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Kentucky Derby 152 Preview, Horse Draft & Picks to Win · Height Differential

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  Give it to me. Y'all ready?
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  We back. This is the height differential.
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  I'm the 410 Nick. We got the 66 Neil, and we also
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  have the. 56 Matt. 56 Matt. He's right in the middle.
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  We got our residential horse racing expert for our Derby
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  episode. Hey, I figure if we put three of
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  us all together, maybe we can get something right.
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  Well, it didn't work out very well for us 3 yesterday at the
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  five O Tuesday because we were texting back and forth.
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  We're like, all right, I'm on the 6th, I'm on the 10 and the
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  6th the 10, and whatever other numbers we decided to come up
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  with are still running. Yeah, my my confidence right now
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  at the track is maybe at all time low along with my putting.
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  We're we're we're just in shambles right now.
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  But yeah, you're right. We are all three at 5 O Tuesday
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  yesterday I hit one race. Matt, you said you hit 32
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  yesterday. 3 was today, one was yesterday.
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  And do you remember what you had yesterday, Neil 22 and then
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  we're playing them all day again today.
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  I had another was another one for I told Matt I'm losing $50 a
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  day. This is, this is, this ain't,
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  this ain't sustainable at this point, but.
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  Yeah, today was better. But again, we're talking four to
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  five, six to five, maybe a 2 to 1.
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  You know, it's we're really, really bankrolling here during
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  the week. We got the bet backs, but
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  they're not even working for me half the time.
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  So but we'll, we'll go through the whole Derby field.
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  We'll do a little Derby draft. Matt is a Patriots fan.
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  We'll we'll get in a little Mike Vrabel before we get him out of
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  here. And then we'll Neil and I will
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  talk a little Bengals draft. We'll some other crazy stories
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  going on in in the world of sports and not in the world of
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  It's hard to believe that it's what tomorrow tomorrow or it's
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  almost May and the Derby is already on Saturday.
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  It's just, it's kind of crazy. It's.
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  Usually how the calendar works nick when it's almost main.
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  It doesn't seem like it should already be dirty day.
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  Usually how this works every year.
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  I'll give him credit. It's not going to be Derby like
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  temperatures this weekend. It's going to be chilly.
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  It's going to be chilly. In the 50s.
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  Six. Yeah, No.
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  Did you get down in the 50s? I think at, I think the high all
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  right, 62, you got 62 for Oaks Day and then your high for Derby
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  Day is 60 on the nose. If there's if there's a little
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  sunshine peeking through, I think fans will be all right.
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  Well, it wasn't very warm yesterday, but our high like the
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  temperature wasn't very, very high yesterday, but it got warm
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  in the sun. It did get warm.
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  It got. Warm.
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  So all right, we're going to go through the field.
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  We'll go one through, well now through 21 as we did get a a
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  scratch today and the great white gets in.
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  But I guess we'll just start with who was the favorite and
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  then drew the rail. What's y'all's opinions on
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  Renegade? Trained by Todd Pletcher, ridden
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  by Irad. He was off at 4:00 to 1:00.
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  He's now he's 5 to 1. He's now 5.
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  To one this afternoon, yeah. I've got him up.
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  He's currently the favorite at 5:00 to 1:00.
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  Yeah, tough, tough break being the favorite coming from the
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  from the rail. You know when you know the the
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  dreaded first post position that hasn't produced the winner since
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  1986. I mean, is it a big deal?
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  Yes. Can they overcome it?
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  Absolutely. They've got one of the best
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  jockeys in the game and I read Ortiz and two time Derby winning
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  trainer Todd Pletcher. So if anybody's going to be able
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  to overcome being in the rail, it's going to be those two guys.
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  It's funny that Neil actually brings up Irad because Irad is
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  one of my negatives with Renegade.
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  Did you know Irad has never finished in the money in his
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  nine Derby starts? Which is wild because.
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  He is one of the best, one of the best jockeys in the game,
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  but he is never finished in the money at the Kentucky Derby.
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  If you could. Say crazy that that is crazy.
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  So, but I think Renegade's probably the most talented horse
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  if you put them all up against each other's, probably the most
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  talented horse and is running style as a closer helps being at
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  post one. It's just how far can he get
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  around? Is he going to be too far back?
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  How far is the pace? But Irad is not necessarily a
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  good thing and might be some Twitter trolls but there are
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  some people talking about that Renegade might be a little hurt
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  or hind leg injury potentially. Yeah, I mean, you just never
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  know what that stuff, but I mean somebody else is probably going
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  to scratch out of this race before Saturday and they talk
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  about the Puma potentially having an injury too.
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  We'll get we'll get into him a little bit later.
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  What Another thing with Irad I think which is a positive for
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  Renegade is he chose Renegade over Commandment, over further
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  ADO and over full effort. You sure did.
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  So I mean, when you got the top jockey picking this horse over 4
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  really horses I think could be contenders, I think that's a,
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  that's a pretty big positive. We, we talked about the rail,
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  the rails now different now that they've changed the gate after
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  COVID. They're not as smashed up
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  against it as they used to be. And, and then Matt, you
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  mentioned it. I, I think his running style
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  doesn't, it's going to be not as disadvantageous as it could be
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  for other people or other horses because he doesn't want to get
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  out front. So he's going to be chilling
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  there in the back trying to make a run late.
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  And our ads decision will be, do I want to try to stay on the
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  rail and, and make the run or do I go really wide and, and try to
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  make the run that way. So we, we said we're going to do
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  win contender, super try contender or no chance toss.
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  Where are you all on? Run again.
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  Put him in that win contender category.
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  I think it's obviously he's a favorite for a reason, so put
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  him in that win contender. I would concur, he is my final
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  horse in my win contender bracket.
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  The here's I, like we said that the rail doesn't matter as much,
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  but I still think it's a negative and he's probably going
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  to be the favorite or he's going to be close.
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  So, and I don't necessarily love closers in the Derby.
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  I I think things got to go. Everything's got to go right for
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  it to work. I am not putting him in no
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  chance toss, but I've got Renegade more in my second tier
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  for super for try supers. Then we get to the horse in the
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  2 hole. Albus trained by Riley Mott in
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  his first Derby. Manny Franco's aboard.
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  You're all starts on Albus. Dummies coming off the wood
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  memorial. He came from 8th to win the
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  Wood, but his final time wasn't exactly impressive.
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  He was pretty slow in that race. One one minute, 51 seconds.
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  I think he said it's Riley Mott's first Derby as a trainer
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  and well, Franco's O and six in the Derby.
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  I mean, the the jockey Jaime Torres that that rode him in the
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  wood isn't even going to ride him.
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  I mean, he's riding incredible new jockey, inexperienced
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  trainer, slower whore. I mean, he did what he won.
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  He said he won the wood, but not very impressive.
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  I'm throwing him out. Yeah, I'm also throwing him out
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  or in whatever our farthest category is.
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  The the only thing you need to take from the Wood Memorial was
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  that the Philly, whatever their Phillies races, their Oaks
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  equivalent, the final time in the Oaks race was faster than
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  the Wood Memorial. So the girls ran faster than the
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  boys in that one. So I don't know that's going to
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  help our boy Albus here. And the first Saturday in May.
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  Well, and I think his speed figures are he's as slow as
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  anybody in this race. And since 2004, there have been
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  58 horses that are running the Derby that have had at least one
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  prep race in New York. And of those 58, only one has
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  finished in the top three. What's the one?
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  Revolutionary 2013. Yeah, this is a pure no chance
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  toss on Albus. Sorry for all you Albus
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  supporters in the three hole. Intrepedo trained by Jeff
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  Mullins, ridden by Hector Barrios.
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  What y'all got? This was an interesting one.
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  He's kind of inconsistent, like he's posted some fast times.
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  I mean, he finished fourth in Santa Anita.
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  He's he's posted 4 solid speed figures.
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  In April, he had the fastest 5 furlong workout at Churchill
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  since any Derby contender since 2012.
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  So he's got some speed there. He's got potential, but he just
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  hasn't had the results that come with winning.
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  Yeah, I think Intrepido is going to factor more into how fast
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  this race starts rather than how it's actually going to finish if
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  it gets up. I mean, because him and litmus
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  tests are right next to each other, they're both going to go.
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  And I think if they really both get going, I think it's going to
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  make more of a bigger impact on how quickly the speed falls
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  apart or if it doesn't get out to a fast pace.
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  But I don't think it's got enough to make it all the way
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  around to factor into any of the, you know, super factors,
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  etcetera. I think distance is a major
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  concern for this horse also as well.
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  So even if he gets out top, I I don't see how he can hang in for
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  that for that mile and 1/4. And I have Intrepedo as a no
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  chance. Bob Baffert in the Derby with
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  Litmus Test in the four hole ridden by Martin Garcia.
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  Matt, we'll let you start on this one.
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  As you're going to find out, I'm kind of down on California
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  racing this year now. Now litmus litmus test of the
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  Super fast early speed figure guys, he's probably the one that
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  I think has the best chance at potentially making it into your
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  trifecta super effect as if he can hold the pace, he's going to
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  be, if not first in the top two or three for majority of this
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  race. I just don't know if he's got
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  the stamina to hold on to it the whole time.
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  And they're, you know, adding blinkers, which again, can be a
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  pro, could be a con, you know, depends on how you shake it.
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  But I would say litmus test of the California ones is probably
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  the semi highest one I'm on. But still, I don't think it's
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  going to affect the exact or superfecta do.
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  You. I hadn't heard that they're
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  adding blinkers. According to Twin Spires, it
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  says may improve with blinkers added today.
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  So this might have been a Today News dump as of Wednesday at
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  whatever time we're recording this.
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  Normally I would say equipment changes leading up to into the
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  Derby, not. A good sign, Not a good sign.
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  Yeah, I'm throwing him in the no chance category.
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  I mean, he finished seventh in the Arkansas Derby.
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  He's lost five of his last six since winning his debut.
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  Just we're talking equipment changes three days before the
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  Derby get him out. I mean, only only positive he is
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  he is he is the offspring of Kentucky Derby winner Nyquist.
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  So he does have a decent pedigree, but no, this this
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  horse has no chance. He's out.
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  I mean, and he's coming off the Los Alamitos Futurity, so it's
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  not like he's coming off one of the bigger races.
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  You talked about California since Bafferts was disqualified.
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  Since that race, only one California horses hit the board
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  on Derby Day and that was journalism last year.
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  He he could get out front, but I I just don't see him being a
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  factor at the end, just like you guys.
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  I went I went no chance with litmus test into the five O at
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  right to party. Kenny Mcpeak back in the Derby,
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  Chris Elliott aboard came finished second to Albus in the
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  wood. What y'all got?
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  I mean, I didn't like Albus because of how it finished in
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  this wood, and it finished farther behind Albus in the
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  wood. So everything that I said about
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  the wood translates to this horse as well.
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  I'm throwing it out. Yeah, I love, I love Kenny
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  Mcpeak as a trainer, but this horse is his duty.
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  Like he's he. I mean, we talked about how bad
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  the wood was and like you said, he came in second in the wood to
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  Albus. He's never raced anywhere
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  outside of Aqueduct. He's also a closing horse, which
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  we talked about. You know, it's not.
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  They don't really ever win the Derby very often.
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  Like you said, has to be a perfect thing and this course
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  has no chance. He's out.
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  No speed. Figures are not good is never
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  want to stake race. One of the cool things is that
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  Chris Elliott, 19 year old first time Derby jockey pretty cool,
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  but I don't I don't think they'll be celebrating it
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  afterwards. They're not going to be put the
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  roses on look and look Kenny Mcpink is he's proven that he
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  can do it with longer shots. Did it with Mystic Dan a couple
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  years ago. This horse does not have the
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  talent that that Mystic danded. We get to the six O Commandment
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  training. One of Brad Cox's three horses
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  ridden by Luis Saez. He has won four of his five
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  starts. Neil, your thoughts on
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  Commandment? Yeah, and when I looked earlier,
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  he was the Co fourth choice. It's 7 to 1, so decent odds
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  coming off the win at the Florida Derby 1.
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  Issue is Luis Saez has never ridden him first first mount as
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  the jockey on that horse. Flavian Pratt rode them in the
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  Florida Derby and we talked about I read Ortiz who'd been on
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  them before is on a different horse season renegade and
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  Pratt's riding emerging market. So new jockey sizes O in 12 in
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  the Derby. Brad Cox one in 12 is the
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  trainer the Derby is only win with with mandolin.
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  I like him. I put him in my win contenders
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  category because he is coming off that like I said that
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  Florida Derby which the big prep race and and beating other
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  contenders like the Puma and Chief Wallaby.
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  So he's beating quality competition in these prep races.
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  So there's no reason to doubt him.
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  I'll put him in that win contender category.
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  I would agree. I think of the big, if you want
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  to call it the big three of your your favorites or Co favorites,
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  commandment has done exactly what you've asked it of this
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  year, three of three this year and has competed in the Florida
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  prep races, which I would argue is probably the toughest of all
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  the prep races that we've had. So it's beat, he's beaten Chief
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  Wallaby, he's beaten the Puma. So I mean, if you're talking
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  about I think commandment of your higher end forces has the
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  lowest floor. I think he's been very
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  consistent in each all of his works.
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  So you have a good idea of what you're going to get with him.
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  The only negative in my opinion is what you brought up.
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  Irad chose to not mount him. He ran.
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  He was he was a jockey before, chose not to go with him.
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  I don't know if there's anything reading between the lines there,
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  but. Did they give, did they give
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  Flavy and Pratt the option to ride him and did he turn it down
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  too? Yeah, Yeah.
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  That's interesting. That's interesting.
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  Yeah, so that would be my only negative is two of the best
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  jockeys in the world decided they actively chose not to ride
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  him after they've won on him in stakes races.
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  So. And look, Irad and Flavian both
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  ride for Brad Cox quite a bit, all right.
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  And then Flavian picks emerging market who's he's riding for
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  Chad Brown. I, I think that is a negative,
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  but there's a lot of positives here too.
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  You you talked about winning the Florida Derby.
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  Florida Derby has produced 7 in the last 20 winners, 20 Derby
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  winners. He mirrored Sovereignty's exact
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  path from from last year. It's just Luis Saez is not a had
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  a ton of success in the Derby. 4th is is his best ever finish.
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  But I, I, I just the consistency of this horse makes me put him
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  in in my wing contenders category and he's, he's
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  competing for, for my top pick, Dannon Berman.
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  The the Japanese horse was actually Dannon Berman.
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  Bourbon. OK, Yeah.
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  I don't think you said bourbon. I don't know what.
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  Word. I think it was AI think it was a
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  burning. Yeah, no word came out of your
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  mouth, but. It was looking at the trainer
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  and the jockey, like already seeing if I'm going to pronounce
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  those correctly or yeah. Don't even try though.
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  I wouldn't even say I can screwed up my.
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  Leave those alone. You can find the jockey name and
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  the trainer name on twinspires.com, right?
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  I do not have a pronunciation guide here so we're going to
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  leave that alone. Japanese horse but Kentucky bred
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  with Churchill bloodlines. Could this be the first Japanese
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  horse to win to win the Derby? I mean, he's undefeated, He's
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  undefeated his life. He's 3 for three and he's won
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  all three of his races by over combined over 1818 lengths.
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  I did read it. Interesting.
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  He's never run on a left left-handed track.
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  He's been running right his whole life.
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  So he might get confused when the gates open on Saturday, but
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  hopefully he runs the right direction.
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  But I kind of like the source. I don't I he's not quite in my
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  wing contenders category, but I've got him in the second tier
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  in my try super picks. I think this horse is quality.
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  I think he's very quality. You know, there's Japanese
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  horses, if not knowing they're O for 20 and like the last $20
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  since 2000 or O for, I mean, they're over, over a lot over 20
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  I think. We keep getting closer though.
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  They are getting closer. They are.
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  There was a who who was the last year that came in the top top 4
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  wasn't it? Was it a Luxor cafe?
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  No. Forever young.
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  Forever young. Forever young.
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  So they are getting closer. I don't think this is the horse
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  that's going to breakthrough, but I've I've got him in in in
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  some super and try picks. Yeah, I Forever young is
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  probably my benchmark of how close can a Japanese horse get.
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  And I don't think Forever Young and I don't think Denon Bourbon
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  is up to Forever Young's category.
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  And my biggest thing is obviously we can't read into too
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  much of the Japanese races, but of his three races, he gets the
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  perfect trip every time. Doesn't get challenged, doesn't
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  get E just goes, which means he could be a really good horse or
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  he just hasn't been challenged. And when you're going up against
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  160,000 fans and 19 other horses, probably not a good time
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  to be pressed for the first time.
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  So I'm I'm out on Denon Bourbon. Yeah, and you're right.
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  Like we just don't know that much about his competition and
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  like they don't have speed figures for him.
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  Like they they try to put them together like the equivalent of
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  what would they would be? But how true to form are those
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  numbers? Like we had so much hype with
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  Forever Young last year. I just don't feel like we had
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  that same hype with with Denon Bourbon.
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  Him going left for the first time I think is a huge issue.
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  I think being in a gate with 19 other horses is a huge issue.
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  His Max, he's from Maxfield. He wasn't really a distance
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  runner, only ran a mile and a quarter once and finished third
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  as a short price favorite in that race.
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  So I don't know if he can go the distance at, I mean, he's going
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  to be less than 2120 to 1, I think.
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  And at that point, I, I'm, this is he's a toss for me.
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  I mean, right now he's 14 to 1. And I know that they said that
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  don't look into the market too much until you hit Friday, but
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  the fact that it's getting that down to 14 to one right now is a
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  little concerning. And at that number I really
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  don't want anything to do with it.
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  If he gets out front, he's a front runner.
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  If he can get out front and get in front of these horses and
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  just run, I think he's got a chance.
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  But if he gets out front, is he going to go the wrong way?
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  I. Think he's been training?
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  I think he's trained enough to go left in the last couple of
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  weeks, but maybe he's got to figure it out by now.
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  But if you can get out front, I think he can he can potentially
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  pull an upset. So we get so happy.
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  Trained by Mark Glad, ridden by the almost 60 year old Mike
• 20:39
  Smith. Mike, Glad this is his first
• 20:43
  ever Derby as a trainer, just lost his wife really recently,
• 20:50
  so there's going to be a lot of people betting on him because of
• 20:53
  that story, because pulling on the heartstrings.
• 20:56
  Just just a really tragic story. Y'all's thoughts on So Happy?
• 21:03
  Go ahead, Neil. I mean he's as of this
• 21:07
  afternoon, he was the Co fourth choice of seven to one, same
• 21:09
  odds as commandment. I don't think he's nearly quite
• 21:12
  as good as Commandment. What did he do?
• 21:14
  He won the Santa Anita Derby as an upset pick at 7 to 1.
• 21:18
  Like you mentioned, it's Mike Smith on On the mount who's 2
• 21:22
  for 28 and Derby. He does have wins with Giacomo
• 21:24
  and Justify, so he's a season jockey, which is a plus.
• 21:28
  Fertile. You said first Derby for Mike
• 21:29
  Glatt or Mark Glatt? I don't know.
• 21:32
  I'm not. I'm not sold on this horse.
• 21:35
  I've got him in my toss category even at 7:00 to 1:00.
• 21:38
  I just don't think he's the quality of some of these others.
• 21:41
  I think that 7 to 1 makes you put him in the toss category.
• 21:45
  Yeah, I, I, I feel for Mark for what he has, what he went
• 21:49
  through, but I'm happy that he finally has his Derby horse.
• 21:53
  I am also out on on the horse, and it's the one that I'm
• 21:57
  completely avoiding. So if you're asked me what's the
• 22:01
  one horse that can screw up everything that I'm planning on
• 22:03
  Saturday, it's so happy. So I hope Mark Glad has a
• 22:06
  wonderful time. I just hope so Happy goes
• 22:08
  nowhere near the top 4. I would have proved that.
• 22:13
  But I, I do look at this horse, he's won three or four.
• 22:16
  His speed figures are not that bad.
• 22:19
  He he has 200 bresnets, which I mean, I, it shows that you can
• 22:25
  be consistently fast. My concern with him is if he's 7
• 22:29
  to 1 I just think they'll nut numbers way too high.
• 22:34
  Way too. High and he's he's a run happy.
• 22:37
  So which was a he was a pure sprinter.
• 22:39
  So you also question if he can get the mile on the quarter and
• 22:44
  you know, at 15 to one, at 20 to 1, I may be considering him as a
• 22:48
  win try or like a show try candidate.
• 22:52
  But if he's already being bent down 7 to 1 and he's going to
• 22:55
  continually be bet because of the story behind this horse.
• 23:00
  I think if, if you, if he's a 7 to 1, I I think I've got a toss
• 23:04
  and if he beats me, he beats me. Right, if looking at it right
• 23:07
  now he is 6 to one in commandment 7 to 1.
• 23:11
  I guarantee you if you if you ask 10 people commandment or so
• 23:16
  happy, everyone's going to say commandment. 1000 times.
• 23:20
  And I would like give me that. Yeah, keep, keep betting.
• 23:25
  So happy folks. You put your money in.
• 23:28
  Do what you need to do. Keep doing that.
• 23:29
  We appreciate you. We move on to the Puma, trained
• 23:34
  by Gustavo Delgado, ridden by Javier Castellano.
• 23:41
  Neil, your thoughts on the Puma? I love the Puma.
• 23:45
  I'm putting him in in my win contenders category this
• 23:49
  afternoon. He was Co second choice at six
• 23:51
  to one with Javier Castellano, season jockey on him who with
• 23:58
  the trainer Gustavo Delgado. They were they were like the
• 24:00
  combo that won on mage. So those two are back together
• 24:03
  to try to win another Derby. He finished see second in the
• 24:07
  Florida Derby by a nose to commandment and we just talked
• 24:11
  about being one of the best horses in the field. 11 problem.
• 24:15
  It's his fifth race in the last four months.
• 24:16
  So he's been he's been run a lot.
• 24:18
  So I don't know if that's going to wear on him or not in a
• 24:22
  horse, in a horse race like this with with the Derby and all that
• 24:24
  it takes, but big on the Puma. I think he's a great horse.
• 24:29
  I'm putting him in my win contenders category.
• 24:31
  I have the Puma in my underlays. I have him in the next year
• 24:36
  over. I mean, if you look at his
• 24:38
  stats, he's four starts. He's spending the money every
• 24:41
  single time. Only one win, but again,
• 24:43
  impressive. Tampa Bay Downs.
• 24:46
  I just think that with him, he's done really well.
• 24:53
  It's a lot of talk. It's you're going to hear us a
• 24:55
  lot. I've been telling you guys this,
• 24:57
  There's a wise guy horse in this field.
• 24:59
  There might be two. It's the Puma or Chief Wallaby.
• 25:02
  It could be both of them. I feel like when betting opened
• 25:06
  yesterday and the Puma went to the immediate favorite, I think
• 25:08
  that shows you a lot of people are talking about him.
• 25:10
  A lot of people put money on him, which could be a good
• 25:12
  thing, could be a bad thing. I'm choosing to take it the
• 25:15
  other way. I think it's still going to
• 25:17
  finish within the top four, top five, top 6 because it's been
• 25:20
  there until career, but I am having it in my second category.
• 25:25
  You know, 1 issue with me then I've tried as I've, you know,
• 25:30
  got more into betting is not attaching yourself to a horse
• 25:33
  that you bet previously, right, just because of that.
• 25:36
  And, and I bet the Puma in the Florida Derby and he just got
• 25:41
  snapped with the wire. I mean, he, he ran a really good
• 25:43
  race. So I'm trying to talk myself out
• 25:46
  of that, like just betting just because I've bet him previously.
• 25:50
  But two of the last three Derby winners have finished second in
• 25:54
  the Florida Derby and the last five Kentucky Derbies Derby
• 25:58
  winners did not win their final prep race.
• 26:01
  So if you're looking for somebody who didn't win, became
• 26:04
  maybe second or third, I think he's probably at the top of that
• 26:06
  list. Mage and Sovereignty both
• 26:11
  finished second in the in the Florida Derby before winning.
• 26:17
  I don't know. I I do like this horse and I
• 26:22
  think I've got to keep him as a wing contender and I'm just
• 26:26
  wondering if it's because I'm being loyal to him or do I
• 26:28
  really like him? If he is first in my second
• 26:32
  tier, he's like the top of my second tier category.
• 26:36
  There'll be some plays that I have where I have him in the
• 26:39
  win, but I am trending him to be in that place show category.
• 26:46
  And Neil talked about how he's raced, what, 4 times since
• 26:49
  January? He's one of the few horses that
• 26:52
  didn't race as a 2 year old. So still relatively new to
• 26:57
  racing because he didn't race as a 2 year old.
• 27:02
  We move on to I'm also not going to pronounce this trainer or
• 27:05
  this jockey. You'll find them under
• 27:08
  twistvirus.com I. Wonder they mean Matt, what do
• 27:14
  you have? Same thing I said about Denon
• 27:17
  bourbon. This is probably the less
• 27:20
  talented of the two, so my thoughts are the same.
• 27:23
  I'm tossing Wonder Dean out. Hopefully enjoyed his trip to
• 27:26
  the States. Yeah, I would agree.
• 27:29
  I've got Wunder Dean in the no chance category.
• 27:33
  He did win the the UAE AE Derby, but that doesn't really mean
• 27:37
  much since the UAE Derby winners are over 21 since 2000.
• 27:41
  So as Matt said, you know, enjoy the states.
• 27:43
  He's been here since April 1st. So he's been here a while to get
• 27:46
  accustomed to to Churchill. But no, he's he's the the lesser
• 27:52
  of the two Japanese horses. No chance, no chance.
• 27:56
  Yeah, O for 20 and the only one to crack the superfecta is
• 27:59
  Forever Young. So not only have they not won,
• 28:02
  but they have not finished in the money very often.
• 28:06
  I it's AI clear. No chance for me.
• 28:09
  Just pretty simple. Incredible.
• 28:12
  Raleigh Mart second horse ridden by Jaime Torres.
• 28:17
  Of the two Raleigh Marts, do you think this is the better horse
• 28:21
  than than Albus? I do, but I do.
• 28:23
  But do y'all think he has a chance?
• 28:25
  I am higher than most Unincredible.
• 28:28
  I think that I know that the Virginia Derby wasn't the best
• 28:33
  field in the world. I get that, don't get me wrong.
• 28:35
  But he looked really impressive. Really kind of pushed in, ran
• 28:39
  away with it. I really liked what I saw there
• 28:42
  and he is 2 for two at Churchill.
• 28:44
  They there are only a couple of horses that have actually won at
• 28:47
  Churchill. He's the only horse that won two
• 28:49
  races at Churchill. So he's comfortable with the
• 28:51
  track. Now are those races with 160,000
• 28:54
  people in the stands? No, but at least he's
• 28:56
  comfortable, familiar with it. You're going to get a really
• 28:59
  good price on him. Right now he's 37 to 1.
• 29:01
  I think I locked him in at 25 to one at one of the future wagers
• 29:06
  back in April. I I think of the long, this is
• 29:10
  my longer shot that I will play in the end of the the bottoms of
• 29:15
  your super factors trifectas and I've got a little stake to win.
• 29:18
  What's what's what are the odds now?
• 29:20
  I got I saw him at 37 to one earlier today.
• 29:22
  Is that still? 37 to one right now, so you can
• 29:25
  say I got a bad deal in the 25 to one, but it'll, you know,
• 29:27
  it'll work itself out. I'm not sold on them.
• 29:30
  I've got him in not in my worst, not in the no chance category,
• 29:34
  but he's in the toss category for me.
• 29:35
  I know he did win the Virginia Derby, but I mean I'm the what's
• 29:38
  the field of the Virginia Derby, You know, like just looking at
• 29:42
  who came in the in that and there's no Derby horses in that
• 29:44
  one. Prior to that he lost by 25
• 29:46
  lengths than the Holy Bowl. He is 2 for two at Churchill, as
• 29:51
  Matt mentioned. And he did win the Streets and
• 29:52
  Stakes, which is the race that Sovereignty won the year before
• 29:56
  he won the Derby. So he does have that going for
• 29:58
  him in the familiarity in the winning at Churchill.
• 30:00
  But when you lose by 25 lengths and right before you win the
• 30:05
  Virginia Derby, that's that's a red.
• 30:06
  That's an alarm for me. Plus he's coming off A7 week
• 30:09
  layoff, so he hasn't raced in a long time, probably longer than
• 30:12
  anybody in the field. So he's got to get a rant back
• 30:15
  up. I don't see it.
• 30:17
  I've got him in the toss category.
• 30:19
  Like the holy bull like is just unexplainable how bad he was
• 30:23
  that day. Like, and to me that's a giant
• 30:28
  red flag. If he's not 2 for two at
• 30:30
  Churchill, there's no way I'm even looking at disorder.
• 30:36
  And I just, I think Matt's kind of dealing with his little
• 30:40
  loyalty thing that I'm dealing with, with the Puma a little bit
• 30:44
  on Incredible. But I, I just, I can't get over
• 30:50
  the holy bull. I mean the bad part.
• 30:53
  Of the Lexus in Christ is unbelievable.
• 30:56
  And then he had no excuses for it.
• 30:58
  I didn't even bet him in the Virginia Derby.
• 31:00
  I forgot who I bet. I didn't bet him, but I was
• 31:01
  like, oh man, this works as good.
• 31:04
  So I don't know. I it's it's the it's the long
• 31:07
  shot that I believe in the most. Is it going to do anything?
• 31:10
  Probably not, but you never know.
• 31:11
  But I mean if you like him a little bit then the 3137 to 1
• 31:15
  price is worth taking a shot on it.
• 31:18
  Yeah, I'm. I'm I'm tossing him.
• 31:23
  We move on to Chief Wallaby. You got Bill Mott and Junior
• 31:27
  Alvarado trying to win back-to-back Derbies.
• 31:32
  It's only it's only happened once I think in the history of
• 31:35
  Derby where a Jackie Jockey trainer combo has has won in
• 31:38
  back-to-back years. Neil, your your thoughts on
• 31:41
  Chief Wallaby? When I looked earlier, he's at
• 31:44
  13 to 1. I love that absolute value right
• 31:47
  there because I have him in is one of my final win probably is
• 31:51
  the final horse that we talked about in my win contenders
• 31:54
  category. I got no he finished third in
• 31:56
  the Florida Derby behind the Puma in Commandment and he
• 31:58
  finished second to commandment in the Fountain of Youth as
• 32:01
  well. So he has not overcome some of
• 32:04
  these other top horses yet. But Bill Mott talked about in
• 32:09
  the Florida Derby how he thought his horse lost focus.
• 32:12
  He is also going with blinders and in his workouts they seem to
• 32:15
  have affected him in a positive way.
• 32:17
  He's he's running some good workouts with these blinders on.
• 32:21
  Maybe that's what he needs to to get over that hump.
• 32:23
  We'll see. But at 13 to one absolute value
• 32:27
  book it put him in the win category.
• 32:31
  I could not agree more. If we can get Chief Wallaby and
• 32:34
  double digit odds at post time at 7:00 on Saturday, that'll be
• 32:39
  fantastic. I think I will get with the
• 32:42
  negatives first. Has not won a stakes race.
• 32:44
  As Neil mentioned, lost Fountain of Youth, lost the Florida
• 32:47
  Derby. The positive about the Florida
• 32:49
  Derby is I think he had the worst route, worst, you know,
• 32:54
  race of the three of them and he really had to battle, got stuck
• 32:57
  inside, had to come out and still finish third in a really
• 33:00
  slower pace race. So I think that was positive and
• 33:04
  adding the blinkers because if you watch the end of, I think it
• 33:07
  was the end of the Fountain Youth, he's kind of looking off,
• 33:10
  looking off, and it might have been the reason why Commandment
• 33:13
  got him. So hopefully the blinkers will
• 33:15
  help. And like Neil said, the value, I
• 33:18
  mean, if you're going to get even if you get him 8-9 to 1, I
• 33:21
  think it's got the same amount of potential as Commandment and
• 33:26
  Renegade. So he is in my winner category
• 33:29
  as well. So there's two red flags with
• 33:33
  the source that knock him down for me.
• 33:37
  And you mentioned the fact he hasn't won a sex race.
• 33:40
  How are you going to win the Derby if you haven't proven that
• 33:42
  you can win a sex race? And.
• 33:44
  Did wrist strike win a sex race? Do what?
• 33:48
  Yeah, he wants to just he finished.
• 33:51
  Only no. Like what is?
• 33:53
  What were the numbers that I saw?
• 33:59
  Rich Strike didn't win the Ruby, right?
• 34:01
  I don't think Rich Strike won anything he might have put.
• 34:03
  I mean, that horse was. There's no way Rich Strike won a
• 34:06
  state. Race Hell no, but nobody was
• 34:09
  picking Rich Strike to win. I'm just saying it is possible,
• 34:12
  Nicholas. It is possible.
• 34:14
  Well, I will give you another one.
• 34:15
  And the equipment change I think is a big red flag and no horse
• 34:21
  in 25 years has added blinkers and hit the try.
• 34:24
  So you add those two things together and I don't think he's
• 34:29
  going to go off. Would you all say he's 13 to 1
• 34:30
  now? Yes, 13 to 1.
• 34:32
  I think he's going to go off to closer to what he was in the
• 34:35
  opening line around that 8 to 1 number.
• 34:38
  Still good number. But you also you have to toss
• 34:42
  some horses that are good. A lot of people are going to
• 34:44
  pick to win and. Toss.
• 34:47
  You're tossing. Them I just look at, yeah.
• 34:49
  Oh yes, no wonder you've only won one race in 2 days.
• 34:54
  Well, I'm not very good at this, but dude, I just think those two
• 34:57
  things stand out. OK, but what if the blinders
• 35:00
  help? Well, it's a it's a unknown and
• 35:05
  like you don't see this happening very often where you
• 35:07
  get equipment changes going to the Derby and to me you're
• 35:11
  trying to find something. The fact that he hasn't won a
• 35:14
  stakes wage previously, I just don't see the Derby being his
• 35:17
  first stakes win. Yeah.
• 35:19
  Well, to be fair, it's only race 4 for him.
• 35:21
  He did not get raced as a 2 year old.
• 35:23
  So you can take that on the positive end, you can take that
• 35:25
  on the negative end. He's lightly race, but he seems
• 35:28
  to be getting better each and every time he's out there.
• 35:30
  So that's how I'm going to take it with him.
• 35:32
  But again, that could be a negative, not winning a stakes
• 35:35
  race, not really getting race much.
• 35:37
  Yeah, solid tactic scratched earlier today.
• 35:42
  Then we move in to Bob Baffert's second horse, Potente, ridden by
• 35:47
  Juan Hernandez. Matt, your your thoughts on
• 35:50
  Potente? I am.
• 35:54
  I'm tossing him, but I wouldn't be surprised if he gets slot 4.
• 36:00
  You know he can finish 4th. It's got speed.
• 36:03
  Baffert's probably going to send him.
• 36:06
  He'll be up there with litmus test with Intrepido and they're
• 36:09
  going to be setting the pace. It's just how long can you hold
• 36:12
  on for? And again, all my comments,
• 36:15
  California racing just continue. So toss, but I could see him
• 36:19
  finishing third. Yeah, he's in my toss category
• 36:23
  as well. He might be worth a long shot
• 36:25
  sprinkle on there if you want to throw, throw a little money at
• 36:28
  him. And the odds I saw this
• 36:29
  afternoon were 28 to one. As Matt mentioned, he's he's a
• 36:33
  speed pacesetter. So he's going to get out there
• 36:35
  and he's just going to try to run and run fast.
• 36:38
  He probably will run out of gas. His got really weak late pace
• 36:43
  figures, but he probably will run out of gas.
• 36:46
  But in case he doesn't, it's worth the $2.00, maybe a $2.00
• 36:49
  bet on him just to see if maybe he doesn't, Maybe he kicks that,
• 36:52
  finds that extra gear late and somehow miracle he wins the
• 36:55
  thing. But I mean, he did win the
• 36:56
  Sanfilippo Felipe Stakes. He has beaten so Happy in the
• 37:00
  past and then so Happy came and got him back again in the Santa
• 37:02
  Anita Derby as Potente reigned second.
• 37:07
  He's in the toss category, but he's worth maybe a sprinkle of
• 37:10
  some money on him. Look at like, are we really just
• 37:14
  going to ignore both of Baffert's horses?
• 37:17
  Yes. Yeah, this year, yeah.
• 37:20
  I mean, I'm not totally ignoring Potente, not ignoring them.
• 37:22
  As I said, he's at at 28 to one. He's probably worth A2 to $5 bet
• 37:28
  just in case. If if you did a head to head of
• 37:30
  Baffert's two horses, would you pick potente?
• 37:33
  Yes, overlit this test. Absolutely.
• 37:35
  Yeah, I mean, I just have a hard time ignoring both of Baffert's
• 37:39
  horses with with his just what he does.
• 37:43
  And if you're going to get this horse that, like you said,
• 37:45
  around 30 to one, it could be worth including in in a try or a
• 37:50
  super mean. He's finished first or second in
• 37:55
  every race. Like you said, I know this is
• 37:56
  only his fourth race in his career, but he's finished first
• 37:59
  or second and it was a heavy favorite in the Santa Anita.
• 38:02
  So people were expecting him to win their race.
• 38:05
  Obviously it didn't happen. I I'm putting him in in my Tri
• 38:09
  super contenders. We we now we're onto a horse
• 38:11
  that's only race twice. Emerging market trained by Chad
• 38:15
  Brown riven by Flavian Pratt. Neil, your your thoughts on
• 38:19
  emerging market? I mean, he's got really good
• 38:21
  speed numbers. He won the Louisiana Derby.
• 38:25
  He beat Pavlovian and Golden Tempo, two other Derby horses in
• 38:30
  that race. He he said he's only made two
• 38:34
  starts. Only one other horses won the
• 38:36
  Derby with just two starts. And that came back in 1883 with
• 38:40
  Leon. Leon Leonidas, I think was the
• 38:43
  horse's name. Yeah, I mean, Chad, Chad Brown,
• 38:47
  the trainer's looking for his first Derby.
• 38:49
  He's O 9. And then Flavian Pratt, who
• 38:53
  decided to not ride Commandment and chose this horse for unknown
• 38:57
  reasons, but maybe he's just got some confidence in emerging
• 39:01
  market. But I don't know he for me,
• 39:05
  emerging market, I've got him in my toss category because there's
• 39:09
  a lot of unknowns. But he's just a white, he's an
• 39:13
  unknown. He's just an unknown horse to me
• 39:15
  with only the two starts. So for me he's out.
• 39:18
  But I would not be surprised if he does make into the Tri super
• 39:22
  category at the end. So I've got merging in my other
• 39:29
  winners in the Try Superfecta exacta spot for one reason and
• 39:35
  one reason only. And thanks to the bear from
• 39:39
  college. Game Day had a tweet earlier
• 39:40
  this week. Flavian Pratt has at 16 mounts
• 39:44
  in Triple Crown races. Only once has he finished worse
• 39:47
  than 4th and that was with the second Triple Crown mount,
• 39:50
  Solomon Solomini. His 16 mounts have resulted in
• 39:53
  two wins, 2 seconds, 7 thirds and 4 fourths.
• 39:57
  So I, I mean, again, that doesn't mean the horse is going
• 40:00
  to win, but Flavian chosen for a reason and I'm including him on
• 40:04
  tickets because I don't want to that be the reason why these
• 40:07
  tickets don't come home. Yeah, I I think the fact that
• 40:12
  Flavian chose the source over commandment, like I can't ignore
• 40:15
  him. Like we're we're two starts in
• 40:19
  this horse could end up being maybe the best horse in the
• 40:23
  field at some point. But can he win on Saturday, Neil
• 40:28
  talked about No 3 No 3 year old has won the Derby with the third
• 40:32
  start since 1883. Only 6 have tried since 1937 and
• 40:39
  TO passwords finished fifth. That was the best result in
• 40:41
  2024. I I think I have to include the
• 40:46
  source strictly because of Flavian because of the numbers
• 40:48
  he's put up in his two races. He's undefeated.
• 40:51
  It is it a little concerning that his third race is going to
• 40:54
  be the Derby where he's in a gate with 19 other horses?
• 40:57
  Yeah, of course. But I've I've got to put this
• 41:01
  horse in I I'm thinking I've got him in my Tri super, but he's
• 41:05
  close to a win candidate for me. All right, we move on to
• 41:10
  Pavlovian, Doug O'Neill and Edwin Maldonado.
• 41:14
  Matt, where you got on Pavlov Pavlovian?
• 41:18
  I've got him in the new chance. I I know some people have talked
• 41:23
  about maybe he can get up in there.
• 41:26
  I'm not seeing it. I'm just, I mean with a 20 horse
• 41:30
  field, you got to knock some horses off before you start
• 41:33
  figuring out what you want. And Pavlovian did not make it
• 41:36
  through that cut. So I am pass throw out whatever
• 41:41
  you want to call. Yeah, I've got him in the no
• 41:44
  chance as well, 52 to 1. He finished second in Louisiana
• 41:49
  Derby 2, that emerging market that we just talked about.
• 41:52
  I mean, unlike emerging market with he was only made two
• 41:55
  starts. This horse is one of the more
• 41:57
  experienced with 1010 starts already, though he's a seasoned
• 42:01
  veteran. I guess you could say.
• 42:04
  He switched up his styles. He used to be slow running out
• 42:06
  of the gate and then now they put blinders on him and he's
• 42:10
  kind of a front runner if you will, so he gets out quick.
• 42:13
  But no, there's there's no chance with this one.
• 42:17
  This guy's the sorry to cut you off, Nick.
• 42:19
  This guy's the 9 year old tight end from Miami in college
• 42:23
  athletics. That's this guy.
• 42:25
  He's on his ninth year of playing college football.
• 42:27
  Basically. No, it's like the fact that
• 42:29
  you've got emerging market with two and him with 10 and they're
• 42:32
  right next to each other is just, I mean, it's just such a
• 42:36
  big gap. Like it's crazy O'Neill and has
• 42:44
  won the Derby twice with I'll have another in Nyquist.
• 42:48
  I just I don't know if you can get the distance.
• 42:50
  I think it's such a big jump in class for this horse.
• 42:53
  I I just it's it's a toss for me.
• 42:58
  We move on to 6 speed Brian Hernandez aboard.
• 43:04
  Matt, what you got? 6 speed, he's going to get up,
• 43:08
  he's going to be one of those horses that's going to be out
• 43:10
  front, but you can probably forget him after the 6th furlong
• 43:14
  because he's just not going to be able to compete again.
• 43:17
  Jump in class international horse that just doesn't have the
• 43:19
  pedigree so he is a cannot win for me.
• 43:23
  Yeah, no chance for this one either.
• 43:25
  He finished second in the UAE Derby to Wonder Dean, and we
• 43:29
  talked about how Wonder Dean has no chance.
• 43:31
  So if you're coming behind a horse that we've already said
• 43:33
  has no chance, you also have no chance.
• 43:36
  He hasn't won a race over a mile, so I don't see him running
• 43:40
  it. Winning a race.
• 43:40
  It's a mile and a quarter. Yeah, no, no chance for this
• 43:45
  one. Yeah, the only chances of the
• 43:49
  pace just completely collapsed and he's able to just go
• 43:51
  unchallenged. But that that is not going to
• 43:54
  happen and he is a no chance. We move on to Brad Cox's second
• 44:02
  horse, Further Ado, ridden by John Velasquez.
• 44:06
  Neil, what you got? Yeah, as of this afternoon, odds
• 44:09
  were six to one, which makes him the Coast second choice.
• 44:12
  Won the Bluegrass Stakes by 11 Lakes, so an absolute dominant
• 44:18
  win down the road at Keeneland. He did win a Grade 2 race at
• 44:22
  Churchill last fall, so he has won on this track before. 1 red
• 44:27
  flag. As we mentioned, I read Ortiz.
• 44:28
  He's ridden further ADO in all three of his wins, but has
• 44:31
  chosen to not keep that up and he went to Renegade.
• 44:35
  So obviously the confidence with I read there is is not quite
• 44:40
  what it is with with a with a Renegade.
• 44:43
  He does have a pretty good jockey that that took over
• 44:45
  though. John Velasquez, who's won three
• 44:47
  Derbies already. I've got him in my try super
• 44:51
  picks because I think he's a really good horse.
• 44:53
  I just think he's won one level below the Renegade Commandments
• 44:58
  Pumas of the World. So do is my least favorite of my
• 45:06
  top 6. The best way to put it, I am
• 45:09
  very bullish on this horse. I think it's best races have
• 45:12
  been at Keeneland and they've been very impressive.
• 45:14
  But just because your best races have only come at Keeneland
• 45:17
  doesn't mean it doesn't come over to Churchill.
• 45:21
  Doesn't translate well. And the fact that just the last
• 45:24
  horse in the blue, the complete in the blue Bluegrass, to even
• 45:28
  win the Derby with Street Sounds back in 2007, the last one to
• 45:31
  win the bluegrass and win the Derby, you have to go back to
• 45:34
  1991. I just don't think the odds are
• 45:36
  on its side. I am going to have them on my
• 45:39
  underlays because I don't want to get beat by him and I think
• 45:42
  he can get in that second, third or fourth.
• 45:44
  I am just choosing to think that he is not going to win.
• 45:48
  But I could see him winning. I'm just choosing him not to.
• 45:52
  High speed figure in the field, I mean, and he just dominated in
• 45:57
  the bluegrass. You do wonder like how much does
• 46:02
  him love in Keeneland? Like is is he really a horse for
• 46:05
  course? Is it the would you know, like I
• 46:08
  don't know, like it's a dirt course.
• 46:10
  It's what's an hour away? Like does it really make that
• 46:14
  big a difference? I don't know, like the Bluegrass
• 46:19
  has not had a winner since 91, but they're finishing in the try
• 46:23
  quite a bit recently. Good Magic was second, Essential
• 46:26
  quality was third, Zanden was third, Sierra Leone was second.
• 46:29
  So they have been competitive recently.
• 46:33
  I rad passing is is a concern for me.
• 46:36
  But like you said, you're you're still getting John Velasquez,
• 46:39
  who has proven that he can win this race.
• 46:41
  I got this horse as a wing candidate.
• 46:43
  I mean it's just I I have a hard time not putting the highest
• 46:46
  speed fig in the field as one of my top win.
• 46:49
  Don't love him at 6 to 1 though. If he was in like the Chief
• 46:56
  Wallaby number in that 3rd 10 to 13, that'd be great.
• 46:59
  I just think if if you're in that number, you're 6-7 to 1,
• 47:03
  I'm personally choosing Renegade over him.
• 47:06
  I'm choosing Commandment over him.
• 47:08
  I'm even probably choosing the Puma over him.
• 47:12
  OK, And here's another thing too.
• 47:14
  He's a gun runner and those horses have not really been at
• 47:20
  their best at Derby but have been really good post Derby.
• 47:25
  Like with Tyba and Sierra Leone and Cyber Knife.
• 47:29
  You know they've had a lot of success afterwards but had none
• 47:32
  of them have won the Derby. You if you like, you did A1V1
• 47:37
  versus Renegade. I'm taking Further Ado over
• 47:39
  Renegade with with the one rail with Tim being a closer.
• 47:43
  I I like Further Ado better than Renegade.
• 47:48
  We move on to Golden Tempo. Sherry Devoe, Jose Ortiz, Matt,
• 47:54
  your thoughts? I mean, coming in 3rd at both of
• 48:00
  his stakes, the last two stakes races at the Fairgrounds and the
• 48:04
  Fairgrounds don't have the best crop of talent, so I am no
• 48:08
  chance on Golden Dembo. I'm not putting him in the no
• 48:12
  chance category. I think he's a deep closer.
• 48:14
  So you always have that horse in the Derby that just comes out of
• 48:17
  nowhere and somehow gets up for 3rd or 4th.
• 48:20
  I think he has that potential. He's got no chance at winning,
• 48:24
  but I think he could like come, like I said, like off the screen
• 48:27
  and like, oh holy hell, how did this horse get 4th?
• 48:30
  You know, he's got that kind of potential.
• 48:34
  As you said, he finished third in in Louisiana Derby, but but
• 48:36
  behind two other Derby horses in Emerging market and Pavlovian.
• 48:40
  He's like you said, never run anywhere other than the
• 48:41
  fairgrounds. He does have the familiarity of
• 48:45
  Jose Ortiz, who's the only jockey to ever ride him, unlike
• 48:48
  some of these other horses that are switching around like it's,
• 48:51
  you know, like it's a game of poker.
• 48:55
  So he does have that. He's sired by two time horse of
• 48:58
  the year in Kerlin. So he's got some good bloodlines
• 49:00
  in him. No chance of winning, but I
• 49:02
  would not be surprised if we look up at the end result and
• 49:05
  it's like he's 4th. Kerlin has never won the Derby
• 49:09
  as a sire, but yeah, the he he needs pace.
• 49:17
  Not going to get it like I I could see where you.
• 49:20
  I agree with you, Neil. I think he could potentially
• 49:23
  finish in the try but I'm I'm tossing. 48 to 1 it's a good
• 49:31
  it's a good, good one to have you.
• 49:32
  I think you don't finish the try you.
• 49:34
  I could see a bet where you concluding like third and 4th if
• 49:38
  in in your try you're super. I think I'll put him, I'll put
• 49:41
  him in the box, put him in the box.
• 49:44
  You might have talked me into changing that one.
• 49:47
  Full effort. Brad Cox's third horse, ridden
• 49:50
  by Tyler Gafflione. Neil, what you got here?
• 49:56
  I have him in my toss category. I'm not giving him no chance.
• 50:01
  I've got him in my toss category.
• 50:02
  He's 19 to one this afternoon. He might be worth about a 2 to
• 50:06
  $5 bet just in case He won the Jeff Ruby Stakes.
• 50:11
  However, he's never raced on actual dirt.
• 50:13
  Supposed to be the first time he's ever done that.
• 50:16
  I don't know. He does have Brad Cox.
• 50:19
  I like Brad but I don't see him winning or coming in in the in
• 50:23
  the money. But for 19 to one it might be
• 50:25
  worth the $2.00 bet. Brad Cox is doing a wonderful PR
• 50:28
  job with him because he talks him up of probably he talks him
• 50:32
  up more than he talks up Further Ado.
• 50:34
  And I think Further Ado is the better, the worse.
• 50:36
  I think full Effort's one of those that we're going to look
• 50:38
  down later this year and come breed your cup or whatever.
• 50:41
  Full Effort is going to be a lot better than he is right now.
• 50:44
  I think it's just really tough. I know other horses have done
• 50:46
  it, but it's tough to have your first dirt race in the Kentucky
• 50:50
  Derby from post 20 or 19. I guess it's 19 right now, post
• 50:54
  19. So I'm I'm tossing him.
• 50:58
  I'm not saying no chance. He's in my toss cat.
• 51:02
  You just look at the PPS and the four starts on turf, 3 on
• 51:07
  synthetic just really stick out. And it's not like he has it, you
• 51:11
  race 7 times. So he's had opportunities to to
• 51:15
  race on dirt. But I watch FanDuel TV and I'm
• 51:19
  watching all these previews and so many people are on full
• 51:23
  effort as their wind horse. And look, the Jeff Ruby Stakes
• 51:30
  have had some success in the in the in the Derby the last couple
• 51:33
  years. Three of the last four Derby
• 51:36
  superfectors, including a horse that ran in the the Jeff Ruby
• 51:39
  Stakes final gamut finished fourth last year. 2 Fields came
• 51:43
  in second and 23 Rich Strike one in 22.
• 51:48
  And then the I think the only other Derby winner that won the
• 51:53
  Jeff Ruby Stakes was Animal Kingdom back in 2011.
• 51:59
  His speed figures aren't that great either.
• 52:02
  But like, what do everybody know that I don't like?
• 52:05
  Why are so many people on this horse?
• 52:07
  And it makes me want to put him and the fact that Brad Cox is
• 52:11
  all like, you're right. I do think he's pumping him up
• 52:14
  more than his other two horses. So what's the odd?
• 52:18
  He was What's his odds now? 19 to 1. 19 to 1.
• 52:23
  I don't think he's a 19 to one quality horse, but.
• 52:27
  I'm putting him in my tries in my supers and then getting in
• 52:36
  after the scratches is great. White trained by John Ennis,
• 52:41
  ridden by Alice Ashard. Matt, would you got on?
• 52:45
  This is the biggest horse in the field.
• 52:47
  Yeah. He's a monster.
• 52:47
  Giant, yeah, giant horse. That's probably all I got on
• 52:52
  him. I I was, I bet on him at
• 52:56
  Keeneland. Did not win with him at
• 52:58
  Keeneland but very a visually impressive horse but he is in my
• 53:04
  no chance. I mean, he's got to be, I think
• 53:08
  he's got to be in everybody's no chance category.
• 53:10
  I mean, it's going to like the only chance he has is is like
• 53:14
  that rich strike type of luck that just lightning in a bottle
• 53:18
  for one race and somehow it all comes together for him.
• 53:21
  I mean, he he's a monster horse. He's over 1300 lbs.
• 53:25
  He lost by to Further Ado by 22 Lakes in the Bluegrass.
• 53:29
  If you're doing that, I don't know how you're going to win the
• 53:31
  Kentucky Derby. So put him in that.
• 53:33
  No chance. I think Johnny and this is just
• 53:35
  happy to have a horse in the Derby.
• 53:37
  That's about it. He he faded badly in the
• 53:41
  bluegrass and I think this could be the longest shot on the
• 53:44
  board. I mean, obviously you're getting
• 53:46
  in after a scratch, you're going to be close to that.
• 53:49
  This is AI just no chance. We don't need to go into it too
• 53:53
  much. I mean, nobody even talked about
• 53:55
  Rich Strike wasn't even mentioned on most of these shows
• 53:58
  before the Derby. And then he goes and wins the
• 54:00
  thing. But all right, let's do a little
• 54:02
  draft. We'll each pick three horses.
• 54:05
  We'll do Snake. We'll go Matt, Neil, me.
• 54:09
  So Matt, you get the honors. Who's your first pick taking?
• 54:13
  Commandment, I'm going the low floor.
• 54:18
  All right, my first pick is going to be my actual Derby pick
• 54:22
  that I think is going to win it, and that's going to be the Puma.
• 54:24
  Give me the Puma. So Commandment would have been
• 54:27
  my first pick, but give me further ado and then with my
• 54:37
  second pick guess, give me Renegade.
• 54:43
  Inside too. Sure of that second pick.
• 54:45
  There. Yeah, I'm not.
• 54:47
  I thought. I thought I was.
• 54:48
  Going to get going the first 5 picks and we really don't know
• 54:50
  what we're doing. All right, so then my second
• 54:54
  pick, give me give me the chief. Give me the chief Wallaby.
• 54:58
  So Chief is actually my favorite to win, but I didn't think Chief
• 55:02
  was. I knew Commandment wasn't going
• 55:04
  to make it around. I was hoping Chief might.
• 55:06
  So my second pick I am going to go with, I will trust Flavian,
• 55:14
  I'll take emerging market. OK.
• 55:18
  And you get another one. I get one more I am going to go
• 55:24
  with. I'm going to take my guy
• 55:26
  incredible. Let's ride all.
• 55:32
  Right now you got one more. Let me get, let me get the
• 55:36
  Kentucky horse that runs backwards.
• 55:37
  Give me Danon bourbon, hopefully he runs the right way.
• 55:42
  He can give me some money but I'm going to non bourbon with my
• 55:45
  last pick. All right, and I'll close it
• 55:48
  out. Was really hoping emerging
• 55:52
  market would get to me, but I'll go full effort.
• 55:57
  So our order was Commandment the Puma further ADO Renegade, then
• 56:09
  what was yours? Chief.
• 56:11
  Chief Wallaby and then Matt went in.
• 56:15
  Emerging market and then incredible.
• 56:17
  You write news down so we can come back and talk about this.
• 56:21
  I wrote my 3 down. So that went pretty quick.
• 56:27
  I, I, I would have been a really hard to go deeper than that,
• 56:30
  like if we did four horses. Yeah, they're all just Yeah.
• 56:33
  The the only other again I I probably could have gone I
• 56:38
  should have gone potente, but I was like I'm going to stick to
• 56:40
  incredible as being my third horse.
• 56:43
  So is the Puma is your pick since that was your first pick,
• 56:47
  Neil, is he your pick to win? The Puma is my pick to win.
• 56:50
  It was close. I went back and forth between
• 56:52
  him and the cheap Wallaby today, but the Puma outdid Chief in the
• 56:57
  in the in the Florida Derby, so I'm going Puma.
• 57:01
  OK. And and the Matt.
• 57:02
  I do not think commandment is your pick to win though, right?
• 57:05
  Nope, Chief Wallaby I I'm either going to be right in that the
• 57:09
  Pumas, the wise guy horse, or my horse is going to be the wise
• 57:11
  guy horse. It's one of those two.
• 57:13
  It could be both of them. I just think the value that
• 57:17
  you're going to get, and since we've been talking, he's now
• 57:19
  down to 12 to one, but still like the value you're going to
• 57:22
  get on Wallaby and he might not be the right like, you know,
• 57:26
  commandments got your better commandment renegade to do.
• 57:29
  It's 1A. Those horses are one Wallabies
• 57:31
  1A. You could argue that it's up
• 57:33
  there and it's worth it and he's got a good post.
• 57:36
  He just needs to stay in the middle of the pack and make it
• 57:38
  turn. And my win pick is going to be
• 57:41
  commandment. I just, he's the most consistent
• 57:44
  horse in this field. And I made it, I just, I just
• 57:51
  look at all the numbers and I, there's, I don't think he has
• 57:54
  any real negatives. And I, I can find a negative on
• 57:58
  almost every horse in this field.
• 57:59
  And I have a hard time finding one for, for commandment.
• 58:03
  And that's why I'm going that way.
• 58:04
  Yeah, the only negative about commandment is that Irad didn't
• 58:07
  choose him. But that's not your and that's
• 58:09
  not commandments fault. It's nothing that the horse did.
• 58:11
  It's a human choice, and humans can be wrong.
• 58:15
  Are we going to start winning some races tomorrow?
• 58:17
  I. Hope so.
• 58:20
  I hope we do. I mean, it's like the odds are
• 58:22
  going to get better as more people are betting the cause
• 58:25
  aren't going to affect it as much.
• 58:27
  But let's just hope that I mean, heck, today was all about early
• 58:30
  speed, no matter what the heck, the early speed on your sprints
• 58:34
  and then your closers on your routes.
• 58:36
  I feel like that's been the key. And don't try to stray too far
• 58:40
  away from the board. I know a 26 to one one the last
• 58:43
  one and there was a 5 to 1, but outside of that in these early
• 58:47
  races there have not been many big shots.
• 58:49
  So and that's the problem, like favorites are winning and we're
• 58:52
  I'm still not hitting you. Know, yeah.
• 58:59
  Even if you're hitting it, you got to hit them so consistently,
• 59:01
  I think to make a profit. I know it just makes if if.
• 59:05
  You hit a longer shot, you can go one for four.
• 59:07
  If you're hitting favorites, you have to go like 3 for four or at
• 59:10
  least 2 for four and you're breaking even if it's, and
• 59:13
  that's the tough part is like, oh, you got a horse that's nine
• 59:16
  to five goes into the gate and then all of a sudden you know,
• 59:19
  it starts, it's blacked out and then all of a sudden he's 4:00
• 59:21
  to 5:00 and you're like, what? What the heck happened?
• 59:24
  Yeah, no. And the, the, the Caws man,
• 59:28
  Yeah, like there was the, the one race you were talking about
• 59:31
  today. He went off at 2:00 to 1:00,
• 59:33
  then was 7 to 5. And by the time he was
• 59:35
  finishing, he was 4 to 5. Like and it's just so front,
• 59:40
  like you actually hit one and then you're like, what about his
• 59:42
  mate? 8 bucks.
• 59:43
  Yep. But before we get you out of
• 59:48
  here, you, you are a Patriots fan.
• 59:51
  Yeah. So feel like we got to talk Mike
• 59:55
  Rabel and what's going on there. You got, you got, you got takes
• 59:58
  on it. Yeah, I mean, I was luckily on
• 1:00:00
  vacation last week, so it was the perfect time because it was
• 1:00:03
  probably the most ridiculous week and I've been on this earth
• 1:00:07
  for 34 years. I was the most ridiculous week
• 1:00:10
  as a Boston sports fan you ever could have.
• 1:00:12
  You have the variable stuff happening midweek, the Red Sox
• 1:00:15
  Red Wedding that they had over the weekend.
• 1:00:18
  I mean, it was just absolute chaos.
• 1:00:20
  The variable things is somebody, you know, someone's holding a
• 1:00:25
  grudge because you're having stuff that came out from six
• 1:00:27
  years ago. Who's holding on to that stuff?
• 1:00:30
  For this, I was wondering that like like these pictures are
• 1:00:33
  that old from when he got fired from the Titans and.
• 1:00:36
  Yeah, like what is even before that, like the the 2020 picture
• 1:00:41
  in the bar, Like, why are you holding on to that?
• 1:00:44
  Like that he's on his second or third job at this point.
• 1:00:48
  My my hot takes are the my top choice for whoever hired this Pi
• 1:00:53
  or had all this stuff was Rossini's husband.
• 1:00:55
  My second choice is Bill Belichick.
• 1:00:56
  I. Was just saying Bill Belichick
• 1:00:58
  he is. So spiteful.
• 1:01:00
  He is so spiteful. Patriots are good again.
• 1:01:03
  Release the pictures. I mean there almost has to be
• 1:01:06
  some kind of Pi there to get these pictures.
• 1:01:09
  Right, Yeah, there is they I think that's I think 1 was hired
• 1:01:12
  to get the stuff in Sedona. I think that's how it kind of
• 1:01:14
  but if. It's Rossini's husband and these
• 1:01:16
  pictures have been around for six years.
• 1:01:18
  Why are now are we coming out with it like you?
• 1:01:21
  Just wait till Rebel became successful again just to try to
• 1:01:23
  tear him down. I think the most ridiculous part
• 1:01:27
  of it all is just the the bread crumbs that were left all over
• 1:01:31
  the place. And it's like, Oh my God, like
• 1:01:33
  again, maybe they maybe they were on purpose, maybe they
• 1:01:36
  weren't. You just didn't know.
• 1:01:37
  But I'm like. Well now we've got the stuff
• 1:01:39
  everywhere theory out there that Rusini's son might be Rabel's
• 1:01:43
  kid. After the tweet that she said
• 1:01:45
  maybe Mike, she named her Michael and then tweeted looking
• 1:01:48
  at my four year old son and thinking about all the great
• 1:01:51
  players and coaches in the NFL named Michael.
• 1:01:54
  Like. What?
• 1:01:56
  She was clearly thinking of Michael Orr from the Blind Side.
• 1:01:58
  Come on, Neil. Yeah, Michael Urban.
• 1:02:00
  Yeah, sure. Well, she's lost her job, right?
• 1:02:05
  Yes. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:06
  And then I believe she resigned. And then he set out the third
• 1:02:09
  day of the draft. Wasn't he supposed to go to
• 1:02:12
  counseling but then somebody spotted him buying a gift for
• 1:02:14
  his wife in Salt Lake City or something?
• 1:02:17
  Maybe the counseling that's. How they know it's for his wife?
• 1:02:20
  Going on, I don't know. Yeah, it's, that was crazy, I
• 1:02:26
  guess. I mean, I hope he gets whatever
• 1:02:29
  he needs figured out. Obviously not a good look on the
• 1:02:33
  personal side, but luckily hopefully it doesn't affect him
• 1:02:37
  from the professional side. And if something, I hate to say
• 1:02:40
  it, if something like this is going to happen, right now is
• 1:02:44
  probably a better time than in, you know, training camp, you
• 1:02:47
  know, during the season, playoff run, etcetera.
• 1:02:51
  But yeah. Those are that going to be the
• 1:02:53
  only like is not really suspension, but him missing the
• 1:02:57
  third day of the draft, is that going to be the only punishment
• 1:03:00
  that he gets for this? Yeah, I mean, they, I think day
• 1:03:04
  one of the draft, they asked Adele if this falls under like
• 1:03:07
  the personal conduct thing or whatever the the league covers
• 1:03:10
  and he said that it's an internal team matter doesn't
• 1:03:13
  rise to that level. So he's not going to get any
• 1:03:15
  punishment from the NFL. Whether the Patriots decide to
• 1:03:19
  do something, I don't know. I mean he's, he's crafts boy.
• 1:03:22
  Luckily, his owners dabbled in a little something something in
• 1:03:25
  his time, you know, in the last couple years.
• 1:03:27
  So doubtful that anything comes out of that.
• 1:03:32
  Yeah, you know, it's. Kind of messed up she loses his
• 1:03:35
  job and he doesn't get any punishment at all.
• 1:03:39
  Yeah, it's tough. It's a tough double standard,
• 1:03:41
  but unfortunately for what their roles are, it's of the one
• 1:03:46
  that's going to lose the job. It's going to be the person in
• 1:03:48
  the reporter role. Right.
• 1:03:50
  Yeah, No, you're right. It's just the whole thing is
• 1:03:55
  just. And you're right.
• 1:03:55
  A completely wild week in Boston sports, I mean.
• 1:04:00
  They. Are everybody.
• 1:04:03
  My my two things about the Red Sox before I go the one somebody
• 1:04:07
  said it was a tweet. The Red Sox problems are if when
• 1:04:11
  you shit your it's like shitting your pants but changing your
• 1:04:14
  shirt right, not going to it's not going to change anything.
• 1:04:19
  The roster management's so bad. They have a talent issue.
• 1:04:22
  They have no power. They're bad at my their hitters
• 1:04:24
  are terrible and Craigs Craig Breslow was the one that put the
• 1:04:28
  team together, outscored, didn't do it.
• 1:04:30
  Now could have outs or magnified it and not really helped out as
• 1:04:34
  much maybe, but I just couldn't get over.
• 1:04:37
  Did you guys see the name of the limo company that picks the
• 1:04:40
  coaches up from? So there's a Boston beat
• 1:04:43
  reporter that was outside the hotel because this happened in
• 1:04:45
  Baltimore. It was Saturday of a three-game
• 1:04:48
  series. They played at noon.
• 1:04:49
  They won 17 to 1. The game that moved out from
• 1:04:52
  4:00 to 4:00 to noon. They win.
• 1:04:54
  The players are out having dinner and that you know, the
• 1:04:58
  ownership group goes, tells them and they hire a limo service and
• 1:05:02
  it's a limo service called Coaches For Hire LLC.
• 1:05:07
  And no, it is not AI, it is not fake.
• 1:05:11
  That is exactly what the limo company was called.
• 1:05:14
  Nice. So.
• 1:05:17
  Well, any chance I hired Alex Corey again here in two years
• 1:05:21
  like they did before? I don't think the Red Sox will.
• 1:05:24
  I'm kind of surprised he didn't. I lost.
• 1:05:26
  Their Red Sox. I mean, I thought he was going
• 1:05:30
  to get hired by the Phillies and the Mets, and the Phillies
• 1:05:32
  apparently offered him the job and he said no.
• 1:05:35
  Now, if the Mets come calling in a couple of months, maybe he'll
• 1:05:37
  take that. He's the perfect coach for if
• 1:05:39
  you have a loaded roster and you just got professionals and you
• 1:05:42
  just go out there and play, he's perfect for that.
• 1:05:45
  I don't think he wants to teach guys and bring people up and
• 1:05:48
  what kind of learning the game of baseball.
• 1:05:49
  I think he's past that point of his.
• 1:05:50
  Career brazing The Reds are off to a good start so Dale and I
• 1:05:53
  are happy. Reds got house tonight though.
• 1:05:57
  Sorry. 162 there are a lot of games.
• 1:06:02
  Yeah. Braves beat school tonight.
• 1:06:05
  Oh. That's regular baseball.
• 1:06:09
  Crochet went on the IL, so someone tweeted out.
• 1:06:12
  Thank you, Red Sox Nation season's over.
• 1:06:16
  Stevenson Crochet is on the I'll see you later.
• 1:06:20
  Well, Matt, we, we thanks for coming on and talking to Derby
• 1:06:24
  with us. We need, we needed somebody else
• 1:06:26
  to come on here that could add a little bit, maybe 3 brains.
• 1:06:30
  Maybe we can get something right.
• 1:06:31
  Hey man, I'm happy to be. Am I the first official guest of
• 1:06:36
  height differential? We had Carl on like episode 2.
• 1:06:40
  It did not go well. He couldn't figure out his
• 1:06:43
  technology. He couldn't figure out his
• 1:06:45
  technology, his wife said. He was being too loud.
• 1:06:47
  Even though he was talking, you could barely hear him.
• 1:06:50
  It was it was a whole ordeal. I That's the only other person
• 1:06:53
  we've had on in it. All right, what was a blast.
• 1:06:58
  Can't wait to fire up the text chain tomorrow to hopefully get
• 1:07:00
  some winners and Thurby and let's just keep this momentum
• 1:07:04
  going and hopefully into Saturday and get some winners.
• 1:07:07
  And then maybe you come on next week and we'll we'll actually
• 1:07:10
  talk, talk the race. Yeah, love it.
• 1:07:13
  Thanks for having me. Guys, yeah, we could have.
• 1:07:15
  We've got a couple more Triple Crown races down the pipe.
• 1:07:17
  We'll get Matt back on here. Yep, he's he's a, he's a horse
• 1:07:20
  racing. Expert.
• 1:07:21
  Triple Crown expert. Yeah, there we go.
• 1:07:23
  I love it. I have it on my Twitter profile,
• 1:07:26
  Future horse Racing handicapper. But we're not there yet.
• 1:07:31
  We are not. We are not to the future.
• 1:07:33
  I mean, we handicap races all the time, we're just not good at
• 1:07:35
  it. Right, it just so hard and like
• 1:07:38
  you think, you think one day you're hot, you're like, I'm
• 1:07:40
  figuring this out and you get humbled really quick.
• 1:07:44
  All right, boys, enjoy. We appreciate you and you're
• 1:07:50
  already over an hour in here. So we'll we'll move pretty
• 1:07:53
  quickly. Just we'll talk the Bengals
• 1:07:56
  draft and as a whole, other than linebackers, where they did
• 1:08:02
  nothing in free agency, they did nothing in the draft.
• 1:08:05
  I think with free agency and the draft, you have to be pretty
• 1:08:07
  happy with the Bengals have done to improve their defense and to
• 1:08:11
  put them in a position to win next year.
• 1:08:13
  Yeah, I mean, we talked about, I mean it all started with the
• 1:08:15
  trade and Dexter Lawrence is probably the greatest 10 number
• 1:08:21
  first round ten overall pick that has ever played the game at
• 1:08:25
  this stage of his career. So no great, great drafts.
• 1:08:29
  I would like would have liked them to address the linebacker
• 1:08:33
  issue. I think they still will at some
• 1:08:35
  point. I don't know who they're going
• 1:08:36
  to get. If they're going to be
• 1:08:37
  inequality, it's probably going to be somebody gets that's still
• 1:08:40
  a free agent or somebody that gets cut off a roster like a
• 1:08:43
  veteran that gets cut down the road here.
• 1:08:46
  But All in all, not bad. I mean, clearly the message was
• 1:08:51
  we want to beef up the defensive line and and have depth there
• 1:08:55
  and and that's that's what they did.
• 1:08:57
  I mean, you know, with with cash as how coming in as a second
• 1:09:02
  round pick is the SEC defensive player of the year.
• 1:09:06
  So you know, an edge rusher that hopefully will will get some
• 1:09:09
  production there. And then, you know, you go to
• 1:09:12
  Cario Davis at corner out of Washington in the third round.
• 1:09:15
  Secondary is was kind of an issue in the last couple seasons
• 1:09:20
  with the Bengals. So spending the draft pick there
• 1:09:23
  in the third round should should help.
• 1:09:25
  But All in all, not not bad, not bad.
• 1:09:29
  No, and cash is how Cam moved outside linebacker at times so
• 1:09:34
  he could help them, but he's not going to play linebacker all the
• 1:09:37
  time. Like his job is going to be to
• 1:09:38
  rush the quarterback in passing situations.
• 1:09:42
  Takario Davis, dude, 6/4 as a corner.
• 1:09:45
  Like he's going to be one of the longer corners in the league.
• 1:09:49
  They, I think they made some really good picks with the
• 1:09:52
  getting those two centers. Brian Parker played all three
• 1:09:55
  positions at Duke, so he could potentially be a swing tackle,
• 1:09:59
  play some guard, play some centre.
• 1:10:01
  But I, I think other than I'd like to see them go get somebody
• 1:10:06
  like Bobby Wagner, who's a veteran, who's available.
• 1:10:10
  Yeah, who is still productive. I just you need some leadership.
• 1:10:14
  You need a veteran. You need to get a veteran in
• 1:10:16
  there. A guy like you said, Bobby
• 1:10:17
  Wagner, I think would be perfect that can get in there and teach
• 1:10:19
  these young guy. I mean, he's, he's one of the
• 1:10:21
  best linebackers to ever do it. He's won Super Bowls, you know,
• 1:10:25
  like, he knows he knows the game and he can probably, you know,
• 1:10:29
  teach these young guys a thing or two how to play the position
• 1:10:33
  and get them better. And I at the end of the draft,
• 1:10:37
  like I thought they did a really good job like their last pick
• 1:10:39
  get laid in Robinson, the defensive tackle from Navy been
• 1:10:44
  a lot of positives with talking about him.
• 1:10:47
  His dad was a Bengals fan, so they're doing who they chant
• 1:10:51
  after he gets picked. And then the tight end they got
• 1:10:54
  from Texas, Jack Andrews, like everybody's talked about him
• 1:10:57
  being a really a still there late in the draft.
• 1:10:59
  So their draft grades have been around mostly B's and A's from
• 1:11:04
  what I saw. And with all the additions they
• 1:11:08
  made in free agency, you hope that these picks pan out and
• 1:11:12
  you're looking like the franchise just looks like
• 1:11:15
  they're in such a better spot than they've been the last
• 1:11:17
  couple years. And now it's up to Zach Taylor
• 1:11:20
  and the staff and the players to to go get it done because the
• 1:11:22
  front office, other than linebacker has done everything
• 1:11:26
  they said they would do. And if they have one of the best
• 1:11:28
  defensive lines in the league that's going to that does
• 1:11:31
  improve your linebackers gives makes the job easier on them.
• 1:11:36
  They just need to have a 15th ranked defense in the NFL and
• 1:11:41
  win games when they score 30 points.
• 1:11:44
  You can't lose games when you score 30 points.
• 1:11:46
  Yeah, I mean, obviously Jacob Rodriguez was there for the
• 1:11:52
  taking and that's who I really wanted in the second round.
• 1:11:54
  It would fit the need at linebacker.
• 1:11:56
  But the more and more you read about caches, how the more I
• 1:11:59
  seem to like him. And I just didn't think we
• 1:12:01
  needed to go back-to-back drafts with our first pick being a
• 1:12:07
  defensive end, but. But but when you're in, when
• 1:12:11
  you're talking, look, we got to get to the passer, we got to get
• 1:12:14
  to the passer, right? Then why didn't you drive Shamar
• 1:12:16
  Stewart last? That's why would you drive.
• 1:12:18
  You talk about getting to the pastor.
• 1:12:20
  You know who doesn't get to the passer?
• 1:12:21
  Shamar Stewart doesn't get to the but.
• 1:12:23
  But you also, you can't compound a mistake by not picking
• 1:12:26
  somebody else. Like maybe.
• 1:12:28
  And look, Shamar Stewart could have a better year this year.
• 1:12:31
  He's got the traits, just he hasn't had the production at the
• 1:12:34
  college level or the NFL. Can he put it together?
• 1:12:37
  I don't know. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:39
  Right Cat just house the opposite like he has the
• 1:12:41
  numbers. He does have the numbers.
• 1:12:42
  Before we get out of here, we got a couple crazy stories.
• 1:12:49
  We we've talked about what was her Phillies caring, stealing
• 1:12:53
  the ball from from the little kid.
• 1:12:55
  Giants, Julie that took the gloves away, the Patrick Mahomes
• 1:12:58
  gloves. And then we had Phillies Caring.
• 1:12:59
  Phillies Caring is the most popular and recognizable villain
• 1:13:03
  of stealing baseballs. But now we got little little
• 1:13:07
  buddy in a plain white team just going down and taking a ball
• 1:13:12
  from an old man. Amazing with a little buddy.
• 1:13:13
  This was a grown maze. With a little buddy.
• 1:13:15
  This is a big buddy. Big big dude just straight takes
• 1:13:19
  it from him. Like what are we doing?
• 1:13:23
  What, what is the value of these balls?
• 1:13:26
  Like what is the value to that guy?
• 1:13:29
  He didn't give it to a kid. I don't think he was with a kid.
• 1:13:33
  No, he's celebrating. Yeah.
• 1:13:34
  He snatches it out of the old man's hand and celebrates.
• 1:13:39
  Nobody celebrates with them because they all saw what
• 1:13:41
  happened. They're on.
• 1:13:41
  But like, dude, you're a Jackass.
• 1:13:43
  Like what is the value of this ball to this guy?
• 1:13:46
  This 40 year old guy. It's a it's a test to prove
• 1:13:50
  who's a Jackass, who's an idiot, and you, you've.
• 1:13:53
  You've failed. He, I mean, he won Jackass of
• 1:13:55
  the Day, so maybe if that's his goal, then he won.
• 1:13:58
  I don't know. Like, you know, oh dude, like
• 1:14:00
  just looks at him like what the hell are you doing, bro?
• 1:14:02
  Like he was unbelievable. This, this got like it, it's
• 1:14:08
  every year. It's that it has to at some
• 1:14:10
  point. So it's got to stop.
• 1:14:11
  It's got to stop. Whoever gets the ball gets the
• 1:14:14
  ball. And hopefully they give it to a
• 1:14:15
  kid that's, you know, under the age of 18, because that's who
• 1:14:18
  really deserves the ball. Because those, those, those are
• 1:14:20
  the kind of the, those are those where the value lies in, in a,
• 1:14:23
  in a home run ball or a foul ball is it's valuable to a kid
• 1:14:27
  because it's a memory. It's a lifelong memory that that
• 1:14:29
  they're going to have to a 40 year old man, a foul ball off
• 1:14:32
  the bat of John Rodriguez or whoever.
• 1:14:37
  I don't even know. Like what is it?
• 1:14:38
  It has 0 value, 0 value. Dude, it's not even a home run
• 1:14:41
  ball. Like at least Philly's camera
• 1:14:43
  was a home run ball. Like ATJ Friedel, foul ball
• 1:14:47
  $0.00 value. Yes, yes, like what's?
• 1:14:53
  He going to go home and put it on a ticket to work, put it on
• 1:14:55
  his desk. But like, hey, look guys, I got
• 1:14:57
  a foul ball. No, this.
• 1:14:59
  This is the ball I straight took from a 18 year old man.
• 1:15:01
  Was he trying to, was he trying to show off in front of a lady
• 1:15:03
  or something? Like, I don't know well.
• 1:15:06
  That's the opposite. It's not what you should do.
• 1:15:08
  That's the opposite. I.
• 1:15:10
  Mean that's worse than feeding a girl.
• 1:15:12
  We go salsa Ritas. Like even if he gave it to a
• 1:15:15
  kid, like you still don't just take a ball from a from a old
• 1:15:17
  man to give it to a kid. No, you don't do You don't take
• 1:15:20
  a ball from anybody. Yeah.
• 1:15:22
  Anybody quit? This.
• 1:15:24
  Got to quit. And then we got to do it in
• 1:15:26
  California. That buys $34,000 worth of Legos
• 1:15:32
  overtime, takes them home, opens them up, takes the Legos out,
• 1:15:38
  puts dry pasta, like I don't know what kind of noodles he's
• 1:15:42
  using, but makes it feel like there's Legos back in it, seals
• 1:15:47
  it back up and then takes it to Target, gets his money back.
• 1:15:52
  And he did this over 70 occasions and returned over
• 1:15:57
  $34,000 worth of Legos. It's.
• 1:15:59
  Actually kind of genius like. Well, it's a genius.
• 1:16:02
  If you stop at maybe $5000 and doing this 10 times, yeah, like
• 1:16:08
  you're going to get caught. Once you get a little greedy,
• 1:16:10
  you did get a little greedy. But you could.
• 1:16:12
  He could have got away with it if he wasn't so excessive.
• 1:16:15
  With it, how did how did he get caught?
• 1:16:18
  I just, they caught him. I think he was doing it at
• 1:16:21
  targets over and over. They caught when they saw him on
• 1:16:23
  the cameras and OK. I mean, it's pretty genius to be
• 1:16:27
  honest with you. Like if you're, I'm, I'm
• 1:16:28
  guessing, did he complete the the setup of the Legos?
• 1:16:32
  Like did he buy a pirate ship and complete it and put the put
• 1:16:35
  the pasta in there and take it back?
• 1:16:36
  Like did he make a castle or something out of these things?
• 1:16:39
  Like does he have like a whole Lego land at his house that he's
• 1:16:42
  just got all these sculptures laying around?
• 1:16:44
  But it's got maybe not Jesus, to be honest with you.
• 1:16:49
  Yeah, you're right. He got a little too greedy here.
• 1:16:51
  Got a little too greedy. Like what?
• 1:16:54
  How? What number could he have got
• 1:16:55
  away with this? I think once you hit double
• 1:16:58
  digits, you got to stop, right? I think once you hit the 10
• 1:17:02
  grand, I think that's enough. Sir, at least like you see that
• 1:17:05
  this is working and then you're like, all right, let's go hit
• 1:17:08
  another state. Did he do it multiple states or
• 1:17:12
  was it just all the same area? I think it was mostly in in
• 1:17:15
  California. Like in the same region?
• 1:17:17
  Because then that would be really stupid, Yeah.
• 1:17:19
  Like you got to go, yeah, you got to go across state lines or
• 1:17:22
  a different county or different part of the state or something.
• 1:17:27
  The Orange County Police Department.
• 1:17:29
  This was their message. If your master plan involves
• 1:17:31
  swapping Legos for linguine, we can promise your plan will be
• 1:17:36
  cooked al dente. That's cute, but it took them
• 1:17:41
  too long. It took them a while to figure
• 1:17:42
  it out. I think this guy, this guy, and
• 1:17:45
  he ended up losing in the long run, but he he had the one up on
• 1:17:48
  him for a long time. And yeah.
• 1:17:51
  You do wonder what he was doing with all these Legos like once
• 1:17:53
  he had them, like was he playing with them?
• 1:17:55
  Was he selling them on eBay? What?
• 1:17:56
  What was he doing with? I'm I'm, I'm curious how like if
• 1:18:00
  you go with it, if, if they'd have a search warrant for his
• 1:18:02
  house and they go in, they got to find a whole Lego land in
• 1:18:05
  there pirate ships and he's in. He's in.
• 1:18:11
  What else? Can we make flower pots out of
• 1:18:13
  Lego? You can make anything out of
• 1:18:14
  legos and maybe a globe Harry Potter world or some shit like I
• 1:18:18
  don't. Know.
• 1:18:19
  Yeah, pretty much. You can make anything with
• 1:18:20
  Legos. I think they've pretty much got
• 1:18:22
  the market covered. Yeah, but dude's in jail and
• 1:18:26
  he's like, what you do to get in here?
• 1:18:29
  I've put Ling dry linguine and Lego boxes.
• 1:18:33
  It took it back to Target. And before we.
• 1:18:35
  Get out of here. I did a little drinking.
• 1:18:37
  Yesterday at the track, I mean, it was all you can eat and
• 1:18:39
  drink. Yeah, good time.
• 1:18:41
  Did you know? Like if if we got.
• 1:18:42
  Real hammered and like fell. That we could sue Churchill
• 1:18:45
  Downs and get like $300,000 because this lady on a Carnival
• 1:18:50
  cruise line, yeah, did 15 tequila shots, goodness.
• 1:18:55
  And evidently fell. Sued Carnival.
• 1:18:58
  Carnival Cruises for $300,000 and one.
• 1:19:02
  So she got hammered, had a great night, took it a little too far
• 1:19:07
  and then made 300K doesn't that? Set a precedent like yeah, no.
• 1:19:14
  It does. It does because now.
• 1:19:16
  Yeah, a lot of people are going to start falling on purpose.
• 1:19:18
  They're going to start getting hammered on purpose, which a lot
• 1:19:20
  of people do because it's fun, and then they're going to start
• 1:19:24
  falling on purpose. What you don't always do it on?
• 1:19:27
  Purpose it just had. It just happens truly.
• 1:19:31
  But yes it does. It sets a bad.
• 1:19:32
  Precedent. It sets a bad precedent.
• 1:19:35
  Like I guarantee you, somebody fell.
• 1:19:37
  Yesterday at the track, because they had had many met juleps, I
• 1:19:42
  could think of 1. Luckily it wasn't any of our
• 1:19:43
  group, but I guarantee you somebody.
• 1:19:45
  Fell. I could think of one person that
• 1:19:46
  did do what I. Had no one person that did not
• 1:19:50
  me. Yeah.
• 1:19:53
  But now that they see that like you.
• 1:19:57
  Like you. Could sue them for 300K.
• 1:20:01
  I mean, like lawsuits have gotten out of hand.
• 1:20:02
  Like this is like the the McDonald's.
• 1:20:04
  Coffee. The girl drank it because the
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  coffee was hot and she sued McDonald's and won $1,000,000 or
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  whatever it was. It's like people sue for the
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  most outrageous things these these days and for some reason
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  and somehow they mostly win. Like people that do stupid
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  things get paid money just because they sue and they think
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  it's somebody else's fault. Like 13 tequila shots.
• 1:20:27
  Is is excessive? 1515 is excessive.
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  And if she went to the same bartender over and over and
• 1:20:33
  over, then yeah, it might be that bartender's fault.
• 1:20:35
  You should be serving somebody 15 tequila shots.
• 1:20:38
  But if she's going in the cruise ship, the cruise ship's big.
• 1:20:40
  There's probably multiple bars in this cruise ship.
• 1:20:42
  If she's going bar hopping and she's getting a tequila shot
• 1:20:45
  here and it's Aquila shot there and it's Aquila shot there.
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  I mean, these bartenders don't know where from anything.
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  They here you go. It's the first time I served
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  you. So it's not their fault.
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  Like they got all the surveillance cameras of her.
• 1:20:58
  At the bar just ripping tequila shot after tequila shot.
• 1:21:02
  I do think she moved around and did go to different bars.
• 1:21:05
  I can't blame the bartenders in this situation, but she's also.
• 1:21:09
  Like it's, I don't know if it was like TMZ.
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  Or extra or one of these. But they actually interviewed
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  her and like, she's playing the victim.
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  Like, like you are not the victim.
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  And also, how do we know that her friends?
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  And I guarantee you she didn't order all 15.
• 1:21:23
  Herself, she probably was. With a group of friends and
• 1:21:26
  they're like, let's do shots. So some guy, your girl goes up,
• 1:21:29
  gets the group around the shots, then the next person gets around
• 1:21:31
  the shots. So no, she probably wasn't even
• 1:21:34
  the one that ordered all these shots.
• 1:21:35
  So it's there's nobody to blame the her she's at fault.
• 1:21:38
  She needs to take responsibility for this.
• 1:21:40
  And what's what's going to end up happening is those people
• 1:21:42
  that book Carnival cruises are going to end up getting screwed
• 1:21:44
  now because now they're going to probably start limiting your
• 1:21:46
  drink numbers. It's like your all inclusive
• 1:21:49
  drink packages now includes 5 drink tickets.
• 1:21:52
  So then you're going to be like, well Dang, my 5 Bud Lights right
• 1:21:55
  now in an hour, what am I going to do the rest of the day?
• 1:21:58
  And some of us can handle our alcohol.
• 1:22:00
  Some. Can some of us can't?
• 1:22:01
  Yeah. This woman.
• 1:22:03
  Clearly can't and now others have to suffer for her
• 1:22:06
  stupidity. 300K There's no way. That that's $300,000 in damages,
• 1:22:12
  No, maybe if anything your ticket.
• 1:22:15
  Price back for Carnival. Whatever it cost, I I think
• 1:22:18
  that's excessive. I hate it.
• 1:22:20
  I hate her. I hate.
• 1:22:21
  Her. I hate it.
• 1:22:23
  It's stupid. I mean, I wouldn't want to
• 1:22:26
  embarrass myself and go on that show.
• 1:22:28
  And everybody to see my face that I'm crying because I did 15
• 1:22:31
  tequila shots and I got so hammered that I fell.
• 1:22:35
  And they need to give me money. I had fun on a cruise ship.
• 1:22:39
  And I fell and hurt my knee 300,000 three $100,000.
• 1:22:46
  Hate it, I hate her. I don't.
• 1:22:47
  I haven't seen. Her, but I hate her.
• 1:22:49
  I can already, I can already tell you so I mean, there's
• 1:22:53
  going to be a lot of drinking. At Churchill this week.
• 1:22:56
  Multiple people are going to fall after seeing that.
• 1:23:01
  Pretty good chance we might see a lawsuit against Churchill.
• 1:23:04
  That could happen. Can I cuss you out before?
• 1:23:08
  We leave. Yeah, let's go.
• 1:23:10
  So first of all, appreciate you having us.
• 1:23:12
  Over for the. Pre 5 O Tuesday brunch slash pre
• 1:23:18
  drinking activities before we went to the track yesterday.
• 1:23:20
  Always appreciate your hospitality and thank you for
• 1:23:23
  not serving us week old salsa Ritas.
• 1:23:25
  You know, we had I mean we did this last week.
• 1:23:27
  We're not going to do it again. We had we had fresh bagels.
• 1:23:29
  From from the Panera Bread. And, and, you know, some chicken
• 1:23:32
  minis and some doughnuts, etcetera.
• 1:23:34
  Two things I need to cut you out on.
• 1:23:36
  First of all, I'll go to get a cup out of your cupboard that I
• 1:23:39
  think is clean and it is the most dusty, dirty cup I've ever
• 1:23:43
  seen. A, what are we doing with our
• 1:23:45
  cups in the house? And B, well, we'll start there.
• 1:23:49
  What? Are we doing with these cups in?
• 1:23:50
  The house, well, I told you I very rarely go to the second.
• 1:23:54
  Or third level in my cabinets as as a 410 human.
• 1:23:58
  I do have a little step stool. I try not to use it if I don't
• 1:24:01
  have to. The cups that I'm using are
• 1:24:03
  primarily going to be on that first level.
• 1:24:07
  I second level on occasion. Third level is like, bro, you're
• 1:24:11
  getting up there. Once.
• 1:24:13
  Every couple of years this was second level cup, though.
• 1:24:16
  This was second level cup. This is where your guests get
• 1:24:19
  their cups from. How back?
• 1:24:20
  How back in the back was it? It was in the front it.
• 1:24:22
  Was the first cup I grabbed. OK, I we'll, we'll get it
• 1:24:26
  cleaned. OK, we'll.
• 1:24:27
  We'll, we'll clean that. And then we were talking last
• 1:24:29
  week about The Who. Would eat the week old
• 1:24:31
  salsaritas and you know, we said we're not going to get back into
• 1:24:34
  that, but I open your refrigerator and you've got four
• 1:24:36
  day old frozen pizza that's just sitting there uncovered in the
• 1:24:40
  fridge. So once again, not four days
• 1:24:43
  old. You was four days old.
• 1:24:46
  I ate it on. I made it on.
• 1:24:47
  Sunday. Next Wednesday, so Sunday.
• 1:24:49
  Monday. Tuesday is it?
• 1:24:50
  Is it there today? Yeah, I did.
• 1:24:53
  I wasn't in days. Yeah, so.
• 1:24:55
  You got four day old pizza and not only.
• 1:24:57
  Do you have 4 day old frozen pizza?
• 1:24:59
  Not just like take out Domino's Pizza?
• 1:25:01
  I can understand maybe a four day old Domino's Pizza, but
• 1:25:04
  frozen Digiorno pizza or whatever Red Baron pizza.
• 1:25:09
  I appreciate a good Red Baron pizza.
• 1:25:11
  You don't even have it covered. It's just sitting there bare out
• 1:25:14
  in the in the in the fridge. I mean, it's on a plate.
• 1:25:16
  It's not just sitting there on the shelf.
• 1:25:18
  It's on a plate. My God, we got to.
• 1:25:21
  We got to get your eating habits under.
• 1:25:22
  Control here it. I I guess like it's still in the
• 1:25:28
  fridge like. It's not like it's on a plate in
• 1:25:30
  the fridge. Put some Saran wrap on it to
• 1:25:33
  keep it a little more fresh or something.
• 1:25:35
  Put it in the Tupperware. At this point, I ain't gonna
• 1:25:38
  lie, it's probably getting thrown away.
• 1:25:39
  I'm not going to eat. It so I would hope so.
• 1:25:43
  Yeah, and the only thing your fridge was.
• 1:25:45
  There only thing in your fridge. Robiotic soda and four day old
• 1:25:50
  frozen pizza. Some cheese, right?
• 1:25:53
  Yeah, gotta get you to get to the.
• 1:25:54
  Grocery store, my guy. There were apples.
• 1:25:57
  There's apples in there, OK. There's that Apple a day keeps.
• 1:26:01
  The doctor away. Like we talked about what's in
• 1:26:03
  Juice's lunch pail, we're going to start playing.
• 1:26:05
  What's in Nick's fridge? Datata datata.
• 1:26:09
  What's in? Juice's lunch pail.
• 1:26:12
  That's one thing we got to do. We got to start doing the
• 1:26:14
  jingles on the show We do have. I think we need a Jingle for
• 1:26:17
  what's What would Joe do? We do not have.
• 1:26:18
  What would Joe do this week? We do have a catalog.
• 1:26:23
  You. Going to track one more day this
• 1:26:24
  week. We'll be there.
• 1:26:25
  Friday. Yeah, Friday for Oaks.
• 1:26:27
  I have. Not looked at the Oaks race yet
• 1:26:29
  to see who the favourites and all that are been studying on
• 1:26:33
  the Derby, but we'll we'll dive into the Oaks here probably
• 1:26:35
  tomorrow or early Friday. Yeah, it was kind of sexist on
• 1:26:38
  our part to only talk Derby, not.
• 1:26:40
  Not getting oaks, but we we we talked Derby for a good.
• 1:26:44
  Hour as it would be, I got to. Admit I'm a little surprised
• 1:26:46
  that your Derby horse is not the Puma.
• 1:26:48
  Since you're a big Puma guy, you got the Puma hat on today.
• 1:26:50
  You're Ricky Fowler, Ricky Fowler's number one fan.
• 1:26:55
  Well, not only is this a Puma hat.
• 1:26:58
  It's a Derby Puma hat. And you're still not on Puma?
• 1:27:00
  Yeah, we got the little horse I like.
• 1:27:02
  The little Mint. Yeah, I like that.
• 1:27:04
  I see that that's that's nice. But yet you're still not on the
• 1:27:08
  Puma. He he's, he'll be in my supers
• 1:27:12
  and. My tries I I just the
• 1:27:15
  commandment man, I get it. So we'll we'll see who I need to
• 1:27:23
  write. Down our picks we'll see who
• 1:27:24
  does better and then got I got Jonah's birthday party on on
• 1:27:31
  Derby day. We're doing that again.
• 1:27:33
  Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad you're going to make it
• 1:27:35
  to that to support your nephew since.
• 1:27:36
  You didn't support him at the track meet that I was at
• 1:27:39
  yesterday. Saw your sister and Hartford and
• 1:27:44
  Jonah and Bellamy. Bellamy was running.
• 1:27:47
  Yeah, Bellamy was running. So where were they?
• 1:27:49
  We had a the JCPS championships at Eastern High School.
• 1:27:56
  How'd they, how'd everybody do? As a team, we finished.
• 1:28:00
  Totally finished. Totally, girls. 2nd and 3rd
• 1:28:02
  grade girls finished fifth out of 10th, but it won first place
• 1:28:05
  on the 4 by 400 relay, so she's got a gold medal, gold medal for
• 1:28:09
  that. Harper finished 11th in the 100m
• 1:28:14
  or 100 meter Sprint. So she said set a personal best
• 1:28:17
  time there and a personal best time in the 400 but did not
• 1:28:20
  medal. So we get walked away with 1
• 1:28:22
  gold medal and team did overall team did pretty good.
• 1:28:27
  Glad to hear that. They're they're keeping you
• 1:28:30
  pretty. Busy right now, had to leave the
• 1:28:33
  track but. Early to get over there.
• 1:28:36
  Couldn't participate in post festivities.
• 1:28:40
  Post track shenanigans are some of my favorite shenanigans.
• 1:28:43
  I mean, we went to Peaks and then we went to Hoops.
• 1:28:47
  It's it was a long day, long day, it.
• 1:28:49
  Was long. Did you make it to work?
• 1:28:50
  On time this morning I. Did.
• 1:28:53
  Yeah, we were good. I work from home.
• 1:28:55
  Nobody, I don't think anybody went in the office this week.
• 1:28:59
  Get a real job. It's Derby week, man.
• 1:29:03
  You don't work, You don't work. Derby week in this city.
• 1:29:08
  But excited. For the for the races this week,
• 1:29:10
  hopefully. I'll turn the corner and stop
• 1:29:13
  start winning. Are you betting all the bet
• 1:29:14
  backs? Are you only betting when you're
• 1:29:16
  there? I did not bet today I.
• 1:29:19
  Might look at it tomorrow. Love the bet backs, $10 Bet
• 1:29:23
  backs, yeah. I mean, and if you're.
• 1:29:25
  Like if you're listening, you're not doing.
• 1:29:26
  That on we're not sponsored by twin Spires, but your horse
• 1:29:30
  finishes second or third, you get your money back.
• 1:29:31
  It's one of the better deals in betting and I still can't win
• 1:29:35
  any money. But just a reminder, subscribe
• 1:29:36
  to the height differential, however you listen to pods rate
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• 1:29:46
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  platforms. Happy Derby week to everybody.
• 1:29:52
  Thanks to Matt for coming on for the how tall was he 5657?
• 1:29:57
  He was in the middle 5878. I don't.
• 1:30:00
  Know I can't even remember what he said an hour and a half ago,
• 1:30:03
  but. For the 5-6 to 58, Matt, For the
• 1:30:07
  66, Neil, I'm the 410, Nick, everybody enjoyed every week.
• 1:30:11
  We will talk to you next week to wrap it up.
• 1:30:14
  We'll see you then you give it to me.
• 1:30:24
  Should have talked about my eagle.
• 1:30:27
  But. Dude, I was pretty sick bro.
• 1:30:32
  And like I said yesterday, I. Was more impressed with the putt
• 1:30:34
  almost in the shot. You can.
• 1:30:35
  Get lucky with that shot a little bit.
• 1:30:39
  But the putt wasn't make. That the putt wasn't.
• 1:30:43
  Super long. It's still tough, though, to
• 1:30:46
  make it. I mean, I my birdie putt on that
• 1:30:49
  part three, I wasn't even close with it.
• 1:30:51
  Yeah, and mine was shorter than. Yours wasn't.
• 1:30:55
  It Yeah. Yeah, for sure I suck right now.