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Wired To Hunt Podcast #189: Rut Radio 12/6/17 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This episode number one nine, and
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Speaker 1: today we're back with a late season edition of our
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Speaker 1: rut radio episodes, and we're getting updates from deer hunters
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Speaker 1: across the country about the latest on deer movement, dear behavior,
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Speaker 1: and the tactics that you can be working on right
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Speaker 1: now to fill that late season tag. All right, welcome
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Speaker 1: to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by
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Speaker 1: sit gear, and here today we are doing one of
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Speaker 1: our radio episodes in which we are checking in with
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Speaker 1: a series of hunters from all across the country to
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Speaker 1: get the latest on what's happening in the White Tail woods.
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Speaker 1: So we're talking to people about the deer activity they're seeing,
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Speaker 1: how dear behaving, how they are reacting to different sets
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Speaker 1: of weather factors and conditions, um, what kind of tactics
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Speaker 1: are working. All that kind of good stuff, so that
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Speaker 1: when you head to the woods next you have the
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Speaker 1: most recent and relevant information to help you fill those
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Speaker 1: final tags of the season. And even though Novembers in
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Speaker 1: the rear view mirror and a lot of running activity
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Speaker 1: we would expect to see is is you know in
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Speaker 1: the past, there's still a lot of good hunting to come.
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Speaker 1: And so that's what we're talking about today with me
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Speaker 1: to help us do that is the one and only
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Speaker 1: tag filling machine Spencer New Hearth. Uh. It's almost ridiculous,
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Speaker 1: like it's it's hard for me to even know what
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Speaker 1: I've been doing wrong to have such a season opposite
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Speaker 1: of yours, because it seems like everywhere I go, everything
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Speaker 1: I do, the deer doing the opposit the thing. But you,
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Speaker 1: every place you go, every time you're in the woods,
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Speaker 1: seemingly you are punching a tag. You you just killed
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Speaker 1: and elk in like seven minutes or something probably like that.
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Speaker 1: Can you tell us really quick what happened there? Well?
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Speaker 1: In South Dakota, Uh, we have the Black Hills here,
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Speaker 1: just an island of mountains in the western part of
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Speaker 1: the state. And although a cow elk to most people
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Speaker 1: further west of here is not a big deal, in
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Speaker 1: South Dakota, there's only like a few hundred of those
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Speaker 1: tags given out. And so I am a flat lander,
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Speaker 1: being from the eastern part of the state. So getting
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Speaker 1: a cow elk was was really cool. And that was
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Speaker 1: December one that I was able to fill that tag.
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Speaker 1: That was the opening day for that hunt. So it
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Speaker 1: was just a fun way to to open up the
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Speaker 1: winter months here in South Dakota. And since I am
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Speaker 1: pretty much done deer hunting at this point, uh that
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Speaker 1: that was a cool way to to take my mind
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Speaker 1: off of not being able to chase white tails anymore.
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Speaker 1: And it was a rifle hunt for a cow. Like
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Speaker 1: I said, so I am now looking on for the
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Speaker 1: most part with that cow elk tag field Man, that
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Speaker 1: is awesome. And killing a cow elk, I mean, killing
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Speaker 1: any elk is such an accomplishment. Um. And just that meat,
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that meat is so good. I'm very,
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Speaker 1: very jealous. You've got a freezer full of of elk calm. So,
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Speaker 1: you killed a giant white tail with your bow in
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Speaker 1: a couple of days, you kill another big South Dakota
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Speaker 1: white tail with a rifle. You killed another big mule
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Speaker 1: here with a rifle. You killed a cow elk with
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Speaker 1: a rifle. Yeah, what'd you kill? Some kind of swans?
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Speaker 1: Some like paddlefish? Uh? You killed like a world record turkey. Uh,
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Speaker 1: what haven't you killed this year? Dude. Uh, we're running
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Speaker 1: out of things. We better just get so I can
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Speaker 1: get to new tags. Oh gosh, dude, that's exciting. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Just pass along some of this luck to the rest
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Speaker 1: of us and our listeners. And Uh, that being said,
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Speaker 1: do you have anything as far as the deer activity
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Speaker 1: report or anything that you want to share for for
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Speaker 1: South Dakota or anything, or do you want me to
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Speaker 1: share anything for my recent experiences. Well, I'll tell you
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Speaker 1: a little bit about South Dakota. Um, if if I
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Speaker 1: still was hunting, I'd be very excited for this coming
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Speaker 1: week because we just got like one of our first
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Speaker 1: good snowstorms. Uh, and that snow was gonna stick around
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Speaker 1: for a while. And so up until now, we've had
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Speaker 1: some really mild weather like days where it was hitting
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Speaker 1: seventy degrees setting record temperatures. And uh, this big snowstorm
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Speaker 1: we've gotten in this cold front words in the teens
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Speaker 1: on a regular basis, that's going to change a lot
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Speaker 1: of things. It will change where the dear bedding. Um,
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Speaker 1: they're definitely gonna seek out, you know, where they can
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Speaker 1: get out of the wind, where they get out of
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Speaker 1: the cold to those shelter belts are going to become
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Speaker 1: a big deal. And anything else where, it's gonna push
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Speaker 1: them out of the CRP and push them out of
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Speaker 1: some of those slews most likely, and then move them
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Speaker 1: to the food sources that you know, we always look
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Speaker 1: for in December. So I'd be really excited for this
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Speaker 1: coming week and you know, looking forward to patterning some
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Speaker 1: bucks that have not been doing a normal winter pattern
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Speaker 1: up until now. Yeah, yeah, ditto ditto from here here
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Speaker 1: in Michigan has been very mild lately, and just kind
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Speaker 1: of last night and today we've had a cold front
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Speaker 1: pushing through. It was in the fifties. You know this, Uh,
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Speaker 1: what's that? Today's Tuesday? Is that right? Um? So it's
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Speaker 1: in the fifties over the weekend and now today and
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Speaker 1: tomorrow's dropped into like twenties. So good cold front. I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna start hunting here again. I'm excited about that. UM.
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Speaker 1: I think that, like you said, while we don't have
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Speaker 1: the snow where I'm at, I do think the cold
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Speaker 1: temperatures will get deer moving. Um. Interestingly, UM, I won't
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Speaker 1: go to too much detail about what actually happened, but
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Speaker 1: I was hunting in Ohio the past four days, well,
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Speaker 1: last Thursday through Sunday, I was hunting down Ohio and
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Speaker 1: even though it was warm out, um, it was pretty warm,
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Speaker 1: like fifties. Uh. I saw a pretty decent amount of
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Speaker 1: deer activity. UM on a late season food source cut cornfield.
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Speaker 1: UM and I saw mature bucks three out of four nights,
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Speaker 1: moving pretty early in the day to an hour before darker.
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Speaker 1: So um, and I'm wondering if that could be attributed
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Speaker 1: to the moon situation we had last week. Now, we've
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Speaker 1: talked moon on the wire Hunt podcast a lot. UM.
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Speaker 1: I still don't know what I think, but a lot
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Speaker 1: of people, a lot of good hunters do say that
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Speaker 1: there's some kind of correlation. Who knows, but people like
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Speaker 1: the Druries or a number of other folks like to
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Speaker 1: talk about when you've got a moon that is rising
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Speaker 1: early in the evening during the daylight hour still, or
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Speaker 1: when you've got a moon that's still up in the
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Speaker 1: morning before or you know, after daylight in the morning.
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Speaker 1: So last week we had a moon that was rising early.
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Speaker 1: It was rising like an hour hour and a half
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Speaker 1: before dark and UM. I spoke with Terry Drewy the
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Speaker 1: day that I started hunting down there, and he was
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Speaker 1: talking about the fact that he thought these next few
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Speaker 1: days wore be really good for afternoon movement because of
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Speaker 1: that UM. So, I don't know if that was the
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Speaker 1: case or not, but it's just an interesting thing that
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Speaker 1: I did see the sightings um that you're supposed to
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Speaker 1: see with that kind of moon phase, don't. I can't
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Speaker 1: say confidently that it is that was the case, but
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Speaker 1: it was an interesting observation that I thought was worth
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Speaker 1: passing along. Well. Another Ohio report we have this week
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Speaker 1: is from Eric Long at Drumming Log Wildlife Management. Then
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Speaker 1: we go to Alabama. From Southern Worths Outdoors is Adam Biicce.
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Speaker 1: Then we talked to Gerard Cicelli from wreck get Or
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Speaker 1: Sent in New Jersey, and then we go to my
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Speaker 1: home state of South Dakota and at Daybreak Ranch we
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Speaker 1: talked to Jake Gregs. Excellent. Well, I'm looking forward to
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Speaker 1: tuning into this one myself and getting the reports, and
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Speaker 1: then I'm gonna try to take some of that info
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Speaker 1: put it to you some of my next couple of
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Speaker 1: days of hunting here because I'm excited to get in
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Speaker 1: the woods and try to make something happen in Michigan. So,
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Speaker 1: unless you have anything else to add, Spencer, I think
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Speaker 1: we should wrap this one up and get to those
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Speaker 1: report parts. I don't have anything new, but you sound rejuvenated.
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Speaker 1: Market sounds like you are ready to get haunting again.
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Speaker 1: A little different than the last couple of times I've
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Speaker 1: talked to you. Yeah, you know, I am feeling better.
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Speaker 1: I think I kind of ran myself into the ground
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Speaker 1: in November. Um between you know, you know how much
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Speaker 1: I was hunting, and then I was traveling so much
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Speaker 1: towards the end of November. Um that it feels good
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Speaker 1: to be home. I caught up on sleep, taking a
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Speaker 1: little time away from the woods, and then now I'm
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Speaker 1: back at it rejuvenated. I'm excited, and I just feel like,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's been a tough season for me so far,
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Speaker 1: but maybe that's because I'm due for great December. So
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Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna hope for. That's gotta be it.
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Speaker 1: I'll talk to you next week. Mark, Thanks Spencer. Before
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Speaker 1: we get to our first update, though, let's positive thank
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Speaker 1: about a Yukon hunt that ended with one of the
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Speaker 1: biggest caribou in pulping Young history. All right, so I'll
8:57
Speaker 1: tell you about a fun little hun I had this year.
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Speaker 1: It was the Yukon hunt. It was my caribou that
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Speaker 1: actually made the top fifty uh Pope and young Uh
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Speaker 1: eighth largest caribou killed with a bow in the last
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Speaker 1: eight years. So it really pretty cool special hunt to me.
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Speaker 1: My dad had passed away the exact day I flew
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Speaker 1: out into the bush. A year from that day. UM
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Speaker 1: got out there, got to camp. Here's sure that the
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Speaker 1: horses were gone. Took us six hours to get the
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Speaker 1: horses back to base camp. So the next day we
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Speaker 1: spiked out eight hour horseback ride setting up the wall tent.
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Speaker 1: We Uh we noticed some cariboo work on the edge
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Speaker 1: of this plateau that was about a mile away from
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Speaker 1: Spike Camp. UM. I kept going on there periodically taking
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Speaker 1: a look, and uh, to my surprise, I went back
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Speaker 1: there one time and just saw this thing. And I
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Speaker 1: haven't seen too many cariboo. I mean, I probably put
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Speaker 1: it into maybe a couple of hundred caribou in my life.
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Speaker 1: But I called the guide over here and I said,
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Speaker 1: you gotta look at this thing. Well he basically told
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Speaker 1: me to get my stuff now in very nice terms. Well,
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Speaker 1: about an hour and a half later, we had that
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Speaker 1: joining us on the line first is Eric Long, the
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Speaker 1: owner of Drumming Log Wildlife Management in Ohio. Now, Eric
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Speaker 1: in Ohio, what would you say the bug activity has
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Speaker 1: been lately on a scale of one to ten. Out
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Speaker 1: of one to ten, I would say it's a five.
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Speaker 1: And the reason being is that we're coming off for
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Speaker 1: you know, firearms season or gun season, which is a
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Speaker 1: week long, um and ended this past Sunday, and um,
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Speaker 1: you know, everything's just disoriented. Everything is kind of messed up.
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Speaker 1: But the activity, like off the cameras and stuff there,
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Speaker 1: it's just aren't to pick back up. They're starting to
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Speaker 1: be on their feet again and you know, doing some
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Speaker 1: little bit of chasing. Still so still with coming that
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Speaker 1: gun season. Uh would you say that that changes where
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Speaker 1: the dear bedding or does it make them more nocturnal?
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Speaker 1: What do you think is going on there? All the above?
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Speaker 1: All the above? Do you know the amount of pressure?
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Speaker 1: You know, Ohio, we like to think of it that
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Speaker 1: being a rural state, and it kind of is, but
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Speaker 1: it's getting very urbanized and um, it's just amount of pressure,
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Speaker 1: you know, amount of cover versus pressure. So these deer,
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Speaker 1: you know, they get thrown off their pattern, um a lot,
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Speaker 1: which is obvious. Everybody kind of knows that from you know,
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Speaker 1: the orange brignade out there, if you will. Um, So yeah,
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Speaker 1: they're you know, they're just kind of yeah, they're just
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Speaker 1: they're nocturnal. They're they're um, you know, they're not really
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Speaker 1: eating where they should be eating, you know, um, where
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Speaker 1: we like to have them eat. But um, yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: just it's going to take a little bit. So as
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Speaker 1: somebody looking to counter that, what are your tactics and
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Speaker 1: for this next week or so, as those deer are
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Speaker 1: you know, coming off that gun season patients. Yeah, the
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Speaker 1: hardest thing to do is be patient because it will, um,
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Speaker 1: they will get settled down. I mean. Being in the Midwest,
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Speaker 1: obviously we've got it's been mild weather. Um, but you
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Speaker 1: know the forecast is, you know, it's gonna get back
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Speaker 1: to normal. You know, some snow, some cold what you'll
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Speaker 1: get them back on their feet, you know. And I'm
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Speaker 1: looking for those food sources. Um. I know when you
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Speaker 1: do some management, you know those bucks. You know, when
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Speaker 1: you practice DM, it's a short intense rut and those
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Speaker 1: deer lose a lot of weight, so they're gonna be
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Speaker 1: wanting to, um, you know, get their weight back on
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Speaker 1: them for this upcoming growing season. So do you feel
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Speaker 1: an influx of new bucks this time of year, um,
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Speaker 1: once they're looking for food and coming off the pressure
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Speaker 1: of that gun season. Yeah, I mean not like what
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Speaker 1: you would think. I mean, at least you know obviously
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Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, all that's regional and property to property,
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Speaker 1: but as all all you know, um, just the the
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Speaker 1: places that I've been managing and stuff, we really don't
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Speaker 1: have that uh per se you know, um, because they're
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Speaker 1: larger properties. That's why, you know, but the guys that
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Speaker 1: owned fifty acres, obviously they're going to have an influx
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Speaker 1: of new deer you know in those areas. But as
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Speaker 1: a whole, you know, it's not too crazy. Well looking
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Speaker 1: beyond this next week, like you just talked about having
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Speaker 1: some patients, So the rest of December, what would be
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Speaker 1: some of your favorite tactics you used to maybe get
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Speaker 1: a mature buck on the ground? Food? Yeah, food, you
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Speaker 1: know those deer run by two things, ladies in in
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Speaker 1: their belly and yeah, so just food, especially in the
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Speaker 1: you know, the harsh conditions are you know, weatherwise, you
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Speaker 1: know they're going to be underfeet looking for food and
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Speaker 1: not necessarily food plots especially you know for the people
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Speaker 1: that do manage you know those sticker areas that native
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Speaker 1: vegetation that I always preach, Um, those areas, you know,
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Speaker 1: they're going to be where it's cover equals food. Um.
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Speaker 1: I know, I beat that like a dead horse, but
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Speaker 1: I see it for a reason. You know, Um, with
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Speaker 1: the amount of pressure and stuff like that that that
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Speaker 1: occurred last week, you know is dear not going to
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Speaker 1: feel comfortable being exposed. So there, you know, the sticker
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Speaker 1: areas that you know that has food value to it.
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Speaker 1: Those are the areas that kind of want to concentrate on.
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Speaker 1: But that's just my opinion. Well, this time of year,
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of hunters start to shift towards
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Speaker 1: evening sits and and rightfully so with food focus. But
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Speaker 1: do you have any favorite morning setups that you like
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Speaker 1: to use? Yeah, I mean I do. Um. Uh, you
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Speaker 1: know it's not necessarily obviously food plots, but you know
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Speaker 1: that position from food to betting area, you know, try
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Speaker 1: to get them in that between those like that. Um,
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Speaker 1: but that's really yet in the morning aspect, you know,
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Speaker 1: from food to betting. We'll going forward. Then the next
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Speaker 1: week or so, what do you think that bucket dud's
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Speaker 1: going to be on a scale of one to tend
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Speaker 1: in Ohio? Well, I'd like to think it'd be a
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Speaker 1: lot higher through the weather and you know the second run, Um,
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Speaker 1: the rut has been all over the place, uh here,
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Speaker 1: at least in the area that I've been hunting and
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Speaker 1: managing in those places in Ohio. Um. You know, I
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Speaker 1: would like to say at six seven eight, but you
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Speaker 1: know it's hard. Talent depends on the weather and you know, um,
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Speaker 1: we have our second done season coming up, like the
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Speaker 1: eighteen or I think the third week the third weekend
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Speaker 1: before Christmas that is, and that's gonna throw things off
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Speaker 1: a little bit again. But um, yeah, I would like
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Speaker 1: to say at six seven eight, But it all depends
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Speaker 1: on the weather and amount of pressure that people are
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Speaker 1: going to be putting forth on the landscape. So well,
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Speaker 1: good luck with what's left of your season, Erican, thanks
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Speaker 1: for joining me. Yeah, absolutely anytime. All in joining us
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Speaker 1: on the line. NIXT from Southern Roots Outdoors in Alabama
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Speaker 1: is Adam Bice now Adam in Obama. What would you
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Speaker 1: say the buck activity has been lately on the scale
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Speaker 1: of one to ten. Over the last ten days or so,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say probably around a three to four. It's
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Speaker 1: been are really hot down here lately, like it's been
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Speaker 1: across a lot of the states. Um, still a few
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Speaker 1: weeks away from the rut in a lot of places,
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Speaker 1: but some other places have seen from action going on. Early.
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Speaker 1: Our deer her is just kind of very throughout most
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Speaker 1: of the states. So depending on where you are, you
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Speaker 1: may have already seen some rutting activity and you may
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Speaker 1: be three or four weeks away from it. In other
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Speaker 1: parts had a really good early gun season. Gun season
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Speaker 1: open up us on number Overber the fifth. He but
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Speaker 1: since then it's kind of been slow. I said, weather
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Speaker 1: a moon phase has really heard us a little bit
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Speaker 1: and have a really big mass crop this year throughout
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Speaker 1: pretty much everywhere that I've heard of, well Adam early
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Speaker 1: to mid December here, uh lay out the difference for
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Speaker 1: me from north to south and Alabama. What phases the
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Speaker 1: rut you think they're in and what's going on with
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Speaker 1: those buck with that buck movement. Yeah, a lot of places,
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Speaker 1: it's not even so much north to south as it
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Speaker 1: is heard by her. Uh. There's a lot of people
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Speaker 1: that hunt out in East Alabama, even southeast Alabama. They'll
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Speaker 1: tell you that they see a lot of their prime
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Speaker 1: heavy chasing activity around Thanksgiving. Uh. Up around the northern
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Speaker 1: part of the state, close to the Tennessee line, you'll
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Speaker 1: see it around thanks Giving up to probably last weekend
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Speaker 1: was the big bulk of their running activity. And then
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Speaker 1: as you move farther south, or if you move in
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Speaker 1: different pockets, you might not see any running activity at
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Speaker 1: all until late January. Um, we actually have to extend
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Speaker 1: our season in Alabama to February tenth, about I think
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Speaker 1: it's three or four years ago because of so many
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Speaker 1: late ruts and people just missing out on totally because
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Speaker 1: our senity, our season was in due January, So it
17:47
Speaker 1: kind of just varies where you're at. For where we
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Speaker 1: are in Central Alabama, where our lease is, I'm saying
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Speaker 1: our best dates are probably gonna be somewhere around January
17:56
Speaker 1: tenth to the Usually, my favorite days of hunt are
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Speaker 1: the six two days. Those are my three favorite days
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Speaker 1: of being in the woods, just because that's when we
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Speaker 1: see the most mature bucks looking for those looking for
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Speaker 1: those first recepting ones coming in. Being about a month
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Speaker 1: off of the best rotting activity. Where you're at in
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Speaker 1: Central Alabama, are you starting to see an increase in
18:19
Speaker 1: signmaking as far as rubs and scrapes. Absolutely. I found
18:24
Speaker 1: my first real heavy ground sign not this past Saturday,
18:29
Speaker 1: but the Saturday before that, I found a couple of
18:31
Speaker 1: really good scrape lines going through a big travel corridor.
18:35
Speaker 1: Starting to see some scrapes on the hedge of greenfields. Um,
18:38
Speaker 1: it's starting to actually it's starting to heat up a
18:39
Speaker 1: little bit. They're starting to be on their feet a
18:41
Speaker 1: lot of this nighttime activity just looking at camera pictures
18:43
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But just seeing that sign get
18:47
Speaker 1: laid down as always exciting. I guess how aggressive are
18:52
Speaker 1: you then this time of year. You only hunting evenings
18:54
Speaker 1: at this point, or will you do some morning sits.
18:57
Speaker 1: We definitely do some morning sits. UM. The good thing
19:00
Speaker 1: about Alabama, the kind of the positive the negative is
19:03
Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of crops. We don't have
19:04
Speaker 1: a lot of road road crops out there. But when
19:07
Speaker 1: we get is a lot of timber company land, and
19:10
Speaker 1: with that timber to company land comes big cutovers. And
19:15
Speaker 1: after those cutovers have been done for three or four years,
19:18
Speaker 1: that gets thick and nasty, and those bucks love to
19:21
Speaker 1: bed up and those cutovers and you can access those
19:25
Speaker 1: on the edges, and we have such an extended rifle
19:27
Speaker 1: season down here you can reach out and touch them
19:30
Speaker 1: and sit there and watch their betting area in the mornings,
19:33
Speaker 1: and if we have to stand up for anything, that's
19:36
Speaker 1: when you get the chances at them. UM. So we
19:38
Speaker 1: definitely still do the morning huts. In the afternoon husts
19:40
Speaker 1: are a little bit more low pressure hunts, a lot
19:43
Speaker 1: of green fields um acron flats away from betting. UM.
19:48
Speaker 1: But right now, you know it's it's still really kind
19:50
Speaker 1: of a conservative thing. We haven't really got in there
19:53
Speaker 1: after them in righting their core areas yet. Well do
19:56
Speaker 1: you see whether to play a big rule during this
19:59
Speaker 1: part of the season. Oh yeah, right now, the weather
20:02
Speaker 1: fronts are gonna be what makes you successful or not successful. Um,
20:06
Speaker 1: the deer aren't necessarily up during daylight unless it is
20:10
Speaker 1: right Over the last week or so, we've had temperatures
20:13
Speaker 1: around seventy every day and the deer movement has just
20:16
Speaker 1: dropped off to almost nothing. Um. The people who I've
20:20
Speaker 1: talked to that have been hunting and have maybe seen
20:23
Speaker 1: one a day, but um, this weekend, we've got a
20:26
Speaker 1: big hole from I'm pushing through. Actually, the brain is
20:28
Speaker 1: about to get tough. Rain's about to get to me
20:30
Speaker 1: in about an hour. And once that rain pushes through,
20:33
Speaker 1: we're gonna drap from a high seventy two today to
20:35
Speaker 1: a low I'm goyne to a high forty six tomorrow.
20:38
Speaker 1: And uh, that's a big swing down here for us.
20:40
Speaker 1: And I think that the next couple of days are
20:42
Speaker 1: gonna be really good down here. We got some sun
20:44
Speaker 1: peeking through on Saturday, Saturday and Sunday, when the majority
20:47
Speaker 1: of our hunters are gonna be in the woods and
20:49
Speaker 1: you'll definitely see some deer hit the ground out of
20:51
Speaker 1: Alabama this weekend going forward, then this next week or so,
20:54
Speaker 1: what do you think that Bluckhead Kitty is going to
20:56
Speaker 1: be on a skilled one to ten buck act adivity.
21:00
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it should bump up to a seven
21:03
Speaker 1: or so over the next week or over the next week.
21:07
Speaker 1: I don't think that it's gonna be anything just crazy,
21:09
Speaker 1: because we're not really We are still a couple of
21:12
Speaker 1: weeks off from the rut in most places. But just
21:17
Speaker 1: the sheer temperatures are going to get them up on
21:19
Speaker 1: their feet, and the fact that's gonna drop down to
21:21
Speaker 1: the low freezing at night and those green fields are
21:23
Speaker 1: gonna frost over. They're gonna get up and try and
21:25
Speaker 1: eat before the frost hits, and then after the frost
21:28
Speaker 1: burns off, you should see some moving around trying to
21:30
Speaker 1: get some stuff too. Well, Adam, I'm envious that the
21:34
Speaker 1: best days of hunting are still to come for you,
21:36
Speaker 1: So good luck to you and the rest of Team
21:38
Speaker 1: Southern Ruts. Appreciate it. Man, have a great guy. Before
21:43
Speaker 1: we get to our next color, they'll let's positive thank
21:45
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21:48
Speaker 1: white Tail Properties, we are joined by Neil Hagger, a
21:51
Speaker 1: land specialist out of Wisconsin, and Neil is going to
21:54
Speaker 1: be telling us about red flags that buyers should be
21:57
Speaker 1: alerted to when looking at a property. Well, the typical
22:01
Speaker 1: answer for that is, you know, the neighborhood is always important.
22:05
Speaker 1: If you have a poor neighborhood, that's not going to
22:07
Speaker 1: be good. But secondly I might add in there, you
22:11
Speaker 1: know the numbers is your are your goals in line
22:13
Speaker 1: with the number of deer that are there? If you're
22:16
Speaker 1: a trophy hunter or not? Are you looking for numbers?
22:19
Speaker 1: You're just looking to have a good time hunting. So
22:20
Speaker 1: those are two important things that you could do your
22:22
Speaker 1: research and basically just find the data and if the
22:25
Speaker 1: data says, you know, tells the story of what you're
22:28
Speaker 1: looking for, then you would buy it. If not, you
22:30
Speaker 1: wouldn't buy it. But two things that people might not
22:32
Speaker 1: think about that I come across on a fairly regular
22:34
Speaker 1: basis or mental rights and perhaps abandoned septics privs, which
22:39
Speaker 1: are outhouses in northern Wisconsin. Abandon wells. These are hazards
22:44
Speaker 1: or potential hazards that are kind of hidden from the
22:46
Speaker 1: average guy. If you don't look into it, you might
22:49
Speaker 1: have yourself a bill to remove those. So if you
22:53
Speaker 1: don't have a budget to take care of the hazards,
22:57
Speaker 1: then be wise maybe to not buy that property. And
23:00
Speaker 1: those are some things I definitely would look for reasons
23:03
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23:13
Speaker 1: That's h A U G E R alright and joining
23:18
Speaker 1: us on the line next is Gerard Ccelli, the owner
23:21
Speaker 1: of rat Getter Sinse now Gerard in New Jersey. What
23:25
Speaker 1: would you say the buck activity has been lately on
23:27
Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten, I would give you
23:29
Speaker 1: one to ten of six. I'm not seeing many many
23:33
Speaker 1: big bucks moving, but there is a second rut going on.
23:37
Speaker 1: That's definitely something that is going on. I had some
23:40
Speaker 1: chasing of a half rack big eight point yesterday, but
23:45
Speaker 1: it's been mostly small box on the move. Uh, consistent
23:48
Speaker 1: movement also daylight and nighttime activity. So with that secondary
23:53
Speaker 1: of rut that you've been seeing, have you seen some
23:57
Speaker 1: more signmaking as far as rubs and scrapes. Yes, a
24:00
Speaker 1: lot of RUPs have been being made, and I have
24:03
Speaker 1: seen and I have footage obviously of using my some
24:06
Speaker 1: of my products and uh activity on scrapes. It's been
24:11
Speaker 1: consistent of small bucks and the appearance of a bigger
24:14
Speaker 1: buck every now and then. But there are hitting scrapes
24:17
Speaker 1: and they're definitely making a lot of rubs right now.
24:20
Speaker 1: Are there any weather fronts coming through that that you
24:23
Speaker 1: are keen too as far as it's going to change
24:25
Speaker 1: any movement in New Jersey? Well, we definitely have a
24:29
Speaker 1: big drop coming. Uh. Temperature wized, it's definitely gonna drop,
24:33
Speaker 1: and maybe in the forecast in a week or so,
24:36
Speaker 1: there is some snow becoming, but definitely going to be
24:39
Speaker 1: a big drop into the twenties, possibly even into the
24:42
Speaker 1: teams depending on the wind. Show. Well, how does gun
24:44
Speaker 1: season change things for you guys? You know, you guys
24:47
Speaker 1: have like a six day season taking place right now.
24:50
Speaker 1: How does that change the dear movement? And have you
24:52
Speaker 1: been hearing of any success with that so far? Oh,
24:55
Speaker 1: there's there's a ton of success out there. Guys have
24:58
Speaker 1: been really taken a lot of bucks, uh during the
25:01
Speaker 1: gun season. Um, it's mostly a lot of early action
25:05
Speaker 1: buck going from feeding to betting area and then there
25:08
Speaker 1: you know, these guys are hunting on edges of fields
25:10
Speaker 1: or things of that nature, and you know they're getting
25:12
Speaker 1: some shots and some good bucks. Um. But there's a
25:16
Speaker 1: lot of movement out there, and mostly due to you know,
25:19
Speaker 1: guys getting in the woods and moving deer around, whether
25:21
Speaker 1: it's walking in or walking out or going to drag
25:24
Speaker 1: out a deer or something, and they're pushing deer around.
25:25
Speaker 1: You're definitely moving especially you know on state property, public
25:29
Speaker 1: property where there's a lot of guys hunting and you
25:31
Speaker 1: know moving around, and cold weather has something to do it, obviously,
25:34
Speaker 1: guys keeping themselves warm and walking around. There's a lot
25:36
Speaker 1: of guys that do ton on the ground. So definitely
25:39
Speaker 1: guys being in the woods definitely pushing the movement in
25:43
Speaker 1: the animal from state property maybe to private properties. And
25:47
Speaker 1: that's kind of what I'm saying. Will you reference food
25:50
Speaker 1: sources a little bit earlier? What are some of your
25:52
Speaker 1: favorite food sources this time of year to focus on
25:54
Speaker 1: in New Jersey? I freshly have a a fresh cut
25:58
Speaker 1: corn field that borders of our properties and there's a
26:01
Speaker 1: lot of movement of of gear in the evening coming
26:05
Speaker 1: through looking the seed. Uh, they could tell, you know,
26:09
Speaker 1: their bodies that their senses definitely can tell that there
26:12
Speaker 1: is a cold front coming on and what type of
26:14
Speaker 1: the year it is. And there's a lot of um
26:17
Speaker 1: black oaks that I'm noticing that are falling, and I
26:20
Speaker 1: have a couple of areas that I'm gonna be hunting
26:21
Speaker 1: over the next few days that have a lot of action.
26:25
Speaker 1: On of these black oaks normally have fallen completely maybe
26:28
Speaker 1: about a month ago or three weeks ago, but they're
26:31
Speaker 1: falling heavily right now in my specific area on quite
26:35
Speaker 1: a few trees, and the ground has just torn up
26:37
Speaker 1: to gear just trying to put on that body fat.
26:40
Speaker 1: You know, there's not a lot of food sources out there,
26:42
Speaker 1: and once they find those trees, they're on them consistently.
26:45
Speaker 1: Do you have any preferences for this time of year
26:48
Speaker 1: as far as early to mid December, is some scent
26:51
Speaker 1: or attracting to be using in the woods. Well, you
26:55
Speaker 1: know this state does allow dating, which you know obviously
26:58
Speaker 1: a lot of guys do take advantage of that. So
27:00
Speaker 1: you know, corn mixed in some of my products, scented
27:03
Speaker 1: products attractives, Uh, corn sweet corn scent pumpkin I've known
27:09
Speaker 1: at this time of the year's if they attracted, whether
27:12
Speaker 1: it be pumpkins or scented pumpkin, uh, which I do
27:15
Speaker 1: make a pumpkin scent, and it really they really like
27:18
Speaker 1: it a lot anything of acorn because it is just
27:21
Speaker 1: very much attractive to them. Uh. They want that body
27:25
Speaker 1: fat on and the lock of that comes from acorn.
27:27
Speaker 1: So once they pick up on that acorn scent, they definitely,
27:30
Speaker 1: you know, want to come in and investigate. We also
27:32
Speaker 1: have our bear season going on at the same time, uh,
27:35
Speaker 1: which makes it a really really unique season because you
27:37
Speaker 1: can hunt bears and deer in the same week. And
27:41
Speaker 1: we have kind of a change of governor, so we're open.
27:42
Speaker 1: Guys are getting out there and hunting because we are
27:45
Speaker 1: bear hunting maybe a thing of the past if this
27:47
Speaker 1: governor has his way with things well going forward, then
27:50
Speaker 1: this next week or so in New Jersey, what would
27:52
Speaker 1: you say the bucket activity is going to be on
27:54
Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten. If you're hunting around
27:57
Speaker 1: food sources, I would imagine you definitely will see some bucks, uh,
28:01
Speaker 1: you know bucks or bigger, bigger bucks or smaller bucks.
28:04
Speaker 1: You know, that's always puts in your area, but you'll
28:06
Speaker 1: definitely see some buck moving around those food sources. As
28:09
Speaker 1: as things get more scarce and colder. UM on rut activity,
28:14
Speaker 1: you'll see some. There's definitely some younger phones or a
28:18
Speaker 1: year and a half that are coming in now, or
28:20
Speaker 1: that are late comers. They're coming in that are definitely
28:23
Speaker 1: going to uh, you know, attract some attention from bucks.
28:26
Speaker 1: And that's like what I've seen yesterday. All right, Gerard, Well,
28:29
Speaker 1: good luck with the rest of your season, and thanks
28:31
Speaker 1: for joining me. I appreciate it, buddy, thank you all
28:35
Speaker 1: in joining us on the line. Last in the great
28:37
Speaker 1: state of South Dakota is Jake. Gregis, a guide with
28:40
Speaker 1: Daybreak Ranch Now. Jake in South Dakota, what would you
28:44
Speaker 1: say the bucket activity has been lately on a scale
28:46
Speaker 1: of one to ten, I'd probably have to say somewhere
28:50
Speaker 1: around two or three. The main ruts tailed off. There's
28:55
Speaker 1: still a few bucks snooping around those, but no no
28:59
Speaker 1: real pursuit or chasing going on, um at least until
29:03
Speaker 1: the secondary rut that should be should be starting up
29:07
Speaker 1: here with a few of the DOE funds coming into Astris.
29:10
Speaker 1: But for the most part, bucks are are on a
29:14
Speaker 1: you know, winter pattern, bed to feed. They're still hanging
29:17
Speaker 1: in with dog groups, but but you don't see them
29:21
Speaker 1: chasing or or really dogging. Does we just reference that
29:25
Speaker 1: secondary rut? Do you have any favorite tactics during the
29:29
Speaker 1: secondary road? Are you still just looking for food like
29:31
Speaker 1: most guys this time of year? Yeah, I would say
29:34
Speaker 1: wherever you get high concentrations, the does too to be
29:39
Speaker 1: checking their uh I see a lot of the bucks
29:43
Speaker 1: hanging with you know, anywhere from five to fifteen does.
29:47
Speaker 1: And they they basically followed the dose from from cover
29:53
Speaker 1: to feed and back in the morning. So they're kinda
29:57
Speaker 1: they're still hanging around and still showing a little interest
29:59
Speaker 1: in in the dos, but but not really it's kind
30:03
Speaker 1: of a winter pattern. And and uh I don't I
30:06
Speaker 1: don't see a lot of bucks off on their own.
30:08
Speaker 1: There's usually a couple of their bucks around them and
30:12
Speaker 1: and then a few dos. Now, a lot of South
30:15
Speaker 1: Dakota just got hit with a winter storm here early
30:18
Speaker 1: this week. How does that change things for betting? That
30:22
Speaker 1: you've see and I know you have a lot of
30:23
Speaker 1: ground to look at and a lot of deer. How
30:26
Speaker 1: does the betting change where they're at now versus where
30:28
Speaker 1: they were a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, So a
30:31
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago we've had a really really good fall.
30:34
Speaker 1: The deer looking really good going into this winter. So
30:37
Speaker 1: the one with the weather being so nice, they don't
30:40
Speaker 1: have to be and get good cover. They can live
30:42
Speaker 1: out in the middle of the old wide open in
30:44
Speaker 1: the prairie and and be totally fine. Um when we
30:48
Speaker 1: get snow and fronts like we did yesterday. We we
30:53
Speaker 1: got about an inch or two of snow and the
30:55
Speaker 1: wind was blowing at times. Right before that front, I
31:00
Speaker 1: actually saw a couple hundred deer on the down wind
31:04
Speaker 1: side of some really good shelter belts and good thermal cover.
31:09
Speaker 1: And I saw about seventy deer in a single file
31:13
Speaker 1: line coming over the hill from a mile or two
31:15
Speaker 1: away headed for that same that same heyyard cover. So, uh,
31:21
Speaker 1: they're bunching up and and they know when those winter
31:24
Speaker 1: storms are coming. So I would say, for you know,
31:27
Speaker 1: it's change from deer being spread out, not if you
31:30
Speaker 1: worried about winter two kind of in the you know,
31:33
Speaker 1: an instant there there in winter mode and and staying
31:38
Speaker 1: close to better cover. Do you think that there are
31:41
Speaker 1: any other big changes from here through the rest of
31:44
Speaker 1: the season which ends in as far as betting and
31:48
Speaker 1: food or do you think what you're going to see
31:50
Speaker 1: that you're doing now is going to be the same
31:52
Speaker 1: thing that they're doing three weeks from now. I think
31:56
Speaker 1: it'll be similar at least around here. You know, this
32:00
Speaker 1: isn't really a hard winter, you know, winter weather right now,
32:04
Speaker 1: and the deer don't need to really be near thick
32:08
Speaker 1: cover necessarily. You know, the sun will come out in
32:11
Speaker 1: a day or two, and and yeah there might be
32:13
Speaker 1: an inch of snow on the ground, but but that's
32:16
Speaker 1: nothing for South Dakota or or you know, northern deer,
32:20
Speaker 1: So they'll spread out again a little bit until the
32:24
Speaker 1: next big front um. But I don't see any big
32:28
Speaker 1: changes really other than some of these dough fonds might
32:32
Speaker 1: become an industrious so you might see a little more
32:34
Speaker 1: activity of bucks, maybe cruising a little bit looking for
32:39
Speaker 1: some of them, you know, down windsides of betting areas,
32:42
Speaker 1: or are still really following dos along instead of branching
32:47
Speaker 1: off on their own and doing their own thing yet.
32:49
Speaker 1: So otherwise I would say pretty similar to this, unless
32:53
Speaker 1: we get a real wicked storm or something I see
32:57
Speaker 1: it kind of staying the same. I looked at the
33:00
Speaker 1: the extended forecast and it looks like thirties every day,
33:04
Speaker 1: maybe forty a few days. So um, you know, it's
33:09
Speaker 1: not real what I would say, the bad winter weather yet,
33:12
Speaker 1: so they'll be spread out again going forward then this
33:16
Speaker 1: next week or still, what do you think that bucket
33:18
Speaker 1: activity is going to be on a scale of one
33:20
Speaker 1: to ten in South Dakota. I would say it's going
33:23
Speaker 1: to be right around that two or three again with
33:25
Speaker 1: maybe you know, a few days in there, or it
33:28
Speaker 1: might spike up to four or five if if there
33:31
Speaker 1: are enough of those doll funds coming investrious for this
33:34
Speaker 1: you'd call a secondary rut. You know, certain areas you
33:38
Speaker 1: might see a lot of it. Some places you might
33:41
Speaker 1: not see anything, for for bucks showing interest in doose
33:45
Speaker 1: and and just focus on hunting food sources and and
33:50
Speaker 1: betting and back and forth. Alright, Jake, Well, good luck
33:54
Speaker 1: with that remaining muzzle or tag, and thanks for joining me.
33:58
Speaker 1: All right, thanks Spencer, appreciate it. And that concludes this
34:02
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34:15
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34:18
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