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Coming to us from the offices of the Lehigh Valley Iron Pigs. We've got
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the general manager with us, mister Kurt Landis Kurt Man. Thanks so much
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for jumping on the podcast here. It's great to talk to you, my
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friend, Jeff, Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. How are
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you. I am doing okay. I'm specifically doing okay because baseball season's back.
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Baseball season is here. I love the fact that I am able to
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drive here in the Lehigh Valley, just about fifteen minutes down the road,
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and I'm able to get to Coca Cola Park with the Lehigh Valley Iron Pigs
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play. I can see some fun baseball. I can be there with my
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family and just have a great time. And I gotta say, Kurt,
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I was at opening night for the Iron Pigs, you know, that home
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opener, and you know, I was thinking how glad I was to be
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there. I was. I was being very reflective actually, the fact that
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I'm able to watch triple A ball being played, because quite frankly, there
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was some ambiguity as to whether or not we'd actually have Triple A baseball here
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in the Lehigh Valley due to some of the how can I say, funding
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issues and political shenanigans that we're going on behind the scenes. And I'll say
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this, I'll say this to folks who may not know and understand this issue
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too too much. Public private partnerships that the Lehigh Valley IronPigs have with other
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organizations other entities in the Lehigh Valley, it's it's been so good for this
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Lehigh Valley community. And I do think public private partnerships can be really good
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for communities, and I think the public private partnership that the Leah Valley Ironpicks
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have just with the community here in the Lehigh Valley as a whole has been
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so solid for so many years. So I just wanted to put that out
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there. Look, the IronPigs signed a lease that keeps the ball club in
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the Lehigh Valley until I believe it's twenty fifty two, if I'm not mistaken,
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And maybe you can talk a little bit about that as well, Kurt,
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But I'm wondering if you can kind of take us through the entire process
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of this past year that happened, that ambiguity as to whether or not the
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Iron Pigs We're still going to be here in the Lehigh Valley again due to
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some political shenanigs and things that were, you know, needing to be done
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from the Iron Pigs standpoint, and also things that were needed to be done
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from the public standpoint as well. I just wanted to get your thoughts on,
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like how concerned you were about the Iron Picks possibly having to shut their
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doors here in the Lehigh Lehigh Valley and kind of how things got resolved.
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Well, it's been a unique year. Yeah, at least, but as
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you mentioned, you know, we're committed to Lehigh Valley. The least has
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been signed or extended from twenty forty five to twenty fifty two. About the
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Iron Pick, the Iron Picks, the organization, the franchise, its never
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ever wanted to leave the Lehigh Valley. We were very blessed to have the
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support that we have over the last two years. Actually, Major League Baseball
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essentially took over My League Baseball operations, and when they did that, they
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immediately contracted forty two teams from Mile League Baseball right off the bat, and
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that happened in January of twenty twenty one, and the remaining one hundred and
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twenty teams in mir League Baseball, including ourselves, signed required to sign a
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license agreement from Major League Baseball, and within that agreement, you were required
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to hit certain parameters in terms of ability facility improvements by April first of twenty
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twenty three. And without that, MLB wasn't saying, hey, you're you're
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going to be gone, You're going to be contracted, but they've certainly leveraged
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that and reminded the one hundred and twenty teams that were of you know,
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contract to Majorague Baseball that you put yourself at risk by not doing so.
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It was very important to them to have upgraded facilities, and they were wrong.
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They were like get it done. They're like, you got to get
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this done. It needs to happen. Yeah, you know, it was
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unfortunate timing because January of twenty one, we're coming off of twenty twenty,
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when all of Mir League Baseball hadn't played a game in two years since twenty
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nineteen. So a lot of franchises across the country just weren't in a financial
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position to even help. Now, that wasn't the case here, although we
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lost all of twenty twenty, and it wasn't a great situation for anyone to
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lose an entire year's worth of income. But we maintained all of our full
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time employees because we felt we owed it to them. They've been here and
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our employees are really the heart of what we do and why we're successful.
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But we kept our employees and we started looking for assistance. In the end,
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I know that Lee High County support us with four and a half million.
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The state was able to provide us with two and a half million dollars
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of funds Northampton County, even though the ballpark's in Lee High County. Northampton
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County recognized the regional nature of the Iron Pigs support us with two hundred thousand
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dollars, and even the business community, the Chamber of Commerce, as a
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show of great faith in understanding what we do in the Business Committee provided one
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hundred thousand dollars, So that left us at seven point three million dollars.
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The project cost end up being over ten million dollars for the base of project
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cost, So the Iron Pigs probably have contributed and we're still getting the file
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numbers as a construction just end up. So Iron Pigs probably not contribute somewhere
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between three and three and a half million dollars ourselves. And we never ever
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wanted to leave and never ever wanted to press holes in the position, but
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we did need and received some public help to be able to make the improvements
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that Major League Baseball required of us. Absolutely, yeah, And it was
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Major League Baseball that said you really need to get this done. And like
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you said, it wasn't where you, it wasn't where the IronPigs wanted to
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leave by any stretch. Of the imagination. And of course you know that
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people go down rabbit holes and say, okay, what happens if they're not
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here, and then conversations can get a little bit ugly. But at the
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end of the day, it was a community that rallied around each other and
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around the Pigs to say, lest look, you know, they are such
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an important and integral part of our Lehigh Valley community. We need to make
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sure that this happens. And it was really really great to see. And
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uh, you know, I'm grateful as somebody who loves going to the to
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the games, and loves being at the park, love taking my family there.
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You know, I'm just grateful that, you know, we had your
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leadership and their other leaders in the Lehigh Valley as well, that we're really
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able to get this done. But moving along here, Kurt as well,
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you know, I look at the Iron Pigs, and specifically from a baseball
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perspective, over the years, the talent in the Phillies farm system that has
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been a bit depleted. I'm sure you've heard some you know, talk here
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and there about the Phillies farm system being a little bit depleted over the years,
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but it's never ceased to amaze me how many folks are attending games and
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they head to Coca Cola Park with their family. Again, I do that
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with my family. It's such a testament to what the Iron Pigs actually mean
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to family and the community at large. So as the Phillies farm system has
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some talent that's you know, coming up through the ranks here, we're seeing
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some We're gonna be seeing some really good talent. I think in Lehigh Valley
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this year, is there an expectation that you're going to see even more Phillies
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and IronPigs fans really heading to the park this season to check out this talent
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and to see what the Phillies farm system has to offer. Well, you
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know, I certainly think that when there's talented players here, or when the
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Phillies are playing well and in the nationallygue Championship, there's a more baseball fervor
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as it were, and we're excited about baseball more and we benefit by that.
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But it's hard to really know and understand. You know, if wins
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and losses, I don't think they have a significant impact on our attendance.
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It helps if you're a really good team, and certainly will hurt if you
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have a really poor team. But I large, we've always estimated that we
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feel like eighty five percent of our fans are here for what you just talked
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about, Jeff. It's a family night out, it's a fun thing to
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do. They enjoy the fireworks, the game promotion. Certainly there are people
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that enjoy the game of baseball, or they might not set themselves die hearts
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right right and focused every minute on the action of play, like maybe that
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ten or fifteen percent our fans do. So, you know, you try
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to have something for everybody, and you know, for us, different theme
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nights, you know, we have different group boutings, different ways to try
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to be able to connect with the entire community that are genuine and everyone has
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a night or more, and we work very hard to fill the ballpark.
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We're there's thirty Triple A teams in the country and now those thirty, you
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know, there's twenty seven of them that are larger markets than le High Valley.
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But last year we finished second in both average and overall attendance. And
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it's just because there's so much love for I think our brand, I think
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the ballpark. You know, we talked about the improvements and there a lot
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of people why do they need improvements? And it really wasn't about the stadium
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in terms of the fan amenities. It was about the player amenities, the
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clubhouses, you know, to be able to handle the newer analytical, additional
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coaching staffs, the size of the rosters, things have changed significantly in fifteen
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years, and nutrition and health and wellness and training. So I'll say right
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now, you know, with what we've done behind the scenes for the photolph
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affiliates and the players and farm development and what we've always had in terms of
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the actual playing surface and the fan amenities, there's really no greater ballpark in
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Triple A Baseball right now, and we're very proud of that, and I
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think that goes to us out punching our weight coming here compared to other markets.
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It's something very special. I know you thought it an opening night.
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When you're here, it's very community driven and you have a sense of a
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huge sense of pride and the electric that was in the ballpark that night on
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a warm, open night, it makes you feel again very very proud to
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be something special. Absolutely absolutely well. I mean you have been the general
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manager now of the Iron Pigs. I think since two thousand and seven.
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If I'm not mistaken, Am I correct from that? Yeah? Technically I
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came here in the fall of two thousand and six. Oh first thing I
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did the first week of October was re announced the name of the team contest
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in the fall of two thousand and six. Yep, okay, very ed.
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So I'm there's kind of a two part question for you here because over
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all of these years of you and the Iron Pigs being so integral to the
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to the Lehigh Valley community. Here, there's challenges. There's great times also,
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So I want I want to get from you if possible. You know,
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what what what What's been one of the most challenging aspects of being a
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GM and all the all the years that you have been in here, Kurt,
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Like, what's been that most challenging aspect of being the general manager for
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this team? You know, there's a lot of things. We've had different
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construction projects and I'm just so focused on the fan experience and you want things
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to be perfect, and I allow myself to get caught up and make sure
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things are done on time, and that that provides for some stress and you
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want things to be Praying for the fans and the players and even our employees.
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You know, it's difficult, I think behind the scenes, you know,
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I have a lot of different constituencies that I report to, almost like
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a politician, So you no, I have to, you know, act
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on behalf of our fans. I act on behalf of our game day employees
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and what they want, or our full time employees, or our ownership or
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the Philadelphia Phillies or Major League Baseball or the players on our team and their
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clients are sponsors, season ticket holders, and sometimes that those different groups of
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people don't see eye to eye, right, job bridge those gaps, you
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know, if the owners want something, the fans don't, our employees want
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something, but our marketing partners don't do. They prefer something done in different
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ways. So I guess I'm always trying to bridge those relationships to negotiate and
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do what's best for the team in the long term, right from thirty thousand
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feet. So I think those are the biggest that's like frustrations, but I
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think things challenge, yeah, yeah, challenge yeah, all right. Well,
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on the opposite side of that coin, then, what's been the most
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joyous aspect of being the Iron Picture general manager? In all the years that
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you've been there. Well, I think it's just the relationships you make in
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the community that are very unique and special at this place. You know,
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as Iron Pigs, redraw fans not consumers. So the relationships that our consumers
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have are fanatical. They have a very unique tie to your product, and
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that leads to a lot of people giving feedback and a lot further and a
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lot of the energy behind the decisions that you make, and there's a lot
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of responsibility, but there's a lot of joy in that as well that you
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oversee a community landmark and that people appreciate and take very seriously and want to
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be a part of. So, you know, there's a lot of the
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specifics. For me, I enjoy just creating memories for people and and not
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necessarily means myself, but the ballpark, you know, for someone that will
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say to me, hey, you know, my my grandmother used to be
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shut in. She didn't really want to go anywhere or do anything. Now
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she loves coming out to the ball games. It's given her a reason to
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live or you know, kids on the field to get an autograph, or
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to celebrate someone's anniversary or birthday, and you try to make it special for
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them and only a way that the ballpark can with a unique experience or surprise.
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And you know, that's that's what's really day to day joined as the
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interaction that I have, the relationships with the fans that we do. I
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think one of the one of the best moments for my family, quite frankly,
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and it's something that you all do consistently throughout the season, is when
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you allow the kids to run the bases after the game. My identical twin
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daughters, when they ran the basses after one of the games that we were
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at a few years ago, it was so special to them. To this
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day, they still remember that. So it's those quote little things that really
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do create a big difference for a lot of the fans for sure. And
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moving along here, Kurt, you know, you know we're gonna end up,
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you know, I want to kind of get into some some baseball in
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terms of what it means to the organization as well, because we're gonna end
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up seeing Bryce Harper in Lehigh Valley at some point. You know, one
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of the biggest names in baseball, the biggest name for the Philadelphia Phillies.
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He's gonna be in Lei Valley and likely going to be doing a rehab assignment
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before heading to the Big ball club in Philadelphia to play there after you know
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his injury is, you know, after he's good to go. So I
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saw him last season when he was doing his rehab stint in Lehigh Valley and
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Coca Cola Park was just electric with the fans. You know, I'm wondering,
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what is it going to mean having Bryce Harper come through Lehigh Valley again
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and possibly doing it sooner rather than later based on some reports we're seeing so
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inevitably, What does a talent like that mean when they're going to be doing
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some rehab assignment there at the ballpark. Sure, you know, he's a
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generational talent. We have a lot of talented players come here often. You
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have a group players now that you know make the play ninety eight times out
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of one hundred instead of ninety nine times an I of one hundred. But
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you know, when there's a there's a superstar. I mean, he's a
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genuine superstar um, just like a huge singer or act or rock and roll
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band, and that just drives people to want to be a part of it,
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to want to say they saw him when they saw him at the ballpark.
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Uh, you know, we'd love to have him. Um, there's
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a lot of rumors. It seems like there's a lot of people that feel
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that we're going to have him. So I'm hopeful to continue the I hope
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so I want to come to the ballpark and see him. You know,
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for us, depending on when he comes, we do well every night.
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Like I said, we're generally speaking in the top five in a country attendance
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every year. But when he's here, it just helps him find additional memory.
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And when he came last year, we talked about our staff. It's
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just time to make sure we always play best foot forward. So people see
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that they're coming from Philadelphia, they're coming from two hours away to see Bryce
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Harper in a very intimate atmosphere. It would drove tourism, not just local
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individuals that want to see him, and it's just want to make sure that
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he's here. People see what the Iron Pigs are about in addition to to
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Bryce Harper. But I'll say, you know, he we used watched him
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play in the NLCS in the World Series. You kind of feel like he's
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a bit of a man among men or anytime he takes the play, there's
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a chance that piece of some type of magic will happen. And that was
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the case both as rehab here and then in the playoffs. Just an incredible
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individual has the ability to raise to the occasion. Absolutely. Absolutely, Again,
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folks were talking to Kurt Landisk, general manager of the Lehigh Valley Iron
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Pigs, and as we're kind of, you know, closing outer discussion here,
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I'm wondering if there are any big plans for the Iron Pigs that you
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that you might be able to share with us this season and even in the
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years to come, Like kind of any teasers that you want to throw out
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there, because I'm going to ask you about any big events this season and
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big promotions in a little bit, But is there anything that maybe you can
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share about, you know, where the Iron Pigs really want to go in
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terms of really continuing to make their mark in the community. You know,
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I think the seventy five games that we host, it's always about making each
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one better and having a theme for each night. We kind of look at
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it like planning seventy five different weddings and you try to have the ten thousand
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weddings. It's the Valley's largest rush. You know, we feed ten thousand
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people in two and a half hours, and we hope to do that very
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successfully with hot fresh food. But you know, I think long term and
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who we want to be. I think we want to continue to be a
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stalwart in the community and give back. We've had such success. You know,
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we mentioned off air some of the things we do charitable and really High
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Valley and we've now between the Iron Pigs and our Iron Pigs Charities Foundation,
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we've given out more than two point seven million dollars in cash grants back to
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the local community, which is something we're very proud of. And I think
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we want to continue to do that, not lying grants, but I think
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we want to try to look over the next year and say, all right,
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where can we make an even bigger impact, a sizeable impact with the
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dollars that we raise for our charitable efforts here in addition to giving cash grants
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of two thousand and five thousand, ten thousand, what are we what's a
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need in the community that can we can spend you know, one hundred thousand,
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two hundred, maybe a million dollars on And those are things we have
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to to look at and consider beyond that. You know, we just as
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we talked about, we spent a lot of money on the player amenities and
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making sure those are first class. I think, you know, next year
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and into the future because of COVID, I think we really haven't had a
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huge investment. We do things all the time to make sure the facility is
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maintained and clean and unique and kind of stands up to our name. But
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you know, it makes this too, in the next year or two,
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be able to reinvest back in the primary fan amenities that really get fans excited
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to the ballpark. So I don't want to tip my hat there specifically,
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but you know, that was a big project coming off COVID to complete of
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you know, well over ten million dollars project, and now you know,
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we to be able to kind of put that money or put different moneies back
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into the ballpark that support the fans that come out year after year and night
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after night. I think that's the long term focus for us now as project
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is in our rear mirror. Yeah, I think I think you know,
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I like I like that you said that because my kids always used to love
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playing on the playground area, you know, past like left field area.
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They always enjoy that. They're twelve years old now getting a little old for
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that. So yeah, let's uh yeah, I think an upgrade maybe out
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there would be fantastic, just just for my daughters, just for my daughter's
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Kurt, So, what does twelve What does the twelve year old daughter want
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at a ballpark? Oh my gosh, you know what? They like doing
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their nails, maybe having a nail salon out there. I don't know,
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it's been it's been interesting, to say the least, the preteen years,
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Kurt, the preteen years. But uh, but yeah, we love going
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to the park. So and because of some of the big events and the
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big promotions that you have talked about, my family loves going there. So
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is there anything you can tell us about some of these big promotions that you
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are going to be doing. What we're going to be seeing at Colcoa Cole
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Park this season? Well, you know, our promotional schedule is out and
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there's some great ones on the promo promo schedule. Um, the best ones,
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in my mind are the ones that we haven't announced yet. We take
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probably one a month and we create maybe what I call mini campaigns, and
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we'll be doing an announcement next week relative to our Salute to Philly Knight,
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which is always a new logo, a new look, kind of raise the
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stakes as it used to be with our Steake logo. But there are some
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things as well. With our salute to Lehigh Valley Knight. You know,
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we kind of change our identity, We kind of pay tribute to someone or
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someplace in the Lehigh Valley. Those are really fun to get behind. This
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year, what we'll be doing is we're kicking off the first of at least
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a three part series celebrating a salute to the I should say, to our
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city series with our uniforms. So this year we'll have Allentown be our initial
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city series uniform and salute, and then in twenty four of Bethlehem and then
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twenty five East and so to actually have, even though we're very regional,
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it's Lehigh Valley on one specific night each of the next three years to be
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Allentown, Bethlehem, Easton to kind of pay tribute to those three main parts
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of the lee High Valley. So excited to kind of, you know,
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Jeff, in your mind, if you to think back about Allentown and a
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history and what's unique or different or fun for Allentown. You know what would
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you do? You know, what do you think the announcement would be?
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Oh, my gosh, if it was with regard to Allentown in general,
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I mean, is there Allenthown will be the years announcement and then and then
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Bethlehem and Easton in the future. I mean, so with regard to Allentown,
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I'm wondering, just because there's a song that he did, like Billy
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Joel, I'm wondering if it has anything to do with Billy Joel perhaps,
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and you know his song, his song Allentown, I don't. I don't
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know, Am I right? Or Oh, you're gonna have to wait to
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find out. All right, we're gonna have to wait in the tens of
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thousands of subscribers. But yeah, and folks, By the way, Kurt
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and I did not talk about this prior to hitting the record button, so
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I just threw that out there to me, we did not do that prior.
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But again, Kurt, it was great to have you on the podcast.
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Here again. Kurt landis general manager Lea Valley IronPigs. Where can they
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find the IronPigs online if folks want to get tickets? If they want to
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get involved, sure, just go to IronPigs Baseball dot com. They'll take
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it to our ticket page that also has links. You go to our shop
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IronPigs dot com. But again IronPigs Baseball dot com, our promotions schedule,
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how to purchase group tickets. So many of our fans come out either as
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season ticket holders or mini planned holders, or even just to purchase individual tickets
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for a game. We look for group leaders all the time, people that
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want to bring out their church, their Girl Scout group, their company,
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their organization, their neighborhood. Groups are such a huge impact on our overall
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attendance. But I'll tell you, Jeff, just like opening day is warm
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seventy five degrees, you know, people come out one day at a time,
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and we appreciate everybody that can support us in any fashion. Just like
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you wearing your Ironpig shirt right now, you love it absolutely. I'll say
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this too, buddy. It looks like behind your desk area there there's some
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awards that may be sitting on the floor that you need to hang up rightfully.
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So you've done a fantastic job. Get those awards up on the wall
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that are down down on the floor. Folks. Kurt lands Leigh Valley IronPigs.
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Kurt, join us down the road, my friend. I'd love to
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have you back on the podcast. Thanks so much, Jeff appreciate you.
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It very much was an honor talking to Kurt. I absolutely love the Iron
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Pigs, love the organization. I do live here in the Lehigh Valley.
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I live in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. And what the Iron Pigs have meant to
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our community and to our region for so many years, it cannot be understated
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their partnerships with so many various just entities, nonprofits, other community organizations,
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that they are such a solid foundation of what this Lehigh Valley area is and
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in a sense sort of an identity as well of what this Lehigh Valley really
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is. So again, I so very much appreciate Kurt coming on the podcast
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talking about what's been going on at the park and just you know, how
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how the Iron Pigs have grown over all these years. Ultimately, that's what
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I got from our conversation. So that being said, thanks so much to
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