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Friday October 9 2026 | Historical Travel Friday · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 2: we announced yesterday a theme, and we're going to do
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  Speaker 2: historic travel. I want to kind of broaden it a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. I want to talk about travel in general
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  Speaker 2: because I've got something happened this week with the airlines
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  Speaker 2: that I can't wait to.
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  Speaker 3: Share with you. Imagine my surprise.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I know. And I'm jazzed about it, and I'm excited
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  Speaker 2: about it. But I also want to talk politics real
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  Speaker 2: quick with you, if you don't mind.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, sure, sure.
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  Speaker 2: Of course. Ed Morrissey yesterday posted– Ed's our friend from
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  Speaker 2: Hot Air– And does a great job. And Ed claims
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  Speaker 2: that as of yesterday morning, he said, Tallarico's campaign schedule
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  Speaker 2: does not have a single event for the candidate planned
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  Speaker 2: before the midterm election. Ed says that's not the flu,
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  Speaker 2: that's the fled. Trump is starting to point that out.
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  Speaker 2: Trump is saying, he calls him Tallarico. And he says
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  Speaker 2: Talafrico is missing in action. Now, nobody's plugged into Texas
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  Speaker 2: politics like Mark Davis. Before we get into our travel
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  Speaker 2: segment today and we talk about historic travel and airline
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  Speaker 2: stories and everything else, are you hearing the same thing?
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  Speaker 2: Is he really doing the Biden in the basement routine?
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  Speaker 3: I can corroborate that there is intel that suggests that
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  Speaker 3: he has been less plugged in, less ubiquitous. Great word
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  Speaker 3: meaning you're all over the place. There was one weird
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  Speaker 3: thing where he said that, hey, I had to kind
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  Speaker 3: of be away because I kind of had the flu.
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  Speaker 3: But he was actually at a New York fundraiser or
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  Speaker 3: something the previous day. So that kind of looked like
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  Speaker 3: he actually was somewhere, just not where he said he was.
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  Speaker 3: And it's easy. It would be so tempting for me,
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  Speaker 3: for you, for those of us on our side to go, well,
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  Speaker 3: the wheels are shooting off. This is the beginning of
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  Speaker 3: the end. Hey, it may well be. One can only hope.
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  Speaker 3: But there is coupled with the weirdness of his views.
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  Speaker 3: There now appears to be some weirdness in his whereabouts,
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  Speaker 3: campaign scheduling, and procedural matters. So we'll just keep track
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  Speaker 3: of this with 20-some days to go.
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  Speaker 2: Well, wouldn't it make sense, though, if he's riding a
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  Speaker 2: wave of momentum, wouldn't he be everywhere right now?
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  Speaker 3: One would think.
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  Speaker 2: That's bizarre. And I'm looking at some of the comments
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  Speaker 2: under Ed Morrissey's post on X. Somebody wrote, I bet
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  Speaker 2: he saw that the polls are falling. his issues aren't working.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to lose by 20 points.
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  Speaker 3: Well, okay.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, I laugh. I laugh when it was Cornyn versus Paxton.
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  Speaker 3: I was pretty confident that Paxton would win. And I
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  Speaker 3: thought about getting on the show. And somebody said, really
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  Speaker 3: like by how much, by how much? Cause everybody wants
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  Speaker 3: to know that. I went, I don't know, five, eight.
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  Speaker 3: I felt like eight, like, cause that's a pretty sizable win.
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  Speaker 3: And I didn't dream that it would be like 30 or,
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  Speaker 3: So you just never, you just truly never know. And,
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  Speaker 3: you know, so.
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  Speaker 2: That's great. Well, we have to have some fun. And again,
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  Speaker 2: we're just going to do a little bit of a
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  Speaker 2: detour before we get into travel because I have, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't have a chance to do this with you yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: But we got to, we got to play Trump at
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  Speaker 2: the Texas rally, bagging on Tallarico, James Tallarico. He calls
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  Speaker 2: him Tala-freako.
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  Speaker 1: Why, of course.
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  Speaker 2: It's become apparently pretty well known that Tallarico, I guess,
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  Speaker 2: is a vegan country.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, this is the pronunciation thing where Melania. Is this it?
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  Speaker 2: Nope. Let's play it. This is what because Trump is
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  Speaker 2: mocking Tallarico's penchant for veganism, saying that the reason he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't eat meat is because he gets sick when he
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  Speaker 2: eats a nice big old fat porterhouse steak. Check this out.
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  Speaker 2: Here's our here's our president in full Don Rickles mode
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  Speaker 2: in the state of Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Now we're all looking.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody can find the guy.
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  Speaker 1: He's gone for two weeks.
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  Speaker 4: You know, though, he'd go to barbecues and again, pure vegan.
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  Speaker 2: He'd speak about.
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  Speaker 1: Remember, he had a.
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  Speaker 4: Mask on three months ago. Anybody wearing a mask in
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  Speaker 4: Texas three months ago is not going to be your senator.
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  Speaker 4: But he forced himself to go to barbecues. He'd have
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  Speaker 4: beautiful barbecues and he'd show up at a barbecue and
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  Speaker 4: he'd stuff from little ribs down his throat. He'd have
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  Speaker 4: a little cup of bites. He doesn't eat big. He's
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  Speaker 4: not a big eater.
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  Speaker 3: You can tell by looking at him. But he'd eat.
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  Speaker 2: And then what would happen?
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  Speaker 4: He'd go to the back of the tent and he'd
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  Speaker 4: throw up all over the place because he doesn't want meat.
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  Speaker 4: We want our person. You like meat a lot, I think.
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  Speaker 4: And I have a feeling Ken likes meat.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ken Paxton will eat meat without throwing up.
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  Speaker 3: You can say that again. Now, this is only going
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  Speaker 3: to be about 15 seconds, and it's only going to
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  Speaker 3: be audio because of my inferior technology in the room
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  Speaker 3: compared to the palatial things. You're going to hear Trump.
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  Speaker 3: This was same rally, probably same thing. Apparently, at some point,
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  Speaker 3: he was referring to Tallarico's vegan propensities, and he referred
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  Speaker 3: to it as vegan propensities.
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  Speaker 2: All right. And it's funny. Instead of vegan?
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  Speaker 3: Kind of like Vegas, like Las Vegas.
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  Speaker 4: OK.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? So you can almost see it,
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  Speaker 3: but blah, blah, blah. And apparently, apparently the person who
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  Speaker 3: corrected him and said, stop saying that was apparently Melania.
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  Speaker 3: So just hang just so everybody just everybody just listen.
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  Speaker 2: OK.
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  Speaker 4: He said all of a sudden he's a vegan. You know,
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  Speaker 4: my wife told me, sir, give me food. You have
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  Speaker 4: to do me just a.
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  Speaker 2: Little bit of a favor.
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  Speaker 4: It's not vegan, it's vegan. I don't know about that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not into it.
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  Speaker 4: He said, it's vegan. Please pronounce that word properly. I
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  Speaker 4: called it vegan, vegan.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was.
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  Speaker 2: How the hell would I know? I like steak.
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  Speaker 3: But my favorite part of that quote is, so Melania
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  Speaker 3: comes up to me and says, sir, do you think
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  Speaker 3: there's any universe?
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  Speaker 2: She doesn't call him, sir. She doesn't call him, sir.
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  Speaker 2: He may call her ma'am.
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  Speaker 1: I would.
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  Speaker 2: You better believe it. I know I would. You don't
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  Speaker 2: want to make her mad. And one more funny clip.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. This is Trump on display. This is the
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  Speaker 2: sense of humor that you either get or you get
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  Speaker 2: it or you don't. If you get it, you get it.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't, you don't. We get it.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever first comes out of their mouth, that's what they believe.
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  Speaker 4: So he's got all this bad stuff. Now he's making
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  Speaker 4: it up. Now he says he loves meat.
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  Speaker 1: But he's a vegan.
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  Speaker 3: See, Melania, I got that right.
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  Speaker 2: Vegan.
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  Speaker 4: He's a vegan. He wants to eat a piece of lettuce,
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  Speaker 4: a little piece of lettuce, please. But he's been seen.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you haven't seen him in a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 4: I hear the guy's disappeared.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody knows.
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  Speaker 4: You know where he is? He's sick because he's been
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  Speaker 4: forced to eat meat for political reasons, and he's throwing
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  Speaker 4: up all over the place.
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  Speaker 1: He's sick.
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  Speaker 3: God, these binging and purging imageries of Puerto Rico.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. So we promised yesterday we'd do a
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  Speaker 2: little travel, historic travel. I went to Salem, Massachusetts. Let
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  Speaker 2: me start real quick with an airline story.
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  Speaker 3: Please.
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  Speaker 2: Because you, I assume you're largely an American Airlines guy, right?
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  Speaker 2: Out of Dallas?
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  Speaker 3: Not even DFW. I won't say I have no choice,
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  Speaker 3: but if you want to get anywhere, the vast majority
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  Speaker 3: of your choices are American Airlines, but I've done some Southwest, Delta, United,
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  Speaker 3: all of them.
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  Speaker 2: Right. But you're largely American. I'm largely Delta.
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  Speaker 4: 80%.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm largely Delta because Florida, you know, I go
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  Speaker 2: in and out of Tampa Bay and Delta's, and I
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  Speaker 2: think Delta's a really good airline. However, Ed Bastian, the
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  Speaker 2: CEO of Delta, is said to be so woke that
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't want to work with Elon Musk and Starlink.
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  Speaker 2: Starlink is the new technology that Elon, of course, has
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  Speaker 2: introduced to the world, satellite technology and Wi-Fi and all that.
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  Speaker 2: And airlines all over the world are equipping their planes
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  Speaker 2: with Starlink. And I'm told that It's better than home.
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  Speaker 2: That you're on a plane at 35,000 feet and you
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  Speaker 2: get on the Wi-Fi that's provided by Starlink. It's a
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  Speaker 2: better experience than your own home Wi-Fi.
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  Speaker 3: I talked to a guy who's streaming five football baseball
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  Speaker 3: games at once just sitting there in his seat on
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  Speaker 3: an iPad and a phone. It's just like it's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: That's wild.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, so here's my deal. United Airlines, which is
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  Speaker 2: embracing Starlink, and more and more planes every day are
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  Speaker 2: getting equipped with Starlink, they've offered Delta customers a status match.
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  Speaker 2: The status quo. Now, check this out, because they're trying
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  Speaker 2: to capture Delta passengers who want United Starlink Wi-Fi. And
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  Speaker 2: by the way, I'm one of those. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: about you. I probably fly more than you do for
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  Speaker 2: work and everything. And I got no life, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: always on an airplane. And I crave a good Wi-Fi
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  Speaker 2: connection on a flight. It changes the whole flight for me.
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  Speaker 2: I can doom scroll. I can text. I can tweet.
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  Speaker 2: I can watch stuff. It makes every flight fly by.
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  Speaker 2: When I don't have Wi-Fi on a plane, I am miserable.
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  Speaker 3: It's torture.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely torture, right? So United comes along, and they say,
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  Speaker 2: here's what we'll do. If your diamond medallion at Delta,
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  Speaker 2: which I am, will match your status by giving you
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  Speaker 2: that same level of status on United, all you got
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  Speaker 2: to do is show us your Delta status, and you
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  Speaker 2: can become a United 1K customer. 1K is the equivalent
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  Speaker 2: of Delta diamond medallion.
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  Speaker 3: That is– pause, because unless I'm missing my guess here,
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  Speaker 3: that is– When I say crazy, I guess I mean
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  Speaker 3: crazy good because the reason Delta gave you that grand
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  Speaker 3: poobah status is because you've spent a squillion dollars with them.
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 3: I guess the gamble for United is that in essentially giving,
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  Speaker 3: bestowing upon you the same level of perks– That's simply
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  Speaker 3: them luring you in so that you will then do
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  Speaker 3: all of your profligate travel with them and they'll make
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  Speaker 3: the money back. Is that the calculation there?
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  Speaker 4: It is.
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  Speaker 2: And the pushback has been from United legitimate 1K customers.
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  Speaker 3: Who don't like the fact– Oh, the watery chopped liver?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, we've spent all the– and I get it.
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  Speaker 2: So there's pros and cons to it. Well, I decide
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to try it. I want to fly United
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  Speaker 2: a lot. I'm going to see– and I've yet to
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  Speaker 2: get on a United plane with Starlink. So they still–
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  Speaker 2: they don't have every plane equipped, but they're working on it.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, long story short, a week and a half or
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  Speaker 2: so ago, I apply. There's a glitch. It doesn't recognize
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  Speaker 2: my Delta Diamond Medallion status.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Lord.
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  Speaker 2: And it said we don't see it. It's not the
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  Speaker 2: right format. You're supposed to put it in a PDF.
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  Speaker 2: I put it in a PVD. Long story short, yesterday
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  Speaker 2: I get the email. Congratulations. We've approved you. You're a match.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the thing. They give you 90 days. To
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  Speaker 2: then go into a level of travel, I think I've
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  Speaker 2: got to spend $ 7, 000 in 90 days in order to
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  Speaker 2: maintain my status.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to give you the status, but you better
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  Speaker 3: show us that you are the traveling fiend that you
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  Speaker 3: were over there with Delta.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: That's the hitch. That's the catch.
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  Speaker 3: They're no fools.
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  Speaker 2: They're no fools, so they're not just giving out willy-nilly. Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: where are you going? London, Uruguay, Black Hole. That's next week.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be on the plane a lot. But I thought
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  Speaker 2: that was kind of a cool story. And look, as
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  Speaker 2: airlines go, and I fly them all. I do American.
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  Speaker 2: I do Delta. I do United. I've done Southwest. I
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  Speaker 2: still think Delta has the best service and the best experience.
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  Speaker 3: I've enjoyed Delta. I've had a few times that I've
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  Speaker 3: done it. But here's the weird thing. Generally speaking, isn't it,
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  Speaker 3: for the most part, roughly the same? Pretty much. When
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  Speaker 3: people say, oh, I hate American.
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, maybe if you had five terrible things happen,
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  Speaker 3: maybe so. But the notion that American versus United versus Delta,
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  Speaker 3: Southwest is kind of different. It's almost a different criteria.
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  Speaker 3: But I think the big three, if those are the
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  Speaker 3: big three, they're They're pretty darn comparable, aren't they?
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  Speaker 2: You know a really cool airline experience? Has Breeze Airways
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  Speaker 2: hit Dallas-Fort Worth yet?
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't know.
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  Speaker 2: Breeze is out of, I think, Salt Lake. And they
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  Speaker 2: have brand new planes. They're going in and out of
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  Speaker 2: places that I go to a lot, South Carolina, Florida,
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  Speaker 2: and all that. And you can get a first-class seat
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  Speaker 2: for like $ 180 round trip. It's the coolest.
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  Speaker 3: From where to where?
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  Speaker 2: Like Tampa to Greenville, Spartanburg, South Carolina.
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  Speaker 3: Get the heck in.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not kidding you. And they've got a regular bona fide. See,
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  Speaker 2: you know King Tut. I like my first class. And
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  Speaker 2: they've got a first class, but it's a discount airline
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  Speaker 2: and it's a good airline. Breeze Airways.
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  Speaker 3: The big trend around here at Love Field is an
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  Speaker 3: outfit called J, I want to say JSX.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And what they do, it's kind of like it's semi-private
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  Speaker 3: where you don't have to go through TSA. You just
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  Speaker 3: do the reservation through them. You show up, walk up
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  Speaker 3: to the plane, get on.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: How interesting. So there you go. Jay, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: look on that. All right. Let's talk history for a moment.
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  Speaker 2: And let me set it up this way. This is
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  Speaker 2: a relatively new phenomenon in my life that I've started
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  Speaker 2: to appreciate, historic travel. And it goes back to a
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  Speaker 2: trip I took a few years ago to London with Denise.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a few years ago, a long time ago.
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  Speaker 2: But I used to dread, I don't care about history
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  Speaker 2: and travel and sites. Well, Denise dragged me into the
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  Speaker 2: Tower of London.
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  Speaker 4: Hello.
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  Speaker 2: Mark, I just got immersed. That's it? That was it.
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  Speaker 2: The Ravens?
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  Speaker 3: See the Ravens?
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  Speaker 2: The Ravens. We interviewed the beefeater. I talked to him,
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  Speaker 2: the guy who takes care of the Ravens. But the
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  Speaker 2: stories and Anne Boleyn and the hangings and the executions
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  Speaker 2: and all of that and how they were carving their
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  Speaker 2: names in the side of the wall in that infamous tower.
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  Speaker 2: And it came alive for me. Mark, it was like
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  Speaker 2: a light switch got turned on where all of a
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  Speaker 2: sudden now I love– going to historic places.
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  Speaker 3: So in some prior year, in just some prior chapter
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  Speaker 3: in life, somebody would have said, did you think that
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  Speaker 3: what you needed to flip the switch was to actually
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  Speaker 3: go and do that? You didn't like the idea of
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  Speaker 3: travel based on something historic. And then once you finally
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  Speaker 3: did it, it's like, oh, this is awesome.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't interest me for some reason. It's not that
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  Speaker 2: history doesn't interest me, but I admit I'm not the
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  Speaker 2: lover of history that maybe you are, many are, but
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  Speaker 2: I kind of am. But now I am, and I love–
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  Speaker 2: and that's why this trip to Salem even this week,
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  Speaker 2: the historic village of Salem, Massachusetts.
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  Speaker 3: So what do you do? You've been gone for that,
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  Speaker 3: and I've never been. I mean you go to Boston.
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  Speaker 3: It's just northeast of Boston along the Massachusetts coast.
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  Speaker 2: Forty minutes away.
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  Speaker 3: So getting there, what do you– and as I mentioned
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  Speaker 3: to you, they're just having– it's a bit to them now.
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  Speaker 3: It's like going to Roswell, New Mexico with the aliens.
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  Speaker 3: I don't mean to be flippant about that. But they
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  Speaker 3: name stuff after it. There's witch themes everywhere. The local
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: high school is the witches. So they're just clearly making
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: hay with this. But what is it like to be
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: there and what kind of touristy things do you do?
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  Speaker 2: And it's a relatively new phenomenon for Salem, Massachusetts, only
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: within the last few decades. have they sort of embraced
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  Speaker 2: their heritage? Because they, for the longest time, they were
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  Speaker 2: ashamed of it.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty grim. It's lunatics killing people on the false
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  Speaker 3: accusation of being a witch. It's morbid.
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  Speaker 2: They executed 20 people, 19 men and women, women and
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: men were hanged. One man was pressed to death by
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: having to lay naked on the ground. He was an
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: 80 year old man and he was falsely accused of
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: And they had a vicious sheriff at the time, and
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: this is 1692. He had to strip. He had to
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: lay on his back. They put a big wooden plank
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: over the top of his body, and they started laying
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: huge boulders on top of him to get him to
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  Speaker 2: confess that he was, you know, culpable for witchcraft and whatever.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: and sorcery and of course he wouldn't do it and
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: incidentally the reason they got to that point he wouldn't
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: plead guilty or not guilty because he knew that it
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: was going to be a witch trial it was going
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: to be a witch hunt and they were going to
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: get him anyway and if he pled one way or
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: the other under common law at the time if he
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: was convicted he couldn't pass on his property and his
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: estate to his next of kin.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Good Lord.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: So he didn't do anything. He was mute. Anyway, he
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: was such a stubborn old man and not a very
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: nice guy. His name was Giles Corey. And as the
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: mean sheriff and the vicious sheriff was piling the bricks on,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: he kept saying, are you going to confess? Will thou
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: not confess? And his last words were, with blood pouring
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: out of his mouth, more weight. He said, more weight.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: More weight.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: And they did, and they stuck.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: His— That's very William Wallace. It was.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: It was very William. In fact, Braveheart, in fact, that's
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: how he died. He didn't die from apparently the crushing
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: of the boulders. His tongue was sticking out of his mouth.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: And the sheriff took a stick and shoved the tug
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: back into his mouth. And he choked on his tongue. Well,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: how about that?
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Look at the time.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: Yikes.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Happy weekend.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: But I would have the same, I guess, a sort
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: of semi-morbid fascination. Okay, this is weird. Small detour off
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: the Salem story, but still staying there. The fury, the fervor,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: the anti-witch thing, the mania ran so, so thick. You
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: mentioned about how many people were hanged?
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: 19 were hanged, and he was crushed, so 20 people executed.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Also hanged? Two dogs.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: They hanged dogs?
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: The story was an afflicted young girl claimed a neighbor's
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: dog was bewitching her and causing her to convulse. Now,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: did they hang the dogs?
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know how you hang a dog. But were
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: you able to plug into the five like you normally
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: do while you were away?
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: A little bit, yeah. Yeah, so much.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Did you catch Dana Perino working blue? They talked about this.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I hear you were in Salem and they actually talked
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: about this on like Tuesday or something. And this is
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Dana Perino. I mean, so just who's as lily clean,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: pure as the driven snow, blah, blah, blah. Her retort
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: to this about hanging. I guess they were talking about
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: hysteria or something like that. And the Salem imagery came up.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: And I think Gutfeld said, you realize that this ran
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: so intense that they executed two dogs. And Dana Perino said, yeah,
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: but they were real bitches.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Ba-dum-bum. And I love her. I adore her.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: I just love her.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Do you know there was– how about this? There was
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: a four-year-old girl thrown in prison on suspicion of witchcraft.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Dude.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Dorothy Good.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: What?
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: See, and this is what's fascinating, though, about the whole
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Salem story. And the reason I got– I'm so into
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: it is because– It was mass hysteria, and it was
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: incidentally popularized in the play Arthur Miller's The Crucible. You've
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: ever seen The Crucible or read that? It was mass
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: hysteria that caught on, and all these girls were acting out,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: and they were all feeling guilty, and they were being blamed,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: and they were blaming one another, blah, blah, blah. And
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: this person scratched me in the middle of the night,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: came to me in a dream, and they executed 20 people. Now,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: here's the crazy part. Salem, Massachusetts executed 20. Do you
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: know there were tens of thousands of people in Europe
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: along the same time frame that were executed for witchcraft?
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Good grief.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Yep. Tens of thousands, like 45,000 people. So it's not– Salem,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: which they were pikers compared to Europe at the time.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: But that's what this mass hysteria can create and that's what–
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: you got to worry about that. We're capable of doing
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: crap like this.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Like what's the next– I mean we'd like to think
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: we achieve some certain linear enlightenment although we could certainly
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: remain dumb as a mud fence in some ways.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: So when you talk about American history and things, I
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: mean obviously– The places you go, you're you're Washington, D.C.,
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: you're Philadelphia. And let's just stipulate that everybody should do that.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: And it's just something you really, really. And Boston right
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: down the road, of course, is huge. It's fun. Everybody
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: should do that. You're there placing us in the 17th century,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: in the 1600s. Right. And I'm really fast. I mean,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: before even people thought about America, we were colonies, the
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: first colonizers colonized. I have a pretty good amount of
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: family on my dad's side in Virginia and North Carolina.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: And I can't tell you anything more fascinating I've done
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: than going to the Outer Banks of North Carolina and
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: to like Jamestown in Virginia. This is like 1607 and such.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: The first for we're talking John Smith Pocahontas type stuff. And,
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: of course, Williamsburg eventually descends from that. These are some
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: of the most interesting things people can do as well.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: And it's just a fascinating thing to do. So there's–
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: have you ever done this? So it's funny. American history.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: You talked about London. So Tower of London is like
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: a thousand years ago, right, ish?
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: And then a trip you and I have both made.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Jerusalem says, hold my beer. I know. Because I'm sitting
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: there and I'm talking about all the stuff that's in
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Texas from the mid-1800s in America in the mid-1700s. You
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: go to Israel and they go, we have convenience stores
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: that are that old. And they are, of course, correct
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: about that because it's just this. I tell you one thing.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Have you ever done? I don't think you have. You
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: would have told me. Do you want to do the
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: pyramids or just kind of go to the pyramids and go, okay,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: what do I do now?
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: No interest. No interest in the pyramids.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I'm fascinated by them. How did they do that?
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I know. How did they get that? I know.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: But I guess that doesn't mean I need to pony
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: up the money to go to Cairo and Giza and
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: whatever else. But I am kind of fascinated.
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  Speaker 2: Very good. And what a busy week. This has been
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, not at all. It's so funny.
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