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Furness Show 4-16: Angie Mentink situation, Eno Sarris, Steve Palazzolo · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Here we are again. Here we are again. What a
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  Speaker 1: week in sports media? It has been huh, what a
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: week in sports media that we are dealing with. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and in different circumstances. The only commonality is female in
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  Speaker 1: the gender in terms of things going on and stories
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  Speaker 1: that are out there. And it's gone viral today.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like there's two different people to post it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a guy from Tacoma or
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  Speaker 1: the guy named Joe Root whoever. It is reposted by barstool,
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  Speaker 1: just the human sewage of of you know, media or
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  Speaker 1: that much. I don't think they like anybody to be
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  Speaker 1: honest with the jesz. They like just it's a cheap shot.
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  Speaker 1: They just like to take cheap shots, which is fine.
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  Speaker 1: So for people and see it. If you're not on
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  Speaker 1: social media, first of all, God bless you, and thankfully
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to be. We do on our just
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  Speaker 1: for our jobs if we're being honest. You know when
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  Speaker 1: I got my Twitter hack, it's three years ago. It
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  Speaker 1: was May of twenty twenty three. Because SOFTI goes, hey,
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  Speaker 1: what a rapping to that? I went and looked at it.
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  Speaker 1: Yesterday we were doing crosstalk. I'm like, yeah, well May
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  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three, I kind of really scaled back
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  Speaker 1: for many reasons, but we still have to peruse it because, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: Twitter for the sports media is kind of our headline service.
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  Speaker 2: Good bad, are indifferent?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't have to be in the newspaper to
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  Speaker 3: break a story anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Now it used to be newspapers and or maybe ESPN
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  Speaker 1: or CBS Sports or Foxsports dot coms Now it's there everyone.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's the job of the insiders. And boy,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, listen to Mike Florio yesterday, his stuff
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  Speaker 1: was softy, it was sensational. Yeah, and fain talking about
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  Speaker 1: the world of insiders. Petros did his own spin on
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  Speaker 1: it at four, which is a little more crass, but
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  Speaker 1: it was still good. But they're both right, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, everyone's making deals and you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you're yeah, I'll make a deal with this agent to
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  Speaker 1: break a story because if I pump up the agent's
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  Speaker 1: tires all those things. But the story today, if you
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  Speaker 1: miss did Angie Mentink, there's a picture or a little
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  Speaker 1: short video posted of her, you know, in the camera
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  Speaker 1: well of a baseball game and her phone and she
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  Speaker 1: had you know, put in it looks like a thing
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  Speaker 1: from chat.
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  Speaker 2: Ai whatever that.
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  Speaker 4: She's asking AI.
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  Speaker 1: What what you know, what question to ask if your
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  Speaker 1: team's getting their ass kicked or something. So so many
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  Speaker 1: things here, there's so much to this and and lots
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  Speaker 1: of things can be true here. Uh this and really
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  Speaker 1: last year too when Angie and Ryan Roland Smith replaced
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  Speaker 1: full time Mike Blowers. Bill Krueger wasn't retained as of
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  Speaker 1: last year, and they went a different direction to the
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  Speaker 1: Marrior's broadcast, and there was a lot said, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of criticism for them, those two, specifically Ryan for other
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  Speaker 1: things and Angie for a number of things. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if it's all misogynists. I think there's you know,
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  Speaker 1: people don't like her style in the booth as an analyst.
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  Speaker 1: They don't think that she should be in the booth
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  Speaker 1: as an analyst because she didn't play men's baseball. She
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  Speaker 1: played obviously some incredible careers of a fast pitch player
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  Speaker 1: at you dub and had that barnstorming stuff with the
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  Speaker 1: silver Bullets or whatever the women's team was for.
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  Speaker 2: A little while.
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  Speaker 1: So there's people that just aren't ever going to accept
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  Speaker 1: her as an analyst because they won't look past that.
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  Speaker 1: There's other people that don't like her style, they don't
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  Speaker 1: like her delivery. It's part of broadcasting. That's a very
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  Speaker 1: subjective thing, and that's fine. You don't like how she sounds,
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  Speaker 1: you don't like her analysis.
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  Speaker 2: Super if you base.
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  Speaker 1: It on gender, then that's probably a different story. I
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  Speaker 1: ask you to look in the mirror at that point.
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  Speaker 1: But if you just say I don't like her analysis,
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  Speaker 1: I don't like her style, I like how she sounds,
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  Speaker 1: maybe she doesn't match up and have the same energy
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  Speaker 1: as Goldie Er there. You don't feel like there's kid.
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  Speaker 1: That's very subjective, and that's that's as a your your opinion, man,
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  Speaker 1: Good for you. That's that's and guess what we all
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  Speaker 1: sign up for this, that's what happens.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of equal opportunity, criticism.
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  Speaker 1: You but you sign up for that this stuff in
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  Speaker 1: this business. And I understand that. We all understand that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we made a change here at the radio
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  Speaker 1: station two days ago, you know, and just talking to
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  Speaker 1: people and we signed In fact, I was talking to
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  Speaker 1: our big boss in this in our building, our big boss,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, like nobody likes to see those things happen.
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  Speaker 1: But we sign up for a lot of things. When
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  Speaker 1: you put yourself in sports media, you sign up for
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  Speaker 1: critique and criticism much like you offer as well. You
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  Speaker 1: offer it for players and teams. That's what we do,
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  Speaker 1: that's our job. And then at the same time, listeners, viewers, readers,
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  Speaker 1: what have you. They offer up their criticism. We all
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  Speaker 1: sign up for that. And so anybody complains about that,
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  Speaker 1: you're being kind of a hypocrite, not kind. If you
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  Speaker 1: are a hypocrite, it's wrong. But for for this case.
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  Speaker 1: In this case, someone record awarding you over your shoulder
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  Speaker 1: without your knowledge and something that's on your phone, there
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  Speaker 1: is an expectation of privacy that on your phone. There's
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  Speaker 1: no expectation of privacy in public in the state of Washington.
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  Speaker 1: That's part of the that's a lot, but there's an expectation,
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  Speaker 1: certainly a privacy if if someone's recording your phone, like
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  Speaker 1: what you have, what you're talking, you know on your phone, that's.
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  Speaker 3: There could be privilege information on there.
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  Speaker 1: There could be a lot of but there's but that's
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  Speaker 1: just wrong then to use it months later or not
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  Speaker 1: on the same day and portray it as something different
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  Speaker 1: is just one of the greasiest things you can do.
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  Speaker 1: So it's turned viral. They did this with Angie. She's
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  Speaker 1: asking the questions on the AI chat stuff thing, and I,
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  Speaker 1: you know, really to me trying to do her job better.
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  Speaker 2: I guess.
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  Speaker 1: You know, she handled it already on Twitter, and everyone,
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  Speaker 1: mostly our our towns media has come to her defense,
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  Speaker 1: me included Barstool Sports is an embarrassment, but we've also
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  Speaker 1: been through a lot of stuff in the last week.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you're watching the Diana Russini stuff, which will
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  Speaker 1: not go away. All the questions come up with that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know where the end game is going to be.
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  Speaker 1: I just feel gross, like sometimes like I feel gross
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  Speaker 1: from this standpoint, no longer can you offer an opinion
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  Speaker 1: or constructive criticism without an attack following, or without people
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  Speaker 1: making it and trying to make it personal. Andie's one
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  Speaker 1: of the best people I've ever met in the business.
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  Speaker 2: I saw her probably who.
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  Speaker 1: Was a week before opening day, I guess out at
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  Speaker 1: Root Sports, which she was cleaning at her desk and
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  Speaker 1: wrapping things up out there because that place is shut
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  Speaker 1: down as of last night with our last KHM broadcast.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, gave her a big hug and just
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  Speaker 1: how you doing? Knowing what had happened. She had kept
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  Speaker 1: it quiet at that point, it was now yet we
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  Speaker 1: all respected her privacy. I'm a fan of hers, always
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  Speaker 1: have been, had a great relationship since day one when
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  Speaker 1: I got here twenty years ago. She's one of those
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  Speaker 1: people that immediately when I came here, walked up to me. Now,
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  Speaker 1: does everybody love her broadcasting?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 2: Does everybody love my broadcasting?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who and what you are. That's fine.
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  Speaker 1: But that's fine, And if you want to offer a critique,
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  Speaker 1: do it in the right way. Say hey, I was
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  Speaker 1: listening to the game last night and I just didn't
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  Speaker 1: like her commentary. I didn't like her analysis. She'll have
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  Speaker 1: no one will have a problem with that. Well, I
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't say that. Some will. Some will, and I get why,
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  Speaker 1: but she wouldn't. It's part of it. But taping somebody,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I just it's it's and then
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  Speaker 1: watching the reaction people come to her fence, and then
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  Speaker 1: other people are called snowflakes or soft or this or that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to our world, man, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what happens. I don't know what happened to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, human beings. A lot of it is hiding
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  Speaker 1: behind a keyboard, hiding behind it a fake name or
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  Speaker 1: an alias. I kind of always ask myself the question
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  Speaker 1: if if your employer knew that you were the one
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  Speaker 1: tweeting and saying certain things on social media, what would
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  Speaker 1: your employer think? Would that employer would they want you
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  Speaker 1: still employed in their company? It takes it takes a
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  Speaker 1: really small person to hide behind aliases. It takes a
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  Speaker 1: really small person to hide behind a keyboard and take shots,
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  Speaker 1: you know, glancing blows from afar. It's kind of one
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  Speaker 1: of the things that's been good about YouTube in a sense,
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  Speaker 1: we see kind of although there's some people with aliases,
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  Speaker 1: I get that, but we kind of see it.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 1: The text line is always fun at four nine four
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  Speaker 1: or five one in feel free to chime in because
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  Speaker 1: on the text line we just see your phone number.
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  Speaker 1: Some phones have a deal where we can see a name, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like we.
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  Speaker 3: See people who log into our systems.
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  Speaker 1: That it is okay, yeah, Like Keith Miller, we see
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  Speaker 1: his name. Our buddy Jeremy, we see his name.
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  Speaker 3: And that's chosen by them.
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  Speaker 2: Right, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But here's the one thing I will always tell people.
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  Speaker 1: I tell people this all the time, and I say
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  Speaker 1: it again. When you text in and you want to
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  Speaker 1: be that guy or that girl, but we'll just say,
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  Speaker 1: we'll just use that guy as a as a general
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  Speaker 1: channel term.
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  Speaker 2: You want to.
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  Speaker 1: Be that guy and you're texting it, guess what, we
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  Speaker 1: see everything you have ever texted here. We see every
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  Speaker 1: it's in our system. I go back and look at
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  Speaker 1: the messages and there's there's people into the text in
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  Speaker 1: and they'll they'll text it in the morning and they'll
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  Speaker 1: take shots at at our morning show. They'll take shots
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  Speaker 1: at whatever midday show we got going on these days,
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  Speaker 1: they'll take shots at me softy fain doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: And some of it's just kind of like, what do
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  Speaker 2: you like? Really? You actually you actually put your finger
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  Speaker 2: to the keyboard and texted that.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder about that. Well, I actually worry about them.
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  Speaker 2: But they thought that was okay.
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  Speaker 1: You think that's okay, And then you look at it,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of times it's like like at one
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  Speaker 1: specific show or person. Sometimes it's at three or four,
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  Speaker 1: but we see you, we see you, We you know
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  Speaker 1: who you are. I would love to know who you are.
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to have you have the balls to say
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  Speaker 1: who you are and tell me where you work, and
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  Speaker 1: tell me how many kids you have, and if your
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  Speaker 1: wife would approve of that crap? Like you're the one
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  Speaker 1: taking shots at Angie today and taking shots and how
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  Speaker 1: that's going. Take a shot at her style, Take a
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  Speaker 1: shot at her broadcasting a bill.
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  Speaker 2: You don't like that, fine, you don't like mine, you.
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  Speaker 1: Don't like jess Anders, softy Dick, doesn't matter, you don't
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  Speaker 1: like Listen, you don't like J. T. Brown or John Foreslan,
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Goldsmith or whoever it is. Take a shot. That's
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  Speaker 1: part it comes to the territory. But the other stuff, Man,
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  Speaker 1: give your head a shake. Look in the mirror, ask yourself,
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  Speaker 1: is that really what you would want your kids to
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  Speaker 1: see you do? Is that what you would want your wife,
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  Speaker 1: your employer to see you do? Is that really who
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  Speaker 1: you are? Is that like what you want to be
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  Speaker 1: known as? Is that the legacy you want to leave?
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  Speaker 1: Is that who you are? If that's who you are, man.
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  Speaker 2: Good miserable human being. You're a miserable, miserable human being.
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  Speaker 2: If that's who you are.
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  Speaker 1: And I know I don't even look I even looked
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  Speaker 1: at the text line yet, I'm sure for nice you're
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  Speaker 1: soft this that I could just.
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  Speaker 2: See it coming. I could just see it come. I could.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's there's someone thinking that out there right now
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  Speaker 1: and getting their chuckles out of it.
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  Speaker 2: That's fine.
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  Speaker 1: Angie flipping Mintink had two damn strokes a couple months ago.
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  Speaker 1: She battled breast cancer a few years ago. Take a
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  Speaker 1: shot at her broadcasting style. Don't don't take a shot
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  Speaker 1: like you did on an old video that was out
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  Speaker 1: of context. That's just garbage and it's gutless and it's
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  Speaker 1: also just sick. And if you're that person, and if
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  Speaker 1: you're the person defending those guys today and you're the
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: one defending barstool man, you got a problem. You got
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  Speaker 1: a massive problem. And screw you.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 7: Sarah's next, It's time for our weekly visit with Enos Sera.
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  Speaker 1: Pick thanks to our friends at Georgetown Brewing. Shout out
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: to our friends at Georgetown by the way, they they
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  Speaker 1: helped us last night put a little bow on our
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: final show ever. I say our final show for the
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: KRACK and Hockey Network ever, but the final broadcast ever
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: sports broadcast, that is.
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  Speaker 4: You have a little Georgetown celebration.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, from the Root Sports studios. We put because you
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: were not Root people. So I'm barely a Root person.
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  Speaker 1: I just happened to work there.
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  Speaker 2: The last night. I like Georgetown, though I know they
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  Speaker 2: were great.
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: They took care of us and we had kind of
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: a bittersweet day as we said goodbye to Root Sports
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: as they now move over to MLB TV, but they
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: have been there for two years. We've been there the
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: last two years. We move on to a different studio
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  Speaker 1: next years. Well, I should just bring our guy on
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: right now. It's the host of Rates and Barrels, also
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: a writer for the Athletic and we're going to just
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: destroy him on his rankings of starting pitchers. In a second, kid,
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: what's going on?
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  Speaker 6: You know?
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  Speaker 2: Sarah's how are you, buddy?
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  Speaker 8: Hey? Before we get to how I'm wrong, I just
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  Speaker 8: want to point out I just want to point out them.
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  Speaker 8: Last week I came on the show and I said,
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  Speaker 8: the offense is gonna get healthy against Houston next week.
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  Speaker 8: This is the time to score runs. And they did it.
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  Speaker 6: They did.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed, you would have liked this the next day. This
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  Speaker 2: was a class.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: And we'll have our buddy Danny O'Neill on tomorrow for
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: his weekly visit. He's a former Seattle Times writer who
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: lives in New York. Now you see radio here is
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: a good friend of ours. We have him on every week.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: And Danny and I were talking last week and we
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: we had him on right after they unveiled the Ichiro statue.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see what happened to it?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 8: Oh my god, you're just like praying. That's not like
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  Speaker 8: the goat in Chicago or whatever. You like the thing
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  Speaker 8: that like, you know, people point back to it.
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  Speaker 5: And they never won another game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it was.
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  Speaker 1: So so that happens. First of all, it's the most
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: mariner thing you could ever have happened. I mean, it's
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: just us, it's our our our afternoon hosts after me,
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  Speaker 1: Dave Softy mal or Is. I think it's his grandmother
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  Speaker 1: or his mother swears that. You know, we have Chief
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  Speaker 1: self here, and that's a very strong Native American community
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  Speaker 1: in our in our area. Seattle was founded on that,
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  Speaker 1: and Chief sells part of the lore of downtown Seattle
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  Speaker 1: and all those things. And she claims that t Mobile
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  Speaker 1: Park was built on the an Indian burial ground and
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  Speaker 1: that's why that's that's why things have always gone wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I honest to God, I tend to believe for him
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  Speaker 1: when things go wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I believe that.
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  Speaker 1: But I said it Danny last week on our show.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if I'm superstitious or not,
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  Speaker 1: but I said, you know what, I think this is it.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is like the equivalent of a slumpbuster.
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  Speaker 2: This is just like the broken.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the all time hits leader. Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 1: His bat breaks. I think this is going to open
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  Speaker 1: up the offense, and they scored seventeen runs the next
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  Speaker 1: two days in twenty nine and four days. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: taking some credit for that as well. I think it
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  Speaker 1: was all planned by the marriage. I think it was
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  Speaker 1: a great, great move by them. Have the bat break
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  Speaker 1: and away you go, and and here we are.
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  Speaker 2: They they get out of it.
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  Speaker 1: Then they have last night, you know, and this is baseball.
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  Speaker 1: Baseball has games like this. But I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: you wrap your arms around that.
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  Speaker 2: I was lucky. I had my final Crack and Hockey
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  Speaker 2: broadcast of the year.
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  Speaker 1: So we're in the studio doing that and I come
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: out and people are like, yeah, man, Mariners lost. I go, no,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: they were up six nothing, they were up six to two.
• 15:55
  Speaker 8: Turn it off.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: What the hell?
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: That's just baseball, isn't it? That just I mean, I
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: hear baseball guy says, that's just baseball. That is just
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: kind of baseball. That stuff happens, right, I Mean, now,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: the bigger question is this. And Andrews brought this up
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: to me a moment ago in our first segment and
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: or No and Chris Crawford did our last our show
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: before me today. Is there any concern when you watch
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: and I think I've asked you this before, but I'll
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: ask you again, Dan Wilson, is, how has he thought
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: of in baseball circles as a manager?
• 16:29
  Speaker 8: Oh, man, I'm I don't.
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: I've gotten the.
• 16:32
  Speaker 8: Vote for a manager of the Year, and I have
• 16:34
  Speaker 8: no idea what to do when I get that vote.
• 16:36
  Speaker 8: And I have a really hard time assessing managers because
• 16:42
  Speaker 8: I think that mostly they're there to enforce the rules
• 16:48
  Speaker 8: that they sort of make in concert with the front office.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: If I could put it there, you.
• 16:54
  Speaker 8: Know, it's like, I'm not saying that the front office
• 16:56
  Speaker 8: makes all the decisions, but like you know, Dan Wilson
• 17:00
  Speaker 8: has a meeting every day with other people and they
• 17:03
  Speaker 8: all sort of go over and from what I gather,
• 17:06
  Speaker 8: most teams have a real sort of sense of like
• 17:09
  Speaker 8: if we're winning, we go with this guy and then
• 17:12
  Speaker 8: this guy, and then this guy and this guy, and
• 17:13
  Speaker 8: if we're if we're losing, we go to this side
• 17:16
  Speaker 8: of the bullpen. Right Like it's there's a lot of
• 17:18
  Speaker 8: mapping things out. They at least do this very much
• 17:21
  Speaker 8: so in the postseason where it's like fits to pitch,
• 17:24
  Speaker 8: like a lot of it's mapped out before. And I'm
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: not saying that they're taking decisions away from Dan Wilson.
• 17:28
  Speaker 8: He's part of those decision making, but it's the manager
• 17:32
  Speaker 8: is now part of the front office in that way,
• 17:35
  Speaker 8: So I can't I see them mostly of managing relationships,
• 17:39
  Speaker 8: managing the media, and being sort of a face of
• 17:43
  Speaker 8: the franchise. So I can't say that I've heard that
• 17:48
  Speaker 8: he's terrible what it does whatever, I do think that
• 17:51
  Speaker 8: it was interesting to take Munos out there for the lefty.
• 17:56
  Speaker 8: I wonder if he was trying to push Merrill out
• 17:58
  Speaker 8: of the game and get Jose Ferrara against Miguel Andrew
• 18:02
  Speaker 8: Harr if that was the thought process. The other part
• 18:06
  Speaker 8: of this is just that Andres Munos this year, his
• 18:10
  Speaker 8: command is off okay, and it's worse than it's ever been.
• 18:14
  Speaker 8: And he's really spraying the fourth steamer in a way
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: that makes him really predictable. That he's like, if you're
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: in the box against him, you can almost say, let's
• 18:25
  Speaker 8: target the slider because he can't put the four seamer
• 18:28
  Speaker 8: in his own.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: And that's what I want to ask you, that's let's
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: let's start deep deep, go a little deeper with him
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: with me, because I think it was the athletic two
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: years ago said he had the best slider in baseball, that.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: He was like an executive.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: You guys, somebody in the athletic did a story, is
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: like the best pitch in baseball, the best four seamer,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: best two steamer, best splitter, best slider, and it was
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I think he had the best one. Where do you
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: see the most regression from him?
• 18:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean he still has the slider is his
• 18:57
  Speaker 8: best pitch by the stuff model, and so he's going
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: to go to that a lot, and I can't I
• 19:04
  Speaker 8: can't fault him on that, but he also has to
• 19:06
  Speaker 8: be able to throw the four team to keep him
• 19:08
  Speaker 8: off that.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: And when you.
• 19:10
  Speaker 8: Look at his results this year on the slider built
• 19:14
  Speaker 8: really high forty nine percent with right and if I
• 19:16
  Speaker 8: told you he had like a two sixty three slugging,
• 19:19
  Speaker 8: he'd say, what's the problem. Well, the problem is when
• 19:22
  Speaker 8: he does go to the four team, it's a twelve
• 19:24
  Speaker 8: hundred slugging because they are laying off of it unless
• 19:28
  Speaker 8: it's right down the pipe.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: And so I.
• 19:31
  Speaker 8: Don't know, maybe he should consider going to the sinker.
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: It seems like he commands a sinker a little bit better.
• 19:36
  Speaker 8: It's not a great pitch to throw against lefties because
• 19:39
  Speaker 8: of the platoon splits. But if he can command it
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: a little bit better, then that's the real thing you'd
• 19:44
  Speaker 8: be looking for. So I don't know if there's an
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: adjustment there to maybe sprinkle more sinkers in because he
• 19:49
  Speaker 8: can command it better, but he needs to find something there. Also,
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: they kick change that last year had a zero slugging.
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: You know, all year didn't throw it a lot. You know,
• 19:59
  Speaker 8: maybe maybe you go slider and you throw some change
• 20:02
  Speaker 8: ups when they're expecting four steamers and you throw them
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: in the zone. He just needs to find something.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: He gets thrown his zone. That's the thing.
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: He's the only thing can thrown the zone as a spider,
• 20:09
  Speaker 8: and that's he needs to find some wrinkle on top
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: of that. I wouldn't put the threat level at you know,
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: I forget which way deafcom goes.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure either the higher number yeah.
• 20:20
  Speaker 8: The higher number bad whatever. I wouldn't say it's like
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: a red light situation and that you know, oh my god,
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: red flags and you know, move the worried. But I'd
• 20:28
  Speaker 8: say that there's some yellow flags here when it comes
• 20:30
  Speaker 8: to this command.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Hard thing was pitching too, especially when you're closer. Like
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: if you're a starter, you got five days between starts, right,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: you can really kind of look at video, look at
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: all the different metrics that you have to you know,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: measure things. If it's a one run game tonight, they're
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: gonna want him back out there, right, Like they're gonna
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: want they're gonna want to roll him back out there,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: and there's just no, there's the adjustment period must be
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: pretty pretty hard along the way. Yeah, go ahead.
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: It's not like he's a great command of the past either,
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: Like we're just asking to have passable command, and he's
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: been really excellent.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: With passable command.
• 21:03
  Speaker 8: So you know, the difference between you know, bad command
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: and passable command is we're talking inches, right, and then
• 21:11
  Speaker 8: you know it's all you're also like you're only as
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: good as your alternatives in terms of, you know, if
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: you want Dan Wilson to do something better, what is that?
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: What is that? Alternatives? Like, who are you going to
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: in this bullpen? That's like very obviously the better choice.
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: I mean, I like Brash, but you know his strikeout
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: rate isn't the closer strikeout right, And the same is
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: true for for air and and Bizardo. They all sort
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: of profile to me is really good seventh and eighth
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: inn guys. So I don't I don't see something on
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: this team where they're like, oh, if it's not Munos,
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: then they've often had that right, like Munya's is behind
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: other guys where you're like, oh, we'll just go to Muno's.
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: Well they I don't see a guy where you're like, oh,
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: we'll just go to who would you do?
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: Brash?
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, Yeah, Brash should be the guy
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: people look at. But I think what you just said
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: their niece to be reemphasized for for fans to say,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: go to Brash to close. If Munos is struggling, what'd
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: you say strikeout rate isn't a closer strikeout rate?
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: I mean he has a nineteen percent strike out rate.
• 22:11
  Speaker 8: League average is twenty three. For reliever it's twenty six.
• 22:14
  Speaker 8: So you're going to allow balls in play and that's why,
• 22:17
  Speaker 8: like you know, we had Tyler Rogers in San Francisco's
• 22:19
  Speaker 8: here for a long time. He was never the closer
• 22:21
  Speaker 8: because you know, balls in play are lottery tickets and
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: we just love to be seen.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: Last night balls in place.
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: August Munims had AGAs Minhams had two outs and there
• 22:33
  Speaker 8: were single single single. Those are all balls in plays.
• 22:36
  Speaker 8: Any one of those strikeout, the game's over. So you know,
• 22:39
  Speaker 8: that's why traditionally closers strikeout rates are twenty eight twenty nine.
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: I'm looking at Mason Miller has a like a fifty
• 22:49
  Speaker 8: five percent strike out rate, but you.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: Know, like Diaz Hells, a lot of the Hells with.
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: A lot of Duran those guys all have thirty five
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: percent strike out rates, so it would be one of
• 22:57
  Speaker 8: the lowest strikeout rates among closers in the league.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I want, you know, sarahs joining us a securacy of
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Georgetown Brewing. I want to bring this up because you
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: mentioned Mason Miller. I wanted to talk about him just
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: for a second before I talked about the starting pitching rankings,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: which are kind of a great read at the Athletic
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: the Athletic dot com. I Mason Miller is, first of all,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: just in total transparency, my son has type one diabetes,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: and so you know, athletes of that level we kind
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: of follow, much like when he was going through his
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: struggles trying to be a student athlete in college. It's hard,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: and type one diabetes is a really challenging thing for
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: a high level athlete, especially in the major league level
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: or NHL, NBA, what have you, NFL. So we follow him,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: we were watching the game.
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: Can I ask a question about it? Yeah, what's what's
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: the most challenging thing about it?
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: Is?
• 23:45
  Speaker 8: It is it just like adding another level to your nutrition,
• 23:48
  Speaker 8: And like it's like.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: First of all, it's diagnosis, which is of all things
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be. And that was Mason Miller's story and the
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: same my son had the same thing. You're late diagnosis
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: high school. Uh, and you're getting recruited, very parallel story
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: for our family. And and all of a sudden, you
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: fo all of a sudden, you lose weight, you lose
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: strength a lot of times if it's a male and
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: he's an athlete, honestly, fatigue, all those things, and they
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: hide it like you know, you don't saying you know,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I don't feel well, I'm you. You have to use
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: the restroom like four or five times a night. You're
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: always thirsty or dehydrated. No, you know, your blood sugar
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: going to the hire it goes the less, you know,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: more fatigue you have. Yeah, all these things kick in,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: and Miller went through all of that and finally you know,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: went to the JC route and which was kind of
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: his route to get to where he is now.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Is different.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: But watching him pitch now, like when you're in a game,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: the big thing is keeping your blood sugar up, to
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: be honest with you, and that's somewhat. That's like, different
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: sports have different challenges. Football is a little easier because
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: you're on and off the field during a series or
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: what have you. Uh, there's a hockey player with the
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Kraken that has it and celiacs and you know you
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: can manage that. On the bench, you have a forty
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: five second shift and get a shot at gatorade or whatever.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: My son had skittles on the sideline and gatorade things
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, so there's you have to manage it.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: But his start watching him like you did the stuff
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: plus for the starting pitchers watching this guy, where is
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: he at compared to other great believers? I know what
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: The sample size isn't large in terms of years yet,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: but man, is he dominant needle?
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I mean some of the best stuff plus
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: of all time. Let me see if I can pull
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: that up real quick. But we've had stuff plus since
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: twenty twenty because they changed the technology then and you
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: can see how the themes go through space and stuff
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: like the twelve the Hawkeye technology that they've had, you know,
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: that's when they got implemented. So we've had stuff Plus
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: in twenty twenty. So that's the that's the context here.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: But No.
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: Number one was uh a manual kluss A. Oh hey,
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: I can't have to say his name, and he's felt
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: like he doesn't exist anymore. Number two is John Duran,
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: and then number three is Mason Miller. You know, just
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: high end, high end stuff what my surprise people it
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: might be higher if it's fastball rated higher. That one
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: O one one O two one hour pitch is his
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: third best pitch.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: By Stuff Plus.
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: And I put that to Mason Miller because I was
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: in San Diego this last weekend and I said, you know,
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: the change up looks pretty good.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: He's like, oh yeah, I got the.
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: Grip from Terry Schoogle And I said, you know, stuff
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: plus things, that's your second best pitch and.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: He goes ahead of the fastball.
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: And I was like, oh, so you know, you slider
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: the best pitch. He's like, dude, I threw all sliders
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: at my maculate inning.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: So his like mid nineties slider is his best pitch
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: and he kind of pitches off of that, so he
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: pitches backwards. That's how that's where modern pitching has gotten to.
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: This guy who's one hundred and two on our fastball
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: pitches backwards.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: God, that's insane.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I mean absolutely same what he does before they go,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: you know, so you did. I'll urge people to read
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: the story of the starting pitcher rankings using Stuff plus
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Scoobale and Schemes were one two in that order. Shocking,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: get before I get to the Mariners. How close was
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: were Schoobale and Schemes one two?
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: I think School is lost in He's he's my guy.
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: Schemes is moving a little bit d low and he's
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: a little bit more of an East West guy, but
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: he might not always get the strikeout that terror. School
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: was more of a North South guy. He's going to
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: get a ton of strikeouts.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Mariners have three in your top thirteen.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: They would be in order Woo at eight, Gilbert at nine,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Kirby at thirteen. That puts the marriage in pretty good company,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: does it not? If you've got three in the top
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: thirteen of your starting rotation.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: That's not bad. I wouldn't think, oh yeah.
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: And then I think they've got a difficult decision coming
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: because that Hancock jumps into my top seventy five on
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: the back end, and you know, what he's done is
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: really subtle, because he's lowered his arm angle and yet
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: added more ride to his forre seamer, and the combination
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: of those has made his four seamer really a great pitch,
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: and he can really dot at the top of the zone.
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: So he's a sideways east west guy that can go
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: vertical with the four seam. And that just makes them
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: hard because if you're standing in the box, you're like, Okay,
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: everything's in or out right. Oh wait, not the for scene,
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: it's up. So he's got two dimensions that he can
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: play in. I think they're gonna have a real interesting
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: decision to make when Bryce Miller comes back. You know,
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: Bryce has options. Bryce has pitched really well in the
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: big leagues. Maybe injury decides this for everybody. Maybe they
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: go to a six. I don't know what it is,
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: but Hankcock seems too good to send out right now.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I agree, And at one point, you know, I'm sure
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: you're aware of this anders right. At one point, Hancock
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: was the guy. Of all those dudes we just talked
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: about men, Hancock was the highest thought of prospect a
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: few years ago before they all reached the big league.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: They yeah, like they loved him, and then you know,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: the other guy's kind of surpassed him. But if he's
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: found his way, maybe Castillo gets armed fatigue all of
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: a sudden because the last couple of starts haven't been great,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: and you shut him down for a week or two
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: or something. But I guess that's a good problem to have,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: you know, when you've got you know, some teams don't
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: have one guy that is the top of the rotation.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: These guys could have four or five.
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: And you know, as much as Gilbert had such an
• 29:31
  Speaker 8: excellent season last year that you know, that last start,
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: I I told him myself, I thought he looked a
• 29:37
  Speaker 8: little gas, you know, like it was.
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: It was.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: It was a long, long season.
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: And so normally you don't go to a six man
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: rotation if you have an ACE, because you're like, oh,
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: I'm not going to get as many innings form my ACE.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: Why would I do that? You know, But if you
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: have three in.
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: The top thirteen, you're not really, you're not taking too
• 29:57
  Speaker 8: much away, you know. And so what you could say
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: is we go to six man rotation. Maybe all our
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: guys are fresher in October, and that seems to be
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: where you know, we could be headed. So why not
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: keep our guys pressure for that part of the season
• 30:11
  Speaker 8: by going to a sixth right now? So it does
• 30:15
  Speaker 8: put a little pressure on your bullpen then because you
• 30:17
  Speaker 8: have one less reliever, so you have to think about
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: everything in concert.
• 30:21
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  Speaker 1: Daily power Player Home from the crack of nine three
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  Speaker 1: thirty pre games seven o'clock drop of the puck that initially.
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  Speaker 2: Was gonna be later if I'm not mistaken.
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  Speaker 10: Right, Yeah, it was originally seven to thirty Pacific time
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  Speaker 10: eight thirty local because it's in Colorado.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that helps you out.
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  Speaker 4: It does.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, on national TV game tonight, so local broadcast only
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• 32:38
  Speaker 1: doing the pregame Anders do the postgame fits it out
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: in the booth for tonight's game against Colorado. Neither team
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: playing for anything, so we'll see there how that goes,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: playing out the string. At least last night Vegas was
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: playing for.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Something, trying to clinch the Pacific Division, which he did
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: with a whim. We'll break it down tomorrow. What went
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: wrong during the year. What the things that did go right?
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: There were a few things.
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  Speaker 5: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: Lane Lambert is going to join us tomorrow on the
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: radio show from the Kraken Community ice Plex.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: You set your alarms. You gonna want to listen to
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: that one boy.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: He had a look on his face last night. He's
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: he's ready to kill somebody. I'll sell all right now.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: I love the red ass. Worried about the interview, but
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I like the red ass. I like the fact this
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: guy's well he and here's a weird thing with him,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: if you're being honest. They wanted to lose that game, yes,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: but he won't ever want to eat But a coach
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: never will, but he would want to lose that game.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: So here's what happened. Seattle's locked into the sixth worst
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: record in the league. Vancouver, Chicago, Calgary, Rangers, Toronto, Seattle,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: then Seattle, then Winnipeg. So right now, Seattle has a
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: seven point five percent chance to have the number one
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: overall pick. They have a seven point seven percent chance
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: they have the number two overall pick. The way the
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: lottery works is weird. The only is zero point two
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: percent chance to have a third pick. Their highest odds are
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: to drop a spot to seven or yeah, drop a
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: spot to seven at forty fun awesome, pretty cool, thirty
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: four percent to have this fifth stay at number six.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: So we'll see where they they end up in the
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: draft lottery. Should I do the old tankathon anders, I'll
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: see what happen? Do it?
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's let's simulate one right here.
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: I'll do one.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: You do one, Okay, I'm doing right now. Let's see
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: where's my tankathon.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: I'll do I'll do one really quick.
• 34:36
  Speaker 10: We got number one ol broll pick Florida, Great, Calgary,
• 34:41
  Speaker 10: number two, three, Vancouver for Chicago, five, New York six, Toronto,
• 34:45
  Speaker 10: which would then go to Boston.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: And then seven Seattle.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: So yeah, oh all right, I got number seven.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I got two on the first one.
• 34:54
  Speaker 10: Oh, let's go I take that. Yeah, absolutely would take that.
• 34:57
  Speaker 10: For those who don't know, there's and Ian's mentioned this
• 35:00
  Speaker 10: a couple of times, the top four are like, supposedly,
• 35:05
  Speaker 10: can't miss buddy, I.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Got two, I got two one back to back. Let's
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: go Calgary Calgary. This would, honestly, I'd be okay with this,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: even though he'd be in our division. I would take
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Calgary gets one. Vancouver drops to three. That's the lowest
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: they can drop, by the way. Uh oh, that'd be awesome. Yeah, Calgary, Seattle.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: The NHL would lose their mind if three three Pacific
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Division teams had one, two, and three Rangers drop a
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: spot to five, the Toronto Toronto, which has a protected pick,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: drops out of the top five, and that pick then
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: goes to Boston.
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: God.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: God, the two teams sign me up right now, the
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: two Canadian.
• 35:46
  Speaker 10: Teams that hate the most, let's be honest, sign me
• 35:48
  Speaker 10: up right now.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: And Seattle sign me up right now.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so yeah, Lane's gonna it's a locker clean
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: out day tomorrow after the game tonight, and we'll have
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Leane on tomorrow. At some point we may check track
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: down a player or two as well, either talk to
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: tomorrow or wait for Monday to play those.
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: We'll see.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I've asked for a couple of guys, so we'll see
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: if they come through with those dudes or not.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but a's tough here.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Seven wins since the Olympic break.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: Did you see Lane's quote last night?
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Well, we played most of his sounds, so what was
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: the quote.
• 36:18
  Speaker 10: The big one was, I don't understand why our hockey
• 36:21
  Speaker 10: team can't sustain a sixty minute game.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: You can need better players and you need better character. Yeah,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: it's that simple.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: You see.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Columbus brought mc bonus back too.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah after he just good for them, yeah, and good
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: for him.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: But yeah, if I'm back, it's gonna be bad for Yeah.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: There's some dudes going, oh God, trade me right now.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: One of them meeting Mason Marchman.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Well he's a free agent.
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he'll be out of there.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: He's he's already a cobble that guy. All right, we'll
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: take a break, we'll come back.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Our good friend Steve Pelozola talking all things NFL Draft next.
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  Speaker 1: Oh check the mic podcast. I'm checking the dates right now.
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  Speaker 1: We are seven days away from the National Football League Draft.
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  Speaker 1: Ladies and Gentlemen and Steve Pelo Palozolo checked the Mike
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  Speaker 1: Podcast thirty third team joined us right now.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, sir, how are you doing great?
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: So soon to the draft? Only seven days?
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: Huh?
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: It's only this. Does it feel like it's come fast
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: to you?
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Or does he feel like you've been just doing this
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: for the last forever now, waiting for this thing to happen.
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: It's it's both like I'm waiting and I'm ready, and
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: then it always feels like, man, there's another one hundred players.
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: I'd love to just watch a little bit more before
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: we get into it. So it's always a little bit
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: of both.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you a non football question for
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: people to know Steve was a professional baseball in a
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: previous life to where he is now. I'm just watched
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: im in the so call me Casino, Hotel, sports Bar, Hawksports,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: hawks Peak, sports Bar, and grill. Kind of hanging out
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: here right now, sixty three TVs. I got a bunch
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: of day baseball games going on right now, so I'm
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: watching some of those, and I ask you this because
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I know there's got to be a story in there.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Major weeks different in the minor leagues when you guys
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: had a rain delay. I think it's the Detroit Kansas
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: City game. And watch right now they put the tarp
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: on and off like six times of this thing, roll
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: it on, roll it off, all this kind of stuff.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: What kind of grab ass?
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: You know, debauchery takes place in a minor league clubhouse
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: during these things.
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: Anything to pass the time. I think one team we
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: were we were watching Seinfeld for one, you know, when
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: I was on one team, actually when I was in Tacoma.
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: When I was playing in Tacoma, the local paper did
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: a story on what we did during the rain delay.
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: And this is I was very nerdy. I got some
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: board game that only my friends and I have ever
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: even heard of. I had it chipped out to Tacoma
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: and started teaching my teammates. It's called Ultimate Stratigo. Don't
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: even look it up. No one's ever played, not regular Stratigo. Ultimate.
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: It's two on two. We were playing that during rain
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: delays up in Tacoma, and I think it made it
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: into the story. So whatever you can find to keep
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: yourself busy waiting to play once again.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: What year was that?
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: That was twenty ten. I was there for a couple
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: months before they sent me down to trouble.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: And do a Google search. I wonder, is that a
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: divish story?
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: That might be a divish T and T story, now
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: that I think about it, that might be Okay that
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: now I'm very intrigued.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Well we'll find that later. Okay, that would be good.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: All right, Steve, let me talk first about the Fernando
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Mendoza thing. This is much like free agency, but maybe
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: more so than anything else in sports. This is the
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: so called lying season, and we're gonna hear in rumors
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: and all these things.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: What do you think?
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Is there a chance Mendoza doesn't go number one? Do
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: the Raiders move that pick?
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: What? What? What do you guys?
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: First of all, what do you guys when you and
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Sam are discussing, is what do you see from Mendoza?
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: And what are the possibilities that that something other than
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: the what we think is going to happen happens.
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: I think it's very slim possibilities. Did anything? I don't know.
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: Are there even stories about there?
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just like they may want to move. I don't know.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: I mean that's yeah, that's a lying season.
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, yes, I expect him to be the number
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: one guy. I mean, if this was two years ago
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: and you had multiple qbs and you know, different guys
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: to choose from, you might say, hey, all these you know,
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: the Cardinals and the brown they might all have different
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: quarterbacks at the top. Maybe they'll start maneuvering for their guy.
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: The Raiders need a quarterback. Mendoza I think is the
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: clear top guy. He has been since pretty much the
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: college football Playoff. I think that's the route that they go.
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: I think the fact that they wanted to trade, you know,
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: trade Max Crosby for those extra first rounders, that would
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: have been an intriguing team building effort for the Raiders
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: to have those extra picks plus Mendoza to try to
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: you know, rebuild that entire team. But I think he's
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: the guy. It's it's interesting because he was not the
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: clear cut top guy coming into the season expectation wise,
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: but he continued to get better and better as the
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: season went on. Made big throws in crunch time, whether
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: it was you know, the Penn State game early in
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: the season, Iowa game, late Oregon game in Oregon. Penn
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: State that I mentioned was unbelievable, him and Omar Cooper
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: connecting on a game winner, Ohio State, big third downs,
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: in the Big Ten Championships, so and then in Miami,
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: you know, fourth and five run every single game. There
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: was some big plays. Mendoza stepped up, but I think
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: he's the clear top guy for the Raiders at number one.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: What do you think about number two and three? I
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: don't want to just talk too but in the next
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: two quarterbacks or even three, Simpson obviously there Drew Aller,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, nuss Meyer, what do you think the pecking
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: order is in terms of the quarterbacks? And is there
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: another first round quarterback in this draft? I know it's
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: all in the ib holder and all that, but how
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: do you see that shaking out? Because I'm gonna get
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: to how it affects Seattle in a second.
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Ty Simpson's the only other potential first rounder.
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: I think I think it could be a situation like
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: last year where Jackson Dart, you know, the Giants traded
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: back into the first to get him. It might be
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: something similar to that with Simpson. I'm starting we talk
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: about smoke and lying season. I'm starting to buy into
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: the connection with the Arizona Cardinals for Ty Simpson. They're
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: picking at three, but they also pick at thirty four,
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: right right at the beginning of the second round. I
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: could see them wanting to take him on the turn
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: right there in the second round, maybe trade back up
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: into the first or the team like the Texans or
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: the Bills that be willing to move down. So I
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: could see the Cardinals being that team. I think the
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: Jets are well stocked for next year to get their quarterback.
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: And I think the Browns are this wild card where
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: they might think that tradeur is fine and maybe they're
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: gonna play Deshaun Watson again, but they might also just
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: be looking to next year's draft class as well. So
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: I think Arizona is the team to keep an eye
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: on for Ty Simpson, and I think after that it
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: might not be a quarterback for a while. Garrett nus Meyer,
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: Drew Aller, Pull Payton, a lot of those guys are
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: gonna be backup options, maybe just later down in the draft.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Whatever happened to club Nick, like what happened to him.
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: Everybody on Clemson was my big question, you know, because
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: I covered college a little bit and you know, think
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: about it a lot. I do some consulting for college teams.
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: Clemson should have been the perfect college football playoff candidate.
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: They had everything you look for in the summer when
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: you're previewing college football. They've got their O lineback, their quarterback,
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: three receiver, there's two first round defensive tackles or defensive linemen,
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: a first round potential corner, and they were underachieving the
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: entire year. Club Nick, I don't think Ever was really
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: a first round candidate, but he just never really progressed
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: and peaked as a junior. And a lot of the
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: Clemson prospects have to answer that question, why did they
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: seemingly peak their junior year rather than their senior year
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: when they should have been going on a college football
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: playoff run.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of us peak early and then it's
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: just all downhill from there. It does happen.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: It happens at very relatable for all of us you mentioned,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: And I want to get to this so like if
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: if Arizona second pick in the second round at thirty
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: four overall, decides they want to go back and get
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: a Simpson along the way, most likely partners, as you mentioned,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: could be Houston at twenty eight, maybe Buffalo twenty six, wherever.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: It might be the Seattle Seahawks at pick thirty two.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: We were having this discussion on our show yesterday, we
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: all kind of believe and think that John Schneider, just
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: based on his history that goes back to twenty ten
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: drafting here, that he would want to trade out of
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: the first round. He would want to move down, he
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: would want to accumulate a couple of more picks. Right
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: now they just have four. How challenging is it? Do
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: you think gonna be for him to move out of
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: thirty two if he wants to?
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: You hear there always has to be a trade partner.
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: And now I'm hearing this described as going two different ways.
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: If you asked me in a vacuum, are there going
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: to be more more trades or fewer trades in this class?
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: In this draft? I would have said fewer in the
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: first round. There's a lot of people, a lot of
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: insiders saying they think they'll see more trades. I'm saying
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: fewer because I think there's fewer blue chip players. I
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: don't think there's the type of targets that teams are
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: gonna want to trade up for. But I think other
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: people are saying, look, there's not enough players to really
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: like in this class. You'll like somebody though, and maybe
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: that's room for more movement. I think I think it's
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: okay for Snyder to trade down. I think it's I
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: think that there'll be some availability. You get that in
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: the back end of the first and then in the second.
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: The second and third round is when you start to
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: see a ton of movement where teams they're gonna go
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: up ten or up fifteen to get their guy and
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: they don't mind giving up a Day three pick to
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: do it, or whatever you know, fourth round or whatever
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: it may be. Pickswaps. So I think there can be
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: some movement, and if Schneyder wants to accumulate a few
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: more picks, I think there'll be some availability. It's just
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: a matter of hey, right players on the board, right team,
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: and you will some team see some teams say hey,
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: we're picking at forty two, Can I get up to
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: thirty two? Can I get up to thirty three or
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: wherever it. I think they'll want to get up into
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: those higher ranges to just go get their guy, like
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: like the Seahawks did last year to go get Emon Warri.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: The one of the things that you know that we
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: always hear with the draft is that and we Mike
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Holmbrin's a big part of our draft coverage, big part
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: of our radio station. It's great to having his his insight,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: his expertise in with us every year. Mike's just awesome
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: and you know, kind of takes this a little bit
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: behind the curtain a little bit and things have changed
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: since he was last involved. But he does talk about,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: you know, what happens, and all these gms will say
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: the same thing. They won't tell you beforehand, they'll tell
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: you after that. We have like whatever it is, random
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: number fourteen, seventeen, twenty. However, many guys rated as first
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: round picks. No team's ever going to say they have
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: thirty two guys rated in the first round, but one
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: of those fifteen or eighteen guys could slip to thirty,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: thirty one, thirty two. So with that being said, how
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: valuable is that thirty second pick for teams to get
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: up there because maybe they want to get that extra
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: year of club I me use a baseball term here,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: club control, right with the ability to have that option.
• 48:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it is. It is extremely valuable. And you do
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: hear the you know they only have fifteen first round picks.
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: It's just like a measure of you know, level of
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: play or level of a prospect. Obviously they know thirty
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: two players are going to go, but it's a good
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: It's just a way of describing, Hey, there's fifteen players
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: that we like that we think are certainly a tier
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: above others in this draft. And you're right. I mean
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: every team might have fifteen or so, but two or
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: three of them might be available at the end. The
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: fifty year option is valuable. I think that makes you know,
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: see pick potentially valuable. It makes the date and then
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: day one you have all day Friday. You hear this
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: every year. You have all day Friday to pick. You know,
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: to trade up to thirty three if you really want to.
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: So that team holding the first pick in the second
• 49:10
  Speaker 6: round holds some cards as well. But yeah, I think
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: the fifty year option is pretty crucial, especially if you
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: do look at a quarterback. You know, if Arizona really
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: does want Ty Simpson and they want to get them
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: at thirty two instead of thirty four, I think that
• 49:21
  Speaker 6: makes sense. If someone wanted to leave frog Arizona to
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: get Ty Simpson again, I think it makes sense to
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: get back into the first and get that fifty year option.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: It is our friend Steve Pellos all to check the
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Mike Podcast thirty thirteen. We've been talking a lot about cornerbacks.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: We think if Seattle does use that thirty second pick,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: more than likely it'll be again, we're just going to
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: base it on need here because Schneider will surprise us
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: and it'll take a tight end even though that's the
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: last thing they need but that. But we think, okay,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: if they do that, it'll be a corner maybe a
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: running back. So we've been talking about corners. I want
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on Chris Johnson from Santeo State
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: is probably late first round pick, could slip to the
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: second maybe not size, speed, all those things. Whether it's
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Chris Johnson, Terrell from Clemson, we just talked about Clemson,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: the Colton Hood guys like that D'Angelo Pons. Who are
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: the corners that you think maybe around late first that
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: might fit what Seattle likes to do to replace Riek
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Wollan and maybe compete with Josh Job.
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: I think those guys are all going to be very interesting.
• 50:20
  Speaker 6: What I'm I don't know if they want to try
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: to replace Greek Wollan's size, you know, like for like
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: I don't know if that's a requirement necessarily, if it
• 50:31
  Speaker 6: is a change, like obviously D'Angelo Ponds isn't going to
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: do that. But first off, with Ponds, I love him.
• 50:36
  Speaker 6: I think he's outstanding. You know, go watch his one
• 50:39
  Speaker 6: on one reps against Jeremiah Smith, his former high school teammate,
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: Ohio state wide receiver who's probably gonna go. He'll go
• 50:45
  Speaker 6: as high as the he'll be the first non quarterback
• 50:47
  Speaker 6: off the board next year at this time, and Ponds
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: is battling him stride for stride in there on a
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: lot of on a lot of reps, Ponds is awesome.
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: And then he goes and he runs, you know, in
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: the four threes. He's fast, he's a good player, he's
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: got ball skills production. So I love D'Angelo Pons, I thought,
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: And then you know, he was listed in the one seventies.
• 51:07
  Speaker 6: He wighed in at one eighty three. He usually doesn't.
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: It goes the other way and he might be too
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: undersized for some people. But I love D'Angelo Pons as
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: a player. I love Chris Johnson as a player as well.
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: I think he does a lot of things extremely well.
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: And I think what you're gonna hear a lot about
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: the corners and safeties in this class. Really, they all
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: like to tackle, they're all willing to tackle, They're all
• 51:26
  Speaker 6: willing to stick their nose in there. I think Ponds
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: does it. I think Chris Johnson can do it. Brandon
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: Ceci's pretty good against the run. So I think there's
• 51:33
  Speaker 6: a lot of good options there into the first and
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: save Avion Torell is the same thing. He was going
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: to go in the first expected to. He runs in
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: the four sixes at Pro Day because of a hamstring,
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: So I think teams have to just look into that.
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: He doesn't play like a four to six guy, but
• 51:45
  Speaker 6: that's usually a non starter for a first second round
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: corner at that type of speed. But he's a guy
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: who could play inside, play outside, playmaker, forces fumbles. I
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: think Avianterrell, D'Angelo Pons, or Chris Johnson all really good
• 51:57
  Speaker 6: options for Seattle or any team top of the second
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: round looking for a corner.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, I was gonna ask about Charell because four to
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: six hamstring issues, Could this be one of those guys?
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Because of that, teams are still well, maybe he had
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: a hamstring, but we're still leary of him, We're gonna
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: be a little worried and maybe, just maybe that's the
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: kind of guy that probably should have been a first
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: round pick, could slip late first, early second, and someone's
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: gonna get the steal with him along the way.
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, this is It reminds me of Kamari Lassener the
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: Texans corner a couple of years ago. He he went
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: to the Pro day and ran something between like four
• 52:30
  Speaker 6: that reported four five six to four six two or
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: whatever it was. And again that's it's slow for a corner.
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: It's on the below average side. Of course, everybody, Oh,
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: Richard Sherman ran you know, in that range, but terms
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: you know, six three and long a completely different type
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: of player. When you're a smaller player, you can't be
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: slow too. But Lasser didn't look slow on the field.
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: I don't think Terrell's speed is an issue on the field.
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: And and they've just you know, they're tenacious. They get
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: after it there and run support, They do all the
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: things you're looking for even if you're not a or
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: three guys. So I think Terrell absolutely, if he falls,
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: could be a second round steal, maybe a third round steal,
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: depending on how much people actually care about that forty times.
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: But it reminds me a lastor who's become an excellent
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: number two corner opposite Derek Stingley on the best defense
• 53:14
  Speaker 6: in the league. So I think Terrell reminds me quite
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: a bit of him, play inside, playoutside, just a good
• 53:19
  Speaker 6: overall football player, and I think a team's gonna love
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: him in the second round.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming you've seen him play a little bit, but
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you about one more corner before
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: I move on.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Have you watched much of Devin Moore from Florida.
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know why you're picking him out randomly,
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: but I like Devin Moore. I like him. He just
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: projected to go maybe late Day two and maybe into
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: Day three, but off ball skills and I just think
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: he's just a good, solid cornerback in the middle rounds
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: and I thought, I honestly thought there'd be a little
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: bit more hype around him. There's a chunk of receivers
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: expected to go maybe in the third round range. He's
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: right in that mix, you know, have the tail end
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: of that maybe right now on the consensus board, and
• 53:59
  Speaker 6: that can hensatory third round borderline, fourth round range. But
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: I like Devin Moore quite a bit, and it's you know,
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: him and a whole bunch of corners in that range
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: I think are gonna be pretty good value. Maybe late
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: late round three and into round fourth. They're still available.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: We discussed him yesterday with our buddy Great Cosell. Also
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: doesn't work with the thirty thirteen. Yeah, and I kind
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: of gave him analyst's choice at the end after we
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: talked to a bunch of the top guys and I
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: said what and he just went on just like you
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: did about more like that's a guy that that probably
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: fits a little bit what Mike McDonald likes to do
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: and all that. So trust me, Steve, it was not random.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: It's not like I'm that knowledgeable. That's why I have
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: you guys on like there's no there's that's not me, man.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: I wasn't doing that safety wise. We they say a
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: lot of nice things, and rightfully still about Taya Cotta
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: with Kobe Bryant leaving and somebody to pay pair with
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Julian Love along the way, and and you know, Tya
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Cotta had a really solid year, But I probably safe
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: to say they're gonna be looking for a safety just
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: look at some of the consensus boards. Steve It, it
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: feels like, can you get a safe on day three
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: that you think can maybe come in and if maybe
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: compete at least for ocado or maybe even find a
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: way into the lineup day three.
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: It's tough. It's one of the tougher positions to project
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: a draft position, I would say with safety because there's
• 55:13
  Speaker 6: so many different roles, and I think of all the
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: safety boards, if you just stacked all thirty two teams,
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: it might diverge the most. But I think I think
• 55:22
  Speaker 6: there are definitely some mid round safeties to be had
• 55:24
  Speaker 6: with all different skill sets too. And again, every time
• 55:27
  Speaker 6: I watch these guys Zakey Wheatley from Penn State or
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: aj Halsey from from LSU, they might be more Day
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: two type of players. Bud Clark from TCU. All of
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: my notes are like, wants to tackle, coming up to tackle,
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: he's ready to hit. They can make plays on the ball.
• 55:43
  Speaker 6: It is a really intriguing safety class. So you've got
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: the stars at the top, the Caleb Downs, Dylan Thineman
• 55:49
  Speaker 6: and Emanuel McNeil Warren from Toledo. But I do believe
• 55:52
  Speaker 6: that second tier of safeties there's a whole bunch of
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: starting caliber safeties. You've got Michael Taff from Texas who
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: is a really productive player and more of a free
• 55:59
  Speaker 6: safety type. I would say it works well coming downhill.
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: So I think there's a lot of good safeties in
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: this class and a lot of you know, and I
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: think you can steal some starters maybe rounds three, four,
• 56:10
  Speaker 6: maybe even round five, depending on where the safeties land
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: in this draft class, because all of them, you know,
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: took a lot of boxes as far as tackle play,
• 56:17
  Speaker 6: you know, play short area, play deep, and add some
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: versatility on the back end.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: It's wild because safeties in today's world.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, Seattle was at the forefront of this with
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Cam and and Earl, and obviously they were very different. One,
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: you know, a free and want to say, a strong
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: a guy that played the post, and Earl and everything else.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: So they had two different, very different safety but Seattle
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: never invested in the safety position heavily, especially in terms
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: of second contracts with those guys. And then you know,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Kobe gets it. Kobe Briant gets himself a hell of
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: a contract, he gets out of here.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: It's it.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: But I say that, look at the draft, like you
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: just said, Caleb Downs is Caleb Downs class by himself, right,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: just a different class. But then you look at some
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: of the consensus boards and there's a pretty significant drop
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: after that, like maybe you might find a guy in
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: the late first, early second, and then a lot of
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: day late, day two, day three picks. So you always guess,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: like you said, every draft ward is different. Maybe how
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: how do teams value with safety? And I guess part
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: of that is how the scheme is right, how the
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: safety has played in their scheme.
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I could spend all day talking about how Seattle.
• 57:20
  Speaker 6: I mean they they changed the way the NFL built
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: their defenses for a while because of Cam and Earl
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: and Germ, And no, there was not one team maybe
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: the twenty seventeen Jags with Jalen Ramsey at corner, Like
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: they're the only team that's somewhat replicated the Seattle Cover
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: three system, where like we've got this pure free safety
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: and a pure strong safety because Seattle had all the
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: prototypes back then, they had the very best options at
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: those particular roles that they have them. But safety today
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: is less specialized, right, so there's you can have a
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: box safety or you can have a guy like even
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: Warre maybe who plays closer to the line of scrimmage
• 57:57
  Speaker 6: or the Kyle Hamilton role. But but it's rare that
• 58:01
  Speaker 6: you just put a guy into one specific role and
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: that's it. Most of the safeties have to play more interchangeably.
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: You have to play more free safety and strong safety,
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: so you have to tackle, you have to be able
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: to cover tight ends, you have to be adept at zone,
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: you have to be able to play single high every
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: now and then. So I think it's it's the safety
• 58:18
  Speaker 6: evaluation I think has changed. After Seattle ruined everything for
• 58:21
  Speaker 6: ten years, everybody's trying to find where's the next camp,
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: where's the next earl? And every draft class I have
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: to say, they don't exist. They're not here. Seattle had
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: all of the unicorns in their defense, which is why
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: they were so good. But it's funny because I do
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: I do think safeties might have to be more versatile,
• 58:36
  Speaker 6: and every now and again, it's like, hey, get Iman
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: Wari into a very specific role, get these get Kyle
• 58:42
  Speaker 6: Hamilton doing what he does, even though he could do both,
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: but like we're gonna, you know, put him in a
• 58:47
  Speaker 6: specific spot at this time of the season and let
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: him shine. But most safeties have to be more interchangeable
• 58:52
  Speaker 6: these days.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: So wait, it's you don't just go out and find
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: a guy like Cam or Earl or sure them every year.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: I because we got a big hockey draft coming up, everyone,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: can't you just go out and get Macklin celebrity or
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Connor McDavid or somebody like that.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Can't you just get that? Yeah, that guy happens all
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: the time.
• 59:07
  Speaker 6: Get the next star, Yeah, just get the next star prototype.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: I'll wrap it up this because you brought up even
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: wor because his probably fast. Go oh, they got to safety,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: got Julian and they got even worry might even worry, Like,
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: how would you describe him because he's not a safety
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: in the typical way.
• 59:20
  Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, he's he's a he's a big nickel.
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: You know, he's gonna play over the slot where yeah,
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: provide great run support, blow up screens. I really thought
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: that he might. So he's a completely different player from
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: Caleb Downs size wise and everything. But but Downs can
• 59:36
  Speaker 6: do the type of stuff that Emon Warri does, and
• 59:38
  Speaker 6: I really thought that his emergence last year was gonna
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: open the door for Caleb Downs. Be sure, of course,
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: this guy's going top ten. Look what even Warri did
• 59:46
  Speaker 6: for for that Seattle defense. But you know, he's he's
• 59:50
  Speaker 6: kind of like your nickel linebacker or your big slot
• 59:54
  Speaker 6: you want him at emon Warrey in and around the box.
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: He's physical, he's gonna tackle, he can cover tight end,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: and he can blitz. He can just do a whole
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 6: bunch of stuff. And it really is this hybrid between
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: a linebacker, a slot corner, and a safety all in one.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 6: And I think that's that's the type of thing that
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 6: Mike McDonald has been able to lean into to use
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 6: to their advantage. And I think even Warrey, that's how
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 6: would you describe him. He's a cross between all those positions, nickel, safety,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 6: and linebacker all in one.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: If we were redrafting today, he'd be a first round pick,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: wouldn't he.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I mean I remember last year at this time, people,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 6: you know, people try to read into you know, who
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: likes whom and what are we hearing about teams. I
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 6: saw him mocked to Seattle at eighteen, which, based off
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 6: consensus boards and expectations, was a little rich. But there's
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 6: not a big difference between eighteen and thirty three or
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 6: thirty four, Not really Yeah, so there were you know,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 6: there were people that knew that Seattle liked him and
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: would have been a really good fit. Hey, here's your
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 6: next Kyle Hamilton. Yet him at eighteen and then they
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 6: get Zabel it was at eighteen for Xable, right, and
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 6: then even Warrey at thirty four whatever it was they
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 6: traded up to and ended up getting both guys. So yeah,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 6: I think even Warre is a first round pick, maybe
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: even top fifteen after what we saw as a rookie.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: All right, you draft nerds out there, you want to
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: get more draft coverage, check the MIC podcast. Uh, Steve
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: and Sam got things going for you. Go check that out.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Check the Mic podcast. Guys do a great job. Feels
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: like it's being updated multiple times a day. I might
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: be exaggerating a little bit, but you got great content.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Go check it out and we will talk to you
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: next week, my friend, on draft Day. Well, hopefully we
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: can get you on draft Day. I'll have Jefs and
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Andrews confirm all that, because kind of crazy week next week,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: but hopefully get you on next Thursday.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll make it work. Appreciate it. I love drafts
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: as always.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: Appreciate that's Steve Pelozola. Check the mic podcast. Great podcast,
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  Speaker 1: go check it out. Three thirteen We'll hey break come back.
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  Speaker 7: Next from the R and R Foundation Specialist broadcast studio.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 7: Now back to Ian Fornesz powered My Seattle Closest sports book.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 7: Snow call me Casino and Hotel on Sports Radio ninety
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 7: three point three kJ R and FM.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 11: Hey in Seattle. Sports guy here with a quick update
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 11: on your Seattle sports.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 9: In the sphere of the Seahawks.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 11: The Mariners blew a touchdown lead with a seven to
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 11: six loss to the Padres. F Andreis Munios has turned into.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: The modern day Bobby Ayella.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 11: The Huskies are tuning up for their annual spring game,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 11: which builds excitement around Montlake except for me, because I'm
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 11: a koog and I'm about as excited as that as
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 11: Demon Williams holding a press conference reversing his decision for leaving.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 9: Hey and depressed Seattle sports guy here. I don't know.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 9: Mariners blew a big lead again.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 12: Pretty depressed watching the bullpen Dan Wilson thinking he's catching
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 12: but he's supposed to be the manager.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 12: I might look up Megan Rappino's speeches and try to
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 12: get myself motivated.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 9: I don't know, it might not work, but at least
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 9: it's nice out. I'm gonna go see the cherry blossoms.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: That's a couple of good ones today.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: And oh man, oh man, man, old man.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 10: Who do you think is more excited for Husky Spring Practice,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 10: Kooch's or down Williams after coming back?
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: I think I'm just got I got the popcorn out
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: for that.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's like you.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: Can spin it however you want.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: You can say whatever you want if you're Jet or
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: demon or anybody. The The reality is he didn't want
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: to be there, like he wanted to leave. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: he wanted to leave.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: I just want to know what the locker room is like.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it's fine. Nothing to see here, move on.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's get I'm not the one that
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: just came in, and I'll read at the end it's
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: a classic yep. Yeah, Jess, did you have some early
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: from earlier the show?
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: Did you want to read several of them?
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 13: Actually, so this is obviously we were talking about the
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 13: shade that unfortunately Angie has been facing here and a
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 13: lot of people are in quite a lot of support
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 13: of what you had to say. So, you know, here's
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 13: one that's level headed. This day and age, nobody can
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 13: have discourse. Nobody can have a conversation without somebody having
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 13: a problem.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 13: Read their exact words, but uh, okay, that one just
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 13: disappeared because so many more are coming in anyway, Also apparently,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 13: and this is just according to a text because I
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 13: have not watched it, but in fact a barstool show
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 13: that I watched this morning, they were calling it BS
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 13: that the guy recorded her and they did have her
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 13: back Portnoy is a clown and a lot of their
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 13: stuff sucks, but a lot of it is enjoyable as well.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 10: I like, oh, go ahead, yeah, I like this one
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 10: to kind of lighten the mood a little bit. From
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 10: the four two five question for Ian with Canadian roots
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 10: is it's spring travel season. Are you scared to spend
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 10: a night in Koloonna, Kamloops or medicine hat Like I.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: Am no, no, okay, so let's see we'll go through those.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Sorry, kolowna gorgeous Okanagan like phenomena, like on the lake.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: Ye great, I mean that's a vacation spot. So you're
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: loving that. Cam Loops is a cool little town on
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: the Thompson Rivers. Okay, so that's okay. I like camp
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: I like Campbell's kind of cool little town. Ye, good
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: golf there, bringing golf clubs. You know you're watching kid play,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: so you can't do that. But Campbell's isn't bad. The
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: hat's a different deal.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: I'm curious.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: It's borderline Prairies, but it's still in Alberta, Okay, so
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: it's not really oil country because it's further south.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know if i'd be scared about.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: The hat, but it's not for you.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm not going to vacation there.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: It's better than Leftbridge, which is basically Salt Lake North.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: It is. I mean, it's very high concentration, if you
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: know what I mean.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: So yeah, if I'm ranking them Colonna Campbell's medus not one,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: two three, I wouldn't be afraid. I just probably could
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: find better places to go than the hat. Tell them
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: let's go play tournament in Calgary instead.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not that far. It's closer anyway, right.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: The hat's a I mean, if like A and W
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: they got like eighteen of those there, like you guys
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: ever go to an A and W.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have been to one.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no good. Yeah, and you get poutine
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: at am W in Canada, so that's not bad good.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: We did not have that.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see. I can't believe the holder of that approach.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: People crapping an ANGI like, have you never googled anything
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: for your job?
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: Unbelievable? Then this one? Why is the intodamn negative on
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: the air starting to get old?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 9: Well?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not starting to get old.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 6: I amim.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: Also, have you ever listened to Ian on the air
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: that's you?
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't snap off.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 6: No, I honestly know.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: Snap Can you save it for a good reason?
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: I don't really. Things don't bother me like they used to.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: This one bothered me. Yeah, you know, next time I
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: just asked me I had to make an argument during
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: hearing in court.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: I'm sure my client won't mind. Ha ha.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: Listen, we could we could have a debate about using
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: AI to help you in your job all day. And
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if there's a right answer to
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: that because it's all still so new right, Like like
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: I and I'm just I'm just not smart enough to
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: use it, so that's fine.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm supposed.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: To make I think it's supposed to make you smarter.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not smart enough to use it, so I cannot
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: like and I would not. I wouldn't do it, But
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: that doesn't mean it shouldn't be done and it couldn't
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: help you.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: It's a tool.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: It's a tool, right, Yes, I mean I resistant computers
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: back in the day, so.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: I mean it's the same thing as Google like sometimes.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 13: I mean, you know, I've worked in the PAC twelve
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 13: what used to be the pat twelve for a very
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 13: long time. And pronunciations, you know, when I have to,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 13: when I have to call out me Siona al Petea
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 13: base name, I need to get some confirmation on some things.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: I have no idea what you said.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: He was a really good defensive lineman two.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Five three, And you have a problem with barstool not
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: left wing, bleeding heart wackle enough for you.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: I've never heard them call someone a puke and a snake.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 6: Let me see.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: I always try to figure out when people because I
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: could find I go in here, so that would be
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: that would be someone thinking that I'm that side of
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: the aisle. Then I've got other people on that side.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: I'll think I'm on the other side of the aisle,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: so I think I'm doing a good job of that.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: You have no idea where I stand up stuff.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Let's see Boo Expanse say everyone in the kids, you're
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: a talented, fair and respectful.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: You guys got a good vibe going go Kobs.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, let's go.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 13: And I predict a big fight tonight between the Crack
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 13: and an Avalanche. You're gonna have a bunch of young
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 13: guns out there trying to prove what they can be.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: Good to watch.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: There's nobody having Watson's down. There's not.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: I'd say the over under on a fight tonight is
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: zero point five less than one.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: Hey, that's to be wrong.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing they're not going to because Avalanche have
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: no Avalanche going to the playoffs. They don't want to
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: get a guy hurt. Seattle's going into the off season.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: Some of those dudes already have cobble booked. They don't
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: want to do that. Is I go, It's going to
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: be a gameable, a little shinny game tonight.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: Right, It's going to be careful.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: Why break was hi and and why I know we
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: always reach for the dump button.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: Shitty shiny, shiny.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: All right, read the good one because that's the one
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: that I know.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 10: I don't even know this area code from the four
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 10: four three. Just wanted to spread the love. You guys
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 10: do an amazing job. Seriously, thank you.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: A lot of people, a lot of people saying this, Uh,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: no more decency in this country carrying some homage says
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: all you nailing And I'm not sure what happened either,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: but recording any one's phone has creepy as blank and
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: he has always on point.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: But love her anyway.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: I think that's well said, well said. I think that's
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: really well said. Let's see I text the day. Let's
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: do it, okay, two A six. I don't like I
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: don't like Mike Benon. He can't possibly be that nice
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: of a person all the time.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 13: Kenny, dude, that's the one thing that Softie always says
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 13: about him, Like, what is his advice?
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: He has to have some skeletons.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: You have to have a dark side.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way, uh, Baltimore, Maryland?
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 13: Is that.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: I don't like Mike Benton. The funny thing is, when
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: I first saw that text, I don't like Mike Bett.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: What like Mike Ben, he can't possibly be that nice
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: of a person all the time, Kenny, I listen, there's
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: part of me that doubts it too, Like I Yeah,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: when he worked for the Silver Tips and I was
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: working at Fox thirteen, he called me all the time.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: Hey, come up, do a story? Can you do this?
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, dude, you're so nice? Like, what is
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: wrong with you?
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: I have not seen otherwise I'm not seen otherwise.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: Actually, you know who, you know who? If you had
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: these two guys.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: In the same room at the same time, you would
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: have an overload and overdose of nice and I'm not
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: sure if you could ever recover. And those two people
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: are Bento and Nico.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 13: Oh my god, yeah, I mean I thought you were
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 13: gonna say Riz, Oh, then.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: You're just done.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: If you put Nico, Riz and Benton all in the
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: same like in like if we would have was Bento
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: at the Mariner thing, the.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: Mariner had the happy hour for the media, Oh yeah,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: he was.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, God, that would have been Now that Okay, next year,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: this is my.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Plan is gone. Damn it.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 13: We'll have a celebration for Riz and we'll all be invited.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: Can I just because I.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: Would love to have like Rizzy, Benton and Nico all
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: together and just stand back.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: And watch the niceness overload.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: It would be the most positive vibe in the history
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: of man. All Right, we'll take a break, come back,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: softy joints next. All righty, then, ladies and gentlemen.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: Here he is.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, he's fighting some Twitter battles today.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: I see.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 14: The battles to fight. I think you're stupid and I'm
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 14: right and you're wrong. And the story. I mean, look,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 14: there's guys, there's got to be some line that we
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 14: all just can agree on turns you into a creep.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 14: There isn't, apparently, David and Film, there is somebody's phone
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 14: while they're on their iPhone without their consent and without
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 14: their knowing about it, and then putting it on social media.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 14: I mean, how big of a creep do you got
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 14: to be to do something like that? And then, first
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 14: of all, it wasn't even from last night's game. It
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 14: was from who knows when a couple of weeks ago
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 14: at t Mobile Park and the Jackasses waiting and waiting
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 14: and waiting for the Mariners to have a game like
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 14: they did last night, so he can put it out there.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, we've.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 14: Got we know who this guy is.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: By the way, who is it?
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 14: You know what I'm not going to say because it's
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 14: at the request of Angie. I spoke to her on
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 14: the way over here, okay, And she doesn't want to
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 14: make this guy's life miserable like he tried to do
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 14: to her.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: God, she's a better person than most of us. Mander,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: I mean on a billboard, by the way. Well, no,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: because when you said when you said it, I was
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: thinking to myself, this is a bad fight, because you've listen,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: if we want to get into the social media world,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: you've got like one hundred and fifty thousand followers. What
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: the hell it is like? You could blast somebody pretty good, fella,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: like you really could. I know you wanted to, but
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: she told you not to. That's what happened.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 14: She did, so I didn't.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: I didn't want to.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 14: I didn't want to quote the guy. I didn't want
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 14: to spread the video anymore than it's already been spread.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 14: So I just replied to him directly and just said, dude,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 14: take this crap down. Yeah, come on, dude, what are
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 14: you doing barstool? Well, and Ian, here's the thing and
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 14: Dick and I and Jackson. I'm sure we'll talk about this. Yeah,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 14: I don't give a cra if you're critical of her
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 14: or not. Yeah, be critical of her, I said, podcaster.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 14: It's a public figure. It's a big girl. She can
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 14: handle it. I mean, all of us are in this business.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 14: We all know it's a it's a criticism based business
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 14: in a lot of ways. And you know we're we're
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 14: not naive to all that. But this isn't about me
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 14: being upset that people are criticizing Angie as a broadcaster.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 14: If you don't like her style, you don't like you know,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 14: her tone, then whatever, that's your prerogative. But can we
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 14: not all agree that what this jackass did by filming
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 14: her phone. First of all, she had a stroke a
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 14: couple of months ago, so who knows what she's dealing with.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 14: And then number two, I gotta be honest with you.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 14: I've always, you know, said that. Look, man, I'm always
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 14: looking for ways to reinvent the wheel, as I'm sure
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 14: you are. You know, I'm going on you know, the
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 14: Internet and looking at thesaurus and synonyms for the same
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 14: words so I can say the same thing fifteen different ways.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 14: I don't know what she was doing. I mean, you
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 14: want to be critical of that, that's fine. But I
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 14: my my emotional BS meter, and the the thing that's
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 14: got me worked up the most is the jackass that
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 14: filmed there.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: Well, the other thing got bothered.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 10: This video isn't even from last night.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: And listening to the show. We just said that. Yeah,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: we just talked about it.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 14: But that's but here's has stuff going on back, he's.
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  Speaker 2: Got he's got a lot, he's got Jackson to deal with.
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  Speaker 2: I get it.
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  Speaker 14: Uh so purposely sat on This is the point that
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  Speaker 14: Andrews was taking again that we made a few minutes. Yeah,
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  Speaker 14: I mean whatever, dude, it's just you know, we talked
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  Speaker 14: about you said it.
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  Speaker 2: I said it.
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  Speaker 14: Ian started interrupt. It's just another example of what a
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  Speaker 14: dumpster fire that app has turned into. We we're all
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 14: dumber for being a part of it, and that includes me.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: We all are Anders and Jess and I talked about
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: this is the first Segmenty, exactly what you just said.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: If you want to criticize Angie, if you don't think
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  Speaker 1: she's a good analyst, you don't think she's a good broadcast,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: or you don't want to That's fine, because that happens.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: People criticize you me. I'm going to criticize the guy
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: doing the post game show for the Cracking tonight.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: His name is not Mike Benton. I'm gonna criticize that guy.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: He's brutal. Uh you know. But but that's what you
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: silent for that. But you saw that last night. By
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: the way, yeah, same guy. I thought that guy was
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  Speaker 2: pretty good, did you okay? Better than Bento?
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  Speaker 14: Benon's just yeah, I'm finishing with him.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: You know what you should do. Let's take a picture
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: of Betton's phone and put it on the internet. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I don't want to see what's on
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  Speaker 1: his phone because I think, don't you think there's a
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: dark side.
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  Speaker 6: There, because nobody's that perfect.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: We had the best text today, Softy, you love this.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta I know, you gotta go. I gotta say
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: that this is the best text ever. It says I
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: don't like Mike Benton. Now that was the first thing
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: I read.
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  Speaker 2: Like what he says. He can't possibly be that nice
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: of a person all the time? Can her?
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: He can he can't.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 14: Actually he is, he actually is.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: If you put Benton Nico from Como and Rick Griz
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: in the same room.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: What would happen?
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  Speaker 14: By the way, did you hear you heard the clip
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 14: from Bonus the other day?
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we played this game played.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 14: Did you hear the guy that was asking the questions?
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 14: Did yes, just sound like Rick Rizz. Yes, we played
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 14: that on yesterday's show. I looked at Dick and I said,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 14: are you think of the same thing I'm thinking?
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: He said, Rick Rizz.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 14: I'm like, yes, It's unbelievable how much that dude sounded
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 14: like Rick Rizz.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: So we've got a rip Rick rizzdoppelganger. We've got multiple
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Jackson doppelgangers. Oh yeah, Patrick Reid, Yeah, or just the
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: guy that called it calls in every now and then.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do this, do that, all right? Sounders
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: lose Typer's I think that was a bad call, should
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: have been off side. Here we go, Uh, all right?
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: What do you got coming up to last calls last night? Mane,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: It wasn't it wasn't bad up.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 14: I'm just trying to well, we're here at you dub
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 14: Jed Fish gonna hop on with us again this afternoon
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 14: run three twenty or so.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 9: All right.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 14: Uh, Christian Cable is gonna pop by from on my
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  Speaker 14: lake dot com. Brett boone good night to have him
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 14: on after the Mariner melt down against San Diego yesterday.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 14: And then Everett fits you not ever it fits us,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 14: Ever it fits you well join us to wrap up
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 14: the crack of the season before they.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: Easy Everett something he joined that was the hell of
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: a promotion by you for the game.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 6: To night by the way to Yeah, this game means nothing.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: It well if you're playing honest, it does not mean Is.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 14: This one of those games where we might get to
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 14: see a couple that maybe donny Brook's out there.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: No, Because here's the thing.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: One team's going on vacation tomorrow, the other one starts
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: the playoffs on Saturday.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 6: So nobody's playing the night for anybody.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: Nobody wants to hit anybody hell last night, Andrews, Is
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: there a hit last night in the game.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if there was none.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think there was one body check last night
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: in the game. So playing out the string, baby, all right,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: have a good show.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: I'll see it.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: For the mild mannered and marginally objectionably Inverness, this is
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: paddled day, saying so long everyone,