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Almost Famous Adventures: Was Guy Gansert Ever In Love with Joan? · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Almost Famous to OG's Pebble Beach Edition, Bob Guinea Andrew Firestone.
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  Speaker 3: Come on, I mean, I mean everybody else said no.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody else said no. They've been wanting this. The people
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  Speaker 2: have been wanting this for a long time. Clamoring two
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  Speaker 2: of us together.
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  Speaker 3: Those two people wanted it so badly. Our Jessica, like
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  Speaker 3: our wives were like, wouldn't it be great if they
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  Speaker 3: just left us alone?
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  Speaker 2: From we love each other quite a bit, and I
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  Speaker 2: will I will say we we did all right for ourselves, right,
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  Speaker 2: we did, okay, But we are joined today.
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  Speaker 3: It's the Golden after.
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  Speaker 2: Dark series by the way as well, So we got
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of our favorite stars from the Golden Bachelor
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  Speaker 2: here joining us. And I want to say, Guy, I
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  Speaker 2: am so glad to have you here. It's Guy gancert correct, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: want to be sure I get it correct. Guy, great
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  Speaker 2: looking dude comes walking in right away. We're talking about sports.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about sports injuries, which we all have.
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  Speaker 3: Let me tell you what, I got a little intimidated
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  Speaker 3: when the guy walked in. He's like, comes in, he's strapping,
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  Speaker 3: he's yoked, he's working out, the whole thing. I kind
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  Speaker 3: of puffed my chest right away.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't like it.
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  Speaker 3: And look, he'd look nicely. He's dressed. Tell me, I thought,
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  Speaker 3: this is gonna know, well, we want he's gonna tell
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  Speaker 3: me down a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: We want everyone to feel comfortable. So you know, guy
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  Speaker 2: and I are dressed handsomely, and you know it's all right.
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  Speaker 1: But welcome guy, Thank you, thank I'm happy to be here,
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  Speaker 1: and I won't make you feel bad that you know that.
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  Speaker 5: We didn't get him now six years old? Was that
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  Speaker 5: I'm sixty six?
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  Speaker 3: Sixty six? All right, I'm fifty three. Yeah, I'll be
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  Speaker 3: fifty years I still am.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, still your baby, and Andrew, Andrew, what you're almost forty.
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  Speaker 3: I'm in my forties.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in my forties.
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  Speaker 3: Six months.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, for the tail end of them, tail end of them.
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  Speaker 4: But thank you so much for joining us.
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  Speaker 3: You know it's a big weekend.
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  Speaker 4: So this is we believe either the third or.
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  Speaker 2: Fourth annual uh inaugural, I'm sorry, not in augirl.
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  Speaker 4: They'd be the first annual.
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  Speaker 2: Consecutive consecutive golf outing here at Pebble Beach where we
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  Speaker 2: do a big Bachelor reunion and we do a whole
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  Speaker 2: bunch of podcasts, So glad to have you be a
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  Speaker 2: part of it.
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  Speaker 4: It's a it's a family tradition, you know.
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  Speaker 3: We like to keep lovelling.
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  Speaker 5: I love it.
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  Speaker 4: And we're not.
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  Speaker 2: Sure if this is either one of ours third or fourth.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, were I get invited every year.
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  Speaker 2: He's been here seventeen years consecutively. Mine didn't know they
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  Speaker 2: were doing.
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  Speaker 4: The show, not as much.
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  Speaker 3: But this we were talking earlier, like this is such
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  Speaker 3: a great like it opens up the Bachelor world a
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  Speaker 3: little bit to have this other era be part of
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  Speaker 3: it and offer other perspectives. And when you walked in
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  Speaker 3: what you said to me, You're like, oh, two of
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  Speaker 3: the guys that know my experience and know one perspective.
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  Speaker 3: But that's why we're here. We want to we want
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  Speaker 3: to hear it from you and what you know not
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  Speaker 3: only you know on the on the show, in your experience,
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  Speaker 3: but like like kind of life after and all of
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  Speaker 3: these other opportunities here playing golf for the first time,
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  Speaker 3: yeah a long.
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  Speaker 4: Time I am.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, let's start at the top, like how did
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  Speaker 2: the whole opportunity even come to play for you?
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  Speaker 4: Like, how did you end up on the show? In
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  Speaker 4: the first place.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I had a a woman reach out to me and
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  Speaker 1: we were talking and she said, you know, I I
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  Speaker 1: think you'd be a really good on a reality TV
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  Speaker 1: show called a Golden Bachelorette.
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  Speaker 5: And I said, I have no idea what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 4: So you've never seen the show?
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  Speaker 1: You never even heard of I've never seen. I knew
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  Speaker 1: there was The Bachelor and the Bachelorette. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: see some of the commercials, but I knew nothing more
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  Speaker 1: than you get a rose that's good, you don't get
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  Speaker 1: a rose that's bad. And then at the end the
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  Speaker 1: young kids hook up.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know that's all I knew about the show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so somebody. So I knew nothing about it. And
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  Speaker 1: so I then reached out to my to my sisters.
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  Speaker 1: I say, have you guys ever heard of a show
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  Speaker 1: called Golden Bachelor Bachelorette? And they go, oh my god, yes,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And I said, well, somebody wants me to
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  Speaker 1: be on this thing, or I should apply for it.
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  Speaker 1: They go, you got to do it. And my nephew
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  Speaker 1: is about forty, said, uncle guy. He goes, go for it,
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  Speaker 1: he goes, he.
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  Speaker 5: Goes, he goes. Even if you don't do it. He goes,
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  Speaker 5: you can always put in your back pocket.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, I send in the you know, the
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  Speaker 1: ask five five quessure, you know, told me send five
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  Speaker 1: pictures and five other things, and then I got the questionnaire.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even remember a single question. I remember one
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  Speaker 1: question on the questionnaire.
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  Speaker 5: The rest of it. I just filled that as fast
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  Speaker 5: as I could, because I was it the std question. No,
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  Speaker 5: it wasn't that one. It was.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, they did ask me about that.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 1: The only I remember was like they said, do you
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  Speaker 1: have a Hollywood crush?
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  Speaker 5: And that's the only one I remember.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, and do you Yeah, what'd you put Diane Lane?
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  Speaker 3: Diane Lane?
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  Speaker 4: Choice?
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  Speaker 3: Good pull on that one. You're listening to this.
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  Speaker 5: I'm still out here.
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  Speaker 2: This is good, you know, because this was going to
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  Speaker 2: be one of my questions to you is who and
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  Speaker 2: you know, who's your Hollywood crush?
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  Speaker 4: You could find her today?
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  Speaker 5: That that was it.
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  Speaker 1: I just always she's a terrific act actor, actress, and
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  Speaker 1: she just has this this quality of class to her
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  Speaker 1: that you know, I've always admired. And so she's about
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  Speaker 1: my age, she's like fifty nine sixty or.
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  Speaker 5: Something like that.
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  Speaker 1: I know, she got divorce from you know, one of.
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  Speaker 5: The Brolin brothers or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Josh anyway, Josh Brown, Yes, because yeah, yeah, so anyway,
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  Speaker 1: So that's how so I I you know, I went
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  Speaker 1: through the application, to be honest with you, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: think i'd be chosen. I just but I just kept
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  Speaker 1: going through and one zoom interview after another after another,
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  Speaker 1: and and you know, I still wouldn't even sure I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to, like really go through with it, but I
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  Speaker 1: was just going through the process. And a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things happened in my life over the last the six
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  Speaker 1: months leading up to the show that were pretty significant
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  Speaker 1: milestones for me in my life to be able to
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  Speaker 1: move forward after my my divorce. And I finally said,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to do this. And then
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  Speaker 1: right after that, Jackie called and said, hey, You've been selected,
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  Speaker 1: and I said, yay me.
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  Speaker 3: But so you but you were your career working at
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  Speaker 3: the time that you that that this whole thing interrupted
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  Speaker 3: your life, but you felt like you were in the
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  Speaker 3: right place to do something like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting enough, this is one of the milestones I
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  Speaker 1: was talking about. So one of them was is in
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  Speaker 1: April I did this two and a half week. Unexpect
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  Speaker 1: the road trip, my oldest daughter was running the Boston Marathon.
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  Speaker 1: I flew back to Boston from the West Coast, spent
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  Speaker 1: four days with you know, my daughter McKenzie and my
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  Speaker 1: grandson he Don, and then she ran the marathon. And
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  Speaker 1: from there I have another daughter that had gone to
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  Speaker 1: Oxford University together NBA and was living in London. So
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  Speaker 1: I just said, you know what, I'm going to get
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  Speaker 1: on the plane. I flew to London, spent four days
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  Speaker 1: with her, did some great stuff. I went out to Liverpool,
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  Speaker 1: home of the Fab four, and I'm a beatlemaniac and
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  Speaker 1: self professor Beetle make. I had one of the best
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  Speaker 1: days I've ever had by myself, you know. And then
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  Speaker 1: from there I went to Atlanta and visited my grandson
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  Speaker 1: some more, went to Dallas Fort Worth, visited you know,
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  Speaker 1: family and friends where I grew up, and then went
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  Speaker 1: to San Diego when my sons lives. I got back
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  Speaker 1: and I just you know, it's like two and a
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  Speaker 1: half weeks on expended. I said, you know what, I'm
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  Speaker 1: about to turn sixty six. I've got thirty five years
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  Speaker 1: working in the same er said.
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  Speaker 3: Right, the same the same hospital.
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  Speaker 1: The same hospital, same ar was like, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: mean I had done everything I wanted to do in
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  Speaker 1: my career. I was the medical director, chairman, I was
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  Speaker 1: the chief of staff of the hospital. So I did
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  Speaker 1: it straight of work. But then I was also mostly
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  Speaker 1: I was just as we called the pit doc, you
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  Speaker 1: know we you know, the years working in the pit.
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  Speaker 1: And I had done that, and I just said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's time. I wanted to do what I want
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  Speaker 1: when I want. And so in April, long before I
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  Speaker 1: heard from the show, I decided to retire.
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  Speaker 5: And I things, it's just I knew.
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  Speaker 1: People said you're going to know when you know, and
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  Speaker 1: that's what happened. I just said, this feels right. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to go out on top. I didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: be a doc that just stays.
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  Speaker 5: Around a little too long. It's a little bit, you know,
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  Speaker 5: just to ask leave it like.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't want them to have that uncomfortable conversation.
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  Speaker 5: And I even told him I So I went and
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  Speaker 5: I and I and I decided to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, and you know, the show calls and so
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  Speaker 1: and I had even asked, you know, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: people I work, I said, hey, is there any way
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  Speaker 1: I can get like, you know, June and July off
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  Speaker 1: And they said, uh in the ear, no, I said,
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  Speaker 1: I said, even for a guy like me, I've been
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  Speaker 1: doing this for thirty high started the group for Christ's sake,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 5: Anyway, So it was.
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  Speaker 1: Almost like it was it was wonderful timing for me
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  Speaker 1: to do it. So when I won the show, it
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  Speaker 1: was very easy. I didn't have to worry about coming
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  Speaker 1: back to work or doing anything like that. I worked
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  Speaker 1: my last shift about a week before I went on
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  Speaker 1: the show.
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, kidding, Yeah, Wow, perfect timing.
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  Speaker 3: It seems like the people that we talked to that
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  Speaker 3: I've talked to over the years that have had a
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  Speaker 3: good experience kind of life, had had kind of shuffled
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  Speaker 3: the deck in such a way that they were ready
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  Speaker 3: for something like this that the show wasn't interruptive to
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  Speaker 3: their life, but rather it was additive to it, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And so now like so afterwards, like in hindsight, do
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  Speaker 3: you think it was additive to your life?
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 3: And even though it didn't maybe turn out the no.
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  Speaker 5: It really was.
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  Speaker 1: And I you know, I talk about you know this
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  Speaker 1: quote transformational journey that I went through, and it was
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  Speaker 1: all these things that kind of led up to that
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  Speaker 1: this show was a culmination of all these significant milestones
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  Speaker 1: in my life that allowed me to move forward. I
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  Speaker 1: went on it, and then it just allowed me to
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  Speaker 1: open up. It gave me time to be very introspective.
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  Speaker 1: My daughter sent me a Mulskin journal and said that
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  Speaker 1: maybe you should journal your your your.
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  Speaker 5: Time on there. I did.
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  Speaker 1: I started on the plane on the way down to
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  Speaker 1: LA and I journaled every day for forty five days.
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  Speaker 1: I went through an entire book, went to a second
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  Speaker 1: one days they would like the one on one dates
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  Speaker 1: and the hometowns. I would write twenty pages.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, just I mean it's.
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  Speaker 6: Like chronically everything that happened, then chronically what was happening,
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  Speaker 6: but also spending time how is feeling describing you know,
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  Speaker 6: my relationships with some of the other you know, you
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  Speaker 6: know guys on the show, you know friendships I had developed,
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  Speaker 6: and I just used it as a way to kind of,
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  Speaker 6: you know, go back and and think about my life
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  Speaker 6: and think about things and where I wanted to go.
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  Speaker 5: And so that was very therapeutic for me.
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  Speaker 1: So when you ask that the it enhanced it, and
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  Speaker 1: I will say that, you know, people say you know, Gosha,
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  Speaker 1: it was really hard for you.
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  Speaker 5: At the end, I said, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, I didn't win, but I really won, Yeah, because
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  Speaker 1: I got what I needed out of the show.
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  Speaker 5: And I I think, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I thank the show Vaccination for allowing being part of that.
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  Speaker 1: I think Joan for allowing me to get to this
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  Speaker 1: point and be able to feel like I can you know,
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  Speaker 1: that could truly love again, you know, and like you
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  Speaker 1: and be I opened up and I didn't. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: think that was really Before I went down there, I said,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't possible. And even when I was down there,
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  Speaker 1: most of the time I put up barriers. I was
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  Speaker 1: very guard I said, this is silliness, as I we
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  Speaker 1: tell it. I said, I said, this is fantasy land,
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  Speaker 1: this is not reality. But you know, it allowed me
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  Speaker 1: to think and I eventually just let myself. I said,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, just go with it, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: don't try to manipulate anything. Just go with your feelings
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  Speaker 1: and emotions. And you guys have been there. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: it's an interesting phenomenon that you go through. And and
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because I had watched some of you know,
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  Speaker 1: I went back and watched some of these shows.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, oh my god, this is crazy. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I can't possibly do this.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think you could have gone back far enough to.
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  Speaker 3: Nom x Machine because then yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Black and white or like you know, a protector you
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  Speaker 2: can twist.
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  Speaker 1: You're you're you got you guys. I liked this real Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'll just say this real quick. Was was I didn't
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  Speaker 1: even know the show was on ABC. I got home,
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  Speaker 1: somebody said on September fifteenth, when they mailed announcement, they said.
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  Speaker 5: I just saw you on the ABC. I said why.
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  Speaker 1: They said, well, you're on Going Best and I said,
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  Speaker 1: that's on ABC. Because when I watched it, I just
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  Speaker 1: rented Hulu, right and I didn't associate it with anything.
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  Speaker 5: And so I was like, they go, I go, oh
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  Speaker 5: my god.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why I realized, Okay, this thing's on prime
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  Speaker 1: time on ABC at eight o'clock. I said, Okay, this
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  Speaker 1: is going to be an interesting weeks or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Andrew and I were talking earlier. You know.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things that's sort of been referenced a
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  Speaker 2: lot is that the Golden Bat brought the whole franchise
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  Speaker 2: back to a little bit more of a I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to say kinder, gentler, because that just seems ridiculous,
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  Speaker 2: but just kind of like what it was supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be intended for, right, which was hopefully these people find love.
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  Speaker 4: But hey, the guys don't have to hate each other.
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  Speaker 4: They can get along.
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  Speaker 2: And so I was on the Bachelrette before I was
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  Speaker 2: on the Bachelor, much like you were on the Bachelorette.
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  Speaker 3: I loved the.
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  Speaker 2: Friendships I made from that experience. And then you know,
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  Speaker 2: and then you get opened up to all these other people.
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  Speaker 4: And Andrew and I.
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  Speaker 2: Andrew was the first Bachelor that I met, you know,
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  Speaker 2: before I even became the Bachelor, and I was like, oh.
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  Speaker 4: My god, he's so nice.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, it's like you start to like connect
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  Speaker 2: all the dots and realize that I mean, the cast
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  Speaker 2: thing is really the biggest part of this show from
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  Speaker 2: the standpoint of who they picked to be the lead
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  Speaker 2: as well as who they picked to be the people
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  Speaker 2: that are, you know, there to meet this individual and
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  Speaker 2: meet each other. But good for you, Good for you
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  Speaker 2: finding that positive that silver lining.
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  Speaker 4: Turning it table was good.
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  Speaker 1: I cannot thank them enough. It's just it's it was
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  Speaker 1: life changing for me. That sounds kind of crazy, but
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  Speaker 1: it just wasn't the show, but that was a culmination.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't allow me to take it to that whole
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  Speaker 1: another level of where I you know, where I was
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  Speaker 1: in my life, you know, and uh, yeah, I can't.
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  Speaker 5: I can't be more happy. I had heard it on
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  Speaker 5: the way down.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, you know you all there's a bunch of you
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  Speaker 4: on the same plane.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You get off the plane and everybody kind of surrounds you.
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  Speaker 3: Oh are you guys?
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  Speaker 4: Guys?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, how's that feel?
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  Speaker 2: Is that something? I mean, you don't you don't get
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  Speaker 2: that probably a lot in the e r as much
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  Speaker 2: as you would have wanted to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you mean you mean the the attention from.
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  Speaker 4: The Yeah, a lot of attention from this, you know.
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  Speaker 5: I it really hit me.
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  Speaker 1: I went down to Las Vegas, uh and joined my
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  Speaker 1: I got my son the flying from San Diego and
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  Speaker 1: we went to the Sphere to see the Eagles.
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm in this.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: We're in the you know, the cause Cosm, Cosmopolitan, and
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: there's you know, there's hordes of people.
• 13:44
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: I couldn't go. I was just blown away. I couldn't
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: go twenty five feet without somebody stopping me.
• 13:50
  Speaker 5: And they were going guy guy, your guy, You're like,
• 13:53
  Speaker 5: oh my god, you know, you.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: Know, I said, holy Schwalley. I said, there's a lot
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: of people who like this stuff and watch it, but
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't sense it because I, you know,
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: I don't Reno. And so it's you know, it's a
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: very small community. Everybody in Reno. It's like on fire
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: because you know, I'm you know, I'm representing you know,
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: you know, my hometown, you know which I you know,
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: I love. And it was great, you know, and and
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: very very complimentary that every said, oh my god, you
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: you you you projected yourself so well and you've represented
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: Reno so well.
• 14:21
  Speaker 5: And yeah, and I I you know, that's that's great.
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: I feel that right. It makes you feel very good.
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: Kids proud.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: The kids, Yeah, you know, I still wonder they I
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: think they were a little hesitant because they you know,
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: mostly they just didn't want to see me get hurt, right,
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: you know. And they also, you know, we're afraid of
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: you know, social media. And I said, I said, listen,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: I said, I got, I got through a divorce of
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: thirty four years.
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: I can handle anything.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it is tough, but they were My
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: kids have been so supportive.
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: They were. They've been so good about the whole thing.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: Because you know, me know, they're they're kind of thrust
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: into thet I'm like a little bit that they didn't
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: expect yer exactly, you know, and they're on the hometown
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: visit and they're they're on TV and all their people
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: all over the country. I mean, you know, are you
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: know reaching out to them and they're like, I don't
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: know if I really signed up for this, but they've
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: been so good and they've been so gracious I And
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: that's one of the other things that happened in my
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: transformational journey is was there's like five things, but the
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: third one is is I developed an even better relationship
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: with my children.
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: That's awesome.
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, never too late to do that either, That's right.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: I got a five year old, six year old and
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: the three year old.
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Savor the moments.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'm savoring this moment right now that I'm
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: not having to, you know.
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: Break up a fight.
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: I feel pretty good about it.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, So, have you been around
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: Joan much or Joan and Chalk much since the show's
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: finale and and you will be this weekend.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, have you have you thought about that? And
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: how how do you feel about all that?
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, to answer your question, Uh, I've spoken with Chalk
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: several times. It's almost like it seemed like we talked
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: like once a week, not for a lot, and you know,
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: and it's more of just like, hey, how are you doing?
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: Is everything going okay?
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Because Chuck and I were roommates, so it was it
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: was Chalk, it was it was Gary, it was Charles
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: l and Michael and and so we spent a lot
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: of time together, you know.
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: And so I spoke with Chuck.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: I saw Joan obviously at the finale, but that's you know,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: on the stage, and you ever long don't have a
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: lot of time to really talk. I saw her at
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: the the after party, but probably only got to talk
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: to her for like, you know, a minute, you know,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: so not much so, but I'm very comfortable seeing her.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: I you know, I thank her, you know, because she
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: she allowed me to move forward, and you know, and
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, how can I be upset about that? And
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: obviously at the end of the show, I mean the
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: emotions you saw at the end, those are really emotions.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I tell people, I said, I say, I can't I
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: can't fake this stuff, I said, But I said, I said,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: you know, they said, well, did you really fall in love?
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: I said, I say, at the moment, yes, I said,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: but mostly as I look back on it, I fell
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: in love with the idea falling in love.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: And that's you know, that's a win too. It is
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: absolutely a win.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: And that again that's allowed me to like know that
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: I can feel this way again because I didn't think
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: I could. I thought, this is you know, I'm just
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: going to you know, get a old shrivel up and
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: you know, and you know be watching, you know, with
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: a little fortune every night, you know, sparked.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Or like a like an interest or a spark and
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: like a reinvigoration, which I think there's so many good outcomes.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: It can happen, yes in the show, whether it's a
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: happily ever happily ever after, or it's an inspiration or
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: it's like a confidence.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: So interesting I still remember.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: And so when we first won on the show, we'd
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: gotten like a little opening packet and there was a
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: letter from Claire and Bennett and you know, I read
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: through this thing and I read through it. At the
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: end too, I was like, oh my gosh, you know,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: this is this is so insightful. And I remember they
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: wrote you will get out of this experience which you
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: put into the experience, And it was when I've read
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: at the beginning didn't really.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: Have any impact on me at the time.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: At the end I read it and I said, I said,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I'm so glad because I did. I
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: got out of it because I put everything I had
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: into it. By the end, I just opened myself up
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: and I just let my emotions just run. And so
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I just found that, you know, very insightful. As I
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: went back and reread it a second time, and I
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: even went up to him, I said, you, guys, I said,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: this is this is beautifully written in their life and
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: don't give us too much credit.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: Card.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: Well, thank you for joining us.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: It's really great to get to meet you and great
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: to have you on the show. And I liked, you know,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: at the top of the show, a lot of people,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: well no one would have seen this obviously, but Gary,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: you and Gary hanging out. Gary's like, is this where
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: we go? You know, he's like looking out for you.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: And you know, I love the friendships that come from
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: so like.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: That to incredible friendships for life and I know you
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: guys probably had the same thing. And you know, and
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: you get closer to closer some individus more than the others,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: just you know, because there's a bond. And like Gary
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: and I, it was quite interesting. We met waiting to go,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: you know, waiting in the outside the limousines, waiting to
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: meet Joan and I met him there and we bonded immediately.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and have just it's.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: It's you know, he's my brother from another mother.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: So it sounds like you want on so many levels.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: Thanks you so much. Welcome, we'll see if you can.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Welcome the weekend. Welcome to the week I'm so ready,
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: I am so ready.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Well, thank you man, thanks for joining us.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: We appreciate it.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Thanks for being almost famous to O G's and good
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: luck tomorrow with your new clubs.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: We'll see what happens. I guarantee you'll still beat me.