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- 0:04Speaker 1: Fall systems going clear for lifting?
- 0:35Speaker 2: What is going on? Everybody Happy? Thursday? Big Marley and
- 0:39Speaker 2: I are back talking some fights. UFC Fight Nights in
- 0:42Speaker 2: a Sacramento, California, thirteen fights. Ten of the thirteen are
- 0:46Speaker 2: expected to finish a couple of big Boy slash Girl
- 0:50Speaker 2: favorites on the card, but hey, thirteen fights is good.
- 0:52Speaker 2: Ten out of thirteen to finish. That equals some violence.
- 0:56Speaker 2: And I'll be with you in Vegas watching them, probably
- 0:59Speaker 2: at Circles Swim to start. So I'm very excited. It
- 1:02Speaker 2: doesn't matter who's on the screen. Money is to be made.
- 1:04Speaker 2: Big Marley, how we doing today?
- 1:06Speaker 1: Yeah? Man good. I can't wait for Vegas. And I
- 1:10Speaker 1: don't think I've ever picked so many finishes on a
- 1:13Speaker 1: card as well, So I think we're gonna have a
- 1:14Speaker 1: lot of early violence on this one, probably a lot
- 1:16Speaker 1: of high scores and hopefully we hit them right.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Absolutely. I love that. Can't wait to watch them with
- 1:22Speaker 2: you and the Ship and Nation crew again. We will
- 1:24Speaker 2: be out in Vegas celebrating Djen on Friday. If you
- 1:28Speaker 2: have not found out the details, you can go to
- 1:31Speaker 2: Twitter with Tambo. You can get Big Marley R. Information
- 1:34Speaker 2: in the discord it's not too late. You could book
- 1:36Speaker 2: a flight tomorrow morning, get out there for the night
- 1:39Speaker 2: tomorrow afternoon. We would love to see everybody again. We
- 1:43Speaker 2: are talking some UFC though thirteen fights. I don't really
- 1:46Speaker 2: have anything more to add. Again, I think a lot
- 1:48Speaker 2: of big scores, a very good main event. Fluffy Hernandez
- 1:51Speaker 2: five point eight, eight takedowns per fifteen minutes, Gregor Rodriguez
- 1:55Speaker 2: an Action Pax Fighter. It's pretty hard to get away
- 1:58Speaker 2: from it. But there's a chance of scores ninety eight
- 2:00Speaker 2: for Fluffy maybe, and enough higher scores happen elsewhere. But
- 2:05Speaker 2: I think it's hard to get away from the main
- 2:07Speaker 2: event after that everything. I think you can make cases
- 2:10Speaker 2: to fade any thoughts for you.
- 2:13Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I don't know how many lineups I'm
- 2:15Speaker 1: gonna make, especially being in Vegas. I don't think we can.
- 2:17Speaker 1: We can't do lineup there.
- 2:19Speaker 2: You gotta enter, yeah, whatever you play and you gotta enter. Yeah.
- 2:23Speaker 1: So that's damn. That's gonna keep me limited. So I
- 2:25Speaker 1: think I'm gonna force myself to be all in on
- 2:28Speaker 1: the main most likely because a lot of the ones
- 2:30Speaker 1: I would usually want to target are are the high
- 2:34Speaker 1: the high prices that I don't know if I'll even
- 2:35Speaker 1: be able to get to.
- 2:38Speaker 2: For sure. Sorry, I'm true and nice. The other fight
- 2:43Speaker 2: that's really tough. You can see you have a lot
- 2:45Speaker 2: of five star fights. But the other fight that's relatively
- 2:47Speaker 2: tough to get away is priced right by Anthony Hernandez
- 2:51Speaker 2: and Gregor Rodriguez. That's Jackson McVeigh and West Scholtz. I
- 2:55Speaker 2: think that is a phenomenal, phenomenal fight. Those are the
- 2:57Speaker 2: two anchors again ownership WILF. But if I had to
- 3:01Speaker 2: pick two to anchor from, those are the ones for sure.
- 3:04Speaker 2: All right, let's talk some fights again. Appreciate everyone hanging out.
- 3:07Speaker 2: Oh ESK is a like bun and subscribe button. It
- 3:10Speaker 2: helps us out a ton. First fight of the night,
- 3:13Speaker 2: big favorite chance Chanell die Er minus seven to fifty
- 3:16Speaker 2: taking on a lease read a plus five thirty four
- 3:18Speaker 2: minus one ninety for this fight to finish dire minus
- 3:21Speaker 2: one eighty inside the distance read plus one thousand dire
- 3:25Speaker 2: round one plus one eighty five. I mean, yeah, she
- 3:29Speaker 2: should win. I think she probably gets a knockout. But
- 3:31Speaker 2: she's ninety seven hundred, So what do you plan on
- 3:33Speaker 2: doing at that price? Take?
- 3:35Speaker 1: Yeah, a rare one star fight. Even with the one hundred
- 3:38Speaker 1: and fifty lineups, I would completely fade this fight. I
- 3:42Speaker 1: don't know that I've ever had a one star fight
- 3:44Speaker 1: end up on the optimal lineup either, So I feel
- 3:46Speaker 1: like it's a it's a good face, I mean a
- 3:48Speaker 1: good tale on this one. Diers should get the wins.
- 3:51Speaker 1: This is a striking match really either way. But Dier's
- 3:54Speaker 1: just so much faster, She's younger, just the cleaner overall
- 3:59Speaker 1: st but I feel like she's gonna spend a lot
- 4:01Speaker 1: of time kind of dancing around. It's not gonna be
- 4:03Speaker 1: a really high volume in the pocket type of fight.
- 4:06Speaker 1: And once you get over ninety five hundred dollars, it's
- 4:09Speaker 1: really tough to justify paying that price. So ninety seven
- 4:12Speaker 1: hundred for Dire. She had a finish in her last fight,
- 4:16Speaker 1: she only scored ninety five point eight. If you give
- 4:18Speaker 1: her ninety five point eight, I have a really good
- 4:20Speaker 1: feeling she's not gonna be on the optimal lineup at
- 4:22Speaker 1: ninety seven hundred, so I'm gonna ful fade her at
- 4:25Speaker 1: least read. I mean, if you think she has a chance,
- 4:28Speaker 1: she could play her. But I put five stars for
- 4:30Speaker 1: the Dire side just as a way to get different.
- 4:32Speaker 1: If I had to use this fight, I would still
- 4:34Speaker 1: rather take Dire because no one's gonna be on her.
- 4:36Speaker 1: I think I have her as my third or fourth
- 4:41Speaker 1: I think the third highest our least one fighter on
- 4:44Speaker 1: the card, so that's the only reason to play Dire,
- 4:46Speaker 1: and I think she could get a finish, but I
- 4:48Speaker 1: have her winning all three rounds and then a decision.
- 4:51Speaker 1: I just don't know that there's any chance she can
- 4:53Speaker 1: get there.
- 4:55Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I'm not playing the least read.
- 4:57Speaker 2: I not playing dire. It's been ninety six hundred man,
- 5:01Speaker 2: then Orbai loses last week. It's been really difficult for
- 5:04Speaker 2: me in the ninety six hundred price range. Thankfully diers
- 5:07Speaker 2: ninety seven hundred. I feel good that she'll win, she
- 5:10Speaker 2: won't be optimal, and we can move on from that fight.
- 5:13Speaker 2: Ah Man did us a disservice. Our man Kenny w
- 5:18Speaker 2: shout out to him winning the MMA World Championship and
- 5:21Speaker 2: our man cheets take second. Those two were really close,
- 5:25Speaker 2: so shout out to both of you guys. Matt Kay
- 5:27Speaker 2: I think was like fourth or fifth. Phenomenal showing from
- 5:31Speaker 2: many of the ship in Nation members Kenny wins it.
- 5:34Speaker 2: Jalen Turner the leverage play. Congrats, awesome stuff right there,
- 5:38Speaker 2: all right, next fight, yep, congrats for sure, next fight
- 5:41Speaker 2: on the slates. And again this about orders from Monday.
- 5:45Speaker 2: That's when I put these odds in the pricing up
- 5:47Speaker 2: and everything. But it might have changed a little bit.
- 5:50Speaker 2: But Jackson McVay and Wesley Schultz minus one seventy McVay
- 5:55Speaker 2: plus one forty nine is Shultz minus four fifty for
- 5:58Speaker 2: this fight to finish. McVeigh minus one ten inside the distance,
- 6:01Speaker 2: Schultz plus one seventy five McVeigh round one plus one
- 6:05Speaker 2: eighty five Schultz round one plus three hundred under one
- 6:08Speaker 2: and a half minus one eighty. I mean all of
- 6:11Speaker 2: these just slam dunk plays. If you fade the main event,
- 6:14Speaker 2: I think you're forced to play this fight. I mean
- 6:18Speaker 2: both of them will be high owned. Ideally I would
- 6:20Speaker 2: play both mcveay, Schultz and Hernandez Rodriguez. But if you
- 6:24Speaker 2: do that, you have to be kind of worried what
- 6:27Speaker 2: you're doing in your other spots. But if we keep
- 6:29Speaker 2: all thirteen fights, I think ownership will be spread out enough.
- 6:32Speaker 2: I just want to jam this fight, even at high
- 6:34Speaker 2: ownership and what are your thoughts. But then I see
- 6:37Speaker 2: you have Wes Schultz as your preferred play. It looks
- 6:40Speaker 2: like so you're picking them to win.
- 6:42Speaker 1: I am picking them to win, but not with any
- 6:44Speaker 1: real confidence. I just think that he is a very
- 6:48Speaker 1: slick grappler, and if this fight does hit the ground,
- 6:51Speaker 1: there's just a lot of ways he can submit McVeigh,
- 6:53Speaker 1: and we've seen McVeigh submit.
- 6:55Speaker 2: It as well.
- 6:56Speaker 1: So that's why I have Schultz as my four star.
- 7:00Speaker 1: If you're making a lot of lineups, I would not
- 7:01Speaker 1: be against having more McVeigh than having Schultz, because if
- 7:05Speaker 1: there's really a first round finished, most of that equity,
- 7:09Speaker 1: I think is to McVeigh. He is the better striker,
- 7:12Speaker 1: the more dangerous striker, and he's also nasty in the
- 7:15Speaker 1: clinch as well. I just don't think Schultz can hang
- 7:17Speaker 1: with him on the feet. But on the ground early
- 7:20Speaker 1: in the fight maybe it could go a little bit
- 7:22Speaker 1: either way, but I trust Schultz the longer the fight goes,
- 7:25Speaker 1: and I do think he is just a better, more
- 7:27Speaker 1: skilled submission grappler in this one, and he could get
- 7:29Speaker 1: a finish in the first or the third round. As
- 7:32Speaker 1: seventy five hundred dollars. I'm really cool with either one
- 7:35Speaker 1: of them. But McVeigh, I think almost all of his
- 7:37Speaker 1: win equity is in the first eight minutes or so
- 7:40Speaker 1: of this fight, because if he is as aggressive as
- 7:43Speaker 1: he usually is and he's fighting off takedowns, I just
- 7:46Speaker 1: think he's going to start to slow down as the
- 7:48Speaker 1: fight moves along, and then the submissions could be easier
- 7:50Speaker 1: for Schultz. So Schultz is the first underdog on this card.
- 7:54Speaker 1: I'm picking to win. I mean, you can kind of
- 7:56Speaker 1: tell the other ones I'm picking as well, but I
- 7:58Speaker 1: feel really good about getting this fight in general, so
- 8:02Speaker 1: I'll have a lot of Shultz.
- 8:04Speaker 2: Yeah, I want a bunch of both sides. But everything
- 8:07Speaker 2: you said, I agree with McVeigh. All nine of his
- 8:09Speaker 2: pro fights have ended inside the distance nine eight of
- 8:13Speaker 2: those nine have ended in round one. Ten of Schultz's
- 8:16Speaker 2: twelve fights ended inside the distance. McVay better striker, Schultz
- 8:20Speaker 2: better grappler. Under or minus four hundred on Monday, Now
- 8:24Speaker 2: it's minus four fifty to finish. I just think everything's
- 8:27Speaker 2: pointing in the direction for this fight to score well,
- 8:29Speaker 2: So I'll have a lot of it. I picked McVeigh,
- 8:31Speaker 2: but don't mind Schultz. For the Savings. Next fight on
- 8:35Speaker 2: the card, we have Gage Young taking on Stanley Doris
- 8:43Speaker 2: Door in this evil you know how.
- 8:45Speaker 1: To pronounce his last name Doors Sainville. I'm not sure
- 8:49Speaker 1: I would call him Stan.
- 8:50Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going stand stand the man. Gage Young taking
- 8:53Speaker 2: on Stan the Man minus one fifty Young plus one
- 8:56Speaker 2: thirty Stand plus one fifteen for this fight to finish,
- 8:59Speaker 2: Young plus two thirty five inside the distance stand plus
- 9:02Speaker 2: three twenty five. This is one of the three fights
- 9:05Speaker 2: expected to go the distance. It's also in the mid tier.
- 9:08Speaker 2: If you look at other mid tier fights on this card,
- 9:11Speaker 2: Shamil Kennedy minus four hundred to finish, Petrinos Pibac minus
- 9:17Speaker 2: one sixty to finish than if you want to look
- 9:19Speaker 2: at right above that, Hernandez Rodriguez minus three twenty five
- 9:24Speaker 2: to finish. So for all for that reason, it's pretty
- 9:26Speaker 2: tough for me to get to this fight in the
- 9:28Speaker 2: mid tier will get you different. Another one to excuse me,
- 9:32Speaker 2: Nasrat Chris Padilla also expected to go the distance. I
- 9:35Speaker 2: think it's clearly Young and Stan and then nazareat Padilla
- 9:41Speaker 2: are the two mid tier fights that I don't have
- 9:43Speaker 2: much interest in. I think the field sees at the
- 9:45Speaker 2: same but I think I'd rather just to be honest,
- 9:48Speaker 2: go make Vey alright, plug in McVeigh, drop McVeigh to Schultz,
- 9:52Speaker 2: leave twelve hundred. Then I would try to play those
- 9:54Speaker 2: other fights to get different. So I don't love the upside.
- 9:57Speaker 2: What are your what's your take?
- 9:59Speaker 1: I'm actually not against this fight, especially as a mid
- 10:02Speaker 1: range fight. I think this could be one of the
- 10:04Speaker 1: higher volume fights on both sides. I liked what I
- 10:08Speaker 1: saw from Stan. He looks like he's got good hands.
- 10:11Speaker 1: He'll like to stand in the pocket and trade, and
- 10:13Speaker 1: Young is kind of the same way. And also both
- 10:16Speaker 1: guys are willing to mix in takedowns. Stan was going
- 10:19Speaker 1: for submissions right away as soon as he would get
- 10:21Speaker 1: a takedown, So I like the underdog again in this one.
- 10:24Speaker 1: I just think the overall skills, he is young, he's
- 10:27Speaker 1: fought less competition, he doesn't have the UFC experience yet.
- 10:32Speaker 1: But just watching them and I thought Stan looked pretty
- 10:35Speaker 1: dang good. The one worry I would say is I
- 10:38Speaker 1: think it was his most previous fight. I think they
- 10:41Speaker 1: mentioned that he was a big underdog in that fight,
- 10:44Speaker 1: and I thought he was clearly winning the whole thing.
- 10:46Speaker 1: But just him being an underdog going in had me thinking, Man,
- 10:49Speaker 1: what did people see in this other guy? Or are
- 10:52Speaker 1: they really not believing in Stan here? But because I
- 10:54Speaker 1: think he is UFC talent, I think he could mix
- 10:57Speaker 1: in a couple of takedowns here. I think he could
- 10:58Speaker 1: get a knockout. I even think he could get a submission.
- 11:01Speaker 1: So I'm picking Stan to win. But again, I mean
- 11:04Speaker 1: I haven't met him yet. I don't know that I'm
- 11:05Speaker 1: that confident in him. I would play Young as well
- 11:08Speaker 1: because he is the more experienced one. He's got knockout power.
- 11:11Speaker 1: He'll go for submissions and takedowns as well. So I
- 11:14Speaker 1: think this is a sneaky fight in the mid range
- 11:16Speaker 1: where either guy has ninety plus maybe even hundred plus potential.
- 11:22Speaker 2: Okay, I'm probably gonna raise my interest a little bit.
- 11:26Speaker 2: And you're talking about Stan. He has taken money since
- 11:29Speaker 2: Open Gage Young Open minus two. He just froze up.
- 11:32Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know if we lost me or if
- 11:35Speaker 1: we lost title.
- 11:37Speaker 2: I hear you. You don't hear me.
- 11:40Speaker 1: I hear you. Now there you are, You're back, all right?
- 11:41Speaker 2: Cool? Oh my gosh, that's annoying. I hear you. I
- 11:45Speaker 2: heard you. The whole time. You got me you sure? Yeah, yeah,
- 11:51Speaker 2: all right, hopefully they do.
- 11:52Speaker 1: Let us know in chat if you can hear them, all.
- 11:54Speaker 2: Right, let me know in chat. What I was saying.
- 11:56Speaker 2: What I was saying is all right, cool, I don't
- 12:00Speaker 2: know what's going on. What I was saying is you
- 12:02Speaker 2: you like to stand the underdog Gage Young. That's where
- 12:05Speaker 2: the money's gone to Gage Young open minus two to
- 12:07Speaker 2: fifty now all the way down to minus one fifty,
- 12:10Speaker 2: so Stan taking quite a bit. He is four hundred
- 12:12Speaker 2: dollars cheaper. He's my preferred play in this one as well.
- 12:16Speaker 2: But with all that being said, on Monday, Gage Young
- 12:19Speaker 2: was minus one twenty three, so Stan took money to
- 12:22Speaker 2: start and then Gage has got a little buy back
- 12:25Speaker 2: since early in the week. Good, all right, we're both good,
- 12:28Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. All right, let's get to the
- 12:30Speaker 2: next fight on the card. What's going on, Jeffrey Blue,
- 12:32Speaker 2: what's going on? Bryant? What's going on? Mike Spencer? Great
- 12:35Speaker 2: to see you guys. I didn't really this last nominally
- 12:38Speaker 2: my two big underdog winning was in. That's great work.
- 12:40Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Yeah, last week was crazy. Charles Johnson
- 12:43Speaker 2: won two. Is the dog, but stolesfus as a big dog.
- 12:47Speaker 2: And then who's the other one cheating?
- 12:50Speaker 1: Well, scored right, but he killed the guard.
- 12:54Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd beat Orbi. He wasn't optimal, though Cheaty was
- 12:57Speaker 2: also optimal. So yeah, a good amount of dogs on
- 13:00Speaker 2: last week's card. All right, we will keep it rolling
- 13:04Speaker 2: to the next fights. The second biggest favorite on the
- 13:06Speaker 2: card and the second highest price we got Marcio Barbosa
- 13:11Speaker 2: taking on Ryan Ces Barbosa minus for eight fifty QS
- 13:16Speaker 2: plus five eighty six nineteen or nineteen minus fourteen hundred
- 13:22Speaker 2: for this fight to finish Barbosa minus seven hundred inside
- 13:25Speaker 2: the distance QS plus seven hundred Barbosa round one minus
- 13:29Speaker 2: one seventy five. What are your thoughts on wins versus
- 13:33Speaker 2: Barbosa if you have to choose, and then, yeah, I
- 13:35Speaker 2: guess just how much you see yourself getting at ninety
- 13:38Speaker 2: eight hundred.
- 13:39Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's a tough one. I mean, he Barbosa
- 13:42Speaker 1: is just super dangerous. He is aggressive early in fights,
- 13:45Speaker 1: and he throws mean hooks, and I think you can
- 13:47Speaker 1: knock out the majority of this division if they fight
- 13:50Speaker 1: the fight he wants to fight, and cous does look
- 13:53Speaker 1: like a striker, overall, So I do think he is
- 13:55Speaker 1: gonna wanna strike at first, but he should be the
- 13:59Speaker 1: one looking for takedown in this one. That's what would
- 14:01Speaker 1: make him more alive to win. But yeah, it's just
- 14:03Speaker 1: about in my opinion, does Barbosa score enough at ninety
- 14:06Speaker 1: eight hundred, and if he does, does he beat Wint.
- 14:09Speaker 1: I prefer win. I just think that Win is likely
- 14:13Speaker 1: to score within sixty seconds, or to win this fight
- 14:16Speaker 1: within sixty seconds, whereas Barbosa, I don't know that he
- 14:20Speaker 1: is even a bet. I would want to make at
- 14:23Speaker 1: like plus four hundred to win, and see, I don't
- 14:25Speaker 1: know what the line is, but to win within that
- 14:27Speaker 1: first minute, and I think at ninety eight hundred dollars,
- 14:31Speaker 1: you need to win in the first minute to be
- 14:33Speaker 1: on the optimal lineup. Because he's not one of those
- 14:35Speaker 1: guys who's gonna go in there and rack up twenty
- 14:37Speaker 1: takedowns and score one hundred and forty. It's all about
- 14:40Speaker 1: his first round knockout equity. And I think he gets
- 14:42Speaker 1: the knockout in the first round, but that probably puts
- 14:46Speaker 1: him at one hundred, one hundred and ten or so
- 14:49Speaker 1: points and at ninety eight hundred dollars I don't think
- 14:51Speaker 1: one hundred and ten is gonna cut it, especially if
- 14:54Speaker 1: Went scores one hundred and twenty eight. So I prefer win.
- 14:57Speaker 1: I doubt I get to Barbosa. The more lineups I make,
- 15:01Speaker 1: the more willing I am. But it would probably be
- 15:03Speaker 1: because I couldn't afford win and I had ninety eight
- 15:06Speaker 1: hundred dollars left or whatever. Uh So ye give me
- 15:08Speaker 1: Barbosa to win in the first round and just not
- 15:10Speaker 1: score enough, I'll x out cuse uh just because I
- 15:14Speaker 1: don't think I'll have enough lineups. I think with one
- 15:16Speaker 1: hundred and fifty, i'd keep him in my pool. I
- 15:19Speaker 1: do think he's more live than Vegas does. But Barbosa
- 15:22Speaker 1: is just He's just a mean looking dude, and I
- 15:26Speaker 1: think this is a fight that the UFC wants him
- 15:28Speaker 1: to win. Yeah, Barbosa is gonna knock him out, I think.
- 15:31Speaker 2: But I totally agree with you where if I'm spending anyone,
- 15:34Speaker 2: if I could choose, I think I'd just be winn
- 15:36Speaker 2: because I'm on the same page. I think the first
- 15:39Speaker 2: minute bonus is very much in play, whereas I think
- 15:42Speaker 2: it's a little it's a lot more, it's a lot harder.
- 15:45Speaker 2: I think for for Barbosa to get there, because I
- 15:48Speaker 2: don't know if he's just gonna like blast forward. I
- 15:50Speaker 2: don't think Wint is gonna worry about Chapman what he
- 15:54Speaker 2: brings on the other side one bit, whereas yeah, Qus
- 15:57Speaker 2: is a little better. I don't think Barbosa is gonna
- 15:59Speaker 2: rest if it gets outside the first minute even yet
- 16:02Speaker 2: one time, which is really good. Not sure it's enough
- 16:04Speaker 2: at ninety eight hundred, so I don't love it. I
- 16:07Speaker 2: do prefer him to Dire, though, if I have to choose,
- 16:10Speaker 2: what about you?
- 16:12Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, Dire's my least favorite pick on the entire
- 16:15Speaker 1: I mean, aside from at least read I suppose, but
- 16:17Speaker 1: I will not touch Dire. If I was playing one
- 16:19Speaker 1: hundred and fifty with and your lineups, I'm not touching
- 16:22Speaker 1: Dire fair enough.
- 16:23Speaker 2: Next fight on the card, closest line fight right now,
- 16:26Speaker 2: Nazareth hack Press Chris Padilla minus one fifteen Nazarett minus
- 16:30Speaker 2: one oh five Padilla plus one thirty five. For this
- 16:33Speaker 2: fight to finish, both fighters are plus three hundred inside
- 16:36Speaker 2: the distance, so on Monday it was plus one twenty
- 16:39Speaker 2: to finish, now plus one thirty five, so the over
- 16:42Speaker 2: has taken some money, and that leaves us at the
- 16:44Speaker 2: most likely fight to go the distance on the card,
- 16:48Speaker 2: so the closest fight. So you have to get the
- 16:51Speaker 2: pick the closest in a coin flip, then you have
- 16:53Speaker 2: to get the fight the most likely to go the
- 16:55Speaker 2: distance to be optimal. It is a mid tier fight, though,
- 16:58Speaker 2: but that is not a combination I like messing with
- 17:01Speaker 2: too much, so I'd probably cap them right around both
- 17:04Speaker 2: of their inside the distance props, which is plus three hundred. Yeah,
- 17:08Speaker 2: what is your take on this fight?
- 17:10Speaker 1: Yeah, this would be more of like an Emmy fight
- 17:13Speaker 1: for me. The more lineups I'm making, the more interested
- 17:15Speaker 1: I would be. But with a single entry or like
- 17:18Speaker 1: just handbuilding lineups, I'm not really trying to click either
- 17:21Speaker 1: one of these guys because I don't have a strong
- 17:23Speaker 1: lean either way. I am picking hack Bress because I
- 17:26Speaker 1: think he is just the more proven, the higher paced striker,
- 17:31Speaker 1: and I do think this will be mostly a striking match.
- 17:34Speaker 1: But Padilla is the more dangerous grappler, more likely wrestler
- 17:38Speaker 1: as well. He's two hundred dollars cheaper. The line is
- 17:41Speaker 1: basically a pick them, so I just don't really feel
- 17:44Speaker 1: good about making a Hack brass lineup, and then in
- 17:47Speaker 1: my mind, I'll be telling myself, man, should we just
- 17:50Speaker 1: double this up and do Padia as well? So that's
- 17:53Speaker 1: my thing that's keeping me away from it as well.
- 17:56Speaker 1: As I like that stand Door Sandoville or whatever his
- 17:59Speaker 1: name is, more than both of these guys, and probably
- 18:02Speaker 1: young as well. I like that fight in general more
- 18:04Speaker 1: than this fight. And since I think this fight plays
- 18:07Speaker 1: out on the feet, I have it going the distance
- 18:10Speaker 1: as well. I just don't think either one of them
- 18:12Speaker 1: has one hundred point potential in a decision win unless
- 18:15Speaker 1: it is a crazy high volume in the pocket type
- 18:18Speaker 1: of fight, and I just doubt that that's the case.
- 18:20Speaker 1: I think it'll be a fairly technical some volume. I mean,
- 18:24Speaker 1: they both average over six strikes per minute. I just
- 18:26Speaker 1: don't think that's what we're going to see in this matchup.
- 18:28Speaker 1: I think it'll be a more technical fight and in
- 18:31Speaker 1: a decision, I would think they're more flirting with ten X,
- 18:35Speaker 1: and I don't think ten X is gonna cut it
- 18:36Speaker 1: on this card. But give me hack Pressed as my
- 18:39Speaker 1: preferred play am I picked to win.
- 18:41Speaker 2: Yeah, this is by probably second least favorite on the
- 18:44Speaker 2: card behind Diary Reid. I don't plan on playing any
- 18:46Speaker 2: in like fifteen or less, twenty or less. I prefer
- 18:49Speaker 2: every other mid tier fight, especially after you talked the
- 18:52Speaker 2: Gage young Stand fight up a little bit. This makes
- 18:55Speaker 2: me actually like that made me like this fight even less.
- 18:58Speaker 2: And I'll get some little more exposure to that young
- 19:01Speaker 2: Stand fight. We do take it right to another mid
- 19:04Speaker 2: tier fight though that you have a five star and
- 19:07Speaker 2: it's minus four hundred. Actually it was my minus four
- 19:10Speaker 2: hundred to finish on Monday. Now it's minus three fifty
- 19:12Speaker 2: Samil Gazee minus one thirty five Kennedy, najek Wu plus
- 19:17Speaker 2: one fifteen both guys, or like I said, minus three
- 19:20Speaker 2: fifty for this fight to finish, Gazeve plus one fifteen
- 19:23Speaker 2: inside the distance, Kennedy plus one fifty five inside the
- 19:25Speaker 2: distance Gazebe round one plus two sixty five Kennedy plus
- 19:29Speaker 2: four fifty. A little now, I shouldn't say a little surprised,
- 19:33Speaker 2: but you have this as a five star, like would
- 19:36Speaker 2: you be shocked to see it be more slow paced?
- 19:40Speaker 2: Early with Kennedy worried about Gazeze's power, they tit for
- 19:44Speaker 2: tad and then second round it like picks up a
- 19:46Speaker 2: little bit and the overtaking the money little or taking
- 19:50Speaker 2: some money a little bit, not a bunch, but minus
- 19:52Speaker 2: four fifty now minus or minus four hundred now minus
- 19:56Speaker 2: three fifty. That's the only reason. Sometimes at heavyweight I
- 19:59Speaker 2: worry about that a little bit, being worried about each
- 20:01Speaker 2: other's power. But any thoughts on that, and then I
- 20:04Speaker 2: see you have Kennedy as four star versus two for shame.
- 20:09Speaker 1: See I was going back between four star and five
- 20:12Speaker 1: star on this fight. But what made me side with
- 20:15Speaker 1: five stars? I think that if gazeve wins, it's likely
- 20:20Speaker 1: in round one he'll come out, he'll throw bombs trying
- 20:23Speaker 1: to get the knockout early, and if that doesn't happen,
- 20:25Speaker 1: he'll go for a takedown. And I think round one,
- 20:27Speaker 1: if he gets a takedown, I think he could finish
- 20:29Speaker 1: Kennedy on the ground. So most of Gazevee's wins I
- 20:34Speaker 1: think are gonna score one hundred or more and at
- 20:37Speaker 1: eighty four hundred dollars, that's pretty dang good. But Kennedy
- 20:41Speaker 1: after the first, you know, opening minutes, I think gazeve
- 20:44Speaker 1: is likely to slow down, and I think Kennedy can
- 20:47Speaker 1: go a hard three rounds and the longer it goes
- 20:50Speaker 1: the more. I like Kennedy, but I just don't think
- 20:52Speaker 1: it's gonna go the distance. I think he would finish
- 20:54Speaker 1: Gazeve at some point, and even in the second round
- 20:57Speaker 1: as an underdog, I'm absolutely cool withy get in the
- 21:00Speaker 1: second round finish. So even if he loses the first
- 21:03Speaker 1: and gets kind of dominated, I feel like we're probably
- 21:06Speaker 1: gonna get a knockout in a knockdown along the way
- 21:09Speaker 1: in that second round. So at seventy eight hundred dollars,
- 21:12Speaker 1: I'm cool with it. I think the price is what
- 21:14Speaker 1: justified the five stars for me, and this would be
- 21:17Speaker 1: a mid range that I would really want to target
- 21:19Speaker 1: because I think both sides have ninety plus upside. It
- 21:22Speaker 1: could be a Kennedy first round knockout, or even if
- 21:25Speaker 1: Gazieve slows down, I think Kennedy could really put it
- 21:28Speaker 1: on him and just dominate him on the feet with volume,
- 21:31Speaker 1: along with the knockdown and knockout as well. So I
- 21:33Speaker 1: just think this is a fight I want to target
- 21:35Speaker 1: either side of. But I think it's gonna last more
- 21:39Speaker 1: than the one round. Maybe, I mean, the longer it goes,
- 21:42Speaker 1: the less. I like Gazee, so that's why I picked
- 21:44Speaker 1: Kennedy as my pick to win, my preferred play. And
- 21:48Speaker 1: if I'm gonna try and get to a ninety nine
- 21:50Speaker 1: hundred or ninety eight hundred dollars, I'm gonna have to
- 21:53Speaker 1: be shoving some underdogs in there, and Kennedy would be
- 21:56Speaker 1: my guy.
- 21:57Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. I'm picking Kennedy a win too.
- 21:59Speaker 2: Just think he has more pass to win if the
- 22:02Speaker 2: longer the fight goes, the more it benefits him. Has
- 22:04Speaker 2: a pretty big reach advantage. Shamil definitely has the more
- 22:08Speaker 2: round one power and very well just could flatline Kennedy.
- 22:12Speaker 2: Didn't like Kennedy losing the osp But I think Kennedy
- 22:15Speaker 2: the speed advantage, the length advantage, and I think he
- 22:18Speaker 2: can find a way to win for six hundred cheaper
- 22:21Speaker 2: and it is fine in my opinion, going gaze, taking
- 22:24Speaker 2: gazebe out going Kennedy and leaving six hundred plus in
- 22:27Speaker 2: chock your lineups. All right, excuse me before we go
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- 23:30Speaker 2: we have Leran Douglas taking on Jamal Emmers. Douglas minus
- 23:36Speaker 2: three eighty Emers plus three zero three. This fight is
- 23:40Speaker 2: minus four hundred to finish Douglas minus two to fifty
- 23:43Speaker 2: inside the distance Emers plus five twenty five Douglas round
- 23:47Speaker 2: one minus one twenty five and that's a lot of
- 23:50Speaker 2: line movement. His run one prop was plus one twenty
- 23:52Speaker 2: five at open, now minus one twenty five. Yeah, sign
- 23:56Speaker 2: me up for some Douglas ninety three hundred I think
- 24:00Speaker 2: is too cheap. You can plug in any of these guys.
- 24:02Speaker 2: Dire Barbosa even wins. I think if went, I mean
- 24:07Speaker 2: win doesn't, isn't guaranteed to get the first minute bonus.
- 24:10Speaker 2: If he doesn't, I think Douglas has just as much upside.
- 24:13Speaker 2: So yeah, I think he's a phenomenal, phenomenal play and
- 24:16Speaker 2: with his ownership, I think probably being elevated. I don't
- 24:19Speaker 2: hate Jamal Emers as well. He's a talented fighter. He'll
- 24:24Speaker 2: compete minutes to minute, So yeah, I might on both
- 24:26Speaker 2: sides of this one.
- 24:28Speaker 1: Absolutely. It is one of my favorite fights to target.
- 24:30Speaker 1: I think almost all the first round equity is on
- 24:33Speaker 1: the Douglas side. He is an aggressive striker, He's going
- 24:37Speaker 1: to be trying to knock Himer's head off, and Emmers
- 24:40Speaker 1: does have a questionable chin. Plus he's like he's thirty
- 24:43Speaker 1: seven years old, getting up there in age, taking damage
- 24:46Speaker 1: over his career, So I think if this fight's playing
- 24:49Speaker 1: out on the feet, Emmer's gonna get knocked out, and
- 24:51Speaker 1: I think minus one twenty five. I think there's value
- 24:54Speaker 1: in that round one prop for Douglas because I do
- 24:56Speaker 1: think it's going to be a first round knockout. What
- 24:59Speaker 1: would stop it from being a first round knockout would
- 25:01Speaker 1: be Emmer's wrestling ability. And if he does get Douglas
- 25:06Speaker 1: out of the first round because he wrestles him, I
- 25:08Speaker 1: think he's likely to wrestle him in the second as well,
- 25:11Speaker 1: and also in the third. And Emers has one hundred
- 25:14Speaker 1: and twenty point upside at sixty nine hundred dollars, So
- 25:18Speaker 1: he's my favorite punt on the card. But give me
- 25:22Speaker 1: Douglas to knock him out in the first couple minutes
- 25:24Speaker 1: of this fight. I just think he's going to be aggressive,
- 25:26Speaker 1: hunting for that knockout. And again, I think the UFC
- 25:29Speaker 1: probably wants Douglas to get that knockout as well. They
- 25:32Speaker 1: gave him a rosa in his first matchup super questionable Chin.
- 25:36Speaker 1: Now he's got a tougher match up here, but same
- 25:38Speaker 1: path to victory, same same issue for the opponent. I
- 25:42Speaker 1: think the UFC wants Douglas to get that first round knockout.
- 25:46Speaker 2: Yeah, you said it, great, but I do think Emers
- 25:48Speaker 2: is an elite play at lower ownership, at good leverage,
- 25:51Speaker 2: with a lot of upside. You can see on the
- 25:53Speaker 2: stone five point one significance rikes per minute, two point
- 25:56Speaker 2: five to nine takedowns per fifteen for Emers. All right,
- 26:00Speaker 2: let's get to the biggest favorite on the card and
- 26:02Speaker 2: the highest priced. That is Anthony Went minus one thousand
- 26:07Speaker 2: taken on Terrence Chapman plus six sixty one. This fight
- 26:12Speaker 2: is minus one thousand to finish win, minus eight to
- 26:15Speaker 2: fifty inside the distance Chapman plus one thousand went in
- 26:19Speaker 2: round one minus two fifty open minus two fifteen. We
- 26:23Speaker 2: already kind of talked about it, like we think he
- 26:25Speaker 2: has legit sixty second knockout potential. With that being said,
- 26:31Speaker 2: I think there's pass where he gets that and still
- 26:33Speaker 2: is an optimal scoring one hundred and twenty eight. And
- 26:36Speaker 2: when that's when that's the case, it always makes it
- 26:38Speaker 2: more difficult. With that being said, if I knew he'd
- 26:41Speaker 2: get a first minute bonus, I'd still probably want at
- 26:44Speaker 2: least fifty percent. So I don't see myself playing fifty percent.
- 26:48Speaker 2: I don't think he's minus or plus plus one hundred
- 26:52Speaker 2: or whatever to get a finish or in the first
- 26:55Speaker 2: sixty seconds I think is you might be able to
- 26:57Speaker 2: find that prop Actually I think you found it before.
- 26:59Speaker 2: But what I put sixty seconds that plus three hundred
- 27:04Speaker 2: plus two fifty, what would you put it at.
- 27:09Speaker 1: I would imagine that's closer to what it is. I
- 27:11Speaker 1: think he's gonna it's like personally, I would make it
- 27:14Speaker 1: pluck closer to plus two hundred because he has four
- 27:18Speaker 1: wins within the first forty five seconds of fights. And
- 27:22Speaker 1: on the Chapman side, I mean really the only thing
- 27:24Speaker 1: that impressed me about Chapman was I thought he had
- 27:26Speaker 1: pretty good leg kicks. So if Winn doesn't want to
- 27:29Speaker 1: get kicked in his leg, just pressure him right away,
- 27:32Speaker 1: and went is dangerous when this guy has all the power,
- 27:35Speaker 1: all the muscle, and if he doesn't want to just
- 27:37Speaker 1: go in throwing hands, he could go in and take
- 27:39Speaker 1: Chapman down and get a ground and pound knockout within
- 27:42Speaker 1: the first sixty seconds as well. He's just imposing, powerful,
- 27:47Speaker 1: big and they're throwing him in like a week after
- 27:50Speaker 1: he had the Dana Whites Contender Series fight, which he
- 27:52Speaker 1: won in the first sixty seconds, So I feel like
- 27:55Speaker 1: the UFC wants him to do the exact same thing.
- 27:57Speaker 1: You go out there, get a win in the first
- 28:00Speaker 1: sixty seconds, and you got a name right away. So
- 28:02Speaker 1: I think he's actually very likely to win in the
- 28:05Speaker 1: first sixty seconds of this fight. But I also don't
- 28:07Speaker 1: know that we're completely dead if he doesn't, because he
- 28:09Speaker 1: is a good wrestler, and I think he could maybe
- 28:12Speaker 1: land a knock knock down takedowns and then just have
- 28:16Speaker 1: some serious ground and pound. I don't know that Chapman
- 28:18Speaker 1: can can can withstand all of that ground and pound
- 28:22Speaker 1: for it to be just climbing up the numbers. So
- 28:25Speaker 1: we probably at ninety nine hundred dollars, I would imagine
- 28:27Speaker 1: need the quick win. But he just has the type
- 28:30Speaker 1: of game where he could dominate the fight on the
- 28:33Speaker 1: ground as well, and that's that scores well. So I
- 28:36Speaker 1: like win. I don't like ninety nine hundred dollars. I
- 28:39Speaker 1: think Douglas is just so much more affordable. That's why
- 28:43Speaker 1: I put this fight as a three star and the
- 28:45Speaker 1: other one is a five star. And you also don't
- 28:47Speaker 1: have to hunt for as many underdogs if you're playing Douglas.
- 28:50Speaker 1: So if you can afford win, go for it. Get
- 28:52Speaker 1: all you can afford. I'm gonna ex Chapman out of
- 28:55Speaker 1: my lineups for sure, But ninety nine hundred dollars is
- 28:58Speaker 1: I mean, we've only seen that a couple of times,
- 29:00Speaker 1: and I doubt it ended up on the optimal Well,
- 29:03Speaker 1: if you were playing seventy so much, whin do you
- 29:06Speaker 1: think you'd have? If I was playing one hundred and
- 29:09Speaker 1: fifty seventy five seventy five, I would imagine like over
- 29:18Speaker 1: thirty percent, but I'd probably want to cap it around fifty,
- 29:25Speaker 1: no more than sixty percent, because you're just you really
- 29:28Speaker 1: need your underdogs to come through, and I like a
- 29:30Speaker 1: handful of underdogs on this card. I think a lot
- 29:32Speaker 1: of them have have high possible scores too. But ninety
- 29:39Speaker 1: nine hundred, even if he get like you mentioned, even
- 29:41Speaker 1: if he gets that quick win bonus, it's not guaranteed
- 29:43Speaker 1: to be on there, which I at most other prices
- 29:46Speaker 1: you would be. So I'm not sure, man, I need
- 29:49Speaker 1: to start. I need to mess with my lineup tonight, obviously,
- 29:51Speaker 1: because I'm not going to be able to do it tomorrow,
- 29:52Speaker 1: so I'll know more if you guys want to hit
- 29:55Speaker 1: me up in discord, But I think my I'm probably
- 29:58Speaker 1: gonna be handbuilding. So my my path with handbuilding will
- 30:02Speaker 1: be like, all right, let's start this lineup with Win,
- 30:05Speaker 1: see what we can do, and if it just isn't possible,
- 30:07Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut Win out. It'll go down to Douglas
- 30:10Speaker 1: and I feel like I'll like the lineup very similar.
- 30:13Speaker 1: So I don't think he's a must have, but I
- 30:15Speaker 1: also I feel like he is the like first or
- 30:19Speaker 1: second most likely that we've ever talked about on this
- 30:22Speaker 1: show to win in the first sixty seconds.
- 30:24Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. It's a lot of praise, but
- 30:27Speaker 2: I think it mainly shows just how bad Chapman might
- 30:30Speaker 2: be as well. Derek is kind of talking about that
- 30:33Speaker 2: as well. That made me laugh. What's going on? G Fighter?
- 30:37Speaker 2: Great to see you all right, five fights left ins
- 30:40Speaker 2: you can. As you can see on the stone, Big
- 30:42Speaker 2: Marley does not have too much interest in the next couple.
- 30:45Speaker 2: Carly judisze minus six twenty five just a lot, Chaves
- 30:49Speaker 2: plus four fifty minus one ten for this fight to finish,
- 30:52Speaker 2: Judea's plus one ten inside the distance, Chavez plus eight
- 30:55Speaker 2: to fifty Judicse round one plus three twenty five open
- 31:00Speaker 2: plus three fifty. I don't know. I mean plus three
- 31:03Speaker 2: twenty five is twenty three and a half percent in
- 31:06Speaker 2: round one. Taking a look at our projected ownership right now,
- 31:09Speaker 2: it's not out yet, but I will say we have
- 31:12Speaker 2: Judee decent bit under that number for her run one prop.
- 31:16Speaker 2: I don't hate it. I mean I think I'd rather
- 31:18Speaker 2: play Judice than I would rather play Judas than die here.
- 31:22Speaker 2: I think I'd rather play Judaicse than Barbosa. And I
- 31:25Speaker 2: might even rather play Judice than Win, because that is
- 31:28Speaker 2: a significant five hundred dollars price difference. I'm not saying
- 31:31Speaker 2: plug and win, drop to Judice and make or beat
- 31:34Speaker 2: him one on one, but play Judase and leave three
- 31:37Speaker 2: hundred or something I think is more reasonable. And yeah,
- 31:41Speaker 2: I mean she can throw volume. Look at that on
- 31:43Speaker 2: the stone, So Judicse, my preferred play doesn't look like
- 31:49Speaker 2: you love it much. I probably like it more than you.
- 31:51Speaker 2: I'm not sure about the Java side. I'll let you
- 31:53Speaker 2: talk about this one.
- 31:55Speaker 1: Yeah, the ninety four hundred dollars is what's taken me
- 31:58Speaker 1: away from Judasa. I like win more. I would try
- 32:01Speaker 1: to find five hundred dollars to get to win, definitely
- 32:04Speaker 1: like Judy's more than dire. I think Barbosa is kind
- 32:07Speaker 1: of even for me. Uh but uh Chavez. I mean,
- 32:12Speaker 1: she's really didn't impress me. I think she's gonna be
- 32:14Speaker 1: a lot slower. Maybe she's got a little bit of power.
- 32:16Speaker 1: She could possibly test judy'e's chin, but I think more
- 32:19Speaker 1: likely she should look to wrestle in this matchup. I
- 32:23Speaker 1: just don't think that she can really dictate over the
- 32:25Speaker 1: course of three rounds where those fight's gonna play take place.
- 32:28Speaker 1: And I think Judice probably doubles or triples are up
- 32:31Speaker 1: on volume, and maybe that volume adds up and puts
- 32:34Speaker 1: Chavez away. That's probably what we need. I just don't
- 32:38Speaker 1: think Judice will have enough volume to have any real
- 32:42Speaker 1: chance at being on the optimal lineup in a decision.
- 32:44Speaker 1: So it's really like we're targeting her first or a
- 32:47Speaker 1: second round knockout from one hundred and twenty five pound woman.
- 32:51Speaker 1: I mean, she's gotten them before, but I just don't
- 32:53Speaker 1: want to keep relying on that. So I would rather
- 32:55Speaker 1: pay one hundred less for Douglas, and that's gonna take
- 32:58Speaker 1: away from my Judy's exposure right there. So I don't
- 33:01Speaker 1: think I'm gonna get so much of this fight. But
- 33:04Speaker 1: I don't think Judy's will have too much ownership. And
- 33:07Speaker 1: the more lineups I make, the more interested I would
- 33:09Speaker 1: be be just to be a little bit contrary, and
- 33:11Speaker 1: I think there are enough underdogs for me to afford
- 33:14Speaker 1: a Jude's and a Douglas lineup. I just I just
- 33:19Speaker 1: don't like paying ninety four hundred dollars for I bet
- 33:21Speaker 1: she does score close to ninety points. But do you
- 33:25Speaker 1: think do you think if she gets ninety four you
- 33:27Speaker 1: think that has a chance of the optima?
- 33:29Speaker 2: No? No, but I think there's past she gets a
- 33:33Speaker 2: one o eight or one o nine at fifteen percent. Especially,
- 33:37Speaker 2: I just when I'm playing the main event, when I'm
- 33:39Speaker 2: playing McVay Schultz, and then maybe I want to play
- 33:42Speaker 2: Gazevee Kennedy. It's like I'll shoot now, I'm playing the
- 33:45Speaker 2: three chalkiest fights on the card. All right, I'll play
- 33:47Speaker 2: Judee at fifteen percent as a minus six fifty favorite.
- 33:52Speaker 2: That's twenty three percent or whatever to win in round one.
- 33:56Speaker 2: Like I you see, right what you didn't think Chavez
- 33:58Speaker 2: was any good at least throws volume. Maybe Chavez gets
- 34:02Speaker 2: back up and Jude's drops her again. I don't know.
- 34:05Speaker 2: I'm taking a chance at ninety four hundred.
- 34:07Speaker 1: But yeah, i'd be cool. I would say, with a
- 34:09Speaker 1: single entry, I won't have Jud's. But the more lineups
- 34:11Speaker 1: I make, the more I could be interested.
- 34:14Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense for sure. All right, let's get
- 34:17Speaker 2: to the next fight. Anytime I see Mason Jones, I
- 34:20Speaker 2: get very excited. He's minus three hundred taking on MARKL.
- 34:22Speaker 2: Maderos plus two forty five plus one thirty for this
- 34:25Speaker 2: fight to finish, Mason Jones plus one eighty five inside
- 34:29Speaker 2: the distance, Madero's plus five twenty five Mason Jones round
- 34:34Speaker 2: one plus five hundred. Not the best round one prop.
- 34:38Speaker 2: But man, I love Mason Jones, so'll fight for your dollar.
- 34:41Speaker 2: He can strike, he can wrestle. His inside of this
- 34:44Speaker 2: is prop has moved. The decent bit was plus some
- 34:46Speaker 2: one ninety at open, got down to plus one sixty five.
- 34:49Speaker 2: Now back up to plus one eighty five. I'll let
- 34:52Speaker 2: you take it away. I see a two star fight
- 34:54Speaker 2: for this one.
- 34:55Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I should move it to a three star
- 34:57Speaker 1: because I think you can make a case for both guys.
- 35:00Speaker 1: I do love the volume in the pace from Jones.
- 35:03Speaker 1: I think he's the more well rounded fighter. The guy
- 35:05Speaker 1: who's more likely to look for takedowns and land takedowns
- 35:09Speaker 1: in this fight. But we need at nine K. We
- 35:12Speaker 1: need him to be wrestling here because I think it's
- 35:15Speaker 1: almost a toss up on the feet. I think Maderos
- 35:18Speaker 1: is the more technical striker in this one, and if
- 35:21Speaker 1: it is a striking match, I think Maderos is just
- 35:23Speaker 1: live to actually win the fight and he could knock
- 35:25Speaker 1: Jones out. So that's the case to play Maderos. But
- 35:29Speaker 1: Jones has landed eight takedowns in at least two of
- 35:32Speaker 1: his UFC fights. Yeah, two of his UFC fights. He
- 35:36Speaker 1: scored one seventeen and one twenty six in those two fights.
- 35:40Speaker 1: I mean, give me those scores all day long. I
- 35:43Speaker 1: just don't think that Madaro's is going to be that
- 35:45Speaker 1: easy to take down. I don't think he'll he'll take
- 35:47Speaker 1: eight takedowns. I think he will have a better chance
- 35:51Speaker 1: of stuffing him, and I also think he'll have a
- 35:53Speaker 1: better chance of drawing Jones into a striking match, which
- 35:57Speaker 1: is what takes away from the Jones points. I don't
- 36:00Speaker 1: think Jones has any real chance at the optimal in
- 36:03Speaker 1: a striking in a striking match, unless it's an early
- 36:07Speaker 1: knockout and I think the early knockout potential would be
- 36:10Speaker 1: on more so on the Madero side, just because I
- 36:12Speaker 1: think he's the cleaner fighter and the aggressiveness from Jones
- 36:15Speaker 1: could work against him. But two stars might be a
- 36:18Speaker 1: little bit too low for a guy with the with
- 36:22Speaker 1: just the pace alone that Jones can bring, and he
- 36:24Speaker 1: will mix in takedown, so I probably do need to
- 36:26Speaker 1: up star, but Jones is my preferred plage just because
- 36:30Speaker 1: of that wrestling potential on picking him to win because
- 36:32Speaker 1: he has more ways to win. But on the feet, man,
- 36:35Speaker 1: this is more of a pick and fight.
- 36:38Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree with everything you said. That's why
- 36:40Speaker 2: I'm gonna play some Maderos. I don't love his upside
- 36:44Speaker 2: because I think he's gonna have to be fighting off takedowns.
- 36:46Speaker 2: But the line's going to be too wide if it's
- 36:49Speaker 2: just on the feet. But that also does not like
- 36:50Speaker 2: me like It makes me like Mason Jones even more
- 36:53Speaker 2: since I think it does force him to wrestle. That's
- 36:56Speaker 2: where he really unlocks. His upside was minus two sixty
- 36:59Speaker 2: five on Monday. Now he's minus three hundred, so he's
- 37:02Speaker 2: taking some money good inside the distance prop pushes the
- 37:05Speaker 2: pace nine k's a good price tag. I can plug
- 37:08Speaker 2: in Jude's drop Judis go, Mason Jones leave four hundred.
- 37:12Speaker 2: I do like Mason Jones quite a bit. Again, I
- 37:14Speaker 2: don't love Madero's upside, but when he wins, he is
- 37:17Speaker 2: live for a KO I think is inside the distance
- 37:19Speaker 2: prop a little disrespectful. Jones has a great chin, but
- 37:23Speaker 2: it's been hit a lot and Madero's does hit hard.
- 37:25Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm excited for this one. I think this
- 37:27Speaker 2: is a good real life fight. I don't think it
- 37:30Speaker 2: gets too much ownership for DFS, and I very well
- 37:33Speaker 2: might be overweight. What's up, Mitaos, Good to see you
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- 38:20Speaker 1: Three fights left the butt in real quick. I looked
- 38:24Speaker 1: up the went first round finish and it's for the
- 38:26Speaker 1: fight in general, not just Wint, but plus three point fifty,
- 38:30Speaker 1: which is the lowest I've seen, but still higher than
- 38:33Speaker 1: I think it should be.
- 38:34Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. Odds, dire, Barbosa, and Win all
- 38:41Speaker 2: missed the optimal, all of them.
- 38:47Speaker 1: Man, it's hard to set odds on that. I'd say
- 38:49Speaker 1: at least two. I'm not sure. I'd like to hear
- 38:51Speaker 1: sheets answer that.
- 38:52Speaker 2: I would say, like fifty to fifty. Wow, I mean
- 38:57Speaker 2: ninety seven, ninety eight, ninety nine just betting and not
- 39:00Speaker 2: the fully upper tier getting there in a thirteen fight.
- 39:02Speaker 2: I think at fifty to fifty.
- 39:04Speaker 1: Oh yeah, For some reason I thought Judas was in
- 39:06Speaker 1: there as well. Yeah, yeah, more likely with just the three.
- 39:09Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Three fights left. Renee de Ritter minus
- 39:13Speaker 2: four hundred taking on Roman de Leeds a plus three
- 39:16Speaker 2: sixteen minus won twenty for this fight to finish the
- 39:18Speaker 2: leads a plus one fifty inside the distance or Derittter
- 39:22Speaker 2: plus one fifty inside the distance to leads a plus
- 39:26Speaker 2: four hundred. Deleeds is such a boring fighter in the
- 39:30Speaker 2: sense of DFS and now he never pushes the pace,
- 39:33Speaker 2: so that limits my interest at seven k But de
- 39:35Speaker 2: Ritter at ninety two hundred just a style alone, wanting
- 39:38Speaker 2: to wrestle and grapple, be able to be on top reversals,
- 39:43Speaker 2: good knees in the clintch like I'm gonna play something
- 39:45Speaker 2: ninety two hundred just because of his style. I don't
- 39:47Speaker 2: know if de Leeds a just being so boring yet
- 39:50Speaker 2: still dangerous in with his power, with his grappling, if
- 39:54Speaker 2: it just makes his fight super super boring. But I'm
- 39:57Speaker 2: going to take a chance under Ritter just the sheer
- 39:59Speaker 2: nature sure of his wrestling style. I don't Lovedaliitse. What
- 40:03Speaker 2: do you think in this one? Yeah?
- 40:05Speaker 1: Same? I think Delize is live for a knockout. He
- 40:09Speaker 1: is the better striker, just much more powerful. He's probably
- 40:11Speaker 1: the most powerful striker that De Rider has had to face,
- 40:14Speaker 1: at least in the UFC, so I think the knockout
- 40:16Speaker 1: is definitely live really in any round, but especially early,
- 40:21Speaker 1: and if it's early at seven k you're gonna need him.
- 40:23Speaker 1: But yeah, my preferred play is already r in this one.
- 40:26Speaker 1: I think his grappling edge is just it's really enough
- 40:30Speaker 1: to justify the minus four hundred dollars line. He is
- 40:32Speaker 1: so much better than Delise wants to fight hits the ground.
- 40:35Speaker 1: I just don't think Delise has any chance. I think
- 40:37Speaker 1: it's either a submission or de Ridder does what he
- 40:40Speaker 1: wants in top control. Uh, but yeah, give me the
- 40:42Speaker 1: Ridder is my preferred play in this one. It's one
- 40:45Speaker 1: where I'd be playing both sides the more lineups I make,
- 40:48Speaker 1: But with my handbuilds, I would much more likely to
- 40:50Speaker 1: start a lineup with the Ridder see what I can
- 40:53Speaker 1: do with it. And I'm really not trying to even
- 40:54Speaker 1: click on Delise in a handbuilt, single entry type of lineup.
- 40:58Speaker 1: I'd rather go down to Emmers if I don't have
- 41:05Speaker 1: larry On in my lineup at least, But I think
- 41:07Speaker 1: both sides are playable, especially the moral lineups you make.
- 41:10Speaker 1: The Ritter is just gonna have to either dominate on
- 41:13Speaker 1: the ground or get that first round finish at ninety
- 41:15Speaker 1: two hundred dollars for him to score enough points and
- 41:19Speaker 1: beat out all these other high scoring guys.
- 41:22Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like this fight too much. I'll play
- 41:25Speaker 2: some DeRidder. The Leeds just makes the fight so boring.
- 41:29Speaker 2: Hopefully DeRidder dominates. I'll probably be around the field, but
- 41:32Speaker 2: not a fight that I want to get a bunch
- 41:34Speaker 2: of exposure to. This fight, though very good one or
- 41:37Speaker 2: very solid. In the mid tier, we're back to the
- 41:40Speaker 2: heavyweights minus one forty two Vitor Patrino plus one twenty
- 41:44Speaker 2: two Serge Skivak minus one sixty for this fight to
- 41:47Speaker 2: finish Patrino plus one forty inside the distance Spevak plus
- 41:50Speaker 2: two sixty five. I'm guessing you prefer uh Gazeve Kennedy
- 41:56Speaker 2: fight in the mid tier more than this one, as
- 41:58Speaker 2: you have that five star in this or star Is
- 42:00Speaker 2: that safe to say and then break this one down?
- 42:03Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, as as a whole, I would say that
- 42:06Speaker 1: that's the case because I think that Patrino's really ceiling
- 42:10Speaker 1: is a first round knockout, and Gazeve has that same potential,
- 42:13Speaker 1: but he also has the wrestling potential as well, So
- 42:16Speaker 1: I just think that's the better fight to target. But
- 42:19Speaker 1: this is more of a binary fight where if it's
- 42:22Speaker 1: on the feet, I really like Patrino to win and
- 42:24Speaker 1: probably get a knockout at some point. But as a
- 42:27Speaker 1: seventy seven hundred dollars underdog, Spivak has one hundred and
- 42:30Speaker 1: ten plus one hundred and twenty point upside. He could
- 42:34Speaker 1: just completely dominate the fight on the ground.
- 42:37Speaker 2: Uh.
- 42:37Speaker 1: My issue with him is just we haven't really seen
- 42:39Speaker 1: that from him. He's been more willing to stand. He
- 42:41Speaker 1: hasn't landed multiple takedowns like he in his last one, two, three,
- 42:48Speaker 1: four five fights. He only has five takedowns. I mean
- 42:52Speaker 1: that that's just not gonna cut it if you're gonna
- 42:54Speaker 1: be going for one or two takedowns against a guy
- 42:57Speaker 1: like Patrino, who I really don't think Spivak has a
- 42:59Speaker 1: chance to beat on the feet. I just think it's
- 43:02Speaker 1: a good fight to target because first round knockout equity
- 43:05Speaker 1: on the Patrino side or almost anywin from the Spivac
- 43:10Speaker 1: side is fine. I just think that Patrino is going
- 43:13Speaker 1: to get the knockout at some point. Eighty five hundred
- 43:16Speaker 1: dollars I'm fine with to be in the first or
- 43:18Speaker 1: the second round. I don't think we can handle any
- 43:21Speaker 1: real Spivac round winning and then a Patrino knockout. It's
- 43:24Speaker 1: probably too late by that point. But Patrino is just
- 43:28Speaker 1: one of those scary looking strikers that I just wouldn't
- 43:30Speaker 1: want to be in front of, and I don't think
- 43:32Speaker 1: Spivak will want to be in front of either. So
- 43:33Speaker 1: give me Petrino get the knockout.
- 43:36Speaker 2: I'm on the Speedbox side for my preferred play. As
- 43:39Speaker 2: you can see, Monday, it was minus one seventy five Patrino.
- 43:42Speaker 2: Now it's only minus one forty two, eight hundred dollars
- 43:45Speaker 2: price different, Speedboc taking money throughout the week. If someone
- 43:49Speaker 2: does wrestle, I think it is on the Speedbox side.
- 43:51Speaker 2: His jab was actually good last fight, relatively surprising. Yeah,
- 43:56Speaker 2: I just prefer the savings with speedboc and what it
- 43:59Speaker 2: gets me. But I think Petrino's fine. I do prefer
- 44:02Speaker 2: Kennedy Gazebe if having to choose one fight between those
- 44:06Speaker 2: two as well. All right, let's get to the final
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- 46:00Speaker 2: I'm very excited for this one. Definitely. Whatever we're doing,
- 46:03Speaker 2: Big Marley, we cannot miss this fight. It's Anthony Fluffi
- 46:06Speaker 2: or Nandez minus one eighty five Greg Rodriguez plus one
- 46:09Speaker 2: sixty one minus three twenty five for this fight to finish.
- 46:12Speaker 2: Fluffy plus one ten inside the distance Rodriguez plus one
- 46:16Speaker 2: seventy five. Fluffy's just one of the DFS goats. Wasn't
- 46:20Speaker 2: good for him last fight. He didn't shoot takedowns against Strickland.
- 46:23Speaker 2: I don't know what you're doing. You better shoot him
- 46:25Speaker 2: in this one. Others, I think it's gonna be the
- 46:27Speaker 2: same results. Do you think he gets back on track.
- 46:31Speaker 1: I'm picking Rodriguez to win, but I put three and
- 46:35Speaker 1: three on this one because I just can't count out Hernandez.
- 46:39Speaker 1: And Hernandez scored one hundred and ninety two points in
- 46:42Speaker 1: one single fight. There's no other person on this card
- 46:46Speaker 1: that can do that. Rodriguez can't do that. Rodriguez really
- 46:49Speaker 1: can't even score more than like one hundred and twenty
- 46:52Speaker 1: seven or so, and that would just include a first
- 46:54Speaker 1: minute knockout. But if Hernandez can't constantly land takedowns and
- 47:01Speaker 1: just wear out Rodriguez, I think he's gonna get knocked
- 47:04Speaker 1: out on the feet. I think it's not really a
- 47:06Speaker 1: binary fight. I think Hernandez can hang for a little
- 47:09Speaker 1: while or even not get knocked out early. And then
- 47:12Speaker 1: the longer it goes, the more Rodriguez is gonna start
- 47:15Speaker 1: to fade, and the more Hernandez will start to pick
- 47:17Speaker 1: it up. But I just think he's gonna be in
- 47:19Speaker 1: trouble in a striking match. And Rodriguez is a really
- 47:22Speaker 1: good grappler. He's dangerous with submissions. He's a good wrestler himself.
- 47:26Speaker 1: He's definitely stronger than Hernandez, So if he can shuck
- 47:29Speaker 1: off the first couple of takedowns, Hernandez might turn into
- 47:32Speaker 1: the same guy he was in that Strickland fight and
- 47:35Speaker 1: just accept a striking match, and I don't think that'll
- 47:37Speaker 1: go well for him. I like Rodriguez to get a
- 47:40Speaker 1: first round knockout, possibly a second round knockout, and if
- 47:44Speaker 1: he doesn't get it into the first or the second,
- 47:46Speaker 1: I think the chances of him winning just start to
- 47:48Speaker 1: go down and down, and Hernandez is going to start
- 47:50Speaker 1: to dominate the fight. Land takedowns easier, do what he
- 47:54Speaker 1: wants in top control, probably submit Rodriguez at some point.
- 47:57Speaker 1: So I just think it's a fight we have to
- 47:59Speaker 1: target for A second round knockout from Rodriguez is on
- 48:02Speaker 1: the optimal lineup, and I think any win from Hernandez
- 48:06Speaker 1: is likely on the optimal lineup. This guy has scored
- 48:08Speaker 1: one hundred and forty one, one hundred and ninety two,
- 48:11Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen, one hundred and twenty, one hundred
- 48:13Speaker 1: and seventeen, one hundred and thirty four. Like that's top
- 48:17Speaker 1: top status in DFS right there. So the more lineups
- 48:20Speaker 1: I make, the more I'm gonna start making Hernandez lineups.
- 48:23Speaker 1: But since I'm picking Rodriguez to win the first lineup
- 48:26Speaker 1: I make, I'm gonna have Rodriguez in. I'm gonna start
- 48:29Speaker 1: that lineup. We'll see where it goes with win. But
- 48:31Speaker 1: I'm sure Rodriguez is the next name I'm clicking on,
- 48:34Speaker 1: and then we'll see where it goes from there. But
- 48:35Speaker 1: this is the fight I'm gonna make sure is in
- 48:38Speaker 1: every single hand built lineup that I create. I think
- 48:40Speaker 1: we would need almost like a no contest or uh
- 48:46Speaker 1: maybe a second round Hernandez submission possibly doesn't get you there,
- 48:51Speaker 1: as long as he's not laying in freaking five six
- 48:53Speaker 1: takedowns before that. I just think it's it's rare for
- 48:57Speaker 1: this fight not to be on the optimal, So I'll
- 48:59Speaker 1: be all over this one. It's my favorite fight to target.
- 49:02Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch it. I hope that we
- 49:04Speaker 1: have a sweat going into it. But yeah, give me Rodriguez.
- 49:07Speaker 1: I will say that I don't think I've ever picked
- 49:09Speaker 1: against Rodriguez though, so there is some bias there, but
- 49:12Speaker 1: I just think he is the real full package, aside
- 49:15Speaker 1: from a questionable Chin, which I'm not too worried about here,
- 49:18Speaker 1: and questionable Cardio, which in five rounds I am worried about.
- 49:23Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm picking Fuffy because I've never picked or I
- 49:26Speaker 2: picked Herdolpho, and I think ever since then I have
- 49:29Speaker 2: it's his pace, everything he puts on. I'm worried though that.
- 49:32Speaker 2: My confidence is not high, There's no doubt about that,
- 49:34Speaker 2: and I plan to be pretty even in terms of dfs.
- 49:37Speaker 2: If Craigor wins, it's hard for him not to be
- 49:39Speaker 2: optimal at seventy six hundred, and it opens a lot up.
- 49:43Speaker 2: I think this and the McVay Schultz fight price right
- 49:46Speaker 2: next to each other, is definitely the best fights to
- 49:48Speaker 2: target on this card. But yeah, I do know it's
- 49:51Speaker 2: going to be pretty chalky when you plug this fight in,
- 49:53Speaker 2: when you then go big Vay Schultz fight and then
- 49:55Speaker 2: you play wins or Gazeve Kennedy, you got to get
- 49:59Speaker 2: different in some other spots. That's why we do have
- 50:02Speaker 2: projections and ownership always posted. It's very important in the sports.
- 50:06Speaker 2: We've talked about that in the More Education MMA, Big
- 50:11Speaker 2: Marley and I talked for over an hour and a half. Yeah,
- 50:14Speaker 2: ownership matters everything on the stone. You can see all
- 50:17Speaker 2: the write ups will be up at the slate station.
- 50:20Speaker 2: I already showed out the Stone two point zero to
- 50:23Speaker 2: start virtually handbuilding some teams again, projections, ownership, everything you
- 50:28Speaker 2: need for dfs. Definitely do get in the discord if
- 50:31Speaker 2: you do join Big Marley. Any final thoughts for.
- 50:34Speaker 1: You now, man, I hope it's a good successful card.
- 50:37Speaker 1: I can't wait to sweat it in Vegas with you.
- 50:39Speaker 2: If you guys are.
- 50:40Speaker 1: Gonna be out there, hit us up. Hopefully we'll be
- 50:42Speaker 1: at Circus the swim what's it called swim Stadium?
- 50:48Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right.
- 50:49Speaker 1: That'd be sick to watch some fights out there. Yeah,
- 50:51Speaker 1: I can't wait.
- 50:52Speaker 2: Man.
- 50:52Speaker 1: Good luck to you title. Good luck to everybody listening
- 50:54Speaker 1: except that last guy who commented, Uh.
- 50:58Speaker 2: Good luck everybody out up there for my man, Bib
- 51:01Speaker 2: Marley untitled town. Have a great weekend. Be safe, be