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#203 - For Azeroth!: “That’s Legally Impossible” · For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast

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  Victory for the Forsaken for Lord, are on for the Kirin, Tor
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  and REO for calendar organ. Alias us Endora.
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  Welcome to for Azeroth. My name is Jared.
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  And of course, of course, I am joined as always by my wonderful
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  co-host. Manny Manny, how has the world
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  of? Craft been treating you.
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  I am glad that as we spoke last week saying hey, the World of
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  Warcraft. It's not this chain pulling me
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  in saying, I need more time. I need more time because I have
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  just been slammed this week. I if I if nine point one point
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  five was today, I would be falling behind a left, right?
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  And Center as it stands. I can fit.
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  Wow, in. I'm not going to be like blazing
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  ahead with all of them. Hunting and stuff.
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  I can't, I can't pull that time in but I can play.
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  WoW. Like I said, like we said, last
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  week at my own pace and I don't feel like I'm holding back the
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  team. And as we discussed later, I
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  think that like, I sort of go off on my own little tangents
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  and stuff. So definitely do feel like I'm
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  holding back the team, but the fact that I can play with
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  limited time and actually enjoy is incredible.
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  And I'm glad for that. It's a bad feeling.
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  Yeah. That said, there's still a lot
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  in. Wow, that I haven't had a chance
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  to do on life. There's that jailers Gauntlet,
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  which looks pretty fun. And it's just there, it is, just
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  there for the enjoyment of it. I mean, there's new layers and
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  or gas that I kind of want to look.
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  I'm apprehensive that because they're like, oh, we've like
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  powered up the torment, some stuff.
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  And those things were incredibly RNG annoying or breaking and
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  there's we'll see. I want to try it, give it a fair
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  Shake, only done a little bit of Mythic.
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  Plus this week. I've only done like, two
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  dungeons and I was I was Pushing to heal because that's what I'm
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  doing in raids. I'm like, okay, let me try
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  healing some some if the cluster I just I went to 9 because
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  that's the highest you can go without the new a fix and seeing
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  like how that worked. And yeah, right was, it was, all
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  right. I guess I can heal because I
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  know the rough way people do these things without the FX, and
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  so now, I kind of want to step in and try with the affixes, but
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  then at the same time, really missing enhanced your hood.
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  Calling Batman meets. Like trust me.
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  I'm missing you wanted pants because playing playing Demon
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  Hunter the. The go to build right now is the
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  demon blades build which just chefs kiss to whoever
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  implemented when Fury totem into the game because they who they
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  go together like like cinnamon and sugar or like, I had put
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  anything you need two things that go naturally.
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  Together that you get, you got your A trigger a cinnamon sugar.
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  You never like, so like that, feel like that's a pretty common
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  thing. I mean, I don't think it's weird
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  just like, it's not. But go to thing that I was
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  thinking of of two things that go together, her like honey and
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  peanut butter like those duhs. There's the classic peanut
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  butter, That's a classic. Maybe I just live a sheltered
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  life away from all of these like super sweet things and I'm very
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  surprised to hear that. You've kept your Leaf form when
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  you're like stuffing cinnamon and sugar and honey and whatever
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  into your mouth like they go together.
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  Your metabolism has served you. Well, it hasn't said it has not.
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  Ha ha ha. That's sad.
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  Um, yeah, no missing enhancement, missing
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  enhancement. And so I did a little plugging
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  and I was like, oh, you know, I'm gonna I'm a pug on in hands
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  from this stuff and feeling a bit Rusty.
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  Those, we got through some of the raid and we got through a
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  lot of bosses and I was Doing okay, in terms of like,
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  relative, like I was in like the top five of the like the people
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  on that run, but at the same time, like when I'm looking at
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  my purses they are like, there's some not not so not so good
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  parses. So I feel I feel the rust and
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  stuff and I gotta I gotta work on that.
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  I think the biggest thing that threw me is that I should have
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  switched to the proper Covenant. I should have made sure that I
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  was doing things based on the current stuff because things
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  have changed in 9.2, right? Absolutely switch covenants.
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  Yes, actually. So at the end of 9.1 the best in
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  slot, Covenant for for Havoc was actually night face.
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  For single Target just across the board.
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  Just single Target, the, the hunt that the ability that you
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  get is just way too good on DPS to pass up in single Target
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  situations, completely sucks everywhere other than single
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  Target, but if you need to like have just that that extra burst
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  in a situation or you just want High sustained single Target
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  damage. The highwomen Hunt is, is like a
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  pretty pretty solid choice and still is however in this
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  particular raid that we're going into into the Sepulchre, there
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  are many more instances where getting AOE cleave damage is
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  pretty king and the way that that things are kind of working
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  out with with legendaries. And, and once we get the double
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  legendaries unlocked, it just makes more sense to be Vince.
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  Because we have a lot more application that we can use the
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  Covenant ability sinful brand. And so, everyone's just kind of
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  shifted to being Vin theater. For Havoc Demon Hunter, just
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  just to get the practice in and get used to using the ability
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  again, because we know that that's where we're heading.
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  So, everyone's just kind of getting ahead of it and doing it
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  now. So I've been doing that.
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  I personally like Vin theater over night fee for Demon Hunter
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  just broad broad case. I think it's a much better
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  ability. And so I have been absolutely
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  enjoying my time playing playing havoc.
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  Okay. Yeah, for me, it's it's a
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  strange Duality because this tier.
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  I'm healing. So, for healing, there's a
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  couple of choices that work I can be, Bastion is generally
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  good, all good, all around, but there is a case to go vent
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  there, especially once you get the like double legendary going.
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  And so like that all like me that you can use that nice burst
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  chain Harvest to like instantly. But the team is quite good.
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  And then on the terms of enhancement, well, you can stick
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  to the good old night Fay for some heavy single Target Beats,
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  or you can move into Bastion and bastions got a great nice little
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  case, versatility build. And then you could go then fear
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  and you basically anybody but neck rewards, right?
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  There's a nice little Crit hates build for for the vent thing on
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  that, which makes it good. Koe but lesson, single Target.
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  And so there's choices. There's choices.
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  And for the sake of where I felt that our team was, I felt that
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  vent there would be best for rest.
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  Oh, yeah, having that extra kind of raid cool down that you can
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  use is a pretty good and short cooldown to.
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  So Yeah, yeah. And I just have like more gear
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  that like lines up towards it in my in my Resto set, but then
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  it's just been all over the place.
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  I've just have having like all this chaos with gearing, all
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  these sort of like analysis paralysis where I'm like looking
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  at this and looking at that. But like when you're like cute
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  into the dungeon finder, you don't you don't say hey guys,
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  give me a minute while I go switch covenants.
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  Make sure my Soul Bond set up and blah blah and I was like,
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  okay. Invent there.
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  Let me just quickly do the swap over and jump in.
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  So it was what it was but I have been really enjoying this raid.
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  Even still even with the crappy parses, just the fights
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  themselves as not all about parses about getting those
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  purple pixels. Manny purple.
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  Pixels are the good parts has? There's no, it's all the parts
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  as you want, like, or or these get the nice little orange
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  parses and just be legendary. Oh, yeah.
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  Did I miss? Is this is true?
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  But regardless, you're right. Sometimes it's all about the
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  loot and to get to the loot. You got to do the encounters,
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  and the encounters have just been great in this raid.
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  We've tested a couple of them. Now.
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  We're seeing them live. Some of them have been altered
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  drastically from from where they were on the PTR when I tested
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  them. Some of them are much closer.
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  Jared. When we went through, we got
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  through the first two bosses. Yes, so I think we did, we did.
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  No, we did the guardian that the first boss you have to get
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  through the guardian. Yes, and we did and then go, let
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  go likes, which is I think, I think it was discovered after
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  the, we had made this decision to go down that route that we
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  went to the hard side of the raid.
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  Yeah. Yeah, um, because like I said, I
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  went in and I plugged and we did the other ones and Yeah, that
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  Fallen Oracle. Yeah, that's that's a little bit
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  more on the cake side than even scolex, but I think Yeah, we cuz
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  I have hugged ahead of time and I was able to be like, okay,
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  this is what we need to do and just focus our, our attempts on
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  that. We were able to get scolex down
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  way faster rather than having the difficulties that one of my
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  pugs had. Yeah, and that's also one of the
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  fights that you and I both tested on the PTR.
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  Yes, and I think scolex in particular, that was a fight for
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  our team that we didn't, we didn't have Given a single
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  weight. Like we went in and just cleared
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  it in one go. And then we got to sign marks
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  and did we? It was an experience.
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  I'll say that. Yeah, and we we progressed to
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  the point where like if we went back there another night.
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  I think we could get it down. It is clearly a place that we
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  like it. We could forget.
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  A saint. But it is one where like if you
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  make mistakes and they are your mistakes, you will you will not
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  only hurt yourself but hurt the raid, the tank needs to make
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  sure that they're doing their Duty.
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  There's very little room for error in execution on that
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  fight. And so I'm actually kind of glad
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  that we went up against that because it was very much a like.
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  No, you don't get the tunnel. Make sure you're using your
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  interrupts make. You're using you to your
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  utility. It was a good good and proper
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  progression fight. It was a it was what you should
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  come to expect out of out of rating experiences, especially
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  in a fresh trade that you've never gone into before or a
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  fresh difficulty because they add stuff with each each rung of
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  the the tear that you climb up there, adding new things that
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  are adding complexity and adding difficulty to the fights.
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  And it's something that that you want to see your red team, go up
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  against it, be able to temper themselves against going into
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  going further and further into a particular rate.
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  And I think we handled that fight valiantly.
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  We went in, we kind of had a loose play in and we continued
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  to dr. The plan that that we were using
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  to try and execute this fight as we went, and we were Ding and
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  bringing up bringing up things that we hadn't seen before, and
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  we would make a pool. We'd get a little bit further
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  and see something else and then come back or take a step back
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  and say, hey, so this is a better way to handle this.
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  And then the team executed it and it was, it was wonderful.
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  Yeah, I like that adaptation, that analysis that adjustments.
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  As we went through. That was great.
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  It just, it was a bit frustrating to only have gone
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  like the two down with the team. So I basically like got up and
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  I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna go right again, and so
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  I ended up rating with a guild from the other side of the world
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  based out of Australia and go through with them and we went
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  through. We got we got the scolex.
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  We got we got has I'm Ox. We got we got the Fallen Oracle
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  and the the Prototype Pantheon, but hun a laundress.
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  We didn't even figure out how to get to him and that's not
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  something I can help with because when you're testing on
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  the VTR, it's all yes. All a matter of like, oh
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  teleported into the dungeon and fight it a bunch of times when
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  you die, get teleported right back to the boss again.
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  So actually reaching him was what's dumped me more than most
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  of the bosses. But I did get give me a good
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  chance to see all of the fights again in life.
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  This was on the normal. I've done or rather.
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  I've attempted one on on heroic with a Pug group.
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  And so seeing how pugs can do this and seeing how organized
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  groups can you can do this. Really makes me appreciate
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  Discord because oh my word. I cannot imagine that, you know,
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  way back in the day before this court before even TeamSpeak.
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  Or what else did we use back in the day?
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  Mumble Mumble? Oh man.
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  That's that's the only thing that I know, T-Mobile TeamSpeak,
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  vent, and Mumble that those were it, then Trillo.
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  And don't ask me to order those into like which one went first,
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  but I think it was TeamSpeak first.
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  Then Ventrilo came along and then Mumble came along and feel
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  like mumbling Ventrilo sort of overlapped each other.
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  Aw. Yeah, there was a lot of overlap
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  but TeamSpeak and they were even still even still like, in
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  mid-2016. I remember like plugging into a
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  team for raid one night and they posted a TeamSpeak.
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  Server link and I was like, wow, I haven't seen these in a
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  decade. Yeah, and these rays are clearly
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  designed with the ability to communicate in real-time quickly
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  over voice. But yeah, there's no way you can
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  do these raids in any other manner.
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  Yeah, and like really, really and truthfully.
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  Like, I don't think that the, the necessity of things like
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  TeamSpeak and Ventrilo came along until maybe the Wrath of
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  the Lich King days, and that's really win the Difficulty, like
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  the the coordination of what you were doing ready to raid, maybe
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  maybe as early as like black Temple, you had to have like,
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  pretty intense. Communication between your raid
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  team going into into some of those fights and that's really
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  when those things kind of started to become much more
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  widespread. But before that in, you know,
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  early burning Crusade and in classic vanilla, it wasn't
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  really necessary. Like we use them now in classic,
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  just because we're using them in the modern era and it's a nice
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  tool to have. But It wasn't really that
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  widespread also because rating wasn't really widespread back
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  then either. So the people that were rating,
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  like it was even less likely that you were going to run into
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  someone using one of those things.
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  So, it's interesting because the like the need for platforms Like
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  That Grew over time, and the need for complexity be added
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  into the fights because people were communicating more and
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  more. Patiently through these.
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  These things kind of grew hand-in-hand and it's been like
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  a, like an arms race of difficulty increasing in the
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  fights because even even looking back, like I don't five years.
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  The the raids have become much more intense since even back in
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  like Legion and Warlords of Draenor.
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  I wonder could I think it's some mechanics are definitely Like
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  that, but some mechanics are more about how tightly they tune
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  it because of the this quote-unquote arms.
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  Race is, if you look at like, even the most modern raids, the
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  LF our version is built in a way that communication isn't
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  necessary. And it's not that the mechanics
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  don't exist, some do not but it's more of that.
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  The mechanics aren't, as punishing, if, if they're messed
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  up, right? There's an easier way of going
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  about. Doubt it.
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  But then, you know, the the other side of that, even in
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  normal, we have a team of people that were rating in a heroic
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  level last tier step in and even some people on this team that
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  that raided a Mythic level. We're stepping into this raid
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  and getting slapped around by a normal boss because of how
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  tightly it's tuned. So like I that makes me question
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  like the whole thing of like it hasn't been Like, is it that
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  study of a curve man? There is definitely a question
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  about the step up between like, always the LFR and normal.
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  And when we jump to heroic how much of a step up that's going
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  to be, but I remember testing these bosses on a Mythic level
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  with a Pug of people that are just pulled together to test
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  this boss. And every time they test on PT
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  are those bosses are over tuned. You are not supposed to kill
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  them. They have way.
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  Way more Health than they should.
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  And they're likely to, to, like, go into berserk or some sort of
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  life, but we killed some bosses. Not just one.
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  Obviously, the first the guardian went down, but we
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  killed some bosses and we're not like the, like setup team that
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  is walking in all ready to go in.
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  And test this for the guild. Again, just a pug.
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  So I think that there's There's something to be said that, like,
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  the Mythic difficulties of these fights.
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  Do not seem so back-breaking that they're, like, unassailable
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  to your eye, or to our team. It's a very strange question of
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  re difficulty. Do you think that?
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  Like obviously there's been since Cason a thorough like,
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  whoa, they stepped up to difficulty and this expansion
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  Castle. No fear, was the, the big shock.
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  I don't feel like felt that way, as much with it, with sanctum of
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  domination. Did you?
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  I see Sanctum, sanctum was just a weird raid overall just
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  because it was like Aesthetically weird.
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  Like it. Am I allowed to say that?
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  It was an aesthetically. Weird raid.
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  Yeah, but like overall, regardless of what it looked
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  like like, what did that did have to do with the difficulty
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  though? That that's my question.
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  When you're like, aesthetically, we're is like aha, but what does
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  that have to do with the difficulty?
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  I really like that. That's great.
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  I bring that up to say, like, my my experience of the difficulty
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  of sanctum. Definitely influenced by my
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  esthetical experience of the raid in so far that the bosses
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  that looked like they should have been more difficult
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  weren't, and the ones that look like they should have been
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  easier. At least, like, looking at them
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  and seeing the mechanics listed out on paper, like, having that
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  comparison was just flip-flopped of what I was expecting and I
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  feel like that colored my my expectations of what are not
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  even my expectations, but what my overall experience of the
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  raid was just because it was so weird.
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  The whole thing. Like it wasn't just like the
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  aesthetic of the place that was weird.
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  It was, I went in with expectations and none of those
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  expectations were met. Okay, so I know this is a nice
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  Them thing. But which boss did you feel was
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  going to be a knock over that ended up like punching in your
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  face? The first time you came across
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  it. Oh, definitely.
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  Definitely the nine like that was a fight that I went into it
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  being like, oh, this is just, this is just a council fight.
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  That's like the the creek fear Council fight in.
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  Oh gosh, what was the? It wasn't hard to fear.
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  It was one of the, The Mists of Pandaria raids.
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  Okay, it was like one of those like there's just a whole bunch
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  of different things that these enemies do and they come in and
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  they do them one at a time and eventually all the mechanics
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  kind of Stack Up and you kind of have to like, manage all these
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  things, but they were like a mocha strong faults with the a
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  Yeah, yeah, another. That's sorry.
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  That's another example of a fight like that, that, you know,
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  there's like or like a freaking cataclysm.
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  The Omni Trend defense system. Another another fight.
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  Like, okay, that's what I was expecting and the fight was
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  nothing like that. It was, it was absolutely
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  nothing like that and the mechanics ended up being much
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  more punishing than what I was expecting because they required
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  so much more coordination. Even in heroic, even in normal,
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  you like going in the first time to that fight.
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  You had to know what you were doing.
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  Or you were going to get slapped very hard with the difficulty
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  check. And I think that's good.
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  I think that's good to have fights like that.
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  That kind of like, defy the expectations based on what you
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  you have experienced in the past because like, anyone going into
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  the raid fresh that like there. This is their first raid of
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  World of Warcraft going into A fight, like the nine like you
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  are going into just a difficult fight, but for the rest of us
• 26:41
  that have been here for a very long time.
• 26:44
  We're going into the fight. Oh, this is like, I'm gonna try
• 26:46
  and oh, this is like a, this is, you know, one of these Council
• 26:50
  fights and it's not like that at all.
• 26:53
  So that was like the first one. That's the second one that gave
• 26:57
  me in particular, a lot of trouble probably.
• 27:04
  Probably was kel'thuzad just because it's that's one of those
• 27:09
  fights that it's another like on paper is just you're just
• 27:15
  killing them and then like getting him to go into his
• 27:18
  Factory and then killing them in the phylactery and like
• 27:22
  mechanically how that fight Works seems simple on paper, but
• 27:26
  actually doing and in practice for the first time was much more
• 27:29
  difficult than I expected it to be.
• 27:33
  Okay, so then turning this to the Sepulchre of the first ones.
• 27:39
  What fights are you most looking forward to that?
• 27:43
  You haven't done already? I am be the last because we
• 27:46
  don't know anything about them. No, I'm oh gosh.
• 27:51
  I can't. I should, I should probably know
• 27:54
  this, but it's the, the the construct Council fight.
• 28:01
  Oh, the Prototype Pantheon. Yes.
• 28:04
  Yes. That's a fight that I'm very
• 28:06
  much looking forward to. Okay.
• 28:09
  Well, I would say that that fight has more in common with
• 28:14
  the nine than it being just a council fight per se for those.
• 28:22
  Don't know, this fight. It is this.
• 28:28
  For boss fight, two of them are active at a time.
• 28:31
  You start, you start with two, they'll have their abilities.
• 28:37
  Then when you get them down to 50%, you will get the next two
• 28:42
  and they will have different abilities.
• 28:44
  Then when you get those two down to 50%, all four of them come in
• 28:48
  and then all of the abilities are going on at once.
• 28:51
  And it's chaos on normal. They seem to have shared health.
• 28:58
  On heroic and above they do not share the health.
• 29:05
  And what happens is that when one of them dies, they start
• 29:11
  rebuilding and if they rebuild they come back up at 100% health
• 29:15
  and now you've got to like burn them down.
• 29:17
  Think of, for people who have done it, Mists of Pandaria.
• 29:21
  They had Siege of Orgrimmar. The second boss was another
• 29:27
  fight. Right where there were these
• 29:29
  three guys, and if you killed one, it would eventually get
• 29:33
  back up and then you would have to burn it down again.
• 29:37
  So there's been a couple of fights that are similar to that.
• 29:40
  The really scary thing about this yard is how those fights
• 29:44
  line line up in mechanical ways. You can be like, oh, I need to
• 29:54
  dispel this dot or this debuff, but you need to dispel the
• 29:58
  debuff while the persons in the bubble.
• 30:01
  Otherwise it Des rechts, the entire raid.
• 30:04
  Yeah. That's the kind of lineup That
• 30:08
  If you have an errant dispel that can ruin Everybody's Day.
• 30:13
  There are ads that will like be a white mechanic is like you
• 30:16
  have to switch and you need to take care of these ads and
• 30:19
  that's something that if people are too busy, tunneling, that
• 30:23
  can ruin the day. So, there's a couple of things
• 30:25
  gets worse in heroic. When the, I forget what his
• 30:32
  thing is. Because they're not actually
• 30:33
  called. Like I'm the Prototype, sired,
• 30:35
  an atheist. They have like, prototype of
• 30:37
  Valor prototype. Duty and so forth, right?
• 30:40
  But the Prototype sired and athis is a jerk.
• 30:44
  Even in Prototype form and won't wait, his turn.
• 30:46
  So he's active the entire way through, but like, he'll stand
• 30:49
  on this side and screw screw with you.
• 30:51
  Yeah, so, it's like fun chaotic fight.
• 30:54
  The reason that I'm the reason I'm looking forward to that
• 30:58
  fight is because it was one of the few fights that I went in on
• 31:03
  LFR. When the LF our testing was
• 31:06
  active, and It just fell over like nothing happened in the
• 31:11
  fight, even though like they were all these like cool like
• 31:14
  graphics and cool animations happening around me.
• 31:18
  Nothing of consequence was actually happening to anyone
• 31:21
  who's rain. So I'm just like, this is like,
• 31:24
  conceptually a really cool fight.
• 31:25
  But I like I want to I want to like actually see the fight, so
• 31:28
  that that's that's why I'm looking forward to it.
• 31:31
  Probably the most out of all the fights.
• 31:34
  Of course also going up going toe-to-toe against the Jailer
• 31:38
  like Duh, yeah, of course, of course.
• 31:41
  I banned those because we don't know what the what's going on in
• 31:44
  those exact. All right.
• 31:45
  So yeah, I did, I did do the Prototype prototype Pantheon.
• 31:52
  I was actually surprised that they were sharing health and
• 31:56
  normal. At least it seemed to be, I
• 32:00
  can't believe that our Prague was so good as to like, really
• 32:03
  get them down to 50 at the exact same time.
• 32:05
  Really get them down to like 15 exact same time.
• 32:07
  And then In Phase 4. They actually did drop at
• 32:11
  different times. Like we had a near wipe, where
• 32:15
  was myself and a couple of people and it was just like kind
• 32:19
  of around keep DPS, kind of around.
• 32:22
  I died had to honk go back and we killed it.
• 32:28
  So they did, I guess they don't share Health, but it was just
• 32:30
  weird that they were like, we, the team of literal pugs managed
• 32:35
  to keep them. So even regardless it does look
• 32:40
  like a an amazing fight. I think that I really have been
• 32:45
  hearing so many good things about the reclaimer, A laundress
• 32:50
  and chasing after him and that sort of thing.
• 32:53
  And I've watched like several videos, but the videos are like,
• 32:57
  okay, we I have to go on this based on the dungeon Journal
• 33:00
  because it's changed so much. So this is the animation you're
• 33:04
  going to see are going to match up and like oh I so now and
• 33:08
  that's one of the fights. I didn't test on the PTR.
• 33:12
  So yeah really excited for that fight in the fact that I
• 33:15
  couldn't get to them because the trash force field was
• 33:18
  Unstoppable or something. Really I want to go back in and
• 33:22
  dive into that but I think yeah, that's that's the one fight on
• 33:26
  heroic when I was doing heroic testing that I went in and we're
• 33:29
  just like, oh, this looks like a red fight and then it was
• 33:32
  completely bugged. And the red team that I was
• 33:34
  joined to do raid, testing that day just was just like it's
• 33:39
  broken. We're not doing it and it
• 33:40
  disbanded in like five minutes later.
• 33:43
  They pushed a hotfix of the PTR was just like, oh, hold on.
• 33:46
  Just is like testable. Now, go do it.
• 33:49
  I was just like, well, I'm already in the kitchen, making a
• 33:51
  sandwich like it's fine. It's fine in the kitchen, making
• 33:55
  a sandwich. I ain't coming back.
• 33:57
  Okay. All right.
• 33:59
  Well, having tested this having seen like the difficulty there
• 34:06
  is, I guess we have a couple of tips for our listeners to make
• 34:09
  sure that they are as prepared as possible to step in if you
• 34:13
  haven't already stepped in. All right, if you haven't
• 34:15
  already stepped in already, that's redundant anyways.
• 34:22
  For those of you who are trying to get as much power as
• 34:24
  possible. This week is The Mists of
• 34:27
  Pandaria time walking, you do five of those dungeons complete
• 34:31
  those. And their word will be a piece
• 34:34
  of normal 252 raid gear, which can be tear pieces.
• 34:41
  If you are pushing on your rep or a fallen behind on your rep
• 34:45
  and and want some extra rep. This week is also the Darkmoon
• 34:49
  Faire. So, do head over to that,
• 34:52
  that'll give you an extra 10% of the rep which means all the
• 34:57
  world quest will give you a little bit more and the rares
• 35:00
  that give you give you 10 rep will give you 11.
• 35:05
  Don't worry about the rarest guys.
• 35:06
  Just deal with the world question.
• 35:08
  Move on. If you don't need, sorry, if you
• 35:14
  don't want to impose on your a team and need to be summoned in,
• 35:22
  make sure that you do complete the story chapters chapter 4, is
• 35:27
  the one that unlocks the translocator, which will take
• 35:31
  you over to the island that the raid entrance is on, in the east
• 35:34
  of xerath mortis. So make sure you get that done.
• 35:37
  Otherwise, you'll need to be summoned with the summoning
• 35:40
  stone or a warlock will need a couple of friends to some of you
• 35:45
  over. There's also some gear that can
• 35:49
  come from the world boss. That is active this week now.
• 35:54
  And troas is a large mechanical boss up in the north island and
• 36:00
  there is a ancient translocator that is now active to get over
• 36:04
  there. Jump into a raid group that you
• 36:07
  can use through. Just the group finder, burn it
• 36:10
  down, get yourself some nice 259, non tear raid, raid drops.
• 36:17
  I wouldn't say the rate dropped, but there's a note on that is
• 36:20
  that you don't have to be. You don't have to complete
• 36:23
  chapter 4. In order to unlock that you can
• 36:25
  just go in without doing any Quest, you can just go in and
• 36:28
  knock the world quest there, knock that that will buy us out.
• 36:31
  Yeah, for that translocator. That's that just gets active
• 36:35
  this week. And beyond that.
• 36:42
  There is still a lot of the ketchup gear that's available.
• 36:46
  If you have the gold, you can go over to the auction house and
• 36:50
  the different Crafters are. Now, offering some 246.
• 36:55
  I believe is the item level gear so you can buy that on the
• 36:59
  auction house, but do remember that it is.
• 37:02
  Oh sorry. I apologize.
• 37:03
  It's 262. I think.
• 37:06
  Yeah. The the so the one piece that
• 37:09
  you're allowed to have is 26. To.
• 37:12
  So you can get a 262 piece and then I think the regular like I
• 37:16
  think it's like tier 4 or Crafters captures Mark Mark for
• 37:22
  is like two forty. Two forty.
• 37:26
  Six ish somewhere around there. Oh, I'm sorry.
• 37:29
  Heroic item level gear. So if you unless you have done a
• 37:33
  lot of high-level Mythic Plus or Mythic rating the you can get
• 37:38
  yourself a baseline level in the to 40s and you can Get one piece
• 37:42
  that is significantly higher, that will be good until you
• 37:47
  start pushing through on heroic rating, as well.
• 37:51
  So, these are a couple of things.
• 37:54
  The little bit of gear means that, you will have a little bit
• 37:56
  of extra stamina survive, some things that you may not have do
• 38:00
  some more damage, do some more healing and get those bosses
• 38:05
  down. So, I do suggest that, unless
• 38:08
  you were putting in the work previously, use this to give
• 38:11
  yourself a good. Item level.
• 38:14
  With that said, the raid itself has also seen a lot of tuning
• 38:19
  and hotfixes outside of the day. One hot fixes.
• 38:23
  We've seen some adjustments to several bosses in in the raid.
• 38:28
  Now, as we said before, only the first eight bosses are available
• 38:33
  this week on normal. And heroic next week.
• 38:36
  We will have Mythic come out and with the release of Mythic and
• 38:40
  LFR Wing one, you will see normal and Also have access to
• 38:46
  the last three bosses. Bring up the total count to 11.
• 38:49
  But this week we only have the eight.
• 38:53
  Anduin has seen a lot of fixes with.
• 38:59
  With him, receiving a several adjustments to several of his
• 39:03
  abilities. All the way through, we have
• 39:06
  notes on all of these. If you are interested in seeing
• 39:09
  the nitty-gritty of that beyond that, the boss that I'm really
• 39:14
  interested in Stoke to see a laundress.
• 39:16
  The reclaimer has seen some changes as well, both a Nerf and
• 39:24
  a bit of a buff. The Prototype Pantheon, has had
• 39:29
  a berserk mechanic added into the complete, reconstitution or
• 39:35
  reconstruction ability, which is the one that if you kill one and
• 39:39
  give the leave it the other ones alive long enough, it comes
• 39:42
  back. Well.
• 39:44
  Now if it comes back, it will do five hundred percent more damage
• 39:48
  and an attack 10% faster, so it's likely going to be a wipe
• 39:51
  if you let that get off whereas before some teams were.
• 39:55
  Ashley managing to overcome having to kill one hundred
• 39:59
  percent of the health. Again.
• 40:02
  Zai marks. The the boss that had stymied
• 40:07
  the attempts of Poindexter Furious.
• 40:10
  Our raid team has had a slight Nerf, the The spark, no
• 40:17
  variability, which forces you to spread out has had its range
• 40:21
  reduced very slightly until I'm telling you guys.
• 40:24
  It's gone down from 3 yards. Sorry, right from three to two
• 40:29
  point five range, which is very small, but should help some
• 40:34
  overlap, especially when you've got some shadow dancing robes
• 40:38
  that just pop up or that Demon Hunter who couldn't hold his
• 40:42
  blade dance for just a second to make sure the mechanic went off
• 40:46
  regardless should be easier if for that mechanic and I think
• 40:50
  that this is actually a pretty good Target Nerf because with
• 40:55
  the movement stuff, Jumping through the telepods or even the
• 41:02
  glyph of relocation that Drew everybody together having just
• 41:06
  that slightly less need to spread out.
• 41:10
  Could save some things that might otherwise be a wipe.
• 41:15
  Yeah. That was I will say like our
• 41:18
  biggest issue. Was with that mechanic in
• 41:22
  particular? It was with what our team coined
• 41:28
  as the big suck. That ability, the one that
• 41:33
  draws, the draws the entire raid to the tank that gets hit with
• 41:37
  it, or gets targeted by it. That, with being overlapped with
• 41:43
  Hyperlite, spark. Nova is what wiped us like more
• 41:46
  times than not, because it draws everyone in, and everyone has to
• 41:50
  immediately spread out. And we have a lot of a lot of
• 41:54
  classes that don't really have, you know, High mobility in our
• 41:58
  raid team, so, That was causing a little bit of an issue.
• 42:03
  Yeah, but with that said the raid is is very, very fun.
• 42:12
  Very interesting. Even with so many times.
• 42:16
  It's on zai marks. It was still a fun night and
• 42:19
  honestly to come back and like kills I Moxie be like, yeah,
• 42:24
  there you go before this there came in just feels gratifying
• 42:29
  geared just a feeling it'll just like, mmm II.
• 42:33
  It was flat / bit on this, on this guy once we killed him.
• 42:38
  There you go. There you go.
• 42:41
  Now, in terms of how difficult this rate is.
• 42:46
  Well, at the time of this recording, only two guilds have
• 42:52
  managed to defeat and Doin the 8th boss.
• 42:57
  On heroic difficulty, the first kill was claimed by liquid and
• 43:03
  that was followed by Echo claiming the world s heroic and
• 43:07
  to and kill. So this isn't a easy raid much
• 43:13
  like Castle. Nigeria, was not an easy raid
• 43:15
  and the Sepulchre Honestly, I don't think I paid as much
• 43:22
  attention to the heroic week, as I was paying attention through
• 43:27
  on the Mythic week, but I am very interested to see how this
• 43:31
  is going to go down next week, especially with those last three
• 43:34
  bosses being such a mystery. Yeah.
• 43:38
  Yeah. Just say, there wasn't even read
• 43:40
  testing on the last three boxes and with With the history of
• 43:46
  raid testing in World of Warcraft, that's kind of scary
• 43:53
  to me because we only have one boss.
• 43:55
  That we didn't know what the mechanics of that fight.
• 43:58
  We're going into into the raid and last tier which was so
• 44:03
  honest. We didn't know what.
• 44:05
  Savannah. So is it going to look like?
• 44:08
  Going into it. I believe we tested Sylvanas on
• 44:13
  heroic last one. We just didn't know, so it was
• 44:17
  very difficult version. Will it be exactly the same if
• 44:20
  there was some hidden phase that happened once, she triggered
• 44:24
  into 50. And then the big thing was like,
• 44:26
  oh no, there's an extra 5% health and people like what this
• 44:29
  is mathematically of Probably before a reset.
• 44:32
  And then of course they ended up doing it.
• 44:34
  And if there's if there's anything that we used to hold
• 44:40
  firstly as a World of Warcraft Community should learn.
• 44:43
  It's that anyone decrying thing is is a bad mathematical
• 44:46
  impossibility. Just don't just think before
• 44:51
  making that comment, because there are clearly mathematical
• 44:56
  ways to do anything that they put in the game.
• 45:00
  Look at Union. Looking at you.
• 45:03
  Listen one Ian's, not the be-all end-all of encounter design.
• 45:08
  I know to he's a lawyer, not a mathematician go elsewhere.
• 45:12
  So that was that was in reference to his his comment
• 45:18
  back in the day on c'thun. I know.
• 45:20
  But he would, he's a lawyer, not a mathematician so I don't care
• 45:24
  about his math. This is legally impossible.
• 45:27
  Just doesn't have the same ring though.
• 45:30
  This is true. This is true.
• 45:34
  I kind of want to make a this is legally possible shirt.
• 45:36
  Anyway, he's Jared all the last three bosses.
• 45:44
  Which one of those do you think is going to be the surprise hit?
• 45:50
  Do you think it's going to be an amazing Jailer encounter and my
• 45:55
  goodness the Jailer was the best end boss of an expansion or do
• 46:00
  you think it's going to be a the Dreadlords are going to be the
• 46:06
  sleeper, hit, do you think it's going to be rygel on?
• 46:10
  That's going to be like, oh, wait a second.
• 46:16
  Well, it depends, it depends, it depends.
• 46:19
  But if you think that's like, literally nothing to go on.
• 46:22
  So I just want your gut my gut feeling is to say that killing
• 46:27
  Mal ganis is gonna be the, the crowd pleaser.
• 46:35
  Killing about gayness is gonna be the crowd pleaser.
• 46:38
  Okay. Okay, that's just my gut
• 46:41
  feeling, it's my gut feeling, but caveat to that.
• 46:45
  I think that Reglan, if it is anything like the algalon fight
• 46:54
  or the oh gosh, the The last, the last boss of Legion.
• 47:06
  Why can I not? Think of his name.
• 47:10
  Argos, our game maker. Yes, if it's anything like like,
• 47:15
  I'll go on or Argos. Conceptually as a fight.
• 47:20
  I think it has the potential to steal that from Mal ganis.
• 47:24
  I do not think that the Jailer fight is going to be
• 47:29
  emotionally, as Anchored, as as the mugginess fight, certainly,
• 47:36
  but I think that there is much more room for there to be cool
• 47:39
  stuff in the, in the rygel on fight.
• 47:42
  Then there is the Jailer. So I'm going to say, first pick
• 47:46
  first pick is going to be the the dreadlord fight followed
• 47:50
  closely by a second place where I go line, and then I have no
• 47:54
  expectations for the Jailer because honestly, I don't even
• 47:57
  want to fight them at this point.
• 47:58
  He's not really a threat to me. Okay.
• 48:01
  All right. Well, I'm gonna Channel my inner
• 48:04
  ear in here and that is League. Adequately in possible that you
• 48:08
  would have to pick one from a gut choice and decide to hedge
• 48:12
  your bet. 22 out of 30. Congratulations Jerod.
• 48:20
  You know what, I'm gonna take the Dark Horse and I'm gonna go
• 48:23
  with the Jailer just to spite you.
• 48:27
  I have you no reason. Other than that that is That is
• 48:30
  a perfectly valid reason to choose that fake.
• 48:35
  Then you have to hedge your bet on a to on it.
• 48:38
  I got well, I gotta take the 66% chance.
• 48:40
  I'd least that way. I said, one of them leave.
• 48:44
  This is true. I will stick to my guns and say
• 48:47
  that I am expecting fully even stick to your guns, huge hedge,
• 48:51
  your bets which meant that you split your vet.
• 48:55
  It's a, we're going by ranked voting system here.
• 48:59
  We're in. Vermont.
• 49:00
  Now you ask, you know, nothing of reg boating.
• 49:05
  I'm joking. No, I'm not.
• 49:08
  Anyways, moving out of this little Quagmire Jerry.
• 49:16
  If you want to cover the next piece of news, I'm gonna head to
• 49:20
  my head. Yes, probably gonna be between
• 49:23
  the only piece of news we have left, or are Al Jarreau, you
• 49:27
  know what, you know, 66 percent chance that it's gonna be
• 49:33
  completely different. Actually.
• 49:37
  No, I'm just kidding. The only news that we have,
• 49:40
  let's talk about today is the, the PBC classic news, which we
• 49:44
  have a little bit about because zolomon is now testable on the
• 49:49
  PTR for TVC Classic. This, of course, is a kind of
• 49:57
  interim raid, similar to the Yoga rub, and how it was rolled
• 50:02
  out in the classic era. We I'm not going to be going
• 50:08
  into it, because I've got my hands full with with this
• 50:12
  current rate in 9.2., But I know plenty of people that are going
• 50:17
  into it and and I wish them all the fun in the world.
• 50:20
  But this is is very much kind of a raid that is meant to be kind
• 50:24
  of a stepping stone and to help kind of Rocket people into
• 50:29
  getting into the Rays that they actually want to be in or
• 50:32
  catching people up if they have alts that they want to bring in
• 50:35
  into into black Temple and of Really into son, will that
• 50:43
  you'll be able to use Zola bind to kind of get yourself a little
• 50:47
  bit extra chance, it getting some higher item level gear to
• 50:53
  make that, you know, that transition into those into those
• 50:56
  raids. A little bit easier.
• 50:58
  This is a tin man. Raid for those of you that don't
• 51:01
  know. For those of you that don't know
• 51:03
  anything about Zola mine. It's a 10-man raid and There is,
• 51:08
  there is a Mount. There is a mount that you can
• 51:10
  get through this raid. It is the abadi war bear.
• 51:14
  It is probably the most coveted one of the most coveted mounts
• 51:19
  in all of world of warcraft's history.
• 51:21
  Even when they brought back Zagreb and zolomon back in
• 51:25
  cataclysm. They revamped them as Dungeons
• 51:29
  and put in a version of the Amani Werebear for that dungeon
• 51:36
  that you. When and if you did Zola mind in
• 51:39
  a set amount of time, you got this Mount this on a war bear
• 51:44
  Mount. So it is, it is a very highly
• 51:47
  coveted Mount. And if you would like to try
• 51:51
  and, you know, try your hand at getting this amount.
• 51:54
  That is that is something that you can do in a couple of short
• 51:58
  weeks, because the PCR Cycles 440 BC, Classic have been very
• 52:03
  short. They had a like a, I want to say
• 52:06
  like a Three week turnaround on getting black Temple out.
• 52:09
  Once it hit the PTR and like, it's all known quantity.
• 52:14
  So PTR Cycles aren't about like, who do we have to rebalance?
• 52:17
  This is just, is it working as intended?
• 52:20
  Yeah, has there been something broken?
• 52:22
  Because the code shift, so like, yeah, I'm I'm glad that the PTR
• 52:28
  Cycles are faster for the burning Crusade, but the same
• 52:31
  time, it feels like they chew through content.
• 52:37
  Quite quickly. I, I want to say, I wish that I
• 52:47
  could play this in a way because, of course, I died after
• 52:53
  that beer, guys. This is, this is about the mount
• 52:55
  hunt naturally and it makes me go like pan.
• 53:00
  What do you think, Jared? What do you think that if I
• 53:03
  could get this bear in classic? Would it be acceptable for it to
• 53:12
  then be usable on my modern account?
• 53:16
  Or do you think that that's a bridge too far?
• 53:19
  Nobody have a debate that I don't even have nothing.
• 53:22
  It should be in there. I think that absolutely should
• 53:24
  be something that happens. I think that if you got the, if
• 53:27
  you got the, the headless horseman cares and in classic
• 53:29
  that it should that should transfer over.
• 53:31
  If you got the, if you got nightmare out of No, Headless.
• 53:39
  Horseman out of the Halloween event.
• 53:42
  If you get that, you get the the Halloween event Mount, The
• 53:45
  Headless Horseman. That should carry over.
• 53:47
  If you got any any of the, the time-sensitive mounts in
• 53:51
  classic, that, that should be something that carries over into
• 53:54
  modern. Well, I think that should have
• 53:56
  been something that was a selling point from day one, but
• 53:58
  they haven't done it because they were too afraid of.
• 54:03
  Making Earth purest mad, but like I'm almost get mad in the
• 54:07
  parasite. Wow.
• 54:09
  Wow, that's a, that's a statement and I'm about
• 54:12
  collecting my almost on the pure side where it's like, you know
• 54:15
  was a time-limited thing. There is a version of it that
• 54:19
  you can get today s. It's not the like exact same
• 54:22
  coloration as the original, but I think that Prestige should be
• 54:26
  there is like, hey, I was here and I got this.
• 54:29
  There are certain like toys that are like To where it's like,
• 54:33
  this was part of the event, the heirloom, with the Wrath of the
• 54:39
  Lich King, launched where? That haunted momento, right?
• 54:46
  That's something you can't get in a game anymore and it has
• 54:48
  such a price to it. And such.
• 54:50
  I like, I was there. And this character has that
• 54:52
  lineage or like, stuff like that.
• 54:55
  So I I'm kinda on the purest side.
• 54:59
  I think it's just my here greed, being like, I would love to be
• 55:01
  able to like Cat that to my mouth collection, the reason.
• 55:06
  So the reason that I'm on this side of the fence is purely for
• 55:08
  selfish reasons. And I can tell you right up
• 55:11
  front, that the selfish reason is that I want to be able to
• 55:15
  earn the hand of a dull title and use it in life.
• 55:22
  Okay, the only reason I want to use it any difference between
• 55:27
  the title and the mountain at this point because like pretty
• 55:31
  much once you have Like one flying Mountain, one swimming
• 55:34
  Mountain, one ground mount. Everything else is cosmetic.
• 55:39
  And so the title is very much cosmetic.
• 55:43
  But we have been saying some things about the PTR but there
• 55:49
  was a little bit of a sleeper bit of news in the PTR.
• 55:52
  There are some strings within the code on the PTR that point
• 55:57
  towards what people think is a Wrath of the Lich King login
• 56:03
  screen and Jared when you heard this news, did you squeal a
• 56:08
  little did you did you go finally?
• 56:10
  Did you did you like grab your arthas body?
• 56:13
  And say I'm coming dear. It's about to begin my son.
• 56:22
  The very day you were born. The forests of lordaeron
• 56:26
  whispered, the name, or those who don't have video, which is
• 56:30
  all of you Jared, has his little body pillow in the background.
• 56:33
  I've got, I've got my body pillow in one hand and my
• 56:36
  frostmourne replica in the other hand.
• 56:38
  And I, if my hands weren't full, I would be putting on my, my
• 56:45
  full replica Helm of domination, but I think I'm just kidding.
• 56:51
  I don't have any other things, but I want to take a screenshot
• 56:54
  of you and use that as the Image type episode title.
• 56:57
  Just you holding up nothing in your hands.
• 56:59
  For just kidding. I'm just holding my hands up and
• 57:02
  making commentary. No, but in all seriousness, I
• 57:08
  had to take a break at work. I had to, I had to excuse myself
• 57:12
  for a minute just to sit down for a second.
• 57:15
  When I when I pulled out my phone and there was a little
• 57:17
  notification from somewhat. It wasn't even me actually
• 57:21
  seeing the news from my head. It was someone in one of our
• 57:23
  discords. That that like freaked out and
• 57:28
  said something. And like a spoiler chair.
• 57:31
  That was just like, guys. I know it's like I did and be
• 57:37
  like, Jared are you? Okay?
• 57:39
  You're hyperventilating. Do you need to go home?
• 57:42
  It's a fitting some water. I need some water.
• 57:46
  Have you an ice pack? I got a case of the vapors.
• 57:51
  So it's safe to say that you're hyped about Wrath of the Lich
• 57:55
  King. Coming.
• 57:56
  Oh, absolutely. And I think I've gotta go ahead,
• 58:00
  go ahead. He, this is your height.
• 58:01
  This is your moment. Let it let it out here.
• 58:03
  No, i-i've actually with the, The Guild that I run within
• 58:10
  burning Crusade classic. I have had several conversations
• 58:13
  with them and the most, the most recent conversations that I've
• 58:19
  had with them and even back into, like, as early as like
• 58:23
  November, we were all talking about About like okay.
• 58:26
  What's the, what's the kind of canis that they're going with
• 58:28
  for release with with burning Crusade and all signs were
• 58:32
  pointing to January getting black Temple and then like maybe
• 58:38
  maybe four or five months later getting Sun?
• 58:40
  Well and then having that be there for a couple of months
• 58:43
  until they roll out, 3.0 in the classic realm, which would have
• 58:48
  been the precursor event to Wrath of the Lich King coming
• 58:53
  up. And so we were just kind of
• 58:59
  going back and forth about like, okay.
• 59:02
  What does that mean for the development cycle of classic.
• 59:05
  Wow, what does that mean for the the future of classic?
• 59:09
  Well, what are their plans for this?
• 59:10
  What are they? What are they intended to do?
• 59:12
  Because also something else to consider is that we've also had
• 59:16
  classic while season or maths tree be a thing that seems to be
• 59:21
  seems to be popular. Like, it's not just Like a
• 59:25
  handful of people that are jumping in due season or
• 59:27
  Mastery. There are several full-scale
• 59:30
  guilds that are very active in this classic community.
• 59:34
  That definitely wanted one of the classic experience at a
• 59:39
  faster pace. And I think that that that has
• 59:43
  or is translating over into the the the content cycle for, for
• 59:49
  TBC, classic and will probably continue to progress through the
• 59:53
  rest of the cycle. However, Are they end up taking
• 59:56
  this classic project? Whether they go through and just
• 59:59
  do burning Crusade and stop at the end of, they're not burning
• 1:00:01
  side, Wrath of the Lich King and stop at that because that's when
• 1:00:06
  like the end of Wrath into cataclysm was when the first
• 1:00:10
  major shift in World of Warcraft happened.
• 1:00:12
  That changed the the Overworld that we that we experience.
• 1:00:18
  So there's a lot of debate as to whether or not they're going to
• 1:00:20
  stop after wrath and not go into cataclysm and Beyond.
• 1:00:25
  And a whole lot of people that, now, that we've had this
• 1:00:27
  experience of classic. Wow, they want to go back.
• 1:00:32
  They want to go back and play cataclysm.
• 1:00:34
  They want to go back and play. Mists of Pandaria.
• 1:00:36
  They want to go back and plea, Legion.
• 1:00:38
  No one really wants to go back and play Ward's, Warlords of
• 1:00:40
  Draenor. No one wants that.
• 1:00:42
  Don't deliver that to us blizzard.
• 1:00:44
  If you're if you're listening, no one wants that.
• 1:00:48
  But we do what? Legion?
• 1:00:49
  It's a week if we can skip over wide and just go straight into
• 1:00:52
  Legion, that'd be great. But that like that begs the
• 1:00:56
  question like how far do they take this because every time
• 1:00:59
  that they pull another expansion through in classic, there is
• 1:01:04
  going to be a fragmentation of the player base because there
• 1:01:06
  are people that obviously the season of Mastery is a prime
• 1:01:10
  example of this. We had classic well that
• 1:01:13
  progressed into DC and then season our master came out and
• 1:01:16
  all the people that kind of moved moved along with burning
• 1:01:20
  Crusade that really just wanted that core experience of classic.
• 1:01:24
  Stayed behind. They just defaulted back to
• 1:01:28
  vanilla classic with season or Mastery.
• 1:01:31
  And so we're going to see something like that happen every
• 1:01:35
  time that they progress to a new era of World of Warcraft in
• 1:01:39
  classic. And I think it's a very serious
• 1:01:43
  topic to discuss because you have you have already a fragment
• 1:01:49
  of a player base, like we're all while players and we you have
• 1:01:53
  people That want to play live and want to play classic like
• 1:01:58
  myself that we don't have the time to do that.
• 1:02:01
  We have to choose one of the other to focus our time and
• 1:02:04
  attention on and every time they come out with another one of
• 1:02:09
  these, your fragmenting, the player base, even further.
• 1:02:13
  So there's a lot of questions as to how sustainable they can
• 1:02:16
  continue to go through this. And that's why I think that
• 1:02:19
  wrath is going to be kind of like the last to ride.
• 1:02:21
  And then once they have wrath classic out there, just going to
• 1:02:24
  In cycles of classic. Wow.
• 1:02:27
  Burning Crusade, and wrath and have those kind of keep keep
• 1:02:31
  perpetuating themselves, just to keep the player base from
• 1:02:34
  fragmenting itself even further than it needs to be.
• 1:02:38
  So that actually goes with the question that we got from
• 1:02:42
  epidemiology, which is again, they knew who direct us to.
• 1:02:47
  So more for Jared on this one. I think, how far would you like
• 1:02:51
  to see them go with the classic series?
• 1:02:54
  Op at Raf or keep going and you sort of already touched on that.
• 1:02:58
  Also, something you already also already touched on also if they
• 1:03:04
  were to keep going as far as Warlords of Draenor.
• 1:03:08
  Would you like to see them put in the shattrath raid that they
• 1:03:12
  cut out originally. So let's break that down first.
• 1:03:16
  Do you want to see them? Go to Wrath of the Lich King and
• 1:03:20
  say this is our war chest of Classic and stop there.
• 1:03:29
  Or do you want to see them go further and continue on through
• 1:03:32
  cataclysm and Mists of Pandaria and get to Warlords?
• 1:03:36
  And eventually we'll be getting our very own shadowlands classic
• 1:03:40
  eventually. I, I'm probably going to say
• 1:03:47
  something that's going to make. A lot of people in the classic
• 1:03:49
  communities upset, and probably probably, probably, even 50/50
• 1:03:55
  split on this one. Honestly.
• 1:03:57
  I don't want them to keep going beyond beyond wrath.
• 1:04:04
  I think that Like, I've already I've already made my case for
• 1:04:11
  why I think they shouldn't do that.
• 1:04:12
  Because each new expansion of they add to Classic, they
• 1:04:15
  further fragment the base of their of their players and we're
• 1:04:20
  all paying for just the One World of Warcraft, takes it.
• 1:04:25
  It could be serious. Like, we're all paying the same
• 1:04:28
  15 bucks a month and we get access to all of it all the
• 1:04:33
  time. For just that one that one entry
• 1:04:36
  point. And as long as long as it
• 1:04:41
  remains that one entry point into World of Warcraft and you
• 1:04:43
  get to choose your experience, however, you want to experience
• 1:04:46
  a World of Warcraft, whether you're going into classic or
• 1:04:49
  you're, you know, staying with live.
• 1:04:51
  I think that's fine, but I think And this is this may just be
• 1:04:57
  this may just be how I'm feeling currently about it because of
• 1:05:01
  how I feel towards shadowlands of.
• 1:05:04
  We've had very little content to go through or we've had we've
• 1:05:10
  had a lot of content but very spread out over over the last
• 1:05:14
  two years. And I haven't had the attention
• 1:05:20
  grabbed that, that the normal content, Cadence, of, of World
• 1:05:26
  of Warcraft, expansion, usually delivers.
• 1:05:29
  And so I've been looking for as much as I can outside of the
• 1:05:34
  live World of Warcraft experience.
• 1:05:38
  So my time has already been fragmented and I don't want them
• 1:05:42
  to do that further because I will have to make the conscious
• 1:05:44
  choice of do I In my favorite expansion of all time, Wrath of
• 1:05:48
  the Lich King or do I move on with the rest of everyone else
• 1:05:51
  and go into into cataclysm classic which another expansion
• 1:05:58
  that I had so much fun. It was the first full expansion
• 1:06:01
  and I rated through the entire thing and didn't didn't skip any
• 1:06:07
  raids that entire expansion and I had a blast doing it.
• 1:06:12
  But at some point I have to, I have to be real with myself and
• 1:06:15
  I think a lot of the community is already starting to do that
• 1:06:18
  of, like, how fragmented do I want my time to be?
• 1:06:21
  And I think the overwhelming answer on that is we don't want
• 1:06:24
  our time to be too fragmented. okay, so I have A few different
• 1:06:32
  takes, I don't mind them. Releasing these various
• 1:06:38
  Classics. I just think that they're
• 1:06:41
  releasing the material too fast in a way that's going to, that's
• 1:06:46
  going to end up. Biting them classic has, its it
• 1:06:52
  has its time and they, they release that sort of stuff if
• 1:06:55
  they wanted to be like, okay, all the classics out and we will
• 1:06:58
  do like this season of Mastery that Great.
• 1:07:02
  Same thing with burning Crusade for releasing this stuff or at
• 1:07:05
  least new stuff. Now we're going to do seasons of
• 1:07:07
  Mastery, but the space between classic being released and the
• 1:07:12
  burning Crusade, being released should have been spread out
• 1:07:14
  further so that they never catch up to themselves because Classic
• 1:07:21
  came out in 2019, right? That's only 3 years ago.
• 1:07:26
  If we get an expansion, every two years and we're now reaching
• 1:07:31
  Wrath of the Lich King basically three years after Classic was
• 1:07:35
  released. You are literally going at
• 1:07:39
  twice, the speed of your current release schedule.
• 1:07:44
  And that isn't sustainable, that does split up the the audience
• 1:07:49
  and I think you can get people to anticipate things a little
• 1:07:53
  bit longer a little bit longer. Enjoy what they have a little
• 1:07:59
  bit longer. Without like, constantly
• 1:08:03
  throwing this new stuff in. So I think that like if they are
• 1:08:08
  going to release pass Wrath of the Lich King, maybe be like,
• 1:08:11
  okay like hey, we've got this error.
• 1:08:13
  This is the, this is the original Trinity.
• 1:08:16
  This is the the Stone Age. Wow, and boom.
• 1:08:21
  Hit Stone Age. Wow, and then we're gonna years
• 1:08:25
  later, released Bronze Age. Wow, and this is Bronze Age at.
• 1:08:28
  Wow. And then later on, we'll be
• 1:08:29
  like, oh man. This is the Silver age and
• 1:08:32
  Hopefully after the Silver age. Cool, come this golden age of.
• 1:08:35
  Wow, that will come sometime soon.
• 1:08:38
  But that is like, you know, rainbows gumdrops and lollipops.
• 1:08:42
  And now you can flat-out caught me a shill.
• 1:08:44
  If if this happens, we will see only the future knows.
• 1:08:48
  It could be that people would. Rather me say golden age.
• 1:08:52
  Silver age, Bronze Age. What we're currently in?
• 1:08:56
  That's a matter of opinion, but I think you can space it out.
• 1:09:00
  So you're not immediately. Catching up with yourself that
• 1:09:03
  so that like, you know, there is a nostalgic effector people
• 1:09:07
  became nostalgic for Mists of Pandaria not the day Warlords
• 1:09:12
  came out but later on like when we're deeper into Legion, we're
• 1:09:17
  like, you know what Mists of Pandaria really was good.
• 1:09:21
  Like there's a lot that was great about that people like
• 1:09:24
  Legion and Legions Blockbusters and stuff. but there were
• 1:09:29
  complaints about Legion and When we look back and lie to me like
• 1:09:37
  yeah, that was great and everything, but some of the
• 1:09:39
  stuff within Legion is like the complaints we have today that
• 1:09:43
  they're still trying to rectify borrowed power is Legions baby
• 1:09:47
  and so forth. So like, you know, give us I
• 1:09:50
  think give time for people to become nostalgic for that as a
• 1:09:53
  factor and like in the case of Wrath of the Lich King in
• 1:09:59
  particular. I think that the reason that
• 1:10:01
  they are they seem to be We of course have no, we have no
• 1:10:07
  actual like data to back this up other than the the patch cycles
• 1:10:11
  that they have been working with through both classic and burning
• 1:10:16
  Crusade classic. Is that I think the reason that
• 1:10:21
  they're trying to get to wrath so quickly is because they know
• 1:10:25
  how popular it is. They know how popular the Wrath
• 1:10:29
  of the Lich King expansion was they want to get back to that
• 1:10:34
  because they know for a fact, a lot of people will come back to
• 1:10:43
  play wrath again. So many people will come back to
• 1:10:46
  play wrath again because it was The hay day.
• 1:10:52
  That that was, that was world of warcraft's Heyday.
• 1:10:55
  Like they, I think they got higher in subscription count a
• 1:10:59
  little bit beyond begun twice. They've done it twice after
• 1:11:06
  Wrath of the Lich King, but they didn't have the sustained
• 1:11:09
  numbers. Since then, like they've spiked
• 1:11:15
  up above it, but they haven't been able to maintain the
• 1:11:18
  subscribership that they had in Wrath of the Lich King.
• 1:11:21
  So I think getting back to that getting that content back into
• 1:11:27
  players hands in, in the way that well, similar to the way
• 1:11:32
  that that, that we all experienced it back in.
• 1:11:35
  The day is is something that that they're looking forward to
• 1:11:40
  to get out into people's. You don't think Legion sustained
• 1:11:43
  sub numbers not as well as recent fight.
• 1:11:47
  They spiked in Legion and I feel like Legion really did a good
• 1:11:53
  job sustaining. The content of the content,
• 1:11:57
  pacing the story, The amount of people talking all about the
• 1:12:01
  game. Yeah, again, we don't we don't
• 1:12:07
  have the numbers. So like you can look back but
• 1:12:09
  like it, like it's going to be a fight about Nostalgia.
• 1:12:13
  Your Nostalgia for that versus like my Nostalgia for Legion
• 1:12:17
  versus like we're we feel the game is sustainable and like
• 1:12:22
  there's other things as well. There's other products that
• 1:12:24
  would have came out that would have been fighting him and so
• 1:12:26
  forth. So what we'll see.
• 1:12:29
  But again, I guess it's just not something we could have, we
• 1:12:31
  could prove. Still the question to you
• 1:12:35
  though, even if they're like racing to that.
• 1:12:37
  For some sort of money train, is that?
• 1:12:44
  You would still get some people who would be interested in
• 1:12:47
  coming back for these other things, and Mists of Pandaria
• 1:12:50
  being one of those expansions that everybody's looking forward
• 1:12:53
  to, why not rush to through cataclysm and get the Mists of
• 1:12:57
  Pandaria. Why not rush through Warlords
• 1:13:01
  and get to the legion a legion thing because we were like, oh
• 1:13:04
  man, then Allegiant. Unlike our got to be super
• 1:13:06
  powerful. Look at all these weapons and
• 1:13:07
  they're not shut off anymore so I can actually use them.
• 1:13:11
  Yeah, that like I think that there is there is a case there
• 1:13:15
  is a case to continue beyond wrath, but with my experience
• 1:13:22
  and even even the anecdotal evidence of what I've seen
• 1:13:28
  happened. Communities in, with, just
• 1:13:31
  within the classic Community. Moving from classic to TBC
• 1:13:36
  classic. And, even with the predictive
• 1:13:39
  of, yeah, like it's I don't think it's sustainable to
• 1:13:45
  continue to add all of these eras into the game because they
• 1:13:51
  are going to continue to cycle them unless unless and this Is
• 1:13:57
  entirely possible that they will do this?
• 1:14:01
  But do something similar to what they did with the classic Realms
• 1:14:06
  and continue to support burning Crusade servers like that.
• 1:14:13
  The version of the servers that are burning Crusade continue to
• 1:14:16
  support them just the same way as they continue to support the
• 1:14:18
  classic servers and then just duplicate them into Rath servers
• 1:14:23
  and have everyone choose like do you want to have these
• 1:14:26
  characters that are on the BC servers move to rathered?
• 1:14:29
  You want to stay here and adjust?
• 1:14:31
  Continue to support it that way and not do something similar to
• 1:14:34
  season or Mastery, and keep the season play to vanilla classic
• 1:14:38
  only. That.
• 1:14:42
  Has much less of a chance of fragmenting the player base even
• 1:14:47
  further. The only time that I see the
• 1:14:49
  fragmentation really like digging in and becoming a
• 1:14:52
  detriment is if they can, if they choose to to Do seasonal,
• 1:15:00
  seasonal versions of each of these each of these expansions,
• 1:15:04
  as they continue to add more into the pool, because there is
• 1:15:09
  going to be the natural progression that people want to
• 1:15:11
  follow, like, Old played burning Crusade, they got through the
• 1:15:14
  raids in burning Crusade and they're they've consumed the
• 1:15:17
  content that they wanted to and burning Crusade.
• 1:15:20
  And they want to just move on to the next one and two Wrath of
• 1:15:23
  the Lich King and continue on and their adventures.
• 1:15:26
  With these new characters that they've made or versions of
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  their original characters. They've recreated to go through
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  these experiences and they want to continue on through through
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  time and have that time capsule experience of having this
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  characteristic. After that, they started in
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  classic continue on as if they restarted and got a second
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  chance to go through. I think then the second part of
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  the question though. Sure, right.
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  If they did, choose to go forward.
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  Right? Would you want them to put in
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  some of these quote-unquote cut content, like the shattrath raid
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  and Warlords of Draenor? I think when it comes to the
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  markedly. Less popular expansions like
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  will load your drain where and cataclysm.
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  I think. Changing anything about those
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  expansions, you have to do it with immense trepidation because
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  the popular ones, everyone has pretty good memories of how
• 1:16:38
  things worked. And if you add new things that
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  are good unto the good memories that people already had you run
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  into less friction, but if you have a bad memory and you want
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  to add something. That may be good or bad.
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  And you add that on to the bad memory, it has a higher chance
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  of causing more friction, because that bad memory is where
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  the the feeling is seated. So, you're coming from a place
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  of of negativity as opposed to a place of positivity, going into
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  into a change like that. So I think that there's probably
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  more more harm that can be done than good by adding additional
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  content that may or may not have been cut.
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  From that even if they even if they just make something from
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  Whole cloth that it wasn't even something that they had even
• 1:17:34
  thought about back in the day that they added to your
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  cataclysm or your Warlords of Draenor experience.
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  I still don't think that that that that would even go over.
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  Well. Or be received.
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  Well, okay. Okay.
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  Yeah, I I feel like you're kind of in a rock and hard place
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  because the purest are going to hate you when you mess around
• 1:18:03
  with the stuff that they loved. And there's more chance of
• 1:18:07
  getting that kind of backlash and people may not be interested
• 1:18:12
  in a expansion that they've written off and so the stuff
• 1:18:15
  that you put into the expansions that need the love more than
• 1:18:19
  more than the Classic cult hits are going are going to maybe not
• 1:18:25
  see as much attention. So we'll see as for me.
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  I think they should they should stop at Wrath of the Lich King.
• 1:18:34
  But as a business, I think they'll just keep milking it.
• 1:18:39
  We will see if they can do more things.
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  But Jared you mentioned one thing and I kind of like this is
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  totally a side. It's not in our notes.
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  I'm just going to talk. About this quickly.
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  You mentioned how like shadowlands has content but it's
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  come out slowly and I really think outside of nine point.
• 1:18:59
  Two point, five dropping a bunch of things that we weren't
• 1:19:02
  expecting shadowlands has lacked a lot of things that other
• 1:19:05
  expansions have for the last little bit.
• 1:19:08
  We have had time walking raids being introduced with, the new
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  expansion hasn't happened in shadowlands.
• 1:19:13
  We should have gotten something for.
• 1:19:15
  Mr. Pandaria, Throne of Thunder, or something like that, right?
• 1:19:19
  Or Brawler's Guild. Hey, that's something that used
• 1:19:22
  to come out every so often. No Brawler's Guild Heritage
• 1:19:26
  armor was something. They started in BF and said,
• 1:19:29
  would they would continue into the next expansion that sort of
• 1:19:31
  disappeared. I'd love to see the other races,
• 1:19:34
  get their heritage heritage armor.
• 1:19:38
  I agree with them not putting in a new class or a new race.
• 1:19:44
  I think that would have been. I think we're kind of Hit the
• 1:19:49
  point with that especially in you races like him on.
• 1:19:52
  We just had a bunch of new races with the Allied races and it's
• 1:19:55
  much easier to do those with out having to stuff in.
• 1:19:59
  So like theirs. There isn't as many tent pole
• 1:20:04
  stuff. People are really fatigued on
• 1:20:08
  the borrowed power system. And that was a big tent pole of
• 1:20:12
  the shadowlands. Yeah, and like some of the stuff
• 1:20:17
  that is just like the stuff that we enjoy in in a nine point two
• 1:20:21
  point. One three, nine point.
• 1:20:24
  One point, five or nine point 0.5., That would have been like
• 1:20:27
  nice to have like, oh, let's go do the Heritage armor for this.
• 1:20:31
  Let's go do this small little distraction in between big story
• 1:20:35
  element. Just have been utterly missing.
• 1:20:37
  So Pacing and content have been. At lower points and I would have
• 1:20:47
  liked. Yeah.
• 1:20:50
  Yeah, and I wholeheartedly agree with that.
• 1:20:52
  It's a like we for several expansions in a row.
• 1:20:58
  We've had we've had like little little like I want to call him
• 1:21:05
  just a little tree trades like little like 23 boss raids, even
• 1:21:09
  even one boss raids like that that is acceptable as content
• 1:21:13
  like because it's something to You and we haven't had those
• 1:21:18
  little little bits and Nuggets of content in whatever form.
• 1:21:23
  We didn't even have another dungeon or set of dungeons.
• 1:21:27
  I should say because we obviously we had tab Tessa fish
• 1:21:29
  added in 9.1, but the only damage that we had added, we
• 1:21:35
  didn't have. Well, we only had three raids.
• 1:21:38
  We didn't have like the traditional, like, here's an
• 1:21:41
  introduction raid. Here's here's your first tier
• 1:21:44
  second. Tier here, sir.
• 1:21:45
  And tear. And then like a mini boss in
• 1:21:47
  between. It was just, this is, this is a
• 1:21:49
  three raid. Only only three raids, nothing,
• 1:21:54
  nothing more. Nothing less, only through raids
• 1:21:56
  for the entire expansion. That's all you get.
• 1:21:58
  They're fantastic raids. Don't get me wrong.
• 1:22:00
  I don't want, I don't want to disparage, the, the quality of
• 1:22:03
  the raids in any way, shape, or form because they have been
• 1:22:06
  fantastic. I think I think part of it is
• 1:22:09
  because of the amount of time that we've had between
• 1:22:13
  introductions of new raid. That the fatigue has been
• 1:22:19
  immense, like we were in sanctum of domination longer than we
• 1:22:24
  were in and I maybe I may be lying.
• 1:22:27
  Here. You are also somewhat 18 months,
• 1:22:29
  Siege of Orgrimmar before you even start this was gonna say, I
• 1:22:34
  was gonna say the final raid of Of what was I Loza?
• 1:22:40
  Yes, we're in there longer than my llosa, right?
• 1:22:44
  I'd have to look that up. But I'm going to doubt it.
• 1:22:48
  Either way. It's been a long time.
• 1:22:51
  It's the exact point where we're comparing it to end of expansion
• 1:22:55
  droughts. Yes, and I'm hoping that Ray
• 1:22:58
  don't. Yeah, and I'm hoping that that
• 1:23:00
  doesn't foretell what will happen with what is shaping out
• 1:23:07
  to be a great. Great so far.
• 1:23:09
  But yeah as things we're on, they lose their luster.
• 1:23:13
  You get you get tired of it and then glad that that will give us
• 1:23:20
  the time to really put our team to team.
• 1:23:22
  Fine tuned. As we move into 10.0., I Guess
• 1:23:26
  That's the Silver Lining but for teams that are already going and
• 1:23:29
  might consume this content really fast.
• 1:23:32
  Like if you are chasing through heroic right now, looking to
• 1:23:37
  come. Complete that in the next like
• 1:23:40
  month, what happens? Nine months down the line.
• 1:23:43
  If you aren't pushing into Mythic, we will see, we will
• 1:23:47
  see. Hopefully, we will get some news
• 1:23:51
  and stuff coming about what's going on.
• 1:23:54
  We had a BlizzCon That was supposed to be in February, that
• 1:23:57
  new BlizzCon online, that they canceled, for smart reasons,
• 1:24:01
  considering the current rate atmosphere.
• 1:24:05
  Well, but, and there's probably stuff that they Of wanted to
• 1:24:08
  announce that they that they are playing close to the chest.
• 1:24:12
  And we just said last week about all those news conference and
• 1:24:17
  how much they felt very scripted, which might have been
• 1:24:20
  like a, don't you dare talk about 10.0.
• 1:24:22
  That's not coming until we get through, right, great?
• 1:24:25
  The world first or something. So I guess one last question
• 1:24:28
  Jared. When do you think we will hear
• 1:24:30
  about 10.0? I think very quickly after race
• 1:24:38
  to world versus is ended. I think, I think will will hear
• 1:24:44
  something before the end of March.
• 1:24:49
  End of March. Hmm.
• 1:24:52
  That's that's my my best guesstimate right now is that
• 1:24:55
  we'll hear something by the end of March.
• 1:24:58
  Because and you know why? The reason the other reason I
• 1:25:03
  say that is because of the the way that the campaign for 9.2 is
• 1:25:07
  shaping out, we're going to be arriving at the end of The
• 1:25:11
  Campaign by the end of March and in in the interviews that we
• 1:25:17
  talked about last week. That was that was kind of the
• 1:25:20
  feel that I was getting out of it that that like obviously
• 1:25:23
  people are asking in those interviews like, hey Wednesday,
• 1:25:26
  when are we going to get announcements about Future of.
• 1:25:29
  Wow, when's 10.0 coming? Wake?
• 1:25:32
  When are we going to hear anything?
• 1:25:33
  They explicitly answered. That question, whenever it was
• 1:25:36
  raised with the answer. We want to give 9.2 the space
• 1:25:41
  that it needs to breathe. And I think that that means that
• 1:25:46
  they want to give, they want to give the content the ability to
• 1:25:53
  be seen by the majority of the player base before they start
• 1:25:59
  jumping to the next big thing. Okay.
• 1:26:03
  Yeah, I'm going to throw this out here. early May he's our
• 1:26:11
  trailer for the new expansion. Okay, that's that's my shot of
• 1:26:15
  the dark will put it in. Put it up.
• 1:26:18
  There could be a nice birthday gift for me.
• 1:26:21
  I'll take it. Okay.
• 1:26:25
  Well fine, I'm gonna throw it on my birthday.
• 1:26:28
  So Sunday May 8th. That's when they're going to
• 1:26:31
  throw out there. Boom.
• 1:26:33
  That's when I go to this trailer, guys.
• 1:26:35
  Mother's Day, all the mothers out there.
• 1:26:37
  You're getting that, your mother's sake and that's your
• 1:26:39
  Mother's Day, gift and open back from the shadow lands with a new
• 1:26:43
  Swagger Mother's Day. All right, but with that said,
• 1:26:51
  Thank You epitome for that email.
• 1:26:54
  And if you guys want to send in your thoughts or send questions
• 1:26:59
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  in through email that fast podcast at gmail.com or just hit
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  us up on Twitter, which is also fast podcast Jared.
• 1:27:13
  Where can people find you around the World of Warcraft.
• 1:27:18
  Well, Manny, you can find me on Twitter.
• 1:27:21
  Primarily. I'm there every day.
• 1:27:24
  Logged in on Twitter at Jared RPG.
• 1:27:28
  I'm also consistently logged into Discord where we as a
• 1:27:33
  matter of fact have a server you did mention this just a second
• 1:27:36
  ago, but for the for the sake of the audience, we do have a
• 1:27:40
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• 1:27:42
  We have lots of people in there talking about all sorts of
• 1:27:44
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• 1:27:50
  in there. So if you're interested in
• 1:27:51
  joining in the conversation, talking with All these wonderful
• 1:27:55
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• 1:27:57
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• 1:28:06
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  your hits secrets.