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She'd Never Been West of the Mississippi. So She Moved To LA. · Breaking The Meta

• Mike Winson: Hello everyone, welcome to Breaking the Meadow. My name is Mike Winston. Today we are sitting down with the star of so many amazing shows, not least of which dumped by my cheater, spoiled by a billionaire. Oops, my junkyard husband is a billionaire, move to the countryside, marry a billionaire, pregnant after one night, spoiled by four billionaires. You you just you really pick up all the billionaires. Her name is Abigail Fawn. Thank you so much for being here. Abigail Fawn: thank you. Yeah, you know, me and the billionaires, that that run of titles there was really nice. The billionaires were run Mike Winson: Yeah, yeah. I was looking through the list. I'm like, there's I I'm I'm sensing some consistency through yeah, some themes. Abigail Fawn: A theme? Yeah, yeah. Mike Winson: the other theme that's interesting is in two of them you have triplets in both of them. Abigail Fawn: It happens to the best of us, you know. It's just like something that like no, you know. Mike Winson: D what what does it feel like knowing that that you that you get picked for triplet shows? Abigail Fawn: You know, I just wonder if it's something about my my vibe or or my appearance. I just I just wanna know what is the tip off point. Like is it the shape of my nose or something? Like Mike Winson: Yeah. I will say one of your one of the ones that you had triplets in is probably my favorite vertical of all the ones that I've seen. And it's the pregnant after one night spoiled by four billionaires. It is so funny. The the guys that play all the the dads and grandfathers, you get Abigail Fawn: That one's so funny. I love that one. Yeah. Yeah. Mike Winson: you must have been cracking up like the whole time because Abigail Fawn: yeah. They're great. And they were like cracking jokes between set and stuff. But yeah, that one like the production team was great, the crew's great, director's great, like cast Mike Winson: Yeah. Abigail Fawn: great. Like that one was just so much fun to film. Yeah. Mike Winson: Yeah. And we'll go into it a little bit more, but I just wanted to let you know that that one I've watched that one a few times because Abigail Fawn: Yeah. Mike Winson: I just crack up watching it. It's so funny. But Abigail Fawn: I'm so glad. Mike Winson: I want to start off learning a little bit about you and how you got into doing it, how doing verticals because you grew up in East Tennessee, Abigail Fawn: Mm-hmm. Mike Winson: which again we'll talk about another one that I enjoyed where you get to bring that southern bell out very much so, Abigail Fawn: Mm-hmm. Mike Winson: but and as someone who now lives in North Car North Kakalaki, I'm actually pretty close to to East Tennessee now. But Abigail Fawn: Yeah, it Mike Winson: but yes, so how did you go from East Tennessee to to LA and verticals? How did that process happen? Abigail Fawn: I mean both my parents are musicians and I've always kind of been on stage. And so I started in theater, like musical theater stuff, because I was a singer and a dancer, and then I was just acting because that's what you have to do. If you want to sing and dance off stage, you also need to act. Mike Winson: Yeah. Yep. Abigail Fawn: and so I was doing that, and it was like, Wait, I kinda like acting, and then I started auditioning for film stuff and commercial stuff. And then I was just I was working local a lot of places. So I was working in like in Atlanta and in Nashville and in Asheville, North Carolina. Mike Winson: Yes. Abigail Fawn: And then but I was living in East Tennessee, so that's like central to all those places and I was just driving all the time and I was like, I wish I could drive just like a little less to be able to work. and then I was thinking about it and was like I had never even been west of the Mississippi River and so I'd Mike Winson: Hmm. Abigail Fawn: spent all my life on the East Coast and I was like, you know what, I think I really wanna go to Los Angeles and my parents were like You've never even been out west. Like how do you even know that? Like you could hate it out there. And I was like, You're so right. But to me it felt like a now or never kind of moment because Mike Winson: Yeah. Abigail Fawn: I had nothing that was like tying me too much to Tennessee. Like I had my family and I still go visit them. But nothing else was like making me stay in Tennessee. So it was like, I'm gonna go to California and if I try and I fail, I can always come back to Tennessee and do something else. Mike Winson: That's true. Abigail Fawn: But I knew I needed to try, because I think I would have regretted it had I never tried. Mike Winson: So you said both of your parents were in music. What what does that mean? Like w in what way? Yeah. In what in what way were they in music? Abigail Fawn: Yeah. Like what do they do? Yeah, so they actually met in a a high school choir. They didn't go to the same high school, but there's like state, you know, like advanced choirs. and so they met there and then they both went to the same school for music. And then my mom is an elementary s elementary school music teacher, with like choirs and stuff with like the children Mike Winson: Yeah. Abigail Fawn: like I think it's four through sixth grade is what she teaches right now. And then my dad, He's a worship pastor. so he leads the music in church. Mike Winson: Okay, cool. That's really cool. I will say, as I was I told you because because you've we've gotten to know each other a little bit because you've been going live a lot. I told you I was doing researching, and Abigail Fawn: yes. Mike Winson: so you are not just you you are an actor, you are an amazing, amazing singer, you are a ballerina, Abigail Fawn: Thank you. Mike Winson: and I saw a video of you tap dancing. Do you like tap dancing? Is that something you still like do? Or is that Abigail Fawn: Yes. Yes. I do tap dance. Mike Winson: just something you did and you really haven't done much of it? Abigail Fawn: Good question. I still do tap, not all the time. but one of my neighbors, I'm friends with her, and we've gone to a couple of tap classes together, which has been fun. But the whole reason that I can tap dance is here's classic Tennessee moment. When I was young, like third grade, third grade, fourth grade, I did clogging. I was a competition clogger. and so Mike Winson: Really? Abigail Fawn: yes. So so that's the first style of dance I ever did was clogging. well, ballet when I was like two, but who remembers that at the end of the Mike Winson: Yeah. Right. Abigail Fawn: day? so then clogging, I was a competition clogger, which is the white shoes with the double tap on them. So tap shoes Mike Winson: Yeah. Abigail Fawn: have two taps, clogging shoes have four taps. and so yeah, I did that and then I transitioned to tap. But my roots, Mike Winson: Wow. That's really cool. Abigail Fawn: my deep Tennessee roots, clog into country music, you know. Mike Winson: Gotta have those deep Tennessee roots. so what had you done or even heard of verticals before you went to LA? Abigail Fawn: No, I I I had not done one. I had auditioned for what I think was one, but in like the early days, like so that's early twenty twenty three when I was still living in Tennessee, I think I got a couple auditions for them, but I wasn't living in LA, so of course they were never they never wanted to work with me because especially in the beginning days, like, yeah yeah yeah. Mike Winson: Right. They didn't want to pay or anything for you to come and yeah. Abigail Fawn: Yeah. So I had definitely like seen them, but I didn't really understand. but yeah, like three months after I moved here I did my first one and then I was did them full time for like two years. Yeah. Mike Winson: Yeah, and you've been and you've been in in many, many of them. So what what Abigail Fawn: Yes. Mike Winson: was the experience like on your first vertical for you? Abigail Fawn: it was good. It was something different. My very first one I wasn't a lead on. I did my first lead October twenty twenty four, but I did my first Mike Winson: Okay. Abigail Fawn: vertical in March twenty twenty four. and I was just I was playing like the lead guy's sister. I come in for like five scenes maybe. But then I of course I pass out in the bathroom, obviously. Mike Winson: Yeah. Of course. Who doesn't? Abigail Fawn: who doesn't? so yeah, it was definitely a a shift. especially from the short film and commercial work that I've been doing before. And especially different from theater, but you know. whereas just the common thread with verticals that you're doing so many pages a day and it's so much faster than other sets. I think Mike Winson: Mm-hmm. Abigail Fawn: that was probably the biggest shock to me. and then of course suddenly being in a new state, in a new city, on set with fifty people that I didn't know at all. I was just it was like this sudden like what am I like why what am I doing here? Like like Mike Winson: Yeah. Abigail Fawn: yeah, yeah. Mike Winson: so obviously one of the other things that are pretty common in a lot of verticals are intimacy scenes. Abigail Fawn: Mm-hmm. Mike Winson: Had you had experience with them before, or was this was like were you kind of thrown into the deep end kind of a thing? Abigail Fawn: definitely had them on stage. so growing up I played the the ingenue a lot in like theater in high school and college. So I had definitely had my fair of stage kisses and intimacy rehearsals and stuff. On verticals it goes a little further sometimes. I think just the intimacy setting of actually filming like in a bedroom rather than like on stage in front of like people is the biggest shock. But I wasn't too thrown by it 'cause like I said I had been in like love scenes before, but it definitely is different. Yeah. Mike Winson: Yeah. you've had you've been a part you've been lead in a lot of stuff, especially lately. Is there Abigail Fawn: Mm. Mike Winson: anything that you haven't gotten to do yet that you really wish like you hope someday to get to do? Like if you could snap your fingers and say, I want this kind of this kind of part? Abigail Fawn: Like in a vertical? Mike Winson: Yeah. Abigail Fawn: Yeah. like I want to sing and dance in one. Like that would be so much fun. Mike Winson: That would be so good. That would be so good. Abigail Fawn: Yeah, to like the concept of going to like a dance rehearsal for a vertical or like a a music rehearsal for a vertical, like that's so fun. Like I would I Mike Winson: Yeah. Abigail Fawn: would love to do something like that. Mike Winson: Yeah. just I was thinking about that question, but while I was asking it, it made me think so your dad was a worship pastor and I still is. What Abigail Fawn: He still is, yeah. Mm-hmm. Mike Winson: what was it what what was their perspective on you doing verticals, especially considering the stuff that happens in some of these, like Have they watched your stuff and what do they think of it? Abigail Fawn: I've told them not to, but my Mike Winson: Okay. Abigail Fawn: mom and my grandmother have watched a few anyway. Mike Winson: Yeah. Abigail Fawn: which is fine. But yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, you know, it's it's different from anything I'd done before, for sure. Mike Winson: Yeah. Abigail Fawn: But they trust me and they know that it's Mike Winson: Sure. Abigail Fawn: the character and it's not me. and I try not to do the super scandalous ones. So at the Mike Winson: Yeah. Abigail Fawn: end of the day it's it's been it's been okay. You know, it hasn't there's hasn't been a big ruckus with that. Mike Winson: Okay, so I want I want to go to let's go with move to the countryside, marry a billionaire, where you got to you got Abigail Fawn: Great. Mike Winson: to bring your southern your southern bell out. Abigail Fawn: so much fun. Yeah. Mike Winson: Did when you when you got that part, was that part Abigail Fawn: Mm. Mike Winson: of the plan? Was like was that a whole like were you supposed to be Southern Bell from the start or did that something you kinda added in? Abigail Fawn: Well, okay, so when I got the audition for it and I saw countryside, immediately I was like s yeah, sold. Like, yeah. And so I I did the audition with the accent. Mike Winson: Okay. Abigail Fawn: Not thinking anything of it. Which is something I I can talk about in a second. I do that a lot where I'll just decide something and then it's not no one wanted me to do that, especially with accents for no reason. But so Mike Winson: Right. Abigail Fawn: for that one, I did the country accent and then I was in I did chemistry reads for it. So I was with the whole team and everything. And then I was talking to the director before we started, and I was Do you want me to do like the accent I did in my audition for this like Kim Reed or whatever? And he was like, just do whatever you feel is right. do do whatever voice you want. And he's he's great. but I was like, okay, so then I just kept doing it, and then I got it and I just kept doing it. And I thought maybe other people in the show would use an accent, but no, it was just me. Mike Winson: No, it was just you. Abigail Fawn: And I think that's so fun. Mike Winson: Yeah. Abigail Fawn: 'cause I had great fun with it. yeah, there were only Mike Winson: It looked like you did. Abigail Fawn: thank you. There were like a couple of scenes where like short scenes where I would do it and I'd be like, Wait, cut, I'm not using an accent. Like we have to start Mike Winson: Yes. Abigail Fawn: over, we can't use that. but yeah, 'cause once you establish it you gotta carry through. But yeah. Mike Winson: Did you did you have a did you have a southern accent in Tennessee? Is that something you you grew up with and you had to get out of? Abigail Fawn: think so. Not not extremely. some of my family does and a lot of people I went to school with definitely do. Mike Winson: Yeah. Abigail Fawn: but I don't think I I do. Or maybe I do and I just don't hear it. but I don't think I would think that Okay. Mike Winson: Well, you certainly don't now. I I would never have guessed that you were from the South. Abigail Fawn: Okay, yeah. Mike Winson: but you could tell watching that that you lived there and you knew exactly Abigail Fawn: Yeah. Mike Winson: because you you you had the intonation and you used the words in the exact right places. It wasn't there was no question Abigail Fawn: Yeah. Mike Winson: in my mind you grew up because when I found out you grew up in Tennessee, I was like, Yep, makes sense. Totally get it. It it's really Abigail Fawn: Yeah. Yeah. It's a speed of it too. Mike Winson: Yeah, it's really interesting we when with people that do that because I interviewed Mary Foster. I don't know if you know her, but she's from New Jersey and she did a New York accent one and we were talking about that. I grew up Abigail Fawn: Let's Mike Winson: in Massachusetts, right near Boston, and I've got no accent either, and I never grew Abigail Fawn: Cool. Mike Winson: up with it. But it's always funny to come out with it because I've been around it and stuff like that. So it's always it's always interesting to see people get to use their the stuff they grew up with. But Abigail Fawn: Yeah. Mike Winson: Never really have it. Abigail Fawn: Yeah. No super fun. 'Cause I'm from like Appalachia Valley area. So well Mike Winson: That's crazy that you didn't come out with an accent living in Appalachia. Abigail Fawn: No, the Valley part, not in the mountains, but like, you know where like Dolly Parton's hometown is Mike Winson: Yeah. Abigail Fawn: like where I'm from. So it's like R E P Dolly Parton, I love her. Yeah. I cried. I cried. Yeah. Mike Winson: I was about to say how did is you dead? Abigail Fawn: Yeah. She felt like a third grandmother, you know? It's like she I sh Yes, yes. Mike Winson: She was everyone's grandmother, let's be fair. Abigail Fawn: I love them. But yeah, yeah. I I think the speed of it is something that really helps that like Appalachian style accent 'cause Mike Winson: Yeah. Abigail Fawn: it's they talk so fast. Mike Winson: Yep. Yep. what was a scene that that you would that was just like that you would you would consider like your favorite scene you've ever done? Like something that was just so funny or so much fun that you're just like, it's the one you think about. Abigail Fawn: Whoa. Hard question. my favorite scene? I'm only getting bad ones that are coming to mind. I don't want to talk about one where I got beat up. Whoa. Yeah. Mike Winson: Yeah, but that one happens all the time. Like those kind of things happen all the time. Too much. Abigail Fawn: Yeah. Maybe no, it's because they're just where I'm suffering. That's what's coming to mind right now. but but I do remember one time in sorody haze the wrong girl, which is on Drama Box. It's there's no romance in that one, it's just more of a I'm getting beat up LOL. but I remember there's one scene where I have to like crawl on glass. but like okay, but like the glass we're using obviously it's not real glass, so it's like squishy plastic glass, but we're like outside shooting it on a tarp. And so then it it's just like it's like me on the squishy glass, but I have to be there like for a long time. So I'm just like laying in the grass. It's like on a tarp on the glass. And it's just like I don't know. It's just like like a fond memory. 'Cause I just really love that team. Like the our producer, our director, Mike Winson: Just yeah. Hmm. Abigail Fawn: they were just so nice and they were really trying to make sure I felt comfortable the whole time. Mike Winson: Yeah. Abigail Fawn: And it was just so it's just a funny I just have such a memory of that day. Mike Winson: Yeah. so it does bring up something interesting. one of the reasons that I started doing all of this, so Abigail Fawn: Yeah. Mike Winson: I interviewed the first I'm kind of new to the vertical scene. I actually got introduced to it because I don't know if you know Lawson Grayson. She she started a production company to Abigail Fawn: Mm-hmm. Mike Winson: to kind of battle AI and I got introduced to her on that side of it because the idea of talking about AI and things like that is is was big in in this in this community and stuff. And through watching her verticals preparing for that, I was like, I just started watching more verticals and more verticals, and now I've got to in to meet a bunch of you. There are some sketchy things in in in verticals. there are some really there's there's a lot of violence unfortunately there's a lot of horrible treatment especially of women in in verticals is that something that you struggle with when when looking for work because obviously you need to find work you need to you need to do stuff but There's also at least I mean, I can imagine at least with me, it would be it would be difficult to say yes to something that is encouraging, something that you may not want to encourage, especially as a woman in the field. Abigail Fawn: Yeah, it's a good question. I mean, when I do see a script that's really like heavy violent or anything like that, I I just try to ensure that everyone's kind of on the same page of how we're gonna shoot it, like what we really want it to look like and and it to come across as. but for the most part I understand that the verticals are really a numbers game, for the companies a lot of the time. So they think that this is gonna be eye-catching and it's gonna be like what people wanna see. so I get it like on that side. But at the same time, like there was a while where I was doing like three a month. and when you're getting beat up every single day, it like it re on f like it makes you just like feel bad. Yes. Mike Winson: gotta be ex yeah, I was about to say that's gotta be exhausting mentally. Abigail Fawn: Yeah, so it's like yeah, it was just kind of figuring out like my personal balance with that, but then also as I was saying, like just making sure everyone on the team, either like the director through producer or or whoever, just we understand like it's written this way, like how do we wanna shoot it, like what Mike Winson: Yeah. Abigail Fawn: is this really gonna look like and stuff like that. Yeah. Mike Winson: Okay. So and we we'll probably end up coming back, but I do want to make sure that I talk about so you are also a singer and Abigail Fawn: Mm-hmm. Mike Winson: in twenty twenty five you released Fawn. Abigail Fawn: Yeah. Mike Winson: Do you want to talk about Fawn and what it's about and stuff like that? Because I would love to let people know and hopefully get some more people to your music too. Abigail Fawn: Yeah. thanks. Yeah, yeah. yeah, Fawn is kind of I think I'm a very anxious person and then also a very like avoidant kind of person. And that's Mike Winson: Mm. Abigail Fawn: also why I chose the stage name of Fawn, because it's like it's so like I feel like a deer in the headlights is how I feel most of the time. Mike Winson: Yeah. Abigail Fawn: because they just stand they stand there for a while and then they run away. And that's like I feel like that's what I do. I s I'm scared and I stay I freeze. And then I'll just run away. They don't go talk to the car and be like, hey, why did you drive out in front of me? That's not what deer do. yeah, so anyway, so that's kind of what like the song is about. I was able to, or I tried to, you know, relate how I feel in most situations to what you see deer kind of do. So the whole thing is like, I'm gonna stop, I'm gonna stare, I'm gonna freeze. Mike Winson: Mm. Abigail Fawn: Like the opening line of the song, I solve my problems by running away. Very clear with that. But yeah. But yeah, that was very fun. And I thought for my first official release, 'cause obviously I've been writing music for a long time and just haven't released it. but my first official release I wanted it to be kind of something that encapsulated the vibe of what I wanted to do going forward. And then I've only dropped one song, Simpson, but I'm working on two right now that I hope to release soon. Mike Winson: Can you give us anything about the two? Abigail Fawn: yeah, well there's one, it's called Out of Out of Here right now. that's more like poppy, like the Do You Love Me Back song that I have out. that should be fun. But then there's also one called Wished for This, which is a little sadder. Right now it's acoustic guitar, but I wanna kind of add some other instruments and stack my vocals a little more and make it more of like a full sound. so it'll be a different sound from what people usually hear from me, but I'm curious to see if people will like it. Yeah. Mike Winson: And and one of the reasons that I I mean, I asked for obvious reasons because I you know I listened to Fawn obviously and Abigail Fawn: Yeah. Mike Winson: and I watched the video too, which once you said I mean I when you you when I saw that it was Fawn and and your your last name, stage name Fawn, and I looked Abigail Fawn: Mm. Mike Winson: at it and I saw deer right away, by the way. So you you got across Abigail Fawn: Yeah. Mike Winson: in the video exactly what what I was what I was thinking. But the reason I brought it up is Abigail Fawn: Thank you. Yeah. Mike Winson: is as you know, I grew up in in music theater and theater and all that stuff too. I'm hopefully this year gonna be putting out my first song as well, which is really cool. Abigail Fawn: Amazing. Mike Winson: So I'm very excited and and Abigail Fawn: Do what's it called? Mike Winson: We don't actually know. so Abigail Fawn: Okay. Mike Winson: I wrote it with a friend of mine. I've never, I've always wanted to write a song and I never got it. I never I was I'm really hard at I'm really struggle with starting creatively. Like once I can get my brain past it, then I'm really good at continuing on. But the starting of so a friend of mine who I've known for a while helped me. right now its name is North Star. So I I have Parkinson's disease. And Abigail Fawn: Okay. Mike Winson: and the idea of the song is when you get when you get diagnosed with in this case a degenerative brain disorder that has no cure, it it is mentally hard on you. And then it's kind of starting with that, but then going into, you know, I'm gonna enjoy life to the fullest. at this point and i'm gonna i'm gonna pay attention to now and not worry about what's gonna happen however many years from now so that's the idea of the song but yeah Abigail Fawn: Yes. that's lovely. I can't wait to hear it. Mike Winson: yeah but we're we're not here to talk about me we're here to talk about you so we're it's okay Abigail Fawn: sorry, sorry. Mike Winson: it's okay so you obviously are still writing and you're still acting is is your long-term goal to kind of still do ballet and singing and acting and all of it, or is there a direction that, you know, five, ten years in the future, whatever that may be, you you kind of like what where's the where's the deep part of of Abigail's heart when it comes to to doing these kind of things? Abigail Fawn: Yeah, well I would love for singing to be my main thing. and whether that be through my own like artist project or whether that be I just get like hired to sing at events. Like I don't know, I would just love for my main thing to be singing. and then, you know, dancing and acting too, but right now I get my main source from Mike Winson: Right. Abigail Fawn: acting and then I dance and sing when I can. I would love to flip that a little bit and like main singing and act and dance when I can. Mike Winson: what? What's your favorite musical? Abigail Fawn: My favorite musical? Mike Winson: Yeah. Abigail Fawn: Like like musical theater? Mike Winson: Yeah. Abigail Fawn: waitress. Mike Winson: Waitress. I've never seen that one. Abigail Fawn: Mm-hmm. The music for Waitress is by Sarah Barellis. It's so good. Mike Winson: Hmm. I'll have to check that out. Yeah, I'd never heard of that one. Hmm. Abigail Fawn: it's really good. Mike Winson: Hmm. That's really cool. Sorry. I'm sitting here thinking about now I need to I got one I need to watch because you'd you'd think I would have heard of it, but no. Abigail Fawn: Yeah. It's good. It was popular in like two thousand fifteen, I think, is when it was on Broadway. Mike Winson: Mm, okay. Abigail Fawn: I could've that could be wrong. Don't fact check that actually. Or do fact check that 'cause I probably wrong. do do fact check that. Mike Winson: Do fact check it before we before we Abigail Fawn: That might be not correct, but around that time for sure. Mike Winson: Yeah. okay. So I want to I want to yeah. I was I was trying to figure out which direction I want to go. I think I want to do this. okay. I want to do a it's kind of I call it a speed round where Abigail Fawn: Okay. Mike Winson: we just ask you some easy questions, no stress, you're all good. There's no wrong answer. Top coffee order. Abigail Fawn: Top coffee order. Mike Winson: Mm-hmm. Abigail Fawn: I'm really into cold brew right now with a pump of vanilla syrup. Mike Winson: Mm. Cold brew's the best. Abigail Fawn: Yeah. Mike Winson: savory or sweet breakfast? Abigail Fawn: Sweet. Mike Winson: What what's your go to? Abigail Fawn: Right now overnight oats Mike Winson: That's right. Abigail Fawn: Really into those right now. Mike Winson: They're really good. They're really good. by the way, if you ever get a chance to try it, lemon blueberries. Abigail Fawn: Okay. Do you are you like like chopping up the lemon or are you just using like lemon juice? Mike Winson: So you use the lemon juice and you put some of the the the zest in it too. And you let it so you put the lemon and the zest in and you let that sit overnight, and then you put the blueberries Abigail Fawn: Okay. Mike Winson: in the next morning when you're about to eat them. So good. It's so good. That's that's like Abigail Fawn: Stun. That sounds great. I'll have to try, yeah. Mike Winson: my go-to for for overnight oats. Abigail Fawn: Mm. Mike Winson: beach or mountains. Abigail Fawn: Ma I wanna say beach because I love mermaids, but I also hate the sun 'cause I get sunburnt, so I'm gonna go with mountains. Mike Winson: Okay. You do live close to the mountains too, so I knew that was gonna be a tough one for you. Or at least you grew up close to the mountains. go go Abigail Fawn: Yeah. Yeah. Like hometown mountains, yeah. Mike Winson: to karaoke song. Abigail Fawn: What a great question. My friend is actually having a karaoke birthday party next week and I've been struggling with what to s what to sing, but I think I'm gonna do Break Free by Ariana Grande. Mike Winson: I I'm so shocked it was an Aria Grande song. for anyone listening, if you watch her live, she goes singing and it's Abigail Fawn: Ha ha ha Mike Winson: half of it's at least Ariana Grande, which is fine because you sing Ariana Grande so well. You sound like Ariana Grande. You sound like pretty much everyone Abigail Fawn: It's just so great. okay. Mike Winson: you sing, it's fine. Abigail Fawn: Thanks. Mike Winson: I'm not jealous or anything. She says, she says, she comes in, guys. Listen, I I want you, I want everyone to listen. This woman, this woman, the first time she sings on a live, she goes, Guys, guys, I I don't, I'm not warmed up. I don't, I don't know if I can do this. I I I haven't warmed up. And then she sings like some bla I don't even remember what song it was, but I'm just sitting here going, girl. No one not warmed up should be able to sing these songs. Today you were singing like Never Enough and and Abigail Fawn: Yeah. Mike Winson: and and f like and who else were you singing? Were you singing Whitney? Abigail Fawn: No, was the Celine Dion song that I'll come back to me now. Yeah. Yeah. Mike Winson: Celine Dion, that's who it was. Yeah. Yes. Which is hilarious because you didn't know that. Abigail Fawn: forty percent of it. But yeah, in the middle of the verses I was like it was like for the nap we don't play in a stuff Yeah. I was like Mike Winson: It was so good. just like speaking words. It was good. Abigail Fawn: I'll learn it, I'll learn it, I'll learn it Mike Winson: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. dogs or cats? Abigail Fawn: Dogs one thousand percent Mike Winson: What is it you have a do you have a favorite breed? Abigail Fawn: growing up I had a golden retriever and then she died when she was seventeen, when I was nineteen. and then my parents got a new dog. he's a yellow lab and he's great. So probably Mike Winson: Mm. Abigail Fawn: a golden retriever or a yellow lab are my bias for sure. Mike Winson: There you go. favorite comfort food. Abigail Fawn: well I really as a meal, I'm a big fried rice stan. Mike Winson: Mm. Abigail Fawn: but as a snack I love raisinets because my dad loves raisinettes. Whenever I eat raisinettes, I think about my dad. But also I just love raisinettes. Mike Winson: Aww. There you go. last show you binged. Abigail Fawn: Ooh. I'm currently re watching Gilmore Girls, you 'tis the season, it's fall. Mike Winson: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Abigail Fawn: so probably that one, yeah. But also recently over the summer I'd watch the Good Place for the first time all the way through. Mike Winson: okay. That's a good one. Abigail Fawn: Yeah. Mike Winson: morning person or night owl? Abigail Fawn: I f I'm the happiest in the mornings, I will say, but I don't like waking up. But once I'm up, I'm like happy. And at night, you know, like the existential dread comes in, so probably not that, but you know, maybe Mike Winson: No, we don't want night ex existential dread. Abigail Fawn: Ha. Mike Winson: is there a food that you refuse to eat? Abigail Fawn: No. Well no. Sometimes I get Mike Winson: At least not that you know of yet. Abigail Fawn: Yeah, not that I know of. I feel like sometimes I get weird with like rabbit or lamb. I've never had Mike Winson: Mm. Abigail Fawn: either one of those just because I think they're so cute, I don't wanna eat them. but I'm not a vegan. I'm not vegan. I was, but I'm not anymore. But Mike Winson: Girl, you've never had a you've never huh? Yeah. You've never had a a a Euro? Abigail Fawn: No. no. Mike Winson: Girl. Okay, if I ever come if I ever show up in LA, you're you're trying a Euro because you have to. It's dil it's delicious. Abigail Fawn: Okay, okay. Okay, but okay. But they're so cute. Mike Winson: They are cute. You still gotta try it once. Abigail Fawn: Okay, okay. Mike Winson: okay. favorite season. Abigail Fawn: Green. Mike Winson: Spring. Okay. Abigail Fawn: I like pastels. Mike Winson: I grew up since I grew up in the northeast, fall it's always fall. The the the leaf ch color change leaves is just Abigail Fawn: I love the color changing. I I just for some reason fall makes me really anxious. I'm trying to work on that now. but I can't say fall, but spring. Mike Winson: Do you do you know why? That's really interesting. I no, we're not I'm not trying to get Abigail Fawn: I think Mike Winson: into like not trying to like Abigail Fawn: No, you're good. Mike Winson: get deep in on here, but that's really interesting that fall that you struggle with it. Abigail Fawn: Yeah, I don't know. I think it's just that it's so it's such a season of change. And I think, you know, Mike Winson: Mm. Abigail Fawn: growing up you always are starting like a new school year or something like that. And then even as now I've graduated and everything, it's still like every fall like something's changing. Like summer's over, like you starting a new chapter, something's changing. So that's like an anxiety spike. So I've really equated like the pumpkin spice scent with anxiety. I'm trying to work through that. But but yeah. Mike Winson: Wow. That's gotta be rough. Abigail Fawn: Yeah, no, it's it's I don't know. I'm working on it for sure. Mike Winson: I mean you are, 'cause you did have that thing where you got all the pumpkin spice stuff and you're like, What can I do with it? Abigail Fawn: Yeah, yeah. Well because I'm trying to break my fall anxiousness and turn fall into a season that I love because I feel like so many people love it, and rightfully so. Halloween is fun, the changing of the leaves is super fun, like the color scheme, the scents, the th and like I love a theme. I'm huge into themes, so I appreciate the theme of fall. But Mike Winson: Yeah. Abigail Fawn: I would like to love it, and hopefully one day I will. Soon. Mike Winson: Yeah. Okay. sweet treat you can't say no to. Abigail Fawn: I was just talking about my friend with this. A good chocolate chip cookie trumps everything, but the average brownie is usually good. So I'm gonna go with that. I'm Mike Winson: Mm. So either average bount brownie or top tier chocolate chip cookie. Abigail Fawn: Yeah, I mean it a top tier brownie would obviously be preferred. But, you know, I'm I can't eat dairy. I'm a dairy free legend. So I feel like Mike Winson: Okay. Abigail Fawn: a lot of ice creams and other desserts I'm not into, but a cookie a good chocolate chip cookie with like little toffee bits or something. Ooh. Stubb. Mike Winson: Ooh, yeah. Yeah. if you could have if you could karaoke duet with anybody, who would you pick? Abigail Fawn: I think you know the answer, it's Ariana Grande, are you kidding me? Mike Winson: I did know the answer, but I had to ask. I had to ask. Abigail Fawn: Ha ha ha. Mike Winson: if you had a free day with zero plans, what would you do? Abigail Fawn: Ooh, do I need to be like productive this day? Or can I just or like treat it? Mike Winson: No, it's this is like a you wake up and there's there's nothing like you have to do for work. There's nothing that you have to do for like you just this is like a what do what's what's the first thing that pops in your brain that you want to do? Abigail Fawn: Well, I love to sing every day. So I would definitely be singing. And I always start the morning with the dance party because that's actually really helped my mental health. I get up every morning and I jump around for thirty minutes. Mike Winson: Hmm. Heck yeah. Abigail Fawn: so I have to do that. Then after that, I don't know, I would just like to see my friends and and, you know, Mike Winson: Yeah. Abigail Fawn: remember like who I am and what I like to do. 'cause I feel like when you're working all the time sometimes you get you lose yourself for a second. But yeah, I love Yeah. Yeah. Mike Winson: I know that feeling, unfortunately. Abigail Fawn: Hang on with my friends. Finally it's it. Mike Winson: yeah. I could definitely see you being one of those people because I'm one of those people too, where I just I'm either I'm either humming or I'm singing or like it just it's nonstop. And it gets even Abigail Fawn: Yeah. Mike Winson: more annoying because people will say something that will make me think of a song, and I'll either put whatever sentence that they said into that song, even though it doesn't go there, or I'll just start singing the song itself. One of the One of the multiple things. Abigail Fawn: Nice, nice, yeah. Mike Winson: Yeah. Okay. I think you know I just wanna say this because this was this I did not plan this, this was not part of my my schedule. As someone who has now watched basically every one of your lives that you have done. Abigail Fawn: All five. Mike Winson: All five. I really appreciate you in those lives. there's something Abigail Fawn: thank you. Mike Winson: about just not something, your personality, your you, you literally, you just ooze. I know, and which is funny because now we've been talking and you're just talking about all this anxiety you have in the background. You you are just so you ooze happiness and appreciation and everything else every every time you come on there. And as someone who who spends a good chunk of his day interacting with some days it feels like the worst of humanity, I Abigail Fawn: Mm. Mike Winson: appreciate it greatly. Abigail Fawn: thank you. Thank you. I I certainly do try. I I try to make sure to keep everything upbeat and light because it's the the world is dark and scary. And tr and truthfully I had like a terrible summer. But I'm like locking in. I'm changing the course of my life. We're gonna be happy and we're gonna be positive now and we're gonna spread joy and love and everything's gonna be okay. Cause it has to be okay. That's what's up. But thank you for saying that. That really means a lot to me 'cause I really do try. Mike Winson: And I never would have guessed you've only done five, by the way, as well. Abigail Fawn: Ha ha ha Mike Winson: so Abigail, thank you so much for coming on here and sitting down Abigail Fawn: Thank you. Mike Winson: with me and letting us get to know you a little bit. I really appreciate it. where can people find you if they want to follow your stuff or watch you on a live? Abigail Fawn: Yeah. I'm everywhere under Abigail dot Fawn. so on Instagram and TikTok, YouTube, Spotify, Alpha Music, it's all Abigail Fawn, A B I G I I L F A W N, that's me. Mike Winson: Yep. Abigail Fawn: so yeah. Mike Winson: Make sure you check out her her newest her newest songs on on all of those. Make sure you check out Fawn. Make sure you check out all of all of her billionaires that she's had babies with. Make sure you Abigail Fawn: Yeah. Mike Winson: you you watch all of her her videos where she sings and dances and and all that Abigail Fawn: He Mike Winson: stuff, especially if you want to sing some some good tap dancing from obviously COVID era because you had masks on during it. Abigail Fawn: Ha you did you watch my dance reel? Is that where you Mike Winson: Yeah. Abigail Fawn: saw that? Yeah. I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, shut up. Yeah. Mike Winson: Yep. Yep. Yep. so yeah, thank you, thank you so much for being here. Thank you for all of this. Please, please Abigail Fawn: Cute. Mike Winson: support for everyone listening. Please support Abigail. Please support all these people. These these are just such amazing people. I've this experience has been one of the coolest experiences because you guys all in the vertical world are probably just you're just the most amazing people that I've gotten to talk to. So thank you. Thank you. for everyone listening, thank you as well. Please hit all those buttons down below. Like, subscribe, share it, all that stuff. I appreciate it. I'm sure Abigail appreciates it. It makes it possible for me to keep doing Abigail Fawn: Ha ha Mike Winson: what I do, which is interview people like Abigail. and and I want to be able to keep doing it. So please help out. And for those of you that may be new to Breaking the Meta, just so you know, breaking the meta is about having hard conversations when necessary, fighting to break the status quo and the idea that all people, no matter your race, religion, gender, or identity, deserve rights, respect, dignity, and safety. Again, Abigail, thank you for being here. And for everyone else, we'll see you next time on Breaking the Meta. Bye guys.