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- 0:02Speaker 1: Fifty five KRC, the talk station, Dan Carolyn for Brian Thomas.
- 0:06Speaker 1: Want to thank brother Andre Ewing for being here in studio.
- 0:09Speaker 1: First time I had a chance to meet him, so
- 0:11Speaker 1: that was a great conversation and also looking forward to
- 0:14Speaker 1: speaking with our next guest. Tom Zewatowski runs the website
- 0:18Speaker 1: We the People Convention dot org and Tom, it's great
- 0:21Speaker 1: to have you on fifty five KRC this morning. How
- 0:23Speaker 1: are you.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Good morning, Dan, Glad to be with you, Thanks for
- 0:27Speaker 2: having me on.
- 0:28Speaker 1: Thank you for being here. You know, I told this
- 0:31Speaker 1: story last week on one of my shows on seven hundred,
- 0:34Speaker 1: and I was saying that in the news business here locally,
- 0:38Speaker 1: we used to say that every national story has a
- 0:41Speaker 1: way of touching Cincinnati, and so I see this story
- 0:49Speaker 1: about Jim O'Neil, Deputy Secretary and the Apartment of Human
- 0:52Speaker 1: Services came out and he talked about Abukar Osman, who
- 0:58Speaker 1: was Somalia's permanent repersent to the United States, to the
- 1:01Speaker 1: United Nations and the UN Security Council, and records show
- 1:06Speaker 1: that he has ties to Ohio and a Cincinnati company
- 1:09Speaker 1: that had to pay ninety thousand dollars in restitution for
- 1:12Speaker 1: medicaid fraud. So it is absolutely amazing, and I think,
- 1:17Speaker 1: you know, there are calls now by some state lawmakers
- 1:21Speaker 1: who are talking about investigating some of the daycares and
- 1:27Speaker 1: other fraudulent situations that may have appeared in and around
- 1:32Speaker 1: the Columbus area. So when we look at this story
- 1:35Speaker 1: about what's going on in Minnesota, I think a lot
- 1:38Speaker 1: of us need to be aware that it's not just
- 1:40Speaker 1: happening in Minnesota, but really it sort of has its
- 1:44Speaker 1: fingers and tentacles touching a lot of us right here
- 1:47Speaker 1: in Ohio.
- 1:49Speaker 2: Well, you know, people just forget how long this has
- 1:52Speaker 2: been going on. The Somali problem in Ohio. Dan, you know,
- 1:56Speaker 2: we were the Tea Party movement was screaming about this
- 1:59Speaker 2: when they first arrived, you know, fifteen years ago or
- 2:02Speaker 2: whatever it was. Because you know, what's amazing about this
- 2:05Speaker 2: story is that it's like Springfield with the Haitians, right,
- 2:09Speaker 2: you know, where over night these people just show up
- 2:13Speaker 2: in your community with no plan. Right. It's not like, hey,
- 2:16Speaker 2: We're going to bring ten thousand people to your town,
- 2:19Speaker 2: and here's federal money for housing and for food and
- 2:22Speaker 2: for medical and to help with interpreters at your schools.
- 2:26Speaker 2: Oh no, no, you know, Catholic charities just brings them
- 2:28Speaker 2: in because they get billions of dollars to help, you know,
- 2:32Speaker 2: break our immigration laws, and they just bring them in
- 2:35Speaker 2: and drop them off. Well, when they did that outside
- 2:37Speaker 2: of Columbus, the sheriff was going Bizerko because they were
- 2:41Speaker 2: having the same problem they had in Springfield. There were
- 2:43Speaker 2: car accidents because they were driving. They didn't know how
- 2:46Speaker 2: to drive our cars, they didn't know our rules, they
- 2:48Speaker 2: couldn't speak English. The schools were a disaster because they
- 2:52Speaker 2: were just inundated with all these children that didn't speak English,
- 2:56Speaker 2: and nobody would do anything about it. We brought it
- 2:59Speaker 2: to the attention of Chask, you know. And then and
- 3:02Speaker 2: then the wine, and look what the wine did with Springfield.
- 3:06Speaker 2: He just kind of like said, there's plenty to see here, Dan,
- 3:10Speaker 2: there's plenty to see and it ain't good.
- 3:12Speaker 1: Well, why do you think that is? Why do you
- 3:14Speaker 1: think there's at least on the part of the governor
- 3:17Speaker 1: that there's really no appetite to investigate this or get
- 3:21Speaker 1: to the bottom of it, or even try and separate
- 3:24Speaker 1: in a meaningful way what is true and what is
- 3:27Speaker 1: not true. It is it is amazing to me, Look,
- 3:30Speaker 1: fraud is fraud. Ripping off the government or ripping off
- 3:34Speaker 1: anyone is ripping people off. It doesn't matter where you
- 3:38Speaker 1: come from. It doesn't matter what your heritage is. If
- 3:41Speaker 1: you're an American, I don't want you to do it.
- 3:43Speaker 1: If you're an immigrant, I don't want you to do it.
- 3:45Speaker 1: If you're an illegal alien, I don't want you to
- 3:47Speaker 1: do it. But yet there's no appetite on the part
- 3:51Speaker 1: of the governor and his staff, I guess to really
- 3:54Speaker 1: get to the bottom of this. So now there's a
- 3:56Speaker 1: growing body of lawmakers in Columbus who want this looked into.
- 4:01Speaker 1: But as you said, I mean, you know this, this
- 4:03Speaker 1: horse has been out of the barn for a long
- 4:04Speaker 1: time already.
- 4:06Speaker 2: Well, so you know what do we as people do
- 4:09Speaker 2: you know, as citizens? Because I just think that you
- 4:12Speaker 2: know again, and you were right, as Listen says to
- 4:15Speaker 2: you earlier in the podcast show here where you know,
- 4:18Speaker 2: this whole the riots and the anti ICE stuff is
- 4:21Speaker 2: a distraction from the real issue, which is the fraud.
- 4:25Speaker 2: What's interesting is that you know, for for all of us,
- 4:28Speaker 2: you know, what's going on up there with Ice doesn't
- 4:30Speaker 2: really affect I don't have ICE agents knocking down the
- 4:33Speaker 2: doors of my neighbor's house. I don't have Somalis in
- 4:36Speaker 2: my town, but we all have our tax dollars there.
- 4:40Speaker 2: And in the outrage among the American people about this stuff,
- 4:45Speaker 2: I just don't think the political class really understands how
- 4:49Speaker 2: deep and how serious it is. We are pissed, people
- 4:53Speaker 2: are angry because this isn't just Somalis. It's just not
- 4:57Speaker 2: in you know, Minneapolis, It's here in Ohio, it's in Maine,
- 5:00Speaker 2: it's in Washington State. Boy or boy, wait till we
- 5:03Speaker 2: get into Los Angeles and New York. If you want
- 5:05Speaker 2: to see what fraud is. Our problem is what are
- 5:09Speaker 2: our senators and congressmen doing to stop it? And my
- 5:14Speaker 2: position is.
- 5:15Speaker 1: Not nearly enough, not nearly enough, absolutely, So I want
- 5:20Speaker 1: to continue on with this topic, and I want to
- 5:23Speaker 1: sort of pivot into how this is going to relate
- 5:27Speaker 1: to evak Ramaswami and what he's saying about these issues.
- 5:30Speaker 1: But we got to get to a quick break right now.
- 5:32Speaker 1: Tom's Awatowski stay right there. Will continue on on fifty
- 5:35Speaker 1: five KRC the Talk Station. This is doctor Jesse Mils,
- 5:39Speaker 1: host of the Mailroom podcast.
- 5:40Speaker 2: KARC the Talk.
- 5:41Speaker 1: Station fifty five KRC the talk station seven on this
- 5:52Speaker 1: Tuesday morning, continuing our conversation with Tom Zawatowski. We the
- 5:57Speaker 1: People Convention dot org and uh, Tom, So we've got
- 6:02Speaker 1: big governor's race coming up in in the in the fall.
- 6:07Speaker 1: And I was talking to Alex Trianthefilou yesterday and he
- 6:11Speaker 1: was talking about the campaign that the Viake Ramaswami is running.
- 6:15Speaker 1: So far, so good, it looks like. But I'm also
- 6:19Speaker 1: a little bit concerned that uh that I guess the
- 6:24Speaker 1: message that he's got uh could get could get watered
- 6:28Speaker 1: down or overrun. And somehow I hope this doesn't happen,
- 6:33Speaker 1: that Amy Acton could jump up and surprise a lot
- 6:37Speaker 1: of people, uh come this fall. How how you're sizing
- 6:40Speaker 1: up that race so far?
- 6:42Speaker 2: Well, you know, I I'm I'm very confident, uh, you know,
- 6:46Speaker 2: with you know what's going on as far as you
- 6:48Speaker 2: know our election here in Ohio. I think, Dan, the
- 6:51Speaker 2: biggest problem for us is to get our voters to
- 6:54Speaker 2: turn out without Trump on the ballot. I think that's
- 6:57Speaker 2: really the issue. And uh, you know, the Bank was
- 7:00Speaker 2: on last night on Jesse Waters Show addressing you know,
- 7:04Speaker 2: the situation Minneapolis and and boy, you know, he's just
- 7:08Speaker 2: so articulate, and he's so really just clear on his positions.
- 7:13Speaker 2: You know, people, you know, people ask me, like, you know,
- 7:16Speaker 2: we're the tea party I you represent you know, the
- 7:18Speaker 2: grassroots people here in Ohio have for sixteen years, and
- 7:22Speaker 2: they say, well, what do we want most? We want
- 7:24Speaker 2: to restore equal justice under the law. We want to
- 7:28Speaker 2: restore the rule of law. And but they talked about
- 7:31Speaker 2: that when he said that, you know, we're not going
- 7:33Speaker 2: to let Ohio become Minneapo Minnesota. We're going to, you know,
- 7:37Speaker 2: work with the federal government. We're going to enforce federal law,
- 7:40Speaker 2: even though you know the state doesn't enforce it. They
- 7:42Speaker 2: do work with ICE and the FBI and the DJ
- 7:45Speaker 2: and HHS and all those guys. And it was good
- 7:48Speaker 2: to see him say that. But it was great you
- 7:50Speaker 2: had Alex on. I love Alex you know, he's a
- 7:53Speaker 2: really good leader of the Republican Party. But if you
- 7:56Speaker 2: don't mind, I want to talk a little bit about
- 7:59Speaker 2: some skull drudgery that's going on with the Republicans in
- 8:02Speaker 2: Ohio that everyone in the state should understand. I always
- 8:06Speaker 2: say that the Columbus Cartel is just as bad as
- 8:10Speaker 2: the deep state in Washington. And here's a perfect example
- 8:14Speaker 2: and involved Cincinnati, and it involves the whole state. You
- 8:17Speaker 2: know that we wanted to redistrict because Ohio had the
- 8:21Speaker 2: potential to pick up three seats. We could have made
- 8:24Speaker 2: Cincinnati more competitive than the first district. We could have
- 8:28Speaker 2: made Akron the thirteenth district, which was lost by only
- 8:32Speaker 2: two percent two years ago, we could have won that
- 8:35Speaker 2: House seat. And then the ninth district up in Toledo,
- 8:39Speaker 2: where seventy nine year old Marci Captor has been hanging
- 8:42Speaker 2: on forever. We were going to redistrict that. So what happened, Well,
- 8:46Speaker 2: instead of redistricting to win all three seats, they ended
- 8:50Speaker 2: up redistricting the Toledo district to be like a plus
- 8:53Speaker 2: ten district, like you could win it with a toaster. Okay,
- 8:57Speaker 2: And they didn't help the first and they didn't help
- 9:00Speaker 2: the thirteenth. And the whole reason for that, I was
- 9:03Speaker 2: told was that Rob McCauley, our Senate President, was going
- 9:07Speaker 2: to run in Toledo, and his Senate district was up there,
- 9:10Speaker 2: and he expanded the district to include him. Well, then,
- 9:14Speaker 2: as you guys know, Rob McCauley ended up running with
- 9:18Speaker 2: the bike as his lieutenant governor. And so we're like, Okay,
- 9:23Speaker 2: we're really mad because President Trump needs as many House
- 9:26Speaker 2: seas as we can get and they didn't do the
- 9:28Speaker 2: resisting right. Well, what happens in the in the ninth
- 9:31Speaker 2: district just this week, All of a sudden, this woman
- 9:36Speaker 2: shows up. Her name is Madison she Han, she aha
- 9:40Speaker 2: n She's twenty eight years old. She's never run for
- 9:45Speaker 2: any position ever. She was working at ice with Christy
- 9:49Speaker 2: Nome for the last ten months, and all of a
- 9:53Speaker 2: sudden she shows up to run for Congress in the
- 9:56Speaker 2: ninth district. And you're like, wait a minute. We got
- 9:59Speaker 2: a guy named Maren who only watched by two percentage
- 10:02Speaker 2: points last time, who's leading in the polls. Why do
- 10:04Speaker 2: we need this new person? And then man, she shows
- 10:09Speaker 2: up on Laura Trump's TV show on Saturday night, Sam
- 10:14Speaker 2: out of nowhere, down eight year old person shows up.
- 10:18Speaker 2: And what I want your listeners to understand is this
- 10:21Speaker 2: is the problem with politics, and it's all about the
- 10:26Speaker 2: power and money. There's a political operative in Ohio named
- 10:29Speaker 2: Bob Paducciic. He used to represent Rob Portman. He got
- 10:34Speaker 2: involved with with Trump and things, and this is all
- 10:37Speaker 2: about him getting a payday. This is all about We're
- 10:42Speaker 2: gonna bring in this unknown person with millions of dollars
- 10:46Speaker 2: and Bob Padujac's gonna run her campaign, and you know
- 10:49Speaker 2: what he's probably gonna get. Donald Trump endorsed this person,
- 10:53Speaker 2: and the Ohio voters are not gonna have a choice
- 10:56Speaker 2: for who they want in the in the ninth district.
- 10:59Speaker 2: And this is what's wrong with our whole system because
- 11:03Speaker 2: money picks our candidates, not the people. And that's happening
- 11:08Speaker 2: right here in Ohio. And it's just a tragedy. We
- 11:10Speaker 2: should have we should flip three seats here and now
- 11:14Speaker 2: we're going to be lucky if we put this one
- 11:15Speaker 2: with a twenty eight year old running well.
- 11:18Speaker 1: Paducchick's a brilliant guy, so I have no doubt that
- 11:21Speaker 1: he can pull off just about whatever it is he
- 11:24Speaker 1: wants to pull off.
- 11:25Speaker 2: But it's selfish, that's my point it.
- 11:31Speaker 1: I mean, this kind of stuff, this is not to
- 11:34Speaker 1: my way of thinking. This is not what conservatives or
- 11:38Speaker 1: Republicans ought to be about. You know, it ought to
- 11:42Speaker 1: be about doing the right thing. And when you're running
- 11:45Speaker 1: an operation, the way you're describing to me certainly doesn't
- 11:49Speaker 1: sound like it's the right thing.
- 11:51Speaker 2: Well, so and this is what So I want to
- 11:54Speaker 2: pivot back to the bake now because you know there's
- 11:56Speaker 2: people who are saying, oh, geezo, Rob McCauley's now is
- 11:59Speaker 2: Lieutenant governor of Thevek has been captured by the Columbus Cartel. Right.
- 12:03Speaker 2: I can assure you. I can assure you guys, that
- 12:07Speaker 2: is not the case. The Veke is a change agent
- 12:10Speaker 2: as much as Donald Trump was. The cartel is scared
- 12:14Speaker 2: to death of them. And that's why you're seeing these
- 12:16Speaker 2: hit pieces coming out where they're trying to promote amy acting.
- 12:20Speaker 2: And this is the John Kasic people, the you know,
- 12:24Speaker 2: the Lex Wexner people, you know, they're behind this. Doug
- 12:28Speaker 2: Price guy is the one behind all these hit pieces
- 12:31Speaker 2: about the Veke, you know, pulling up things like he
- 12:33Speaker 2: you know, he's part of a h an investigation in
- 12:36Speaker 2: Georgia for an illegal takeover some company and stuff. It's
- 12:41Speaker 2: gonna get crazy because the cartel, your listeners write this down.
- 12:46Speaker 2: Republicans in Ohio would always rather have a Democrat win
- 12:51Speaker 2: than a Republican. They can't control. They can't control Vevek
- 12:55Speaker 2: Ramaswami because like Trump, he doesn't need them. He can self,
- 13:00Speaker 2: and he's gonna do things they don't want. And that's
- 13:03Speaker 2: why you're sending these efforts to undermine him. It's not
- 13:06Speaker 2: gonna work that think it's gonna be our next governor,
- 13:11Speaker 2: real good changes in Ohio.
- 13:12Speaker 1: You can't, can't, John Kasik, Just go back to CNN
- 13:15Speaker 1: or MSNBC and and please le fuss alone in Ohio.
- 13:20Speaker 1: At least you know, at least money shows up on
- 13:22Speaker 1: one of those shows you got. You have the ability
- 13:24Speaker 1: to turn the sound down or turn it off. Tom,
- 13:27Speaker 1: stay right there. We gotta we gotta work. In a
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- 13:52Speaker 1: winning the national championship.
- 13:54Speaker 2: Great game.
- 13:54Speaker 1: Last night, I watched Bits and Pieces. I was trying
- 13:57Speaker 1: to fall asleep and watch a show. But wrapping things
- 14:01Speaker 1: up here with Tom Zawatowski, we the People Convention Dot
- 14:06Speaker 1: org and and Tom, let me be as we let
- 14:08Speaker 1: you go. Let me I want to get your thought
- 14:10Speaker 1: on this that there is a growing, some growing discontent
- 14:15Speaker 1: amongst Republicans, including myself, that we have not have made
- 14:21Speaker 1: any progress. Okay, we passed a big, beautiful bill. Okay,
- 14:24Speaker 1: that's all fine and dandy, no tax on tips, no
- 14:27Speaker 1: tax on overtime. But as it relates to voter fraud,
- 14:30Speaker 1: as it relates to doge cuts, as it relates to
- 14:34Speaker 1: certain individual individuals being prosecuted that we thought would be
- 14:38Speaker 1: prosecuted for their misdeeds, none of that has happened. And
- 14:42Speaker 1: so the longer that that languishes and those things don't
- 14:47Speaker 1: don't get done, to my way of thinking, that does
- 14:50Speaker 1: not accrue to the benefit of Donald Trump and does
- 14:53Speaker 1: not accrue to the benefit of Republicans who who are
- 14:57Speaker 1: currently in power in ind.
- 15:02Speaker 2: Yeah. Dan, there's a lot of there's a lot of concern.
- 15:06Speaker 2: I have to tell you that I spent yesterday all
- 15:09Speaker 2: day talking to leaders from around the country, around the state,
- 15:13Speaker 2: trying to keep them more positive because they're really they
- 15:17Speaker 2: don't understand why these things aren't happening. I mean, what
- 15:21Speaker 2: more do you need to invoke the Insurrection Act than
- 15:24Speaker 2: what's going on in Minneapolis from you know, breaking into
- 15:27Speaker 2: our ice vehicles and stealing weapons, you know, to the
- 15:31Speaker 2: emails that came out saying that the City of Minneapolis
- 15:34Speaker 2: employees were actually aiding and embedding the anti American, anti
- 15:39Speaker 2: Ice Marxists to track and hamper ICE agents. We're tired
- 15:44Speaker 2: of it. We want to see arrest, we want to
- 15:47Speaker 2: see this stop. We want the rule of law reestablished,
- 15:51Speaker 2: and we're not seeing it. And and you know, I
- 15:54Speaker 2: think that our patients is wearing thin. And then when
- 15:57Speaker 2: you get to the Congress, remember and Trump's first term,
- 16:02Speaker 2: the only thing they passed in four years was the
- 16:05Speaker 2: tax reform in twenty seventeen. Then Paul Ryan who's the
- 16:09Speaker 2: House Speaker, and mcconnoey and those guys that said it,
- 16:13Speaker 2: they sandbag Trump for the rest of his time. We
- 16:17Speaker 2: can't let that happen again. And so now they're talking
- 16:20Speaker 2: about another budget reconciliation type bill, and we're talking about
- 16:24Speaker 2: to say, back, right, Dan, I mean, wouldn't that be
- 16:27Speaker 2: a single important thing to get passed so that we
- 16:30Speaker 2: can stop the cheating this November? But we haven't seen anything.
- 16:34Speaker 2: And I'm asking your listeners, I'm asking people who are
- 16:37Speaker 2: you following this show, get on the phone this week,
- 16:41Speaker 2: call your center, call your House member, and say, don't
- 16:44Speaker 2: you do this again. We want action. You've got to
- 16:48Speaker 2: implement Trump's agenda in legislation. It can't just be executive orders.
- 16:53Speaker 2: We've lived that before. We never want to live that again.
- 16:57Speaker 1: Yeah, legislation, And I mean that's the thing you go out,
- 17:03Speaker 1: this is this is the agenda, not just Trump, but
- 17:06Speaker 1: the agenda that that he was talking about, that people
- 17:09Speaker 1: voted for. And if you're not going to pass the agenda,
- 17:12Speaker 1: people are going to say, well, why why do I
- 17:14Speaker 1: should I even bother to vote for? You guys, you're
- 17:17Speaker 1: gonna sit up there and do and literally do nothing.
- 17:20Speaker 1: I mean it's on one hand, it's easy to say, look,
- 17:22Speaker 1: Trump accomplished a lot this first year in office. Here
- 17:26Speaker 1: in the second term, but there's no need to stop
- 17:29Speaker 1: there because you know what, if the shoe was on
- 17:31Speaker 1: the other foot, do you think the Democrats will be taking,
- 17:34Speaker 1: you know, easing up on the gas a little bit?
- 17:38Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean again, what will they do? You know
- 17:41Speaker 2: what they're gonna do. They get there, absolutely right, Let's
- 17:48Speaker 2: get rid of the fellow buster, let's start passing this stuff,
- 17:51Speaker 2: and let's walk down the border forever. Let's you know,
- 17:54Speaker 2: get rid of you know, the illegal immigration. Let's uh,
- 17:58Speaker 2: you know, let's get this the process fixed because we
- 18:02Speaker 2: know they're cheating. And then how about cutting some of
- 18:05Speaker 2: the budgets because it's a bunch of it is fraud.
- 18:09Speaker 2: How about that.
- 18:12Speaker 1: Six hundred billion in fraud every single year, and it's
- 18:15Speaker 1: time to start playing some hardball on that on the
- 18:18Speaker 1: national level and here in Ohio, Tom, great talking to
- 18:21Speaker 1: you this morning. We got a run, but keep up
- 18:23Speaker 1: the great work and all the best to you, and
- 18:26Speaker 1: I'll look forward to the next time we get a
- 18:27Speaker 1: chance to talking again.
- 18:29Speaker 2: Thanks Dan, thanks for setting in our friend Brian.
- 18:31Speaker 1: I hope it gets better, absolutely absolutely, Tom, thank you
- 18:34Speaker 1: very much for that.