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Mega Edition: Gary Ridgway And The Green River Murders (Part 13-16) (9/21/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the program. In
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Speaker 1: this episode, we're going to continue on taking a look
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Speaker 1: at the unmasking of Gary Ridgway. 2. Jane Doe, B10
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Speaker 1: On March 21st, 1984, a dog belonging to the Highline
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Speaker 1: Baseball Field caretaker brought home a human femur. The caretaker
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Speaker 1: called police and a search began of a swampy wooded
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Speaker 1: area behind center field at the western most baseball diamond.
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Speaker 1: just west of the intersection of the 16th Avenue South
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Speaker 1: and South 146th Street. This was one-half mile from where
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Speaker 1: Ridgway killed Shonda Summers and dumped her body in October
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Speaker 1: of 1982. Over the next few days, police recovered the
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Speaker 1: skeletal remains of Jane Doe B-10. As searching began on
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Speaker 1: the second day, a bloodhound found the remains of yet
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Speaker 1: a third victim, Cheryl Wims, 200 yards to the north
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Speaker 1: of the crime scene. Repeated attempts by investigators to identify
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Speaker 1: Jane Doe B-10 have been unsuccessful. To this day, the
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Speaker 1: identity of Jane Doe B-10 remains a mystery. A forensic
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Speaker 1: anthropologist concluded that the remains were those of a left-handed
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Speaker 1: Caucasian female. She stood about 5'2 to 5'7 and had
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Speaker 1: a healed fracture in her skull. She was about 15
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Speaker 1: years old. On the first day of interviews with task
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Speaker 1: force detectives, Ridgway admitted killing a woman near the baseball
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Speaker 1: fields off Des Moines Way. He thought she was Caucasian
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Speaker 1: in her early 20s and had brown hair. He thought
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Speaker 1: he picked her up in the Riverton, Tukwila area. He
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Speaker 1: said he killed her during the day and wanted to
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Speaker 1: make certain she was dead because he had attempted to
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Speaker 1: kill another woman nearby, but she had escaped. This woman
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Speaker 1: was never identified. Over the course of interviews, Ridgway made
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Speaker 1: contradictory statements about whether he returned to have sex with
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Speaker 1: the unidentified woman's corpse. Police took Ridgeway to the North
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Speaker 1: Airport site in June 2003. After some initial confusion, he
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Speaker 1: pointed to the area where Jane Doe B-10 was found. 3.
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Speaker 1: Cheryl Wims Approximately seven months after Ridgeway killed Shonda Summers,
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Speaker 1: on May 23, 1983, Cheryl Wims disappeared from the streets
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Speaker 1: of Central Seattle near Judkins Playground. According to her friends,
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Speaker 1: she was involved with prostitution. She would also frequently hitchhike
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Speaker 1: and was not particularly careful about the people from whom
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Speaker 1: she accepted rides. Cheryl Wims was murdered on her birthday.
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Speaker 1: She had just turned 18. Ridgway was on strike from
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Speaker 1: Kenworth during May of 1983. He was very active. He
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Speaker 1: killed a number of other women during that month, including
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Speaker 1: Carol Christensen, Carrie Royce, Martina Authorly, and Yvonne Antosh. On
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Speaker 1: March 22, 1984, police discovered Cheryl's remains a few hundred
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Speaker 1: feet from Jane Doe B, 10, and one-half mile from
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Speaker 1: Shonda Summers. In 2003, Ridgway first claimed that he dumped
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Speaker 1: only one victim near the baseball fields near Des Moines.
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Speaker 1: This was Jane Doe B, 10. After a task force
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Speaker 1: detective informed Ridgway that there was a second body found
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Speaker 1: at the ball fields, he admitted that he did not
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Speaker 1: keep track of the number of victims that he killed there.
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Speaker 1: Detectives took him to the dump site. Bridgeway said the
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Speaker 1: visit had jogged his memory and admitted that he had
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Speaker 1: killed and left another woman near the baseball fields. Bridgeway
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Speaker 1: later recalled walking with a prostitute on the blacktop road
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Speaker 1: just north of the ball field, stopping at a spot
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Speaker 1: off the road and killing her there. Aerial photos of
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Speaker 1: the crime scene from March of 1984 show a paved
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Speaker 1: road slightly north of the baseball field running east to west.
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Speaker 1: Cheryl was found underneath a large spruce tree just off
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Speaker 1: this road. When shown these photos, Ridgway correctly identified where
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Speaker 1: Cheryl's body had been found. Ridgway said, The woman was white,
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Speaker 1: Cheryl was light-skinned African-American, but he was unable to remember
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Speaker 1: anything specific about her. As with virtually all the victims,
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Speaker 1: Ridgway claimed not to recognize Cheryl's photograph. He explained that
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Speaker 1: after killing 60 women, he could not describe her. He
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Speaker 1: had a better memory for garbage that he noticed strewn
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Speaker 1: along the road while walking with his victims than for
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Speaker 1: the woman that he killed. In the fall of 2003, Microtrace,
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Speaker 1: a nationally renowned private forensic laboratory, reported that paint fragments
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Speaker 1: recovered with Cheryl's remains were indistinguishable even after multiple analysis
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Speaker 1: from paint recovered with the remains of Dolores Williams, disappeared
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Speaker 1: March of 1983, found at Star Lake. and Tina Thompson
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Speaker 1: disappeared July of 1983, found at Highway 18. G. Colleen
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Speaker 1: Brockman On December 24, 1982, Colleen Brockman, a frequent runaway
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Speaker 1: involved in prostitution, made plans to meet an acquaintance near
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Speaker 1: the Greyhound Bus Depot in downtown Seattle. Colleen and her
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Speaker 1: friend had checked into a motel in downtown Seattle the
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Speaker 1: night before. They last spoke to one another around 9 a.m.
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Speaker 1: On Christmas Eve, and had planned to meet around noon.
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Speaker 1: She never showed. Colleen was 15. A year and a
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Speaker 1: half later, on May 26, 1984, three youths found Colleen's
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Speaker 1: remains near Jovita Boulevard in North Pierce County. The King
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Speaker 1: County Medical Examiner confirmed Colleen's identity through dental records. Her
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Speaker 1: braces were still on her teeth. Colleen's remains were found
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Speaker 1: about 10 yards north from Jovita Boulevard in thick undergrowth.
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Speaker 1: The remains were between the boulevard and a creek that
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Speaker 1: paralleled the road. Also near Colleen's body was a ditch
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Speaker 1: that carried water from a culvert that passed underneath Jovita Boulevard.
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Speaker 1: A piece of broken concrete culvert approximately 24 inches in
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Speaker 1: diameter and 3 feet long was nearby. In 2003, Ridgeway
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Speaker 1: admitted he killed the 16-year-old girl in Seattle around Christmas
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Speaker 1: and dumped her body near Jovita Boulevard. He incorrectly identified
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Speaker 1: the year, saying he believed he killed her in 83.
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Speaker 1: It was Christmas Eve of 82. Ridgway recalled that Colleen
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Speaker 1: was white and that she had about $ 20 on her.
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Speaker 1: Detectives showed Ridgway a photo of Colleen, and he said
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Speaker 1: he remembered the face and was 80 to 90% certain
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Speaker 1: that it was the girl whom he killed and dumped
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Speaker 1: near Jovita Boulevard. He said he could not recall whether
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Speaker 1: she wore braces. Ridgway said he picked up Colleen in
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Speaker 1: downtown Seattle and north of Chinatown, and killed her in
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Speaker 1: the back of his truck. He remembered that as he
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Speaker 1: strangled her, she begged for her life. He told her,
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Speaker 1: don't fight, I'm not going to let you go. Then
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Speaker 1: he'll put his foot into her neck and finish killing her.
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Speaker 1: Ridgway said he drove to Jovita Boulevard, parked, and pulled
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Speaker 1: the body 20 feet off the road. He recalled the
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Speaker 1: culverts passing under Jovita Boulevard and described it as a
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Speaker 1: 24-inch tunnel. In June 2003, Ridgway led detectives to the
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Speaker 1: Jovita Boulevard site. According to detectives accompanying him on this trip,
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Speaker 1: Ridgway was able to direct them to within 150 feet
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Speaker 1: of where Colleen's remains were found. H. The Mountain View
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Speaker 1: Cemetery Victims Kimi Kai Pitzer, Jane Doe B-16, and Jane
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Speaker 1: Doe B-17 1. Kimi Kai Pitzer On December 14, 1983,
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Speaker 1: a man walking along Mountain View Drive made a frightening find,
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Speaker 1: a human skull. The skull was lying on along the
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Speaker 1: shoulder of the road. Beneath the skull was a pile
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Speaker 1: of leaves, yet none covered the top, suggesting that the
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Speaker 1: skull had only recently come in that location. The man
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Speaker 1: called the police. Extensive investigation followed, and an identification was made.
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Speaker 1: It was Kimi Kai Pitzer. Eight months earlier, in April
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Speaker 1: of 1983, 16-year-old Kimi Kai disappeared. She was last known
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Speaker 1: to have been in downtown Seattle with her boyfriend. According
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Speaker 1: to her boyfriend, he and Kimi Kai had had a
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Speaker 1: disagreement over their relationship, and she ran off and jumped
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Speaker 1: into an older green Ford pickup truck. The boyfriend hinted
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Speaker 1: that Kimmy Kai was intending to engage in prostitution with
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Speaker 1: the driver of the truck. He waited in the area
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Speaker 1: for her to return, but he never saw her again.
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Speaker 1: After her skull was found, task force detectives were dispatched
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Speaker 1: to the scene, determined that the skull was found some
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Speaker 1: two feet inside the King County line, and assumed responsibility
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Speaker 1: for the case. By that time, December of 1983, the
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Speaker 1: local law enforcement agencies were fully aware that a serial
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Speaker 1: killer was working in the area, targeting prostitutes and leaving
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Speaker 1: their bodies in remote outdoor areas. Despite a further search
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Speaker 1: of the area, no additional bones were found. Two years later,
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Speaker 1: in December of 1985, the rest of Kimmy Kai's remains
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Speaker 1: were discovered, along with the remains of two other victims,
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Speaker 1: in a dump site down a steep slope across the
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Speaker 1: Mountain View Cemetery. Kimikai's case was added to a growing
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Speaker 1: number of victims of the Green River Killer. Her case, however,
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Speaker 1: was different. A witness might have seen the killer. Kimikai's
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Speaker 1: boyfriend provided detectives with a description of the man last
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Speaker 1: seen with her. In 1987, when the task force detectives
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Speaker 1: began focusing on Ridgeway as a suspect, the boyfriend was
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Speaker 1: shown a photographic montage that included Ridgeway's photograph. With some uncertainty,
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Speaker 1: the boyfriend identified Ridgeway as the man driving the pickup
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Speaker 1: truck However, he qualified his identification. He was not a
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Speaker 1: thousand percent sure. Moreover, none of Ridgway's trucks matched the
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Speaker 1: description of the truck seen by the boyfriend. In June 2003,
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Speaker 1: Ridgway admitted killing Kimmy Kai. He said that he had
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Speaker 1: picked her up in his girlfriend's truck. Ridgway's girlfriend at
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Speaker 1: the time owned a light green colored 1970s Ford pickup
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Speaker 1: truck with a silver canopy. Ridgway had a fairly clear
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Speaker 1: memory of the events surrounding the murder of Kimmy Kai.
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Speaker 1: On the night he killed her, Ridgway said, he was
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Speaker 1: frustrated because he had a strong desire to kill a
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Speaker 1: woman and couldn't find one. When he spotted Kimmy Kai,
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Speaker 1: he also saw her boyfriend. Ridgway said he was so
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Speaker 1: desperate for a kill that he broke his cardinal rule.
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Speaker 1: Never pick up a victim in the presence of a witness.
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Speaker 1: Ridgway said, he drove around the corner and as he
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Speaker 1: had hoped, Kimmy Kai came to his truck. He said
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Speaker 1: she agreed to date him at his house in South
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Speaker 1: Seattle after he promised that he would drive her back
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Speaker 1: downtown after the date. This was a hollow promise. There's
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Speaker 1: no way I'm going to waste my time having sex
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Speaker 1: with her. pay her $ 40 or $ 30 or $ 60 or
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Speaker 1: whatever and then drive her all the way back to Seattle,
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Speaker 1: that's something I wouldn't do. I would get her there
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Speaker 1: and kill her. I'm not going to waste my money
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Speaker 1: driving all the way back. True to his priorities, Ridgway
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Speaker 1: said he had sex with Kimmy Kai at his house,
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Speaker 1: killed her, put her body in the truck, drove to
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Speaker 1: Mountain View Cemetery, and dumped her body. Ridgway provided conflicting
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Speaker 1: explanations for the discovery of Kimmy Kai's skull by the
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Speaker 1: side of the road in December of 1983. First, Ridgway
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Speaker 1: suggested that he picked up her skull intending to take
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Speaker 1: it to Oregon with the remains of Denise Bush and
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Speaker 1: Shirley Sherrill. While retrieving Kimikai's skull, Ridgway said he dropped
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Speaker 1: it and could not find it in the dark. Later
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Speaker 1: in interviews, Ridgway acknowledged that he had not intended to
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Speaker 1: take the skull to Oregon, but he had moved it
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Speaker 1: simply to throw off the police. After retrieving the skull,
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Speaker 1: he said he accidentally dropped it while making his way
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Speaker 1: back up the steep hillside. When he tried to locate
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Speaker 1: the skull, his flashlight batteries died. Although he felt around
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Speaker 1: on the ground, he could not find the skull. Eventually,
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Speaker 1: Ridgway said he gave up the effort and he left.
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Speaker 1: Questioned further about his motives for moving the skull, Ridgway
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Speaker 1: explained that if the skull was found in a place
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Speaker 1: like someone's yard, the task force would waste time and
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Speaker 1: manpower searching the area for the remaining missing bones. They'll
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Speaker 1: waste all kinds of man hours thinking the rest of
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Speaker 1: the body's in there. Alright, we're going to wrap up
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Speaker 1: this episode here, and in the next episode we're going
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Speaker 1: to pick up with two... Jane Doe, B-16, and Jane Doe, B-17.
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Speaker 1: All of the information that goes with this episode can
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Speaker 1: be found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and
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Speaker 1: welcome back to the program. In this episode, we're going
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Speaker 1: to continue on unmasking Gary Ridgway, the Green River Killer,
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Speaker 1: to Jane Doe, B-16, and Jane Doe, B-17. On December 30th, 1985,
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Speaker 1: two years after Kimmy Kai's skull was found, Task force
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Speaker 1: detectives returned to Mountain View Drive. A car had gone
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Speaker 1: off the road and down a steep embankment several hundred
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Speaker 1: yards from the place where Kimmy Kai's skull had been found.
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Speaker 1: Two men employed at the cemetery went down to look
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Speaker 1: at this wrecked car and discovered what appeared to be
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Speaker 1: human bones. When the task force detectives arrived, they immediately
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Speaker 1: realized that this was another dump site. The bones found
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Speaker 1: by the cemetery workers were obviously not those of Kimmy
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Speaker 1: Kai Pitzer they found another skull. For the next week,
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Speaker 1: detectives scoured the hillside in search of further evidence. When
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Speaker 1: the search was over, they had found a total of
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Speaker 1: three sets of skeletal remains. One of the remains proved
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Speaker 1: by radiographic examination to be the rest of Kimikai Pitzer.
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Speaker 1: The other two bodies, despite extensive efforts, remain unidentified. They
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Speaker 1: have been designated Jane Doe B-16 and Jane Doe B-17.
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Speaker 1: Although the skeletal remains are have not been identified, both
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Speaker 1: were young women. A forensic anthropologist's examination revealed that Jane Doe, B-16,
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Speaker 1: was an African-American woman believed between the age of 20
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Speaker 1: and 25. She was approximately 5'1 to 5'4 tall. Her
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Speaker 1: body had been placed along a large fallen log. Some
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Speaker 1: 40 to 50 feet uphill, east from Jane Doe, B-16,
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Speaker 1: were the remains of Jane Doe, B-17. She was lying
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Speaker 1: at the foot of a very large rotten stump on
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Speaker 1: the peak of a ridge. The forensic anthropologist concluded that
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Speaker 1: she was Caucasian, between 5'4 and 5'8 tall. She was
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Speaker 1: between 14 and 17 years old. 250 yards away to
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Speaker 1: the west of these two young women, detectives found the
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Speaker 1: remains of Kimikai Pitzer. She was located about 100 yards
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Speaker 1: from Mountain View Drive and approximately 100 yards from where
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Speaker 1: her skull was found. Over the course of the next
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Speaker 1: 15 years, numerous attempts were made to identify the two
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Speaker 1: young women found along Mountain View Drive. Leads relating to
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Speaker 1: Kimmy Kai's disappearance were likewise investigated, but never led any
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Speaker 1: further than the tentative identification of defendant Ridgeway. The cases
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Speaker 1: remained open but cold. In 2003, as recounted in previous section,
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Speaker 1: Ridgeway admitted murdering Kimmy Kai Pitzer and dumping her at
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Speaker 1: the Mountain View site. When he was questioned about the
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Speaker 1: other two unidentified remains, he claimed that he could not
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Speaker 1: recall any specifics about them, other than to say that
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Speaker 1: he thought he killed one of the women before Kimmy
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Speaker 1: Kai and one after her. Ridgway said that he staggered
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Speaker 1: their bodies along the hillside, which was consistent with the
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Speaker 1: way the remains were found. Ridgway was asked why and
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Speaker 1: how he chose the Mountain View site. He said that
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Speaker 1: he drove up the road and thought there was a
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Speaker 1: fantastic bank of trees, just an excellent place to dump
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Speaker 1: a woman, and I can see ahead when I drop
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Speaker 1: her off. According to his ex-wife, Ridgeway knew the road well.
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Speaker 1: During their marriage, the couple lived in the Twin Lakes
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Speaker 1: area and Ridgeway drove past the cemetery on his way
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Speaker 1: to work at the Kenworth plant. Investigators asked Ridgeway to
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Speaker 1: direct them to the location where he placed the bodies
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Speaker 1: at Mountain View. Ridgeway did so and identified the precise
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Speaker 1: location where the investigators found the three sets of remains.
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Speaker 1: Ridgeway correctly recalled that he placed two of the bodies
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Speaker 1: closer together and a third some distance away. I. Marie
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Speaker 1: Malvar In April of 1983, Marie Malvar lived in Des Moines,
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Speaker 1: King County. On April 30, 1983, she went out to
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Speaker 1: PHS to work as a prostitute. Marie's boyfriend saw her
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Speaker 1: get into a dark-colored pickup truck occupied by a single
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Speaker 1: adult male driver at a bus stop near 7-Eleven Store
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Speaker 1: at South 216th and PHS. After Marie got into the truck,
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Speaker 1: the boyfriend got in his car and followed the truck
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Speaker 1: as it traveled northbound on PHS. The truck pulled over
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Speaker 1: into a motel parking lot, turned around, and headed southbound
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Speaker 1: on PHS. The truck then turned left going eastbound onto
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Speaker 1: South 216th. The boyfriend lost track of the truck at
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Speaker 1: that intersection. Marie was never seen again. She was 18.
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Speaker 1: The intersection at South 216th and PHS where her boyfriend
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Speaker 1: last saw Marie In a pickup heading eastbound is exactly where,
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Speaker 1: just a few weeks earlier, on April 8th, 1983, Gail
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Speaker 1: Matthews' boyfriend saw her for the last time. Exactly like Marie,
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Speaker 1: Gail was in a pickup truck heading eastbound on South 216th.
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Speaker 1: At the time, Ridgeway lived one block south of 216th
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Speaker 1: off of Military Road. Military Road is east of PHS.
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Speaker 1: Ridgeway lived a little more than half a mile from
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Speaker 1: the intersection where Gail and Marie were last seen. and
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Speaker 1: South 216th is the most direct route to Ridgeway's house
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Speaker 1: from that section of PHS. Three days later, on May 3rd, 1983,
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Speaker 1: Marie's boyfriend reported to the Des Moines police that she
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Speaker 1: was missing. Initially, he lied to the police, reporting that
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Speaker 1: he had last seen Marie at their residence and that
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Speaker 1: she was on her way to a phone booth on PHS.
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Speaker 1: The next day, on May 4th, 1983, the boyfriend admitted
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Speaker 1: that he knew Marie was working as a prostitute and
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Speaker 1: that he last saw her being picked up by a trick.
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Speaker 1: He described the trick as a 42-year-old Mexican or Indian
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Speaker 1: male driving a black pickup truck. Later that day, the
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Speaker 1: boyfriend returned to the police station and reported that he
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Speaker 1: had searched the neighborhoods South 216th and PHS and thought
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Speaker 1: he had found the truck that Marie had entered. The
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Speaker 1: truck was Ridgeway's maroon 1975 Dodge pickup. When Marie's boyfriend
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Speaker 1: saw the truck, it was parked outside Ridgeway's house at
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Speaker 1: 21-859-32nd Place South. Two Des Moines detectives went to Ridgway's
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Speaker 1: residence that day. The detectives noticed Ridgway's Dodge pickup in
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Speaker 1: the driveway and contacted him. He admitted that he had
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Speaker 1: been arrested for picking up prostitutes in the past, but
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Speaker 1: denied picking up Marie. He also claimed that he had
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Speaker 1: been unemployed for the last year. Ridgway was actually on
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Speaker 1: strike from Kenworth. Several weeks later, on May 27, 1983,
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Speaker 1: an airport worker discovered Marie's driver's license at the Sea-Tac Airport.
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Speaker 1: In the years following Marie's disappearance, As in the cases
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Speaker 1: of many of Ridgeway's victims, there were many reported sightings
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Speaker 1: of her. Tips came in that Marie had moved to
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Speaker 1: Hawaii and dyed her hair blonde or that she was
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Speaker 1: working in Hollywood. In February of 1985, her family reported
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Speaker 1: that they had heard the rumors that she was in Hollywood,
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Speaker 1: Long Beach, or Tacoma and expressed their belief that she
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Speaker 1: was still alive. In 1986, one tipster claimed to have
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Speaker 1: been with one of Marie's brothers when Marie had called
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Speaker 1: from California. Despite investigation, None of these tips were ever confirmed.
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Speaker 1: Marie's boyfriend later provided several statements concerning Marie's last days
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Speaker 1: and even went under hypnosis by a psychiatrist retained by
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Speaker 1: the task force in an effort to recall additional details
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Speaker 1: about the man in the truck. None of that later
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Speaker 1: description or details provided any further connection to Ridgeway. In 2003,
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Speaker 1: Ridgeway admitted killing Marie. He said he picked her up,
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Speaker 1: drove her to his house, and killed her there. Ridgway
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Speaker 1: said that Marie fought him, scratching him badly and leaving
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Speaker 1: scars on his inner left arm that are still visible today.
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Speaker 1: Ridgway recalled that he was so worried about the scratches
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Speaker 1: when the Des Moines detectives came to his house on
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Speaker 1: May 4, 1983. He said he stood against the fence
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Speaker 1: of his yard to conceal them from the police. Ridgway
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Speaker 1: later attempted to disguise the scratches by burning his arm
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Speaker 1: with battery acid. Ridgway first claimed that he received the
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Speaker 1: scar from some pimps but quickly retracted this lie. Ridgway
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Speaker 1: admitted taking Marie's driver's license and putting it on the
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Speaker 1: floor in the airport. He said he did so to
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Speaker 1: make it look like she had left the state. Ridgway
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Speaker 1: claimed he dumped Marie's body on the same day he
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Speaker 1: killed her. He had planned to place her body near
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Speaker 1: Mountain View Cemetery. He was on his way there when
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Speaker 1: he says he saw an area that looked like a
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Speaker 1: good place to dump a body. He left Marie's body
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Speaker 1: in a wooded ravine near 65th Avenue south in Auburn.
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Speaker 1: Ridgway said he parked his truck, pulled Marie's body out,
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Speaker 1: reparked the truck a short distance away, and pulled her
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Speaker 1: body 20 to 30 feet into the ravine. After the
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Speaker 1: Des Moines detectives' visit to his house on May 4, 1983,
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Speaker 1: Ridgway said, he went back to the site to bury
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Speaker 1: Marie's body. He spent about three hours unsuccessfully looking for her.
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Speaker 1: He then planted leaflets from airport motels around the area
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Speaker 1: so that Ridgway explained if the body was found, the
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Speaker 1: task force might think that someone like a traveling salesman
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Speaker 1: was involved in the murder. Ridgway never again returned to
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Speaker 1: the site because soon thereafter, he saw a co-worker driving
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Speaker 1: in the area and learned that the co-worker resided nearby.
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Speaker 1: He insisted that he did not put any more bodies
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Speaker 1: in the area because he knew after the Des Moines
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Speaker 1: detective's visit that he was linked, however tenuously, to Marie
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Speaker 1: Malvar's disappearance. Task Force detectives spent several days searching the
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Speaker 1: area identified by Ridgeway. On September 28th and 29th, 2003,
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Speaker 1: they recovered over 60 human bones, including the skull and mandible.
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Speaker 1: A ligature was found with the bones and Dental records
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Speaker 1: confirmed the remains are those of Marie Malvar. The ligature
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Speaker 1: appears to be a woman's pantyhose. It was found near
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Speaker 1: several neck vertebraes. J. The Highway 410 Victims Martina Autherley,
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Speaker 1: Debbie Abernathy, Mary Bello, Pammy Avant, Roberta Hayes, and Marta
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Speaker 1: Reeves In the early 1980s, the task force discovered the
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Speaker 1: bodies of three women along a short rural stretch of
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Speaker 1: Highway 410. Investigators soon realized that they had discovered another
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Speaker 1: dump site. Several years later, after the Green River Killer
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Speaker 1: had purportedly stopped killing, the bodies of more women were
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Speaker 1: found along the same stretch of highway. Ridgeway did not
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Speaker 1: stop killing in 1984, and he did not stop using
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Speaker 1: Highway 410 as his dumping ground. In fact, he continued
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Speaker 1: to use 410 after the dump site was discovered. Ridgeway
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Speaker 1: has admitted killing two women never attributed to the Green
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Speaker 1: River Killer, one in 1987 and one in 1990. and
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Speaker 1: placing their bodies along Highway 410. In August of 2003,
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Speaker 1: Ridgeway led the task force to an area along Highway
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Speaker 1: 410 where they recovered the remains of an original Green
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Speaker 1: River missing victim, Pammy Avant. She disappeared in 1983. Alright,
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Speaker 1: we're going to wrap up right here, and in the
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Speaker 1: next episode, dealing with the topic, we're going to pick
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Speaker 1: up with 1. Highway 410. All of the information that
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Speaker 1: goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
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Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the program. In
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Speaker 1: this episode, we're gonna continue on with the unmasking of
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Speaker 1: Gary Ridgeway, aka the Green River Killer. One, Highway 410.
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Speaker 1: Highway 410 generally runs in an east-west direction between the
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Speaker 1: cities of Tacoma and Yakima, Washington. A 16-mile stretch of
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Speaker 1: the highway runs through King County between the towns of
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Speaker 1: Enumclaw and Greenwater. The stretch begins at mile post 26
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Speaker 1: just east of the Amoclaw City limits and ends at
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Speaker 1: milepost 42, just west of the town of Greenwater. The
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Speaker 1: terrain along this stretch of highway is hilly and heavily wooded,
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Speaker 1: alternating between thick underbrush and large evergreen forests. A well-developed
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Speaker 1: gravel road known as the Weyerhaeuser Mainline runs just south
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Speaker 1: and parallel to this entire 16-mile stretch of 410. The
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Speaker 1: White River runs south and parallel to the Weyer... Houser
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Speaker 1: Main Line, and serves as the border between King and
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Speaker 1: Pierce Counties, up to the town of Greenwater. Dozens of
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Speaker 1: gravel and dirt logging roads spur off of the highway
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Speaker 1: and the main line throughout the 16-mile stretch. Ridgeway was
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Speaker 1: extremely familiar with this 16-mile stretch of Highway 410. During
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Speaker 1: interviews with the task force in 1987, Ridgeway's second wife
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Speaker 1: told detectives that Ridgeway regularly traveled the stretch of Highway 410,
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Speaker 1: between the towns of Emondclaw and Greenwater. She said Ridgway
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Speaker 1: camped in the Greenwater area many times. Ridgway later confirmed
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Speaker 1: that he was familiar with Highway 410. He told detectives
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Speaker 1: that he could remember freely traveling the forest access roads,
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Speaker 1: roads that were later blocked when he returned to the sites.
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Speaker 1: Ridgway also stated that he and his third wife camped
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Speaker 1: in the Greenwater area throughout the 1980s and the 1990s.
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Speaker 1: In 2003, before the task force interviewed him, Ridgeway prepared
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Speaker 1: several documents that purported to detail the victims he left
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Speaker 1: along Highway 410. Ridgeway listed eight victims at different locations
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Speaker 1: on this map. All but one of these victims was
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Speaker 1: placed along the southern edge of Highway 410 between the
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Speaker 1: highway and the Weyerhaeuser mainline. Once the task force began
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Speaker 1: interviewing Ridgeway, he provided additional details about the killing and
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Speaker 1: dumping of as many as 11 victims along Highway 410.
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Speaker 1: He was taken on many trips to point out the
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Speaker 1: actual dump sites of the victims that had already been
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Speaker 1: found and to locate missing remains. To date, the remains
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Speaker 1: of six women murdered by Gary Ridgway have been recovered
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Speaker 1: from Highway 410. 2. Martina Authorly Martina Authorly disappeared on
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Speaker 1: the night of Sunday, May 22, 1983. Martina had a
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Speaker 1: troubled childhood, which included time in foster homes, and several
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Speaker 1: encounters with law enforcement. At 15, Martina ran away from
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Speaker 1: home and into a life of prostitution. She was murdered
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Speaker 1: when she was 18. In early May of 1983, police
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Speaker 1: arrested Martina for prostitution in downtown Seattle. After her arrest,
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Speaker 1: Martina moved into the Moonrise Hotel Motel on PHS in Tukwila.
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Speaker 1: Like victims Terry Milgan and Denise Bush, Martina was living
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Speaker 1: at the Moonrise at the time of her death. On
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Speaker 1: May 22, 1983, Martina and a fellow prostitute left the
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Speaker 1: Moonrise Motel to work PHS. After working the highway separately
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Speaker 1: for a period of time, her companion last spoke with
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Speaker 1: Martina in front of the My Place Tavern sometime between
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Speaker 1: 10pm and 1am. Martina told her companion that a date
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Speaker 1: was picking her up in 20 minutes. The woman left
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Speaker 1: Martina standing in front of the tavern. Martina was never
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Speaker 1: seen again. Ridgeway did not work on the day of
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Speaker 1: Martina's disappearance. According to financial records, Ridgeway was in South
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Speaker 1: County selling items at a swap meet. On November 14, 1984,
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Speaker 1: two elk hunters discovered Martina's remains just off Highway 410
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Speaker 1: near a milepost 36. The remains were found on the
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Speaker 1: southern side of the highway just before a curve near
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Speaker 1: a fallen cedar log. In 2003, Ridgeway... admitted killing Martina.
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Speaker 1: Although he claimed that he could not identify her or
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Speaker 1: recall any details of her murder, Ridgway accurately described her
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Speaker 1: physical appearance. He remembered that she was African-American, 5'7 or 5'8,
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Speaker 1: and full-figured. He claimed that he picked her up one
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Speaker 1: night between 1982 and 1984 and that he killed her
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Speaker 1: in his house. Ridgway correctly described the area where Martina
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Speaker 1: was found. Ridgway drew several maps that purported to depict
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Speaker 1: where he dumped victims along Highway 410. On the maps,
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Speaker 1: he described Martina as a black lady buried next to
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Speaker 1: a log. He wrote that he placed her body at
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Speaker 1: the eastern end of the stretch of highway, very close
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Speaker 1: to a large southeasterly curve in the roadway. His map
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Speaker 1: correctly showed the road, the location of the log in
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Speaker 1: relation to the road, and the correct position of the
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Speaker 1: log and Martina's body. Ridgeway also said that he pulled
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Speaker 1: Martina's body 60 to 100 feet off of the roadway
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Speaker 1: over a fallen redwood log that was approximately three feet
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Speaker 1: in diameter. His description not only matched the geographic location
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Speaker 1: of Martina's remains, he even knew the diameter of the
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Speaker 1: log near her body. Number three, Debbie Mae Abernathy. Debbie
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Speaker 1: Mae Abernathy moved to Seattle from Texas with her boyfriend
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Speaker 1: and their young son, just four weeks prior to her disappearance.
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Speaker 1: During that period of time, Debbie worked as a prostitute,
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Speaker 1: mainly at the corner of 8th and Pike in downtown Seattle.
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Speaker 1: On September 5th, 1983, at approximately 1 p.m., Debbie left
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Speaker 1: her residence near Rainier Avenue, south of Seattle, to work
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Speaker 1: the downtown area as a prostitute. Her longtime boyfriend never
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Speaker 1: saw her again. She was 26. On the day of
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Speaker 1: Debbie's disappearance, Ridgeway was off work due to the Labor
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Speaker 1: Day holiday. He gassed up his truck, withdrew cash from
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Speaker 1: an ATM machine the day Debbie disappeared. On March 31, 1984,
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Speaker 1: an elk hunter discovered Debbie's skeletal remains approximately. 2 miles
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Speaker 1: east of Milepost 37 on Highway 410. The remains were
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Speaker 1: found next to the Weyerhaeuser Main Line near the White River.
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Speaker 1: During interviews in 2003, Ridgeway admitted killing Debbie. Although Ridgeway
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Speaker 1: claimed that he could not identify her, he gave the
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Speaker 1: task force specific details of her dump site. Ridgway told
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Speaker 1: the task force that he carried a victim into the
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Speaker 1: woods from Highway 410 and placed her very close to
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Speaker 1: the main line, so close that he could see it.
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Speaker 1: He correctly recalled that Debbie was one of the first
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Speaker 1: women dumped along 410. He said he hoped placing her
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Speaker 1: next to the main line would confuse the police into
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Speaker 1: thinking she was an employee. Although Ridgeway struggled to identify
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Speaker 1: the exact location of the dump site when taking a
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Speaker 1: Highway 410, he accurately described the gated entrance nearby that
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Speaker 1: led to the location on the Weyerheiser main line where
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Speaker 1: Debbie was found. He also correctly recalled the terrain between
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Speaker 1: the two roadways. He described the difficulty he had taking
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Speaker 1: her body into the woods. Ridgeway admitted that he threw
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Speaker 1: the driver's license of one of the victims out of
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Speaker 1: his truck window while traveling on Highway 18. Debbie's Texas
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Speaker 1: driver's license was found along Highway 18 in 1983. As
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Speaker 1: with many of his victims, Ridgway claimed to remember little,
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Speaker 1: if anything, about killing Debbie. When reminded that her disappearance
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Speaker 1: fell on his son's eighth birthday, Ridgway told the task
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Speaker 1: force that the date had no significance to him. Ridgway
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Speaker 1: admitted that the times and circumstances of his killings were
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Speaker 1: simply motivated by opportunity. 4. Mary Sue Bellow Approximately one
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Speaker 1: month after Ridgway killed Debbie Abernathy, he killed Mary Bello
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Speaker 1: and placed her body along that same stretch of Highway 410.
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Speaker 1: Mary Bello lived a troubled life with an extensive history
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Speaker 1: of prostitution and drug use. She was known to work
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Speaker 1: as a prostitute along PHS. She contacted the task force
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Speaker 1: on a number of occasions with information of possible Green
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Speaker 1: River suspects. On October 11, 1983, at approximately 5 p.m.,
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Speaker 1: Mary left downtown Seattle to work as a prostitute. She
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Speaker 1: was never heard from again. She was 25. Ridgeway was
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Speaker 1: in South King County on the day of Mary's disappearance.
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Speaker 1: On October 11th, Ridgeway worked until 6.35 p.m. On the
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Speaker 1: day of Mary's disappearance, Ridgeway filled up his truck at
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Speaker 1: the Texaco gas station at South 172nd Street and PHS
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Speaker 1: and withdrew $ 40 from a cash machine in SeaTac at 7.51 p.m.
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Speaker 1: A year later, on October 12, 1984, a mushroom picker
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Speaker 1: discovered Mary's skeletal remains approximately 200 feet west of Milepost 34,
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Speaker 1: just off Highway 410. The area in which the remains
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Speaker 1: were found was heavily wooded with large evergreen trees and
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Speaker 1: sparse surface vegetation. The only distinguishing landmark in the area
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Speaker 1: was the milepost. During interviews, Ridgway claimed that he could
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Speaker 1: not identify Mary. However, he did provide, an accurate description
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Speaker 1: of where he left her body. After some initial confusion
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Speaker 1: about the precise milepost, Ridgway told detectives that milepost 34
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Speaker 1: brought back memories. He described parking his truck in front
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Speaker 1: of the milepost and pulling a victim into the woods
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Speaker 1: without having to drag the body over a guardrail. He
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Speaker 1: said he then got back in his truck, drove down
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Speaker 1: the road, made a U-turn, and parked the truck on
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Speaker 1: the opposite side of the road facing west. Then he
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Speaker 1: said he returned to the body and dragged it farther
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Speaker 1: into the woods. Ridgway's description matched the dump site where
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Speaker 1: Mary's body was found. When taken to the dump site,
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Speaker 1: Ridgway first struggled to identify it. After he was informed
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Speaker 1: that the area had recently been clear-cut, Ridgway suggested that
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Speaker 1: he killed a woman in the early 1980s and pulled
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Speaker 1: her body into the woods down the hill in this location.
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Speaker 1: After reviewing historical photographs depicting the dump site, Ridgway confirmed
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Speaker 1: this statement. Ridgway told detectives that he dumped the woman's body.
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Speaker 1: He threw her clothes out of the truck of his
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Speaker 1: window as soon as he could. In the 1980s, the
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Speaker 1: task force recovered a mixed print sundress with small straps
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Speaker 1: located approximately three miles west of Mary's dump site. Mary's
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Speaker 1: grandfather later told detectives that the dress was similar to
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Speaker 1: the one Mary wore on the day of her disappearance. 5.
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Speaker 1: Pammy Avent Approximately two weeks after killing Mary Bellow, and
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Speaker 1: placing her body on Highway 410 Ridgeway killed Pammy Avent
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Speaker 1: and left her body along the same stretch of road.
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Speaker 1: Avent's remains were not discovered until August of 2003, only
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Speaker 1: after Ridgeway directed task force detectives to them. Pammy Avent
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Speaker 1: worked as a prostitute in the Rainier Valley area of Seattle.
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Speaker 1: On October 26, 1983, at 7.30 p.m., she left her
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Speaker 1: mother's Rainier Valley home in Seattle to work as a prostitute.
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Speaker 1: She was never seen again. She was 16. Pammy's mother
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Speaker 1: reported her missing four days later. For several years after
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Speaker 1: her disappearance, the task force, receiving many tips, suggesting that
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Speaker 1: Pammy had run away from home. Tips claimed that Pammy
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Speaker 1: was living in Hollywood, that she had run away to Denver,
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Speaker 1: and given birth to a baby girl, and that she
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Speaker 1: was working as a prostitute out of a local area motel.
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Speaker 1: The task force investigated the tips, and despite their efforts,
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Speaker 1: could not locate Pammy. For 21 years, her fate remained
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Speaker 1: a mystery. In 2003, Ridgeway, admitted killing Pammy and led
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Speaker 1: the task force directly to her body. Task force detectives
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Speaker 1: took Ridgway to Highway 410 in an effort to identify
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Speaker 1: dump sites of undiscovered victims. On one trip, Ridgway asked
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Speaker 1: to stop at a pullout on the south side of
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Speaker 1: Highway 410 across the street from the Corliss gravel pit,
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Speaker 1: just east of Milepost 26. Ridgway told the task force
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Speaker 1: that he placed a body across the street from the
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Speaker 1: gravel pit in a gully. Six days later, the task
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Speaker 1: force found Pammy's remains in the location identified by Ridgeway.
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Speaker 1: Her body had been placed up against a fallen cedar
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Speaker 1: log that lay parallel to the highway, approximately 50 feet
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Speaker 1: from the edge of the dirt road. The remains were
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Speaker 1: largely intact due to their position next to the fallen
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Speaker 1: cedar log. A significant amount of the remains were found
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Speaker 1: under three to six inches of dirt, bark, and other debris.
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Speaker 1: As with his other victims, Ridgeway claimed to not recognize
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Speaker 1: Pammy's photograph, In fact, his description of the woman he
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Speaker 1: thought he placed in this location was not Pammy. Ridgway
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Speaker 1: thought that the victim left in this particular location had
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Speaker 1: a deformed leg. Pammy did not. No additional victims were
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Speaker 1: found in the area. All right, folks, we're going to
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Speaker 1: wrap up this episode here. And in the next episode,
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Speaker 1: we're going to pick up with six Roberta Hayes. All
35:59
Speaker 1: of the information that goes with this episode can be
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Speaker 1: found in the description box. What's up, everyone? And welcome
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Speaker 1: back to the program. In this episode, we're going to
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Speaker 1: continue on with the unmasking of Gary Ridgway, the Green
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Speaker 1: River Killer. 6. Roberta Hayes 21-year-old Roberta Hayes worked as
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Speaker 1: a prostitute and traveled back and forth between Portland and
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Speaker 1: Seattle on a fairly regular basis. She disappeared sometime in
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Speaker 1: early 1987. The last known sighting of Roberta was on
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Speaker 1: February 7, 1987, when she was released from the custody
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Speaker 1: of of the Portland, Oregon Police Department after an arrest
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Speaker 1: for prostitution. It was believed that she was headed back
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Speaker 1: to Seattle. On September 11, 1991, more than four years
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Speaker 1: after she was last seen, a Washington State Parks employee
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Speaker 1: discovered Roberta's skeletal remains at the end of a dead-end
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Speaker 1: dirt road located north of Highway 410 between Milepost 36
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Speaker 1: and 37. The remains were to the east of the road,
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Speaker 1: near piles of debris. A Weyerhaeuser security official later told
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Speaker 1: detectives that the road had been blocked with boulders sometime
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Speaker 1: between September 1986 and April of 1987. Roberta Hayes is
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Speaker 1: the only victim found on the north side of Highway 410.
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Speaker 1: During interviews in 2003, Ridgway provided a detailed description of
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Speaker 1: Roberta's dump site. Ridgway described a white woman that he
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Speaker 1: killed and placed on the north side of Highway 410.
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Speaker 1: Ridgway repeatedly stated, that he only placed one victim on
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Speaker 1: the northern side of 410, he accurately described Roberta as
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Speaker 1: having blonde brown hair, being 5'7, and skinny. Ridgway's description
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Speaker 1: of the dump site matches the location where Roberta's remains
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Speaker 1: were found. He accurately described the end of a dirt
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Speaker 1: road just past a large curve to the east in
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Speaker 1: the highway, a dead end with both man-made and natural debris.
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Speaker 1: He correctly recalled the slope of the terrain and the
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Speaker 1: curvature of the road, He also knew that Roberta's dump
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Speaker 1: site was just east and across the highway from the
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Speaker 1: dump site of Martina Autherley. When taken to Highway 410
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Speaker 1: Ridgeway identified the general vicinity of the roadway but initially
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Speaker 1: struggled to identify the precise road. The road had changed
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Speaker 1: significantly since the murder but once the changes in the
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Speaker 1: road were described to Ridgeway he correctly identified the road
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Speaker 1: upon which he dumped Roberta's body. Ridgeway was later shown
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Speaker 1: unmarked photos of the roadway which he immediately identified as
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Speaker 1: the dump site for Roberta. Roberta was not listed as
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Speaker 1: a Green River victim. Neither Ridgway nor his attorneys received
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Speaker 1: any information from detectives and prosecutors about her death prior
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Speaker 1: to his admission to killing her and placing her body
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Speaker 1: at Highway 410. 7. Marta Reeves In the early spring
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Speaker 1: of 1990, Marta Reeves lived apart from her estranged husband
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Speaker 1: and her four children. She had moved out in May
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Speaker 1: of 1989 due to her cocaine addiction and began prostituting herself.
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Speaker 1: She spent most of her time in the Central District
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Speaker 1: of Seattle and had twice been arrested for prostitution. She
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Speaker 1: was 36. Marta's husband last heard from her on the
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Speaker 1: evening of either March 5th or 6th, 1990. Marta called
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Speaker 1: him looking for money. When he rejected Marta's request for money,
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Speaker 1: she told him that she would have to work all night.
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Speaker 1: He never heard from her again. A month later, Marta's husband,
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Speaker 1: received an envelope in the mail from the U.S. Postal
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Speaker 1: Service containing her driver's license. Her husband showed the license
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Speaker 1: to numerous people while looking for his missing wife. He
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Speaker 1: reported Marta missing on April 13, 1990. The driver's license
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Speaker 1: was later tested for fingerprints with negative results. The license
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Speaker 1: was printed and after it had been handled by Marta's
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Speaker 1: husband and shown to many people. On September 20, 1990,
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Speaker 1: a couple of mushroom pickers found Marta's skeletal remains approximately
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Speaker 1: 600 feet east of Milepost 33 on Highway 410. The
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Speaker 1: remains were halfway down a looping dirt road that spurred
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Speaker 1: off of the southern side of the highway. The police
40:12
Speaker 1: later recovered several pieces of clothing. The clothing was examined
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Speaker 1: for physical evidence with negative results. The remains were identified
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Speaker 1: as Marta's in January of 1991. Ridgeway, maps off Highway 410,
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Speaker 1: listed a body he left at the location where Marta
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Speaker 1: was found. He drew a looped road on the side
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Speaker 1: of the highway where he placed the body. Ridgeway accurately
40:34
Speaker 1: described the location of the body some 20 to 30
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Speaker 1: feet into the woods. During the course of task force interviews,
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Speaker 1: Ridgeway provided more detailed descriptions of Marta's dump site. Ridgeway
40:46
Speaker 1: described the road dropping down below Highway 410 with heavy
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Speaker 1: foliage on either side. He remembered the foliage rubbing up
40:52
Speaker 1: against the side of his truck as he drove down
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Speaker 1: the road. He told the detectives that he drove about
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Speaker 1: halfway down the road and then pulled the body into
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Speaker 1: the woods about 30 feet. When Ridgeway was shown unmarked
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Speaker 1: photos of the dump site as it appeared in 1990,
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Speaker 1: he immediately identified it as the Lower Loop Road off
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Speaker 1: of Highway 410. Photographs confirm Ridgeway's description of the scene,
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Speaker 1: including the fact that the loop road was so narrow
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Speaker 1: that foliage stuck to the sides of vehicles traveling upon it.
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Speaker 1: When taken to Marta's dump site on Highway 410, Ridgway
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Speaker 1: was unable to locate the roadway, but he did point
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Speaker 1: out the correct stretch of highway where the original road,
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Speaker 1: now blocked off and completely overgrown, had been. Ridgway claimed
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Speaker 1: that he could not recall any details about Marta or
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Speaker 1: her murder. Ridgway first told detectives that the victim was
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Speaker 1: black and that he killed her in the early 1980s.
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Speaker 1: When told that Marta went missing in 1990, and that
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Speaker 1: she was white, not black, Ridgway acknowledged, I killed the
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Speaker 1: one on the loop road, and I just, you know,
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Speaker 1: I killed so many of them, so I had to
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Speaker 1: kind of guess if she was white or black. He
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Speaker 1: later added, I screwed up on the time frames. Finally,
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Speaker 1: Ridgway admitted placing a woman's driver's license in a mailbox
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Speaker 1: on one or two occasions. When asked to explain why
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Speaker 1: he did this, Ridgway could only respond, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Get back at the family or something? I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Marta was not listed as an official Green River victim.
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Speaker 1: Ridgway and his attorneys were not provided with any of
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Speaker 1: the police reports concerning her case prior to his confession
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Speaker 1: to her murder. K. Yvonne Antosh On May 31, 1983,
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Speaker 1: at about 11 p.m., Yvonne Shelley Antosh was last seen
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Speaker 1: when she left the Ben Carroll Motel on PHS. She
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Speaker 1: and a childhood friend, had come to Seattle from Vancouver,
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Speaker 1: British Columbia. The two were staying together on PHS. Shelley
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Speaker 1: had been involved in prostitution for just a few weeks.
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Speaker 1: She was 19. Ridgway was on strike for most of
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Speaker 1: May 1983, and he devoted his time to what he
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Speaker 1: called his career. During that month, he killed Shelley, Carol Christensen,
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Speaker 1: Carrie Royce, Martina Authorly, and Cheryl Wims. The night Shelley disappeared,
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Speaker 1: Ridgway made a cash withdrawal for $ 20 on PHS, at
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Speaker 1: 1144 p.m. In October of 1983, two boys discovered Shelly's
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Speaker 1: remains about 25 to 30 yards downhill from the Auburn
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Speaker 1: Black Diamond Road, south of Big Seuss Creek in King County.
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Speaker 1: She had been placed between two large alder trees. The
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Speaker 1: area was heavily overgrown with swamp grass and other thick vegetation.
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Speaker 1: On the first day of interviews, In 2003, Ridgway informed
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Speaker 1: detectives that he had killed a woman and dumped her
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Speaker 1: body along the Auburn Black Diamond Road. He believed the
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Speaker 1: task force had found the body. Ridgway indicated there were
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Speaker 1: two bodies on the Auburn Black Diamond Road, one of
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Speaker 1: which he had placed down a hill. In 2003, police
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Speaker 1: took Ridgway to the Auburn Black Diamond Road. According to
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Speaker 1: detectives who were with him on this trip, Ridgway directed
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Speaker 1: them to almost the exact location where Shelly's remains were found.
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Speaker 1: Ridgway could not provide any specific details concerning Shelly. He
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Speaker 1: recalled that she was just a white woman, picked her
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Speaker 1: up on Highway 99 or maybe Central District. Ridgway also
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Speaker 1: said he picked her up and killed her at night.
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Speaker 1: He said he killed her in the bedroom of his house.
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Speaker 1: Ridgway was vague on exactly how he killed her and
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Speaker 1: vacillated between claiming that he killed her with his arm
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Speaker 1: and that he used a ligature. L. Interstate 90 and
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Speaker 1: Highway 18. Tina Thompson, April Buttram, and Maureen Feeney. Ridgway
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Speaker 1: admitted that he dumped three victims, Tina Thompson, April Buttram,
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Speaker 1: and Maureen Feeney, near the intersection of Interstate 90 and
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Speaker 1: Highway 18. All three women worked as prostitutes and were
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Speaker 1: killed within a span of approximately two months. In the 1980s,
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Speaker 1: the task force recovered the remains of two of the women,
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Speaker 1: Tina Thompson and Maureen Feeney. Their bodies were found across
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Speaker 1: the street from each other in 2003 and Based upon
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Speaker 1: information provided by Ridgeway, police recovered remains of the third woman,
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Speaker 1: April Buttram, she had been missing for 20 years. 1.
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Speaker 1: Tina Thompson Tina Thompson disappeared on or around Monday morning,
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Speaker 1: July 25, 1983. She was staying at the Spruce Motel
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Speaker 1: on PHS and working as a prostitute. A fellow prostitute
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Speaker 1: reported that their pimp had talked to Tina in the
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Speaker 1: early morning hours of July 25, 1983 and but was
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Speaker 1: unsuccessful in reaching her again later that day. Tina was
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Speaker 1: never reported missing to the police. She was 22. Ridgway
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Speaker 1: did not work Sunday, July 24, 1983, and arrived at
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Speaker 1: work on July 25, 1983, at approximately 6.45 a.m. On
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Speaker 1: April 20, 1984, Tina's remains were discovered near the intersection
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Speaker 1: of Highway 18 and Interstate 90. Her clothing was missing,
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Speaker 1: and her body was wrapped in sheets of plastic. She
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Speaker 1: remained unidentified until June of 1986. During interviews with the
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Speaker 1: task force in 1986, Ridgway's second wife reported that she
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Speaker 1: and Ridgway had been to the area where Thompson's body
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Speaker 1: was later recovered. She recalled Ridgway stopping his vehicle and
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Speaker 1: urinating there. In 2003, Ridgway admitted killing Tina Thompson and
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Speaker 1: leaving her body near Interstate 90 and Highway 18. He
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Speaker 1: recalled killing her at night. He initially stated that he
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Speaker 1: could not recognize her photo or remember exactly where he
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Speaker 1: killed her. Ridgway later recalled a victim who almost escaped
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Speaker 1: him and suggested she was Tina. He said she was
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Speaker 1: trying to strangle her in his bedroom, as was his
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Speaker 1: practice when she slipped away from him. He said he
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Speaker 1: caught her at the front door and killed her there,
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Speaker 1: just inside of the front door. Ridgway recalled dumping a
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Speaker 1: body at night at the location where Tina's remains were found.
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Speaker 1: In June of 2003, Ridgway directed the police to the
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Speaker 1: Leisure Time dump site where, as recounted immediately below, the
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Speaker 1: remains of April Buttram were subsequently discovered. While at the scene,
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Speaker 1: Ridgway offered to lead the detectives to a nearby location where,
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Speaker 1: he said, he dumped two other bodies. Ridgway accurately directed
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Speaker 1: the police to the area where Tina's body had been discovered.
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Speaker 1: He recalled correctly that he put her under some plastic
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Speaker 1: that he found at the site. Microtrace, a nationally renowned
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Speaker 1: private forensic laboratory, reported in the fall of 2003 that
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Speaker 1: paint fragments recovered with Tina's remains are indistinguishable even after
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Speaker 1: a multiple analysis from paint recovered with the remains of
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Speaker 1: Cheryl Wims disappeared May 1983 and found at North Airport
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Speaker 1: dump site and Dolores Williams disappeared March of 1983 found
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Speaker 1: at Star Lake. All right, folks, we're going to wrap
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Speaker 1: up right here. And in the next episode, we're going
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Speaker 1: to pick up with two. April Bootroom. All of the
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Speaker 1: information that goes with this episode can be found in
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Speaker 1: the description box.