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INTERVIEW: Ressa Tessa Talks New Book 'What(TF) Do I Do Now?, Life After Going Viral, Finding Self-Love + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Hold up. Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up.
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  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: You all finished or you all done?
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  Speaker 2: Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Just Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God.
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  Speaker 2: We are The Breakfast Club. Lawn and the Rose is
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  Speaker 2: here as well. We got a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, indeed.
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  Speaker 2: We have Teresa Johnson. You know her as Risa Tisa.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome. Thank you. How you feeling? Thank you. I'm feeling good.
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  Speaker 2: Is it pronounced Teresa?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 3: I've never seen Teresa spelled like that.
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  Speaker 1: It's sponsored by Percocet. My mother was on Percocet when
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  Speaker 1: she came up with that spelling, but yes, Teresa.
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  Speaker 3: She told you that?
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  Speaker 2: No, I just... Just made it up. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because how else would she come up with that spelling?
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  Speaker 1: And you have a book out right now.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. The book is What the Fuck Do I
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  Speaker 2: Do Now?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's start from the beginning.
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  Speaker 4: Why wasn't it Who the F Did I Marry?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I need to back up a little bit and
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  Speaker 3: give people some context.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say go to the back.
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  Speaker 5: So about a couple of years, you were trending all
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  Speaker 5: over TikTok. And you could break down the reason why.
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  Speaker 1: So I did a 50-part series on TikTok called Who
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  Speaker 1: the Fuck Did I Marry?
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  Speaker 4: I watched all 50 parts.
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  Speaker 1: Me too. And it basically talked about how I met, dated, married,
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  Speaker 1: and divorced my ex-husband, who I believe is a pathological liar.
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  Speaker 1: And so the book, What the F Do I Do Now?,
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  Speaker 1: is kind of playing on the F part, but the
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  Speaker 1: book is not about the 50-part series.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why it's not called Who the F Did
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  Speaker 1: I Marry?
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. The book kind of, the way I can explain it,
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  Speaker 1: it's like two parts. So part one takes you like
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of who I am, the mistakes I made
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  Speaker 1: leading up to when I met him. So then you
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  Speaker 1: watch the series and then you can start with part
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  Speaker 1: two to kind of see all the lessons I learned
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  Speaker 1: going viral, business lessons, the toll it took. So the
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  Speaker 1: book is way more in-depth.
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  Speaker 2: How did you meet this individual?
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  Speaker 3: She was micro-dramas before micro-dramas, when you think about it.
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  Speaker 3: You know how people swipe to watch the micro-dramas? That's
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  Speaker 3: what you did with that.
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  Speaker 2: So how did you meet this individual?
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  Speaker 1: I met him on Facebook Dating and on Hinge. We
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  Speaker 1: really connected on both. Oh, I didn't know it was true.
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  Speaker 1: Because he had two different... Yeah, girl. He had two
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  Speaker 1: different names. And so he had his actual government name
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  Speaker 1: and then a nickname on the other. And the pictures
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  Speaker 1: were different. So that's why I didn't initially- So he
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  Speaker 1: was talking to both of them, not knowing that they
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  Speaker 1: were the same people at one time. Not knowing that
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  Speaker 1: they were the same. And then he was like, you
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  Speaker 1: do know that we met on Facebook. And so we
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  Speaker 1: thought it was, you know, we would joke about it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Not realizing that's actually a red flag. But at the time.
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  Speaker 7: You know- At the time, it felt like faith just
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  Speaker 7: kept bringing it on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it did. It did.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: What was the moment when you knew it was a lie,
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  Speaker 5: it was fake, he was a liar? Because a lot
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  Speaker 5: of people might not know the story, so- Break down
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  Speaker 5: the story of what happened.
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  Speaker 8: Because she knew that he was lying, but you was
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  Speaker 8: giving him the benefit of the doubt.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know how deep the lies were. Because people lie.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of thought it was white lies. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know I was dealing with pathological lying until after we
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  Speaker 1: were married. And we got married January 5th.
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  Speaker 2: How long were y'all dating before y'all got married?
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  Speaker 1: From March 2020 to January 5th. So almost a year,
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  Speaker 1: but not quite a year.
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  Speaker 2: So it was pretty fast.
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  Speaker 1: Because it was all in COVID.
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  Speaker 2: So you were in love. You thought you were in love.
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  Speaker 1: I thought I was in love, but I was more
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  Speaker 1: in love with the idea of marriage and kids and
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  Speaker 1: all that.
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  Speaker 4: And probably who you thought he was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So we got married January 5th by January 31st. I
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  Speaker 1: knew I was in trouble. I knew I was in
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  Speaker 1: real trouble.
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  Speaker 2: What put you on to that you were in real trouble?
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  Speaker 2: So you moved in with each other?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we moved fast. So we lived together all throughout
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  Speaker 1: 2020 from the time Georgia got shut down. So what
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  Speaker 1: happened in January... I talk about in the series, I
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  Speaker 1: went to get a pedicure, and while I was in
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  Speaker 1: the chair, he called me and said, somebody just came
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  Speaker 1: to the house looking for you. And I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: who was it? I was freaking out. Who in the
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  Speaker 1: world just showed up to the house looking for me?
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  Speaker 1: And he said it was a black charger. They backed in.
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  Speaker 1: And he said, I walked out, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: can I help you? And he said, oh, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: looking for Teresa. The story wasn't making sense. Mm-hmm. But
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  Speaker 1: he was so adamant about somebody came to the house
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  Speaker 1: looking for you. And I ended up talking to my
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  Speaker 1: neighbor who had a ring camera. And I asked her
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  Speaker 1: to pull up the footage from that time and nothing
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  Speaker 1: was on the camera. And her camera did show my driveway.
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  Speaker 1: So that was my first real clue of what the
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  Speaker 1: fuck is going on. Because you made up something for
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  Speaker 1: absolutely no reason. And that's the thing about pathological things.
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  Speaker 1: lying they just do that they just do it and
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  Speaker 1: there's and there's no line in the sand of what
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  Speaker 1: they will lie about.
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  Speaker 5: So you were intimate with him y'all were having a
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  Speaker 5: real relationship y'all about to have kids and all that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah i had gotten pregnant and had a miscarriage yeah
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  Speaker 1: you talked about that as well yes so i really
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  Speaker 1: i really thought.
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  Speaker 3: He was the one he was the one so what
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  Speaker 3: did he say to finesse you prior to that though
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  Speaker 3: like if you if you realized so fast that he
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  Speaker 3: was a fucking nigga i'm trying not to use that
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  Speaker 3: word no more but why didn't you realize that.
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  Speaker 1: Prior So prior to the situation with the pedicure, first off,
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  Speaker 1: when we met and when we went out on a date,
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  Speaker 1: he literally said everything I wanted to hear. He presented
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  Speaker 1: himself as, listen, I'm 42. I've been married before. I've
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  Speaker 1: been divorced. My ex-wife cheated on me. I'm ready to
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  Speaker 1: be married. So if you are just dating for casual,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not the guy for you. I'm dating with intention. Oh. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he was using those lines. When we decided to move
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  Speaker 1: in together, the thought was we're just going to ride
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  Speaker 1: out quarantine. So I was like, okay, we'll do the
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  Speaker 1: quarantine two weeks. This man came in. He was not
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  Speaker 1: asking for money. He was paying all the bills.
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  Speaker 2: What did he do?
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  Speaker 1: What was his occupation? What did he claim he did?
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  Speaker 1: What did he tell you he did? He claimed that
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  Speaker 1: he was a regional manager going up for vice president,
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  Speaker 1: regional manager of a condiment company in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 2: So where was he getting money from?
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  Speaker 1: So, let me clear.
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  Speaker 3: Condiments, like ketchup and mustard and stuff?
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  Speaker 1: He was, in fact, working. He was not in that position,
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  Speaker 1: but he was, in fact, working.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people thought that maybe he had taken
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  Speaker 1: out a PPP loan. No, he was actually going to work.
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  Speaker 1: I did find evidence that he was working, but he
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  Speaker 1: was actually a temp. Oh, he was a temp.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, he wasn't up for the promotion.
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  Speaker 1: All of that never was true.
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  Speaker 3: He used to bring ketchup and stuff home? No, he
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  Speaker 3: would bring....
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  Speaker 4: Because he had to prove it.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't make ketchup and mustard, but they were a
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  Speaker 1: condiment company. And it is a legitimate company. I just
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  Speaker 1: never said the name because they made different sauces for
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  Speaker 1: different restaurants. So would he bring stuff home? Yes. That
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  Speaker 1: he claimed the company had made.
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  Speaker 5: So was the challenger or the charger, that was the
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  Speaker 5: time you're like, all right, this shit is crazy.
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  Speaker 2: What made you say, this is not right. I got
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  Speaker 2: to get out now.
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  Speaker 1: The part when I spoke to the ex-wife. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What made you call the ex-wife, and how'd you get
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  Speaker 2: her number?
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  Speaker 1: So here's how I got her number. Oh, boy. I
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  Speaker 1: used to do open records for Georgia State Patrol, so
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  Speaker 1: I know how to do open records.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you and Lauren are good friends.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, I watch the series.
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  Speaker 3: I know about the open records.
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  Speaker 7: Good question.
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  Speaker 1: I drove to the county that he was divorced in,
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  Speaker 1: pulled the open records request for the divorce records, and
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  Speaker 1: her phone number, she was the petitioner. His story to
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  Speaker 1: me was that he was the petitioner. So I pulled
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  Speaker 1: the divorce records, which are open to the public. And
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  Speaker 1: her phone number was on there. And I used my
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  Speaker 1: best friend's phone to call her. And I was terrified
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  Speaker 1: because I didn't know what to expect. She was probably
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  Speaker 1: the sweetest person I've met.
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  Speaker 2: What did she say? Child run.
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  Speaker 1: The first thing she said after I introduced myself.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, what? I'm picking up the lady.
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  Speaker 1: I got what you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a grown woman, a child.
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  Speaker 1: I get what you.
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  Speaker 2: Shut up.
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  Speaker 1: I got what you're saying. When I introduced myself, the
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  Speaker 1: first thing she said was, she laughed, and she said,
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  Speaker 1: if you're calling me, I know it's bad.
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  Speaker 3: She already knew.
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  Speaker 2: She already.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think she... They were six months. Wow. Six months.
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  Speaker 2: Did they have kids?
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  Speaker 1: No. But he claimed that her kids were his stepkids.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that they were so close. Right, right, right.
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  Speaker 1: And they had such a relationship.
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  Speaker 2: What lies did he tell her?
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  Speaker 1: So, she is wife number two. I thought she was
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  Speaker 1: wife number one. So he told her lies about an
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  Speaker 1: ex-girlfriend that I since found out was wife number one.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: So this is like polygamous. You ever saw the show
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  Speaker 4: Polygamous on Netflix? Girl, the wives didn't even know about
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  Speaker 4: each other.
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  Speaker 1: But he is, in fact, legally divorced from each of them.
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  Speaker 2: All of them black?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 9: And then he started doing interviews and all the things
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  Speaker 9: to make sure TikTok stuff went viral. So have y'all
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  Speaker 9: been in contact since all of that?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 4: Not one conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Not one conversation. I have not spoken or even communicated
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  Speaker 1: with him since December of 2021 when I told him
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  Speaker 1: not to contact me again, which I think was part 49,
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  Speaker 1: part 49 and part 50.
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  Speaker 2: How'd you get him out the house?
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  Speaker 1: DJ Envy.
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  Speaker 4: He ain't talking about no house.
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  Speaker 2: He seem like he does this.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, you're asking how did I get him out? So
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  Speaker 1: that's part 33, 34, and 35. I went ape shit.
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  Speaker 1: I went ape shit crazy. And I almost lost my freedom.
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  Speaker 2: You put hands on him?
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  Speaker 1: I almost put hands on him.
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  Speaker 2: You got a pistol? Now, yeah. He's a small guy?
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  Speaker 1: No, he's like 6'5. No, he's big. He's a big dude.
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  Speaker 2: And you dragged his ass all through that house?
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  Speaker 1: No. So I did not put hands on him. I
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  Speaker 1: got in his face and I said, if you don't
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  Speaker 1: leave my house, I'm going to beat you like the
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  Speaker 1: bitch you are. Damn! And I don't know if you've
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  Speaker 1: ever experienced a woman when the rage is coming out.
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  Speaker 1: I was so angry because by that point I had discovered...
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  Speaker 1: everything was a lie.
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  Speaker 2: Were you ever fearful of your life?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. After he left, he was threatening to come back.
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  Speaker 1: And that's when he ended up getting arrested in my driveway.
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  Speaker 2: He did come back.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because he was homeless.
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  Speaker 9: When you share your story and you talk about it now,
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  Speaker 9: you're very honest about the fact that time, clock, the
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  Speaker 9: need and want to be married, all those women things
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  Speaker 9: that you're supposed to do kind of help you just
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  Speaker 9: be okay in it for a bit. What's something now
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  Speaker 9: looking back where Resa Tisa is like, I shouldn't have
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  Speaker 9: been okay with that and I'll never be okay with
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  Speaker 9: that again and I want other women to know this
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  Speaker 9: is where you're supposed to draw the line.
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  Speaker 1: The love bombing. to answer your question he didn't come
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  Speaker 1: across as a fuck nigga in the beginning he came
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  Speaker 1: across as I love you you're gonna be the mother
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  Speaker 1: of my children and there was so much love bombing
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  Speaker 1: and it felt good because I had, for me up
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  Speaker 1: until that point, I had always been in some sort
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  Speaker 1: of struggle, love, struggle relationship. And here's a guy who
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  Speaker 1: was like, he comes in providing, paying all the bills.
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  Speaker 1: And I will admit that swayed me. And so I,
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  Speaker 1: I took the love bombing as compliments when in fact
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  Speaker 1: that is a huge red flag. The, the whole, you're
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  Speaker 1: going to be my wife. You're going to be this,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to be that. And you're two weeks in.
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  Speaker 3: Hmm.
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  Speaker 1: So that's where I would say that was a huge
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  Speaker 1: mistake on my part.
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  Speaker 4: Now, did the love bombing ever abruptly stop? Did y'all have...
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  Speaker 4: When was y'all first argument? When was that?
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  Speaker 1: We had an argument within the first two months of
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  Speaker 1: the relationship. Okay. But it was never like, oh my God,
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  Speaker 1: I need to get out of this because both of
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  Speaker 1: us apologized. It was just regular argument. So what I
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  Speaker 1: realized is that I... A man who has no place
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  Speaker 1: to go will do everything to keep a roof over
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  Speaker 1: his head. But I didn't know that that's what I
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  Speaker 1: actually was dealing with. I didn't realize I was dealing
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  Speaker 1: with someone who just needs a place to sleep. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: A homosexual is what they call it.
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  Speaker 1: A homosexual. I thought it was hobo.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's hobo sexual.
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  Speaker 1: Hobo sexual.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was homosexual.
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  Speaker 4: No, so like hobo.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, hobo. Both work. Yeah, both work.
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  Speaker 2: Both work.
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  Speaker 3: When you look back at everything... What's been harder to accept,
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  Speaker 3: the lies you said that he told you or the
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  Speaker 3: lies you were telling yourself?
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  Speaker 1: Lies I was telling myself. Yeah. Because I'm not dumb.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not an unintelligent woman. Yes, I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: my turn, but I absolutely am guilty of turning my
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  Speaker 1: head when I should have investigated more. So that's the
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  Speaker 1: part that even now in 2026... I own, and I
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  Speaker 1: talk about that in the book, but it's still a
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  Speaker 1: little hard. The book is a mirror to myself. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's hard to admit you've
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  Speaker 1: been an undiagnosed pick me. That's why you were in
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  Speaker 1: this situation. Damn.
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  Speaker 2: What made you put it on the line?
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  Speaker 3: Were you fearful of embarrassment?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So the series came about because I was in therapy
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  Speaker 1: and my therapist fell asleep.
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  Speaker 6: What?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 1: Fell asleep. How did she fall asleep? On this story,
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  Speaker 1: you were like that? She fell asleep and- I did
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  Speaker 1: a Stitch video where it was, what's the most fucked
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  Speaker 1: up thing your ex has ever done? I stitched a
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  Speaker 1: video talking about how his grandmother died from COVID and
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  Speaker 1: all that I found out. And people were like, girl,
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  Speaker 1: what in the hell? Tell us more. And that night,
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  Speaker 1: I literally just made the decision. It's been three years.
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  Speaker 1: I'm ready to tell it. And this is how I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to tell it.
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  Speaker 3: What's one truth about yourself you weren't ready to admit
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  Speaker 3: when you first told that story on TikTok?
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  Speaker 1: Um... I underestimated the Internet. I truly underestimated the Internet
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  Speaker 1: at that time because I thought I could just tell
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  Speaker 1: a story and the experience of something and people would
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  Speaker 1: just listen and move on. I didn't realize it was
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  Speaker 1: going to turn into the backlash it turned into because
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: the backlash came swift before the love and the encouragement came.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it was brutal. So it's hard when you
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  Speaker 1: tell something that was actually traumatic to you and people
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  Speaker 1: are like, child, she lying. She did that for clout.
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  Speaker 1: She made the whole thing up. So that that was difficult.
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  Speaker 2: That was the backlash.
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  Speaker 3: People think he was lying.
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  Speaker 6: People.
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  Speaker 1: And one lady made a video talking about, based on
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  Speaker 1: how I looked, what made me think I would ever
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  Speaker 1: get a VP. It was about my looks, how I sounded.
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  Speaker 1: It was everything. And it was weeks and weeks of it.
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  Speaker 1: And it didn't change until I did Good Morning America.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: And then that's when kind of the algorithm and the
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: tide changed.
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: I don't remember it being a big backlash.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: I don't either.
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: Because what I was saying is.
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: I thought everybody was.
• 14:28
  Speaker 8: agreeing and raising awareness to like how men lie. Like
• 14:34
  Speaker 8: it was a lot of women that I saw was like, oh,
• 14:36
  Speaker 8: that happened to me.
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: What happened to?
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. In the beginning, it was, it was bad.
• 14:41
  Speaker 7: I think that's why it went so viral at first.
• 14:43
  Speaker 7: Cause people was like, like.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: Ain't no way it would never be me.
• 14:47
  Speaker 7: I remember seeing those videos. I was on vacation.
• 14:50
  Speaker 9: I remember I found your video because somebody made a
• 14:52
  Speaker 9: video like, She played herself, but like, what did she expect?
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: What did she get?
• 14:57
  Speaker 9: But how were, in real time, right, when you seeing
• 14:59
  Speaker 9: people talk about the way that you look and basically
• 15:02
  Speaker 9: saying you're not, you can't expect a certain type of
• 15:04
  Speaker 9: man because of that.
• 15:06
  Speaker 7: How was that? You was dealing with that every single day.
• 15:07
  Speaker 7: You're probably still dealing with that. Like, what has that
• 15:09
  Speaker 7: been like?
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: So at the time, my mental health took a hit.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: I admit that. And I talk about that in the book,
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: how my mental health took a hit. Now my skin's
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: much thicker. Like I do understand social media is a beast.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: It really is. People want, they do everything to go viral.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: And then when it happens, you can't do anything to
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: kind of combat what is coming with it. So now
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: I'm just in a different space. That's the best way
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: I can put it. I'm in a different head space.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: It's like, you can call me whatever you want, but
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: you are going to call me an author. Yeah. You
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: are going to call me, I'm on auto pay, but
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: you will never call me a Republican. That's right.
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: How many women called you and said that you actually helped?
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: Because I have a bunch of homegirls, and I'm sure Charlamagne.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Does, that are at an age where... if a man
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: tells them something, they want to believe it.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: The professional pick me.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Even if it's not true, they want to believe it.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: She said undiagnosed pick me. I never heard that one.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: That was a good.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: But that's how I refer to myself because I'm not
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: going to call... You need to realize whether or not
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: you are a pick me. I realize that my MO
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: has been I want the ring. I want the last
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: name change. So all of my actions and my motives
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: have been to accomplish that the right way. The way
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: that I was raised in the church. Mm-hmm. That's why
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: I keep doing the quotations. In terms of how many people,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: my DMs were flooded.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: I'm sure women were calling and saying, this happened to me.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't just women.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, really?
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: It was a lot of men in there that were like,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: I ain't going to put my story up, but I
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: know someone that this happened to, and this happened to me.
• 16:38
  Speaker 8: That's what I'm talking about. You raised awareness of this happening.
• 16:41
  Speaker 8: How many DMs was like, oh, I could treat you right, though.
• 16:43
  Speaker 8: What's going on?
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I ain't going to lie to you. So my DMs
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: right now, as of today, range from... A dick pic,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: I can help heal you. Yeah. To, you got the
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: ones who were asking literally last night, can you pay
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: my mortgage?
• 16:59
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: And then you have the ones who have, you know,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: encouraging stories. It's a range of all of that. The
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: crazies come out just like the encouragement comes out. So that's,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Do you respond to any?
• 17:11
  Speaker 7: Are you dating?
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not dating, and I don't respond to DMs.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Are you afraid to date? Has this situation scared you? Yeah,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: I'm terrified.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Have you dated since then?
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: No.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Y'all are hitting a rapid fire, man.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: No, it's fine.
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: It's fine.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I don't even trust myself. Let someone in breathe. No,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: it's okay. So the truth is, I'm terrified to do it.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I'm terrified. One, because I understand there's some stuff in
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: me that has not been worked out. So I am
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: afraid of repeating history. And I'm the first one to
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: tell you I will not survive another Legion. So I'm
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: just terrified. And I feel like the right guy will
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: probably be someone I'm friends with. Like it starts out
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: as a friendship because I didn't have that with him.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Was your family around during this time? Did they see
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: him and did they say this ain't right?
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: So my mom was not, she was living in Arkansas.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: So my mother came for a visit that I talk
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: about in the series. She did come for a visit.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: My mother is the queen of I'm going to get
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: on my knees and pray. So she thought something was up,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: but she didn't know what it was. My aunt was
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: the one that was like, I like him, but there's something.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Because he talks about money a lot. Like she said that.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: And my grandfather was like, I don't think he ever
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: played football. Something about that doesn't make sense. He played football? Yeah.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: He been sitting there the whole time not listening.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't hear that part. Arena football.
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: Wasn't he saying that people were trying to give back
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: tickets and stuff?
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: So that was after the series. That's him doing those. Yeah.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: He claimed that he played arena football. And then after
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: the series, he did interviews where he was saying people
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: were trying to give back arena football tickets because of
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: the series.
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: Because they were upset at him.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Because they were upset.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: You think women sometimes become so committed to the idea
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: of being somebody's wife that they stop asking whether the
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: man is even worthy of being their husband?
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think at some point, at least in
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: my case, I completely lost who I was. Completely lost.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: And almost in a way, my identity became tied to him.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: You know, it was I was so happy to be like,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: we this, we that. When I got married, I changed
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: my name two days later. I was I was I
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: felt like I finally accomplished. Yeah, I got a college degree. Yeah,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I'm in a career job. But now I got married.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I did it right. So I think that there are
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: women who absolutely they they're so focused on it. that no,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: they don't pause to be like, do you even deserve me?
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Because some of us at times we can be afraid
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: to walk away and start over. And that fear can
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: drive you and it can cause you that I know.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: And like I said, in my case, that whole desire
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: for marriage is what, drove me to just be like that.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: That is my singular focus.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: And look at what it got.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: How much of that pressure comes from society and how
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: much is your own expectation?
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: So I think some of it is society. I'm be
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: honest with you. I think some of it is also
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: growing up in church because a lot of a lot
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: of my beliefs came from. You know, women, you don't
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: do too much. You want to get you a good
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: godly man. You want a man to find you. And
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: then I do think some of that is also what
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: we say to ourselves. And for me, what I did
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: was I absolutely was like, I am 35. I want
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: a baby. I did not want to be a single mom.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I grew up. with a single mom. I wanted to
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: do it the right way.
• 20:32
  Speaker 8: And so God was certainly protecting you because you would
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: have been a single mother right now.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Of a child whose father I could not sever ties with.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm wondering about with church?
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: I'd be wondering if people would really just be wanting
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: to have sex, but they are afraid that they're going
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: to be committing a sin so they get married just
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: so they can have sex. I'd be wondering that sometimes.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I think that that is a valid point. And I
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: think that people do that now. In my case, that
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: wasn't me. I wasn't afraid. But, I mean, I was.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I was. Because I moved in with him before I
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: got married. Right, y'all playing house and everything. Yeah, and
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I got pregnant before I got married. It's just that I,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: you know, had a miscarriage and at the time was
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: so devastated by it not realizing, girl, you dodged a bullet. Right.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: The internet was on you hard. How difficult was that?
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, they were on you for every little thing.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Every little thing you did.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I wish I didn't contribute to that either.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Are you apologizing?
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: I did already.
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: Let him get it out.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: The right way.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: You did. On air. To me? Yes. In front of you?
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: She's here right now.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, well, I apologize for contributing to that.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: No. But I really did not know what you looked
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: like when I made that statement.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: He didn't.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I had no idea.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And here's the interesting thing. Number one, so much
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: has happened from that. And I know you are a
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: fan of therapy. I'm a fan of therapy. Yeah. I've
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: been called way worse since then. So to answer your question,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: how bad was it? It was bad. It was bad.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not, I am not going to sit up here
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: and act like, you know what? Kumbaya. Nah, fuck some
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: of them people. Right. Because it was bad.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: You, you do not know me. You only know this
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: story and I was judged pretty bad for it, but nevertheless,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: it didn't break me. So I'm grateful for that. But yeah,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you it was, it was bad.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: How mad were you with Charlamagne?
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: You know what it is? I was more mad because
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I heard the think pieces before I saw the clip.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: And that's on me. So had I saw the clip
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: to understand context, I don't even think, I think it
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: would not have bothered me the way it did. The
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: thing is, it was the timing of it. And I've
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: been a big girl my whole life. I came out
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: nine pounds. I was a big baby. I'm a big girl.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: But It's one thing when you know that you're big,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: and it's another thing when the world is talking about
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: your weight. And I think some people took that comment,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: jumped on it for views and for likes, and made
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: it much worse than it actually was. What confused you
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: about that?
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: What was the confusing part?
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: Because you said you didn't hear the full version of
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: what was said.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: He technically did not call me a big bag. He
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: said the behavior was big bag. He did not say...
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: she's a big bag. That sounds like big bag behavior. Nevertheless,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, words, one of the things that I think
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: we can agree on, when you have certain platforms, words matter.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: And people will take those words and they will run
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: with it.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: But I appreciate what you just said.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to contribute to that.
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: Are you in a good place of self-love now?
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm focusing on now. Because I lost me.
• 23:49
  Speaker 9: So.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: The book, What the F Do I Do Now, Reclaiming Myself,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: because there's so many different layers of that, reclaiming my name,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: reclaiming my time, reclaiming my worth, is all the things
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: that I truly did lose. So self-love, whether it's taking
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: a mental break, whether it's taking a solo vacation, are
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: things that I'm doing really to take care of me.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Because I waited for so long to have someone else
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: do it. And it's like, girl, do it yourself.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: And I love that.
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: I see that you are now turning the internet into
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: like your playground.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: You're doing food reviews. You know what I'm saying?
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: Like becoming an influencer. And that seems to make you happy,
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: you know, trying people's recipes.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: The thing is, I don't. Like, I don't consider myself
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: an influencer or a content creator. You know what I mean?
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I'm on PTO doing this interview. I still go to work.
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: But your 50-part series, yes, you definitely became one of
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: the biggest influencers.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Telling your story.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So now I'm just... Yeah. What? Because she's saying influencer?
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, Charlene.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: You really the four of you?
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: That's why I was laughing.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I didn't see that.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. So what I'll do.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: I didn't know.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what?
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, so what she's talking about is that, like, I'll
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: go to, like, restaurants and just make a video about my, yeah,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not no Keith Lee.
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I thought it was going to say.
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: No, no, no, no.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not Keith Lee. Okay.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: But that restaurant I just went to in Houston when
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I was there for Afrotech, Winsome Prime. It was delicious.
• 25:20
  Speaker 9: But you talk about the viral tax, right? And I
• 25:22
  Speaker 9: think this is a part of it. People are trying
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: to figure out, like, okay, so now what are you doing?
• 25:26
  Speaker 9: You said you're still working. And, like, so what is
• 25:28
  Speaker 9: it now?
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: So the book and then the television show, which now I'm...
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: This is, like, my last... Stop for all things book
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: because now it's time to switch gears to television.
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: With Natasha Rothwell.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: With Natasha Rothwell. So that is gearing up. She's playing you, right?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: She's going to play me.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Who?
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Natasha Rothwell.
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: From Insecure.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: Congratulations.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: That's what I was playing. I told you.
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: He did tell me, but he always fucking playing. So
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: I didn't know if he was joking or not, but congratulations.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: That's amazing.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Did you hear Remy Ma mention you in her song?
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I sure did, and I downloaded it expeditiously.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Damn right.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Did she call you first, or you just heard it
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: the first time?
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: No, I just heard it. What did you think? I
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: was like, yes, bitch. Yes. I mean, it's Remy Ma.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I've been featured or talked about in songs, but that,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I was like, I ain't gonna lie. I went to
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: work with sunglasses on. I was feeling myself in the office.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: I want to go back to the... Big back behavior thing,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: only because of something I heard you say, right? Okay.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: You said, you talked about dating as a plus size
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: woman and the experience of men desiring you privately, but
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: not always loving you publicly.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: How much did those experiences affect what you believed you
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: deserved from a man?
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: So the best way I can explain that in the book,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: chapter two, I talk about a guy that I was
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: just absolutely in love with. I was in love, only
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: to realize I pretty much was a science experiment to him.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: He had never been with a big girl, let alone
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: a black girl. And yes, he's black. And I talked
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: about how that made me feel when I realized at
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, he was never going to
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: choose or pick me because of my size. And I
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: think a lot of big women know what it is
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: like to be with a guy who loves every inch
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: of you privately. but would never hold your hand publicly.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: They would never claim you. So when I met someone
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: who was like, oh no, I'll claim you from head
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: to toe, it almost felt like validation. It almost felt like, okay,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the other guy is the one that's fucked up. Not me.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with me because here's this guy who's like, girl,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I'll put a ring on your finger. And you're so
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: busy wanting that validation, you never did any investigating.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: For sure.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: And so I think that there's a lot of plus-size
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: women out there who know what it's like to feel
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: like a science experiment.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: That's why I said what I said. I wish I
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: didn't use that language, but that's why I.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Said what I said. You know, you said therapy helped.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Who else helped a lot? Because feeling like that, a
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: lot of times you hear people say, I want surgery.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I want ozempic. I want this. I want to change
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: my body because I don't feel comfortable. But you were
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: never like that.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: So No, so for the record, I'm all for some Ozempic.
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: It's just that, let me keep it real with you.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Let me keep it real with you. If I can
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: get my eighth grade body back, ain't no stopping me. Okay? However,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I ain't doing no surgery, but I will shoot up
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: some Ozempic. You didn't try?
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: No, you didn't try.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I've tried GLP-1, not Ozempic. So bring me back next summer.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, you want it. You want it.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get it. Okay. I'm going to get it.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: They say Jetbound is good, too.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Cool. Add that to the list.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: And Fat Joe said Trim Fire is really good, too.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Add that to the list. Manjaro, Dunjaro, everything.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: So what are you waiting on then? If you want
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: to do it, what are you waiting on? Is there
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: something you.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I want my insurance to pay for it. That's why
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I still kept that nine to five. Yeah. But in
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: terms of what else helped my community... My family, my friends.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I have a mom that has taken away my phone
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: because I'm going down a rabbit hole. I have friends
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: who were like, girl, we know you. We know you.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: We see you. And I said this in the acknowledgments
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: of the book where I talk about to my family
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: and friends, when the world wanted to make me a hashtag,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: y'all were my village. Like, y'all literally kept me walking
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: when I just wanted to sit on the side of
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: the road, delete the series, and go into... So it's
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: important that you have people. I do not have yes
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: people around me. If anything, I have no people. But
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's important that you have people around you.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: that keep you grounded. Because it's easy to go viral
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: and think you the shit.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: It is easy.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: And you need somebody around you that just reminds you, girl,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: you was on a payment arrangement with Georgia Power just
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: like two months ago. Sit the fuck down.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: Did he isolate you from your friends?
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: And your family? Because of COVID. He weaponized COVID for sure.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Because he kept saying all these people are dying. His grandmother,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: his uncle, Billy Bob, Junebug. And they... as I found out,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: either they did not exist or they had died years earlier. Right.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: So he absolutely was like, I don't want nothing to
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: happen to you. Like, you my world, you my, I
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: don't want you going out.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: And then he'd be on the phone, acting like he
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: on the phone, not on the phone with nobody.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Ain't on the phone with nobody. Girl, a clown. Which,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: by the way, is one of those things I didn't
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: realize until later on how much, how traumatic that actually
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: is for me. It's hard for me to hear you
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: on the phone and I don't subconsciously be quiet to
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: see if I can hear anyone on the other line.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: This nigga was walking around on the phone, Sharla. Nobody
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: was on him.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: He did it for months where he was pretending to
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: be on the phone with his brother, only for me
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: to find out him and his brother haven't spoken since 2015.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: Brother don't need to fuck with him at all. She
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: be in the kitchen cooking or whatever. And he be like, yeah,
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: he said.
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: What's up?
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: You spoke to the brother?
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've spoken to the brother.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: What did he say?
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Not on the phone when he was on the phone
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: with him.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. I've spoken to the brother after, really
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: after he got kicked out, and then again when the
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: series went viral. So the brother has always maintained, listen,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: get everything you can get off of this. He was like,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry that you went through this. We've always
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: known he was a liar. We just didn't realize that
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: the lies had escalated to this point. But everyone... Everyone
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I have ever encountered who knew him has always said
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: he's always been alive.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: He needs some help.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Is he still trying to benefit off this situation? Is
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: he posting videos?
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I bet he going to. So I have him blocked.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I have not seen anything. But that doesn't mean that
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: he's not trying something. I just have not. I have
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: not seen it.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: And have you posted his picture online? Every way to
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: make sure other women don't fall for the.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Same thing that you fell for.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Believe it or not, I haven't.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: His first wife, his second wife, no?
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: No.
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: His interviews were viral, though.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't remember seeing them.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I don't remember seeing them.
• 31:55
  Speaker 9: I remember the one about the football when he was like,
• 31:58
  Speaker 9: they not buying my tickets because she did this series.
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: I was like, oh, he might not.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: He claimed that I hit him with the car. Yes. Yeah,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: he did say you did. But no charges were pressed
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: because he was trying to learn how to walk again. Crazy. Yeah. No,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: we haven't. I have no contact with him to know
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: what it is he's up to. But I wouldn't be
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: surprised if he was up to something.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be. I would not be surprised. I never
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: released his picture because somewhere in the back of my mind,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I just thought I could tell the story. Never used
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: his name. And I thought people would just pay attention
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: to the story. I never thought the story was going
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: to go viral. Because it's so long.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Was his second wife a bigger woman as well? Or
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: you don't know?
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: The pictures I saw, no, she's smaller than me.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: I'm just curious.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: What does that matter? Because I was thinking what his
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: target is. If he's targeting.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Bigger, older women. No, so he doesn't target a certain...
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: How old are you? I'm now 41.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, you old. No, because she said she's ready to
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: start her life.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: It happened in 2021. We were married and divorced. And
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: then three years later, I dropped the series. But no,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: the women. So his his first wife has been online.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: She's been online.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: You want to ask about her too, Indi?
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: She's made videos. She's been on other talk shows like
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Tasha K.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Talking about doing the same thing and he's done the
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: same thing to her.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: She talked about her experience, talked about me, and talked about.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Some other stuff. She said nothing negative about you, right?
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: She did.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: That shit don't count.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: She did.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Is she a big woman for real?
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: No, I'm probably the biggest one. in terms of size.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: And in terms of, you know, stardom.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: The biggest, the largest, okay?
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: So in his own mouth, he was like, Teresa's always
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: been intelligent. And somewhere in my head, I do say
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: to myself, he knows it's that that third wife was
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: always going to be an issue. But I didn't know.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: I didn't know I was the third wife until afterwards.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: I hope this story is a story that people focus
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: on and think about body image because that's part of it.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: To me, the bigger conversation is how do you separate
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: your worth as a woman from your ability... to being
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: a wife.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Or a mother.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: And see, I feel like the bigger conversation needs to...
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: My whole thing when I meet people now is I hope...
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I still believe in love. Let me be very clear.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I still believe in love. I still believe in marriage.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: And I want those things. I'm afraid to try it
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: right now. But I hope that people don't just go
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: into it blind... And I hope that people trust but verify.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: And what that means is a person can tell you,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I'm this, this, and this.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, cool.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: But verify that. Like, don't be afraid to run a
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: background check. I don't know why that seems so taboo.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: But don't be afraid to do that. Because in 2026,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: even with online dating, you're meeting someone's representative. Right. You
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: really are. So I just don't want to see anyone,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: whether it's male or female, go through anything like that.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: But I also understand... You being done dirty by a
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: significant other is nothing new. It's nothing new. Maybe my
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: story has some twists and turns to it, but the
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: foundation of it is nothing new.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Can I ask the ladies in the room, how do
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: y'all separate your worth as a woman from your ability
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: to be a wife or mother? Do y'all feel like
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: they're tied together? Like you have to be a wife
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: or a mother to feel valuable as a woman?
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: No.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: No.
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: I don't feel like you have to. That's something that
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: I desire, though. I wanted to be a wife and
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: a mother at a very young age. And I'm glad
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: that it happened now. I wasn't going to... Although I
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: wanted it so badly, I never settled because I knew
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: it would eventually come. But yeah, I don't think that
• 35:45
  Speaker 8: you need to be a wife or a mother to.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Be filled by this. But a lot of women do settle, though.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: And I was going to say, and to that, I
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: absolutely settled. I absolutely settled believing I was running out
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: of time and God was taking too long. Which I
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: know is.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: At 35?
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Because you have to understand something. Before I met him,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I had just had a conversation with my doctor who
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: was like, so, what are we thinking? What are we
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: thinking on kids?
• 36:09
  Speaker 9: I never felt like that, but people will talk to
• 36:11
  Speaker 9: you like that. Your doctors, people around you.
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: Your parents.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, your parents. It'd be like.
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: They make you be like, well, wait, hold on. It's tomorrow,
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: my last day.
• 36:21
  Speaker 9: So then you start thinking about certain things that you've
• 36:24
  Speaker 9: never really thought about.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I never really was pressed on it until I hit
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: 35 and was like, oh, shit. I think I'm running
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: out of time. And so I met someone, married him,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: and was thinking to myself, okay, I got on the
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: last train. It was almost a relief. And then when
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: everything blew up, I still struggle with the fact that
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you're 41, more than likely, the biological train
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: has left. Are you going to be okay with that?
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: What does life look like without kids? And I've said
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: this online, there's a difference between being child-free by choice
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: and you're a childless by circumstances, meaning you wanted children,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: you wanted to do all those things, but life happens.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: And so part of this book is me telling the audience,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: do not give up on your dreams. you just got
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: to edit it a little.
• 37:17
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: So you may not have a pregnancy, but you can
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: always adopt. You can do surrogacy. Now, obviously after what
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: we saw, make sure the paperwork is done tightly, but
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: you don't have to give up on it. And for
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: the longest time, I absolutely felt like if I don't
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: do it this way, then throw everything out.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: I have a lot of girls that are going through
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: the same thing and they're at the age where they,
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: did not want to freeze their eggs because they were like,
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: I don't want to do that. I want to do
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: it this way. And by the time it was time
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: to freeze their eggs, it was too late. They haven't
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: met the right person. And you can see them settling. Like,
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: certain things that you'd be like, I'm like, that ain't right.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: And they're like, nah, it's okay.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, nigga, that ain't right.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: They're making it okay and they're settling and they're not
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: seeing the red flags and I'm praying that they don't
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: see the red flags when it's too late.
• 38:04
  Speaker 9: Are you having those conversations with yourself, if you don't
• 38:05
  Speaker 9: mind me asking, about, like, adoption or, like, or do.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: You, So the conversations I have with myself have more
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: to do with what is it that I truly want?
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: What is it that I'm willing to, because I do
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: understand no one's perfect. So I'm not wanting perfect. But
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: what I genuinely want more than anything is healthy. Healthy mentally,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: healthy emotionally. I don't want to get into anything with
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: a man where, I said this before, I don't want
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: to bleed on someone who didn't cut me. And right
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: now I'm a mess because you do one wrong thing.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I'm over it. Like, I'm good. And then you think
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: about the fact they always tell women, don't tell a
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: man all that your ex did. Well, I can't tell
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: the world. So there's that. So there's also the fear
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: of people. There are men out there who were like, oh,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I can one up him. And I don't want to
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: meet them. I don't want anything. So the conversations I
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: have with myself are more about accepting. Because I'm not
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: saying it can't happen, but if it doesn't, I want
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: to be okay with that.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: How do you make sure the walls that you built
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: to protect you don't become the same walls that prevent
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: somebody good from loving?
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know yet. That's the reason why I'm working
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: in therapy.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: That was the therapist that fell asleep, though.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: No.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: No.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: But that's, to your point, is precisely why I admit
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not there yet. Wow.
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not. It was a very.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: To some people, it was entertaining. And I understand that.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: I do understand, child, you had me glued. We did
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: watch parties. We did this. We did that. I cleaned
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: my house. And I understand that. But underneath all of that,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: that shit was traumatic as hell.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: So if a good man came into your life tomorrow,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: you don't feel like you're emotionally ready to receive that love?
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: No. And he shouldn't come.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: As he shouldn't come to me on some less date.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: He should just try to be my friend.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Just, honestly, just be my friend. Just be my homeboy.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Let me call you to ask you how do I
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: change the filter in my A.C. in the attic of
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: my house.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Be patient with you.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, be patient.
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: Because if somebody come in her and into our life
• 40:28
  Speaker 8: tomorrow and love bomber, that's going to trigger the shit
• 40:30
  Speaker 8: out of her.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I get triggered easily. I admit that, and
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: that's something I need to... work on and then also
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: that's something that I feel like my radars need to
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: just be recalibrated because they they was dead before and.
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: So you can't trust your intuition your discernment I'm learning
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: to trust it wow but I didn't before but you're
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: a woman of faith though yeah but being a woman
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: so that's fair being a woman of faith doesn't mean that.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: You don't allow yourself to fall for the devil's tricks.
• 40:59
  Speaker 9: That's right I saw you say you thought God forgot
• 41:01
  Speaker 9: your name yeah oh man.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: I did I did. Because I felt like you made
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: me to have the desire of my heart to be
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: a wife, to be a mom, to be all these things.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Some of this stuff has happened. Some of it has not.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: I absolutely was walking around feeling like he forgot me
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: like he and I would joke about it and say
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: to people. My husband's GPS is broken. Like he's on
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: the side of the road somewhere and he needs to
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: be rerouted to find me. And I was like, I
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: don't know what God doing. I think God was like,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to your call as soon as I can.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: But I'm busy making the heavens and the earth and
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: building this person. That person is like you see, you
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: know how you hear women say, I see what you
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: did for someone else.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: And that's where that's where that statement came from, where
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I felt like he forgot me.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no. It just seems like you made
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: marriage and being a wife your whole identity.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: The whole identity, yeah.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: But you didn't love yourself enough.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: You got to be ready for when God bless you.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, with a husband.
• 42:00
  Speaker 8: Because he's not going to send you nobody until you're
• 42:02
  Speaker 8: able to sit with yourself and love him with yourself.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Right. You know what I mean? And I absolutely accept
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: that now.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: But I didn't accept that then.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: I got you.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: And so for some people who were like, you know,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be resettled and be a cautionary tale.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I don't want anyone to be. To be that way.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Because look at what happens when you try to rush something.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: You end up with a legion. Or you end up
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: with a book.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: So congratulations.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I'm so happy for you. That at least this came
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: out of it.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: I hope that you really get to a place of
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: like real, real, real healing.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: A real, real, real love.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Thank you. That's what I'm working on.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: Thank y'all.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: We appreciate you. Thank you for coming up here because
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: I'm sure you was like, I don't know what to
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: expect with these motherfuckers.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: You just came up with probably Ray Smack shit out
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: of somebody.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: No, I wasn't. I kind of, no, I wouldn't.
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: You look Charlamagne up and down when you walked in.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: For real?
• 42:52
  Speaker 7: Like, he was shorter than you thought?
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: No, I looked at him up and down because I
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: felt like the elephant in the room. No pun intended.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I don't want you to feel like an elephant. No.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: You know what your mama. That's why the fuck she
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: don't sleep. You know what?
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: Your mama.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Your mama. Your mama.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Your mama. What I was saying.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Wow. I was like, somebody's going to bring up the
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: big bag. And in a way, I was like, that's
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: the elephant in the room. Because even my comments have
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: been like, we're going to be watching and.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: See what he says.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: And I was like, man, Charlotte made my cousin on
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: my daddy's side. On your daddy's side.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: But you don't really fuck with him like that. I
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: don't really fuck with him like that.
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: But I was hoping you was going to take them, though.
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: I was going to help you. I was going to
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: help him jump up, but that's all right.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Listen, if she didn't glue this hair on, I'm a
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: different creature underneath here. I look like Cleo from Send
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: It All. Honey, these braids are not done. My braid
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: down ain't done good.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: What?
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: But we've seen bigger backs in this chair.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, girl.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.
• 43:58
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: No, for us, you're not even as big as... Okay.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Like, yo, I've been on my GLP-1. I'm down to
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: one and a half chins.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: I'm... Listen.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: No, even from watching.
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: I re-watched your Tamron Hall from then until now.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Thank you. See? That's what I said. Wait till I
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: get my eighth grade body back.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: You ain't been to me. I'm from South Carolina, so.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: We've seen bigger people.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Until you do right by me. Teresa Johnson, thank you
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: so much.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: I take statin. I take statin every day at 6 o'clock.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: He does, though.
• 44:28
  Speaker 7: He does.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: All right, but thank you so much for doing this.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: We appreciate it. Pick up the book, What the Fuck
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Do I Do Now? And thank you for being a
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: good sport.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: All right. It's The Breakfast Club. It's Teresa Johnson, y'all.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Who the hell is Teresa Johnson?
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, Teresa Johnson.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Her actual name, her author. Hold up. You all finished
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: or y'all done?