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A Documentary, a Dog, and a House With Rules · PNW Haunts & Homicides

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  Speaker 1: Someone made a true crime documentary about my death. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm still here. A few months ago, I got an
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  Speaker 1: email at three in the morning. Life Rights Inquiry. Untitled project.
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  Speaker 1: Wes Bennett. Documentary producer. I looked him up. He'd done
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  Speaker 1: two films I actually recognized. The kind that get nominated
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  Speaker 1: for things. He said he'd spent the past year developing
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  Speaker 1: a story about me. Wanted to talk. I couldn't imagine
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  Speaker 1: what about my life was worth documenting. Hi, Cassie. Hi, Caitlin. Hi,
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  Speaker 1: creepy people.
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  Speaker 2: Hello!
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  Speaker 1: Hello! This is PNW Haunts and Homicides, where we chat
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  Speaker 1: about true crime, the paranormal... We are doing something a
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  Speaker 1: little bit different today. We're still probably going to do
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  Speaker 1: a tarot reading. I don't know. We'll see how we
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  Speaker 1: feel when we get there. We have to. Okay. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: That's our thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of our thing. I came across a story
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  Speaker 1: that I thought, holy shit, if I told someone to
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  Speaker 1: write a story that would somehow combine tarot our two
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  Speaker 1: genres flawlessly, what would it be about? It would be
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  Speaker 1: about this. This is that story. Murder and ghosts? Maybe.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe. A little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Or is it like a bank robbery and cryptids? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: that would be so cool. Bigfoot robbed a bank.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That would be sick. That would be sick.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: Damn it. Okay. Okay. So I had a different story
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  Speaker 1: by this same Reddit user that I actually reached out
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  Speaker 1: to them about first. Oh, cool. Yeah. Okay. So PieEater727,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much because I almost was like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: be cool. I definitely was. It wasn't almost. I was
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  Speaker 1: definitely like, be cool, be cool, be cool. because I'd
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  Speaker 1: already gotten their approval to read a different story, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, what if they think we're just greedy now?
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  Speaker 1: But I was like, if I can't read any other
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  Speaker 1: Reddit story possibly ever, I want to read this one.
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  Speaker 1: We're starting with a scary story that somehow is the
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  Speaker 1: stuff of both of our nightmares. We'll also hear about
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  Speaker 1: an unsettling encounter that And then maybe we'll see. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: we'll wrap up our time today with what I thought might,
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  Speaker 1: depending on the interpretation, be considered a palate cleanser. So
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  Speaker 1: we'll just see how you feel about it when we
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  Speaker 1: get there. Someone made a true crime documentary about my death,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm still here. Oh! Spooky.
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  Speaker 2: It reminds me of like when celebrities, like they, someone fakes,
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  Speaker 2: puts out that they had died and then they read
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  Speaker 2: it or like their friends read it and like try
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  Speaker 2: to contact them and be like, are you dead, bro?
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  Speaker 1: Are you dead, bro?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, okay. All right. Well, save your guesses, interpretations,
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  Speaker 1: and pee until the end. A few months ago, I
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  Speaker 1: got an email at three in the morning. Life Rights Inquiry.
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  Speaker 1: Untitled project. Wes Bennett. Documentary producer. I looked him up.
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  Speaker 1: He'd done two films I actually recognized. The kind that
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  Speaker 1: get nominated for things. He said he'd spent the past
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  Speaker 1: year developing a story about me. Wanted to talk. I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't imagine what about my life was worth documenting. He
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  Speaker 1: signed off with a coffee shop three blocks from my apartment.
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  Speaker 1: He was already sitting when I arrived. Latte on the table,
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  Speaker 1: made exactly how I take it, down to the extra
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  Speaker 1: shot I usually get. Hell yeah, me too. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: this is where Cassie gets so invested. Yeah, extra shot.
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  Speaker 1: She's a Derby's girl. I save all my points to
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  Speaker 1: buy the extra shot. A leather folder sat under his
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  Speaker 1: hand like it might try to leave without him. We
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  Speaker 1: talked about my life, my childhood, my job, the street
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  Speaker 1: I grew up on. At first, it was almost flattering.
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  Speaker 1: I remember relaxing into it, laughing at something he said.
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  Speaker 1: He had a charm you didn't notice until it closed
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  Speaker 1: around you. Then he mentioned a third act. Is he
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  Speaker 1: going to kill her?
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  Speaker 3: I figured it out.
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  Speaker 1: A stretch where I go quiet.
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  Speaker 3: Pull away.
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  Speaker 1: Get hard to reach. The front door, one night, wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be locked the way I left it. No forced entry.
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  Speaker 1: I was so confused. Asked him what kind of documentary
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  Speaker 1: was this supposed to be? True crime, he said, like
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  Speaker 1: I'd missed something obvious. I laughed. The alternative was worse.
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  Speaker 3: Who's crying?
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  Speaker 1: He looked at me the way you look at a
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  Speaker 1: child who's asked something idiotic. Open the folder, absent-minded. Photographs.
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  Speaker 1: My building. My hallway. My front door, shot from an
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  Speaker 1: angle that didn't exist unless the camera stood inside my apartment,
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  Speaker 1: looking out. Ooh, I got chills. That's creepy. My chair
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  Speaker 1: screeched against the floor before I knew I'd stood. Wes
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  Speaker 1: closed the folder with the same calm he'd opened it.
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  Speaker 1: We already have most of the footage, he said. I
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  Speaker 1: just wanted you to know your side gets told too.
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  Speaker 1: Seemed like the ethical thing to do. Dude, this is
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  Speaker 1: really creepy.
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  Speaker 2: Is he like the documentary serial killer where he like
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  Speaker 2: Does the documentary about the killing, but like he killed them?
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  Speaker 3: Could be.
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  Speaker 1: I blocked his number that night. Email, phone, the production
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  Speaker 1: company's main line. A week of nothing. One night, my
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  Speaker 1: neighbor mentioned in passing that a man had come by
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  Speaker 1: asking questions about me for a film project. He said
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  Speaker 1: it as a compliment, like I'd made it big. Couldn't
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  Speaker 1: remember the name. Was pretty sure he'd signed something. I
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  Speaker 1: swear things in my apartment started moving around after that.
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  Speaker 1: A mug two inches from where I'd set it. A
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  Speaker 1: chair turned toward the window like someone had been staging
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  Speaker 1: it for a shot. Ooh, it sounds like some books
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  Speaker 1: that I read.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: I stopped sleeping right. Awake at strange hours. Certain I
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  Speaker 1: heard a shutter click. Hide under the covers. Hold my
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  Speaker 1: breath until my chest burned. I never saw a camera.
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  Speaker 1: That absence became its own kind of animal. A wrongness
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  Speaker 1: under the skin. The way you feel a fever coming on.
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  Speaker 1: I moved. Told no one the new address. Not even
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  Speaker 1: my mother. That's exactly what you should do. I know, right?
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  Speaker 1: Kind of sounds like you got the right idea. You're
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  Speaker 1: in wit sec now. One sleepless night. I opened a
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  Speaker 1: streaming service looking for something to fill the quiet. A
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  Speaker 1: thumbnail stopped my thumb before my brain caught up. My face.
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  Speaker 3: Badly lit.
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  Speaker 1: Mid-laugh. A title underneath. Plain sight. A documentary. One hour,
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  Speaker 1: 33 minutes. Released today. My hands went cold before I
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  Speaker 1: pressed play. The first 20 minutes were the coffee shop.
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  Speaker 1: Our conversations. cut tight, scored with ominous strings. Wes's voice
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  Speaker 1: pitching to a version of me who looked far more
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  Speaker 1: frightened on screen than I remember feeling in the room.
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  Speaker 1: My old building, my neighbor telling the camera how we met,
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  Speaker 1: my front door filmed from inside looking out. No. That
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  Speaker 1: angle again. A news segment, the kind that runs after
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  Speaker 1: a body turns up. a reporter at the edge of
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  Speaker 1: a tree line, floodlights, officers moving through underbrush, heads down,
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  Speaker 1: sweeping flashlights over the ground. The reporter said my full
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  Speaker 1: name into the microphone. Cut to my mother in the
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  Speaker 1: house I grew up in, sitting too straight at the
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  Speaker 1: kitchen table, hands folded like she's bracing for news that
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  Speaker 1: hasn't quite hit her yet. She looked into the lens,
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  Speaker 1: said how she misses her daughter, wishes she could hear
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  Speaker 1: her voice again. The tree line again, closer now. A
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  Speaker 1: stuffed rabbit, half sunk in wet leaves. The one that
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  Speaker 1: slept on my bed since I was six. The one
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  Speaker 1: sitting on the shelf behind me right now. The camera moved, slow, reverent.
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  Speaker 1: There I was, face down, in the dirt, a coat
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  Speaker 1: I don't own yet, hair fanned out wrong. I remembered
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  Speaker 1: my own voice, high and cracked, screaming at the television
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  Speaker 1: that none of this happened, that it wasn't real, like
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  Speaker 1: the television could be argued with. Then, my new apartment.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, a static shot of my front door. Heavy breathing,
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  Speaker 1: like someone standing too close to the microphone. I looked
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  Speaker 1: up from the screen. My front door was open. I
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  Speaker 1: slammed it shut.
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  Speaker 3: Locked it.
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  Speaker 1: Called the police with my back against the wood. They
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  Speaker 1: came fast. Walked the apartment. Checked the hinges, the frame,
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  Speaker 1: the fire escape. Nothing forced. Nothing broken. Nothing missing. I
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  Speaker 1: told them about the TV. Told them the counter was
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  Speaker 1: still crawling. They just needed to look. Okay, so this
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  Speaker 1: is where I'm going to interject and say, you know,
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  Speaker 1: at the bottom of the screen when you're watching the show. Okay, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Not the counter was like crawling with ants. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's where my head went first, which is how you
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  Speaker 1: know that I live. In a place with a lot
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  Speaker 1: of greenery. Yeah. Because we have ants all the time.
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  Speaker 1: No matter what you do. There was nothing. Just a
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  Speaker 1: blank screen, they said.
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  Speaker 3: Kind.
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  Speaker 1: The way you talk to someone who's had a scare
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  Speaker 1: over nothing. They told me to get some rest and
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  Speaker 1: left for the night. The documentary didn't stop. It doesn't stop.
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  Speaker 1: That's the part I keep circling back to. Awake at
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  Speaker 1: four in the morning with the runtime bar, still sitting
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  Speaker 1: at five minutes remaining, no matter how many times I check.
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  Speaker 1: Five minutes of a thing that hasn't happened. Counting down
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  Speaker 1: to a version of me in woods I've never been.
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  Speaker 1: I sleep with the rabbit now. Make sure it's on
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  Speaker 1: the bed every night before I check the locks.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if I'd want it with
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  Speaker 2: me if that's a part of it. I would maybe
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  Speaker 2: get rid of it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if getting rid of the singular stuffed
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  Speaker 1: animal changes anything. It could. Butterfly effect. I'm still here.
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  Speaker 1: I want that on record somewhere that isn't their footage.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still here. I'm still alive. I'm still here. Dude,
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  Speaker 1: that's so creepy. Is that the end? That's the end.
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  Speaker 2: That is so creepy to like have a documentary with
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  Speaker 2: the person who was murdered in it like talking. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Like I know people use like past videos and things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: During the production.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Because you shouldn't know that this person is going to
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  Speaker 1: be murdered. Yeah. So many things. Oh my God. All right.
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  Speaker 1: This next one is actually a Pacific Northwest story. Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 1: I like that. By OK The Nomad. Okay. The Nomad.
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  Speaker 1: The Nomad. Dog perceives things in my little cabin near
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  Speaker 1: Mount St. Helens. Dash, dash, dash. Posting in real time. Ooh.
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  Speaker 1: I'm at my little cabin in the middle of nowhere
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  Speaker 1: near Mount St. Helens in Washington State. My dog just
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  Speaker 1: did this weird thing he has started doing at the cabin.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, he is doing it now. It only happens
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  Speaker 1: when it is dark outside. Here's what happens. All of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, he becomes super alert. Body frozen, tail up,
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  Speaker 1: eyes fixed on something across the room. Only there's nothing there. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: there is. You just can't see it, but your dog can.
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  Speaker 1: He often tries to walk up or follow what he
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  Speaker 1: is seeing. He just did that a few seconds ago.
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  Speaker 1: He just stares vigilantly like he's watching prey or something.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever he is seeing, he sees in various parts of
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  Speaker 1: the cabin. He goes and checks corners, etc. He will
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  Speaker 1: do this for much of the evening. Really, the whole evening. Ooh.
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  Speaker 1: He is not a hunting breed. He is just a
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  Speaker 1: little cute rescue with an underbite. Oh, I love an underbite.
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  Speaker 3: So cute.
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  Speaker 1: Tonight, I asked him if he wanted to play his game.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of those dog games you can buy where
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  Speaker 1: they find hidden treats. Like a puzzle? Yeah. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I'm picturing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I play this game with him every night and he
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  Speaker 1: loves it. He gets all excited when he sees me
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  Speaker 1: pull out the game and fill it with treats. He
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  Speaker 1: barks with joy when I ask him if he wants
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  Speaker 1: to play. Oh, that is so cute. Tonight, he was
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  Speaker 1: so intent on whatever he was looking at, he didn't
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  Speaker 1: even notice when I loaded his game. Dude, something's there.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't look at me when I asked him if
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: he wanted to play. This is a dog who is
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: highly motivated by food, too. Finally, I interested him in
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: trying to play. He made a few half-hearted attempts, but
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  Speaker 1: he'd stop trying to make a treat appear and start
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: looking at his whatever. He didn't even finish the game. Usually,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: he plays it full-heartedly and we do two rounds. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't even bother him with the second round tonight. He
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  Speaker 1: hasn't always done this in the cabins. It started maybe
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: a few months ago. I don't live here. It's more
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  Speaker 1: a vacation cabin that I come up to on weekends. Crap.
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  Speaker 1: Now he's whining a tiny bit at whatever he sees
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  Speaker 1: and looks at me like he wants to show me
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  Speaker 1: what he sees. He just jumped off the couch to
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  Speaker 1: go after whatever it is. Oh my god, I can
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  Speaker 1: like see him in the cabin like typing this out.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting creeped out right now. even more creeped out
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  Speaker 1: by writing this. I love the cabin. It's my place
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  Speaker 1: of peace and I'll never stop coming here. But ick,
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  Speaker 1: I'm creeped out. I wish he'd stop doing this. This
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  Speaker 1: has nothing to do with my story, but my cabin
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: is in major Sasquatch country. I thought Sasquatches have been
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  Speaker 1: reportedly seen here more than anywhere else in the country.
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen one myself, but Sasquatch is well-liked here.
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  Speaker 1: It could be part of the story. Could be. It
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  Speaker 1: could be. You know what is part of the story?
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 1: Just a short little update. Oh, that was the end? Okay. Well, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Then I want an update. Yeah, you want an update.
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  Speaker 1: Update to dog perceives things at my little cabin near
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  Speaker 1: Mount St. Helens. Hey, everyone. A couple months ago, I
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  Speaker 1: posted about my dog acting strange and Getting the super
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  Speaker 1: alert and walking up to walls at my cabin as
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  Speaker 1: if he perceived something. Here's a little update. After the
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  Speaker 1: weekend I posted in real time, we came up to
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  Speaker 1: the cabin a second time. At night, he was still
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  Speaker 1: at high alert and spent the evenings stalking his prey.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty much the same as the weekend I posted. Now
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  Speaker 1: we are here a third time and what does he do? Nothing.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing.
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  Speaker 1: First couple of nights here, he was on alert a
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  Speaker 1: little bit at the beginning of the evening, maybe 25 minutes,
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  Speaker 1: then nothing. For the past five days, he isn't even interested.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, he's just sleeping in front of the fire.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm feeling a little guilty and worried that he
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  Speaker 1: is bored after all the fun and action when he
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  Speaker 1: could spend the entire evening stalking. I'm glad he stopped though.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't done anything different here at the cabin compared
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  Speaker 1: to several weeks ago, but the autumn is spectacular here
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  Speaker 1: in Washington and I've taken up a new hobby, animal tracking.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just beginning. The dog and I go to the
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  Speaker 1: nearby lake bed, which is a reservoir that is drained
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  Speaker 1: after summer. It is really easy to see prints. but
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  Speaker 1: I'm just getting into it and need more practice. So far,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I can basically do dog, not dog. Although... I.
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  Speaker 3: Know, I know.
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  Speaker 1: Although I think I saw fox prints and possibly a cougar,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm not going to claim the cougar because I'm
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: not sure. Thanks for all the help on my previous post.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to read some comments. Okay, I have
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: one thing to say first. Yeah, you got to get
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: in there. Actually, two things. I feel like there was
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: rodents in the wall. Oh, maybe. Just like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they were there and went away. But wouldn't you
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: hear it?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe not always. Like, I know a dog could, like,
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  Speaker 2: hear it way better. I don't know. Something was in
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: the walls or something. Or it just, like, got used
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: to the dog and, like, stopped. Like maybe it was
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: checking out the dog or like the dog just got
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: used to the entity. Something like that. But also about
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  Speaker 2: the prints.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. I know how to tell cougar prints. Oh, really?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like they have like the stilettos.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. That totally makes sense. Okay. Cougar print. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to look it up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because like you mean like their little nails? No. Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. That was so funny. You fucking meant
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  Speaker 1: like cougar town.
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  Speaker 2: I meant like, yeah, they wear stilettos instead of like
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  Speaker 2: a wedge.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. What cougar in her goddamn mind is
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  Speaker 1: actually wearing stilettos? I don't know. It was just a funny,
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  Speaker 1: I thought.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. It's funny now that I get it. Got it.
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  Speaker 3: Got it.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Got it. Got it. I know nothing about animal prints. Yeah,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I feel like you should have been forced legally to
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: say that. I guess so. I see where your brain went, though.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: And that was smart.
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  Speaker 3: Was it?
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Because they got, like, the stiletto clause. Was it? Was it?
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, stiletto clause. I get it. I have
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: to go. So, one of her comments here. I don't
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: know if this was actually the top comment, but they say,
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  Speaker 1: I remember your post. With him stopping his anxious behavior,
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if a bear or some other apex, they
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: say creature, but apex like predator, right? I mean, had
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  Speaker 1: been stalking around the cabin.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: But with winter approaching, has gone into hibernation or elsewhere
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: for easy food.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: That makes sense.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: It's not a bad theory, to be honest.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Because you might not necessarily hear it with your human ears.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, they're smelling it. Probably is kind of
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the thing. So if we were going to go with
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: like a logical explanation, I feel like this is a
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: good one. Or it was Bigfoot out there. Right. I mean,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: it could be that. Because he would still smell Bigfoot.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I think it was Bigfoot.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Now that I'm thinking about it.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: They're in Squatch territory. I take it back. Yeah. No,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: it was definitely Bigfoot. Could have been fucking Batsquatch. It
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: could have been. Mount St.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Helens.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Mount St.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Helens.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: It was Batsquatch.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Just saying, man.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: They go on to say, it might be worth going
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: on a survival course in case you are ever lost
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: in the woods. Even the best can have a bad day. Also,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: firearms training with bears and things about. Better to know
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: how and never need it than don't and wish you did.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Bear mace is for sure a must.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Which I'm inclined to agree with that. That's a must
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: for just anything, just like in your apartment. Yeah. We're
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: finally getting around to watching Fargo. And listen, if you
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: haven't watched it yet, well, congrats, because we are those
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: people that haven't watched it yet. It's not a spoiler anymore.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: The show or the movie? Fargo. Yeah, the show. Okay.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I've seen the movie, but I haven't seen the show. Oh, okay.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen the movie either. Well, what? Anywho.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Steve Buscemi? yeah well so here's the thing there is
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: a big can of like bug spray that comes up
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: in the second season and that's what it makes me
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: think of and i was like good for you judge
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: there's a wood chipper in the movie a wood chipper
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: in the show uh not a wood chipper there's another
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: body destructing device yeah you Okay, I'll go see them.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Just for the accents alone. Honestly. Well, and now that
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: we went and saw Wine and Crime and then we
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: did the Cannon Beach trip where we actually got to
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: meet them, Chris was like, he's really enjoying their worst
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Man of Sultan accents. It's really cute. It's so cute. Okay,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: so the rest of the comments. If you go hiking
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: a lot, invest in the emergency SOS satellite phone things.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: They can get signal where a normal phone can't. Also,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: let people know roughly where you were going and what trail,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: as well as when you think you should be back.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Sorry if you know this already, but I watch a
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: lot of missing hiker stories and stuff like that.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's good to comment to have even if
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: the poster, the OP knows, like anyone reading it, you know.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: If you have info, put it out there. Who cares?
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, you never know. Somebody lurking could benefit even
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: if the OP doesn't. Yeah. I feel like that's fair.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: The OP responded. Thanks for the advice. There was actually
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: a cougar who came into the little cabin community and
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: attacked a dog. Dog is okay. Right in front of
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: a bunch of people. The owner scared him away. Most
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: people think it was a juvenile male who got amped up.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Aww.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Kate, you remember Cocaine Bear?
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Cocaine Cougar.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Cocaine Cougar.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Sequel, Cocaine Cougar.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Just saying. I haven't seen Cocaine Bear, but. Okay, the
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: rest of the comments. This sort of thing happens rarely,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: but it does happen. I'm asking my kids for a
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: trail cam for Christmas so I can see what goes
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: on outside the cabin at night or during the day,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: which I also think is really smart. If you set
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: it up to record, you can even, you know, kind
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: of thumb through the footage and check and see if you,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: you know, before you go up the next weekend, you
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: can see if somebody's been, you know, kind of. Yeah.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: How else are you supposed to catch Sasquatch? Right. Exactly.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Unless it malfunctions. You have a responsibility.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: He's like an interdimensional being who fucks up with technology.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Well, listen, you got to try. You got to try.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: What if you catch like something else, like a not
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: deer or like something like a skinwalker or something?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Nah, I don't want to talk about that. No trail
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: cams for me.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I'm good.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I don't need to see what's in the forest.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Nah.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I'm all good.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I like scary stuff, but like, I don't know, creepy
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: forest creatures, like, Unless it's like Jimothy or something.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: You know? I think I'm all set. Just, you know,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: across the board. I don't know. I think maybe I'm good.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know. With the weird raccoon.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: With the spinal deformity.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: He's so cute. I think maybe I'm just all good.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I think. She's scared of Jimothy, you guys. I'm just,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I'm scared of everything. And I feel like our listeners
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: know that. Yeah. I feel like for some of you,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: it really keeps you coming back. Next episode, Jimothy.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: I will go.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: To actually the first story that I got from that
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: same user, you know, because he wrote the true crime
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: documentary one. This next story is.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Also by Pie Eater.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: 727.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Title is... I inherited my uncle's smart house. It came
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: with three rules. Smart house? Yeah. Is this like that
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: house from that Disney movie? Totally.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Wasn't that called smart house?
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. I think it's basically the same.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it's just like a Disney movie.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Well, it turned out scary because, like, the woman who was, like,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: the AI of the house, like, tried to take over
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: and whatever.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: But the house was so cool because they had a party.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: And to clean it, they just all sunk into the carpet.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Like, they didn't have to do anything. That's pretty cool.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: It just cleaned itself. Is it this, this, that kind
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: of smart house? It's totally that smart house. It's that
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: exact smart house. Yeah. For sure, Zs. I met my
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Uncle Herb exactly once at nine years old. A funeral
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: for someone I can't remember. He stood in the back
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: the whole time, avoided photos, scanned the room like a
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: security feed. All I knew was that he worked in tech.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: My mother didn't seem keen to tell me more. My
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: only interaction with him was a quick handshake. Lasted maybe
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: a second. He looked through me like I wasn't even there.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: 20 years later, a lawyer called me out of the blue.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: My uncle was dead. He left me his house in
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: the will. Was I really all he had?
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Oh God, no, it's like 13 ghosts.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Maybe.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I'm like referencing all these movies.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: You've never seen.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: We don't want it to be a 13 ghost situation.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: It's just like that. That didn't end well. Well, it
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: ended okay. Well, we've already established this one's basically a
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Disney film about a Disney house. What could go wrong?
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: There's ghosts in the basement and they're all being released.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: The place sat alone at the end of a long
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: and winding gravel road, swallowed by dense brush. Felt like
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: entering a portal to another dimension. Inside were nests of cables,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: thick as roots. Tangled masses like untended wilderness overtaking a
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: forgotten landscape. Sensors and hubs in every room, blinking soft blue.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: The tangled cords, like, Reminds me of Chris and how
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: he would just hate that.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: He would hate it. I should have saved this story
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: for an episode that I read with Chris because it
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: really would have been nightmarish for him.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll still read it to him and record his reaction.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: cord control or what do you call it yeah no
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: cord control yeah cord management cord management yeah yep there
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: it is i didn't recognize half of what i was
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: looking at i'm impressed that she knew what the other
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: half of it was Sheehy. I'm sorry. I keep gendering
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: this person.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You're like, I don't really know. I'm not sure, but.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I know. And in the last story, we did eventually
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: get a gender because the mom was talking about the daughter. Right.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we get a gender reveal in
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: this one. Felt like walking through Willy Wonka's data center.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: On his way out, the lawyer pressed a post-it note
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: into my hand. Number one. Keep the hallway light on
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: between 9 p.m. and 6 a.m.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Dude.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Number two. If the light on the kitchen speaker turns
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: solid white, leave. Do not pack. Get out. I hate that.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I don't like this. Number three. When it speaks, answer.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Never initiate.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Signed, HP. Harry Potter? Hewlett Packard?
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know who that is. That's a computer brand. Oh,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know. OHP. I got it.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: My uncle's initials at the bottom. A dead man's checklist.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Cute.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I laughed about it that first night in his recliner
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: with a glass of his good skin.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Honestly, if I were to leave like a big house
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: to somebody, I would probably leave like weird cryptic things too.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Like, ooh, don't do this. You would also leave cryptic things.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, cryptic things too. That's kind of a good idea though.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: It's like an after death prank.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Right? I ended up falling asleep at 8.55. Woke up
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: at 3 a.m. to the hallway lit gold. Humming like
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: a low church organ. The sensors blinked like nothing changed.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: But something had. I could feel it in the air.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I started keeping a lamp next to me after that.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Made sure to set an alarm for 8.55. Felt stupid
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: for doing it. Did it anyway. One night, I came
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: downstairs for tea. The kitchen speaker's light had gone from
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: its usual pulsing blue to a low, dim, like it
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: was thinking hard about something. I just stood in the
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: doorway and watched it. I don't know how long. Enough
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: that my drink went cold. How long had I been there?
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Weeks passed. The house started to feel less like an
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: inheritance and more like a routine. Lamp, At 8.55, tea
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: before the speaker changed, a life built around the house's
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: rhythms instead of my own. Some nights, standing close to
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: the hub, I swore the pulse matched my heartbeat. I
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: told myself, that's probably just what smart devices do now.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Biometric syncing. Uh-huh.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's totally normal. I wouldn't worry about that at all.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Four months in, I ended up breaking rule number three
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: on purpose. Share loneliness more than anything. Don't talk to it.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: I sat at the kitchen table, said out loud to
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: no one, are you going to talk to me or not? Alexa,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: are you going to talk to me or not? Oh man,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: you just pissed off a lot of people. You're welcome.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: And remember, Whatever happens here could happen to you. Is
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: that what it says in the story? Did you say that? No,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I just said that. Oh, you're creepy. I know. It's
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: spooky season. Caitlin got creepy on us. The blue light steadied.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Out of the speaker, it spoke. My uncle's voice, or
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: something built from the memory of it, I guess. It
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: asked me how my mother was doing. My uncle must
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: have built some kind of AI assistant into the walls
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: before he died. Fed it, years of himself, until it
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: became a crude imitation. Rule three.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: I answered.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Same as always, I said, not knowing what else to.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: The house just responded with a low thrum. Contentment? The
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: white light came later that week. Hmm. I stood in
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: the kitchen doorway, watched as the speaker turned the color
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: of bone. No. My heart pulsed a new rhythm entirely.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Some primal response evolution forgot to erase. I remembered the note.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Leave.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Do not pack. Get the fuck out. I didn't go.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Months of a being that knew my mother's name. My
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: uncle's voice, worn like secondhand skin.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Leaving.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Felt like abandoning something that already had a piece of me.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: No, bitch. Told you to go.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Go. Yeah.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Leave.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Listen to the dead man. Yeah. After that, the rules
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: seemed to loosen. Like training wheels, I'd outgrown. I'd forget
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: the light some nights. Wake to darkness and a dead
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: blue sensor. Nothing would happen. The white light eventually returned.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: The house talked more now.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Told me.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: About my uncle as a boy. Like casual small talk
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: between friends. It started asking questions of its own. What
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I remembered about being nine. A funeral. A car ride afterward.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Staring at the back of my mother's headrest. Wondering what
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: she'd look like in the casket instead of the stranger.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Biting the inside of my cheek until the thought finally stopped.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: I never told it about that. I never told anyone
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: about that. I can read your mind. I ran for
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: the stairs. A gentle beep emanated from the hallway. A
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: room I'd never noticed before. What? Inside, at the center, crumpled,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: into himself, was what remained of my uncle. Mouth open,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: wires burrowed into him like roots.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: What?
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: No!
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: A soft blue blinking where his ribs used to be.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I have a vague memory of what happened after. Destruction.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: A crowbar from the garage. The sound of a hub
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: shrieking in pain. My uncle's cries, room by room. The
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: kitchen speaker being ripped off the wall. Darkness. Silence. I
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: don't think the house fought back. I've been in a
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: hotel for the past few weeks. I still sleep with
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: the lamp on next to me. I listed the house.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I don't remember writing the description. Must have been on autopilot.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I mentioned the hallway light. That it runs on its
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: own schedule. Nine to six. That the kitchen fixture has
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: a sensitive bulb. Best not to touch it. That the
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: voice assistant is responsive. appreciates being spoken to. That's the
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: opposite of what you were supposed to do. I mean,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: at least that last one. I read it back after
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: posting and finally understood what I'd done. I was passing
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: along a debt I hadn't finished paying. Hoped someone would
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: carry the load so I wouldn't have to feel the
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: pull of that place anymore. Did you mention the dead
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: body in the room? I check the listing every night now.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: No offers yet. I say something close to a prayer.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: That somebody looks at those photos of the sunlit hallway.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: The sleek kitchen speaker. Doesn't think twice. That somebody signs.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: God help me. I hope they don't answer. Whoa. Is
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: that not so creepy?
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: So her uncle was like the computer of the house? Yeah.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, he became part of it, I feel like.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Is that not? That is creepy.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Do you think, I kind of am getting like a
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: 13 Ghost vibe from it where I think he kind
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: of like, because in that movie, the uncle like lures
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: his nephew in to like use him as part of
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: like a ritual. So, like, did he, like, lure someone
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: else in to, like, also become part of the house,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: the smart house to make it more powerful?
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: I think it's funny she just left or they just
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: left and, like, there's a literal body connected to wires in.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: A room that you never noticed before. Nobody will notice that. Well,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: they didn't notice the room. Maybe they wouldn't. Maybe it's
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: like the Harry Potter room. Oh, my God. The room
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: of requirement where it only shows up. when you really
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: need it that could be I suppose.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: So weird I don't know why that one was the
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: creepiest I.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Know right yeah oh god I don't even know I
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: feel like it's almost like a dead tie though really
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: like a true crime documentary being made about your real
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: life in real time I'm like oh my god but
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: something about like that like creepy technology like that feels
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: like apocalyptic so I don't know I really like.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: These like they would make like good short scary Like
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: a short, scary series.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Um, I think in honor of our St. Helen story,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I'm going to use the dog tarot. Oh, okay. Yeah.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: For the purpose.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: For the purpose.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: For the purpose. And the one that survived the cougar attack.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: I know. That's so sad.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: To poor baby. It was okay.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: I know, but. He probably looks like this right now.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: He traumatized. It's all cuddled up in a blanket.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: He's fine.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Sending vibes. I hope no one listening ends up on
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: a documentary. Seriously. Unless it's a very positive one. Yeah.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: About how your life is so totes awesome. You're the
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: longest living person ever.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: What are you feeling? Yeah, I feel like that's good.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I'm going right between the P and the M. Ooh,
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  Speaker 1: for the pie man.
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  Speaker 3: Pie eater.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, interesting. Okay, you're going to have to look at
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: the book. It's leashes. So I think cups? Yeah, they're cups.
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  Speaker 1: It's the eight of cups.
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  Speaker 3: You pulled it up, right? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want me to read what this says? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: A dog can wear only one leash and one collar
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  Speaker 1: at a time. Not true. Charlotte wears a collar and
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  Speaker 1: a harness frequently.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, so why are there eight of them hanging on
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  Speaker 2: the wall?
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Because you like options.
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  Speaker 2: Relationships like leashes can fray and outlive their usefulness. Upright,
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  Speaker 2: you remember each and every leash hanging on those hooks.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Associate every one of them with a season of your life.
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  Speaker 2: But only one leash is in good shape and fits well.
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  Speaker 2: You know which one it is. Ask for it. Wear
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  Speaker 2: it proudly to the park. And leave the unraveling, ill-fitting
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  Speaker 2: collars and leashes behind. Aww. That's kind of interesting. I'm
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  Speaker 2: thinking of the house, like, with all the cables and things. Like,
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  Speaker 2: they said we're all jumbled up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And, like, a bunch of leashes all entangled. So, our
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  Speaker 1: keywords are... Turning away. Cutting losses.
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  Speaker 3: Decline.
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  Speaker 1: Dejection, and seriousness. This card often pictures a person with
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  Speaker 1: his or her back to us, which the dog tarot
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  Speaker 1: shows a dog with his back to us walking away,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: which famously leashes for walks. Sometimes a waning moon overhead
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  Speaker 1: symbolizes decrease. When the Eight of Cups appears, a situation
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  Speaker 1: has become untenable and you have decided to turn your
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  Speaker 1: back on it. The Smart House. The Smart House. Bye.
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  Speaker 1: This is definitely, it's Smart House all over.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you know what's interesting about the two stories, though,
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  Speaker 2: is like, was it the middle one you read with
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: the Bigfoot, the dog?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the cabin.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that was the middle one.
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  Speaker 2: So, like, the last two stories you read were both about, like,
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  Speaker 2: a house and, like, maybe being creepy and, like, that
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  Speaker 2: person could have left the cabin forever and never went back,
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  Speaker 2: but they chose to stay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then the second one, they chose to leave.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That is interesting. I didn't intend originally to read those
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  Speaker 1: in the same episode. Oh, last sentence of the description.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Now you must strike out in another direction. The upright
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: interpretation says you wish things had turned out differently, but
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: you can't salvage a matter and you realize you must
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  Speaker 1: abandon it. Oh, I realized, too, the first one, they
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: left their apartment. Yeah, they did. Oh, my gosh. That's
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: so crazy. I didn't even make that connection.
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  Speaker 2: Two people leaving in between one who stayed.
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  Speaker 1: It's time to let go and get out of the
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  Speaker 1: situation that has failed, despite your best efforts. Well, I mean,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know about despite your best efforts. But anyways,
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  Speaker 1: move ahead with determination, find a new direction, and learn
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  Speaker 1: from your experience. In a reading about money, an investment
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  Speaker 1: hasn't paid off or you've lost money through no fault
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  Speaker 1: of your own except perhaps not seeing things accurately. Like
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: if you can't sell a house you inherited? Maybe. Cut
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: your losses and conserve your resources. If the reading is
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: about your job, the Eight of Cups may recommend pouring
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: your heart and soul into an endeavor. I feel like
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: this is the uncle in the tech house. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Or the person who made the documentary. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Two like very passionate like career fields. That's interesting. Don't
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  Speaker 1: let distractions throw you off course. Sometimes this card advises
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: leaving a job that no longer interests you. In a
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: reading about love, this card can mean ending a relationship
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  Speaker 1: that's lost its spark. Conversely, it may show you getting
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: serious about a partnership, giving it your all. You're no
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: longer interested in casual flings. Extra excerpt says, when you
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: feel most like holding on to something, it is usually
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: the best time to let go. That's a tech house
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: because it was like.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Right? That's creepy. Okay, and then that last extra excerpt,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: it's from... A happy pocket full of money. I want that. Wait, what?
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  Speaker 1: I just, I was like, I just looked down and
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: I was like, a happy pocket. And I was like, HP. Oh,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: I thought you were saying it was literally like quoted HP.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, no. No, that is weird, though.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I never would have picked up on that. Happy pocket.
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  Speaker 1: Harry Potter. You be the judge.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh, that's cool.
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  Speaker 1: I liked it. That was fun. I really like this one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. I did not see like all of the parallels.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: And honestly, I have a few stories that I was
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: like super excited about and we can't read them all
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  Speaker 1: in one episode. But the true crime documentary one, I
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: like have been trying at the bit. Yeah. Like, yeah. No,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: that was good.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That happens, too, when I... I feel like when
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: I pick Reddit stories, like, there ends up... Like, I
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: pick a ton, and then I either have you, like,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: pick a number or whatever, or I'll just, like, randomly pick.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: But it's, like, there always seems to be, like, a theme.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. A vibe. It's crazy because, I mean... quite literally
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: in this case, we sort of put this together on
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: the fly.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: And I knew I had a lot to work with
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: and I could kind of just do what I wanted, but.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: And they're all so different, but like have some sort
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: of like connecting invisible string, if you will.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: Well, should we do that thing?
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Have a creepy ass day.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: We'll see you next Thursday. Unless you get eaten by
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: a smart-ass. Oh, God. Or a Sasquatch.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Or murdered by the documentary killer.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Don't do that. None of those things. Watch out for
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: them stiletto prints, y'all. Keep an eye out.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I can't.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: I can't. I can't. Oh, my God.