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MLB Playoff Game 1s, Cubs go opener, Iowa State on upset watch? The Voice of the Chiefs Mitch Holthus joins · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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All right, good afternoon. Welcome, Miller and Condon on a
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Wednesday. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
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Network. Trent Condon and Ken Miller for
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the next couple of hours talking sports with you.
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Appreciate you starting your afternoon here with us.
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Here's what's coming up on our program.
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We're going to start at 1225. Little Hawkeye conversation.
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Right off the bat, Jan Jensen has landed a jewel, a gem for
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the 2026 class. Help me out, Trent McKenna.
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Well, let's go. Well, let's go She a top five
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wing, yes, top five wing in the country.
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So. Number six player overall about.
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That good for her, Jan Jensen and whoever else is out on the
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road with you sealing that deal as she will be making a way to
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Iowa City. Is she the 1st in that class to
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sign do you know? Well, hasn't signed well, right?
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Made her commitment, yes. And last weekend they had
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another top five player in with Bjorn from down in Kansas City.
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There's another. CC still continues to pay
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residuals. Here locally you have up at
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Johnston Lewis, Jenica Lewis who is one of the top 25 players in
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the country, so trending maybe in a positive direction there.
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I know there's another top guard that they're after, Jan Jetson.
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One of her major strengths as an assistant was as a recruiter and
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now the head job, doing an incredible job of looking to
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fortify this roster. You know, last year I thought
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was such an important bridge year for them.
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Yeah. Because you want to lose
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momentum. Yeah, you couldn't fall on your
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face right when they had that five game losing streak.
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Looked like maybe it was trending, but they pulled out of
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it. They got that win out of
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Washington and really turned around the season, had the huge
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win against USC, and though it didn't go well against Oklahoma
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in the second round, you got there, you won a game.
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All right, now it's time to build it back up and it looks
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like at least recruiting wise, that is definitely happening.
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Good for them. So David Eichel 12/25 That and
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obviously Gronowski if what his take away listening to Tim
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Lester. Cloudy I think is how they put
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it. So we'll get David's version of
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cloudy when he joins us at 12:25.
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Mitch Holtz is the voice of the Chiefs.
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He will join us to talk about this past week and look ahead to
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Monday Night Football as they go to Jacksonville.
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Capy is here to kick off our number 2 pretty timely.
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The cap man, the Cubs up 1, nothing.
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Bullpen game today. I don't like it on the surface.
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And look, I'm a Kittridge guy. I've been saying that since he
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got over from Baltimore. Yeah, I'm a little bit
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surprised. Go for their throat.
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But they are, aren't they? I hope.
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I'm but if but if you were, wouldn't you send your starter
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out there? You wouldn't.
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Because this is where Shota Imanaga has struggled.
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He has struggled two different ways, both in the first standing
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of games. So he'll come into the game as
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that. How OK?
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And then secondly. So that's different that shame
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on me because I didn't realize that was the case.
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Yes, that is the game and as I understand it it'll be Kittridge
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likely for an ending and then show and then Shota will come in
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after. That I've always told you I like
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create Council. You're ready to kill him,
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weren't you? Now, if that's not the plan?
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Then back to I. Am right there with you.
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That is awful but the other part is you also.
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Then when you hit the top of the order, you're not seeing him for
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1/3 time. And most everybody we know in
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baseball. Especially this time in
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baseball. Yes, yeah, playoff baseball goes
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to another level coupled with Shota.
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That's been another issue for him is the third time through.
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So you're pushing that back a little bit.
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You're doing it with a veteran. You're doing with the guy that
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you feel comfortable with. Kittridge, he's just, he's out
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there. He kind of looks like a beer
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league softball player. He's got that.
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Funky delivery. Now the Game of Thrones is
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wrapped up, he can play baseball again.
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That's right, and he's got the funk and go out there, get a
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123, bang, bang, bang and off you go.
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Here comes showed in the second inning, but and you put that in
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there if this doesn't go well. If yeah.
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I mean if they hit them hard right away, what are you doing?
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You have shota available, put your throat to them.
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So there will be second guessing if this doesn't go.
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Well, that's why managers earn their money and Aaron Boone is
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earning his money today because he is getting killed.
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We'll get to that in a second. Cappy kicks off hour number two,
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Nick Maravitz, locked on Cyclones.
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Part of the locked on network will get the latest on Iowa
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State. I want to stop and criticize.
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Certainly me and I'll throw you into the mix.
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Jeez, OK. I so I'm, I'm walking out of the
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studio yesterday, down the stairs.
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Here comes Sean and Lucas up the stairs.
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And no, little, little conversation doesn't going down.
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He's coming up and they're coming up and Sean says to me,
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boy, John Tez Williams is all for the year, huh?
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Yeah, and it didn't dawn on me what he'd said until he got into
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how did we miss that news yesterday during our show?
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It broke during our show. I just thought, well, yeah,
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Cooper's out for the league. And it didn't sink in.
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And then it sunk in, and I'm thinking, we never even
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mentioned this, that they're going to be without both of
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their starting corners. Horrible job out of us.
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Pretty important game coming up against Cincinnati, but how do
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we miss it? I know we were doing a lot of
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NFL yesterday. We were and watching baseball.
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Trying to keep up to date on that.
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That was probably the reason too.
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I guess I had something to do with it, but boy, oh boy.
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So what is what is Iowa State? Look, they're proud of their
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culture. They should be.
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They've built depth over there in the last few years.
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Going to be tested. Oh, no doubt going to be tested
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because they're going to play some quarterbacks who Chuck it
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around here before the season comes to an end.
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So I went back and I watched the the sequence last night when he
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got hurt. I, I sought during the game.
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Mm hmm. But he didn't dawn on me that,
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you know, he was, you know, gonna be season ender and he was
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down on the ground for a significant amount of time.
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And then they walk off the field.
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He walked off the field under his own steam.
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But he kind of stopped a little bit before, right.
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He got to the sideline, kind of kind of shook his, his, his
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right leg a little bit. And the worst part about it is,
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and it's football is it was friendly fire.
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I think it was Caleb Bacon who fell into him as they were
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making a play up 3 touchdowns, 3 minutes left in the game.
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You know, you're second guessing yourself on that one.
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But Williams and Cooper now both out, Trey Bell, who we both
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like. I'm not putting words in your
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mouth, am I? I think you'll like Trey Bell.
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Good size, looks solid at mid. I'm with you.
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And now Quinton Taylor, junior, a red shirt freshman, is going
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to be asked to to pick up a lot of those, a lot of that
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workload. So we'll see where it goes.
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Like John Haycock is pretty good.
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What he does for a living, let's be honest, I don't hit the panic
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button because of what we saw at linebacker last year.
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I mean, just absolutely devastating.
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And right away, I mean, he's starting that Iowa game where
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they're down what, playing their 6th, 8th and 9th linebackers
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coming into camp. And that's what they had out
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there. And it really wasn't that big of
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a deal, you know? And he just, he's going to find
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a way coupled with what they do in the defensive backfield and
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versatility and what you have back there.
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Obviously everybody knows that. My affinity for Neil and I know
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we're not alone on that front, but just the rest of that.
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Patton's had a terrific. Yeah, we talked about Patton
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yesterday. I mean, he has taken that step
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and he's gone from. He's fine, dude.
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He's a good player. He is a good player.
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Now the back end of that defense is going to be fine.
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We'll see about Cummings. Coleman, I know he's also
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dealing with an injury now, but via Tinter, we see a little bit
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of him. James back there.
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Taylor's fine. But the one thing I do want to
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see that comes out of this is if Betty Nagoya is ready.
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Yeah, and he's probably going to have to be asked to step up a
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little bit here. Because if you go on one side
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with Trey Bell, he's a big coin and then you put a Goye on the
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bigger cornerback. I mean, that's something that
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that's something that looks different coupled with that
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safety play. I am a little bit excited to
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see. You never want to lose certainly
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any player of the caliber of one of them of or Williams, not a
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little both. But my concern level because of
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Haycock, it just it's not real high.
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Be interesting, can't wait to see it.
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How much is that factored into the point spread movement?
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So it opened up Iowa State opened up two correct on when
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Circa put it out. I think so, yes and very.
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Quickly, so this is Sunday and and we got we we were asked to
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comment on this on, on our Twitter, on the Miller and
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Condon Twitter page as to, you know, how Vegas knows about
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these things seemingly before everybody else does.
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That was Troy that asked us that.
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And a it's a reaction to the money that they're seeing come
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in probably as much as anything. But they all get, they all get
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information. They've all got people not on
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the nothing wrong with giving them.
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Hell, I've given them information many times.
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You've probably done the same thing.
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I'm not sure we do it for, you know, anybody else, but
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obviously our relationship with circus.
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So they get it from a variety of of a variety of different ways,
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but mostly from watching, you know, their, their computers and
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watching the money come in and trying to adjust it because, you
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know, a perfect. World, they just make a living
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off the juice, no doubt. And you balance the books,
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balance the books, go that direction, rake in your 10%,
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you're good to go and that's what they're hoping for and
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that's why we hear so many times they don't want a number to
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push. Yeah right.
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They don't want that to land on a three.
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They don't want it to land on A7, whatever the number turns
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out to be. Another component to that is
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there are people that they have too, and there are different
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people inside of programs or very close to programs that, and
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this isn't Matt Campbell is not making a call.
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No, Kurt Faris is not making a call.
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Not Tim Lester, not J Cat. No, nothing like that.
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But student assistants, guys that are grad assistants, things
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like that, people that are trainers, those are the
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different elements that they have in many programs.
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And this isn't an Iowa State. Thing.
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No, no, no. This is across the.
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Country. This is across the country.
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This is 1 sport, 136 teams, 360 teams in college basketball.
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NHLNBANFL all of them. MLB, All of them.
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And do they have every single program?
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No. No, but most of the board,
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that's why they watch the money coming in.
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But that's the most important your component, you know,
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because people get their tinfoil hats out and we encourage that
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on Miller and kind of we like our tin file hats, however.
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Back and forth daily. The biggest 1 is what they see
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coming in and maybe there's other people, there's betting
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syndicates that have the same thing.
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They also have people inside programs that will feed them
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information, but they all of a sudden see we've taken 5 limit
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bets on Cincinnati Iowa State. Then they start to dig a little
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bit deeper too. Absolutely.
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So that's our program chat. We'll end it with his plays of
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the day. So let's go back to baseball
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yesterday. You know what struck me watching
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the opening day of Super Tuesday of Wild Card?
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The left-handed pitchers and their dominance in this thing.
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I mean, it was 1 lefty starter after another.
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It was scuba and it was Boyd and it was crochet and it was freed
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and it was Blake Snell in the nightcap.
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My God. The lefty starters, they were
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asked to do a lot and all of them pitched exceptionally well.
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If you're Aaron Boone, I guess I'll put just put it this way.
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Should he have left him in and he went to Weaver and Weaver had
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not been good in the month of September, Crochet stays in.
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He was unbelievable. My God, he was good and scuba
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earlier in the day. What was your thoughts on what
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Aaron Boone did and are the Yankees up against it here
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today? I certainly was not second
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guessing it at a time he was north of 100 pitches.
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We're talking about going through the order again and I
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didn't do I just did like the spot.
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You know, after he got the I, it was a situation more than
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anything. In fact, if they would have just
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taken him out after 6, maybe could even understood it more,
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you know, doing it that direction.
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But after getting it out and then bring him that, it just was
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a head scratching decision. Weaver, I understand putting
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Weaver in that spot. You know, Williams looking at
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high leverage guys, right? Williams hasn't been good
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himself and he's got his own playoff issues.
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Weaver got him to the World Thunder World Series a year ago,
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and though it hasn't gone well lately, I think you go to that
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institutional knowledge. This guy's done it for us.
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Again, we see this happen so many times, guys, pitchers,
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bullpen guys that are different when it comes October.
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And because of that, I didn't have a problem with Weaver in
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that spot. Hindsight 2020 surely wouldn't
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do it now, but in the moment it was just the timing more than
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anything I think that bothered. Me of the teams that are down O2
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and what did you say yesterday? It's it's they're 2 and 10 in
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the last, yes, 2 and 10 in the last three seasons.
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As far as these, these things end early.
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These are sweeps. There's only two of the 12 that
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have gone to a game. Three.
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How many of these are going to go to a game 3?
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Trent Condon. I think we're going to see 2.
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You do and which two do you have in mind?
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I got the Tigers guardians. OK.
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And I have the Red Sox, Yankees, the American League I need for.
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Cleveland. Who is great against the Tigers?
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OK career. He has absolutely dominated in
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his starts. I think just as a starter, the
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win loss records like 24 and 2 something ridiculous like that
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crazy in those match ups. So I I really like that I got a
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couple of Bybee bets already that I hit before we went on the
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air today. So really like them, and I do
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think the Yankees do bounce back.
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Top of the first and Detroit's got runners on 1st and 2nd.
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Nobody. Else I see that.
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Yikes so well we'll see where it goes.
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It's gonna be fun to watch. I hope we get baseball tomorrow,
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hopefully during the day cause the Sunday of the Thursday night
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game is Niners at Rams. Pretty good game.
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Absolutely an important game on the Surface 2.
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Three in one teams. Uh huh.
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I I think that San Fran's a fake three in one team if you had to,
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if I had to say. And Purdy, very banged up, you
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know, a lot of concerns about him even being able to go in
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this one. And if he does, how limited he's
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going to be with the turf toe injury that is significant and
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trying to come back from that. We hear it all.
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Can we come up with a different name for turf toe?
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Well, you because it's not really the toe, right?
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Because so help me, who am I asking you?
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For Doctor Condon, all right. So as I understand it, your big
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toe is essentially pushed all the way back to the front of
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your ankle, right? Well, and it tears everything
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and can go, yeah, either up or down, but yeah, usually.
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Up, up towards. It's usually up.
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Towards your calf. Up towards right.
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And that's, I mean tears all those ligaments, yes, that's
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turf toe, right? Yeah, it's just the the
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terminology turf toe. It sounds like you stubbed a toe
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and everybody does that, you know, once a week minimum.
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Right. You're saying what's the big
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deal? And then you hear what it is.
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It's hyperextending your. Toe right and all the ligaments
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that are attached to it if. You ever had a hyperextended
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elbow or a knee? Think of that, or think of when
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you've seen that. That's what this is I.
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Agree with you, but when on the surface until I looked into it a
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few years ago. I'm thinking really, Toes going
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to keep him out for two months. Let's go.
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Rub some dirt out of kid let's. Go, kid, get in there.
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Oh, man, Oh, man. Good stuff.
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All right, so back to Iowa State, Cincinnati, your your
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thoughts on this game? I think it's a tough game.
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I think it's a tougher game than look, it's a road game.
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It's the Big 12. Iowa State came out of there.
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Bye. We just absolutely throttled
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Arizona. I want to see it before I, I'm
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for, I'm as confident in the secondary as you are.
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And I get it. The linebackers last year, we
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probably said the same thing, you know, prior to the
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linebackers being forced into action.
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Maybe these guys are up to it. Campbell has built depth.
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There's no denying that. He has built depth seemingly
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year after year after year. See where it goes?
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I'm now this is what I believe. In the preseason I had as an
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ELF, I had Iowa State losing to Cincinnati of memory serves.
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I know you watched a ton of the Cincinnati Kansas game.
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I did, and maybe that gives you a different perception.
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Really my deepest knowledge base and the most I watched was
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against Nebraska. Sorsby was awful.
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He ran the ball incredibly well, but throwing the football, he
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was terrible. He didn't have and he didn't
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throw the. Ball well against Iowa State
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last year. No, I'm going to look.
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I thought he was terrible against Iowa State last year.
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Could be the case. Yeah, I think he ran it.
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Did you run it OK? Sorsby threw for 66 yards.
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Ran for $1.43. Maybe that's also lingering in
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the behind, just a little bit of what happened in that one.
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Now this is kind of what we talked about last week, a week
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ago, everything that we've seen says take an E in right, lay the
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points, no big deal. They're going to throttle Iowa
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and yet the betting market was telling us something completely
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different. And I come into this one.
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Iowa State, they'll go there, they'll be fine.
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I don't see big concerns. But the betting market is
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telling us a different story. And the betting market, this is
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the big percentage of money and bets on one side They're on the
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Cyclones. Everybody publicly currently is
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on Iowa State. I think I saw yesterday was over
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80% of the money, like 72% of the tickets were on the
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Cyclones. Yet we're seeing that point
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spread go back the way of Cincinnati.
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That tells you there's either a betting syndicate or big money
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wagers are coming in on the Bearcats when that is happening.
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So my mind of watching football like it was Indiana last week
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says take the Hoosiers and Iowa covers this week.
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My betting mind says take Iowa State.
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Yet the betting market is telling us this is a Bearcats
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game. So that's because we've been
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doing this a long time. We're talking about these splits
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a long time. That's what has be concerned
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about Iowa State, nothing on the field, nothing football wise.
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It's the betting market that is really pushing me that.
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Way and look, the receivers so well had a breakout game.
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I mean, just a breakout game. He was absolutely terrific.
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We know the tight ends are going to be there.
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Eskeld sends off to a great start.
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Townsends doing what he does that they've got and then Rocco
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backed and and the line is playing relatively well.
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The offensive line is holding up.
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We'll see where it goes and John Haycock's going to get on the
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plane and he's going to be in Cincinnati.
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That's nice to have. It sure is.
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Well, right through the afternoon as off the bench come
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Sean Robertson, Lucas Strain, 2 until 5.
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Mitch Holt is the voice of the Kansas City Chiefs coming up
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here at 12:45, David Icolt right now.
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He joins us recap the coordinators press conferences
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yesterday and the exciting news Jan Jensen and the Iowa women.
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God will get to that in a minute because I struggled with
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Mckennas last name, so save that.
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Well, let's go. Well, let's go.
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You'll get it. Well, let's go.
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McKenna would. Well, let's go is going to be a
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Hawkeye. All right, since we're there.
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David good to talk to you and I and I saw the video you posted
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on X when they found out and McKenna asked Jan Jensen and
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those around is #20 available sound made made pretty clear
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that she was going to join a Jan's squad.
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That's quite a get, David Icolt. Well done.
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Yeah. And I'll say this, too.
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Is that not just the most Jan Jensen reaction of all Jan
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Jensen reaction? Right.
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Just just the way everything there.
19:46
But I'll go a step further, too, man.
19:48
I mean, I really feel like this is the most important gift.
19:52
I will win past history. I think you looked at Addy Deal.
19:57
Luther Brown played basketball. We're going to put you David,
20:02
we're going to, we're going to call you.
20:04
Back yeah. And he mentioned he was in a
20:06
spot that had a little bit of an issue.
20:08
So he was right, yes. Let me see what I can do here
20:11
real quick. Yeah, he was absolutely right.
20:13
That's that's that's not good. I didn't want to put our
20:16
audience through that. So we'll get David back on here
20:18
to talk about McKenna Willitsko and obviously Mark Gronowski,
20:22
who Tim Lester said it's cloudy. Good news is they don't play
20:25
this week, right? They've got a weakened some time
20:28
to figure out how that's going to transpire if he's going to be
20:33
back. There's conflicting reports.
20:35
Who depends on who you read, depends on who you listen to.
20:38
It sounds as though it might be a couple of weeks.
20:41
Fingers crossed that you know it's sooner rather than later.
20:45
What are you hearing, Trent? I'm going to send him a zoom
20:49
link that might work a little bit better.
20:51
Oh, for for Dave. No, I'm OK.
20:53
That's fine. I didn't know you're doing.
20:54
That I apologize. That's OK.
20:56
What? Nothing.
20:57
Guardians. So they got out of the.
20:59
First they got out of it 3 consecutive strikeouts over
21:02
Bybee. Well, people jumped aboard with
21:04
that one on the over 5 1/2. We're off to a good start on
21:06
that one, but also you are left with solo home run there.
21:14
The second batter, I wasn't sure who it was there, just saw it
21:16
out of the corner of my eye, but what?
21:18
Nothing Guardians, by the way. As they try to even up their
21:21
series at one apiece. All right, so we'll work on
21:23
David. I cold hopefully we'll get him
21:24
back to opine on that. So when it comes to Gronowski,
21:27
anything that you've heard, do you buy?
21:30
I I think it's going to be touch and go certainly for the
21:34
Wisconsin. I do too.
21:35
I mean the the verbiage that they're using cloudy, yeah.
21:38
And just is he gone for the year?
21:42
Don't think so. Knock on wood, that doesn't tell
21:45
me he's going to be ready for Wisconsin.
21:46
I mean, if, if it's that kind of question, well, he's not done
21:50
for the year, but he's not going to be ready for the middle is.
21:53
Is this one of these things? Cause 'cause stick with me here.
21:57
Listening to Campbell after the game against Arizona, it sounded
22:01
like everybody came out of it OK.
22:04
And then on Monday or, or on Sunday and probably Sunday when
22:08
they did more testing, they found out that no, this is a
22:12
knee. And I'm wondering if the the 2
22:14
are not connected. But maybe unfortunately in our
22:18
case, lightning would strike twice.
22:22
You know, the bad news that a fall on I fell on Iowa State
22:26
might be the same on Iowa. So we'll see obviously what when
22:31
we find out, you'll find out and you'll probably find out before
22:34
us because Kirk Ferris talks at 1:45 and by that time, not this
22:39
week, next week. So we'll we'll see where it
22:41
goes, but not the not the best news, Although I kind of anxious
22:47
to see Brown play a little bit. We saw him a little bit that
22:50
that screen pass. He's got a he he he had to see
22:53
that in his sleep. That was he had blockers getting
22:56
out in front of him. This was in his bigger players.
22:59
It wasn't a game, obviously, right.
23:01
He it was all set up for them there.
23:03
He just you know, it happens, I guess.
23:06
I mean, if you go back to Iowa football, you've seen under
23:08
throwing balls for, I mean, Jake Christiansen did it for three
23:10
years for crying out loud. But Hank Brown was very good in
23:14
fall. He was very good in the spring.
23:15
But the time he got here, he was one of these guys.
23:18
You think back to April, I know Gronowski wasn't, you know, he
23:21
wasn't part of the spring ball, but they were talking up Hank
23:23
Brown way back then. They were talking up Hank Brown
23:27
in April or in August as well. Now it sounds like he's going to
23:31
get maybe his first opportunity to do so.
23:33
And it is a different team. It's a different team to the
23:36
fact that, you know, the tight ends have been able to not
23:39
carry, but certainly be a huge part of this offense over God.
23:42
I don't know, the last dozen years and and obviously that's
23:46
not the case this year. Do we have David back?
23:48
I believe that we do. I think I I sent him a zoom
23:51
link. So we're going to see if this
23:52
one works and and if it does, then we'll be able to go this
23:55
direction and get him on there. So let's see if we can get David
24:00
on here in just a moment. I think he is clicking on the
24:03
link right now and we'll get David Eichelt with us
24:05
momentarily. He's got his mic muted though,
24:08
so we got to get that wrapped. Up.
24:10
Yeah, that. Well, that won't.
24:11
Work that won't work. No, it won't work in radio.
24:14
The Wisconsin team itself. Your thoughts?
24:17
Wisconsin. We'll see him again, but blown
24:21
out by Alabama? Well, maybe Alabama's not.
24:23
No, what? I totally agree with you.
24:25
I totally agree with you. Ty Simpson's a good player.
24:27
Ty Simpson is moving up Heisman lists.
24:29
I'm not sure where he is. He's got to be in the top five
24:31
after that one. This is this game, this Alabama
24:34
game this week. It's got a little intrigue to
24:36
it. I mean, Vanderbilt of all teams
24:38
going in unbeaten to take on Alabama.
24:41
This is going to be this going to be a tricky spot for I think
24:45
for Vanderbilt. I mean, especially when he
24:48
consider what happened last year, what Saban said prior to
24:50
the game talking about the SEC and how tough it is to play most
24:53
well, the exception of this one or something like that.
24:56
Of course, they very quick to get that up on the Jumbotron
24:59
once Vanderbilt had dispatched Alabama last year.
25:03
But Pavian, he's still going through his fight with the NCAA.
25:06
He's trying to get more eligibility.
25:08
Do you think he's going to win? He.
25:11
Won this one. I didn't think this was I mean,
25:14
we've obviously seen a seismic shift when it comes to athletes.
25:18
And some of the, you know, they're getting paid now, right?
25:21
Remember when they dipped their toe in the water and they were
25:23
allowed to go back for seconds at the training table and that
25:27
was going to ruin college sports And all of a sudden now they're
25:29
getting paid Now all of a sudden, Juco's not counting
25:33
against you. I I'm not sure where I sit on
25:36
that one. He's still playing, right?
25:38
You know he's still playing and he is.
25:40
There's not. There was nothing other than
25:41
perhaps grades that prevented him from going to the school of
25:45
his choice. There's been, you know, some
25:47
interesting talk with the NCAA. What we're going to get to
25:53
doesn't have to be give him five years, what, whatever.
25:57
Five to play for? Five to play?
25:58
No, just five. Just five, period.
26:01
But this seven years, I mean, you, you look around, there's
26:04
guys that are three-year veterans in the NFL at the
26:06
quarterback position and Diego Pavia is still playing college
26:09
football. Yeah, it's too much.
26:12
We don't. Do we want it to turn into this?
26:14
Do we want to see a 38 year old Diego Pavia running around and
26:17
playing for the latest program that's gonna pay him?
26:20
No. No.
26:21
Is that what we want college athletics to turn into?
26:23
No, absolutely not. So you want them to play five,
26:27
Period. Give them 5.
26:28
Even don't have to worry about restrictions.
26:30
No, four games, none of that. You got five years, boom, five
26:33
years, period. And that can be a junior college
26:35
that can be at the D2 and AIA, whatever it is, but you have
26:40
five years. Or you can leave, go to the pro,
26:42
or just leave and. I mean, isn't that?
26:46
I don't know, I like 5 to play 4.
26:51
But now we we got the sham of a four-game red shirt.
26:55
I mean, that's not. Red shirt and now no longer the
26:57
bull is held against you, right? And then then when it comes to
27:02
basketball, you factor in, well, you can only play a certain
27:05
percentage of the you're trying to do the math.
27:07
They've played eight games. This is going to equate to a
27:10
medical red shirt. It's changed so much strength.
27:14
You may as well go another step forward.
27:15
Right. Yeah, just maybe.
27:16
We'll take another step forward. Stacking it on top of each other
27:19
and who knows what this is eventually going to turn out to
27:21
be, what it's going to look like.
27:23
There's the murmurs again about a potential breaking away of the
27:27
SEC in the Big 10. I saw something about the
27:29
potential that the NFL would have some backing behind that,
27:32
really. In what respect?
27:34
Just basically. Trying to do financial.
27:36
Backing and be some kind of farm system and there's talk of a
27:39
draft. I mean, there's there's all
27:41
kinds of thoughts and theories and what this actually is going
27:44
to look like in the big picture of things, which again, if we
27:47
wanted the NFL, we have the NFL. Do we need the minor league NFL?
27:51
No, we don't. We've already got it.
27:53
And I mean, you're a kid in Ankeny and you get drafted by NC
28:00
State. You have no connections there.
28:03
It it doesn't have, if you actually do want to study, it
28:06
doesn't have the programs that you want.
28:07
Can can we really do that with the draft of high school kids?
28:10
It's one thing. Now why are you hearing this?
28:13
It's. It's all over, you know, just
28:15
random places. It's not, I don't think there's
28:18
any validity behind it. But these kind of thoughts are
28:20
out there and high-ranking people want things like that.
28:24
The way it looks at it, a private equity when they get
28:26
involved. But then if there's a financial
28:29
aspect and at minimum you're making, you know, a couple
28:31
$100,000 a year, well, hell, I'll go hang on Raleigh.
28:34
Yeah, sure. We'll see.
28:37
I want to go since we got a minute or two.
28:39
Brett, your mark is going to take his league across to London
28:43
next year. Arizona State and is it K State,
28:47
Arizona State, K State or it's Kansas?
28:49
Arizona State and Kansas are going to play in London.
28:53
I think it's like Week 3 of the week 3 or Week 4.
28:57
It's a late September game. He tried it with Mexico.
29:00
He wanted to take a game to Mexico.
29:02
That did not go over well. But this is this is a done deal.
29:06
This is going to happen. Your thoughts?
29:08
Wembley Stadium, it will be a Kansas home game.
29:10
I saw that is also a piece of this one.
29:12
And it is a conference game, right?
29:14
Yes. As far as I understand, I didn't
29:16
see anything that said that it wasn't.
29:18
But the UD and Jack Classic will be the third Big 12 football
29:21
game in two seasons in Europe. Of course, Iowa State, K State
29:24
this year, TCU against North Carolina next year, that'll also
29:27
be in Dublin. And then this game with Kansas
29:30
and Arizona State. Trying to build a brand, trying
29:33
to do different things but. So what's the difference?
29:35
Why, why, Why are people welcoming this and not Mexico?
29:39
Well, I don't know about that part, but I think the reason
29:44
that this I think can be really smart.
29:47
What about the start time? Because if you put this at 11:00
29:51
central time, just lost in the mix.
29:54
Is this going to be a morning kickoff?
29:56
Is this going to be 830 like we see in the NFL?
29:58
Yes, the answer is yes. Then that makes sense.
30:01
I agree with you. You get the window, you get.
30:03
It's a six. Hour time difference over there
30:05
to here. And what are you going to do
30:07
instead of watching game day? You're going to watch the game.
30:09
You're going to have the game. I think it makes a ton of sense
30:12
in that aspect because you don't put Kansas, Arizona State at
30:16
11:00. Oh, I'm going to tune in.
30:17
No, I'm, I'm going to bypass the Big 10.
30:19
No, I'm going to bypass the SEC because I'm going to watch right
30:23
Kansas and Arizona Stadium. By that time we should be into
30:26
some pretty good games on the schedule.
30:28
I think you have to nail on the head.
30:30
I, I do. I'm not sure who had broadcast
30:35
it obviously, but like, look what Sunday mornings are.
30:38
Sunday mornings I think are gaining popularity.
30:40
And Al Goodell says he wants, he wants every team to play in
30:43
Europe or in Germany, go abroad for one game every single year,
30:48
which is kind of, I think way over the top.
30:50
What I'm waiting for when you talk about the NFL and the
30:53
international games too, when are they going to go to Asia?
30:57
When are they going to go to Japan?
30:58
When are they going to go and do something like that?
31:00
Because I remember way back in the day.
31:03
I don't know if you remember this.
31:04
You're in America at the time though. 89 onward.
31:06
When Alvarez started to turn around, Wisconsin, OK, and their
31:12
first good season, I think their first bowl season, if memory
31:15
serves, they played, I want to say it was Michigan State in
31:19
Japan. It was at the end of the season.
31:21
I don't remember. It was the last game of the
31:22
year. It was in late November.
31:24
So this was a league game. It was a league game that was.
31:26
Now, I don't remember if it was a Wisconsin home game or a
31:29
Michigan State home game. And then it was a one off.
31:33
I think so. I'm not positive if there were
31:35
other games that were involved it didn't Hawaii play over there
31:38
at some point? But that was a long time ago.
31:40
I mean, that would talk about being at the forefront of
31:42
things. Could that be a possibility?
31:44
Is that something with time zones and everything else when
31:46
you put that game? That's to be determined, But
31:49
I've been waiting for that one for a while.
31:51
All right. Feels like you're doing a pretty
31:52
good job in Europe. I'm getting things and building.
31:55
What about Asia? There's a lot of people over
31:57
there, just in a lot of people over there when they go that
32:01
direction. And suddenly, again, not knowing
32:04
time zones off the top of my head, do we have a 11:00 PM
32:07
kickoff? Do we have, you know, NFL after
32:09
dark and something like that? I can go that direction.
32:12
Is that going to work out well for you?
32:13
But just a thought that jumped up there.
32:15
But yeah, I'm almost positive. Wisconsin, Michigan State played
32:18
in Japan. Well, I'm going to look it up
32:19
during the break and we're going to take that break.
32:21
We're going to be joined by Mitch Holtis, the voice of the
32:23
Kansas City Chiefs. When we come back, we'll recap
32:27
the game this past weekend, Look ahead to Monday Night Football,
32:29
Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
32:35
Hi, welcome back Miller and Condon Iowa Sports Radio
32:38
Network. Just to clear something up from
32:39
the last segment, Eric Heft called me the analyst for Iowa
32:43
State football during the break. Apparently they've been playing
32:46
over in Japan for these games started by looks of things.
32:52
I'm on Wikipedia here 77 to 93 and Eric in for me and I just
32:57
looked it up. He's 100% right.
32:58
Oklahoma State and Texas Tech played there and Barry Sanders,
33:02
that was his final regular season game.
33:04
Barry Sanders actually went to a television station in Japan and
33:10
was awarded his Heisman Trophy while over in Japan in 19, 88,
33:16
his final game. And Trenton was right too good
33:19
for Trent, 1993 Wisconsin, Michigan State, he pulled that
33:23
one out. So this is not the first time
33:25
they would have been playing over there.
33:26
Let's get to Mitch Holtis, He is the voice of the Kansas City
33:30
Chiefs. He joins us to recap the week
33:32
and obviously Papa John's central Iowa sponsor.
33:35
This Mitch, got to be honest with you, as I always AM, and I
33:40
know I speak for a lot of football fans, we kind of
33:43
thought it was over. We kind of thought that, you
33:45
know what, this is going to be the year that it doesn't happen.
33:49
And we watched Sunday and we were, Oh my God, were we ever
33:52
wrong. Seemingly, some people were
33:55
throwing dirt on that Chiefs dynasty a little prematurely as
33:59
it looked like a different team with deep threats that obviously
34:03
#15 has now and is about to get even more so.
34:06
Good God, they looked good, Mitch.
34:09
Yeah, first time all three phasers were rolling really
34:12
probably since the AFC championship game of a year ago
34:16
against Buffalo. But Xavier Worthy makes such a
34:20
difference because that and then I told you 2 weeks ago in the
34:24
New York game that getting the horizontal side to side flip
34:28
pass end around jet sweep action is everything.
34:34
But when you get Brashard Smith and Xavier worthiest threats to
34:38
do it, you've got just tons of speed on the field and then
34:41
throwing Taekwon Thornton. But then for the defense now to
34:44
put 3 great games together, 3 great games and taking the ball
34:48
away and then to get a 48 yard kickoff return, 16 yard front
34:52
return, set up a touchdown. I know Baltimore's beaten up on
34:55
defense. I got it, but they're not beaten
34:57
up on offense. And that offense came screaming
35:00
in here at 111 points in three weeks.
35:03
And other than that 71 yard run, in the end the defense pretty
35:06
much held them in check. So here comes a trip to
35:10
Jacksonville, one of the oddest 3 in one teams that I can
35:13
remember, and I don't think anybody believes in this squad,
35:16
but they've stacked up 3 victories.
35:18
It's on the road. You know, Duvall, they're going
35:20
to be fired up down there for a Monday night, a football game.
35:23
They push the Chiefs in the playoffs a couple of years ago,
35:26
Trevor Lawrence, just five touchdowns against 4
35:28
interceptions. Just an odd one.
35:29
Just what have you been able to who unearthed this week when
35:32
you've been taking a look at Jacksonville and maybe some of
35:34
the potential issues that are going to crop up come Monday
35:37
night? Something jumps off the screen
35:40
and off the pizza when you look at these guys, and that is they
35:43
are a fast, frenzied, feisty defense.
35:47
This is taking swimming lessons in the Amazon with piranha
35:51
around you. They you think of Trayvon
35:54
Walker, Josh Hines, Allen, very underrated.
35:57
They get, you know, Travis Hunter in the draft.
35:59
They traded up to get him. They have trying to get this 113
36:02
takeaways in four weeks each game, each game.
36:06
That's four games in a row. They've had at least three
36:09
takeaways in every game. I thought, man, they're going to
36:11
be working on some record. And then I found the 1935
36:15
Chicago Bears had 67 takeaways in 12 games and somehow lost
36:20
four games. But the Jags are taken away and
36:24
then they get points off those takeaways.
36:25
They have 41 points off takeaways. 9 times.
36:29
They have started drives in the opponent 1/2 of the field
36:32
because of the takeaways, and then they've rediscovered,
36:35
recovered Travis ETN. So the fact that he has 1010
36:38
plus runs and 2:10 plus touchdowns, and now Lawrence has
36:43
actually become a complimentary piece.
36:45
And then the other side of this, this is the first time in seven
36:48
games Trevor Lawrence hasn't thrown a pick.
36:50
So they're taking it away, not turning it over.
36:53
This is a solid, feisty young team.
36:56
Yeah, but Spag's defense is just playing out of their minds.
36:59
Tranquil, I thought maybe had his best game in some time.
37:01
There's Chanel down the field covering guys.
37:04
Unbelievable effort out of that. Spag's defense, I don't know
37:07
what he's doing differently, but boy, they're playing at a high
37:09
level. Yeah, that first game was clunky
37:13
for a lot of reasons. And honestly, I just talked to
37:16
Drew literally before I jumped on with you guys, literally like
37:20
within 5 minutes and he was telling me just about the
37:23
energy. The energy so much better and
37:25
then the execution. What Spags does more than any
37:29
team and anybody in football right now, 10 is this whole mix
37:32
and match thing. He's coming at you with a like a
37:35
guy with 7 pitches in the baseball playoffs because he's
37:39
personnel and it's scheme and some of it takes time, but some
37:44
of it takes communication. But they're just right now
37:47
they're clicking and they're going to have to against
37:50
Jacksonville. They've got some weapons on this
37:52
Jacksonville team. But right now, when this defense
37:55
gets going, I mean, they just after the opening draft, five of
37:58
the game, Baltimore goes right down and scores.
38:01
You're thinking, oh, God, here they are.
38:02
They're going to 40 again. They got shut down.
38:04
The Chiefs on Redza are on 3rd down defense.
38:07
The last two weeks are 4 of 20. They held New York of 1 of 10.
38:11
They held the Ravens to three of 10.
38:14
And that's hard to do. So yeah, they're playing at a
38:16
pretty high level, this Chief's defense.
38:18
You get the return of Xavier Worthy also soon, in a couple of
38:22
weeks, you get the return of Rasheed Rice.
38:25
He obviously is dealing with the suspension right now health
38:28
wise. Any concerns there as he comes
38:30
back and how are they working to acclimate them?
38:32
What can he do before he's back from suspension?
38:36
Trent, what we might do, and I say this humbly, we may show up
38:40
at the Drake Relays with A4 by 100m team because these guys can
38:45
fly. This is a lot of speed.
38:47
Now, if you get them all together and keep in mind every
38:51
week since we got Hollywood Brown and 20, they've never been
38:54
together at the same time. We're talking a year and a half
38:57
and that's really close to getting there.
38:58
And then you throw in Taekwon Thornton and Burchard Smith and
39:01
you have alternates to run this relay.
39:04
So what happens is it just everything goes faster.
39:07
And the thing I was talking to about can to have grown, this
39:10
horizontal game opens up the vertical game.
39:13
And what it also does, because everybody still brackets Kelsey.
39:16
He still gets 1 1/2 to two men coverage.
39:19
Kyle Hamilton was like locked in on him.
39:21
You're not going to be able to do that because the four by 100m
39:24
team will fly by you. So it's going to pose some real
39:26
problems in the weeks ahead, especially when Rice comes back.
39:30
But you're going to have to match speed for speed against
39:32
Jacksonville is they may have the other than Ken's Denver
39:36
team, which I think probably the best defense right now in the
39:38
league. You're going to you got to match
39:40
speed with speed. And that's what's going to
39:42
happen in this Jacksonville game.
39:43
It'll be when the Chiefs had the ball.
39:45
It is going to be a light show because they're both sides are
39:48
so fast. Music's playing.
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Miss talk to you next week. Hour 2 coming up next.
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