11
  And they built off that and they built something and that I
• 37:14
  understand. But they still have like areas
• 37:16
  that I like older and like not course and I don't know.
• 37:21
  I just yeah it's not that I hate like no I hate newer
• 37:25
  developments like that like I can I can go to, you know, most
• 37:30
  places and think it's a great. But I think just me Percy 10
• 37:34
  live him I like that kind of aesthetic over the house.
• 37:40
  I live in this world and, you know, it's it's weird what you
• 37:45
  say about it because Nostalgia is I think the most powerful
• 37:50
  thing in the world right now. I think everyone Banks almost
• 37:53
  Alger and I actually had a thought process the other day
• 37:57
  whereas like my happiest memories are in Florida when I
• 38:01
  was about from 13 to 15 being in Florida.
• 38:04
  USA. And now the thought of being in
• 38:08
  Florida here, terrifies. You absolutely terrifies.
• 38:13
  Me, I will go back one day because I'm going to do my
• 38:17
  Disney, my Universal thing, and I'm going to have a great talent
• 38:20
  but Jesus Christ. Am I going to be so much more on
• 38:23
  edge than I was previously? I think many of us were like
• 38:27
  that, like, I grew up adoring America and then when I went
• 38:31
  there, when I was 21, you know, I went to many places.
• 38:35
  One of them in particular kind of opened my eyes about what
• 38:37
  it's like in America, you hear the stories and stuff.
• 38:40
  But I think that when you actually go and experience it
• 38:43
  for yourself, you sit like in California California's sold is
• 38:47
  this, you know, California Dream.
• 38:49
  It's perfect everything, amazing, right?
• 38:51
  And then when you go there, I mean, you can say the same for
• 38:54
  any place in the world ever, okay, if this is the case, but
• 38:58
  California, especially when you look at like the proliferation
• 39:01
  of American Media around the world, it's really thrown out
• 39:04
  there has been like this This perfect place in and you go
• 39:08
  there and you go to places like downtown Long Beach and it's
• 39:11
  like you've got tons of drug addicts and homelessness and
• 39:15
  people unhappy and don't get me wrong.
• 39:20
  Don't Beach is a beautiful area. It is that have have a Pokemon
• 39:23
  go YouTuber, like follow for years, that lives there.
• 39:26
  So I've seen a lot of it through his stuff, but I think I see the
• 39:31
  issue with a lot of La in general.
• 39:35
  It's what we actually studied in geography and Hayden.
• 39:39
  Please. What's called a donor?
• 39:40
  Yeah, it was but we certainly did and it was a donut call it,
• 39:44
  doughnut City. Okay.
• 39:46
  And it's like you have the center bit that is all like the
• 39:51
  glitz and the Glam. Right?
• 39:54
  And then everything around, that is just poverty.
• 39:57
  Yep. And it's crazy, like, America's
• 40:01
  the amount of homeless people in America, it's just Crazy.
• 40:05
  I know obviously they have a vastly bigger population but you
• 40:10
  don't see that when you go on holiday, you know I meet your
• 40:13
  particular as a child. I think you do more now
• 40:15
  obviously. I think it's just sing the crap.
• 40:17
  Your parents do a very good job of keeping your sheltered from
• 40:20
  it because obviously when we when I was 21 so I'm an adult at
• 40:24
  that point still clueless moron but old enough to kind of
• 40:29
  understand what's going on and understand like the seriousness
• 40:33
  of things and I think the thing that made me sad is the Vault
• 40:38
  because you know, there's homelessness everywhere and
• 40:42
  people suffering and shit like that.
• 40:43
  You know, I've had friends who have been homeless, I've seen it
• 40:48
  in London, I've seen it in all sorts of places in Estonia even.
• 40:53
  But in America, at least where I went to, I remember talking to
• 40:59
  some of these people and a lot of them are really nice and, you
• 41:04
  know, good people just Hospitable.
• 41:07
  Just imagine that, you know, just hard times and and I try
• 41:11
  and help them wherever I could and such.
• 41:13
  But I remember talking to this one woman who I think she was
• 41:20
  like a meth addict or something like that and we would just
• 41:25
  talking to her and I know people going to call me crazy for this,
• 41:29
  but I was with someone else and she wasn't like, you know,
• 41:32
  scariest character ever. She's like clearly fallen on
• 41:35
  hard times but like not. Like the worst of the worst I
• 41:39
  guess and she was talking to us because we were saying like well
• 41:42
  what's the situation with like you're a government here or you
• 41:45
  know like because obviously you know UK we have like councils
• 41:49
  local councils like do they help?
• 41:51
  Yeah support and she basically just said like they do sometimes
• 41:56
  give money but it's like basically just worthless like
• 41:59
  pitiful amounts and a lot of the time you have to jump through
• 42:02
  hurdles to get this stuff and it's not always available and I
• 42:06
  But learning the same thing when I started to speak into homeless
• 42:09
  people in London as well. And I remember, even the area
• 42:12
  that I went to University, I befriended some homeless people
• 42:16
  and they said the same thing. They said, like I know so well
• 42:19
  and good people saying or go get the support, go get the help,
• 42:22
  it's there and it's like when you actually go through the
• 42:25
  processes and try to get it like for instance, there's this thing
• 42:29
  that you have to do. Let's say you're homeless and
• 42:32
  you're trying to get just a temporary place of residence.
• 42:36
  You have to apply on our like a register, so bear in mind.
• 42:40
  Like you got nowhere to be right now.
• 42:43
  Nowhere to go like maybe some places like he's into that or
• 42:46
  phone. A lot of the time with that too.
• 42:49
  But also like, just look at the basics like you're sleeping on
• 42:51
  the streets. Let's say it's midst of winter
• 42:54
  and it's harsh weather generally mean, right?
• 42:58
  Some places will have more, you know, develops facilities and
• 43:03
  stuff. So you might have somewhere to
• 43:04
  go but then there's the issue of overcrowding.
• 43:06
  It's not always necessarily available to you but also first
• 43:11
  of those places that don't have that you've got this like this
• 43:14
  system in place, sort of like the the council house system
• 43:19
  similar concept you're on a waiting list so you could be on
• 43:22
  that waiting list for fucking potentially years and never find
• 43:26
  a place and all that, while you're homeless, you know,
• 43:30
  you've got to try and make ends meet, you got a and like the
• 43:33
  whole time like Society is getting more and more.
• 43:40
  Less sort of caring and yeah, I'm generalizing a little bit
• 43:43
  here. I realize not everyone is like
• 43:45
  that. Lots of people do, you know
• 43:48
  donations, they do initiatives to help people and stuff and
• 43:52
  there's a lot of good in the world, but I'm just saying,
• 43:54
  like, your average person probably has the attitude of
• 43:57
  like, oh, I'm going to give money to the homeless because,
• 44:00
  you know, they'll just use it to spend money on drugs or they'll
• 44:03
  do this or do that. And it's just a like that.
• 44:08
  Now, It's and it's just putting it to give you an example as
• 44:12
  well, right? Let's say you're in that
• 44:15
  scenario that I just laid out right there.
• 44:17
  Yeah. Where it's winter.
• 44:19
  You've got nowhere to go, you're going to be freezing your ass
• 44:23
  off. I'll tell you this much, if
• 44:25
  you're in a cold country, right. The very first like I know when
• 44:28
  I was in Estonia, the very first thing I would say if I was said
• 44:30
  I was really, really cold or coming down with a cold, they
• 44:33
  say, Okay, drink some vodka and it's not a joke or anything.
• 44:36
  It's a scientific thing that, you know, actually obviously He
• 44:41
  eats you up, you know, it kind of brings the temperature down
• 44:44
  then bring it up again, so it's actually keeping you warm.
• 44:46
  Hence, why a lot of people might decide to go down that route
• 44:50
  because it actually keeps them alive.
• 44:53
  And it's not just about getting, you know, getting a Nellie's off
• 44:55
  and getting drunk at there is actually some logic to it.
• 44:59
  So if you've got nuts a well that's all tomorrow, and he's
• 45:08
  just sleeping. People are idiots is where
• 45:10
  they're like, oh I'm gonna give money to the homeless because
• 45:13
  they're doing drugs and it's like, yeah, but what do you do
• 45:14
  on a weekend partly? Exact same fucking thing that
• 45:21
  you see in this country. Yeah.
• 45:23
  Is that there is a massive demand for housing now, right?
• 45:25
  But the housing that is being built, is not affordable.
• 45:28
  Housing, none is given to people who are homeless, there's
• 45:34
  nothing to do with that. That situation at all.
• 45:37
  There are a Ridiculous amount. I don't have this the statistic
• 45:41
  but there are ridiculous amount of homes in the UK that have no
• 45:45
  be living at them. Yeah, I know this is ridiculous.
• 45:47
  So much space out there. There is, there are homes for
• 45:52
  people and they are blocked behind, ridiculous, pay walls
• 45:55
  that I can't afford the full time job.
• 45:57
  I can't afford to live in most of these places.
• 45:59
  So, how is someone sleeping on the streets going to be able to
• 46:02
  afford that there's no support system in place?
• 46:05
  It's all this housing is just structured for And there's
• 46:09
  nothing there to try and help people and it sucks, dude.
• 46:13
  But it's one of the things literally it's awful.
• 46:18
  One of the things that annoys me the most actually on that topic
• 46:21
  is I know there are certain places in London where certain
• 46:25
  streets where it like they're all owned by like foreign
• 46:28
  investors like Saudi investors and stuff, who are never there
• 46:33
  right? Like never there come home.
• 46:35
  Well if that like a lot of the time Easily.
• 46:39
  There just are not occupied like you said.
• 46:41
  So they're literally just owned to make money to monopolize
• 46:45
  monopolize, you know, as, as like assets essentially yes.
• 46:50
  Like, well, you know, if you're not going to, I think there
• 46:52
  should be some rule in place for that.
• 46:54
  Like, if it's not actively being used and you shouldn't be
• 46:56
  allowed to own it or like you should be forced to, like,
• 46:59
  maybe. Yeah, to written up to provide
• 47:02
  it for the homeless, maybe you should know, maybe that's and
• 47:04
  then they worked it and they rented for prices that nobly
• 47:08
  conversion or renting Maybe they have to like legally, you can
• 47:11
  put a law in place to legally, force them to others.
• 47:14
  There is a thing. Now, where I think with a lot of
• 47:16
  places, a lot of councils to, for any new estate that's built.
• 47:20
  You have to give like, 20% to social housing.
• 47:25
  It's like 20 Council housing, but one that isn't enough more.
• 47:30
  People need Council housing now because rents are so expensive.
• 47:34
  You know, it's not easy to and property more and more people
• 47:38
  rely on it. There is a greater need and
• 47:41
  Council housing. Does not really do a lot for
• 47:45
  homeless people in that regard either like to apply to be on a
• 47:49
  council house list. You need to have access to the
• 47:52
  internet. You have a computer, you can sit
• 47:55
  down and go through these forms to do how you doing that as a
• 47:59
  homeless person like it's it's every odds stacked against them.
• 48:06
  And it's cruel, man. It's like there's no helping
• 48:09
  hand for people like that anymore.
• 48:11
  You have these wonderful organizations that do House
• 48:14
  people. It's Charities, and whatnot, and
• 48:16
  they're doing far more generally than the color ones.
• 48:19
  We can name, drop things. Obviously, I know, it's pretty
• 48:22
  good one, but you find a lot of other Salvation.
• 48:27
  Army, of course. Hmm.
• 48:31
  You know, there's a fair, there's a fair few places and
• 48:34
  You know, they need more support from the government.
• 48:36
  The end of the day, they need to have more funding.
• 48:40
  They need to have a say in things.
• 48:42
  Like, when they're building new housing Estates, there is a
• 48:44
  section of it, that is reserved for them and permanent housing
• 48:48
  people. But, you know, I'm not going to
• 48:50
  sit here and, and talk about why I should be running the country
• 48:55
  because I have some shouldn't just Hatcher for prime minister.
• 48:59
  I'm God, can you imagine more hot?
• 49:01
  No, no no no, no. All right, the Think I'm doing
• 49:04
  National Sonic fast? No, no National Sonic day.
• 49:10
  I am reversing okay. ID checks on energy drinks in
• 49:15
  supermarkets. Okay, look just by first enough
• 49:19
  just because you look about ourselves.
• 49:21
  Listen, I know, but I don't - everywhere idea.
• 49:27
  Jesus Christ, it's just painful, do you even do?
• 49:31
  Get id'd, even if you have a bid.
• 49:35
  Well one, I thank you for calling this a beard.
• 49:39
  This little, this little thing sometimes.
• 49:43
  I remember, I've had people say to me like, why are you putting
• 49:46
  your idea out my? Alright, fair enough, I have a
• 49:48
  lot of other people like I see your ID and I'm like, I've got
• 49:51
  facial hair and they're like, no, no, no, I need to see your
• 49:53
  ID, so, you know it's a mixed bag.
• 49:55
  I remember when I was about 20, I don't know if I've told this
• 49:57
  story in the podcast before or at all actually, but basically I
• 50:02
  was about I was definitely early 20s or late teens like I looked
• 50:10
  old enough. Okay definitely enough like okay
• 50:14
  look so I was trying to get like Lottery scratch cards.
• 50:17
  I had a little phase where I was kind of addicted to them that's
• 50:20
  super addictive by the way. So because yeah, they are just
• 50:23
  right. And I didn't waste too much.
• 50:25
  But I wasted a little bit and I was trying to be waiting up.
• 50:30
  Yeah, but I think I wasted like 30 40 pounds until Yeah, it
• 50:35
  wasn't a like, I let my lesson. I was like, yeah, this is a bit
• 50:38
  silly, but it was like someone had told me, like, you're gonna
• 50:41
  get addicted. I was like, no, I don't worry
• 50:42
  own and then before, you know it, you know, because it builds
• 50:45
  up like, I wouldn't like bet that much.
• 50:47
  Like in one go, I would, you know, fiber here 5 here and then
• 50:50
  it would just get completely. But this one time I go to this
• 50:55
  stool in Uxbridge, Kingdom of hooks.
• 50:59
  Oh, that's rich. Or poor Oxbridge, Steiner death.
• 51:04
  Anyway, it's just not what it was.
• 51:06
  But anyway, let's I don't talk about depression.
• 51:09
  So I who I was there and I was trying to get served for a
• 51:14
  scratch card and I think you have to be.
• 51:17
  I think 16 or 15. Yeah, they had to be 15.
• 51:21
  It's very weird. That the only thing we have to
• 51:23
  be 15 years old. Some of them are 18 maybe now,
• 51:27
  but this was like probably like eight years ago.
• 51:31
  He's a minute, maybe less. But they were like, yeah, I'm
• 51:37
  going to need to see some ID and I just started laughing like,
• 51:40
  you know, I can. Oh yeah, very funny.
• 51:42
  And he was like, no, no, for real.
• 51:43
  And I'm like, okay, let and as a backup for second, right?
• 51:47
  Because I know what you're doing.
• 51:49
  But like I said, I looked at this guy right in the face and I
• 51:51
  was like that. Do you honestly think that I'm
• 51:55
  not 15? That's like look at me.
• 52:00
  Just, just look at me for a second.
• 52:02
  Jesus crowd one. And I was like, are you kidding
• 52:05
  me? He didn't embarrass but he still
• 52:09
  wouldn't Serbian. I was liar, right on, I'll just
• 52:11
  go to that store over there then, but like I wasn't trying
• 52:16
  to be a knob because I know that like, you get ideas for stuff
• 52:19
  but like, I genuinely looked away old.
• 52:22
  I might have even had a beard. I can't remember.
• 52:24
  But, you know, I look definitely looked old enough, so sometimes
• 52:29
  these things kind of annoy me. I mean, I used to work in a
• 52:31
  supermarket back in the day and I remember someone getting
• 52:34
  caught by that Challenge, 25 rule thing and I was clearly,
• 52:38
  like, 30 years old. He was about 7 foot.
• 52:42
  It was embarrassing. He didn't have his ID and it's
• 52:44
  obviously is like me. It's like, you know, you stop
• 52:46
  carrying it after a while because it's like, you don't
• 52:49
  need it. Like if I got id'd now, I'd be
• 52:52
  flattered but I just be like, that's a bit ridiculous.
• 52:55
  I mean, I've got like wrinkles here like and white hair so you
• 52:58
  can you I always have my ID on me.
• 53:01
  Where did enough as you look about five?
• 53:03
  So that's understandable. But then like I've always found,
• 53:08
  it's not when I've been in those situations and I've been like a
• 53:12
  bit pissy about it, not not pissy pissy.
• 53:15
  But you know, I mean it's not them.
• 53:17
  I'm pissed that it's just the sods law that the one time.
• 53:22
  Yeah. Like don't bring my idea how
• 53:24
  they are. See it because I'll be honest,
• 53:25
  like, very ready. I do get asked for it now but I
• 53:28
  always, I pull my wallet and my passport, I always carry my
• 53:32
  passport. Weird, I know, but it's a to my
• 53:34
  back pocket for like 10 years and always Never lost it so
• 53:37
  bucket and I always pull them both out at the same time and I
• 53:41
  think it must be a thing of like if they have any shadow of a
• 53:44
  doubt in their mind, the fact that I'm pulling out my ID as I
• 53:47
  pull out, my wallet means they just come over to check it.
• 53:49
  Like they know that point you're not going to pull out a passport
• 53:53
  to be underage. I so I very rarely do but it's
• 53:57
  always that one time that one time, I don't have it for some
• 54:01
  reason. I've left it at home. /, can I
• 54:03
  see some ID? It's a good.
• 54:05
  It's a good poem. So true you can fix game is so
• 54:10
  true. It has happened to me so many
• 54:12
  times. I can't remember one time.
• 54:14
  And this is, I think this is it comes down to like where you go
• 54:18
  as well. Like, I remember being invited
• 54:21
  to like a work trip. I think I was working in the
• 54:23
  supermarket at the time. So I was quite young.
• 54:25
  It's like 19, 20, ish, and a lot of these places.
• 54:32
  I think had she had to be 20. What I think I was no, was, I
• 54:35
  was just shy of 21, but I think it's either 21 or 18.
• 54:40
  I can't remember, it's very confusing, but I was in
• 54:42
  Leicester Square and we were a comedy show and I forgot to
• 54:47
  bring my ID, I genuinely just got.
• 54:50
  And I was, I was dating someone at the time and they had theirs
• 54:53
  and They refused to allow me out because they didn't have it and
• 54:59
  I was like shit and I walked away and I was talking to my
• 55:03
  ex-girlfriend at the time and she was just like, why didn't
• 55:05
  you bring? Are you an idiot or something
• 55:07
  like, you know, I'm not trying to be mean, but like how come on
• 55:09
  like we're in London. Like, and I was like, I just
• 55:12
  didn't think I just because you don't you, like, you get to a
• 55:16
  certain age where you're just like, oh my God, I did.
• 55:18
  And like I guess that was kind of my thing when I realized I
• 55:21
  didn't have it. I was like, well, there's a
• 55:23
  chance, they'll say, no. But I mean, come on.
• 55:25
  Olli and basically it took a lot of gravel groveling for one of
• 55:29
  my managers to, to the bouncer, to try and get me in, but my
• 55:34
  God, in the end, I got in. Luckily, but that that was a
• 55:38
  perfect example of like the place that you're at is, is
• 55:42
  everything. But like, I don't know,
• 55:43
  sometimes it's silly. Like I was, I remember it was my
• 55:47
  birthday a couple of years ago. It was in the Tesco and okay,
• 55:51
  fair enough. This is a student town.
• 55:53
  So you can make the argument that our case some students.
• 55:55
  It's a younger and such, but like, again, I think you have to
• 55:58
  use your common sense, particularly if you work in a
• 56:00
  supermarket, like, I think, I don't think I ever id'd anyone
• 56:04
  when I worked in a supermarket because everyone looked old
• 56:07
  enough and I'm sorry people teenagers, don't try in
• 56:11
  supermarkets, you try it in like a knife license or something.
• 56:15
  Yeah, Jimena mean saved Mark? Yeah, like people can spot you a
• 56:19
  mile away and I know they do The Challenge 25 thing fine.
• 56:23
  But this is ridiculous. Like Okay so We've done all this
• 56:27
  shopping. I've got my ex-girlfriend with
• 56:28
  me. She's to my right.
• 56:30
  She doesn't have her ID, but I do write.
• 56:33
  But this is my birthday. I'm buying everything like it's
• 56:37
  fine. What's the issue, right?
• 56:38
  We get all of the stuff scanned. And this is what kind of annoy
• 56:45
  me, because, if this was going to happen, and the woman kind of
• 56:48
  saw, the alcohol, felt like she decided to scan the alcohol last
• 56:52
  after everything had been scanned and then say, yeah, I'm
• 56:55
  going to need See your ideas well to my ex and my exercise.
• 56:58
  Well, I don't have my ID and again my ex looked older than me
• 57:04
  even no offense. Yeah, watching that's not how I
• 57:07
  mean it but like she looks, you know, like a very mature woman
• 57:10
  and quite clearly in her mid-20s same with me.
• 57:14
  Like it was ridiculous and we just got refused.
• 57:17
  And I never forget what the woman said she was.
• 57:21
  She's one of those like mousey women.
• 57:22
  That's like jobs work type of person.
• 57:24
  She's like, Oh no, no no. You know I can't serve you.
• 57:28
  It's not worth my job. It's not worth losing.
• 57:31
  I was like yeah your job isn't worth shit.
• 57:33
  Like come on man. Can't have any mean but like
• 57:39
  come on you're not gonna get in trouble for serving us.
• 57:43
  Alcohol. Yeah like as if just yeah I mean
• 57:48
  I had one download festival and it was ridiculous.
• 57:52
  So you know, there's a co-op, you can go to Like you can come
• 57:57
  you can get like a little coach from download Festival to a
• 58:00
  co-op up. The road get like surprises.
• 58:05
  It's a big Co-op first, supermarket.
• 58:09
  And I went there with two of my friends and they were bout 22
• 58:14
  girls. They're both early 20s.
• 58:17
  I'm 25 at this point. I've still got the I've got this
• 58:19
  facial hair, right? And I go to this Co-op and I've
• 58:24
  got my ID now. Now I went there to get tobacco
• 58:28
  and general food and supplies fight back at Camp.
• 58:32
  So I said to my friend before went in, I forgot my dear.
• 58:35
  Would you mind getting them grabbing my backe for me but his
• 58:37
  20 quid. Can you sort that?
• 58:38
  She was like yeah, that's fine. So I went did my shopping and
• 58:43
  therefore cancer monster. Oh, I get to tell and this
• 58:50
  jobsworth old woman, Starts having says, I caught sight of
• 58:54
  you. I was like, I have facial hair
• 58:58
  and she wasn't. No, I can't say as I have the 18
• 59:01
  plus wristband for download Festival.
• 59:03
  So no, no, I can't serve you as. Like that's you taking the piss
• 59:07
  out early over 16 and she's like, no, it's Challenge 25.
• 59:11
  It's okay. I'm 25.
• 59:12
  And this is my problem with this rule, right.
• 59:15
  Because the whole point of Challenge, 25 is not to prove if
• 59:18
  the person is 25 or not. It's to put its to sort of leave
• 59:23
  There is no doubt at all. That the person is under 18,
• 59:27
  that's the whole point. So it's like by looking at them
• 59:29
  and saying, do they look 25? Then it's like, okay, there's no
• 59:32
  doubt but like the law is still 18.
• 59:35
  Well, no, it's monster is 16. Yeah, I know, I know, but I'm
• 59:38
  just saying like, that whole 60 years old and said, oh no.
• 59:41
  I can't see it. I can't serve it to you unless
• 59:43
  you have ID. Now, if I'm telling you now one
• 59:46
  that will go further, right? So I give it to my friend.
• 59:49
  I was like, can you just buy this for me?
• 59:51
  And she's like, if you do that, That I will have to call the
• 59:53
  police and I was like, okay, and she just went to another check
• 59:58
  out and just bought it all. And then she was like, can you
• 1:00:02
  you, you can't sell that to us because he hasn't got ID and
• 1:00:06
  this woman just looked at me I'm just like No, it's fine.
• 1:00:11
  I'll see you later. Yeah, but the thing was, I all
• 1:00:13
  I'm going to call the police. I was all right.
• 1:00:15
  Do you know who the pool, please?
• 1:00:16
  I've got my monsters in my bag with my shopping.
• 1:00:19
  I'll see you later. They can find me at download
• 1:00:21
  Festival. I got my back to download.
• 1:00:24
  Simple. Listen, if I've got a legend, if
• 1:00:27
  you've got cause about that as well, like the police it's, you
• 1:00:30
  know, as the police want to turn my turn up, it down over small
• 1:00:33
  and say that I have wasn't a tea that I wasn't 16.
• 1:00:40
  Get you. Lots of them really good low,
• 1:00:42
  not even that. I'm just saying, like, if I was
• 1:00:44
  working for the place and I got a call from the local
• 1:00:46
  supermarket saying, there's a kid here was he doesn't like he
• 1:00:50
  looks underage. I'd just be like, don't waste
• 1:00:52
  our time. I've got ye, you know, a
• 1:00:54
  murderer robberies. All this shit happening don't
• 1:00:58
  waste any little village by download Festival.
• 1:01:01
  So they're going to go over what I'd also like anyone is Going
• 1:01:11
  like, as soon as they're like our energy drink or whatever
• 1:01:13
  like that, no cocks going to Care.
• 1:01:16
  Like there are going to be. Let's be honest, there's gonna
• 1:01:18
  be a very small percentage of people at download Festival
• 1:01:21
  below the age of 16. Yeah.
• 1:01:24
  Like I deleted, the kids can take your kids with you stuff,
• 1:01:28
  you know, going back to the British band should be like
• 1:01:34
  enough. You know to mean yes fucking
• 1:01:38
  shit God. I love those wristbands man.
• 1:01:42
  Oh I see. So I think I've got some of mine
• 1:01:45
  somewhere. Yeah it's a lot.
• 1:01:48
  I put Minotaur I have one on my think.
• 1:01:52
  I remember correctly. I have it on one of my guitars.
• 1:01:56
  I've got like a bunch of them. And God I'm so lame.
• 1:02:01
  So basically I've been having multiple Towers.
• 1:02:04
  That's kind of Class A nice I'm talking about, right?
• 1:02:07
  The lanes part is that I've got like, you know, like you're
• 1:02:09
  strapped, right? Yeah.
• 1:02:11
  And then for whatever reason, with one of the parts of the
• 1:02:15
  strap, the bit that goes on the upper part of the guitar I've
• 1:02:18
  put on your shoelace through that.
• 1:02:22
  I think are the reason. Okay, the reason for this is
• 1:02:25
  that the could sometimes when you buy, excuse me, an acoustic
• 1:02:27
  guitar, it doesn't always have two points to hang a strap off.
• 1:02:33
  So you always have the one on the bottom, but you don't always
• 1:02:35
  necessarily have The one at the top.
• 1:02:36
  Yeah, so my idea and I've done this with some guitars before is
• 1:02:40
  and sometimes it's good for attention reasons as well to
• 1:02:43
  make the strings tighter if you want to get like a capo effect
• 1:02:48
  without a capo and such. Yeah.
• 1:02:50
  But you you I got the shoelaces tied through the top end, and
• 1:02:55
  then with that, I tied the Festival bands around that.
• 1:03:01
  So it looks all pretty and stuff.
• 1:03:03
  And then I've tied that around the bridge of the Tar.
• 1:03:07
  So it hangs off the flame. I don't know.
• 1:03:11
  Sick as having like some more history.
• 1:03:13
  Maybe I don't hate your instrument.
• 1:03:15
  I digged out mum. I've done is.
• 1:03:17
  It's very. It's very like Busker.
• 1:03:20
  Yes. Kind of Yeah, what people hating
• 1:03:26
  on that Vibe? Honestly, people hating anything
• 1:03:28
  man Council climbing, Hatcher don't say that don't will it
• 1:03:36
  people will cancel anyone for anything these days and actually
• 1:03:39
  I might make you our plan on getting cancelled so I can then
• 1:03:41
  come back. I mean, I will say one thing
• 1:03:45
  about cancel culture because I've spoken about it a few times
• 1:03:47
  on the podcast with certain guests.
• 1:03:49
  Yeah, if you do get people cancer, like, I mean, I remember
• 1:03:54
  this, when James Charles was so getting cancelled.
• 1:03:57
  Originally, I remember, I remember care.
• 1:04:01
  So, I did a video on him and he was just mocking him, but it was
• 1:04:03
  kind of funny because it was true, right?
• 1:04:05
  So load your people was unsubscribing from James
• 1:04:09
  Charles. I think like 100k in a week or
• 1:04:11
  Chef, right? Ty West recording my Predator,
• 1:04:15
  right? But when they will cares, I was
• 1:04:17
  looking at his his social blade. And while James Charles was
• 1:04:24
  losing Subs, he was getting tons of use like, oh, yeah, JJ was
• 1:04:31
  like, yeah, you know, man's losing Subs, but he's getting
• 1:04:34
  paid and he's like, and he just starts like listing off all of
• 1:04:38
  these like Beauty glamour YouTubers and been like fuck.
• 1:04:43
  Fuck this one. This one.
• 1:04:46
  Fuck. This one.
• 1:04:46
  Like, give me all the money kind of attitude, it was funny.
• 1:04:51
  Yeah. Like cancel culture is a very
• 1:04:55
  strange then. I feel that people on the
• 1:04:57
  internet have lost, the meaning of the word context, I also do
• 1:05:04
  think cancel cultural works. I think if you for the cancel,
• 1:05:10
  someone Are they going to be Apollo?
• 1:05:13
  Are they going to actually be apologetic for the thing?
• 1:05:15
  You tried to cancel them for or is that going to build a greater
• 1:05:18
  hate and resentment as that thing took everything from them
• 1:05:24
  education is always better. Education is always the way to
• 1:05:28
  go with things and some people, you can't educate.
• 1:05:30
  I understand that. Some people are so set in their
• 1:05:32
  ways or whatever, or their views that you will never educate
• 1:05:34
  them. But I think it's always better
• 1:05:37
  to offer someone the chance to learn from mistake.
• 1:05:41
  And deal with it and move on, and grow as a person.
• 1:05:44
  Now, with certain things, you can't do that.
• 1:05:46
  There are certain things and this is why, I mean, that
• 1:05:48
  context, if someone makes rape jokes, I've because obviously,
• 1:05:52
  this has come up recently. I don't know if you know about
• 1:05:54
  this with Dan Harmon, the the creator of Rick and Morty and
• 1:05:58
  old skin of his come out again, where he is being Castle.
• 1:06:02
  Now, this kit has already come out, originally.
• 1:06:03
  He makes quite a few rape jokes in this kid weighs about
• 1:06:06
  someone. Breaking, someone he has this
• 1:06:08
  has come up previously and he has apologized.
• 1:06:11
  He has made a mistake on it and now it's coming up again.
• 1:06:16
  I'm not even a Rick and Morty fan but like why don't know
• 1:06:19
  where ice? He's like, she should jury will
• 1:06:26
  talk about Michael Jackson earlier.
• 1:06:28
  I personally don't listen to Michael Jackson's music anymore
• 1:06:30
  because I watch Finding Neverland and and I that I might
• 1:06:35
  do, you know what, he's cancelled from my life
• 1:06:37
  personally, but then you have things like Jenna Marbles did
• 1:06:41
  blackface on YouTube many, many years ago.
• 1:06:45
  Has apologized for it multiple times.
• 1:06:48
  Since then, how content in those years has reflected that she is
• 1:06:52
  not that person. He or she is completely left
• 1:06:55
  member states. You never should have done it.
• 1:06:56
  I will say that on the whole brand on the black face thing,
• 1:07:01
  like there's, obviously some historical context for this
• 1:07:04
  because there were like certain groups like the black and white
• 1:07:07
  Minstrel show. People might not know this, but
• 1:07:09
  in the UK, there was a show for many years, I think, a 30 years
• 1:07:12
  it was like an institution on British television.
• 1:07:15
  And and famously, the actors would tour rack.
• 1:07:17
  They toured around the UK until I think at least 90s early 2000s
• 1:07:23
  like long time stage. Yeah.
• 1:07:25
  Even after the show heard had ended but there is historical
• 1:07:30
  significance of it and when you know I don't ever think
• 1:07:33
  blackface is a particularly good idea, but I don't think it's
• 1:07:36
  always necessarily initiated for like racist intentions because I
• 1:07:41
  think there's there's two sides like this.
• 1:07:45
  Engines. If there's two sides to this,
• 1:07:47
  right? There's the side of like, if
• 1:07:48
  you're trying to play a character and that character
• 1:07:53
  happens to be, you know, black or of color, right?
• 1:07:57
  And you're a white actor, then you can argue like, okay, this
• 1:08:02
  is why they've done this, right? Like I can think of many TV
• 1:08:04
  shows where they did that. Like for instance, they're
• 1:08:07
  trying to cancel Little Britain and come fly with me now and
• 1:08:13
  I've got very mixed opinions about it.
• 1:08:15
  Because I feel like maybe I would feel different if I was a
• 1:08:17
  black man. Maybe I would feel differently
• 1:08:19
  watching this and I would would feel offended.
• 1:08:22
  I don't know because I'm not black co-exist, but I feel in
• 1:08:25
  that sense the people that are being racist.
• 1:08:28
  So what if we took by like Marjorie Marjorie doors and fat
• 1:08:32
  fighters? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:35
  Harry is a. I believe she is an Indian lady
• 1:08:40
  in it. If I did wrong on that.
• 1:08:43
  Say I apologize. And the Joe, one of the jokes
• 1:08:46
  with her is the fact that she can't understand what she says
• 1:08:49
  because she has a very thick accent, right?
• 1:08:54
  Look at the comedy of that thing.
• 1:08:56
  Look at that sketch or every time it comes up, we laughing at
• 1:09:01
  the Indian lady. No, no, we're laughing blatant.
• 1:09:06
  Stupid racist. What?
• 1:09:08
  This this is this is kind of the whole point of it as well.
• 1:09:11
  Like I feel like because David walliams and Matt Lucas that
• 1:09:15
  regardless of what you think of them, they are very intelligent
• 1:09:19
  Comedians. And I always felt like with
• 1:09:21
  those sketch. Like some of them did go
• 1:09:23
  overboard. And I think like some of them
• 1:09:25
  could have been axed and it, you know, that was kind of fine kind
• 1:09:28
  of thing. But like, particularly towards
• 1:09:30
  the end of Little Britain, it got really hot.
• 1:09:32
  Yeah, particular apples. And then with that like that
• 1:09:35
  character. Yeah.
• 1:09:36
  Bubbles was a bit crazy. But that character that you just
• 1:09:39
  mentioned, like, I always felt that the whole point of that
• 1:09:41
  character was that, you know, you get people like that in
• 1:09:43
  society. And I feel like, often comedians
• 1:09:47
  normally Source their content from real life situations
• 1:09:50
  people. They've met like, Ricky Gervais
• 1:09:54
  I shall commentary, right? Ricky Gervais based his David
• 1:09:57
  Brent character on an old manager that he'd had or various
• 1:10:01
  managers that he had. And he kind of had this idea in
• 1:10:04
  mind of this particular type of person that he dealt with in the
• 1:10:07
  past and he wanted to like showcase that and I felt like
• 1:10:10
  we're Little Britain and come fly with me a lot of the time.
• 1:10:13
  That was the point. It was never intended to be
• 1:10:15
  racist. I think it was trying to portray
• 1:10:18
  certain characters and stuff. Yeah and come fly with me is an
• 1:10:23
  interesting one. You had em foot immigration
• 1:10:25
  officer? Yeah.
• 1:10:27
  Who is a full-blown racist. Yeah.
• 1:10:31
  But that's the point of the character because it's absurd,
• 1:10:36
  but it's kind of a thing of like, oh, border force or a bit
• 1:10:38
  racist. Okay.
• 1:10:39
  So let's show you someone who works in border control.
• 1:10:42
  That is the most blatant stereotype races you can find.
• 1:10:46
  And it's because what the fuck is this guy?
• 1:10:50
  This is absolutely ridiculous. But he actually He says in the
• 1:10:55
  show if it's not white, sorry if it's white, it's right, okay?
• 1:11:00
  Like no Howard surd stupid. Yeah, that's why it's funny.
• 1:11:07
  See, and that's because we agree with it because we so strongly
• 1:11:10
  disagree with it, I think, and that's kind of how you can be.
• 1:11:14
  Like, it's actually people like this that exists in the world
• 1:11:17
  where I felt like, I was always the point with those shows was
• 1:11:21
  to kind of say, like, call out those people and be like, hey,
• 1:11:23
  yeah. I know you exist and we're
• 1:11:25
  mocking you, we're mocking. Yeah.
• 1:11:26
  You like racist sneaker because this is the joke, but 100 these
• 1:11:31
  this is what I mean about mixed feelings because like I that's
• 1:11:34
  generally how I feel about it but the same time you know,
• 1:11:40
  like, There's there's arguments like, you know, there's not
• 1:11:44
  enough representation in the industry in terms of black
• 1:11:47
  actors and stuff and I agree I definitely there can be more and
• 1:11:51
  there should be more but the you know there's so many elements
• 1:11:54
  that it's like for instance, voice actor, stepping down
• 1:11:59
  because they feel it's racist to play a certain character.
• 1:12:02
  I mean Yeah, I'm the same like I'm kind of caught in many
• 1:12:10
  different Minds about this because I think yeah.
• 1:12:14
  It's like I don't want people to feel offended.
• 1:12:16
  I don't want people to feel like I don't want people to sit and
• 1:12:18
  watch these types of programs and feel like, what I'm a black
• 1:12:21
  person and I feel offended by that because that's horrible.
• 1:12:24
  No one wants to feel that way. I agree that I think it is good
• 1:12:28
  to preface as we as we say, she know, like but it's like one of
• 1:12:31
  the greatest things about being human though is is being able.
• 1:12:34
  To mock oneself and mock each other.
• 1:12:36
  And you like the hundred percent, right?
• 1:12:39
  And I've always felt like the whole point of it is like it's
• 1:12:42
  the difference between being in on the joke and being the butt
• 1:12:44
  of joke. Yes.
• 1:12:46
  You know what it was like when I was at school?
• 1:12:48
  You know, if people were bullying me that to me, I could
• 1:12:54
  recognize a difference. If it was banter, we, you know,
• 1:12:57
  we all kind of joke and we move to each other and then it stops
• 1:13:01
  like you talk about this funny enough in the episode a couple
• 1:13:04
  of Today's episode of the podcast that dropped, I talked
• 1:13:06
  about my experiences getting bullied at school and I kind of
• 1:13:10
  spoke about how people turned. You know, for all is the
• 1:13:13
  i-screamer, it turns blue it turn from people who are
• 1:13:19
  supposed to be my friends. You know, they kept referencing.
• 1:13:22
  This is Banter, this is fun, this is joke, it's not like this
• 1:13:26
  and then it changed from being like you know, everyone
• 1:13:30
  attacking everyone to targeted bullying.
• 1:13:34
  And then I just realized it was always just me.
• 1:13:36
  It stopped being other people use just because I was an easy
• 1:13:38
  target. And then it was only me.
• 1:13:42
  And I was like, okay, I realize even back then, I was like,
• 1:13:45
  yeah, this is bullying. This is what this is.
• 1:13:47
  Yeah. So, I don't know.
• 1:13:48
  Like, I feel like if you're not part of the joke, then that's
• 1:13:53
  kind of the key side of it and I don't know, like I feel like a
• 1:13:58
  lot of these programs. Like, I think I said this I
• 1:14:03
  don't know where I said this, I might have said this in a video,
• 1:14:06
  I don't remember. But I kind of said that, you
• 1:14:07
  know, I feel like if you don't actively promote these these
• 1:14:11
  These Old programs, I think that's fine.
• 1:14:14
  But I don't think eradicating them is a good idea either.
• 1:14:17
  I mean there's certain certain program like the black-and-white
• 1:14:20
  minstrel show. Yeah, I don't then that should
• 1:14:22
  be celebrating. That's just outright racism
• 1:14:25
  right there. I don't care that it has like
• 1:14:27
  show tunes and you know, it's like it shouldn't have existed
• 1:14:30
  in the first place. Actual black facing.
• 1:14:33
  Like I think the jury's out on that one because I think we know
• 1:14:38
  it's Rob. Like it's just like, but in the
• 1:14:40
  opposite has been the case. If you've seen those movies, is
• 1:14:45
  it white chicks? Is that the movie?
• 1:14:47
  I don't agree with that either. I'm sorry.
• 1:14:49
  I don't agree with that either. I don't agree with Robert Downey
• 1:14:53
  jr. Like blowing Tropic Thunder.
• 1:14:56
  Yeah I get that is all comedy and all that kind of stuff but I
• 1:15:01
  just I think it's one of those things that were people know,
• 1:15:04
  you don't do it and people have known that for quite some time
• 1:15:07
  at this point. I think if you're doing it now,
• 1:15:09
  you're asking for trouble like because he's been clearly
• 1:15:12
  established by by black people that they find it offensive.
• 1:15:16
  So don't do it okay. I guess that's kind of the key
• 1:15:19
  then isn't it? I mean if if we all kind of
• 1:15:21
  agree like okay we just move on, we don't do this.
• 1:15:25
  I think we I think we are at that point now but telling
• 1:15:30
  people up on it in the I don't know.
• 1:15:33
  It doesn't offend me personally, so I don't know writing.
• 1:15:36
  You can make that argument if, but because you're not a black
• 1:15:39
  person, that's why you're not offended.
• 1:15:42
  Yeah, yeah, exactly already. Your opinion is already kind of
• 1:15:45
  compromised in, in that same. So, it's traffic.
• 1:15:48
  I said, you know, I acknowledge that racism is a massive.
• 1:15:50
  Massive issue in this world is one one of the leading things we
• 1:15:53
  need to deal with. There are other things as well
• 1:15:56
  that we need to do. Is just I feel just as
• 1:15:58
  importantly and it's like, for instance, there was a funny
• 1:16:01
  funny little while ago, I About. So last year down there
• 1:16:04
  Festival. I posted a picture of all my
• 1:16:06
  food and everything. I've got ready to go by James
• 1:16:09
  post pictures for the download group on Facebook.
• 1:16:11
  Everyone was doing it. You know, there's a weekend
• 1:16:13
  before last. I plan to sell your filter.
• 1:16:16
  Yeah. Well, that kind of shit and I to
• 1:16:18
  cat to a to multi packs of monster.
• 1:16:21
  The Molly Baxter, boxes are full in that thing and my good friend
• 1:16:26
  Joe coming. It as like you're gonna have a
• 1:16:29
  diabetic attack and this Go in this group opened the fuck up at
• 1:16:36
  him and was like, yo, this is so offensive to me as a type 1
• 1:16:41
  diabetic. I think it's disgusting.
• 1:16:43
  You would speak like this. You don't know the struggles.
• 1:16:45
  You have to go through every day and I'll spend High.
• 1:16:48
  He's my best mate and I'm a type 1 diabetic.
• 1:16:50
  I don't need you to be offended for me and you need to figure
• 1:16:53
  out like what it is. This offended you by this.
• 1:16:56
  Because actually it's something that you'll probably within your
• 1:16:59
  control to deal with. This is a comment made.
• 1:17:02
  Talk to me, this wasn't made towards you.
• 1:17:04
  And if you had looked at either the profiles, you would have
• 1:17:08
  seen that. We are mutual friend.
• 1:17:09
  You would have seen loads of acknowledgement and the fact
• 1:17:11
  that I commented underneath before that, so in like, Lolo, I
• 1:17:16
  think we've got low low low, I'm going to keep some sweets with
• 1:17:18
  you or something in case I fall over.
• 1:17:20
  But yeah, like this, don't worry.
• 1:17:21
  I'll have a insulin know this shit.
• 1:17:23
  She just went home and I was like, yo, this was not aimed at
• 1:17:28
  you. This was comedy between two
• 1:17:30
  friends stop. Trying to be offended.
• 1:17:33
  And I had one, as well, recently in a group as to do with autism.
• 1:17:38
  And it's like someone posted as an Autism meme be as as someone
• 1:17:43
  who is on that Spectrum found it quite funny so you really I
• 1:17:45
  thought. Yeah.
• 1:17:47
  And I thought that was weird. What do you have?
• 1:17:49
  You have like Asperger's or something?
• 1:17:51
  And now that was his mm, but very kind of I'm from do it, but
• 1:17:55
  then then, okay. I might, yeah, I thought it was
• 1:17:59
  quite funny. Why can't why not?
• 1:18:01
  It was it's relatable to autistics teaching memes by
• 1:18:05
  Vive. Did I found it?
• 1:18:06
  Kind of run everyone away. And I was just like, you know
• 1:18:08
  what, I can I can have a good chocolate this and this guy was
• 1:18:13
  running around basically can gaming anyone like sending them
• 1:18:17
  hate direct message. Absolutely.
• 1:18:23
  And he was like and I was like Honestly though he was a how
• 1:18:27
  dare you condone this? I was like well I found it funny
• 1:18:29
  and like Someone that suffers from this and I personally found
• 1:18:33
  the humid outside try and take yourself out of it.
• 1:18:35
  You know, we try to see the bright the lighter side of
• 1:18:38
  things and it might just be a bit Beverly.
• 1:18:39
  I was very careful with ourselves.
• 1:18:41
  Like, you know, it might just try taking a look at it from
• 1:18:43
  Another Side and you might see a bit of the humor in it.
• 1:18:45
  I personally found a bit funny considering and but you know I
• 1:18:49
  don't think it's any harm any foul and then this other person
• 1:18:53
  came in that told me that it was awful and I just had to put it
• 1:18:55
  seems like starting okay, stop being offended.
• 1:18:58
  For me, I don't need you to be a Offending for me.
• 1:19:01
  I found it funny as someone who suffers from this, please stop.
• 1:19:06
  I don't need you to be offended for me.
• 1:19:09
  And the amount of people underneath it would just like, I
• 1:19:11
  have so much respect for this. I've so so much respect for this
• 1:19:15
  because like people are going on the internet to be offended for
• 1:19:19
  other people. And if I can take about joke, a
• 1:19:22
  joke about things that I suffer from like, I don't need you to
• 1:19:27
  be offended for me and I feel there is this massive movement.
• 1:19:30
  Now of I'm going to go out there and I'm going to be offended by
• 1:19:34
  someone and I feel very often. We don't hear the people's that.
• 1:19:37
  It actually affects and offends agree with that because of
• 1:19:41
  random people on Twitter that just feel like this issue pisses
• 1:19:44
  them off today. Hello, do you know what I say?
• 1:19:48
  I would just love to hear from the actual people it offends and
• 1:19:52
  with what you've learned to stand, what I like.
• 1:19:56
  Kind of you kind of speak into the point.
• 1:19:58
  I was making before that, like, in terms of the people actually
• 1:20:01
  affects, those are, obviously, the people you want to be
• 1:20:06
  focusing on first, of all, most, right?
• 1:20:08
  And like, I gotta say, like, let's say, like 80% of my black
• 1:20:12
  friends that like, when something like this comes up,
• 1:20:15
  when it when something is like, oh they're going to cancel this
• 1:20:17
  thing. Most of my boyfriend's really
• 1:20:19
  don't give a shit like they're like whatever this isn't
• 1:20:22
  defensive and I always makes me wonder like, well who is the
• 1:20:25
  offended people? People who are the offender
• 1:20:27
  people, like they don't exist. But to me, and I'm just saying,
• 1:20:33
  you know, if this was a statistical thing, right?
• 1:20:37
  When I always look at this and my immediate sphere and all the
• 1:20:39
  people, I know, and all their friends.
• 1:20:41
  Like, it always seems like the small minority are, the people
• 1:20:44
  that are offended because if something is just eternally
• 1:20:47
  event, like everyone is offended by it.
• 1:20:49
  Then you just know. Okay.
• 1:20:50
  Yeah, this is we got to stop this.
• 1:20:52
  They always seems like a small amount if that's Twitter though.
• 1:20:56
  Yeah. I like what you were saying.
• 1:20:57
  I think it's all about the greater majority seems to be
• 1:20:59
  like people mocking themselves. And like, like, for instance, I
• 1:21:03
  suffer with, you know, things like depression and issues like
• 1:21:08
  that, and I often it's like my sick humor, but I look at these,
• 1:21:14
  like, depressive me means and like, Health memes and I just
• 1:21:19
  laughed Darkly like, you know, yellow and like there was loads
• 1:21:22
  of other people, but there's loads of other people who suffer
• 1:21:25
  from Mental Health. Problems who are laughing as
• 1:21:28
  well because it's like a form of therapy to laugh at oneself and
• 1:21:32
  laugher this situation. Oh my God, I fought for this for
• 1:21:36
  so long. Okay, right means are intended.
• 1:21:41
  Not to be taken. Seriously.
• 1:21:43
  Right? I know that.
• 1:21:44
  I know that they go too far. I know that they do at times,
• 1:21:48
  but I have seen people. I have seen some memes that I
• 1:21:52
  would dare, not sure. Yeah, I've seen though to, I'm
• 1:21:55
  like, He seemed quite know me, basic memes that people are
• 1:22:01
  fucking raged over and I'm like the end of the day.
• 1:22:05
  It's and that's kind of that's exactly what this one that I was
• 1:22:08
  talking about. Before this, this this will test
• 1:22:10
  excreting mean that I thought was kind of funny as someone who
• 1:22:13
  suffers from that there was this like I was I was added to and I
• 1:22:16
  was at Uni, right? And it's like What you just said
• 1:22:22
  like there are some memes in there.
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  Like I've not even reacted to that, I've just seen them I'm
• 1:22:27
  like oh my God, I have enough. Eh, I kept my friend with this
• 1:22:30
  but this is the thing, right? I thought about leaving the
• 1:22:33
  group but then I was like, Genoa.
• 1:22:34
  It's already too far like it's trackable.
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  So if I ever got into like, some serious career in the future,
• 1:22:39
  they could be like, where you were part of this group and it's
• 1:22:41
  like, what do I say it's like, yeah but that when they wake up
• 1:22:44
  to track your activity and just be like we didn't go on it very
• 1:22:47
  often, he was just in it but the thing is that's the yeah I don't
• 1:22:49
  really I don't ever post anymore like I I joined it.
• 1:22:52
  I posted a little bit. It was a bit of fun and I just
• 1:22:55
  it becomes an afterthought right?
• 1:22:56
  Every now and again, I'll see because it's grown ridiculously.
• 1:22:59
  It started out with like I don't know, 300 people and now it's
• 1:23:03
  got like thousands of people, it's ridiculous.
• 1:23:05
  And back then it was very not normally.
• 1:23:09
  It was actually pretty good stuff but it was safe.
• 1:23:12
  And then now then something happened certain people just
• 1:23:16
  really push the boundaries, some people got like, banned from
• 1:23:19
  Facebook temporarily because there's some The stuff they post
• 1:23:22
  it. I was like, oh my God man.
• 1:23:24
  Like I Well, if I got myself in T and I'm not even part of it, I
• 1:23:30
  just happened that like you know, it's included.
• 1:23:33
  Yeah. This shouldn't have even a
• 1:23:36
  point. I think the point I want to put
• 1:23:39
  on top like this whole Council culture if also like cap it as
• 1:23:43
  wide view so I don't get hate in the comments whether you love
• 1:23:48
  me. Anyway, you should never get
• 1:23:49
  hate gone by but I probably well, I'll probably offended
• 1:23:51
  someone during this and cancel culture is Needs to be
• 1:23:56
  appropriate to what's going on. If you keep canceling people,
• 1:24:02
  all you are doing is a creating a divide of people who lost
• 1:24:05
  everything they had because of this and you just widen that gap
• 1:24:12
  between the two sides. What we need to invest in is one
• 1:24:15
  looking at things contextually, for instance, pedophiles Yeah,
• 1:24:20
  done May. If you come out if any sort of
• 1:24:22
  pedophilic stuff comes out about someone, you should be
• 1:24:25
  cancelled. If you find out that someone has
• 1:24:27
  sexually assaulted someone, I will sew.
• 1:24:29
  This can't be right? Wait, until they actually get
• 1:24:32
  convicted evidence. Yeah.
• 1:24:34
  Because people start cancelling someone is soon.
• 1:24:37
  Like, for instance, right now, Brendon Urie the Panic at the
• 1:24:40
  Disco singer has been accused by a bunch of people of
• 1:24:42
  potentially, you know, sexually assaulting them or whatever
• 1:24:46
  right now, these allegations don't get me wrong.
• 1:24:49
  He said a lot of stuff on camera and stuff that's inappropriate
• 1:24:53
  but so far, there's no proof that he has done any of this
• 1:24:58
  stuff. It's just witness account, which
• 1:25:00
  lies that. That's it.
• 1:25:03
  That's exactly what I mean, about context and people are
• 1:25:05
  bound to make mistakes in this regard because you're basing on
• 1:25:07
  your own judgment. If you look at the whole Darvey,
• 1:25:09
  vanity situation, which I'm sure you've had something about the
• 1:25:12
  guy from Blood, on the Dance Floor.
• 1:25:14
  He's looking at hundreds of cases of sexual assault.
• 1:25:18
  A lot of them on Miners. So many girls have come forward
• 1:25:22
  and give them their stories with Chris Hansen who used to do, you
• 1:25:25
  know, Dateline. And I have no doubt that he did
• 1:25:29
  it. I've only heard accounts of
• 1:25:31
  other people, I've looked at the situation, contextually, listen
• 1:25:35
  to the, to these young women who have gone through this and it's
• 1:25:38
  King horrific, there's not lying, there's Trends throughout
• 1:25:43
  all that reason, right? However, evident Playing devil's
• 1:25:46
  advocate for a second. Yeah.
• 1:25:49
  Let's say it wasn't true. Let's say there's no way it's
• 1:25:54
  not you'd have to know. I would I would tend to agree
• 1:25:57
  with you in the sense that if you have a certain sheer amount
• 1:26:00
  of accounts and they all have you know similar or the same
• 1:26:04
  theme then yeah chances are it's real, right?
• 1:26:07
  But you could also have a situation where people have set
• 1:26:11
  like not like a conspiracy because I don't want to use that
• 1:26:13
  way. It sounds silly in this context,
• 1:26:14
  but in the sense that people could come together and say
• 1:26:18
  like, we all know, Person we want to cancel this person.
• 1:26:21
  Let's make up this thing and and like all tell a similar story
• 1:26:26
  and then this will get them canceled right?
• 1:26:29
  Because I feel like for certain people think it's the receipts.
• 1:26:33
  That's exactly what it's about. Is the receipts, whether you
• 1:26:35
  bring the receipts they've got. Oh, you mean like from the
• 1:26:38
  actual person I've got again, though, again, in Playing
• 1:26:42
  devil's advocate again, these things can be doctored.
• 1:26:45
  These things can be photoshopped, that's the
• 1:26:46
  problem, that's the thing because they're going through
• 1:26:48
  the process and Google the new Volvo.
• 1:26:50
  The reason the reason that I'm bringing this up, right?
• 1:26:53
  The reason that because I tend to agree with what you're
• 1:26:57
  saying, right? But I like to look at the facts.
• 1:27:00
  I don't like to look at what everyone's saying, I like to
• 1:27:02
  look at the cold hard facts. And as far as I'm concerned,
• 1:27:06
  when someone is in court and, you know, they're charged, and
• 1:27:12
  it's like, you know, it's how much Faith do you have the
• 1:27:16
  judicial system? There, is that as well?
• 1:27:18
  Yeah, like II. Fully accept, they get it wrong.
• 1:27:20
  That's why I know that kind of side of things.
• 1:27:23
  I feel like you need to and this again, I'm going to say you will
• 1:27:27
  make mistakes. I will continue to make this
• 1:27:31
  beat. You have to base it on your own
• 1:27:32
  judgment. You have to go, you have to
• 1:27:35
  analyze. What's being shown in front of
• 1:27:37
  you. You sometimes, you have to go
• 1:27:39
  with your gut reaction on these things.
• 1:27:41
  The trouble is it's wrong. You will think that things are
• 1:27:46
  real when they're not. I thought the James Charles
• 1:27:48
  legit. That's the thing.
• 1:27:51
  The damage is done, right? He was coming, he's proven
• 1:27:54
  innocent, right? Am I right now?
• 1:27:57
  James Charles, that's point that out.
• 1:27:58
  He has fucking Merc distance and so well done to him, right?
• 1:28:01
  But okay, here's the thing, right?
• 1:28:03
  With the way humans are, there's that expression of there's no
• 1:28:05
  smoke without fire, right? So, even though he's been proven
• 1:28:10
  as like am I right in saying he's been proven as like
• 1:28:12
  innocent and stuff? Yeah.
• 1:28:13
  Is that right? Because I don't know about him
• 1:28:15
  that much to be honest. Okay.
• 1:28:17
  And not proven but so Guy, that was in question.
• 1:28:20
  Entirely Westbrook's video came out and said that it was not
• 1:28:23
  legit. He was like interested in James
• 1:28:27
  Charles, he was straight, but he was a huge experiment.
• 1:28:29
  I kind of thing, right. So then recently will come up
• 1:28:32
  again and Jeffree Star was supposedly going to because
• 1:28:35
  Jeffree Star went on keemstar podcast with this recording from
• 1:28:39
  another YouTuber. With this allegation that James
• 1:28:41
  Jones was sexually assault with them.
• 1:28:44
  All came out, tightly Westbrook then says the Jeffree Star and
• 1:28:47
  Shane Dawson, made her make that video.
• 1:28:49
  Ideo originally and that she doesn't think James is a sexual
• 1:28:51
  predator and then we'll say, he has release it, so we don't
• 1:28:57
  know. Okay, we don't need a lesson.
• 1:28:59
  Let's say, let's say, based on what's been presented so far?
• 1:29:02
  It seems like he's probably innocent, right?
• 1:29:05
  So with that logic in mind, it's like, okay.
• 1:29:09
  The person has been proven innocent, but there is still
• 1:29:12
  this large contingent of people that are like, oh, fuck this
• 1:29:14
  person. You know, they were accused,
• 1:29:16
  which means missed interest rates.
• 1:29:17
  Yeah, and that's, that's the danger that I think is true of
• 1:29:20
  cancer culture because you could cancel anyone for anything and
• 1:29:23
  you could just make it up like me, or you could just get
• 1:29:25
  cancelled randomly and it could be total bollocks, but they're,
• 1:29:29
  you know, it's once it's been done, it's like that damage is
• 1:29:32
  there and it's just a tarnish on your name even though it's not
• 1:29:35
  true. It's just yeah, people trying to
• 1:29:37
  attack you and The best way to attack you because it's like oh
• 1:29:40
  let's accuse them of something unacceptable and then watch them
• 1:29:44
  try and like get over that. Have you noticed though, I
• 1:29:48
  really kind of have noticed this that trying to cancel people
• 1:29:52
  doesn't work anymore. Like not really.
• 1:29:54
  You can tell them, they go underground for a month, they're
• 1:29:58
  back, like you're not gaining anything.
• 1:30:01
  I think it depends what they do. Because if you take like are
• 1:30:04
  exactly like or Kelly is. Yeah.
• 1:30:09
  When was the last time I've had Pink music and or something you
• 1:30:13
  know, well besides the fact he's dead, you know, it seems dumb.
• 1:30:19
  I think Julia Maxwell was done, I think she's cancelled now but
• 1:30:23
  like I think it's a tricky one, dude.
• 1:30:28
  It really is because This is the only Street and I think people
• 1:30:34
  need to understand this and him go here at dropping truth bombs
• 1:30:38
  but there isn't any way to stop it.
• 1:30:41
  There isn't any way to fix it. There is no system in the world
• 1:30:47
  that can read minds and see things factually, exactly as
• 1:30:51
  they happen to. Give us a correct result.
• 1:30:54
  Every time it just it's not possible.
• 1:30:57
  People are going to get falsely accused.
• 1:30:59
  People are going to make their accusations that are I'm not
• 1:31:02
  have them taken seriously and it's awful.
• 1:31:05
  But until there is technology, that can literally frame a
• 1:31:10
  fucking moment. That's happened and replay it.
• 1:31:13
  You will never know the truth to every one of these circumstances
• 1:31:16
  and it's horrible thing to realize that you're not.
• 1:31:20
  We're never going to know the full truth on everything even a
• 1:31:23
  Judicial System. You know, as well as I would
• 1:31:27
  say, a majority of the time in, I can't even say that with much
• 1:31:31
  faith. With you know like you think the
• 1:31:33
  judicial system is processing guilty people and me and you
• 1:31:38
  know serving justice but we don't even know to what degree.
• 1:31:42
  Because how do you know that a crime?
• 1:31:45
  That someone's been wrongfully committed and less?
• 1:31:47
  Masses of evidence comes out that they were wrongly
• 1:31:50
  committed. It's just I think we as humans
• 1:31:54
  want so much control and we kinda need to realize that we
• 1:31:58
  can't. There's just this It's awful.
• 1:32:03
  People want to shake the internet to be a better place,
• 1:32:05
  but I'm sorry. You can't.
• 1:32:09
  You can have your good policy in that.
• 1:32:11
  You can have your bad ones, you can't control everything.
• 1:32:16
  You can't make everyone think the same way.
• 1:32:20
  I wish you could I wish we could live in a world where everyone
• 1:32:23
  was fucking tolerant of each other and treat everyone with
• 1:32:27
  respect and everyone had a Level Playing Field but unfortunately,
• 1:32:31
  the way that Human Society has been built up for so many years
• 1:32:35
  as long as we've been on this planet, Mistakes will happen.
• 1:32:39
  There is no fix everything solution for everybody in the
• 1:32:43
  world. And I think people need to
• 1:32:44
  realize that I get. There's, this is my, these
• 1:32:46
  people when I eat sucks, I come from a position of some sort of
• 1:32:50
  privilege to some regard. But well, massive regard
• 1:32:54
  compared to other people around the world, but there isn't the
• 1:32:58
  be-all and end-all fix to everything.
• 1:32:59
  We need to, you need to do what we can that you can't.
• 1:33:04
  Yeah, I just I can't I don't know how else to put it.
• 1:33:08
  They'd I just don't know how else to put it.
• 1:33:10
  I'm sorry you all think that something's going to change to
• 1:33:13
  make the world better. And I think we can always grab
• 1:33:17
  our sweethearts though. I think can all do of it to
• 1:33:19
  improve hundred percent of this is this is kind of what I
• 1:33:22
  believe as far as. Like, what I do is that if I can
• 1:33:26
  try To spread like positivity as much as possible.
• 1:33:32
  And that for instance, one of the things I do when I interview
• 1:33:35
  people who have different opinions to me, as I'll
• 1:33:37
  challenge them like it, for instance, the interview I did
• 1:33:41
  with great that a lie or steal Z.
• 1:33:43
  Like they said some stuff that person that I disagree with and
• 1:33:46
  we challenging each other and we had like a bit of a debate and
• 1:33:48
  stuff, but the difference was, I didn't attack them for their
• 1:33:51
  opinions. I accepted them and their
• 1:33:53
  opinions and I challenged them and, you know, we got a
• 1:33:57
  conversation out of And I think that's the attitude you need to
• 1:33:59
  have. When you meet people, especially
• 1:34:01
  people that hateful and want to spread negativity in the world.
• 1:34:04
  You need to kind of challenge it.
• 1:34:06
  You don't have to attack them because I don't think that
• 1:34:09
  really works if you attack me as a species have lost the ability
• 1:34:13
  to have a conversation. I disagree, I think.
• 1:34:17
  Okay. All right.
• 1:34:18
  Nobody Haley. Bye baby.
• 1:34:19
  On a vine. Yeah.
• 1:34:20
  But like, it's a dying art. Yeah.
• 1:34:24
  But that's why I like his mean. You can agree on everything, but
• 1:34:26
  we can sit here and we can have a discussion about it.
• 1:34:28
  It wouldn't be messing with agree or disagree on.
• 1:34:29
  I don't know, on the previous podcast about the whole twitch
• 1:34:34
  thing. We had said, all right, firstly
• 1:34:37
  I think it's more like this than, like, our views are not
• 1:34:39
  exactly the same on everything. But we sit here and we have
• 1:34:41
  these conversations was just and I don't remember any like
• 1:34:44
  controversial, disagreements, maybe like slight but yeah, but
• 1:34:52
  even so never having even it, like, especially with my
• 1:34:55
  position as the host of the show.
• 1:34:56
  Like I don't really, You it would even be appropriate to be
• 1:35:01
  like that, because I see so many shows and podcasts where people
• 1:35:06
  have like a prevailing opinion. And I try to put out my opinion,
• 1:35:12
  but but also kind of like prevailing opinions that aren't
• 1:35:15
  necessary. Like for instance, just now I
• 1:35:17
  said stuff that I don't agree with, but I wanted to throw out
• 1:35:21
  the opposite side of the argument.
• 1:35:22
  Yeah, that's me right? Yeah.
• 1:35:26
  And just kind of get like a balance Perspective for people
• 1:35:29
  to digest and I think that's really am going to kind of
• 1:35:32
  understand things from all different aspects so that you
• 1:35:35
  have like a really good picture of it and you can understand it
• 1:35:38
  fully and you know make your opinion based on that you know
• 1:35:42
  but I think having statistics and facts really is important.
• 1:35:46
  Use a fact check and get statistics for everything you
• 1:35:49
  know you can't read anything. You see on Facebook or 12?
• 1:35:52
  Yeah go and check it for yourself if you can thanks cam
• 1:35:56
  Google because that probably Can I help you either?
• 1:35:59
  Probably the article that they're sharing in the first
• 1:36:01
  place go and just let anyway, not everyone has time for that
• 1:36:06
  but guys just net. Like the tiniest bit of social
• 1:36:12
  Consciousness from everybody could do wonders, just next
• 1:36:17
  time, you're scrolling through social media.
• 1:36:20
  Just take a second to think before you do things, are you
• 1:36:22
  postings weather and maybe we'll move on to a brighter future,
• 1:36:26
  probably not. But Hey can try and put some
• 1:36:29
  positivity out there. Be nice to each other.
• 1:36:31
  I was going to ask you my standard question of like
• 1:36:34
  upcoming projects and final thoughts but I feel like that's
• 1:36:37
  a very good final thought right there?
• 1:36:39
  Yeah, I'm okay upcoming projects.
• 1:36:45
  What can we expect to see from Calamity Hatcher?
• 1:36:47
  Oh, so we just started Halo night on the channel.
• 1:36:50
  It's a very kind of Indie platformer and it's so
• 1:36:56
  beautiful. It's very good.
• 1:36:58
  Take a static and definitely recommend checking out.
• 1:37:01
  The first episode has gone up on the day of recording this.
• 1:37:05
  Then the next one will be up tomorrow and I will be then into
• 1:37:09
  linking it with Shadow episodes. So there's going to be obviously
• 1:37:12
  some stuff and some of this other stuff.
• 1:37:15
  What else, what else is there? I'm just moving forward with the
• 1:37:19
  content guys. There's get there as a few
• 1:37:21
  things come in. And there's a few video essays
• 1:37:23
  that I wanted to do feel of which I've discussed on last
• 1:37:27
  episode of the podcast and the one before that as well.
• 1:37:29
  So you will say I do, I know YouTubers have different views
• 1:37:33
  on this because some YouTubers just prefer to just purely have
• 1:37:37
  like their branded content and and nothing that's like too
• 1:37:41
  personal but I feel like it's always good to have a little
• 1:37:44
  bit. Like for me I feel like it would
• 1:37:46
  be good to have more of that from you because I think you're
• 1:37:47
  very interesting guy and there's a lot of like I don't know.
• 1:37:53
  I think, I think your fans would find something in that.
• 1:37:58
  There's interesting. Like I would certainly happily.
• 1:38:01
  I know, it's my type of content that I typically produce, but I
• 1:38:04
  just like that, I like seeing the person behind the stuff
• 1:38:07
  because the thing is the reality is, especially if you're gaming
• 1:38:10
  often, that's you in one context that's not you, you know what I
• 1:38:16
  mean. And there's so much more to you
• 1:38:18
  than just I do Sonic stuff. I do this stuff.
• 1:38:21
  Yeah. Completely completely.
• 1:38:23
  Yeah I'm looking forward to seeing more of that personally.
• 1:38:25
  It will be more of that as you know restrictions and now
• 1:38:28
  loosening folks are going to keep coming back.
• 1:38:32
  I was quite happy with the last Vlog and yeah there's gonna be
• 1:38:35
  more of those coming. I'm doing work on the crew.
• 1:38:39
  Cartoons on a few bits. He wants to do it like a day in
• 1:38:42
  the life of crime me Hatcher things with thinking of doing
• 1:38:44
  that which thing we really cool. DJ live streams are coming now.
• 1:38:50
  We've got it sorted. They are probably We going to be
• 1:38:52
  on Twitch because of copyright issues.
• 1:38:58
  Obviously things are now going that way on Twitch, but not
• 1:39:01
  nearly at the rate YouTube's out.
• 1:39:03
  So we'll see how it's going. Yeah, we're moving forward as
• 1:39:08
  the world starts to open up a bit more, particularly here in
• 1:39:12
  the UK, I have got a lot more projects, there is music.
• 1:39:16
  There is so much stuff coming. It's just It's just that were
• 1:39:21
  waiting for a lot of things you know, like I think even though
• 1:39:24
  things have loosened and we can all hang out a lot easier.
• 1:39:27
  Now, I think a lot of people are still scared.
• 1:39:30
  I mean, I'm a, I'm a, I'm technically high-risk freely and
• 1:39:34
  I bet you know that grief us meeting much but I also, you
• 1:39:40
  know what, if I'm on the tube or ever people are wearing a mask,
• 1:39:43
  I will fund get a bit funny about it and know what's this, a
• 1:39:47
  good idea. And you know what I was, I just
• 1:39:49
  stop you. Like everyone to get some public
• 1:39:53
  transport, should be wearing a fucking mask.
• 1:39:55
  That's unacceptable, I know that especially on the tube that but
• 1:40:01
  he's like your most at risk, that's the issue that mask will
• 1:40:06
  help you with that. I understand the other people,
• 1:40:08
  the people that are doing that are not wearing the masks like
• 1:40:14
  You could, you can tell if someone is is because of like a
• 1:40:17
  genuine medical condition, like the people I see this don't give
• 1:40:20
  a fuck or sing. Love people, you or worse.
• 1:40:23
  They wear the mask, but they wear it on their chin.
• 1:40:25
  Lies is pointless. Yeah, like I don't worry about
• 1:40:29
  outside, I'll give it that. Like, if I'm owl in an open
• 1:40:33
  area, I'm not wearing a mask. I'm the same and keep it with
• 1:40:36
  me. If any type of shot, any type of
• 1:40:38
  indoor environment, I will wear the most Outcome.
• 1:40:42
  Yeah, when you can shop and I think I untie do understand that
• 1:40:47
  it's difficult, some people really suffer for it.
• 1:40:49
  But the thing is, this isn't meant to be pleasant for anyone.
• 1:40:54
  Like I don't get out of bed in the morning thinking, I can't
• 1:40:57
  wait to put my mask on today. It is sick.
• 1:41:00
  Fuck a listen to my thing. I hate wearing the mosque.
• 1:41:02
  Like, if anything, you know I'm not as mag but I did quit
• 1:41:06
  smoking earlier this year and whenever my breathing is
• 1:41:10
  restricted, its It's not easy to breathe.
• 1:41:13
  I have issues with my nose. I have done for many years, it's
• 1:41:17
  kind of blocked. So my sense of smell is kind of
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  screwed. So yeah, sometimes I do really
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  struggle with breathing. I still wear it.
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  You know, it's not long, it's not forever.
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  You just have to keep this off. Calm.
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  You know, it's not going to be forever.
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  And like you said, you want to take off the nearest opportunity
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  and you just relax, you know? Yeah, like I sat on the tube for
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  45 minutes with One on. And it's it's not an enjoyable
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  experience. It's not.
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  I'm not saying it is but it's the greater good.
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  Great, it's good. She's the great goodies for the
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  everyone. Sorry I just I try again.
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  There we go, terrible time. I did that.
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  Well, we Circa 2000 and great demos the greater good.
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  Anyway. Okay listen.
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  Thank you so much for being on this episode of the Christian
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  made public. I love having you, you're always
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  welcome. You know that hoping this does
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  workout video, why? Yes, I'm trying to get me to be
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  even so I think we've had a very good discussion and this will
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  make it back for good. Listening experience for
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  everyone, listening on, on Spotify, I believe Google
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  podcasts, anchor, everybody else.
• 1:42:39
  This is the thing, about Apple podcasts.
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  I have stats that suggests that people listen to me, on Apple
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  podcasts but I don't have a link and I can't find myself.
• 1:42:48
  So I don't know what that is but please anchor, if you are
• 1:42:52
  listening, please give me a link because I would love to promote
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  that because it would be like another final achievement to be
• 1:42:59
  able to get on a Podcast. Spotify was.
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  Yeah, I know for me Spotify was like, oh my God.
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  Yeah, I was until manager Spotify now so I could show.
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  But for me, you know, YouTube is certainly the home of the video
• 1:43:14
  podcasts until such a time as Spotify makes them available.
• 1:43:18
  I did hear Rumblings of when Joe Rogan sign that apparently in
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  the future, we can expect video podcast on Spotify, but I don't
• 1:43:24
  know, there's Rumblings but nothing like there's Rumblings
• 1:43:29
  about other Is about Spotify ones, writing to General
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  classmates video game streaming, and stuff like that.
• 1:43:35
  So we're just gonna have to see how that would develops.
• 1:43:37
  I think if anyone was going to do it Spotify is kind of first
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  in the Runnings. I can't think of anyone else
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  that would really would have. Yeah.
• 1:43:46
  Funny to be honest, to do it. Okay, great thing about Spotify,
• 1:43:49
  streaming service gone. They would have to allow songs
• 1:43:53
  on that platform to be used streams that are popular items.
• 1:43:57
  I would have to see that for Ike.
• 1:44:00
  I wanted if, if they could do that that you could do a stream
• 1:44:04
  with Spotify and play any music you want.
• 1:44:07
  I guarantee everyone will be moving.
• 1:44:09
  This data platform, would explode, it'd be like see you
• 1:44:12
  later twitch. We're gonna way to Spotify, you
• 1:44:15
  know what, we're gonna have to come back for another one.
• 1:44:17
  At some point, about the death of twitch because it could be
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  happened in fairly soon. My, I was thinking of Ellen and
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  it's as, as the doctor goes UV, lighting.
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  A cigar you be like this told you good.
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  Yeah. Just sitting there.
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  He sitting on your heel, you see you next time guys.
• 1:44:37
  I'm not gonna over here. Okay, listen, thank you so much.
• 1:44:40
  Thank you to everyone listening and now maybe watching the
• 1:44:44
  Christian we've probably lost hope, we've got many more guests
• 1:44:47
  coming up, many more topics. Like I said, if you like to
• 1:44:51
  appear on the Christian, we've podcast, please drop me an
• 1:44:54
  e-mail, send me a message on my social medias, I would love to
• 1:44:57
  have you. I would love to give you a
• 1:44:59
  platform. To get to know you too kind of
• 1:45:01
  because that's I think the the heart of having guests on this
• 1:45:05
  show is it's not just about promoting your projects but it's
• 1:45:07
  also about, you know, getting to know you especially if you're
• 1:45:11
  someone that doesn't always share yourself as much on your
• 1:45:15
  social media is this is your opportunity to do that and I
• 1:45:17
  will do my best to make you look good for them.
• 1:45:21
  Thank you so much again. Thank you.
• 1:45:24
  And yeah, goodbye. And until next time, I bid you
• 1:45:28
  adieu.