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AEW Dynamite Preview | IWC Meltdown and the Return of Kenny Omega · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for ignition with the
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aaw fan Hub podcast team. This is Kelson and Alex. Our usual co
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host is on assignment eating cheese in Wisconsin, and uh well he'll be back
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next week. Anyway, let's start the show, and I guess the best
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place to start off is for me to personally thank Tony Kahn for screwing up
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the entire Internet. Thank you so much, Tony, Jesus, I wish
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you well. You know this is supposed to be it's it's I mean,
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I don't know what you guys feel about this, but in my personal opinion,
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this is the whole neck brace thing. Yeah, the Harvey Weinstein thing
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was kind of a low blow, but Harvey Weinstein did a lot of low
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blows, no pun intended. Yeah, let's go there. Anyway, Look,
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it's silly. The whole kfe deck brace thing was silly, stupid.
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I don't know how you feel about it, but man, the Internet rustling
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community lost heir shit over it. Did Tony con take it too far?
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I think that's the only thing he went overboard was with the and the Weinstein
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comment that probably could have been left off but I mean it's not like it's
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not deserved, but you know, it's just I think the whole net brace
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thing, I thought that was perfect. Yeah, people said there, if
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you had just stuck with the pepsi thing, the pepsi analogy to coke,
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that would have been perfect, but they went there. I think Tony sometimes
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gets a little pissed about everything that everybody always says about aw and he kind
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of like, most of the time, let's it go, but this one
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time he says, you know what, I'm gonna have fun with this shit.
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Yeah. I mean, look, I'm a moderator at the aw fat
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subreddit, and by and large the subreddit is just a wonderful place to be.
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I mean, we have really good discussions both positive and negative about AW.
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We welcome it all as long as people could be civil. When he
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wore that run back brace and put to Harvey Weinstein's name out there in relation
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to WWE, holy hell, I wouldn't wor stanut on my worst enemy.
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You wouldn't believe the dumb ass things that people in the Internet wrestling community will
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say when they feel just a little bit threatened about their baby. Stop crying,
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it's up. I mean, it's pro wrestling, Like the hell are
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you moaning and whining about? You know, look, people are expecting,
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you know, with all the all the promotion, that aw got a different
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place. And I want to hear what you guys think about this, that
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they're ratings are all of a sudden going to skyrocket. I call bullshit on
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that. They're not gonna skyrocket. It's going to help, it's going to
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get people interested in it. But it's gotta be something that's ongoing, you
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know. But they're gonna have Tony Hannor and a net grace. You need
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to make sure he's selling it and not moving around his head so much.
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And he needs to sell it a little bit more. And but what when
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you listen Okay, when you listen to Pat back, if he would you
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agree that him and his co host were laughing at the good natured silliness of
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this whole thing. Yes, you drat me anymore, But I think the
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only one that took the wrong way. And when one you try to get
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it the other the wrong way, we're Bischoff and bob Berat and Cornett.
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They're the ones that were like, this is so stupid that I'm thinking to
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myself, Bischoff, you did the same stupid thing thirty five years ago.
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What the hell are you bitching for it? Shot faster? Yeah, in
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its core, at its court, wrestling is stupid, it's silly, it's
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harmless fun. I think that this just proves how much actually the diming was
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perfect. If you think about it. Tony knew he was going to be
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on national TV for three days straight, and they did this perfect. There
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was no better way to get free publicity. He didn't have to pay for
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it. Yeah, you know that says right there. I'm kind of surprised
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though, that the NFL let Tony Kahan wear that eck brace on TV.
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Well, look, while we're being honest here, look, you brought up
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Eric Bischoff, you brought up Dudley, you brought up uh yeah, you
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brought up those three guys. Okay, these guys sit down and they they
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literally think to themselves, we're not going to talk about wrestling tonight. We're
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going to talk about stuff that will rattle, rile up the internet wrestling community.
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And the sad thing is that people buy into the stupidity. Wrestling at
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its core is silly, it's stupid, it's entertainment. It's not to be
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taken seriously. These guys take stupid and silly to a whole other level.
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I'm sorry, but if you are a Jim Cornett, Eric Bischoff and whatever
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Dudley he is, they are performers. That is it. They are performers.
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They take the silliness and stupidity and the craziness of professional wrestling add to
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it. That's all they're doing, and people take it so seriously well that
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that therein is where you lies. The problem is people take them too seriously
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because they take themselves so seriously. I think it comes down to with Cornett
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and Bishoff is that they believe that what they do or what they say should
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be be all end all of what goes on, and if you don't agree
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with them, you're wrong. In the heart of things. In the heart
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of things, Bischoff is a promoter. He's a terrible promoter, right,
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but he's a promoter. Jim Cornett is a successful promoter. He knows what
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he's doing. And I guarantee you that after the shows he sits back and
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looks at the different comments that are made on Twitter and read it and on
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YouTube that are attributed to him, and he's like, look at these stupid
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idiots, because he's like the pied piper. He's leading them into the he's
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leading him into the ocean to drown. I mean, he has these morons
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wrapped around his little finger. And I'm sorry, but it's the truth.
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I don't understand it because they are so freaking serious about this stuff, and
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it's like it's it's freaking professor wrestling. But that's what they do. They
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find something to talk about, like Kevin Nash has been saying it and stuff
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like like I don't care about your opinion. You're in the past. Oh
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yeah. They know exactly what to say, you know. And they're entertainers.
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Jim Cornett is an entertainer, you know. Eric Bischoff thinks she's an
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entertainer. Ericshof's a moron. But anyway, because he has absolutely no right
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to say anything critical about anything, he killed a she's I mean, come
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on, it's it's a sad reflection on life. Now. This is how
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people are anymore. They you don't people A lot of people don't form their
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in an opinion. They have to find somebody else's opinion to follow. And
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that's just sadly what problem is a lot of times with society and everything today,
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and it's just it's it's especially in something that is as as big as
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it is, but it's not you know what I mean, it's kind of
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like a small feel to what wrestling is and and there's it's kind of like
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a small knit I don't want to say a close knit family that is there,
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but you you're it's more than amplified because of the closeness of the of
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the community. You haven't said anything. I want to hear what you have
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to say. Oh well, I was enjoying listening your heart. Yeah.
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Yeah. The the Internet is an echo chamber, so yeah, everybody forms
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their ideas on what everybody else says. But I had a theory about Kenny
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Omega coming back and it ties in with Tony Khan. Where if Kenny is
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going to be the the spokesperson, let's say, for Tony Khan while Tony
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is injured and can't travel, Suppose that Tony himself is kind of having a
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heel turn and he is going to and and he is actually doing it now
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before our eyes, kind of leaning into bad Tony Khan and kind of going
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down the road where Matthew and Nicholas have traveled before, and Kenny is going
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to come back and kind of be like, oh, you know, you
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all thought I was gonna come here and play nice. You know I'm gonna
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come in here and run wild at behest of Tony, And you know it's
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just gonna be a whole lot of nonsense, but in a good way.
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And I think it's gonna be funny. And I think that with Tony Khan
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and that neck brace, I thought the neck brace was hilarious. I also
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think that he's in a position where he could never win. When he takes
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the high road and doesn't respond to critics or potshots that are taken by other
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wrestling promotions, then everyone calls him a nerd and says he's weak minded and
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he's just spending his dad's money. He doesn't know what he's doing. So
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then when he gets down and dirty like everyone else does, he's doing too
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much and he's not a nice guy. So no matter what he does or
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says, he's not gonna win. If I was him, I would have
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talked trash too. I mean, I don't own ae W. I'm just
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a fan and I've had quite enough of the trash talking of ae W.
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I go places, and you know, somebody will say, you know,
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oh you like wrestling because I've got on some independent wrestling shirt or something,
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and oh yeah, oh well, what else do you watch? Oh?
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I watch aw? Oh you watch that crap? Yeah for Pete's saying,
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you know, I'm in I'm in the grocery store, you know, and
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and that's it gets exhausting. Let alone, you know, being on the
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internet. I've avoided the Internet because I know there's a lot of morons on
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there who were just going crazy over this Tony Kahan stuff. But I know
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it, I know, I know. I'm kind of hoping though, for
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like he ol Kenny. I hope he's dyed his hair dark again and he's
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just gonna be bad. Yeah, Nett, you know, look, you're
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You're absolutely right about, you know, stand off the internet. Unfortunately,
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I can't do it. I can't tell you how many times I have seen
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people posting on the AW fan hub subreddit, and I'm sure the other subreddits
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are like this and other fan sites and you know Twitter accounts and whatever.
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You know, people just flooding them with You guys are pathetic. You know,
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you know, calling Tony Kan a clown spending his dad's money like you
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said, things like that, and you know, all that's doing is proving
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to me and it should be proving to Tony khankause Look, there's no such
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thing as bad press. The only bad press is no press at all.
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There are no reactions at all. You know, just by coming on to
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just by coming on to a w fan hub to say that y'all are pathetic.
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Guess what we win, you lose. It's a sim as that you
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lost. And to the point where you know, you said, you see
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people and they tell you you watch that crap, keep you ninety nine point
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nine percent of the people to tell you that have never watched aw and have
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no idea what really happens there. They have based on what they see other
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people say on the internet, or based on what they hear from the jokers
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that have no clue what they're talking about. And that's the problem, that's
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where they all. They always do that. Because I've talked to people they
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say the same exact thing, Well, this is true. If you watch
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it, no, then shut up. That's simple. It comes down to
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I have no problem with letting them run their lips to a point. But
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my personality is the kind of personality that I'm going to clap back. But
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I don't ever like I bring back fact. He can't argue with fact.
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I'm sorry, you can't facts your facts. Yeah, you know what I
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mean. And you can sit there and say, well, this is stupid.
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No, no, And he's spending his dad's money. Really, can
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you prove that? Show me, show me where his dad's money is the
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one that's funding this. I think Tony's got his own money. You don't
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care, you know what I mean. Like him and his dad are to
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the richest men in the world, so you know. And it comes down
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to is it's like everything else in any other sector of life, you're gonna
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have this. Like you said, it's an echo chamber. More people are
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going to have an opinion that is echoed by everybody else actually doesn't think about
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or talk about what they're thinking about or look into it. They don't research
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anything. Yeah, you're going to have that, I mean. And like
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you said, no press, good press. There is no bad press unless
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you're not getting any. However, However, there are people who do think
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that this is wrong and that Tony Kahan is a clown. And that's okay
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because when they express their opinion on say the aw fat up subreddit, they
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actually make an effort to be civil and actually explain why they think that way.
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And I have no problem with that whatsoever. Bring it on. I
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enjoy because if you're if it's just like this podcast we are extremely critical of
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aw If we got on here for sixty minutes every week and when rah rah
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rah rah rah aw is great, great, great, that's the show.
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Good night everybody, we would get a listener in the world, you know
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what I mean. So, yeah, we're gonna bring it up. But
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we're not going to sit here and think up, Oh, what's some crazy
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scenario that we can come up with tonight the stirred a pot. That's not
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what we do, you know, And it's simple. You know. I'd
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like to think that our opinions are honest ones, and our criticisms and our
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platitudes are honest ones as well. We already know that Tony Kahn has said
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in k Fabe of Course, that due to his horrific, horrific, horrible
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neck injury suffered at the hands and feet of Matt and Rip Jackson, that
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he is not He is not allowed to travel out of Jacksonville. He is
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stuck at Jacksonville, you know. So poor Tony. He'll probably be in
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the the work tomorrow night, you know, but off camera he'll be there.
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But here's the thing. He has alluded to the fact that somebody's gonna
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have to step it up, you know. And I'm thinking tomorrow night will
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be Kenny Omega. Do you think that this is a one time shot or
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maybe, you know, not a permanent thing with Kenny Omega, that from
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week to week we may see other people stepping it up and becoming like the
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voice of Tony Khan, the voice of Tony Kahan over over the next several
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dynamites and grand pages and collisions. I could see doing it once or twice
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involved a lot in the back room. Yeah, but Daniels is currently injured,
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so I don't know if they would bring him another KF. But we
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got a lot of KFE injuries and a w so. But yeah, I
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don't know. The way they made it sound from what the way I heard
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it is that he's gonna he's gonna run things from there. He's gonna watch
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it, you know, live and and he'll be in contact. That way
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is the way I took what uh Tony was saying on the broadcast Saturday night.
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But yeah, but what the worst way the inmates will play, right,
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They're gonna go for here. The The only thing about with Kenny is
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if his health is still up in the air. Sure, So you know,
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it would be great if he's there tomorrow night and he can do that
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tomorrow night. But I wouldn't count on it being a weekly thing until he's
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because I'm pretty sure he said he's gonna have to have surgery, so you
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know that that they're gonna have to come up. I mean, Swerve did
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kind of intimate towards that the other day on on Wednesday on Wednesday last week
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when he came out and talked. So, I don't know. It's gonna
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definitely be very interesting. You know who i'd like to see do it is
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Evil Uno. Yeah, I think the natural leader, and I would I
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would like to see him take over. The Dark Order hasn't been getting to
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play that. I think that they should anyway. Are they mm hmm?
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Are they on anything? The Ring of Honor? They've been on Ring of
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Honor a few times. They've done a few like vignettes that have appeared like
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on YouTube and Twitter and stuff like that, but as far as wrestling,
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they're like once a month group. Yeah, eva Uno has his own thing
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going on, so he's doing some other stuff, but I would like to
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see him as the head of any normally been the voice of Tony Kahan.
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So I'm mad at that. I just don't want, you know, some
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laptops feeling stuff. But uh yeah, I mean, I mean, I
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think it'd be Tony Savanni. I kind of would like to see them alternated
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between maybe like a babyface one week to a heel the next week, and
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then baby a baby Face had a heel of being forced to work together to
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oversee the inmates kind of thing, you know. Eventually, So this also
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gives a perfect reason for Jericho the Learning Tree to take over. Lord.
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Do you want me? That's it, I'm muting you. The character he's
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playing perfect can't perfect opportunity? Are right? Wait the hell out of that
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character? You're right. That's the good news is that Tony Kahan has taking
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all the heat off Jericho, of course now for now, until Jericho comes
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out opens his mouth. But you gotta you gotta resp it for a couple
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of days. Yeah, he's okay, sorry, but Jericho's facing at nothing
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right or that? I don't know, and frankly I don't care now tomorrow
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does anybody know or care who Jericho is facing at double or nothing? With
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very many matches for double or nothing yet there isn't. We're gonna find out
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tomorrow night who Swerve will face. And they're they're they're setting Jericho's defending against
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a bushie or not a boushie, but uh yeah against a bus no,
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no, no, okata, Okay, no, you all keep getting them
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mixed up. That's the one. This is what we are. That's so
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so yeah, we'll get I'll say something about that in a minute, because
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it can lead to interesting about Yeah, once we get to that, I
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will say something about it. But let's move on because we are I kind
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of find this a little bit interesting in that we are going to learn who
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will face Swearve Strickland at double or nothing. This is another non wrestling segment
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scheduled for tomorrow night. We already know that will Osprey is facing uh Roderick
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Strong at double or nothing, so it's not gonna be will Osprey who do
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you think is going to face Swerve Strickland for the a W World Championship.
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Mm hmmm, I have no idea, Paige. No, oh god,
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oh I does anybody the idea? No? What? What are the what
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are the rankings right now? Oh? Who see, it's a good idea.
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Here's the problem with what Tony Kahn has done. Everybody's been so focused
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on Tony Kahn and the neck brace thing and all the you know lanya that's
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gone around with that. Nobody's really paying attention to the actual wrestlers this week.
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It's kind of strange. Maybe so I'm kind of looking forward to this.
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Uh maybe maybe to be a shocker like Christie Cage or something like that.
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Yeah. Maybe it's something something huge that we none of us are are
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expecting. Maybe it's Ricky started. I believe Ricky Starks is injured right now,
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so I don't with the learning tree in corner, Oh goodness, is
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not world championship material? How about Dan House? It has world championship material
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than Ricky. Yes he does. I'm gonna in a week. Yeah.
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Well yeah, well, well we all know. Sleasey, go ahead and
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say your pick the face if you have two picks too bad to pick to
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face were strictly for the a W World's Championship at double or nothing, go
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ahead and say, because I know you're dying too well, the first one
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in terms of maybe an actual pick I would have to go with, I
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want to say Orange Cassidy in terms of an actual pick. Now, in
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terms of my pick, that's right, the greatest wrestler of all time.
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Here, here's Griff Garrison, who def is Griff Garrison. Hem, smash
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him. It's gonna be great. Wait, how about J I just swallowed
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my tongue. Well, that actually did bring up m JF, which he's
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actually out getting more shoulder surgery. I believe I'm tired of everyone in their
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surgeries. Come on, guys, we probably won't see NBF until this time
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next year. If we're lucky, I mean, where you can do and
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exploding mard wire death match and do a match the next day. There you
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go. Well, you know, look, I you know that you've been
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like a good point. I just posted not long ago, like an hour
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ago. I posted on the aw fan up subredd at a list of the
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injuries that have wrestlers out. And if you look at that list, of
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injured a W wrestlers, and there's also some non injury people that are out
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due to like suspensions and things like that. But if you look at that
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list of injured a W wrestlers, I swear to you that if you were
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going to start a promotion tomorrow, you would say, oh yeah, give
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you that list, and I can make a good, a great promotion out
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of that. That's how good Aw's roster is. That the people that aren't
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able to wrestle are better than a lot of better than you would expect.
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Is what I wanted to say. You can actually start a promotion with the
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injured wrestlers. Of course they're injured, so they would be able to wrestle
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to your promotion to just fall apart right away. But you know, I
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read that person thought the exact same thing. This would be one hell of
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a way to start a new a new wrestling federation. That's a hell of
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a list. It is really the we're going to start a dow fash the
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infirmary. Oh lord, Buddy Matthews, he could fight. No, Well,
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I think it's gonna be Jack Perry. Jack. I'm kind of if
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they do something with Jack Perry, I do think that there's a strong chance
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it could be Jack Perry And if it was Jungle Boy, whatever pay per
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view it is, I will buy it. I will somehow go into debt
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to buy a pay per view to watch mm hmmm mmm, because once again,
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once again Sleazy wants to have Jack Berry's baby. H I don't know.
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I really don't find the rankings. I don't know whether that's they just
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need to drop the obviously don't mean anything any announce for blood. Yeah,
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Eddie Kinkston going for the a W World Championship. That's a that's a banger.
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It comes down to this, who you are such a good judge of
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characters, who has who has stooded with over the last on this run to
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get into the title that he could wrestle Now, not really anybody left,
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so they got to start over all brand new with that because they're not going
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to give a rematch. So you know some moo Joe's not going to be
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there hanging out the next one, but he's out for a family reason or
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whatever. So unless he comes back, which he could, he would be
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one that could do it. But I think it's going to be the e
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VP choice and it's going to be a Jack Perry thing. Yeah, it
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could be, that's my opinion. It could be Jay White. You know,
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the fact of the matter is you don't want to put somebody like look,
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here's why. Here's what I look at it. Okay, Swerve just
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won the championship and he's not going to lose the championship at double or thing.
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So you don't want to put somebody that is really, really hot,
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whether it's in ring or doing promos or storyline against swear Strickland, just to
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have them lose and fade away into the darkness. That's one reason why I
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don't think like that Jack Perry would be a good choice. Kind of.
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I wouldn't want to see Jay White either, because he's already wrestled for the
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aw championship and lost. Yeah, so it's I don't know, I really
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don't know. Claudia loses to everyone. Claudio is like a taller Serpenteico these
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days. But here's the thing. But here's the thing. He gave.
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That match between him and Swerve the other night was an amazing match. Yeah,
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absolutely, But at the end of the day, well I get that,
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and like you said, he's not he's not losing it double or nothing.
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So you want to have somebody who will do what Claudio did. He'll
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go into the match, he'll give you everything he can get. He'll make
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Swerve look like the greatest wrestler of all time and he'll lose. Yeah,
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well, it's it's going to be the staff all the spoiler alert. So
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oh it's a boss. No no, no, no, no, no,
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no no no w W Championship champion there ever was because they tell about
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it, it's going to be the other guy. He's the other one they
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let lo. I can't, man, I don't wasn't enough to remember,
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uh, the Indian guy there you go. Oh, that's why I meant
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I don't know why I'm thinking Wait ante, Yeah, have I mentioned before
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that I'm an idiot. That's why I meant to say it was all but
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I stop a cave cave my mind out of my mouth. So anyway,
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you know that you brought up buddy Matthews and we've got a match tomorrow night
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where Adam Copeland is going to be facing one of the members of the House
31:12
of Black. I personally believe that it's going to be Adam Copland versus Malachi
31:19
Black at double or nothing, and that they're going to use Buddy Matthews and
31:26
Brody King to wear down Adam Copeland over the next few weeks, two or
31:33
three weeks still, so that he's sufficiently beat up. I look for Adam
31:41
Copeland to get the snot beat out of him without any regard for windsor lawses,
31:47
meaning that the House of Black member that does face them tomorrow night is
31:49
just going out there to try to cripple Adam Copland. I think that's the
31:53
storyline that they're going to go for, you know, just to kind of
31:57
weaken them, weaken him like they did with Orange Cassie in this first run
32:00
where he got to stop beat out of him and made him such an underdog
32:04
even though he was the champion, you know, and then he had to
32:07
pull out the win, you know, seventy two times or whatever. He
32:10
did good. But what do you think do you think that I'm right?
32:14
Do you think that the goal here is Malachi Black and Adam Copeland at double
32:19
or nothing. You got to do your favorite man, stay out of my
32:22
damn head. Well, when you've got two people sharing the same brain cell,
32:28
as I did say last week, it's not that hard. I mean,
32:31
come on, yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent. I
32:34
think that's what's going to happen. I think it's going to be the beginning.
32:38
I think I actually think Malachai is going to win that title. Ship
32:45
will passed you for a win. Yes, I agree, and it would
32:52
I think. I mean, I don't know how everybody else feels, but
32:54
I kind of think that it would really elevate Malachi Black to have the TNT
33:00
Championship and it really wouldn't do anything to hurt out of Copeland to lose it
33:04
because he's already lost it at what thirty six seconds or whatever it was the
33:08
last time you lost it. Well then, and then somebody asked a question
33:15
somewhere about they were talking about something had to do with who they would want
33:20
to see do something, and they said, where is Christian? They kind
33:25
of just like completely eradicated that whole faction with that loss. Nobody none of
33:32
them have been seen in aw since they're rebuilding for something. So but but
33:37
basically, you've taken away any momentum that that patriarch thing had. Now they've
33:45
been gone for almost three weeks now, and let me let me ask you
33:51
this suthing. We have a dynamite in Canada, and I've already said that,
34:00
uh that the House of Black is probably going to do everything in their
34:02
power to cripple Adam Copeland, you know, leading up into what I believe
34:08
is the match between he and Mile Kay Black at double or Nothing. Do
34:12
you think we may see Christian come out possibly and help save Adam Copeland do
34:20
nothing leading to it? Nope, I don't think it'll happen to a double
34:24
and nothing. I think he'll be if they they kind of gotta get you
34:30
can't just leave, I mean while you can, but then that's WW too
34:34
much WW like where they just completely let it go and don't do anything to
34:37
finish it because the patriarchy hasn't been finished yet. They hanging. It's dangling
34:45
out there with no end. They need to do something with that. They
34:49
don't need Adam Copeland to do that. They don't need the House of Black
34:51
to do that. They can do that on their own. They can have
34:54
it's dangling like Adam Copeland's nuts when Mama Mama and has a hockey stick YEP,
35:00
I get it. Yeah. Plus the Spike, I mean, I
35:04
mean Spike would have hurt really bad. Yeah, but for a month.
35:07
I mean, come on, now, he's been hitting them nuts enough times
35:12
playing hockey and and ladder matches and everything else that they've done over the years
35:15
together. I think he's I think he I think there's time to They've got
35:20
to do something with that. Okay, hockey for the Toronto Yes, so
35:25
sleazy. What I think what we should do is we should call Adam Copeland,
35:29
get try to get in touch with Adam Copland. See if you can
35:30
get get Spike off with him. Borrow Spike for a day and hit El
35:36
Sutton and the nuts with it, and see how long he's out. I
35:42
don't think that's happening thing. I've got enough physical problem on the shoulder.
35:47
I'm out for I'm out for days. Man, Oh my god. So
35:52
no, I mean, I get it, But it's it's you know what
35:55
I mean, there's just you. It's to me, it's there's no clue
36:00
you're on that you had him lose. He got injured, and you've seen
36:04
none of them, not Lucasaurus, not the boy, not the mom,
36:09
nobody, nothing, not a word heard from him. They haven't talked about
36:14
the boy. That's the one point that. It kind of gets on my
36:20
nerves, is they made him out to be such a great wrestler, and
36:23
the boy anyways less than I do he will be. He is getting there.
36:31
I mean, he's he's better off than a lot of them when they
36:34
start out. But I don't know, I see that. I think that
36:37
over the next few weeks, uh, I mean, there's a lot of
36:42
ways he can do it, But I think over the next few weeks they're
36:44
going to end up having Christian. He's gonna come back. He's going to
36:47
have a meltdown or some kind somewhere along the line. And at the double
36:52
or nothing pay per view, Copeland's going to be getting the crap kicked out
36:57
of him. He's gonna lose the title. Then they're gonna start beating the
37:00
shoot out of them after the magic and that's when he's gonna come out.
37:02
And that's how they're gonna cook those two up. That's just the way I
37:06
got it going, right. Well, does anybody else have anything to say
37:09
about the Adam Copeland and versus The House of Black saga? You know?
37:17
So let's move on to Oh God, here we go, The Learning Tree,
37:23
Chris Jericho versus Kattiori Shabata. I don't really have anything to say about
37:30
this other than other than to say earlier today I made a post a poll
37:35
actually on aw faed hubs subreddit, and the question in the poll was it
37:44
was, uh, now that the trio's titles have been unified, thank God,
37:49
what should a W do with their titles going forward? And the and
37:53
the the The selections were unify the international and continental titles, retire the FTW
38:01
title at a woman's tag team title, all of the above, None of
38:07
the above and well other only got three votes, so we're not even going
38:12
to talk about that, but by a pretty decent margin. Surprisingly retired the
38:16
FTW title. I don't know if that has to do with just simply because
38:22
Jericho has it, or if it's because the ft W title is whatever you
38:30
know, you know, but most of the votes went to retire the FTW
38:36
five title, and a lot of votes went to all of the above,
38:39
meaning that people want to see women's tag team titles and the unification of the
38:44
international and continental title. You know. With that, So my question to
38:49
you guys is, first, let's talk. You know, I want to
38:52
hear your thoughts about this match. And the Learning Tree also want you to
38:55
you know, hear your thoughts on it. Are we We've heard it a
38:59
loose before throwing the FTW Championship into the garbage can and setting it on fire
39:06
where it belongs, it needs to stay out. I'm not a fan of
39:13
the belt itself because it doesn't have purpose, but I like what Jerich is
39:17
dealing with it because it's for the world. But they eventually and Heed died
39:23
out. I don't know why the keep and bring it up and Hook keeps
39:27
on having it and having it not because if Hook's gonna actually be somebody in
39:31
aw he has to get rid of that belt and has to quit hanging around
39:36
his father's legacy is a great legacy, yes, but just like a lot
39:40
of the other guys, they have to step away from their dad and be
39:45
somebody by themselves. And Hook will never be that unless he drops the FTW
39:51
title. Oh he's no longer the FTW title holder anymore, Jered, Well,
39:57
he'll get him back. Yeah, I agree with it, don't Yeah?
40:00
I agree. I don't want to see it. I want Jericho to
40:02
be the last ft W Tyrell titled. I don't think that's ever gonna happen.
40:12
I think it's actually put in in uh as his contract that f t
40:19
W TREDI will be in AW as long as he's there. I kind of
40:22
think so too. That's pretty uh conceited of him to do if that's part
40:32
of If that's part of his contract, well, I and and it's and
40:37
it's more or less it's a way to I think they did it because it
40:44
harkens back to the old ec W in a way and gives them a connection
40:49
to that history, which plays into what Tony Coln loves about wrestling anyway.
40:54
So I don't know. I kind of like the f T T TW title,
40:58
but uh, I don't know. It's just it's one of those things
41:05
where if it's there, it's there. If it's not, it's not.
41:08
Well, I'm not gonna make or break aew. Well, I'm gonna have
41:14
to disagree with first off, the fifteen people who voted on our subreddit poll
41:17
and everyone who's saying the FTW title should be retired. Hold on here,
41:24
did you just say fifteen people voted on the the subreddit poll. Well,
41:30
the fifteen people who voted that the FTW Championship should be retired, I wait,
41:35
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute. Did you
41:37
just say fifteen people voted on the retirety. I think you may need to
41:40
refresh your browser there, buddy, dude, I said the fifteen people who
41:46
voted for the FTW Championship to be retired on our pole. I understand that,
41:52
But a lot more than fifteen people voted for the ft W Championship to
41:57
be retired. Is what I've told you. You need the refresh browser.
42:00
Okay, Well, however many people voted on the bubble. I disagree.
42:07
Yeah, I disagree with all them, like as as I'm pretty sure it
42:10
was someon who said it before. I don't know. I'm working on a
42:13
gray screen right now, but Sutton just said that we have that ECW connection
42:17
with the FTW Championship. And I don't know about you guys, but ECW
42:21
back in the day was pretty good. It had all that extreme wrestling and
42:24
stuff. Don't we like extreme wrestling? Don't we like having that connection to
42:29
extreme wrestling? And doesn't AW feel a lot like extreme wrestling right now?
42:34
I'm feeling it's pretty extreme right now. And the words of Elsa let it
42:39
go never Yeah, hard disagree with you there. Here's the thing. Here's
42:47
the thing. AW is its own entity. It's combining a bunch of stuff
42:53
from the past and the new stuff. It does have elements of the WCW.
42:58
It does have elements of ECT because that all came from well, not
43:02
the ECW, but the WCW has a history with the connections to the TV
43:07
and where they're at right now and the people that the people who are in
43:12
like Tony Shavanni and even with JR. And that because your worked there for
43:16
a while. It's a good thing to have in some ways because it gives
43:21
you that connection. But AW is AW. There's they they don't compare to
43:27
anybody else. They're doing things that have never been done before, like having
43:31
the best men's roster that's probably ever been assembled in one in one company,
43:38
getting the women's division up to that point too so. But it does give
43:44
you that little bit of a way in because honestly, ECWWCW got treated like
43:51
shit by WWE, and it's another way to dig a little bit at what
43:55
a what WCW or WWE did and that's something that you know they that's a
44:02
way for them to do that. That's just where it seemed like to me,
44:07
I kind of was like, I think I even posted it. I
44:10
think they should just leave it all alone right now. Yeah, you're one
44:15
of those three people that said leave it alone, right And honestly, the
44:19
reason I say that is they've got so many things that are going on right
44:23
now that it let it go for the time being. Get through the to
44:30
the builders up and through to all in, get to that, get through
44:36
forbidden door, get you all in, and then maybe have a women's tag
44:40
team division and then maybe have the combination of the two and get rid of
44:46
FTW. But until then, there's so much stuff going on right now that
44:51
just adding more onto it could make it. It could weaken the overall picture.
44:59
T in away. No one will notice, so well he would notice.
45:07
The point is. The point is here's a point that I'll make.
45:10
Okay, when aw is original or tries to be original, that's when people
45:20
talk. Let's look at the Continental Classic tournament that they did. That got
45:24
talked. They got a lot of talk. Okay, this is probably the
45:30
most we've ever talked about the FTW belt ever on this podcast. So we've
45:37
been doing this for a year. We don't talk about it because it's it's
45:40
not worth talking about. You know, it's not what It's not at the
45:45
level of the TBS Championship. It's not the level of t n T certainly
45:51
not the level of the not even the trios. It's the lowest of the
45:54
lowest level belts that isn't it's not even unrecognized. But sure it's nostalgia.
46:01
It's the stallsia. But guess what nostalgia doesn't bring new viewers in. Doing
46:07
something original and exciting brings new viewers in championships never going to be exciting.
46:15
Well, hopefully Tony Khan can do some original extreme wrestling if we're gonna be
46:21
tiring in anyway, you know, I feel like you go ahead. I'm
46:28
talking about ECW levels of extreme. When they had that FTW rules match,
46:34
did you see how many times we were like, you know, well,
46:37
I mean, I know that I'm taking a chant from the bucks here,
46:40
but I'm pretty sure most of us sensible people or like please make care paulp
46:46
like, like, come on, man, that that FTW rules match was
46:51
pretty good and and and and it just you know, like the wrestling part
46:57
was good, the extreme part was gone awful. I thought it was fine.
47:01
I mean, I mean the tinfoil garbage can bit has been overdone.
47:07
We have had some amazing extreme matches in a W, sure, but that
47:15
the uh the the the light to a couple of different lights out matches,
47:22
A couple of matches I thought someone was gonna die was a great example of
47:30
what's that were versus Hangman too was a great example of that where they went
47:35
to war and it looked good and that reminded me of Terry Funk and then
47:40
that and that's a great tribute to c W if you want one. But
47:45
they don't need a title that I have been title, but never was a
47:47
title be hanging around and say look at me. I look I look cool,
47:52
but I have no you know, I have no purpose. The only
47:55
way I am ever going to accept that the ft W Championship is game retired
48:00
is if it gets a full on storyline that goes before it has is like
48:05
I'm retiring this belt. Yeah nobody cares now. Yeah. See. My
48:10
thing is is like after this match which Jericho will win, Kenny Omega comes
48:15
out, takes the belt, throws the dreshkin of lights on. That's it.
48:19
I thought that the belt was like some secretive outlaw belt. So yeah,
48:28
they could do something with it, like like hold secretive matches that you
48:32
know exactly that gets it. Yeah. Yeah, they aren't like, you
48:38
know, talked about you know, it's it's kind of quiet thing. I
48:45
don't know. That's the way to bring excitement to the show is by doing
48:49
something that's secret. And yeah secret Billy Billy Billy the Kid is dead and
48:57
so is the ft W Championship. You know, I don't know about you
49:00
guys. I live. I live for those those like the EVPs are great
49:07
at it. They never have to talk. All of their subtle looks and
49:12
glances, all that kind of stuff. I think it's fantastic. TAZ could
49:17
be doing all that kind of stuff anytime FTW. Just give a little sideways
49:24
look and if you know, you know, maybe you follow them on social
49:29
media and find out some things about the FTW matches. You know who else
49:34
you should follow on social media? The AW fanhub follow our social media is
49:37
today. Well, thank you for that plug. I honestly though, I
49:45
mean maybe one of the issues is that since day one, I have not
49:52
cared about FTW and I will never care about FTW, So maybe that makes
49:57
me a little jaded. So I was never into e c W myself.
50:04
I you know, tas Haas has had a decent one other place, but
50:09
I just I just don't see the need for it. I don't think if
50:15
you did a worldwide thing about how many people actually how many thanks I actually
50:20
cared about it? I bet it would be slim. I really do.
50:23
I don't think people care enough the page into it. And like I said
50:28
before, Cook needs to get away from that title and be his own man,
50:31
and maybe it is better for him to do it. Well that's totally
50:37
n x T. Well, well it shook the problem because he's he's he's
50:42
struck with his dad. I mean he has to move away from task.
50:45
Has a little successful wrestler who's who's use his dad is a correct is Cody
50:52
Rose. So I mean everybody else has to at some point move away and
50:58
and be either on man. If he can't do that, you know I
51:06
would disagree with that because Hook hasn't hasn't used I mean, he's held the
51:09
f tt ft W title. He hasn't gotten any help from his dad.
51:15
Even when he's having this thing with Jericho, He's not getting any help with
51:19
his dad. From his dad. He is his own man. The FTW
51:22
title isn't a legitimate title, so that's what's holding him back. He has
51:28
nothing to do with him being involved with his dad. He has a staying
51:30
out of it, a good job of stayed out of it. I will
51:35
give him that. I don't think he's had anything to do with with anything
51:38
that that Hook. I mean, you know it's gonna be the same thing
51:40
in the back politics or politics. He's gonna be pushing the help to get
51:45
him some stuff. But when it comes down to it, Book's done what
51:49
Hook's done on his own your game that time and it still be relevant.
51:55
I mean it goes back, it goes Hamburger Stars and Jack Curry had it.
52:04
You know, it's gone back and forth and back and forth, and
52:07
then at some point you need to put him a tag team and put a
52:10
title on him there or put him on the T and T. But he
52:14
has to evolve from just being the outlaw title guy. Well, look,
52:23
unless they actually book an interesting match consistently, not just one every once in
52:30
a while, but do a consistent match, do you have to do the
52:34
FTW title matches would be commesurate to two bules fighting over a daisy peers.
52:42
You know, That's the way I look at it. So let's move on
52:45
to the last match of the night. It's not gonna be the main event,
52:49
but it's the last one to talk about how I actually kind of find
52:52
this to be kind of an interesting matchup. It's Mariah May and Serena d
52:58
both of them high in the ranking, and uh, this could have some
53:05
ramifications here. I mean, Serena deeb is issued a challenge. You know
53:08
how Mariah May is tight with Tony Storm. Kind of like to see Mariah
53:14
May versus Tony Storm, kinda like to see Serena Deep against Tony Storm.
53:19
Well, I think, well, I think Serena Deeve should definitely get the
53:23
win over Mariah May, because I mean, first off, isn't Mariah May
53:29
like very young and stuff like that. Meanwhile, I'm pretty sure Serena Deeve's
53:35
like what forty She has a lot of angring experience, and I feel like
53:39
a match between her and Tony Tony Storm is going to be a pretty good
53:45
match, and I feel like she's going to be a pretty solid champion for
53:47
the AW World Championship, especially as he is deemed the Woman of a thousand
53:52
holes. Like there's just so much you can work with with Deean right now,
53:57
Mariah May, she's just Tony storms lack dog right now, you know,
54:02
like like like the evil little pet that you have on your lab and
54:06
it's like that's just all she feels like right now, Serena, Deeve has
54:09
something. And that's saying something coming from somebody who hasn't been able to watch
54:13
the show for months because I've been busy with college. But uh, yeah,
54:15
that's what I say. That's fair, that's fair. You left that
54:22
one piece to the puzzle, mir miror Shira Cowell. I see, I
54:31
don't see dee I mean Deep might beat Mariah. She's not winning the title,
54:37
not yet anyway, It's not gonna happen. Tony's gonna keep the title
54:44
until all in, And honestly, I think there's gonna be a surprise opponent
54:47
there. We're kind of along the same lines, but we're a little bit
54:52
different. Who else has an opinion about this? I don't know, Well,
55:01
you don't know as an opinion, what about your I don't have an
55:06
opinion on this, but I mean, who's so, what is the main
55:09
event? Is my question I would have if I had to pick a an
55:15
event, I would go out of Copland versus one of the members of a
55:20
Well. Look, when it comes to Mariah May, I agree with both
55:23
Sutton and Sleazy on this because you both made good points. Diva is a
55:30
veteran. She will probably put on uh. She would probably be the on
55:37
paper for most the better opponent. But I'm going to say this and just
55:45
may get some booze, but Mariah May is a better wrestler right now than
55:52
Serrina Debaz Boom. She really is. I mean, she's got she's got
55:58
more athleticism, she's got you know, while Serita Deeb is a is a
56:05
technical wizard, Mariah May is more entertaining, She's got, you know,
56:10
the stardom touch's she's athletic, she's smooth. I would say that Mariah May.
56:17
Here's the thing, this is something I don't know. If you were
56:24
to rank the top five wrestlers in the aw Women's division active not injured right
56:30
now, I would definitely put Mariah May in that top five. I would
56:36
not put Serita deeb in that top five. I'm not putting to any storm
56:39
in that top five. I would not either. Yeah, it would be
56:44
uh. Like I said, the problem I'm having with this whole thing is
56:49
they made the mistake of allowing Tony to make that match for Forbidden Door with
56:55
mirashir Kawa. That shouldn't never happened. I know, what's that? Did
57:02
you just say filler season? No, they should I said they they had
57:08
a setup at these when Tony went to Stardom for a setup between her and
57:15
Mirror, shirk Kawa to having mass is most likely going to happen at Forbidden
57:19
Door. They got ahead of themselves because that makes people were starting to go,
57:23
well, you've got this and you haven't interacted, but they're not.
57:25
It's it's adding to like I said earlier, there's too much confusion in the
57:30
women's division right now. You've got so much stuff going on at the same
57:32
time that it gets weird because you had Miraorirkwa in the ring the other day,
57:42
Tony's in the ring with her and they didn't interact at all. You've
57:45
got Mariah interacting with Mirror like they used to be in Stardom, yet it's
57:52
not causing any issues for Tony, and it don't make any sense throwing deep
57:58
in the mix is just weird even further because does Dee deserve a title shot?
58:04
Probably? Is she going to get the title shot? Probably not.
58:09
She might get double or nothing. Is there a story behind the title shot?
58:15
Not really? No, I mean if not. So you know,
58:19
you have the ultimate storyline there is pure Kawa, Marame and Tony Storm.
58:25
You have the perfect triangle there. You can run it from now until then
58:30
because you've got double or nothing where you can have you can have Tony meltdown,
58:37
which we've been saying forever. So I I you know, somebody mentioned
58:42
somewhere in the suburb about the women's divisions gotten so much better. Actually really
58:46
hasn't because you've got more people there, but you still have the same six
58:51
girls that are involved in Rest and in the in the storylines, there's nobody
58:54
else involved. You had the Statlander Willow Heart, and then you've got Tony,
59:01
Mariah and thunder Rosa and Thing. There are six people seven and that's
59:09
it. You don't have any of the other people coming into it. Yet.
59:13
Now you're throwing in uh Willow with Money for a title that probably Money
59:21
really doesn't need to have that title because she should be involved in the Women's
59:25
Championship instead of the other. But that's where they're starting her, So,
59:30
I mean they've got a lot of things they need to work out in the
59:32
women's division. I just think this whole deep thing is kind of like a
59:38
I think it should have happened after well, Well Dee would certainly be a
59:44
better champion the Mercedes Mom name, because you would just stand around there,
59:50
ce ceo instead of actually putting on a quality match. Well, as I
59:58
said before, you're correct, is that Mariah May and Tony Storm and Mina
1:00:05
Shirakawa are very much embroiled in a storyline, but Serita deeb inserted herself kind
1:00:15
of out of nowhere in it. And I don't want to see a kind
1:00:20
of out of nowhere match at Double or Nothing. I want to see a
1:00:23
storyline match at Double or Nothing. You know, that's a pay per view
1:00:28
match. I could see maybe Serita Dee you know, next week on Collision
1:00:32
fighting Tony Storm, you know, for the belt. That's the kind of
1:00:37
I don't think that's a pay per view match, And I hate it because
1:00:39
I really do like Serita de but I don't think it's been set up as
1:00:45
a pay per view match. Now we still have what three and a half
1:00:50
weeks before Double or Nothing actually hits. That may or may not be plenty
1:00:55
of time to actually get a storyline going. But even then I just don't
1:01:01
see it that it is. It'll be rushed. You've been investing the time
1:01:06
in the Mari in the Mina Shirakawa and Mariah May storyline with Tony Storm,
1:01:12
so why not explore it to its fullest because it doesn't have to stop with
1:01:16
one match, It could keep going. I express my opinion that that it
1:01:24
should be even if it's a three way, it should be Mina Shirakawa winning
1:01:30
the winning the title at Double or Nothing, taking it back to stardom,
1:01:37
so that it gets gets a little bit of a the start up a little
1:01:42
bit of a boost because Maror Gold is starting up around that time at the
1:01:45
same time that Double or Nothing happens. I believe May twentieth is when Maror
1:01:51
Gold starts, so this will be having an AAW World Championship Belton startup will
1:01:57
really really really boost stardom. Then you have at Forbidden Door. Then you
1:02:06
have Mina shir Kawa defending your title against whomever, whether it's Tony storm Mariah
1:02:12
b Sriita Deeb. That's when you do it, you know, and and
1:02:15
she could lose the title then, But I just I don't want to see
1:02:20
a rushed Women's a W World Championship match. And I'm sorry, but I
1:02:24
don't think three weeks there's enough time to get Serena Deeb. You know,
1:02:30
the interested Mariam would get. It would definitely be easier to develop Serena Deep.
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Why do you say that because have you have you seen Maria May Russell?
1:02:46
No, I said Mercedes Monette? Oh yeah, you cut out there.
1:02:52
Have you seen Mercedes Monet Russell in the last two years? Here here's
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how I think alonger lines of the whole stardom thing. Actually, I think
1:03:01
Mariah May should beat Deep this week, and you could use that as a
1:03:07
way to for Deep to start questioning herself because she's supposed to be the professor.
1:03:14
And maybe because of Mariah's affiliation in the past with stardom, Deep could
1:03:22
go there to learn about and learn from that and do something with that,
1:03:30
maybe get her in there, and then she can come back later on and
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they can do a full on storyline involving all that. Something along those lines.
1:03:38
You know, as a guy, i'd I actually like to hear what
1:03:43
Nat says about this. I hate to put you on the spot, debt,
1:03:45
but how's a guy? You know, I think a lot of I
1:03:50
kind of feel like what a lot of people see Mariah May. They look
1:03:52
her at the you know, maybe like the sexy, blonde and hard to
1:03:58
take seriously kind of character. But the fact of the matter is, Mariah
1:04:01
May is a damn good professional wrestler. She's technically sound, She does the
1:04:09
best drop kicks in ae W by far, and nobody will convince me of
1:04:14
otherwise that, you know. You know, I think people forget that Brian
1:04:18
May is a damn good wrestler. I think so too. I think that
1:04:25
happens to a lot of women wrestlers, not just her. But I think
1:04:30
she is very good, and yeah, I see her going very far in
1:04:38
a W if she so chooses. So yeah, I think she should be
1:04:45
recognized more for her for her talent than her looks. But yeah, you
1:04:48
know, I mean several women that have had belts at AW that Maria May
1:04:54
is a better wrestler. I think so too. She's better to Julia Hart,
1:05:00
She's better than uh Willow Nightingale. Yeah, you know, she's better,
1:05:05
you know, as far as I I don't want to say it,
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but she's pretty equal with like somebody like a Chris Statlander. I think they
1:05:13
both have their strengths and weaknesses. Yeah, you know, you know,
1:05:15
but you know, come on, you know, I think she's better than
1:05:18
thunder Rosa. Mm hmmm. I think she's better than Britt Baker. Yeah.
1:05:24
I can't stand Britt Baker. So yeah, oh, you know,
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you see, what I'm saying is that That's what I'm saying is that she's
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a damn good wrestler. She's not just a you know, a cute blonde.
1:05:39
She's a she's she's got talent. Yeah, that's why I think she's
1:05:44
going to beat Deep tomorrow night. And and that's gonna again. There's just
1:05:49
so many things that they could do with this storyline. Well here, look,
1:05:55
somebody mentioned so somebody mentioned that Serena deeb is pushing forward. She's actually
1:06:00
thirty seven. So maybe this is the time to give Serenade but a little
1:06:04
shot at the championship gold, you know, and give her the spotlight.
1:06:08
But at the same time, I believe my Mariah May is only twenty five,
1:06:12
which means she's got plenty of time, but injuries happened. I think
1:06:15
you gotta take take advantage of Maria May why you've got her, you know,
1:06:19
and get her in the championship picture. Not saying give her a belt,
1:06:26
but make give her that shot too, so you can argue both ways.
1:06:30
Put some eyes on it. No, while we're talking. While we're
1:06:35
talking about this, I was having a discussion with another wrestling friend and I
1:06:42
thought i'd bring it to the podcast before it and it relates to Serena deeb.
1:06:47
One of my fantasy matches is Serena wrestling Danielson, and I would love
1:07:00
to see it, and I don't think that we would see it on TV
1:07:06
because it seems that at least American audiences have issue with intergender matches, and
1:07:18
some places in America have problem with women's wrestling. So it's unfortunate because I've
1:07:26
seen some darn good intergender matches and I would love to see the two of
1:07:31
them wrestle. I think that Serena is an excellent wrestler. That doesn't mean
1:07:38
that Mariah May or anybody else isn't I, you know, I just I
1:07:43
think she is and I would really love to see her wrestle Danielson. So
1:07:48
have you seen like the likes of like Chris Statlander and all that wrestling the
1:07:56
men move on? I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen
1:08:02
it. Yeah, there's some really good intergender matches out there. If you
1:08:09
know anybody's looking for them, you can find them. They were good matches.
1:08:13
They weren't like, oh this is stick and stuff like that. Right.
1:08:18
Again, the problem comes in in our society. That's considered abuse.
1:08:26
That's what that's why it's looked at. That's why you won't see it in
1:08:30
our American culture. That's not going to happen. It's not looked at like
1:08:33
other places. They have those matches in Japan all the time. Yeah,
1:08:38
and they have some really damn good matches, like you said, Kelsey,
1:08:42
but I just never see that. I mean, they could do it in
1:08:44
Indy. Yeah, they do it in Indies. It'll never be on TV
1:08:48
like that though. I mean they've been doing them for how long and like
1:08:53
WW did them and it's always you got to have the girl come in when
1:08:56
the girl tags in. So I would love to see it when you know
1:09:00
the Statlander could do it. I'm pretty sure de would give that would be
1:09:02
a hell of a match. Speaking of a hell of a match, did
1:09:05
you guys, any of you guys see the Machi you know, Murder Grandpa
1:09:09
match? Yes, Grandpa was on. It was it was not an a
1:09:16
w but Machi you know, and Murder Grandpa did a match, and that
1:09:19
was just pure silliness and entertainment. I mean, Machiedo was crying, the
1:09:27
referee was crying. Burder Grandpa was just like Murder Grandpa. And I love
1:09:34
the end of it where after the match, Murder Grandpa won and then Machio
1:09:41
flipped him off and he grabbed her by the bird the middle finger and dragged
1:09:45
her out of the ring and up the ramp and back to the locker room.
1:09:48
It was just a perfect ending. But yeah, that was a Schnick
1:09:51
match. That was total stick, you know. But you have the way
1:09:56
they could do one on TV. But the problem there is you got to
1:10:00
get the network to agree. You remember when I think it was Adam Cole
1:10:08
got handcuffed to the ropes and Britt Baker came in to try to save him,
1:10:11
and she got like a she got like a per nose crushed or something
1:10:15
by accident. Yeah, oh my god. On the nine had the domestic
1:10:23
abuse survivors there and they got in all that trouble. It was just it
1:10:30
was, look, you know, they can't risk that kind of stuff.
1:10:33
That was and even though they tried to play it off rightfully, so you
1:10:38
know, people were crying abuse and stuff like that, and I'm like,
1:10:41
oh my god, you cannot give the Internet wrestling community any kind of ammunition
1:10:47
to come down on anything you do. It's like, you know, here's
1:10:53
some free ammunition. Go yeah, yeah, yeah, no, you're go
1:11:03
ahead. My favorite thing he was saying, give an ammunition stuff. My
1:11:10
favorite thing was when uh Jericho and the guy from g c W had their
1:11:15
match and they had a pizza cutter and then right after that they were the
1:11:18
dominance commercial during en during the Remember that that was funny. Yeah, oh
1:11:27
my god. There's a lot of ironies in wrestling, isn't there There is
1:11:31
a lot. Well, well, look in the end, as just enjoy
1:11:43
to run, just enjoy to show, you know, That's that's the way
1:11:46
I look at it, though. You know, it's it's a show.
1:11:48
It's entertainment. Whether you want to believe it or not, that's up to
1:11:53
you because hey, for me, it's real. Damn it, No it
1:11:56
isn't. But anyway, you know, I just it's fun to talk about
1:12:02
spoiler, spoiler anyway. It's like, but no, you understand what I'm
1:12:10
saying, right, It's it's it's it's a post that be fun and just
1:12:15
enjoy the ride. It's fun to fantasy book what you would do if you
1:12:19
were in charge of the shows, you know. And it's it's fun to
1:12:24
criticize when something isn't done that you think something's done that you think that could
1:12:30
have been done better, or something isn't done at all and you're wondering,
1:12:33
why the hell did they not do this? You know, so you know,
1:12:39
and then it's fun, you know, to kind of say, does
1:12:42
anybody really care about the FDW belt And here sleazy say, hell yeah,
1:12:47
everybody does, you know, at least I do you know kind of thing.
1:12:50
You know, it's you know, the entrances, the flamboyancy, the
1:12:56
entertainment, it's all there. Just enjoy it. I'm so serious, gosh,
1:13:04
I mean, look, Jim Cornett plays a character, Eric Bischoff.
1:13:12
I don't he is a character, but I think he's just out there.
1:13:16
I'm playing a character. We're all playing a character kind of. It's weird,
1:13:21
you know, because when you talk to to somebody on the on our
1:13:28
subreddit, it's not the same way you would talk to somebody if he was
1:13:30
talking face to face with them, and that's the way you should talk.
1:13:34
Yeah, no, need to try and take it seriously like certain people.
1:13:43
Did you just say something about an alcoholic? I don't know. I don't
1:13:45
know what he's saying. That's like, yeah, my ears are bleeding and
1:13:49
I have no idea what he said. Yeah, I think he said something
1:13:58
about cult of alcoholics. Ah, I don't know. Whatever. I cannot
1:14:05
wait for Dynamite tomorrow night just to see how they address this. It's gonna
1:14:11
be a join us on our live chat tomorrow night on the aw fatum subreddit
1:14:16
chat rooms. It's gonna be a blast, I think. And maybe we'll
1:14:21
actually get some matches announced for a rampage. Who knows, maybe they announce
1:14:28
of them already during the podcast. We'll see. But anyway, this is
1:14:32
Kelson. Good night, everybody. Night, y'all,