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Pregnant Teen Discovers Mom Killed Her Boyfriend · The conspiracy

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  Speaker 1: No here, I tell you.
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  Speaker 2: This is seventeen year old Elizabeth Bablonado. A few hours ago,
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  Speaker 2: her boyfriend was found mysteriously shot dead in a back alley.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah person.
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  Speaker 2: Tragically, Elizabeth is also pregnant with their child. Her mother,
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  Speaker 2: Ortiz Chavez, is trying to comfort her daughter. What Elizabeth
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: doesn't know yet is that her mother is hiding a
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  Speaker 2: dark secret that will ruin the family's life.
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  Speaker 4: Your mom's car is on video leaving the homicide. You
• 0:46
  Speaker 4: seriously think that they did it? Yes, my mom, My
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  Speaker 4: mom loved that child.
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  Speaker 2: As detectives work the case, more and more clues start
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  Speaker 2: pointing towards Elizabeth's family, and as she learns that her
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: own family are now suspected did killers. All she can
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  Speaker 2: do is deny the accusations, while her mother sacrifices her
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  Speaker 2: own children to hide what she's done. It's a quiet
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  Speaker 2: Friday morning in downtown Albuquerque. The sixteen year old boy
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  Speaker 2: walks alone through a back alley on his way to work,
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  Speaker 2: unaware that a killer is waiting for him inside one
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  Speaker 2: of the parked cars. Then a single gunshot rings out,
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  Speaker 2: striking the teenager in the head and killing him instantly.
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  Speaker 2: While the shooter disappears from the scene. Within minutes, multiple
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  Speaker 2: nine one one calls start flooding in reporting the gunfire.
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  Speaker 2: Patrol units quickly respond to the area, and as officers
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  Speaker 2: turn down the alley, there met with a grim scene.
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  Speaker 2: Lying on the pavement is a teenage boyceless with blood
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  Speaker 2: pulling beneath his head. The victim shows no signs of
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  Speaker 2: life and appears to have a gunshot wound visible just
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  Speaker 2: above his temple. Whatever happened in this alley happened fast,
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  Speaker 2: and whoever pulled the trigger is already gone. Officers call
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  Speaker 2: it in and begin securing the perimeter. With no weapon
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  Speaker 2: in sight and no idea on the body, they now
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  Speaker 2: need to figure out who he is and why he
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  Speaker 2: ended up here. Backup units soon arrive and start canvassing
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  Speaker 2: the area, looking for anyone who might have heard or
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  Speaker 2: seen what happened, and before long, two witnesses come forward
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  Speaker 2: claiming they saw something strange right after the gunshot.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't hear any one of them is a light
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  Speaker 5: skin male.
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  Speaker 6: He turns around, runs back to the alley, and takes
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  Speaker 6: off down the street.
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  Speaker 7: I just saw clouds that aren't actually here.
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  Speaker 3: I've just wanted sir I notice weird activity and.
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  Speaker 8: Wrenching feeling that someone was about to get shot, because
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  Speaker 8: they were just weird people here.
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  Speaker 7: And I saw this kid this here shot.
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  Speaker 3: He was over here talking to some girl. And this
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  Speaker 3: last minute I saw him there.
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  Speaker 8: I turned the corner in a gretty gunshot when I
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  Speaker 8: was on this side of the roads, and I came
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  Speaker 8: back over here.
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  Speaker 7: His cart was down here.
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  Speaker 2: According to witnesses, a single gunshot was fired, followed by
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  Speaker 2: a group of teenagers scrambling in every direction. One of
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  Speaker 2: them was seen jumping into a car with a girl
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  Speaker 2: before speeding away. The information is vague, but it gives
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  Speaker 2: police a starting point. Detectives soon arrive at the scene
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  Speaker 2: and launch a formal homicide investigation. While examining the body,
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  Speaker 2: they noticed something odd about the victim. He's still wearing
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: an apron, the kind used by restaurant staff, suggesting he
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  Speaker 2: might have worked nearby. That small detail sends them straight
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  Speaker 2: across the street to the only restaurant insight, Lindy's Diner. Inside,
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  Speaker 2: the owners immediately recognized the victim. His name is hose
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  Speaker 2: Way Jay Rui's sixteen years old, a dishwasher who'd only
• 4:04
  Speaker 2: started a few weeks earlier, They tell police Jay's grandfather
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  Speaker 2: is a regular customer, and officers are able to call
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  Speaker 2: him and ask him to come down to the scene.
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  Speaker 2: When Jay's grandfather arrives, detectives have to break the tragic
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  Speaker 2: news to him, but what he tells them about Jay's
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  Speaker 2: life will start to hint at darker things he may
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  Speaker 2: have been involved in.
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  Speaker 9: So I don't know if anybody's told you this, and
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  Speaker 9: I was trying to see if yours.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, vice pass.
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  Speaker 9: So that's that's what we're here for us. We're here
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  Speaker 9: to try to figure out what happened and try to
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  Speaker 9: do the best we can.
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  Speaker 5: I say, he's your grandson.
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  Speaker 10: It's incorrect, okay, he was involved with such as I
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  Speaker 10: have never to get the truth for hims.
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  Speaker 5: There was one friend that he was involved with that,
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  Speaker 5: you know.
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  Speaker 7: I really.
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  Speaker 3: I was ready to bumble them out or contain somewhere
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  Speaker 3: out job.
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  Speaker 2: Although the news clearly breaks him, he takes it with
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  Speaker 2: quiet strength, telling detectives that his grandson had been involved
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  Speaker 2: in something lately that might be what got him killed,
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  Speaker 2: and as the conversation continues, he mentions one more heartbreaking detail.
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  Speaker 2: Jay wasn't just a teenager with secrets he was about
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  Speaker 2: to become a father.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, at your apartment right now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: He called me this morning and told me eight great graf.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's mad. She's at your apartment right now. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The revelation only adds to the tragedy. Jay's girlfriend, seventeen
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  Speaker 2: year old Elizabeth Baldonado, is pregnant with his child and
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  Speaker 2: has no idea that he's gone. Investigators plan to speak
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  Speaker 2: with her later, but for now, they allow Jay's grandfather
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  Speaker 2: to leave the scene and deliver the news himself, telling
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  Speaker 2: her that detectives will be in touch soon. If anyone
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  Speaker 2: can explain what Jay had been caught up in, it's her.
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  Speaker 2: About an hour later, the homicide case is officially assigned
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  Speaker 2: to Detective Anna Bruciaga as the lead investigator. After reviewing
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  Speaker 2: the initial reports and witness statements, she begins canvassing the
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  Speaker 2: area for any surveillance footage that might reveal what happened.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't take long before officers locate a camera mounted
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  Speaker 2: outside a nearby school, angled directly towards the alley where
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  Speaker 2: the shooting took place. When they sit down to review
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  Speaker 2: the footage, they finally get their first visual clue of
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  Speaker 2: Jay's killers.
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  Speaker 1: Such as their warrior.
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  Speaker 3: This face is the alleyway once the shot.
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  Speaker 1: Happened to see people looking the vehicle react since the
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  Speaker 1: individual walts the vehiclewhere right here? So he just walked
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  Speaker 1: to the passenger side and they react.
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  Speaker 2: On screen, a gold Toyota Sedan can be seen racing
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  Speaker 2: away seconds after the gunshot, and through the tinted glass,
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  Speaker 2: detectives can barely make out what appears to be two
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  Speaker 2: figures inside the vehicle, meaning there are at least two
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  Speaker 2: suspects on the loose. A couple of hours later, detectives
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  Speaker 2: arrive at the apartment where Jay's girlfriend Elizabeth is staying.
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  Speaker 2: They believe she might help them understand what Jay had
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  Speaker 2: been caught up in, but they have no idea that
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  Speaker 2: they'll soon come face to face with one of Jay's killers,
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  Speaker 2: someone far closer to him than anyone imagined you might
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  Speaker 2: have been.
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  Speaker 12: Coming here.
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  Speaker 3: Or to your loss. I know that obviously he was
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  Speaker 3: not possibly having some issues atself before, right? Can you
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  Speaker 3: tell me about that?
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  Speaker 12: He doesn't tell me much about it, So let's start
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  Speaker 12: like today, Why did.
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  Speaker 13: I do the thing?
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  Speaker 12: He took shower at eight o'clock. He was getting ready
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  Speaker 12: to go to work at ten. I was making appointments
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  Speaker 12: today because we found out that that I am pregnant. Well,
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  Speaker 12: he was texting me still until at least around twelve o'clock,
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  Speaker 12: and then he stopped answering me for a few hours.
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  Speaker 2: The timeline Elizabeth provides the lines up with the shooting
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  Speaker 2: around eleven twenty am is when Jay stopped responding to
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  Speaker 2: her messages the same time investigators believe he was killed.
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  Speaker 2: Beyond that, Elizabeth doesn't offer much, saying Jay often kept
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  Speaker 2: to himself and never told her what he was doing.
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  Speaker 2: To detectives, it sounds like Jay might have gotten himself
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  Speaker 2: involved in something he didn't want anyone else to know about,
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  Speaker 2: maybe a deal that went wrong or a confrontation that escalated,
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  Speaker 2: and whatever it was, it's likely what got him killed,
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  Speaker 2: or at least that's what it seems at first, because
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  Speaker 2: Elizabeth isn't telling the full story, not yet, and the
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  Speaker 2: next thing she remembers won't just give detectives a new lead,
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  Speaker 2: it'll start turning suspicion towards Elizabeth and her own family.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit from what I got gathered from Grandpa
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  Speaker 3: is that he feels that he was up to no
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  Speaker 3: good lately. Can you tell me about that?
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  Speaker 12: This morning?
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  Speaker 13: Him and my brother were supposed to box it out.
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  Speaker 13: Because this has nothing to do with this at all.
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  Speaker 13: My brother and him just don't get along. They bump
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  Speaker 13: heads very much. But my brother would never do this.
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  Speaker 12: He knows how I feel much. And which brother, my
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  Speaker 12: younger brother, younger brother.
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  Speaker 3: What's Angelo talked a little bit about why they were.
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  Speaker 12: Going to box it out O me and Jay. We
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  Speaker 12: were arguing about something. I don't remember.
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  Speaker 3: What, but we started getting really loud and my.
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  Speaker 12: Brother got tired of it, so he came in and
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  Speaker 12: told him to stop yelling at me, and then they.
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  Speaker 3: Just started fighting, physically fighting. No, no, no, So did
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  Speaker 3: they text each other that they were going to.
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  Speaker 13: Fight or no?
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  Speaker 12: Jay called me and told my mom that he wanted
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  Speaker 12: to box it out with my brother.
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  Speaker 2: According to Elizabeth, her brother Angelo was supposed to box
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  Speaker 2: it out with her boyfriend Jay that morning, a teenage
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  Speaker 2: fight meant to settle whatever tension had been building between them.
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  Speaker 2: Although the fight never happened and Elizabeth insists it has
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  Speaker 2: nothing to do with the homicide, it suggests the conflict
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  Speaker 2: could have been personal. Investigators will now have to follow
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  Speaker 2: up on this and look into Angelo's involvement before ruling
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  Speaker 2: him out. But before the conversation can continue any further
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  Speaker 2: with Elizabeth, Jay's family arrives at the apartment. Word of
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  Speaker 2: the shooting has already reached them, but they still haven't
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  Speaker 2: received an official confirmation from police. Detective Anna Bruciaga has
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  Speaker 2: no choice but to break the tragic news to Jay's mother,
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  Speaker 2: a moment that no amount of experience could ever prepare
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  Speaker 2: anyone for.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, for some formal loss.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, right now, I don't have much other than users
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  Speaker 7: were dispatched to the alleyway in reference to.
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  Speaker 3: What happened, so we just bo called out. That's why
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to interview as many people as I can.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I headed here first, because I do have
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  Speaker 1: some questions, but as of right now, I don't, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I really.
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  Speaker 2: With the devastating news delivered, Detective Anna Bruciaga tries to
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  Speaker 2: gather any insight from Jay's family, but they don't seem
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  Speaker 2: to have any Even his mother can't imagine who would
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  Speaker 2: want to hurt him, leaving detectives with no clear leads
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  Speaker 2: or motives to work with. As investigators collect Jay's phone
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  Speaker 2: and prepare to leave. Another woman walks into the apartment
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  Speaker 2: or tease Chavez, looking to comfort her daughter. Detective Bruciaga
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  Speaker 2: sits down with her to collect some basic information, a
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  Speaker 2: casual conversation at first, until Chavez mentions a small detail
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  Speaker 2: that catches the detective's attention and quietly puts her on
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  Speaker 2: the race.
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  Speaker 14: Are yeah, just purchases purchased it on it?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah? No, they took it off the car where you
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  Speaker 8: said it's all yeah, so earlier this morning it broke
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  Speaker 8: down on her and then she just left it there.
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  Speaker 2: As Chavez describes her vehicle, Detective bruce Yaga immediately recognizes
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  Speaker 2: the description, a gold Toyota Sedan, similar to the one
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  Speaker 2: called on surveillance footage speeding away just seconds after the shooting.
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  Speaker 2: The connection is hard to ignore. Bruceiaga notes the details,
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  Speaker 2: but decides it's too early to jump to conclusions. Wanting
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  Speaker 2: to verify it as quickly as possible. She wraps up
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  Speaker 2: the initial interview with the family and heads out with
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  Speaker 2: officers to the spot where Chavez abandoned her car that morning.
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  Speaker 2: When they arrive, the car is nowhere to be found,
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  Speaker 2: and bruce Aga starts suspecting Chavez might be hiding something.
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  Speaker 2: About forty minutes later, investigators returned to the apartment to
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  Speaker 2: interview Chavez privately, and that's when things start to get interesting.
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  Speaker 2: By now, it's only been a few hours since Jay
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  Speaker 2: was killed, and most detectives would still be collecting statements,
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  Speaker 2: but bruce y AGA's instincts tell her there's no time
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  Speaker 2: to waste, so she sits down with Chavez and makes
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  Speaker 2: a bold accusation.
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  Speaker 3: So here's the thing. Okay, so.
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  Speaker 5: I believe.
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  Speaker 3: Your car was used in today's homicide. Okay, you're not.
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  Speaker 15: No, I am not.
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  Speaker 7: That's why key to you. Okay, So if you don't
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  Speaker 7: tell me who had your car, I don't know it's
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  Speaker 7: your car?
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  Speaker 3: Lift my car, I'd rude. Okay, I didn't lend my
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  Speaker 3: car and away.
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  Speaker 2: Detective bruce Yaga is quick to connect the dots, suspecting
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  Speaker 2: that it's Chavez's car that was speeding away, but Chavez
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  Speaker 2: claims she abandoned it and it must have been stolen. However,
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  Speaker 2: the detective is about to take things one step further,
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  Speaker 2: because if Chavez's car was used in the murder, the
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  Speaker 2: next logical question is who was behind the wheel and
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  Speaker 2: with what Elizabeth revealed about the planned fight that morning.
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  Speaker 2: There's only one name that fits Chavez's son, Angelo.
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  Speaker 7: So what I'm getting at is that, what are the
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  Speaker 7: odds they your son and his friends have a problem
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  Speaker 7: with Gee and gay is now did and people are
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  Speaker 7: telling me it's your car on scene. But my son Siddy,
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  Speaker 7: wouldn't I think?
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  Speaker 12: And I was list him to day.
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  Speaker 3: So you were with them all day?
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  Speaker 11: Yes, my son had an interview at my club and
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  Speaker 11: we were up at the water over there.
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  Speaker 3: You drop them off, No, I didn't leave the later perker, okay.
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  Speaker 3: So you waited for him to.
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  Speaker 11: Be done, yes, And we're going back together to my house, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Then you guys go back to the house, okay. And
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  Speaker 3: we stayed there and.
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  Speaker 13: I led with myself the car to go see Elizabeth.
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  Speaker 2: Chavez's morning timeline only reinforces the detective's suspicions. If she
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  Speaker 2: really abandoned her car around ten thirty that morning and
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  Speaker 2: it's suddenly vanished, then there's a very high chance it's
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  Speaker 2: the same gold Toyota caught on CCTV later when Jay
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  Speaker 2: was shot. Witnesses also reported seeing a young male and
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  Speaker 2: female inside the car, and with Chavez having both a
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  Speaker 2: teenage son Angelo and a daughter Elizabeth. Things are starting
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  Speaker 2: to look very suspicious for her family. For now, though
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  Speaker 2: all of this remains as just early suspicion. After all,
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  Speaker 2: detectives know Jay had been hiding things, He was secretive
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  Speaker 2: and clearly mixed up in something he wasn't telling anyone about.
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  Speaker 2: But there's something eerily strange about Chavez's demeanor that Detective
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  Speaker 2: Bruce Yaga can't ignore. Even after being told her son
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  Speaker 2: might be involved in a homicide, she stays quiet, almost detached.
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  Speaker 2: Not the kind of reaction you'd expect from a mother
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  Speaker 2: facing that sort of accusation, And the longer the conversation goes,
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  Speaker 2: the more convinced Bruce Iyaga becomes that the mother sitting
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  Speaker 2: in front of her knows more than she's letting on.
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  Speaker 2: So the detective decides to take an even bigger risk
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  Speaker 2: this time and make an accusation that most investigators would
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  Speaker 2: hesitate to ask this early on.
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  Speaker 3: So did you shoot?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 3: I didn't close. No, he's a cute baby, I know,
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  Speaker 3: but somebody did.
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  Speaker 7: But I.
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  Speaker 10: No.
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  Speaker 3: But I also feel like you know more than your
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  Speaker 3: te me.
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  Speaker 7: And because again I'm telling you based on your demeanor,
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  Speaker 7: I think, who know what happened? And I know it's
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  Speaker 7: your car, and I am going to confirm it on
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  Speaker 7: video surveillance.
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  Speaker 3: Really I'd like be lost right now.
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  Speaker 2: Again, Chavez's reaction isn't what Detective Bruceiyaga expects at all.
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  Speaker 2: Instead of breaking down or reacting defensively, she simply denies
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  Speaker 2: it with a sorrowful face. This response leaves Bruce Yoga
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  Speaker 2: torn between two possibilities. Either Chavez is innocent but in
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: complete shock, struggling to process what's happening, or she's carefully
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  Speaker 2: keeping her composure to hide a guilty conscience and protect
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  Speaker 2: her children. Either way, she sticks to her story, and
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: with nothing concrete so far, the interview comes to an end.
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  Speaker 2: But even without proof, Bruce Yaga can't shake the feeling
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  Speaker 2: that her instincts are right, that one of Jay's killers
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  Speaker 2: is sitting in this very part it meant. With her
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: doubts only growing, Bruce Iaga decides to move quickly and
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  Speaker 2: verify Chaveza's version of events with the one person who
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  Speaker 2: can either confirm or contradict it, her son Angelo. Within
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: an hour, investigators head straight to Angelo's workplace to talk
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  Speaker 2: to him in person. Whatever he tells detectives will either
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: clear his family or make things even worse for them.
• 19:25
  Speaker 8: So there was a tuning downtown today and somebody died.
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  Speaker 3: So I know that you knew.
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  Speaker 16: Him, So I I think he was actually somebody that
• 19:34
  Speaker 16: you knew because he was.
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  Speaker 3: Dating your sister. So legit, yeah you.
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  Speaker 16: No, he he said, So I just wanted to find
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  Speaker 16: out you just a little bit. Okay, yeah for sure,
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  Speaker 16: So explain to me what this whole life your mom
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  Speaker 16: and your sister explained, like this feast between you and jail.
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  Speaker 15: So explain that, RECLUSI So, like I said, we had
• 20:01
  Speaker 15: at this settle on.
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  Speaker 7: The fire and then we didn't really like to talk
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  Speaker 7: after that.
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  Speaker 3: That's a lazy guy.
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  Speaker 7: So your sister tells your mom and your mom tells
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  Speaker 7: you home.
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  Speaker 3: That j wants to fight. So why don't you guys
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: find to me. I didn't play nothing, he assumed. Then
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  Speaker 3: was is fighting?
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  Speaker 13: We're good.
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  Speaker 3: We had all the stool we had on this us.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: So if I great, You said you wanna do be
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: talk today? Yeah? Yeah, and she you me and your
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: mom said wrestling.
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: Tell me that's what Jakes on me, Like, that's what
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  Speaker 7: James told to tell them, sister to tell me us
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  Speaker 7: so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 3: This I got told on some h So you're SP's
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  Speaker 3: supposed to be? Where were you guys supposed to meet?
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  Speaker 3: You just said you more a fighter. You don't talk
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  Speaker 3: from the room, so I assumed you have Mary Lord.
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  Speaker 2: Angelo confirms most of what detectives have already heard from
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  Speaker 2: his sister and mother, saying Jay wanted to box it
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: out that morning, but the fight never happened. Beyond that,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: there isn't much new information, and his version of events
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: lines up neatly with his mother's timeline. For now, their
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: stories seem consistent, but until those details can be verified,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Detective Bruce Iyaga knows she has to take everything they've
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: said at face value. However, before investigators can dig deeper,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Angelo's mother suddenly walks in, and this time she's far
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: less cooperative.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: He's not gonna wake, not be talking to me.
• 21:34
  Speaker 16: He said he's double, so he doesn't he doesn't have
• 21:38
  Speaker 16: to be eighteen part of the box lid and so oh.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: I mean it's up to him if he doesn't want
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: to hear he doesn't have Yeah, this is and I had.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: So there is.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: We are going to need to like you tell them
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: your sister.
• 21:55
  Speaker 14: We're going to get here, so we're gonna stake care.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: I read it.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: I don't have a phone, but yeah, your daughter has
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: an investigation.
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: Like I explained to you, yet familiar, Elizabeth, I'm taking
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: your phone. You're not giving about Angela love it, but
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: as soon as I'm done with it, I will give
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: it back to you.
• 22:12
  Speaker 16: You want going to take you to a fine where
• 22:13
  Speaker 16: your farm's left, because we've been all over there but
• 22:15
  Speaker 16: we can't fight it anywhere.
• 22:16
  Speaker 11: Well, I'm gonna go, s you look, but I want
• 22:19
  Speaker 11: to shut my kids, get my pabile, get home, and
• 22:22
  Speaker 11: might not.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: My biggest concern is what's your first.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: You Absolutely, despite investigators attempts to convince her otherwise, Chavez
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: insists on taking Angelo home. Even if her intentions are innocent,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: This sudden change in behavior doesn't help their case at all.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: If anything, it makes it look like an attempt to
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: shield her son from further questioning. With the interview shut down,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: officers seize the family's phones, hoping digital evidence might reveal
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: what they're not saying out loud. Back at the police station,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: detectives spend the next couple of weeks combing through statements
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: surveillance footage and phone data. What they find begins to
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: reshape the entire case. Among the first discoveries are text
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: messages showing that Chavez was directly involved in arranging the
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: so called boxing match between her son Angelo and her
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: daughter's boyfriend Jay. In one exchange, Elizabeth texts Jay saying
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: that mom says they'll be there at eight. Other messages
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: suggest there may have been a gun involved. In one text,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Elizabeth writes, I'll be there too because I don't want
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: anything like they pull a gun out. Investigators also uncover
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: signs that Jay and Elizabeth's relationship was deteriorating, with both
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: of them talking about breaking up. In one message, Jay
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: tells her directly, I'll talk to you when it comes
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: to the baby, but I ain't doing this with you anymore.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: But even more alarming were the contradictions in the family's statements.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Elizabeth told detectives her boyfriend didn't leave the house until
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: ten that morning, yet Jay's phone shows him to texting
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: others about Angelo not showing up as early as eight o'clock.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: In one of those messages, Jay texts a friend they
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: didn't show eight o'clock, the mom said, and it's nine man.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Her family's a bunch of earls, I swear. Additionally, detectives
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: uncover another name that hadn't come up before, Elizabeth's older brother, Gilbert.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: In his messages, Gilbert expresses anger towards Jay and even
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: makes promises of retaliation. By the end of the review,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Detective Bruce Iaga becomes convinced that the entire family might
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: be involved in planning what happened that day. Now it's
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: no longer a question of what happened, but who did
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: it and exactly why. In the days following Jay's murder,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: investigators were at a standstill because Angelo and Elizabeth are
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: still miners. Their mother refuses to let them speak with police,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: effectively blocking detectives from getting any answers directly from them.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: But twenty days after the shooting, that changes. Jay's girlfriend,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Elizabeth Baldonado, turns eighteen years old and her mother can
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: no longer stop her from talking. Detective Bruciaga seizes the
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: opportunity and convinces her to come down to the station
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: to see the new evidence they've uncovered, carefully leaving out
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: that it's evidence pointing towards her own family. The goal
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: is simple find out who was directly involved in Jay's killing, or,
• 25:26
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• 26:32
  Speaker 2: detectives plan to double down on the accusations instead of
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: playing knights. But this will soon backfire because, unlike her mother,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Elizabeth's reaction will be very different.
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: Well, it sometime has passed and you have time to
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: think about it, Elizabeth.
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: I want to.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Hear what helped, because I think you know more than
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: you told me.
• 26:54
  Speaker 10: Daddy.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: I don't know anything. I really don't. Why would you
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: guys soon that? No, Why would I know anything new
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: about that?
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: Because I have your phones and I've looked through your phones,
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: and so I do believe you know more.
• 27:11
  Speaker 13: What would I know more about about who killed him?
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: About ye, who did it? No, I don't know. I
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: really don't know who did it.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: If I knew who did it, I would have told
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: you already.
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: So I know that you and him were having some
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: problems and he broke up with you, and you wanted
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: to get back with him, and he told you no,
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: I will talk to you when it comes to the baby,
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: but that is it.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: And he wanted nothing to do with you. So you'res
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: that I had someone do something in him. Okay, here's
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: the thing.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I'd realized to investigate anything in the world.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: I would never do anything like that.
• 27:52
  Speaker 13: I would never have anyone do anything like that because
• 27:55
  Speaker 13: I loved him more than my whole life.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: And actually I do know that because you guys text
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: and I love you so much tons, So I do
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: know that.
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: Okay, but you have to understand, Elizabeth, I'm investigating his homicide.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Somebody killed him. Okay. Have you ever watched homicide shows?
• 28:15
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, so you have to know that if any
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: if I see anything like that on the phone, you
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: have to know that.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: I have to ask you these questions because.
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: At this point I have gone through your phone, I
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: have gone through your brother's phone, I have gone through
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: Swiss phone, I have gone through other things, and I
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: have to ask these questions because I have a feeling
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: you know more than you're telling you.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: I don't. I really don't. I don't know anything more
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: than I'm telling you.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: As planned, there is no small talk or warm up.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Right away, Detective brucei Aga tells Elizabeth she's not being
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: fully honest. The approach is blunt and it's clearly hitting
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: a nerve. As Elizabeth quickly grows defensive, Bruce Iyaga isn't
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: backing off just yet. She's about to bet everything on
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: her next move, laying out every piece of evidence she
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: has against the family in hopes of eliciting an admission
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: from Elizabeth.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: So you brought up that your brother, Gilbert had mentioned
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: and said that he was gonna send someone up there
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: that take care.
• 29:21
  Speaker 13: But he didn't because my brother knows that if he
• 29:25
  Speaker 13: were to do anything, I would never speak to him
• 29:27
  Speaker 13: again or at all.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: I would have him part of my life at all.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: So Gilbert didn't do it. Why would my brother do it?
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: My brother literally knows how I feel about about him.
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure you've been in the household and have
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: heard conversations, correct heard what anything he and I talked about.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: They do not talk about anything. Okay, So where is
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: your mom's card? I don't know.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: You're seriously assuming that one of my family members did
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: it because mar is missing.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: She literally filed a report that her car was missing
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: that night. Okay.
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: So you say you love post Away, right, and he's
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: the love of your life. So why are you covering
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: for your mom and your brother?
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: I'm not covering for anybody. Are you fucking serious? You
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: seriously think that they did it. Yes, my mom, My
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: mom loved that child too.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Okay, maybe not.
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: But what if my brother will What if I told
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: you that your mom's car is.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: On video leaving the homicide.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: What if I told you that I know how many
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: Toyota Camrays that are gold living in the city.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: But what are the odds that your brother and my
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: brother was at home. My brother was at home with
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: his girlfriend. They were literally sleeping until he had to
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: go to work.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: It's clear that Elizabeth has reached her breaking point. Every
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: accusation towards her family is pushing her closer to the edge.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Most investigators would pull back here, take a break, try
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: to deescalate, but not Detective Bruceiaga. Instead, she decides to
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: take a bigger risk, one that's bold but calculated. Rather
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: than fighting Elizabeth's denials, she will lean into them, even
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: agreeing that she's only trying to protect her family and
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: doing so, Bruce Iaga wants to make Elizabeth feel safe
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: enough to talk and reveal what she's really hiding. It's
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: a delicate psychological play, one that could end the interview
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: entirely or solve the case right here and now.
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: But I'm gonna tell you right now that your mom
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: said she drove Angelo to his interview.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Guess what Angelo said.
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: He borrowed the car from your mom and he drove
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: himself to the interview. So honestly, somebody's lying. And I
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: kind of understand that you don't want to.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: See no one who they did not do it, because
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: you were literally working in the real place.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: You're just trying to blame somebody just so they can
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: get someone for the crime. I know they didn't do
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: it because well I don't know for sure, but I
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: know they wouldn't have done something like that.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: They know how much that would crush me.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: And literally they have seen how much I have died.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: These past two weeks.
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: Okay, I'm telling you, if I find out your brother,
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: I'm telling you, when I gather up all my evidence
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: and I arrest your brother.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: I hope that you didn't know more. You mess can think, however,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: you like my family, did not do it.
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: Elizabeth, you can't get out with how of flutting you
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: out there.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: I think you're ready to tell me more than you're challenging.
• 32:54
  Speaker 10: Okay, you have to know, soli Isabeth, that somebody took
• 33:00
  Speaker 10: your baby's dad's life, and now that baby is not
• 33:03
  Speaker 10: gonna have a father, And as much as you love
• 33:06
  Speaker 10: your family, they still tell her, your baby's dag away.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Now that baby's not gonna have a dad.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: I'm going.
• 33:21
  Speaker 15: We will.
• 33:26
  Speaker 14: And we finished talking in the conference room.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Just because I can't hear, actually we can't. We can't
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: be sitting in the hallway, Elizabeth. I'm sorry, this is
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: our victim's side.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: So Elizabeth's finally had enough. The weight of the questioning
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: breaks her down and she's emotionally exhausted. Detectives try to
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: take advantage of the moment, hoping her vulnerability and will
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: make her open up, but Elizabeth doesn't budge through tears,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: she keeps insisting her family is innocent. With nothing useful
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: coming from Elizabeth, the interview ends, She's escorted out of
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: the building and investigators are back to square one. Still,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Detective Bruce Iaga can't shake her suspicions. She knows this
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: family is hiding something. What she hasn't figured out yet
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: is that she's been focusing on the wrong suspects all along.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Over the next couple of months, the case remains wide open.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Investigators keep digging, and what they find is even more alarming. First,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: they learn that Chavez never followed through with her stolen
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: vehicle report from the day of the murder. Then, while
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: coming through phone data, detectives uncover explicit threats from Elizabeth's
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: older brother Gilbert, directed at Jay. In one message, Gilbert
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: writes He's gonna catch one, clearly hinting at plans for violence.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: In another text, he says delete our messages and don't
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: say anything about me, saying I was gonna shoot him.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: It wasn't me for real, I ain't trying to deal
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: with cops. Based on these details, investigat start to speculate
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: that Gilbert may have taken things further, possibly supplying a
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: gun or even using it himself to shoot Jay. Chavez,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: realizing what her sons had done, may have then disposed
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: of the car to cover their tracks and build an
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: alibi for the family. The new findings push Gilbert to
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: the top of the suspect list, right beside his brother Angelo,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: but as compelling as the theory sounds, it's still just
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: that a theory. The case remains strong on suspicion but
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: weak on proof, and detective Bruce Yaga desperately needs anything
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: concrete from the Baldonado family. So on May nineteenth, seventy
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: six days after Jay's murder, Bruce Yaga and a team
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: of officers head to the family's house, determined to confront
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: them face to face and see if she can pressure
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: someone into cracking. When the investigators arrive at the door,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: no one expects how quickly things will get heated.
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: Oh, hi, Gilbert, how are you? Can I actually talk
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: to you?
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Gilbert?
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: You know what it's about, because you know I've already
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: done some research.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna talk to you right here in the door.
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: Do you want to come talk to me over here? Hi? Elizabeth,
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: how are you good? Okay?
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Is your mom here?
• 36:14
  Speaker 12: She's showering.
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: You might want to go tell your mom that I
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: would like to talk to her again. I'm gonna talk
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: to Gilbert if he's willing to speak with me. And
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: Gilbert again, I don't want to talk to you right
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: here in front of the door. Do you mind coming
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: even over here? So tell me what you know? Like
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: I said, Okay, So I'm I'm not gonna play games
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: with you. Okay. I know you threatened to take care
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: offul sweat. Yeah, but I didn't do what I was here, okay,
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: so obviously you do you know why I'm here and
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: why I'm talking to you now you want to discuss
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: or do you want me to just take it for
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: a face value? I already saw the Facebook, so.
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: I mean.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: So you can do whatever I and.
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: You see it, so okay. So again in your Facebook
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: you do disclosed and say you're gonna send somebody to
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: take care of him. Yeah, okay, So well who would
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: you send because he died and I said nobody. Do
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: I need to be any clear? He died?
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I didn't send nobody, and nobody want to
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: do it. They're all scared.
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: Can I see your phone?
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Can I see your phone?
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: Thank you? It's a T mobile. Okay, I'm gonna take it.
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna do it, warring on it. Okay, I didn't
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: take my hat. Yes, again, you have to realize that
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: I'm investigating a homicide, okay, a homicide in which you
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: threatened to kill my victims.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: So you're gonna take my phone?
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: Yes, I'm gonna take your phone. I'm gonna do it,
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: warrant on it. If for any reason, I.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Say you want to see something something, but it's all.
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: Something, okay, well, I won't look at pictures, but I
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: am interested in who you've been talking to, text messages
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: and so on, So I am going to do a
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: warrant on it. Okay.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: With no luck getting anything useful from Gilbert, Detective Bruce
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Yoga cleverly confiscates his phone, hoping it might hold the
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: evidence she needs, but still can't prove. As this is happening,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Chavez is seen stepping outside and speaking briefly with officers.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: She looks like she's in a hurry to leave, not
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: willing to let the moment slip away. Detective Bruce Yaga
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: plans to intercept and confront her about the boxing match
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: she helped organize to see how she reacts when cornered.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: This time, however, Chavez isn't the same calm, collected woman
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: from before. What Bruce Yoga gets instead is a very
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: different side of her.
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: Good ye, can I talk to you really fast?
• 38:50
  Speaker 11: I have to catch the bus, so I mean it
• 38:53
  Speaker 11: got you got fu okay, fancy.
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: Thank you, Gilbert, Thank you for speaking with me. Have
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: a good day you check in with you, Hi, Elizabeth.
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: I know You're gonna be quick and all, but so
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: you know why I'm here. Okay, I don't. I don't
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: got to repeat myself. I don't. I don't want to
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: repeat myself. I don't want to play games. Is that
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: confirmation number from when I had called? Because I called
• 39:18
  Speaker 7: that same evening and you did. You didn't report your card?
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: I did?
• 39:23
  Speaker 7: Yes, it is. I already know.
• 39:24
  Speaker 11: Okay, you know I'm not trying to meet with you,
• 39:26
  Speaker 11: but this is the confirmation number.
• 39:28
  Speaker 7: So why did why did you set up a fight
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: between Angelo and Josue? No? No, no, no, yes you did?
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: No no, no, I have like all over. He called
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: to the house. He was asking for a fie. I
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: was like, wait a minute, what do you want to do?
• 39:40
  Speaker 7: What I was like, are you serious? Was it that
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: any want to sit there and do some stupid things.
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: I'm not trying to have stupid things going between those boys.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Those boys get along.
• 39:49
  Speaker 7: Like I said, I had phones. I already know which
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: when you called it in, you never fully followed through.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: I did.
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: I waited for them to get here. Okay, do you
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: have the title to the vehicle. It's in that vehicle.
• 39:59
  Speaker 11: That's what I was trying to tell y'all, Like, I
• 40:01
  Speaker 11: cannot give it any more information.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Because it was in the basic.
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: I don't think that's register to gout or anything.
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: You've had the Carsons before January. Yeah, and I also
• 40:08
  Speaker 7: had to get an alternated fart.
• 40:10
  Speaker 11: You know how much money it takes to just be
• 40:11
  Speaker 11: the same for just a little bit of fue things.
• 40:13
  Speaker 11: But the little boy he called, he wanted to make
• 40:16
  Speaker 11: the fight right.
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: I'm not saying I'm not saying os I didn't set
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: the fight, but you let them know, and you set
• 40:23
  Speaker 7: up the fight because they were gonna fight out.
• 40:26
  Speaker 11: No, because they had to know.
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: I'm like, this was going on when your sister's left it.
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: What do you think about this?
• 40:31
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I'd let them know because they needed to know,
• 40:33
  Speaker 11: because that's all right.
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: So I'm gonna tell you something, okay, Yeah, my five minues,
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: I'm done. Well, I'm going to tell you something. Okay,
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: when I charge someone, you're going to be charged along,
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: because I know you're hiding the truth and I know
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: you're listening to me, and it would suck for Aurora
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: and Elizabeth's baby to not be present, for you not
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: to be present, because I will charge you because I
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: do know you were going to set up that fight
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: that day. The end, Lady bomb, I got it off
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: your daughter's phone. Goodbye.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Clearly Chavez is done talking as she storms off the scene,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: angry and defensive, but in her frustration, she lets something slip,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: admitting that she knew about the fight between Jay and
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: her sons, though she insists it was all Jay's idea.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Before leaving the house, Bruce i Aga tries once more
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: to speak with Elizabeth to see if she's finally ready
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: to tell the truth.
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: How you been, Elizabeth mine? Are you still pregnant?
• 41:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 41:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah? How far along are you well from my missal cycles?
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: She said, fourteen weeks?
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: So, Elizabeth, you know we talked last time, and I
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: know you're very upset, and I can't imagine what you're
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: going through because you're kind of put in between. But
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: I already know you know what happened.
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 42:02
  Speaker 12: I don't know what happened at all.
• 42:04
  Speaker 16: Although I know is that when his grandpa got back,
• 42:06
  Speaker 16: he told me that James dead.
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: I would just hate and I truly, from the bottom
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: of my heart, still believed that you weren't involved. But
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: I would just hate to find out that you were involved.
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: And then where does that baby go? Because he no
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: longer has it? At that day, there is a witness
• 42:23
  Speaker 7: that describes a female matching your exact description talking to
• 42:26
  Speaker 7: house swear before he gets shot.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: I was at the house.
• 42:30
  Speaker 7: Do you realize how close do you live? I was
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: literally again, Elizabeth, listen to me, and then when his
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: grandpa came home, he walked in on me washing the dishes.
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: You're not going to change my mind, because I mean,
• 42:44
  Speaker 7: is it weird that she lives here and she knows nothing?
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: We can I talk to you for sech Elizabeth, so
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: say something else.
• 42:52
  Speaker 9: We're not trying to you know, upset you anymore than
• 42:55
  Speaker 9: you are you are or anything like that.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: But you have to think about how when this case
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: goes to court.
• 43:00
  Speaker 9: One when people get arrested for things like this, they
• 43:02
  Speaker 9: don't care I whose family, friends, or whoever else they
• 43:05
  Speaker 9: can or will throw under the bus to try to
• 43:07
  Speaker 9: get themselves a better deal. When this goes to court
• 43:10
  Speaker 9: and a jury of six sturtum, sorry, twelve random people.
• 43:13
  Speaker 9: Don't worry about what I think about it. Don't worry
• 43:15
  Speaker 9: about what on it thinks about it. Think about what
• 43:16
  Speaker 9: those twelve people.
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: Are thinking about it. You've got to think about what's
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: best for him or her.
• 43:22
  Speaker 14: Okay, I would have hypognized about that if you hear
• 43:27
  Speaker 14: something or something comes up.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: With Elizabeth repeating the same story as before and no
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: progress made, the officers decide to leave, but Bruce Iaga
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: gives the family a promise. The next time she comes back,
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: it won't be for questions, It'll be with a warrant.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: A month later, on June fifteenth, investigators finally get the
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: break they've been waiting for. Cell tower data definitively places
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Angelo's phone at the scene of the murder at eleven
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: twenty am, the same time Jay was killed, directly contradicting
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: his earlier alibi that he was home with his mother.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: With this new evidence, a warrant is secured for Angelo's arrest,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: and Bruce Iyaga returns to the Baldonado residence just as
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: she promised. That afternoon, sixteen year old Angelo Baldonado is
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: arrested and charged with murder. Now, with the prime suspect
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: finally in custody, police have the chance to interview him
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: without his mother intervening. Bruce Iaga hopes this will be
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: the moment they get to close the case for good,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: but to her surprise, Angelo isn't about to make that
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: easy because this time he has an escape plan of
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: his own.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: Angelo, I'm still a chair. Sorry, is your mom going
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: to be here? Was she driving? Was she driving down here?
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: Oh?
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: At the house? I was at the office. Sorry, I
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: was no longer at the house. Oh, she should be coming.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: So she should be coming? Okay?
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: And if not, should she should?
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: She should? Mkay? So you do remember me? And I
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: actually do know you remember me cause you were like,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: can I talk to Anna? So?
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: But again, I am Anna Bruciaga Deputy.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: This is my partner.
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: So Angelo, because you are a minor, I am gonna
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: read you your rights and words here.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: That's made like now they had questions if I'm I
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: gonna talk to my mom would go.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: So you want your mom here while I read you
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: your rights as well? Yeah, I want her for the
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: whole thing, for the whole thing. Okay.
• 45:46
  Speaker 7: At this time, you are gonna get booked or your warrant.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, it's a homicide warrant.
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: Oh well I do I do? Mkay again, you know
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: because you said that you wanted to speak to me
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: if your mom I can't ask the questions. At this point,
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: I am booking you for the homicide warrant, and.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: That's all I can do.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: It's certainly not the response Detective Bruce Iago was hoping for,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: but it's hardly surprising. After months of his mother keeping
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: him away from investigators, Angelo refuses to speak without his
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: mother or a lawyer present. With no cooperation and no confession,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: there is nothing more detectives can do. Angelo is booked
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: into the county's juvenile detention center, held without bond while
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: prosecutors prepare to take the case to trial. For now,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: he's the only family member officially tied to the crime,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: and investigators believe they've finally got Jay's killer behind bars.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: But what no one has caught on to yet is
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: that Angelo isn't the one who pulled the trigger. He's
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: just a scapegoat taking the fall for a killer who's
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: still free and quietly getting away with murder. A full
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: year passes since Jay was tragically killed, his pregnant girlfriend,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Elizabeth Baldonado, gives birth to his son in November twenty
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: twenty two. Her social media posts show a young woman
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: trying to rebuild her life, sharing photos of her baby,
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: spending time with friends, and appearing to move on in
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: a new relationship. On the surface, it seems like life
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: is slowly returning to normal. Meanwhile, her brother Angelo remains
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: in juvenile attention awaiting trial. The case seems closed, and
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Jay's family begins to find closure, believing justice has finally
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: been served. That is until, out of nowhere, police receive
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: a phone call that changes everything. In March of twenty
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: twenty three, a woman contacts detectives claiming she's been talking
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: to Elizabeth's older brother Gilbert on Facebook, and according to her,
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: he's just confessed to knowing exactly who killed Jay that day.
• 47:56
  Speaker 6: Then everything that Facebook, and I was able to see
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: that timby was pretty hateful towards his mom, and so
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: I figured maybe I could get him to say something
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: about it.
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: So message why your brother locked up?
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: Because my mom and him went to go find my
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: sister's baby daddy because he'd beat hurt. And when they
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: got there, my sister's baby daddy tried to pull out
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: a gun, but he got hit before he could even
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: get his gun.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: But they put the murder on my brother. I said,
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: that's real up. Why they put it on your brother?
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: He said, Supposedly witnesses were there and said it was him,
• 48:31
  Speaker 6: And they say they also got.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: Video and that it looks like him in the video,
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: but you can't see it.
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: All you see is a big ass group and then
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: everybody scatters. I said, once, your mom didn't tell nobody.
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: It wasn't him. He said, help me, he said. The
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: crazy part is my little brother. He's telling on my mom. Said,
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: so your mom did it and let your brother go down,
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: and he said yep. I said, have you tried to
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: tell your brother to tell? He said, yeah, but he
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: tells me no. But that's how we was raised. No
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: matter what the situation is, don't tell, and if we do,
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: we got a consequence.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: This, needless to say, Gilbert's confession changes everything. Detectives already
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: suspected Chavez's involvement in arranging the boxing fight, but no
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: one imagined she was the one who pulled the trigger.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Investigators begin to theorize that Chavez may have orchestrated the
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: entire thing, luring Jay to the alley under the guise
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: of a fight with her son, only to end it
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: herself with a single shot to the head. But despite
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: what sounds like a breakthrough, Detective Bruce Iaga knows she
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: can't move too fast. Arresting Chavez now, based only on
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: Gilbert's secondhand confession, could jeopardize the entire case. Without solid evidence,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Chavez will be innocent in the eyes of the law.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Over the next few months, investigators work quietly monitoring jail
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: calls between Chavez and her son Angelo. Most of the
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: conversations are vague, small talk, cautious wording, but in one
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: of the calls, Chavez makes an interesting statement. When Angelo
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: asks why his brother Gilbert looked said, Chavez replies, he's
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: heartbroken you're in there. I told him it's because I've
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: looked up because I'm stupid. Period. Hearing what sounds like
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: an admission of guilt, Detective Bruce Iaga seizes the opportunity
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: and visits Angelo at the detention center, hoping this time
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: she can finally get the truth. When she meets with him,
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: she doesn't have to do much convincing because Angelo is
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: already prepared to make a deal and save himself.
• 50:31
  Speaker 8: If you.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: Here, I always the first to use that one, so
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: you way to work around it.
• 50:39
  Speaker 7: So if you're wanting to now give a statement, we
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: can definitely schedule an appointment.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Where it's me, you and the attorney, and then I'm
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: boor then while you talk to do them.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: After Angelo agrees to cooperate, detectives quickly arrange a formal
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: interview with him and his attorney. President Angelo ends up
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: corroborating his brother Gilbert's confession, confirming that it was his
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: mother who pulled the trigger and drove away from the scene.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: With both sons telling the same story, there's only one
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: crucial piece missing to solve the case, a confession from
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Chavez herself. Without her own words, the defense could argue
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: that the boys are lying or that their statements were coerced.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: A few days later, an arrest warrant is issued and
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Chavez is taken into custody. Detective Bruciaga brings her into
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: an interrogation room, determined to secure an admission, not through
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: confrontation this time, but through empathy. If the plan works,
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: they'll finally close the case for good. But if Chavez
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: sees through it, the interview will be over before it
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: even begins.
• 51:58
  Speaker 15: I know, I know that you obviously recognize me because
• 52:03
  Speaker 15: we've met in the past more than once, Okay, and
• 52:10
  Speaker 15: regardless of what happened, then, I'm not gonna be rude
• 52:14
  Speaker 15: to you. I'm not going to be disrespectful to you,
• 52:17
  Speaker 15: even though in the past you weren't.
• 52:20
  Speaker 7: The nicest, right, But.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: You're here and I'm not gonna be rude, and I expect.
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: The same kid there.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Obviously.
• 52:33
  Speaker 15: I know you were visiting Angelo. I know you were
• 52:36
  Speaker 15: visiting Angelo. How is he doing? He's okay, yeah, okay,
• 52:42
  Speaker 15: how are you doing? He's I mean just in general,
• 52:52
  Speaker 15: not just because you already know why you're here.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: You've been in handcuffs with in the lack of the
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: cop car. Yes, so I'm going to read you your rights, okay,
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: don okay. Partough.
• 53:09
  Speaker 12: With that being.
• 53:10
  Speaker 15: Said, what's going to happen now is I'm going to
• 53:13
  Speaker 15: stop this interview.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: You're going to jail on two warrants.
• 53:16
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: You do have an open count murder warrant, and.
• 53:20
  Speaker 15: You do have and I have to look at that
• 53:23
  Speaker 15: one to regionally effects. But it is warrant, okay, and
• 53:29
  Speaker 15: that's not mine. It's not for me to discuss. But
• 53:31
  Speaker 15: that's what one of the warrant is for.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, things don't go according to plan. The moment Chavez
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: realizes where the conversation is heading, she immediately shuts down
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: the interview and asks for a lawyer from here on,
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: and it's up to the court to decide whether the
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: evidence against her is enough to prove what everybody already suspects.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: At the trial, prosecutors present the full scope of the case,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: phone records, surveillance foot of Chavez's car, the brother's confessions,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: and the jail call recordings. They argue that Chavez disapproved
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: of the relationship between her daughter and Jay and was
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: motivated by anger over how he treated her. They also
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: believed she calculated that her teenage son would face lighter
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: consequences if he took the blame. As for her other children,
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Elizabeth and Gilbert, investigators determined that neither had any direct
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: role in the shooting. Elizabeth in particular, is found to
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: have had no knowledge of her mother's deadly intentions. She
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: withheld some information to protect her family, but was ultimately
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: determined to be a victim caught in the middle. Eventually,
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Angelo Balbinatto pleads guilty to conspiracy to commit first degree
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: murder and assaults with intent to commit a felony, and
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: his sentence to remain in juvenile detention until age twenty one.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: His mother, Chavez, pleads guilty to second degree murder and
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: in May twenty twenty five, receives the maximum penalty of
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: eighteen years in state prison. Chavez is also facing a
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: separate charge, really headed to child exploitation material found on
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: her tablet during the investigation