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Ep. 58 "Saint or Sinner" with Angela Lewis · We Talk Back

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Speaker 1: We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who
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Speaker 1: talked back. What's up, y'all, Welcome to a new episode
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Speaker 1: that we talked back. It's your girl a j Hey, y'all,
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Speaker 1: Li's me Tim Band. I love y'all so much. How
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Speaker 1: y'all doing you on that fake as baby boy? That's
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Speaker 1: my southern girl voice. When I used when I go
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Speaker 1: to like Europe and stuff, they love that ship. I
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Speaker 1: was like, Hey, y'all, how y'all doing the news? Let
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Speaker 1: me in the color free. I was your weekend, y'all.
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Speaker 1: What did I do this weekend? I feel like, Oh,
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Speaker 1: I went to the Anti Fast. It was Monica Eskate
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Speaker 1: here is genuine. Uh, you ain't telling me about Agetown.
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Speaker 1: I had forgot that, me and my sister guy tickets
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Speaker 1: and she was like, oh, I'm on my way, and
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, shoot, let me clean what you
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Speaker 1: didn't mention the concert? You didn't mention who was gonna
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Speaker 1: be there? Yeah? And then who else was on one
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Speaker 1: twelve Peaches and Creek Bitch. I was in there getting it.
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Speaker 1: My throat was sore by the time I left from
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Speaker 1: trying to sing with Kenny Birds too. That's all he
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Speaker 1: was doing a singer and dancing and singing and drinking.
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Speaker 1: I had fun, but it was definitely auntie fist. Was it?
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Speaker 1: A lot of single aunties in there. It was a
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Speaker 1: lot of single aunties and a lot of aunties with
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Speaker 1: the nigger. Yes, it was a good old Where was it?
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Speaker 1: It was at the Spectrum Arena. They packed that bitch too.
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Speaker 1: I wish I was there. Who all was it again?
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Speaker 1: It was Monica Escate one twelve, Ace Town in Jinuine.
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Speaker 1: I'm mad I missed that Januine? Still fine? You think?
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Speaker 1: Genuinely fine? He liked n like nine five. He's still
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Speaker 1: ninety four fine though, Yeah, ninety four like skin nigga fund. Yeah. Pretty.
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Speaker 1: He's a good look at man, and he's like he
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Speaker 1: seemed like he enjoyed that attention to my boy said,
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Speaker 1: he not even thinking no more. He got during escape
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Speaker 1: that waver there people set your hands down. He want
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Speaker 1: to make sure y'all see him. Shame, but that was
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Speaker 1: that was a good time. What about you? I ain't
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Speaker 1: too much hung out? What a friend? Uh, just dinner
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Speaker 1: that type of stuff, regular courting, okay, just in case
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Speaker 1: the nigga is interested in knowing. Yeah, that's all chilling
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Speaker 1: out a little bit girl? Why uh? The guy who
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Speaker 1: I was out with gets uh email? Well a text
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Speaker 1: message first, because he posted his food and I even
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Speaker 1: hid my pocketbook in the in the he's something the
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Speaker 1: only person say pocketbook. I even hid my purse in
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Speaker 1: the right because that's where pocketbooks be. We was at
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Speaker 1: stay girl, I had got like some shrimp and scallop ship.
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Speaker 1: Oh a big fucking bowl of pasta? Yeah, what is that?
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Speaker 1: Why would y'all be selling that? So I did not
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Speaker 1: enjoy my food for real. But the naga posted the
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Speaker 1: food on his Instagram story and then he gets a
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Speaker 1: text message that said, um, can I have your email address, sir?
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Speaker 1: So he sends the email address to this person via text,
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Speaker 1: and about two minutes later, the nigga gets a fucking
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Speaker 1: invoice to paint this bitch house. She was like, oh
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Speaker 1: you're buying sho Okay, Well I told you see my
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Speaker 1: living room wall? Bitch? You go to invoice? How do
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Speaker 1: y'all ask for money? Because I feel like she she
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Speaker 1: was a nice try. She must have been already asking
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Speaker 1: for that money for a long time or something to
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Speaker 1: be like, so see me, what's your email? That's a
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Speaker 1: lot of entitlement. Bit because that is not a nice
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Speaker 1: way to finesse. And they got the check, she didn't
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Speaker 1: get it. I would never do no ship like that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: because you gotta be nice and you can't talk to
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Speaker 1: me no more of you send that money right. Look,
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Speaker 1: I was, I was on her side though. I was like, yeah, bitch,
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Speaker 1: but that is not how you get money at a man.
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Speaker 1: That's real rude, that's all that's like. You know, I've
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Speaker 1: seen people. I think somebody under this to me before.
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Speaker 1: Just send me a cash at request. No, you need
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Speaker 1: to pick up the phone and call me and ask
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Speaker 1: me for my fucking money, just to me sending me
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Speaker 1: no God to have cash request. Yeah, women do not
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Speaker 1: aggressively asking for money. I'm very sweet. Hey baby, how's
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Speaker 1: your day going. Did you eat yet? Okay, honey, did
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Speaker 1: you eat? Yeah? Let me hang up your coach, coach,
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Speaker 1: your cote, nigga and what else? What else? I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: do it all your pockets and I'll be nice and
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Speaker 1: I don't rub your shoulders and massage your temples and
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Speaker 1: ship make you a drink you want to drink? Would
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Speaker 1: you like a beverage? And then I'm a fun ah bang,
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Speaker 1: But you fucking actress, Okay, I remember I told you
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Speaker 1: I had the thing. That thing that I wanted to
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Speaker 1: do is in two weeks, and can you give me
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Speaker 1: four thousand dollars for it? Please? Goddamn this bitch was
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Speaker 1: only asked for eight hundred dollars. I told her. I
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Speaker 1: told her to test. I told him to test. Text
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Speaker 1: her back and say, do I live there? Is that
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Speaker 1: my house? Yeah? Did he say that? Because she like you,
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Speaker 1: you'd be eating this pussy over here exactly. He said
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Speaker 1: he's never been to her house before. Well, shame she
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Speaker 1: didn't ask that for no reason. He made her feel
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Speaker 1: like she could ask for that. That's how I feel,
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Speaker 1: And I feel like a woman ain't gonna ask a
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Speaker 1: man for money in that way, a man that they respect.
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Speaker 1: It's like, let me send this to this sympass and
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Speaker 1: against do and he ain't please nigga exactly, Because that's
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Speaker 1: how when I'm ready to get rid of a nigga,
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Speaker 1: that's what I do. I'll ask for some outlandish amount
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Speaker 1: of money and either you can come through or you ain't.
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Speaker 1: And it's a win either way. Either you're gonna disappear
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Speaker 1: or I'm gonna get the money right, but I need
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Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars by tomorrow. NULD be like what my
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Speaker 1: enemies are after me watched I watched it. Now you
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Speaker 1: said I'll be watching TV. I watched that ship. I
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Speaker 1: could not believe it. And I need you to take
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Speaker 1: a credit card out for twenty five thou dollars right now, baby,
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Speaker 1: and another one. And you see the last girl how
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Speaker 1: she finessed his ass back. Don't clothes, y'all, if y'all,
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Speaker 1: if y'all haven't seen yes Netflix, yo, the last bit
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Speaker 1: got all his naked designer clothes and started. She said
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Speaker 1: she's still selling it up until the day of recording,
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Speaker 1: still selling that on eBay could and she was hitting
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Speaker 1: He was hitting her up mad that she had finessed him.
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Speaker 1: You can't get man, that's a psychopath, sociopath, which was
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Speaker 1: going between being nice and being mean back and forth
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Speaker 1: about them damn clothes. How about finessed these bitches without
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Speaker 1: my drip home. Yeah, we got my whole uniform over there, bitch, dog,
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Speaker 1: I know a bit you got played by nigga like that,
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Speaker 1: Like when she met the nigga. He obviously was finessing
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Speaker 1: somebody else to take care of her, and when her
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Speaker 1: time was up, that nigga started running a muck up
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Speaker 1: on her checking account. And that's probably to take care
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Speaker 1: of the next woman. Like, what is the fucking thought
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Speaker 1: process of those type of people, Like you're just a
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Speaker 1: whole financial predator out here. That's scary. Yeah, that's scary,
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Speaker 1: but you ain't gonna get me. Not getting me. I
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Speaker 1: got two things for you, baby, I'll make it three. Encouragement,
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Speaker 1: pussy and jokes. That's it. Make you laugh. I've encourage
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Speaker 1: you to go, you give it your best shot. And
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Speaker 1: then I thought it, I'm confused. How the fuck if
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Speaker 1: you never yourself went and took out these type of
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Speaker 1: credit cards, you never took these type of loans. Obviously
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Speaker 1: you can't afford this ship. What kind of dick does
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Speaker 1: this nigga have? And I'm looking at the women, I'm like,
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Speaker 1: I like judging them basically, Oh, she ain't that cute,
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Speaker 1: Maybe she has low self esteem. I was doing that,
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Speaker 1: but no. Still nobody deserves to get finest like that.
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Speaker 1: But I'm just trying to figure out, because you know,
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Speaker 1: what should happens to you, you you always got to look within.
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Speaker 1: But what is it about me? That allowed myself to
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Speaker 1: be finessed by this new right. But it was in
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Speaker 1: love and he made himself look like he was he
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Speaker 1: had it like that, but still a millionaire, a billionaire
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Speaker 1: that was flying private jets I built. The weirdest part
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Speaker 1: was how his fucking baby mama was someone that testified
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Speaker 1: against him before and didn't mention it to the girl.
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Speaker 1: And now you were part of the finesse. She's not
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Speaker 1: finesse that they got the whole kid guard your puss,
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Speaker 1: his ladies, they are his swindling boys at about three
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Speaker 1: million point periods. Another tender swindler, Mary J. Blige, husband
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Speaker 1: can do Isaacs m so y'all. Mary was on the
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Speaker 1: box Andre Martinez show recently and she was talking about how, um,
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Speaker 1: you know, she filed for divorce from her ex in
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Speaker 1: after she caught him basically taking care of another bit
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Speaker 1: off her money and she was ordered to pay alimony
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Speaker 1: for these two years while he were going you um,
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Speaker 1: you know, the divorce whatever situation. How much was thirty
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars a month? Bitch Mary said she had to
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Speaker 1: go back on tour to pay that ship. How she
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Speaker 1: didn't have money for herself, like she felt like she
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Speaker 1: lost her soul in their relationship racks a month. That's
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Speaker 1: some bullshit. Like, personally, I would have just paid somebody
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Speaker 1: to knock that. Wait, wait, you can find somebody that
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Speaker 1: do not condoned violence or murder friars allegedly. No, but ship,
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Speaker 1: this happens to men every day when they get a divorce.
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Speaker 1: They had to pay that money. But you don't do
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Speaker 1: that to Mary. Mary is a whole national treasure. You
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Speaker 1: don't do that to Mary. Mary j Blige. I know
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Speaker 1: he's why her ass at the Super Bowl, like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's my ex BA, you did a super bowlish it.
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Speaker 1: She passed out because I gotta given listen, that was
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Speaker 1: the two years, during the two years that they were
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Speaker 1: going through the divorce. She's not paying him no more.
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Speaker 1: I'd like to think gee, I would definitely would have
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Speaker 1: had his ass knocked out. And I'm gonna talk for
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Speaker 1: that ship. I know Mary, she's going through that ship.
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Speaker 1: She had came running around like Lorenzo and Jail, Terek
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Speaker 1: and Diana fucking running them up. And she gotta give
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Speaker 1: kid do thirty am what hey? Like she probably should
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Speaker 1: have been a mona on that nigger had his ass
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Speaker 1: hanging for bonds and something. Your damn goodness, City boys
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Speaker 1: up for real about three trillion dollars? Do we have
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Speaker 1: a batty who talks back? We do, as a matter
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Speaker 1: of fact. Let me see y'all. All right, y'all know
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Speaker 1: we've been doing for the for Black History Month or
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Speaker 1: excuse me, I like what Kanye is saying, Black Future Month?
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Speaker 1: All right, we ain't living in the past no more.
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Speaker 1: It's up from here. So this week's batty who talks back,
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Speaker 1: uh is Gwendoline Brooks. Gwendolen Brooks. She's born in Topeka, Kansas,
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Speaker 1: and her family was in Chicago when she was Oh,
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Speaker 1: I'm out of breath. Why did I get out of breath?
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Speaker 1: All right? So this week's batty who're talking at the
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Speaker 1: same time, But we just jumped into that bage like
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Speaker 1: this one. You know, you're family. I aren't even moving
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Speaker 1: around me, and I'm exhausted using my heir to speak.
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Speaker 1: Y'all hit that alright? Sorry? H all right, y'all. So look,
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Speaker 1: this week's batty who talks back is Gwendolynn Elizabeth Brooks um.
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Speaker 1: Her and her family moved to Chicago from Topeka, Kansas
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Speaker 1: when she was a young girl. She was an American poet, arthur,
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Speaker 1: and teacher. Her work often dealt with personal liberations and
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Speaker 1: struggles of ordinary people in her community. She won the
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Speaker 1: Polar Surprise for Poetry in May Excuse Me on May first,
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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty for Annie Allen, making her the first African
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Speaker 1: American to receive a poet Surprise. Many of brooks works
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Speaker 1: display of political consciousness, especially those from the nineteen sixties
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Speaker 1: and later, with several of her poems reflecting the civil
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Speaker 1: rights activism of that period. So listen. You've heard her
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Speaker 1: poems on Kanye's uh Dande album on the song Praise God.
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Speaker 1: You heard that song and all over TikTok. It goes
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Speaker 1: something like this, even if you're not ready for the day,
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Speaker 1: it cannot always be night. Pick a back. So that's
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Speaker 1: actually Gwendolynn Brooks, Um, it's a poem. It's called speech
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Speaker 1: to the Young, all right. Gwendolyn Brooks. A batty who
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Speaker 1: talks back. Gwendolyn Brooks. Alright, guys, we got Aunt Louis
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Speaker 1: from Snowfall on We talked back. Coming up next, y'all.
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Speaker 1: Stay tuned. What's up, y'all? It's your girl. A J
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Speaker 1: and We got a super duper special guest on We
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Speaker 1: Talked Back this week. Y'all, we got the lovely Angela
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Speaker 1: Lewis my favorite show, my aunt Louis. Yes, louis mother, wife, actress, dancer.
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Speaker 1: So tell us about how it's been playing this character
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Speaker 1: Louis in season five? What can we expect a little
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Speaker 1: bit Louie? You know, Louie is always fighting for her power,
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Speaker 1: and at the end of the season four she got
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Speaker 1: shot and almost died, and so she is really laser
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Speaker 1: focused on what it is she needs to do to
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Speaker 1: have the life that she wants to have and to
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Speaker 1: be who she sees herself as being. She's not taking
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Speaker 1: no for an answer. Um, She's she got a lot
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Speaker 1: of fight left in her and she she got a
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Speaker 1: lot of money, so she making things happened this year.
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Speaker 1: So growing up in Detroit, right, You're from Detroit, Michigan. Uh?
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Speaker 1: Did Angela have a completely different reality from Auntie Louis? Yes?
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Speaker 1: In that so I'm from Detroit, definitely, from the suburb
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Speaker 1: of Detroit. No, not at all. I'm from the East
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Speaker 1: Side Jefferson and Dick. But having said that, my parents
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Speaker 1: did a really good job of um protecting me from
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Speaker 1: the world and the city and all of the pitfalls
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Speaker 1: of it. They just kept me busy. My dad would
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Speaker 1: always say, and I don't mind as the devil's workshop.
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Speaker 1: And he wasn't a religious man, but he believed that.
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Speaker 1: So I was always in somebody's after school activity, some
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Speaker 1: summer camp, some performing arts, this and that. Um. My
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Speaker 1: parents were very supportive in the things that I was
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Speaker 1: interested in, and and that kept me busy and kept
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Speaker 1: me out of trouble for the most part. You know,
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Speaker 1: they you know, I got stories they don't know about,
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Speaker 1: but it definitely it kept me alive and and it
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Speaker 1: kept me thriving. Um. We you know I was poor,
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Speaker 1: but I didn't know it. I didn't know it until
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Speaker 1: high school when I started going over my friends houses
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Speaker 1: like oh oh my Um. But again that's a test
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Speaker 1: of it to my parents. You know, we never felt
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Speaker 1: like we were without and we felt loved and we
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Speaker 1: had fun. Um. Yeah. And so where I grew up.
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Speaker 1: And also a difference between myself and Louie is that
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Speaker 1: I had support and Louis did not have support growing up.
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Speaker 1: You know, she was told no all the time and
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Speaker 1: I got a lot of yeses. How didn't I think
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Speaker 1: I was in college and and then in New York
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Speaker 1: before I started getting a lot of nose. You know, no,
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Speaker 1: you can't do this, No you can't be that, like
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Speaker 1: right right? What would you say is your favorite part
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Speaker 1: of playing Louis that I get to like Louis is
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Speaker 1: so strong and I think I'm a strong human being
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Speaker 1: a strong woman. But Louis is not afraid. She is
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Speaker 1: not afraid of anybody, and well, she has her fears,
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Speaker 1: but she is able to um work around and through
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Speaker 1: those fears to really get what she wants. And I
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Speaker 1: think that that's so admirable. And she's so smart, you know,
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Speaker 1: she's Louise. She'd be strategizing and she comes up with
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Speaker 1: the plans, you know, and I and I take from that.
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Speaker 1: You know, I knew your character was going to be
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Speaker 1: a force to be reckon with from the scene where
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Speaker 1: you come out of the room from watching your show
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Speaker 1: and just start being a bit like I was like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna love this character. So there is a intimacy
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Speaker 1: between you and a female character was hard to play
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Speaker 1: or as a woman? You mean, I don't think it
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Speaker 1: was hard to play in terms of, like, you know,
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Speaker 1: woman on woman loving. I feel like, um, that's not
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Speaker 1: you know, my experience or my preference, but I think,
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Speaker 1: you know, people should love who they want to love,
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Speaker 1: and I think that our the way we kind of
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Speaker 1: choreographed our scenes. I don't as an audience member, I
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Speaker 1: don't know how graphic it felt, but it really felt
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Speaker 1: we um um Judith is the actress's name, Judith, And
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Speaker 1: I felt like it was really important to make the
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Speaker 1: scene beautiful, to um show the beauty between two really
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Speaker 1: different generations of black women, which we don't really get
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Speaker 1: to see that on TV, you know, And so um,
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Speaker 1: the lusty part of it wasn't so important. It was
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Speaker 1: really about connecting. And you know, I had a sheet
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Speaker 1: wrapped around me, so that took care of you know,
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Speaker 1: that takes care of itself. So I hope and I
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Speaker 1: think that we were successful in that. So No, it
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Speaker 1: wasn't It wasn't difficult in that way, Like I didn't
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Speaker 1: feel like or anything like that. Now, you didn't say
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Speaker 1: that you started. It wasn't until college that you started
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Speaker 1: getting knows Now, were you ever discouraged by those nose
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Speaker 1: and how did you overcome that? Um? I mean I
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Speaker 1: went to University of Michigan and in Detroit, and because
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Speaker 1: of the community that I was brought up in, they
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Speaker 1: did a good job at like preparing us. And I
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Speaker 1: don't remember at what age things started, but at the
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Speaker 1: very least sixth grade, so like eleven years old. Um,
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Speaker 1: they did a good job of preparing us or what
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Speaker 1: could might happen um out in the world once we
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Speaker 1: are you know, my school was mostly Detroit is mostly black,
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Speaker 1: and so I went to school with all black kids,
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Speaker 1: mostly black teachers. We had our Black History Month was
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Speaker 1: on jail like nobody do it like babu, and so
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Speaker 1: you know, I knew that there was a thing of
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Speaker 1: you know, being the only black person in your class,
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Speaker 1: but I had never experienced that until University of Michigan
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Speaker 1: and I had a lecture class and this lecture hall
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Speaker 1: was huge, I mean, like thousand kids easy, and I
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Speaker 1: was the only black student in that class, and that
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Speaker 1: was shocking and um. But still it was just the
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Speaker 1: reality of the situation. And like most black people, we
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Speaker 1: look at our realities and we keep it moving because
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Speaker 1: we got lis live, we got things we're trying to do,
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Speaker 1: you know, and so um. And also there were only
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Speaker 1: two of us in my class I made you in theater,
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Speaker 1: there were two black kids. Um. Two more kind of
22:13
Speaker 1: transferred in later, but there were two of us in
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Speaker 1: my class, and so that was frustrating, and uh could
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Speaker 1: be discouraging things like um invoiced class, being told that,
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Speaker 1: you know, to get rid of my accent, um and
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Speaker 1: try to sound more flat and American, not white, because
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Speaker 1: that wouldn't be you know, but flat and American. Um.
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Speaker 1: And that was right and and and that that was
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Speaker 1: the only way we were going to get jobs. And
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Speaker 1: so it felt like, excuse me, it felt like a um,
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Speaker 1: needing to remove myself from my culture. And that didn't
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Speaker 1: feel good. And so I just really and and also
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Speaker 1: I never succeeded in that all the way, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean, Like my accent is just my accent.
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Speaker 1: And then by the time I got into the work
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Speaker 1: for us, they were like, wait, what you're doing? Where's
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Speaker 1: your you know? So right, Um, it was definitely frustrating,
23:15
Speaker 1: but um uh and and things still are discouraging sometimes,
23:21
Speaker 1: but you know, we we we keep on. We do it. Anywore,
23:25
Speaker 1: how long have you've been chasing your acting career? Because
23:27
Speaker 1: I think when people end up on like big movies,
23:29
Speaker 1: or big shows. Your viewers oftentimes they think you came
23:33
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, you know, right, So, Um, yeah, I
23:37
Speaker 1: was in New York for thirteen years, um, acting doing
23:42
Speaker 1: our Broadway plays. Um, just pounding the pavement like every
23:48
Speaker 1: other actress, with my side job as a bartender and
23:50
Speaker 1: the cocktail waitress. Um, that's what I did. And then
23:55
Speaker 1: I moved to l A. And I was here for
23:58
Speaker 1: two years being in the pavement, and I was a
24:01
Speaker 1: receptionist at a gym and a babysitter for two years
24:06
Speaker 1: before snowfall came along. So no, it did not happen overnight,
24:12
Speaker 1: not at all. So let me ask you this, which
24:15
Speaker 1: did you prefer theater like off Broadway or actually acting
24:20
Speaker 1: in shows like? Which one is more better suited for you?
24:23
Speaker 1: Do you think? Oh? I like them both for different reasons. Um,
24:29
Speaker 1: in theater, you really, I mean the deep dives that
24:35
Speaker 1: you get to do inside of a character and a
24:38
Speaker 1: and a journey is really there's no there's nothing like it. Um,
24:43
Speaker 1: There's nothing like finding ways to keep things fresh after
24:49
Speaker 1: you've been doing the same thing eight days a week
24:52
Speaker 1: for however many weeks, and you still gotta keep it,
24:55
Speaker 1: like when that door opens that's the first time that
24:57
Speaker 1: door opens. Like how do you keep that honest and fresh? Um?
25:03
Speaker 1: Having said that, you know you make more money on camera,
25:08
Speaker 1: that's for sure, that's the starter. Um. Because being a
25:14
Speaker 1: theater actress, it's no joke, like you know what I mean,
25:17
Speaker 1: Like you doing the thing that you went to school for,
25:22
Speaker 1: the thing that you work your entire life to do,
25:25
Speaker 1: Like I didn't have a plan B Like this was it.
25:28
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be an actress and that's it. And you
25:32
Speaker 1: get in a show and you still can't pay your
25:34
Speaker 1: rent Like that's hard, Like I was, you know, working
25:37
Speaker 1: in a show and then going to my side job
25:39
Speaker 1: at night, Like that's not it's not fun. Theater actors absolutely,
25:44
Speaker 1: hands down should be getting paid more. Um. Having said that,
25:49
Speaker 1: as an on camera actress, yes, the money is that
25:51
Speaker 1: much better. Um. And I don't mean even just as
25:55
Speaker 1: a series regular. I mean, you know, you do you
25:58
Speaker 1: know a code a co star role, and you're getting
26:02
Speaker 1: paid more than you're getting paid you know for that
26:04
Speaker 1: week that you worked eight hours a day, you know
26:07
Speaker 1: what I mean. So there's that, and then there's also
26:12
Speaker 1: I feel like doing on camera work is the epitome
26:16
Speaker 1: of the thing. That I love the most about working
26:20
Speaker 1: in theater, which is rehearsal. I love the rehearsal process
26:23
Speaker 1: where you're you know, with your cast and your director
26:28
Speaker 1: and the energy is flowing, that creative energy that makes
26:31
Speaker 1: all those juices pop up, and you're exploring and finding
26:34
Speaker 1: new things and and you're listening to your gut on camera.
26:39
Speaker 1: When you get inspired, you gotta jump on that inspiration
26:44
Speaker 1: because you don't get tomorrow, Like, oh that thing, I
26:46
Speaker 1: wanted to do that thing, but I got scared, So
26:48
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it tomorrow. When we get to rehearsal,
26:50
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it tomorrow or tomorrow tomorrow show, I'm
26:54
Speaker 1: gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. You don't get
26:56
Speaker 1: you don't get tomorrow. You might not get another take,
26:59
Speaker 1: so you really to like on it. You know. So
27:02
Speaker 1: we know, we know you're married, But how is it
27:04
Speaker 1: working with Dampson? How is it? How is he? Damn?
27:14
Speaker 1: It was awesome? Damnson. He's a sweetheart. He very professional. Um,
27:21
Speaker 1: he is the engine of our show, you know, and
27:25
Speaker 1: super funny. You know. Man, when we all get together,
27:29
Speaker 1: it's a riot. And I feel bad for the new
27:31
Speaker 1: directors coming in because they it's gonna be hard to
27:35
Speaker 1: like rally us together, like, come on, y'all, we got
27:37
Speaker 1: work to do. Um. He is quite funny and he's
27:41
Speaker 1: a sweetheart. So you are you happy with the direction
27:46
Speaker 1: and show is going in after the passing of John Singleton?
27:49
Speaker 1: Do you feel like it would be different if he
27:51
Speaker 1: was still with us or you're very happy with what's
27:54
Speaker 1: going on? Um? I think it's a mix of both.
27:57
Speaker 1: I think the show would be different if he was
27:59
Speaker 1: still around because we worked with him at Nobody can
28:03
Speaker 1: replace him. Yeah. He he He was the authenticity of
28:08
Speaker 1: the show. He was the the heart that, you know,
28:12
Speaker 1: the the it was his you know, brain child, So
28:19
Speaker 1: nothing will replace that. Um. Having said that, I do
28:23
Speaker 1: feel like he left behind a group of people, a
28:29
Speaker 1: group of artists who really want to make him proud,
28:34
Speaker 1: who really understood what it was he was wanting to say. Um,
28:41
Speaker 1: And I do feel proud of where the show was going.
28:44
Speaker 1: I hope he's proud, you know. I do know that
28:47
Speaker 1: when we come, we come with our a game and
28:50
Speaker 1: we do our best, and when things don't feel right
28:54
Speaker 1: on the page, you know, we go in the room
28:56
Speaker 1: and or call up the show runner and say, hey,
29:00
Speaker 1: what what does this mean? You know? Um? And I
29:03
Speaker 1: think that our writers are smart writers and their humans
29:07
Speaker 1: and they want to tell a human story. And and yeah,
29:10
Speaker 1: I hope John is proud now. A j said she
29:15
Speaker 1: brought up you being married because she wanted you to
29:17
Speaker 1: say something juicy about dancing. But we know you ain't
29:19
Speaker 1: gonna do that. Some we're gonna lead that alone. It's like,
29:22
Speaker 1: my brother, I'm weird. It's like, I don't know if
29:25
Speaker 1: I had anything, So tell us this. How do you
29:30
Speaker 1: juggle being a mom because I see your mom to
29:33
Speaker 1: a two year old and being a wife, so those
29:36
Speaker 1: take huge, you know, amount of time their priority. How
29:40
Speaker 1: do you juggle those with career? Um? I think I
29:45
Speaker 1: just try to be in the moment, you know. Um,
29:50
Speaker 1: When I'm at work, I have a husband, an amazing husband, y'all.
29:55
Speaker 1: He holds me down so much. I just I don't
30:00
Speaker 1: know if I can do it. Yes, yes it is.
30:03
Speaker 1: And and you know, when I'm at work, I'm at work,
30:08
Speaker 1: and and the baby is at an age where I
30:11
Speaker 1: don't call to check in with her because it just
30:14
Speaker 1: makes her more mad. So it doesn't yeah, exactly, and
30:21
Speaker 1: it should be crying and I feel bad by the
30:24
Speaker 1: husband and the nanny and so, um, when I'm at work,
30:28
Speaker 1: I'm at work check in with my husband, but not
30:32
Speaker 1: on FaceTime yet not yet. Um. And then when I'm
30:35
Speaker 1: with my family, I'm with my family and and he's
30:37
Speaker 1: in the business too, and so it makes it easier
30:40
Speaker 1: to have a short hand on you know, what's happening
30:43
Speaker 1: and what needs to happen. And um, we just you know,
30:46
Speaker 1: really work to support each other in that way, you know.
30:50
Speaker 1: And when if I need to take some time to
30:53
Speaker 1: you know, do interviews or to you know, work on
30:56
Speaker 1: some lines or you know, to take we help each
30:58
Speaker 1: other with our health tapes and things like that. We
31:01
Speaker 1: we figure it out. And so I don't I don't
31:03
Speaker 1: know how I juggle it. I just know what needs
31:06
Speaker 1: to get done and we figure it out. That's right.
31:10
Speaker 1: So you're from Detroit and I see that you're a vegan,
31:14
Speaker 1: and I know your aunts grew up. So how did
31:17
Speaker 1: that happen? When when did you decided to become a
31:19
Speaker 1: vegan and why? Yeah, So, to be honest, I am
31:24
Speaker 1: pesca vegan. I added fish and in my second trimester. Um,
31:29
Speaker 1: but I became vegan because I knew I wanted to
31:31
Speaker 1: have a baby, but I wasn't sure when that was
31:34
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Um, especially once I put snowfall, I was like, Okay,
31:39
Speaker 1: well now I'm in a show. Am I gonna stop
31:43
Speaker 1: to have a baby? But I didn't. I fully believe
31:46
Speaker 1: in energy and and and all that stuff that some
31:49
Speaker 1: people might call who woo but something my friend calls
31:52
Speaker 1: it the woo. I fully believe in the woo. And
31:56
Speaker 1: so I didn't want to tell the baby energy no
31:59
Speaker 1: to go away. So I said to the baby, whenever
32:02
Speaker 1: you're ready, I'll be ready. And and in that process
32:08
Speaker 1: I meditate, uh quite a bit, and I heard prepare
32:14
Speaker 1: the space. And I took that um to mean not
32:17
Speaker 1: only my home but also my body. And because I
32:21
Speaker 1: did grow up in Detroit, and I you know, I
32:24
Speaker 1: was chili, cheese, fries and all the burgers and all
32:29
Speaker 1: the things. And I just felt like, over the years
32:32
Speaker 1: my body and I grew up a dancer. So my
32:34
Speaker 1: body has worked hard to to support me and to
32:41
Speaker 1: allow me to thrive. And so in this moment where
32:44
Speaker 1: I want my body to do this, perform this miracle
32:50
Speaker 1: and and and to perform optimally, maybe I should take
32:55
Speaker 1: a break from things that require a lot to digest
33:00
Speaker 1: that prevent the body from healing, because when your body
33:04
Speaker 1: is digesting, it's not healing the things that you needed
33:07
Speaker 1: to heal. And I didn't have any like major ailments
33:10
Speaker 1: or anything, but I'm sure there are things that you
33:14
Speaker 1: know needed to happen in order to perform optimally, you know,
33:18
Speaker 1: And and and I feel like I did the right
33:22
Speaker 1: thing because my baby came milin she's she's at genius baby,
33:26
Speaker 1: like you know. And so what do you call it?
33:29
Speaker 1: Pest vegan? What you call it? Because I I eat
33:34
Speaker 1: a plant based diet mostly, but I most of the time.
33:37
Speaker 1: I'm um. I never just did straight vegan for a
33:40
Speaker 1: long time, so I do do the fish. I'm from
33:43
Speaker 1: the South, we from the South. Child, it's hard to
33:45
Speaker 1: just discard seafood living and growing up on the coast. Yeah,
33:49
Speaker 1: it interesting. Yeah, But you know, I think what's more
33:55
Speaker 1: important than and this is you know, completely my opinion,
33:58
Speaker 1: But what's more important than vegan or not being an
34:01
Speaker 1: a keto or whatever whatever whatever you want to be? Like,
34:04
Speaker 1: we don't really need labels that I think the ideal
34:07
Speaker 1: thing is to be able to choose your meals every meal.
34:11
Speaker 1: Is a choice, you know what I mean. And if
34:13
Speaker 1: you're conscious of what you're eating, what you're putting in
34:16
Speaker 1: your body, then who cares whether you're vegan or not.
34:19
Speaker 1: It's really about are you eating the things that's going
34:22
Speaker 1: to allow you to thrive? Right? You know? But sometimes
34:26
Speaker 1: a cheeseburger helped me, But you don't feel good after
34:29
Speaker 1: it though, you know what I'm saying. Like you don't,
34:34
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. But I started
34:37
Speaker 1: laying to beyond stuff because it's like three D meat,
34:41
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I exactly, I'd rather
34:44
Speaker 1: eat a piece of salmon than eating what did your friends?
34:49
Speaker 1: What did your friends say? My friends said everything in moderation,
34:53
Speaker 1: including moderation. So sometimes it's good to have that burger
35:00
Speaker 1: because every meal is a choice, and in this moment,
35:03
Speaker 1: I choose to have a Burger Burger. So, UM, I
35:06
Speaker 1: see that you're a huge philanthropist. You're doing the Cancer
35:09
Speaker 1: Society of America, Leukemia and le froma society, and most
35:13
Speaker 1: importantly to me is the Black and Missing. How how
35:16
Speaker 1: did you get involved with that? Um? How did I
35:20
Speaker 1: get involved? It was years ago. It just UM came
35:25
Speaker 1: to me in some kind of way that um, you know,
35:29
Speaker 1: when we go missing, ain't nobody checking. And I felt like, yeah,
35:35
Speaker 1: like that's terrible, and what can I do to you know,
35:42
Speaker 1: kind of help that. And you know, at the moment,
35:46
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I have a couple of dollars
35:49
Speaker 1: and this is long before snowfall, Like, let me just
35:52
Speaker 1: contribute to them. And so that's been, you know, it's
35:55
Speaker 1: really just been you know, little contributions here and there.
35:58
Speaker 1: My um, I biggest platform right now is UM in
36:06
Speaker 1: the black maternal health space. After having my baby, I
36:10
Speaker 1: realized I just learned so much. Oh my goodness, UM
36:15
Speaker 1: I learned a lot and I realized at the end
36:17
Speaker 1: of it that I spent a lot of money trying
36:20
Speaker 1: to have a healthy birth. UM something unexpected things happened
36:25
Speaker 1: and nothing like it wasn't anything like traumatic. I had
36:29
Speaker 1: a beautiful experience, but I had reath like sologe I
36:34
Speaker 1: was trying to induce. They wanted I needed to be
36:35
Speaker 1: induced and I didn't want to do it. I didn't
36:38
Speaker 1: want to get induced. I wanted to have a natural
36:40
Speaker 1: water birth, and so I got read lexology, I had acupuncture,
36:45
Speaker 1: I had a massage. Massues come a couple of times,
36:48
Speaker 1: like all of these things, just trying to just trying
36:51
Speaker 1: to induce naturally, it didn't happen. Um, I ended up
36:55
Speaker 1: needing to be induced and everything you know worked out mine.
37:01
Speaker 1: But I was like, I spent a lot of money.
37:04
Speaker 1: What if I wasn't on the TV show? How would
37:07
Speaker 1: that have gone down? You know? And what if I
37:10
Speaker 1: didn't have access to all of these resources. So I
37:15
Speaker 1: just think it is another tragedy in this country that
37:19
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta have all you know, stacks and
37:22
Speaker 1: stacks in order to have in order to feel safe
37:29
Speaker 1: in the knowing that you can have a healthy, joyous
37:33
Speaker 1: birth right. That's the tragedy. And so I'm really um
37:38
Speaker 1: working to to educate women on the different resources that
37:43
Speaker 1: are available to them. I'm working to be a vessel
37:47
Speaker 1: for those resources to not be a burden on women
37:51
Speaker 1: at a time that's already so full of you know,
37:55
Speaker 1: the unexpected and the unknown like less you know, we
38:00
Speaker 1: should be feel enjoy at that time, not stressed, you know.
38:05
Speaker 1: And and and it's important for women, for our women
38:09
Speaker 1: to feel supported, to be supported and to have a
38:14
Speaker 1: voice and feel like they can be advocates for themselves.
38:18
Speaker 1: And if they can't they have support to advocate for
38:20
Speaker 1: them because it's a lot of it's a lot of bulls.
38:26
Speaker 1: So is that the moon Child Collaborative because I saw
38:29
Speaker 1: that Moonchild Collaborative. Well, it's under that. So Moonchild Collaborative
38:35
Speaker 1: is my umbrella production company and houses UM myself and
38:40
Speaker 1: my husband as UM business entities. And then underneath that
38:45
Speaker 1: umbrella we have Moonchild. Uh yeah, wait, moon Child Group
38:50
Speaker 1: is the umbrella company. Moonchild Collaborative is the nonprofit entity.
38:54
Speaker 1: And then our first program under that is birth Village,
38:58
Speaker 1: which is like what you what the masses We'll see
39:03
Speaker 1: once we are done branding and sounds nice. Now. I
39:09
Speaker 1: saw on your website that you had some core character
39:12
Speaker 1: traits listed in the Girl. I was researching your girl,
39:21
Speaker 1: the transcendent lover, the survivor, the timid warrior, and the
39:25
Speaker 1: heroine with the forgotten song. Which one do you feel
39:28
Speaker 1: like you resonates with you most? And why? Well, I
39:33
Speaker 1: think all of them resonate with me the most, which
39:36
Speaker 1: is why I UM pulled them out like those are
39:42
Speaker 1: the So in any given UM project, in any given character,
39:52
Speaker 1: if those traits are there, that's what I'm gonna I'm
39:56
Speaker 1: gonna easily connect to those things. So and doesn't matter,
40:01
Speaker 1: you know, how old the character is, It doesn't matter
40:03
Speaker 1: if the character is is written as white or Asian
40:08
Speaker 1: or or what it is. I'm going to be able
40:11
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, I get what this character is
40:14
Speaker 1: going through because oh, that's the timid warrior. She's the
40:17
Speaker 1: one who like is afraid to speak out, but she's
40:21
Speaker 1: gonna do it anyway, and that that resonates with me.
40:25
Speaker 1: So each of those um um uh character types are
40:34
Speaker 1: the ones that that I can settle into easily because
40:37
Speaker 1: that's where I go. Because I was gonna ask you, like,
40:39
Speaker 1: what are some of the um some of the things
40:42
Speaker 1: that you've learned about yourself playing you know, such a strong,
40:45
Speaker 1: dynamic character like Aunt Louis. Yeah, I've learned that I
40:54
Speaker 1: don't speak up as often as I should, and that
40:59
Speaker 1: I can and speak up more like I am fully capable. Yeah,
41:04
Speaker 1: I'm fully capable of filling that space. I don't think
41:10
Speaker 1: I really really knew that before. Um And I've learned
41:18
Speaker 1: how to really hone in on storytelling and this is
41:26
Speaker 1: an actor's skill and this is what also with the
41:29
Speaker 1: help of Aim and Aiman Joseph who plays Jerome he's
41:32
Speaker 1: so good at like cutting through all the other things
41:41
Speaker 1: that's happening in the scene and getting right to the
41:45
Speaker 1: meat of the story, like what's really happening between these
41:48
Speaker 1: two characters right now? Um, and he often brings all
41:52
Speaker 1: of us two that clarity. Um. It's really he's so
41:59
Speaker 1: good at that. He's going to be an amazing director. Um.
42:03
Speaker 1: He already is. He's directing, but you'll get bigger. Yeah. Um.
42:08
Speaker 1: But in that I have learned a little bit of
42:11
Speaker 1: how to do that too. So it's exciting to tell
42:15
Speaker 1: me this. What what? What's something that people should know
42:19
Speaker 1: about you that they that nobody would know something about
42:23
Speaker 1: Angela not Louis. Mm. What should people know about me
42:30
Speaker 1: that they don't already know? Um? That's a good question. Um, oh,
42:45
Speaker 1: I stumped you on that one. You did? You did?
42:48
Speaker 1: I what we don't have that? Okay? Well, what is
42:53
Speaker 1: something that people incorrectly assume about you? People? People think
43:00
Speaker 1: I'm crazy based on are but no, they really think
43:06
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm gonna be like beating people up and
43:09
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, wait, no, that that's not me. That's
43:14
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how it happens right there. Do people
43:22
Speaker 1: come to your social media talking shit like you're the character. No,
43:28
Speaker 1: I mean not really. Sometimes people come out of pocket
43:31
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, well I have to step strate,
43:33
Speaker 1: you know, in a loving way. Tell us this. What
43:39
Speaker 1: what is your dream role? Like? Who do you want
43:41
Speaker 1: to play? Are? What would it be? Um? I mean
43:46
Speaker 1: I still have a lot of dream roles left to play. Um,
43:49
Speaker 1: I do want to I want to play a character
43:56
Speaker 1: who is other worldly. So I like, I love some
44:04
Speaker 1: sci fi so and I and I love um when
44:08
Speaker 1: you start getting into like magic and and ethereal things. Um, yeah,
44:17
Speaker 1: talk about stupid. Okay, Now, if you had somebody to
44:31
Speaker 1: play you in a movie, like if your lifetime story
44:34
Speaker 1: was a movie, who would you want to be here? Oh? Man?
44:39
Speaker 1: Um me at this point herself, what are youbody? I'm
44:52
Speaker 1: still young? But somebody else? Who who would I get? Um?
44:59
Speaker 1: You know shan Say Adams. It's from Detroit and she's
45:03
Speaker 1: so good. Um so yeah, I would say Shante Sante Adams.
45:08
Speaker 1: She was in Baby Boy. Um No, Shante was in
45:14
Speaker 1: what's this last movie she did with? Um? Oh god? Um?
45:19
Speaker 1: She was Roxane Okay okay, yeah, okay, yeah she's different.
45:24
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, I got one more question. Okay almost, Uh,
45:31
Speaker 1: tell me, like the most cutthroat experience you had in Hollywood,
45:35
Speaker 1: because I know it's a cutthroat industry. The most cut
45:40
Speaker 1: When did when did you almost become Louis in real life? Like?
45:43
Speaker 1: They don't try then out of me and I had
45:49
Speaker 1: to beat somebody up on set. I'm gonna call my husband, right,
46:00
Speaker 1: um man, um, I wasn't about so Okay, here's one.
46:05
Speaker 1: The carpet, right. The carpet is such an interesting thing
46:12
Speaker 1: because the red carpet, because it's more than just getting
46:18
Speaker 1: pretty for a picture, right, There's a lot of things
46:21
Speaker 1: that go into it, and especially I'm gonna say, especially
46:26
Speaker 1: when you first started out it, You've worked your butt
46:31
Speaker 1: off to get to where you are finally in this
46:35
Speaker 1: position where I even get to walk a red carpet, right,
46:39
Speaker 1: and now you spent all of this money to hire
46:43
Speaker 1: a stylus, the hair and the and the makeup and
46:46
Speaker 1: the boardrobe stylist to get finally get the look and
46:52
Speaker 1: you get to the carpet. The first time I went
46:54
Speaker 1: on a carpet that wasn't an f X carpet. So
46:57
Speaker 1: with f FX, everybody was are for us. Everybody knows
47:02
Speaker 1: these are the people were in the family. So the
47:05
Speaker 1: cameras are I can't roll my tongue, but you know,
47:08
Speaker 1: it's going and going and going. So my first non
47:13
Speaker 1: effex carpet, I remember what it was, but nobody knew
47:18
Speaker 1: who I was. I mean, my name was on the
47:20
Speaker 1: list and everybody had the thing with my picture and
47:23
Speaker 1: my name. So the photographers were like, who this black girl? Yeah,
47:32
Speaker 1: no picture. I'm like that, ain't gonna take the picture away?
47:35
Speaker 1: And then finally maybe they would mm hmmm, and I'm like, wait,
47:43
Speaker 1: what is happening right now? It was such a demoralizing moment,
47:48
Speaker 1: and like, well, clearly I belong here because my name
47:52
Speaker 1: is on the thing. I'm Auntie Louie. You're not playing
47:56
Speaker 1: with me, But why would you even do that? That
48:00
Speaker 1: was it was the meanest thing that's ever happened to me.
48:03
Speaker 1: And and it was though that moment that I realized, Oh,
48:10
Speaker 1: this is all about money, Like, however you getting paid,
48:15
Speaker 1: you ain't really getting paid to take my pictures, so
48:17
Speaker 1: you don't need to. This is not about me. And
48:20
Speaker 1: this is the moment that I learned that Hollywood is
48:22
Speaker 1: not really about you. Hollywood and money machine. Yes, and
48:29
Speaker 1: so I that was the moment I had to like
48:33
Speaker 1: change my focus and and and really hone into what
48:37
Speaker 1: is about me? You know, because even when they don't
48:41
Speaker 1: know me, it's not about me. But even when they do,
48:44
Speaker 1: when they are like Miss Lewis, Mrs Lewis, ms Lewis
48:46
Speaker 1: taking the pictures, taking the pictures, and you know, and
48:49
Speaker 1: you know, three four or five, ten years, you know,
48:53
Speaker 1: as I get bigger in my career, gets bigger, you know,
48:57
Speaker 1: it still is not about me. I can't take that
49:00
Speaker 1: to my head, you know, and let it get in
49:02
Speaker 1: the way. So yeah, I had to refocus and really
49:06
Speaker 1: figure out what what is about me? What in my
49:09
Speaker 1: life am I doing that's about me? Okay, hold that
49:12
Speaker 1: thought one second. Let's pay some bills. Your husband, how
49:20
Speaker 1: did you know that he was the one for you? Like?
49:22
Speaker 1: What was it? Oh? Well, there were multiple things that
49:28
Speaker 1: happened aspired to that right there. I even marry seven years,
49:39
Speaker 1: seven years and together ten um. He the it was
49:46
Speaker 1: just it was healing, that was one. Um. There were
49:54
Speaker 1: dreams involved, um, like literal dreams, like I dreamt about
50:00
Speaker 1: order unlike our second we weren't even dating yet, and
50:03
Speaker 1: I was like, oh so listen, Um, I just dreamt
50:08
Speaker 1: that about our daughter, and because I was like, that's
50:10
Speaker 1: a lot. I'm not holding that by myself, right, um,
50:16
Speaker 1: and he was just he is super sweet, super supportive, UM,
50:25
Speaker 1: super creative. We don't always agree, you know, and we're
50:29
Speaker 1: learning more and more how to communicate better with each other.
50:35
Speaker 1: But the just the fact that he doesn't he doesn't
50:38
Speaker 1: give up on that on the working towards us being together.
50:45
Speaker 1: We're growing as individuals, but we are growing together. Um.
50:51
Speaker 1: And that was apparent from the beginning. M yeah, m hm.
50:57
Speaker 1: That's because anytime somebody asked me a about one of
51:00
Speaker 1: these niggas, I'd be like, definitely blessed in that apartment
51:13
Speaker 1: for real. So we have this segment on our show,
51:17
Speaker 1: and we do it with everybody. Is called dumping stories,
51:20
Speaker 1: right and basically I know. So we want you to
51:27
Speaker 1: share with us a time in your life where you
51:29
Speaker 1: might have got played, you were in a relationship where
51:31
Speaker 1: he did some shipped to you that you didn't appreciate,
51:34
Speaker 1: or you made some bad choices behind the man. Can
51:37
Speaker 1: you share that with us in our listeners dumb bitch stories,
51:43
Speaker 1: because we've all been a dumb bitch at least once.
51:45
Speaker 1: Or twice. Oh my god, how long we got? You
51:54
Speaker 1: got you out? We're here. Um. The relationship I was
52:01
Speaker 1: in before my husband was just a dumbish relationship. And
52:06
Speaker 1: I was in that relationship for five years. So yeah, yeah,
52:11
Speaker 1: he wasn't right. He wasn't right. He was lying and
52:14
Speaker 1: cheating and all the things, and I felt like I
52:17
Speaker 1: had to be able to prove it in order for
52:21
Speaker 1: it to be true. So one of the one of
52:26
Speaker 1: the many things that I learned from that relationship is
52:29
Speaker 1: you know what you know. You don't gotta prove it.
52:31
Speaker 1: You don't gotta come up with the physical evidence. That's it.
52:38
Speaker 1: And that's what a lot of us will do. We
52:40
Speaker 1: have to find some ship, all right. But I was
52:43
Speaker 1: a girl. I was in this relationship, and that's where
52:45
Speaker 1: every time that man left the house, I was under
52:46
Speaker 1: the bed, I was in the closet. I was looking like,
52:49
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find what you're doing, and I was myself,
52:54
Speaker 1: exactly what you want to do, so I can see
52:56
Speaker 1: what you rather do. I'm not going through your ship
52:58
Speaker 1: because it's gonna knock on the front door. And a
53:01
Speaker 1: couple of times literally knock on the front door. Right right, No, girl,
53:07
Speaker 1: I turned into expect your motherfucking gadget as soon as
53:10
Speaker 1: that left. And the crazy thing is when you do
53:15
Speaker 1: find what you're looking for, you like no making all
53:18
Speaker 1: kinds of excuses like let that man cheat in peace
53:22
Speaker 1: and you ain't ready to leave. That's what I believe it.
53:27
Speaker 1: When I'm ready to leave, I'm going through all your
53:30
Speaker 1: ship until you're ready to leave. This is why I'm leaving.
53:39
Speaker 1: So okay, we'll last thing, all right. One piece of
53:43
Speaker 1: advice that you would give to young black people who
53:46
Speaker 1: are interested, especially women interested in becoming an actor, what
53:51
Speaker 1: would you tell them? It's not easy, so don't think
53:58
Speaker 1: that it is. Do not. It just doesn't happen overnight.
54:03
Speaker 1: So people hit me up all the time, you know,
54:05
Speaker 1: asking me can I hook them up the snowfall, and
54:08
Speaker 1: it just doesn't work like that, Like, hey, I don't
54:11
Speaker 1: know you, and I don't know what you can do,
54:14
Speaker 1: and even if you are the most talented person in
54:19
Speaker 1: the world, it just doesn't work like that. Um it
54:24
Speaker 1: Sometimes it oftentimes takes years and years and years of
54:28
Speaker 1: pounding the pavement to make it happen. And that's okay.
54:33
Speaker 1: It is the rare occasion where somebody gets hits overnight
54:40
Speaker 1: like fresh out of school or fresh off the whatever. Um,
54:44
Speaker 1: So don't let the fact that it's taking a long
54:48
Speaker 1: time UM deter you discourage you because what you should
54:56
Speaker 1: be doing while things are not going the way you
55:00
Speaker 1: want them to go, is be paying attention to you.
55:04
Speaker 1: Are you living the life that you want to live,
55:08
Speaker 1: because your life is going to um inform your career.
55:17
Speaker 1: Like nobody wants an actor who is you know for
55:22
Speaker 1: all of us, like theater kids out there, who is
55:25
Speaker 1: just acting? Like? No, you gotta have like hobbies and
55:29
Speaker 1: things that you like to do, and and it's important
55:31
Speaker 1: to do that not only so that you can talk
55:33
Speaker 1: to people, but so that you're not sitting around waiting
55:36
Speaker 1: on your phone ring because that ship would drive you crazy. Right.
55:40
Speaker 1: And then if you're not a theater kid or a
55:44
Speaker 1: theater nerd, but you still want to act, just what
55:49
Speaker 1: are you doing? Just live your life? You gotta and
55:53
Speaker 1: but go hard, you know what I mean, Like it's
55:55
Speaker 1: a it's a balance between between the two. Um, go
55:59
Speaker 1: hard because this is not easy. And it's a lot
56:01
Speaker 1: of people who say that they're actors who are not
56:03
Speaker 1: really doing nothing, you know. Um yeah, So don't don't
56:08
Speaker 1: even if you're audition given, if your auditions. I have
56:12
Speaker 1: a friend, like you know, she had some some gigs now,
56:14
Speaker 1: but for a long while she was just getting a
56:17
Speaker 1: lot of knows. I wouldn't take that. I wouldn't take
56:19
Speaker 1: like her not being a an actress from her, but
56:23
Speaker 1: she was getting no for about five years. No, yes,
56:27
Speaker 1: nose doesn't mean that you're not an actors. I mean
56:29
Speaker 1: there are some people who are who say that they're
56:31
Speaker 1: an actress, but they're not going forward. They're not auditioning,
56:36
Speaker 1: they're not in class, they're not doing nothing, just talking
56:40
Speaker 1: about dying actor and it's like, but no, you're not
56:42
Speaker 1: not really, you know that's the only acting you're doing. Yes,
56:54
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us, man, We really
56:57
Speaker 1: really super appreciated. We can't wait to watch you on
56:59
Speaker 1: this happen and I know I hope you'll be tearing
57:01
Speaker 1: it up again. I know you're gonna be tearing it up. Yeah, wow, y'all.
57:07
Speaker 1: I'm excited for y'all to so um. Okay, tell everybody
57:10
Speaker 1: where to find you when the show errors everything? Yeah,
57:14
Speaker 1: so um. You can find me on Instagram and Twitter
57:17
Speaker 1: at love Angela Louis l U v Angela Lewis l
57:21
Speaker 1: E W I S And yeah, that's that's where I
57:25
Speaker 1: am most of the time. It snowfall. Wednesday is back, y'all. Y'all,
57:35
Speaker 1: just you need to be with my joint and my burger.
57:41
Speaker 1: I gotta binge watch it before it comes out next
57:43
Speaker 1: week so I can know what the hell is going on.
57:45
Speaker 1: I don't watch t V. I to watch the last
57:47
Speaker 1: season over just to be, you know, remember everything that happens,
57:51
Speaker 1: so I can read. Thank you, girl, we appreciate you.
57:55
Speaker 1: Come back and see us. Okay, okay, we'll do all right.
57:59
Speaker 1: So now I guess I gotta binge watch TV. That
58:02
Speaker 1: should do. Girl, you're missing out on. This show is
58:04
Speaker 1: so good, so entertaining. I don't know. I watched the
58:09
Speaker 1: last episode. Well watch all the rest of them. Please
58:15
Speaker 1: please go back and start from the beginning. It's hard, man.
58:17
Speaker 1: Once the ship is out there, it's like I gotta
58:19
Speaker 1: watch three years worth of TV. It's not three years.
58:22
Speaker 1: It will take you a weekend to catch up. It's
58:25
Speaker 1: three years, girl, watch that ship. It's so good. Yeall.
58:31
Speaker 1: So if you didn't watch, this was prerecorded, but if
58:36
Speaker 1: you haven't watched it, it came out last night, So
58:39
Speaker 1: y'all tune in. The Snowfall is a really good show.
58:41
Speaker 1: And Louis is dope on the show and dope as
58:46
Speaker 1: the character, So y'all tune into her. Please, dope on
58:49
Speaker 1: the show and dope as the character. I mean she
58:51
Speaker 1: dope in person. She's dope as herself and dope as
58:55
Speaker 1: on Louis. That's what I mean. All Right, y'all listen.
59:01
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