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Episode 65 Crown Jewel 2024 Predictions! · Podcast Championship Wrestling

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  Speaker 6: And sad?
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  Speaker 4: Welcome back to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling.
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  Speaker 4: I am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dried
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  Speaker 4: Chicken and God, it has been a long time. I
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  Speaker 4: would love to apologize to the peeps, apologize for the
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  Speaker 4: gap that I have given you, the vacation I've given you,
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  Speaker 4: the season ending the like I felt like we we
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  Speaker 4: did like half of a season and then we cut
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  Speaker 4: it and we'll come back later. We're like walking dead
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  Speaker 4: or like Yelle or some shit. And I feel bad
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  Speaker 4: because I've had some personal stuff going on in my life.
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  Speaker 4: I needed to take some time away and take care
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  Speaker 4: of that, take care of you know, I was mentally
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  Speaker 4: not in the right place. I had to take care
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  Speaker 4: of that before I came back because I didn't want
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  Speaker 4: this show to go anywhere. I want this show to
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  Speaker 4: be here. I want the show to keep going, and
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  Speaker 4: I kind of just separated them for a little bit,
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  Speaker 4: and I think separating them is what was best because
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  Speaker 4: I feel a lot better. I'm in a way better place.
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  Speaker 4: I'm excited to talk wrestling. And with that said, I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna play some interest music here and we're gonna bring
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  Speaker 4: on the guests for today. Drey Man, welcome back.
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  Speaker 3: How you doing yo? Yo? What did do? PCW crew?
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  Speaker 3: Good to be back.
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  Speaker 4: It is good to be back, dude, Crown Jewel, We're
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  Speaker 4: gonna be talking. We have so much talk about since
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  Speaker 4: the last time we were discussing wrestling, like so much
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  Speaker 4: ship has happened.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, imagine I was actually giving the damn about this
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  Speaker 1: p l E Oh my god.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah all right, and let you know what, let's bring
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  Speaker 4: him out. Let's bring out the other guy for our
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  Speaker 4: commentary team for tonight and from revisiting the Mania. Carlos
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  Speaker 4: welcome back, man.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, thank you very much for having me on. Great
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  Speaker 5: to be back and discussing and theorizing and trying to
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  Speaker 5: fantasy book how this next Billie will go.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I did not expect me to get this
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  Speaker 4: excited for Crown Jewel. I don't think any of us
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  Speaker 4: really expected a champion versus Champion coming, you know, out
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  Speaker 4: of this, because that's more of a survivor series, right,
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  Speaker 4: that's what that would have felt like, more of a
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  Speaker 4: survivor series. But the WrestleMania forty, it's like, how do
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  Speaker 4: you top that? Right? How do you because this is
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  Speaker 4: Saudy Mania, this is their WrestleMania. I mean, how do
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  Speaker 4: you top that? And the answer to that is, let's
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  Speaker 4: do some champion versus champion matches? Uh, Trey, when you
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  Speaker 4: when you heard we're getting champion versus Champion, did you
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  Speaker 4: roll your eyes like, great, we're gonna get uh maybe
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  Speaker 4: not infinitive outcomes here, We're just gonna possibly get some
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  Speaker 4: screwover roll up pins or maybe some inter fans. We're
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  Speaker 4: not gonna get true champion versus champion. I mean, how
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  Speaker 4: do you feel about this?
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  Speaker 6: Well?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, realistically speaking, when they first announced the Champion
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  Speaker 1: versus Champion, because remember when they announced it, they also
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  Speaker 1: announced it was for those god awful ugly ass titles.
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  Speaker 1: So the prospect of a champion versus Champion match always
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  Speaker 1: comes with a certain level of interest, but the fact
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  Speaker 1: that it's for a meaningless title, because let's be real,
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  Speaker 1: we all know this is this title is about as
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  Speaker 1: important as that andre the Giant Battle Royal Title or
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  Speaker 1: the Greatest World Rumble Championship and all those other ones.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a show piece. So in that regard,
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  Speaker 1: there's not much real interest in the match itself other
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  Speaker 1: than the fact that we don't know who's gonna win.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like other feuds or other PLI matches where you're,
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  Speaker 1: you know, ninety five percent certain who's gonna win the match, like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this person's gonna win. The interest is in where the
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  Speaker 1: story goes. At least for these matches, the best thing
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  Speaker 1: they have going for them is the fact that anybody
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  Speaker 1: could win the match and there would be some interest
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  Speaker 1: maybe and how or what kind of storyline developments we
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  Speaker 1: may get as a result or that transpires in the
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  Speaker 1: matches for something further down the line. But the whole
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  Speaker 1: that the champion versus Champion aspect is kind of a
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  Speaker 1: a bait thing again for some of the one of
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  Speaker 1: the ugliest titles I've ever seen ever.
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  Speaker 4: You know what, that's good because I was gonna ask
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  Speaker 4: you too, like what you thought of the title for
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  Speaker 4: the men's and women's because this is Carlos. Do you
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  Speaker 4: think the same thing?
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  Speaker 5: But I just think it's a little bit gaudy. Like
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  Speaker 5: it's like it's like they took the current belt and
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  Speaker 5: then they decided to shoot it up with like a
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  Speaker 5: bunch of steroids. Yeah, and they're like, we need more emeralds,
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  Speaker 5: and we need more gold and others. Is Saudi Arabia
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  Speaker 5: where kings just throw whatever the hell we can make
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  Speaker 5: in the ford and have it lugging around like it's
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  Speaker 5: part like it's a Stanley Cup to every city that
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  Speaker 5: raw or SmackDown rolls into town.
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  Speaker 4: I know. It's like when we used to play our
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  Speaker 4: WW two K games, back when you guys could create
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  Speaker 4: your own title, right, there was options. You could add
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  Speaker 4: all these diamonds and rubies and crap to them, and
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  Speaker 4: sometimes you would just add so much it would allow
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  Speaker 4: you to add so many layers of crack, like oh man,
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  Speaker 4: like nah, it's too much, like it would allow you
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  Speaker 4: to go that far. And it looks that's what it
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  Speaker 4: looks like. It looks like the Prince got all of
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  Speaker 4: a two K game and just created this title and
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  Speaker 4: just went insane and stretched it and just had to
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  Speaker 4: make it a little bit larger. Right, it's a little
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  Speaker 4: bit larger.
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  Speaker 3: They went back to the two thousands bling bling era.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all the bling, all the diamonds, all the jewels everywhere.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Carlos, do you feel the same way Dred
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  Speaker 4: does about this? It's like just a meaningless like title
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  Speaker 4: versus title match. I mean, were you excited to hear
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  Speaker 4: title versus title?
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  Speaker 5: I The whole interest of title versus title or champion
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  Speaker 5: versus champion was interesting because at first I thought, Oh,
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  Speaker 5: they're gonna be able to like have like some type
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  Speaker 5: of stipulation that would go into war games, like if
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  Speaker 5: they're trying to blend those two. But then I heard
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  Speaker 5: it's just for this title. And I don't know if
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  Speaker 5: you guys have this, like if you guys are a
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  Speaker 5: fan of baseball or anything like that. But here in Chicago,
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  Speaker 5: you know, we have the Cubs and we have the Socks.
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  Speaker 5: Before interleague play, they always played one game during the
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  Speaker 5: season and the sponsors or somebody would pay money. And
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  Speaker 5: at one time it was the BP Cup, like you know,
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  Speaker 5: the Petroleum Company so they would make a big deal
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  Speaker 5: about winning the VP Cup, but it really has no
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  Speaker 5: meaning only for that one game. So it was pretty
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  Speaker 5: much like, Okay, you won this one cup for this season. Yay,
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  Speaker 5: there's no extra thing. And that's how it feels, you know,
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  Speaker 5: like you win this belt. You have this big gaudy
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  Speaker 5: belt and that's it. It has no other like repercussions
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  Speaker 5: for anything else.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's weird because it's like, we got well
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  Speaker 4: I should say title versus title champion versus champion for
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  Speaker 4: a separate title, like neither of their titles are on
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  Speaker 4: the line. And I found it weird that we didn't.
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  Speaker 4: I understand we do have a United States title match,
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  Speaker 4: but I found it weird we didn't have the United
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  Speaker 4: States Champion versus the Intercontinental Champion, the tag team champions
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  Speaker 4: versus each other. But I guess that would be more
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  Speaker 4: of a Survivor Series type.
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  Speaker 1: Thing, right, Yeah, that would be more consistent I guess
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  Speaker 1: with like old school Survivor series. Yeah, and Saudi's I
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  Speaker 1: guess they didn't want to make that many gaudy ass
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  Speaker 1: belts like, yeah, the top Gaudy Belt, the mid Card
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  Speaker 1: Guda Belt, the Tag Team gaudy belt, like.
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  Speaker 3: Doing a bit much.
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  Speaker 1: But if they were gonna do Champion versus Champion, they
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  Speaker 1: could at least put some real stakes on it or
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  Speaker 1: something that would actually be have some level of actual significance,
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  Speaker 1: because one of the odds that we're gonna this belt
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  Speaker 1: after Saturday again, maybe maybe on Raw, maybe on SmackDown
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. But going back to your your baseball reference, Carlos,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't the MLB All Star Game have actual real implications
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  Speaker 1: National league versus American League. Doesn't the winner of that
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  Speaker 1: get home field advantage in the World Series if I'm
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  Speaker 1: not mistaken.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that and that particular like uh, you know
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  Speaker 5: the All Star Game, Yes, but I was referring to,
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  Speaker 5: like when the Cubs and the Socks. Yeah yeah, but
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  Speaker 5: that that one has whoever wins has home field advantage
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  Speaker 5: throughout the World Series. So that one makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So if they're gonna, if they were gonna would
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  Speaker 1: do something like that in WWE and have a champion
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  Speaker 1: versus Champion, put some real stakes on it, like the
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  Speaker 1: All Star Game has, make it so like whoever wins
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  Speaker 1: the match, that brand gets the thirtieth entrant on for
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  Speaker 1: the royld Rumble Next.
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  Speaker 5: Year, right or something like, uh, like champion versus champion,
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  Speaker 5: Like you don't have to defend at the next pay
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  Speaker 5: per view, you get the month off or something, you know,
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  Speaker 5: something like that in vacation.
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  Speaker 3: All right, yeah, or maybe or do it within the show.
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  Speaker 1: Make each one of them has a number one contender
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  Speaker 1: ready to face them. They face each other at the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of the show. Whoever loses has to defend their
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  Speaker 1: title that night against the number one contender that's waiting
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  Speaker 1: in the back.
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  Speaker 5: Now, that's a good one because that reminds me of
• 12:29
  Speaker 5: the WrestleMania tournament that they had WrestleMania five where they
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  Speaker 5: just had like a random tournament because Hull Colgan had
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  Speaker 5: to vacate the title.
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  Speaker 1: It's just something to make people actually give a damn,
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  Speaker 1: like put some actual stakes on it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just competing for this, you know, and.
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  Speaker 5: You make your way through the tournament and then you
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  Speaker 5: earn the GUDI belt. You just don't win Champion versus
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  Speaker 5: Champion and then you get that belt.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, don't you guys think too, like after
• 12:58
  Speaker 4: the dust is settled at this pay per view, Like,
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  Speaker 4: don't you think that hurts the credibility of that Brands
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  Speaker 4: Champion coming back a loser, like you know what I mean, Like.
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  Speaker 1: I think it could potentially if we were going to
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  Speaker 1: get clean finishes, but I think that was very much
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  Speaker 1: part of their thinking when they were putting these matches together, Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if these were just gonna be one on one matches
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  Speaker 1: with a clear, decisive winner, then yeah, you're putting.
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  Speaker 3: The loser at risk, right of looking weak.
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  Speaker 1: And that's another And because of that, I'm almost I'm
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  Speaker 1: ninety five percent certain both of these matches are going
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  Speaker 1: to have shenanigans that are probably going to lead to
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  Speaker 1: storylines moving forward in the Survivor series or something. But
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  Speaker 1: neither one of these is going to be a clean finish, right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah, who we kidding guys, We're not
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  Speaker 4: getting a clean finished, all right, this is happening November two.
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  Speaker 4: This will be I think like two in the afternoon
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  Speaker 4: for us on the East Coast.
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  Speaker 5: Is that?
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  Speaker 3: Oh shit? It is that damn early, isn't it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's too I think the pay per view says
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  Speaker 5: that it starts twelve one pm Eastern, Sorry one pm East, Okay, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean it's like smack in the middle of our
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: day on a Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: Like I work this Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I work Saturday too, but like soon as I'm
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  Speaker 4: doing work, I want to come home and watch it
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  Speaker 4: because like I'd have to basically stay off, you know,
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  Speaker 4: social media for the rest of the day, and I'm
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  Speaker 4: just I can't do that. I gotta watch it.
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  Speaker 3: I'll watch a Saturday night.
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  Speaker 1: I'll watch a Saturday because I mean, I'm working till
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  Speaker 1: five set this Saturday. After that I'm gonna go to
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: the gym. I'll be home at eight by then the
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  Speaker 1: replace should be up.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one thing with Peacock, Like you can't just
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  Speaker 4: come home in the middle of pay per view and like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I'll start it from the beginning and then I'll catch
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  Speaker 4: up or whatever. You know. You can't do that. It's
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  Speaker 4: like you gotta wait until it's finished, completely finished.
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  Speaker 5: I miss No, you can rewind it if you you
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  Speaker 5: could pause it and then all it depends. I don't
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  Speaker 5: know you, I think, did you say you watch it
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  Speaker 5: on Roku? Yeah, on the Peacock, Yeah, Peacock, because on
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  Speaker 5: my Apple TV, I pause it and then I can
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: just scroll all the way back. The only thing but
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: if I like, like fidget a little bit, like because
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: it's like it's the only thing I hate about the
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: Apple remote controls. It's all that haptic touch thing. So
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: if I just move my thumb one point when I'm
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  Speaker 5: like texting, and the remote control drops down on the
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  Speaker 5: on the control panel, then they'll take me back live.
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  Speaker 5: But then I could just pause it and then go back, so.
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  Speaker 1: You can jump into the live broadcast and rewind back
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  Speaker 1: to the beginning and then start hit play.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah I could. I could hit play from wherever like
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  Speaker 5: I you know, like if I catch it like in
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  Speaker 5: the middle. Like we'll just say for this example, like
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  Speaker 5: the women's tag team match, if I was to watch
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  Speaker 5: it there, I could I stop it at Chris pause
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  Speaker 5: and then I swiped all the way back back back
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  Speaker 5: to where the pay per view begins. Hm hm yeah, Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Nice Apple pulling up the money for a rewant feature
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  Speaker 1: Roku old cheap bastards.
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  Speaker 5: I think it just all depends on the user interface.
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  Speaker 5: But I'm sure like if you guys like maybe find
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: something to play with it or something like that, because
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure it's just you know, just hampered by the
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: ROCU technology.
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  Speaker 4: Mm hmm. So last pay per view we had was
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  Speaker 4: NXT's Halloween Havoc. After this pay per view, we will
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: be having a Survivor series, war Games, which I'm excited for.
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  Speaker 4: So this is basically setting up for war Games. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: and the previous pr R. I keep saying pay per
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  Speaker 4: view because fuck it, we're old school pay per view.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: The last one they had in Saudi was The King
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  Speaker 4: and Queen of the Ring, So you know that's it's
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  Speaker 4: funny to think that because last time we were here,
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  Speaker 4: Gunther and Naya won King and Queen the Ring, and
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  Speaker 4: now they're coming back as champions and possibly could win again.
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  Speaker 4: They were favored before in Saudi. It's like, hmm, makes
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  Speaker 4: me wonder if my predictions here. So let's get into
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: it here, let's scrawl the way out. You know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna We're gonna start with Seth freaking Rollins versus
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: Bronson Reid. Okay, this feud has been going on for
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: a little bit here. This is gonna be their first
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  Speaker 4: official match. I feel like this is a few for
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  Speaker 4: Bronson for a while because I really don't see anything
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  Speaker 4: else right now for Seth, I don't want to see
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  Speaker 4: what else is on his plate. I think him having
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: a few with Bronson's gonna be pretty good. Maybe put
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  Speaker 4: him over, but I don't think this is it. I
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: think Seth's gonna get his revenge for all those there's
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Sudono mays, you know. I think he's gonna get his revenge,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: and it's gonna get that pin. He's gonna give them
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  Speaker 4: that curve. Sup. I think he's not gonna get him
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  Speaker 4: a tsunami. I think he's gonna miss and we're gonna
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: turn into a curve stump. But I don't think it's
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  Speaker 4: the end of the few. I see these two. If
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  Speaker 4: we do have a Survivor Series team of some kind
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  Speaker 4: that doesn't involve Bloodline members, I can see these two
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: beyond opposite teams. But either way, I see Seth Rowlins
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  Speaker 4: walking out here. Drey, what do you think?
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  Speaker 3: I think Bronson Reid should win this match.
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  Speaker 4: I agree with that he's good.
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  Speaker 1: If if, if they wanted to, it makes more sense
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  Speaker 1: for Bronson Reid to win this match from the moment
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  Speaker 1: he started this whole path of destruction he's been on
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  Speaker 1: where he's just drowning people in tsunamis would have started
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  Speaker 1: all with Seth Brollins. They did this whole thing, built
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  Speaker 1: him up to be this monster quote unquote, gave him
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  Speaker 1: some actual credibility, gave him something that was actually interested in,
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  Speaker 1: something that fans were genuinely interested in him going out
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  Speaker 1: there and wrecking shop and building them up, and they
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: kind of then they bring in, you know, broun Strowman
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  Speaker 1: as to be his his equal or his someone to
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  Speaker 1: match him. Bronson reed should have gone over braun Stroman
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  Speaker 1: when they finally had their one v one a. Bronson
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  Speaker 1: Reid losing to him did nothing to help Bronson Reid
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  Speaker 1: in between the two of them, In my opinion, Bronson
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  Speaker 1: Reid is far more interesting than braun Strouman. To me,
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  Speaker 1: braun Strowman is he's a big guy, but he's kind
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  Speaker 1: of gimmicky at this point, can't really go like he
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  Speaker 1: used to. Health is questionable, hairline fading. Bronson reed to
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  Speaker 1: me has more end ring ability is a bit. I
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: believe he's a bit younger, to me, that he has
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  Speaker 1: more road ahead of him than bron Stroman did, and
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: for me that he should have gone over then, but
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: obviously he didn't. If he gets in his next major
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: match and loses again, then you pretty much squandered this
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: all this investment y'all done, And all this work y'all done,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: and building him up and making him this big monster.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: If he can't get it done when it matters, then
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: why should we care anymore? Oh, Bronson Reed's coming out
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: to tex somebody. Okay, he's just gonna lose again. So
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: what There's no point in building people up if they're
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: going to perpetually lose when it matters. Now, obviously, at
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: the end, whenever they do wrap up this feud, if
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: this feud were to continue beyond Crown Jewel, this Shore,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: eventually Seth Rollins should go over. But if this is
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the start of it, if there's more to this feud
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: beyond this pl e than Bronson Reed needs to win
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: this match. Unfortunately, if I had to put money on it,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: my money's probably gonna be on Seth because I don't
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: think that they are thinking long term as far as
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Bronson Reid is concerned. I think they're just thinking of
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: putting Seth over because Seth is top guy, and to me,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: that's the wrong decision.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Bronson Reid, you're right, though, He's had
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: like a hell of a bit of momentum going since
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: since he's been on the main roster. I will not
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: since but this has been on TV recently because he
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: was off for a while. But yeah, a hell of
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: a push, and I would agree he would so need it,
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: especially if it's gonna be like a three match feud.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: At least give him the first one to establish a
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: He's such a fucking threat, you know. But yeah, dude,
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: I agree with you, Carlos, So let's get your input
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: on this. Man.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm totally on the bandwagon for Bronson Reid needing
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: the win and he's so deserving of the wind since
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: I'm you know, primarily our podcast is making my wife wrestling,
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: you know, smart Mark, and we revisit the WrestleManias because
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: that's been the quicker way since we were attending WrestleMania
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: forty to get her up to speed. So this is
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: reminiscent of when like he reminds me of Earthquake, the
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: way he's been built and like how they head himself.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: Well I'm not I'm not sure.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: I'm like like a big guy villain. Yeah, they the
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: head like he's like a fucking threat to be.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and that's how Earthquake was presented, you know,
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: like he had this the finisher, and he was wrecking
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: everybody to at one point where he wrecked out Coogan
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: when he had to go off and after all all
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: of those aftershocks that he ended up doing to him,
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: you know, So Bronson Weed kind of built the same way.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: And I was kind of disappointed. And I understand that.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: I guess when it was that match between him and
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: Braun and he had like devastated Braun. He ended up
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: catching COVID, so he you know, they had him go
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: home and everything like that. But to have bron then
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: be like okay the next week and he inserted himself
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: into the I think it was for the Intercontinental three
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: way that they had or something, and yeah, it just
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: like you're like, there's like you couldn't write off Bronson Reed,
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: just being like, you know what, he won, but he
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: sustained some injuries and he's not clear by medical. No, Instead,
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: you had to have Broun front and center, and he's like,
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: I'm fine, I'm gonna go out there and take out
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: this opportunity. Like come on, guys, like sometimes they get
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: it and sometimes they don't. And I'm like, I'm on
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: the Bronson Reid. You need some monsters you need a
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: new monster because I'm just tired of Broun And yeah,
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: I would love for Bron for Bronson Reid to win
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: this match. But I think I think since this is
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: the Saudi's and you have to consider that, they might
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: just have some pull as far as like booking these matches.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: Will this be a one and done type of thing.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: I doubt it, you know, like we mentioned, this might
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: depending on how this matches. But because it's technically an
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: unsanctioned match, and I am not a fan of unsanctioned
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: matches because it's like, why you have a ref if
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: it's an unsanctioned match, You quote unquote don't want any
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: of the responsibility if someone gets hurt, But why why
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: even have even begin in the ring or even be
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: in the ring? So, because that's how it's gonna go.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: I know, everything happens in the ring, and who knows
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: if you can even go anywhere around the Saudi Kings
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: or anything like that in ringside, So they're gonna it's
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: it's gonna annoy me because it's an inn sanction match.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I think Seth's gonna find a way to win.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: But it's gonna be taking a toll on him, and
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: they might he you know, Bronson read. If they want
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: to keep building them, they need him to just keep
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: attacking them until you know, he actually puts him out
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: for a little bit too again, because that's what they
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: were going with, right that Seth has been gone because
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: of Bronson taking them out from all of those So
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: it needs to be like a relentless attack. I think
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: you need to have like that mentality where I'm gonna
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: go with Jaws, where like you think you kill Jaws
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: and he just still keeps coming back. You're like, where
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: the hell did this guy come from? So that I
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: think that that'd be the only way to keep building
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: Bronson if he does end up like losing to Seth.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's about the that would be. Yeah, I see
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: what you're saying.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: That would maybe be the only saving grace if like
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Seth hits him with you know, six stomps or whatever,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: gets him down just enough to get a three count.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: He's celebrating and then Bronson Reed gets back up and
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: then like or maybe Seth's walking to the back, he
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: turns around and sees Bronson Reed's standing and.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Walking behind him like I'm still coming.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then you could like lead it go to
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: like maybe like a last man's standing match, or like,
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: you know, I do want to see something.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Like I don't want another match unless Bronson wins this.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah exactly, But you know, I think that would need
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: like a gimmick match, whether it's like a steel cage match,
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: a last man's standing match, or even like a casket
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: or an ambulance match like we had in n XT
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: with the Chase U Chase agent. Yeah, because we haven't
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: seen that in the main roster for a while, so
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: that probably be something to dig out.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but at some points, at some point, Bronson got
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: to win against somebody, somebody like Jason was like Jason
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: put him down. Yeah, Bronston need to catch some bodies.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: He needs some dubs definitely for it.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: Yes, Seth Rolinds could be a hell of a win
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: for him, Like, oh ship, Okay, now now we're talking
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: about a threat here. I mean, you beat Seth fucking Rollins.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: All right, let's move on to the next one. Here,
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: we got our Randy Orton versus Kevin Owens, two best
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: friends who thought that either of these two would turn
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: on each other. Who would have thought, uh, I have
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Heyo down. I have Owens down. I feel like Owens
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: is gonna get this win out of this feud. I
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: just it just feels a little different this time because
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: how the whole betrayal went about. It is very different
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: than the normal Ko we see. And I think for
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: him to get the nice rub from Morton, you know,
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: I think this is the next level up for Ko.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, this guy hasn't won a world title in
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: so long, but you know, let's give him some credibility
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: and give him a win over a world champion, a
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: former world champion, I should say, and Orton can take
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: the loss for sure. I don't know where either of
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: him go after this few though, I really don't. I
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: don't know if this feud continues. I don't know if
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: either of them go for Cody then after this, I mean,
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: that'd be nice, then we pull Cody away from the
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: bloodline shit. But uh yeah, added this feud, I see
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Camo coming out with a clean pin too, with a
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: clean pin a stunner. We're gonna see Orton gets stunned here. Drady,
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: are you thinking the same thing I am? Or are
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: you completely on a different page? I think, and maybe
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Orton's gonna walk out r KO done.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think Orton wins. I do think Ko
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: goes over in this match. This is clearly the beginning
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: of whatever this long term story is going to be,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: probably involving all three of them, Cody, Kevin Owens, and
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Randy Orton. I think the three of them were probably
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: going to be interlocked with each other probably from now
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: through Wreussell Media in one way or another. Right, So
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: this is just the first, you know, the first chapter
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: in this more or less, then I could see probably
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Kevin Owens going over, leading into him having another match
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: with good with Cody for the title, except this time
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: it's obviously Kevin not holding back as opposed to him
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: being somewhat morally conflicted in their first match and him
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: trying to do it, you know, the good guy way
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: or the right way, so you know he's he'd be
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: a much more dangerous Kevin Owens this against Cody in
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: the next match, so I can see it happening that way.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: There could also be the option.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Of Randy Orton goes over, wins, gets his revenge on Ko,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: but Ko is still upset, frustrated, attacks Randy afterwards or
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: something because like if all three of these guys are
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: going to be interlock with each other at some point,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: we know at some point Randy's also going to turn
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: on Cody. So the real question, or to me, the
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: most interesting part, is how does that turn happen?
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: You know, how do we get to how do we
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: get to that point?
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I give WW props for how they did the Kevin
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Owens turn because they didn't they didn't make it overly
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: produced or you know, do it in a SmackDown segment
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: or a Peelice segment. They pretty much just did it
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: like a viral clip because it was right after it
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: with the PL They just last pl they just had.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah right after bad Blood.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah shows over with press conference was overweight, you know
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: what you're thinking, everything's done for the night or whatever.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: That's you know, there's this clip online like, oh shit,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Kevin Owens attacked freaking Cody outside the bus and it
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: didn't look again, didn't look like you know, a w
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: W camera, looked like just you know, jittery cell phone
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: footage and ship so real, natural, real organic props to
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: them for that, So I got I gotta acknowledge that
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: part and give them credit for that but again back
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: to this match, probably gonna be Kevin Owen's going over
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: and then leading into him getting another match against Cody.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: All right, Carlos, how about you bud this one.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: I'm torn because they could go go either way, but
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna put myself into a Royal Saudi mindset and
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Kevin Norton. Excuse me, Randy Orton.
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: Kevin Orton, I was combining them, But yeah, I think
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: Randy's gonna pull off the victory here, and it's just
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: gonna it'll be probably more like logic too than Randy wins.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: So he could keep Kevin's spiral down into his greediness
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: and you know, narcissistic ways that he had. Ironically from
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: you know that this is happening again because we've just
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: watched WrestleMania thirty three and he had the same type
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: of thing going with Jericho where they had broken up,
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: they were into it, and then he got jealous because
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: he had to drop the belt to brock Lesner so
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: he could have that match with Goldberg, and so he
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: challenged Jericho to his United States Championship and that was
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: the last spoiler alert, and we're gonna talk about it
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: in my podcast whenever we get a chance to post.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: It's just tired from having the newborn. But you know,
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: that's the last match Jerk or the last resuming Jericho
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: attends because he ends up leaving because he didn't like
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: the booking for that particular feud.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm, yeah, all right, there's seven matches on this car.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: We're used to the five matches here.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: Well, it's Saudi. The Saudi's paid for it, so you
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: gonna get whatever.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Sadi paid that two match bonus.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. It's weird though, It's like this is
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: like a Saudi card where like not on it, Goldberg's
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: not on it, the Undertaker's not on it. Uh. These
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: these big names that the Saudis would always love to have. Oh, Master,
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: we got here, Okay, here we go. This is the
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: triple threat for the United States Championship. El A Night
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: versus Andrade versus Carmelo Hayes. I'll tell you what, uh it.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: It's a good way to get the title off of
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: La Knight doing in a triple threat Stee Carmelo Hayes
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: leaving with the United States title. I feel like his
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: time is coming and it's now. L A. Knight hasn't
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: done much a champion thus far. He had some successful,
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: uh you know, matches, but I don't know. I'd be
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: very surprised that if he was able to make it
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: out of this triple threat. Unfortunately, I don't see Andrade
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: coming out at all. As much as I think Andrades
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: should get a push after coming back to the company,
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: not from an injury, he's he came back to the company,
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: I figured like the payoff would maybe him getting pushed
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: to actually getting a title, but I just having felt
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: the momentum with him, his character at all, I felt
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: that with Carmelo Hayes, though, I feel like this is
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: it for this guy and it's really gonna put him
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: on the map if you haven't you know, seen him
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: yet and him being the United States Champion, I think
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: that's that's the start for him. Dre, what are you thinking.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I would love for Carmelo Hayes to win this match,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: but I don't think he will. I think probably LA
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Knight is going to retain the title.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Do I think he should?
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Probably not, because, like you said, his title reign has
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: been super lackluster so far. I think he's had very
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: few title defenses, maybe like one or two memorable, ain't
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: no how memorable. I think he's only had like one
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: or two. I can't even remember how many he's had.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: But it's been super lacklusser. For as much as everybody
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: wants to try to dunk on Cody, Cody's read has
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: been lake clisten, Coody's reen hasn't been good as really means.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Coody's been lakelissener.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: L A Knight right there with this mediocre ass US
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: title run, and I don't nobody say nothing about that,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: but yeah, Andrew d Nah, he's not gonna get it
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: like he's being featured in high profile programs and that's
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: probably about the extent that we're gonna get from him
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: from that for now, unless he somehow gets super over
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: with the fans. Other than that, I don't I don't
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: see Triple A's doing much more for him right Mellow
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Mellow does have a bright future ahead of him on
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: the main roster. I just don't think it's now, Like
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I don't think this is the time that he becomes
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: champion yet. Unfortunately, even though I almost say unfortunately, but
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: even though La Knight's reign has been super mediocre. He's
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: still feel incredibly popular with the fans, even though I
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: think you know, jay Uso has got the jay Uso
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: was what everybody thought La Knight was gonna be. Like
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: remember last year when La Knight was super over and
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: everybody was like, oh man about the tire rocket ship
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: to La Knight. Look how over he is. Look at
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: the pops he's getting yet of y out of this,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: that and the third and that. Shit just kind of
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: plateaued real quick, and it seems like that's pretty much
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: where he's been at. He's popular, he's over, he got
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: the good moment of him finally becoming a champion, and
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: now it's just plateaued. There's been no growth. He hasn't
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: really fallen off much. Beat He hasn't grown either, but
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: he hasn't fallen off enough yet for him to lose
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: the title or for them to take the title off
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: of him.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: So he's probably gonna retain.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: Now that Carlos is gonna be like, he's gonna win
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: at you gotta split the difference here, this triple thread. Well, okay,
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: let's hear what you got.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: Like my my common sense, my Saudi brain says that l. A.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: Knight's gonna win, Yeah, but Carmelo Hayes should be the
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: one to win. Ever since he's come up like they
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: had such a great match him and Andrade that they
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: extended this match or this this feud into a seven
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: match series quote unquote, yes, match, which was besides L. A.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: Knight wearing his vest and wearing his belt, there was
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: nothing else worse than that finish that I can think of.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: But I'd love to have, like or actually have some
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: type of theory that Andrade should win. But to me,
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: the booking hasn't been there, Like you got one week
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: or Andrede stopped coming out with his traditional entrance of
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: him holding his black mask after he takes it off.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: I think one week he didn't show up, and I
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: thought that was like a beginning towards something like as
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: much as he likes to hold on to his roots
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: being a loucha lord like, Like, honestly, you guys, without
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: using Google Translate or anything like that, do you even
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: know what either low means idle?
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: Well?
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, idole? But do you think anyone else in the
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: arena knows that?
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: No?
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Probably not now, depending on what Yeah.
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: Depending on what city it's like, so I don't know
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: why like he wants to stick to this gimmick besides
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: it being like tied to his roots. And I understand it,
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: like being tied back to home, especially since you know
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: he's far away from home and he's always traveling. But
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: you gotta find something like as much as I hate
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: del bertil Real now knowing all of his history and
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: his uh you know, like background and things like that,
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: they had a great storyline when they pushed him as
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: him living the American dream when he was going uh
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: uh you know, having that particular WrestleMania match, and now
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: you just need to find something similar. I think with Andrade,
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: you gotta find like you need to find his type
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: of version of that. I was disappointed that he didn't
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: want to keep up with ae W. You know, he's
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: probably like wanting or thing or beliefs, and we do too,
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: because he did have the NXT title, and he did
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: have some great matches down in the n XT when
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: he had Zelena Vega with him as his ballet slash mouthpiece.
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: But you are here, you got was the speed champion
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: right now, the current men's speed Champion whatever I guess built. Yeah, so.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: They never wear the speed Champion title exactly.
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: If you want to tout that championship, why doesn't he
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: come out with it? Why why is he just like
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: leave it like he has a championship. You want people
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: to watch this on X, then make it mean something.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: These are one of these things where I feel like
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: you put it out there and then you're like, well,
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: we're just gonna have fastest and see if it catches,
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: and if it catches, we'll keep cooking. So I would
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: love to have Andrade like be one of my favorite
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: guys like he was in nxteam, But ever since he's
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: come to the main roster, it's just it's either the
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: writers or someone's not finding something to book him with.
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: And he had the same issue at AW and I
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: thought maybe it was gonna have like he was gonna
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: turn the corner. I'm a big fan of los Ingobnabulis,
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: whether it's the l I J or the original the LFI,
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: but they he didn't want any part of that and
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: he wanted to go on his own. And you know,
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: Carmelo Hayes did a lot of great work, like me
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: Andre mentioned, but it's gonna be l A Knight unfortunately,
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: And maybe this will help lead them somewhere else because
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: I can't think of anyone else he would have to face,
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: So they'd have to have one of these tournaments again
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: to see who faces l A.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Knight.
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: And just like Cody, this has been one of these
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: lackluster runs because it's like they made them champions. But
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: now now we're getting somewhere with at least Cody where
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: like his friends are kind of gonna turn against them,
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: or maybe Cody will end up turning against them, but
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: we'll get to that a little bit later. But we're
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: talking about the but you know it's starting to pick up.
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: I think La Knight is going to start. It's got
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: to find it somewhere to pick up because like dre
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: mentioned and not mentioning now, it's just it's kind of
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: like in like hover mode, and we need to know
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: where we're going next exactly.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they need to do something with La Knight or
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: they need to put the title on somebody else more interesting.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: It's just as we all know, just being over isn't enough,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: right Eventually, you know, if you're popular but nothing of
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: substance is happening, fans will turn on you real quick.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: So yeah, they either got.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: To give us a reason to stay engaged with La Knight,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: or stay interested in him, or put the title on
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: somebody else, find something else for l A. Knight to do,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: or make the interest in him regaining what he lost
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: or something. But TBD.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: But I think we all are all. I think we're
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: all in agreement that we.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Want Mellow to win, right right, and then we all
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: see a brighter future. Of between the three of them,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Mellow has the brightest future among all.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah right now, yeah, I agree? Uh. Moving on Fatal
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: four Away Tag Match for the w W Women's Tag Championship.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: We have Jade Cargill and Bianca bell Air as the
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: champions versus Damage Control, Kyris Sing and Eo Sky versus
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: Metaphour Last Legend and uh Jaikara Jackson versus Chelsea Green
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: and Hyper and Evan. What a group of women? What
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: a mix? I don't know much about Metaphoor. Are they
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: from NXT? They like? Are they still in NXT?
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: They they are from NXT, but I think they just
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: got called up to the main roster.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: It's kind kind of.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Nice when you when you look at the match itself,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: You've got the women Tag Team Champions defending against lash
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: legend of Jakar Jackson and an XT team Eo Sky
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: and Kyrie saying a raw team, and then Chelsea Green
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: and Piper Niven a SmackDown team.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: So it's kind of dope the way they put this
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: together like.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: That, But that's how it should be.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Right, right for something like this. Yeah, it's a good
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: it's a good booking of the match.
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is how the women's tag division should be booked.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: It should be every pay per view.
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: It should be.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: You know, between pay per views you have tournaments to Okay,
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: who's going to represent our brand for the women's tag
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: titles at you know, at the next pay per view
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: you know, look like a big one like this.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know that, every man, I don't know
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: that every pl should be a fatal four way, but
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, like it should be all
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: there should be active competition on all three shows in
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: pursuit of the women's tag time titles exactly.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: I mean they cut down the NXT women's tag titles.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: We only have one brand overall for the titles. It's
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: a universal goes anywhere.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: So let's the one true undisputed title.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: N WWE true, So let's see it go and be
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: defended all over. I love I love seeing that. I
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: love seeing this not just from the brand that Bianca
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: Bellair and Jake Cargo are on. So that's good. So
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: for this fatal Quarter, I don't The one thing is
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: like four way tag matches. I'm not a fan of them,
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: to be honest. It's so confusing, and there's tag teams
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: that could easily be left. I don't know, maybe I'm
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: thinking of it for realistically, I'm like, once you just
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: leave the other tag teams out and just never tag
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: them so they never have the opportunity to like make
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: a pin and win the titles.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but like with all the matches, somebody gets thrown
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: into a turnbuckle, another one tags themselves in.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: Yep. So you know, I feel like we're gonna get
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: a really good show, a really good show. But the
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: end of the day, I'm saying the champs are walking
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: out still. They're retaining Jade Carlo and Bianca bell are
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: going to retain those titles. They're gonna put on a
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: hell of a show and they're gonna dominate. Now. Plan
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: B is if they get screwed over yet again because
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: they have gotten screwed over in large tag matches like
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: this before and lost their titles. I believe.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Clash at the Castle, I think, or
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Clash the Castle. It was clash at the Castle because
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: that was down and Fire's hometown and me.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: So we don't have any hometown, you know. But as
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: a recently with the the recent win of the tag
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: titles with the motor Motor City machine Guns is up? Correct?
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: Am I saying that right? Motor City machine Guns? Yes,
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: I could see another whole crap. I didn't see that
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: coming out of nowhere, the metaphor this new NXT tag
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: team that just came out of nowhere that's recently been
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: on the showing up on the main roster, right, fresh
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: tag team Blood. I could see this being another you know,
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: they lost the titles, but they didn't get pinned situation,
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: you know, like this team is very good, but they
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: don't get pinned. You know, they get screwed over. And
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: I could see it happening again, and they have now
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: a feud with some fresh meat, some fresh NXT talent
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: to put over. That's how that's the plan. B. But
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: I I think at the end of the day we're
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: gonna get Jadeen and bell A are just walking out
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: as champions. It's gonna leave the Saudi crowd happy and
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: they're gonna give him a good match. Dre, Are you
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: thinking the same thing? I am? Are completely different.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Jade and Bianca Bettter walk out as damn champions after
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: that bullshit. They pulled a fucking clash of the castle.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Damn well Bennoff, Screwty's girls over, Screwty's woman over again.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: That's where my money's AT's on bait U, Biyanca and
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Jade retaining. If they were to take it off of
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: them and put it on another team, I think the
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: more most interesting option would be Chelsea.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Green and Piper Kniven.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I think they would make for between if not BEYONC
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: and Jay, they would make for the more interesting champions.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: As much as I love Leo and Kyrie saying and yeah,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: everybody know I got love for EO, them is champion,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it really does anything or moves
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: the needle in any way. And Lash and Jakara, yes
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: they are, They're good. They're clearly being roster ready since
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: they got the call up to smack down. But but
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: unlike MotorCity machine Guns, they don't have that built in
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: credibility already, Like they're still seen as the new kids
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: on the block, haven't been called up from NXT, whereas
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: MotorCity Machine Guns came in as a well known and
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: established tag team that has won multiple titles in multiple
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: places for multiple promotions throughout their career.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: So they didn't.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: They don't have that rookie that new blood shine. Then
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: maybe dow to WWE, but that's it. So them coming
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: in and becoming you know, instant champions, as much as
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: some people may scream hot shot booking, does have a
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: certain degree of credibility to it, whereas Lash and Jaikar
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: just don't.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: Have that yet.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: So they'll I think they'll, like you said, they'll all
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: put on a good show in this match. I think
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: they'll absolutely show out as the women excuse me, as
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: the women always tend to do in these type of situations.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: But ultimate, when it's all said and done, my money's
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: on Biance and Jade retaining as champions and then really
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: the interesting the only interesting thing moving forward is when
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: do they ultimately lose the titles? We all know long
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: term where there's this heading. It's just a matter of
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: when do we when do they start that? When does
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: that storyline begin? I don't think it begins here a
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Crown Jewel though.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: Not not Crown Jewel. Maybe what's after? What do we
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: have after war Games?
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Saturday Saturday? Ye, Saturday Night made a vitage. I think
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: they said that's in what late November December. I think
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: they said something like that. Yeah, I think they said,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: try to treat that like a p l.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: E even though it's not an actual appey.
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: And that would probably be a perfect place because then
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: you can spend it like Hogan and Savage because that's
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: where the breakup started with Miss Elizabeth.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: Oh that's a good one, but no third third party
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: and involved. But I could still see something happening to
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: oh damn, yeah, set up for the Rumble or that
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: has a WrestleMania match when we're talking.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, there could be something setting up into the
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: new year.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if they like, if the breakup between Bianca and
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Jay starts at Saturday Night, main event starts to carry
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: and that's pretty much basically the end of the year
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: for WWE.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: After that, we probably don't get nothing.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: But like you know, recap shows and YadA YadA, and
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: then starting off twenty twenty five, that's their storyline going
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: into WrestleMania.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see it starting there.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Maybe they have a match at main event and they lose,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: and then I think at some point, who knows, maybe
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Naomi maybe get pulled back into this.
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: She's part of the Big Three, right, so she is
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: that true True's part.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she is part of the Big Three.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Even though they've kind of they really didn't stick with
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: that as much as I would have liked to have
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: seen them stick with it. They've more or less have
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: paired Naomi up with Bailey throughout most of this year
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: since WrestleMania, Right, but I can.
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: See Naomi being like, you know, that center, like trying
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: to be the neutralizer and that damn.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Man and then something, Yeah, she could be a neutralizer
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: than something. Yeah, try trying to be the one that
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: keeps the peace throughout it, and then something else could
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: happen that could just spur more jealousy or whatever between
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: one of them, the Bianca or j which everyone ends
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: up being the heel in the in the situation. Yeah,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: and if rumors are true, I think twenty twenty five
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: could be a pretty good year for Naomi if if
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: some rumors I've read online turn out to be the case.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: Really happy for what the future might hold for her.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: Did you want to you want to elaborate on that?
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: What do you? What is you here?
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: There's a rumor out there that she is a possible
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Rumble winner for twenty twenty.
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: Five cool and earned.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Naomi winning the Rumble album. I'm here for that.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean that's definitely something she hasn't done yet,
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: something fresh. I like that.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: And she is a veteran, She's definitely a champion. She
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: has the credibility of it. Even if they, you know,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: kind of have her win some lose some now, yeah
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: she's still over with the fans. But give her some
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: momentum or something like that. I'm absolutely here for I
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: think she's more than deserving.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Carlos, what she's thinking? Man?
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: For this far away tag team that's gonna be Bianca
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: and Jade, I mean I would love to have someone
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: else have like a chance still waiting for like some
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: reason to like believe that Eosky and Kyrie Saying can
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: actually pull off a victory. But look at all the
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: physiques and all these women, they got the powerhouses, not
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: only from Jade and Bianca, but last legend is no no,
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: like no joke when you like, she could be part
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: of the Big three if they really, you know, wanted
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: to just separate her. But you know it's like there's
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: like in your head, like reasoning wise, like if you
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: were to treat this like a UFC type of match,
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: you look at EO and Kyrie and compare them to
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: mostly everyone else, You'll be like, there's no reason why
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: they should be able to pull this off at all,
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: you know, if we're like looking at like techniques and
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: things like that. Storyline wise, also, there's no reason for
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: them to pull it off just because this is in Saudi.
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: That's the only reason I'm going with Jadri and Bianca.
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: It would be nice to have like a lash legend
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: and Jakaro win. But I still see the thing with
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: me is I watch that n XT once in a
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: while and they're still like I pop in, pop out,
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: pop in, pop out, because there's nothing like how it
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: was five years ago that I'm like, I like this person,
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: I like this person, I like this tag team. There's
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: nothing that keeps me hooked right now and I like,
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: I like lash Legend, Jakarlo, I could like take your
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: leave or whatever, but I don't like that whole stable
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: of metaphor just because it's like, what is your gimmick
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: besides being meta? For like, you guys aren't like in
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: any type of championship type of hunts right now, except
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: for like lash Legend and Jakaro. But like, uh, I
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: don't see it. It's just like you know, you we
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: always talk about like when you see somebody or hear
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: somebody like singing or things like that, you're like, yes,
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: they got it, you just know right away, and that's it,
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: And I just don't see it yet. They just need
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: to work on something in my eyes. And Piper and Chelsea,
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: I would love Chelsea's been doing great stuff still and
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: I would still love for her to give the singles push.
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: I was surprised when Sonya Deville came back because they
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: had that chemistry before she toured it her ACL or
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: MCL whatever. She ended up tearing and they just kept
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: them separate and then she went, Sonya want to go
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: create that performance fitness whatever whatever it's called. I'm not
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: sure what it is right now, but that stable with
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: Zoe Stark and Shane A. Basler breaking this down like
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: that for me is and probably because of the Saudi's
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: already told them who they want to win, It's gonna
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: go with Jaden Bianca.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting that you bring up the point of
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: EO and Kyrie saying being, you know, on paper, the
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: biggest underdogs in the match due to their size, which
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: is a valid analysis, you know, based upon size. Yeah,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: you think they would be the biggest underdogs. But if
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: there was one thing that would that would work in
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: that favor, it would be the fact that out of
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: all eight women in this match, Kyrie and EO are
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: probably the best wrestlers out of all eight of these women,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: with maybe with Bianca being right behind them, and then
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: I would say probably Chelsea Green if we're talking about
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: like just the best workers in this match, because Chelsea
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Green is underrated as fuck as ring performers, she can
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: absolutely go.
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, if it wasn't for like, if it was like
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: I just don't see a storyline with it, Like where
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: would you take it?
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: That's yeah, this is.
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: Like there's nothing there that I could branch out in
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: fantasy book with them. This is the way it's got
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: to go because this is the build up that they're cooking.
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: They're gonna eventually break up jadeen Bianca, and it's just
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: a matter of where they do it. And you know,
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: you gotta cement, you gotta keep so many of them
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: as champions and that they had this strong bond before
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: you break them down and start making them go their
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: separate ways.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: You're with that, because yeah, there really is no story
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: there with EO and Kyrie as champions other than they
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: would just be champions and just be holding the belts. Now,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: maybe that maybe they're the ones who come out on
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: top whenever they do decide to break up Jade and Biaka.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: Maybe they're the ones that get the titles off of them.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Who knows, but yeah, for now, I think we're all
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: in agreement that probably Bianca n Jade walk out as
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: champions because there's more story there than there is anywhere else.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: Meet there on the bone. Basically, uh okay, okay, hold on?
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: Who okay? I have next on our list? Moving on,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: the singles match for the inaugural w W Women's Crown
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: Jewel Championship that is Live Morgan, the Raw Women's Champion
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: versus Naya Jacks the SmackDown Women's Champion. Now, I kind
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: of want to hear your guys' opinions first before I
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: kive your mind because mine might feel a little out there.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: Uh Dre, who do you think is gonna come out
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: as the inaugural Women's Crown Jewel Champion.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: I honestly have no idea, but I know shenanigans are
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: going to ensue.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: Now, there's gonna be shenanigans. Now.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: The one person that we all probably thought what may
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: have played a factor in this match was Real Ripley.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: But based upon what happened on NXT this past Tuesday
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: and what WWE has announced since then, which for anybody
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: who did not watch NXT this past Tuesday, Real Ripley
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: showed up to uh reach some of the women, speak
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: to some of the women back in the locker room
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: because NXT is about to have their twenty three hundred
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: show next Wednesday at the old DCW Arena. Shit Likes
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: is gonna be pretty dope too, But uh yeah, Ria
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: was there. She was backstage talking to some of the women,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: and then later on in the show, right before the
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: main event, they get another backstage segment a bunch of
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: referees go running outside, like to the back, I mean
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: run out to the parking lot. They run up to
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: a car and real Ripley is laid out by this car,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: where her face all smashed the hell up, like her
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: face bruised up, bloodied up. But as the referees were
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: running towards that car, they ran past Lived Morgan and
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Raquel Rodriguez holding bats, and then they ran up on
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: uh read Ripley and found her all beat up and
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: blooded up, which again blood on the next blood from
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: a woman, something we don't see on hardly ever in WWE.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: But no, she literally had bloody face, blood coming from
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: her mouth like made it look pretty brutal, like damn,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: they just beat that bitch with a bed but so
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: and since then, I think ww came out with an
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: announcement saying that Ria has a orbital bone fracture and
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: we'll be out for and disclosed thet of time. I
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: don't know if they're using that to cover up some
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: legitimate injury that she has or if this is all
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: kfe Who knows, but.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: I would think so.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: I would think if there was some legitimate injury that
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: that probably would have been low key reported beforehand, but
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: that does put into question any appearance from where you're
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: ripley at Crown Jewel. So presumably take her out of
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: the equation, then where does the interference come from in
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: this match other than Tiffany Stratton? M though, because there's
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: really nobody to interfere to come after live. If Rhea
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: is out of the equation, presumably Raquel will be there
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: in some capacity to have her back, So the interference
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: will presumably come from Tiffany Stratton, which then poses the
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: question of.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 7: Well, what's Tiffany going to do? Is she going to
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 7: help not or is she going to cash here the reefs.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 7: I hope this isn't when she cashes it in. I
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 7: mean she's gonna cash it eventually. I just hope it's
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 7: not here.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: I hope it's not here. But honestly, I wanted to
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: ask you guys first, because honestly, I think it's Tiffany
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: Stratton's moment. This is when she gets that who better
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: to get the big gawky looking fucking belt along with
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: Nya Jackson's belt, Like she's gonna walk out, like what
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: what person?
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: Was she gonna cash it? On a meaningless title No.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: She's not gonna they're not gonna catch it. She's not
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: gonna catch it in to make it a triple threat
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: like we've seen before. She's gonna cash it afterwards. Yea,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: So she's not gonna leave with that god awful belt.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: She's just gonna leave. What Night is? I think?
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think too, but or both, like I don't,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: I don't know. It kind of gets weird when it's like, Okay,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: if she beats Naya after Night wins, does she get
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: both titles? Does she get the title that she just won?
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: I just don't think that Night wins.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's to whoever she chooses to cash it in on,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: unless she inserts herself into the match.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: But again, it's not title for titles, so it wouldn't.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Make any sense for her to insert herself into a
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: triple threat match that's not for.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: A real title.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: So yeah, if she would, if she's going to cash in,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: if that happens, it would presumably be afterwards, and she
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: would presumably cash in on whoever the loser is, because obviously,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: if Nya emerges victorious, she's not going to cash in
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: on Naya. She would presumably cash in on Live afterwards
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: or try to cash in on Live afterwards. But I'm
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: just not ready to see Tiffany Stratton as champion on
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: the main roster. I just don't see it yet. I'm
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: not saying that she's not talented, because I know she's talented.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: I've seen her match as at NXT. She can absolutely
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: go in the ring. But the character to me just
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: isn't there yet. There's to me, there's the story. To me,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: the story it doesn't seem like it's finished yet, like
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: there's still more to this before we get to that
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: ultimate cash in moment. I don't see any momentum with
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Tiffany Stratton pushing towards the championship. This storyline still feels
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: like it's somewhere in the middle, not towards its it's
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: in there, it's climax.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: And again, I just.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: I don't see the She just doesn't strike me as
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: champion ready yet on the main roster.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: And I don't know that they're gonna give her a failed.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Cash in attempt that would kind of suck for her.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: So I obviously they're gonna tease the cash in because
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: that's what they do all the fucking time now with
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: these briefcases. I just don't know that she's actually going
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: to cash in, but I think teasing the cash in,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: she's somehow gonna cost Naia Jackson match, which is gonna
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: cause which is gonna lead to liv Morgan watching walking
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: out as the Crown Jewel Champion, and then Tiffany costing Naya.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: The match is going to further their.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: Storyline towards Tiffany's eventual turning on Nya and cashing it.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: So Live Morgan to me is the one who probably
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: emerges out of this match as the fake title champion.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: Carlos, I mean he's thinking Nya, He's thinking Tiffany Stratton.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, I see you think in there, No, I do.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: The winner of this is going to be Live Morgan. Now,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: whether it's because of interference from Raquel or interference from Tiffany,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: I would. I think it's gonna be a combination of both.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: So we're gonna gonna probably get like a botched cashing,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: like Drake was mentioning where tiff He's probably running in
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 5: and it's gonna be she's gonna attempt to do it
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: on Live and that ends up like leading to Naya
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: losing and depending on how rock Naya is, we might
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: get her cashing in Anaya like that would definitely be
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: something that I believe the Saudis would love to see,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 5: you know, because we don't expect any type of titles
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: to possibly change hands from any of the people that
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: are defending here, you know, Ella and I, like we mentioned,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: he's still over even though we don't see where it's going,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: and Jane Bianca are still over. So I think if
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: we had to choose who the Saudis would love to
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: see when more, whether it's live or Nay, I think
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: we're gonna go with live. So and then they were
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 5: probably I think this is one of the from the
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: King and Queen of the Ring. I think when they
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: had Tiffy you know there in that tournament, I think
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: she got a good pop while she was there too,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: So this was like the beginning of the rise of
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: Tiffy Stratton in her main roster beginning. So I think
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: if we get a cash in, I wouldn't be surprised.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: And if Tiffy ends up beating Naya, and in this particular,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: like if it's gonna happen, this is probably more than
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: likely where it's gonna happen if not, then it probably
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: won't happen to like maybe if not here at maybe
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: at Royal Rumbo. Or it could be like we got
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: last year where we got Drew McIntyre cashing in at WrestleMania.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: Now I'll say, well, I wouldn't be opposed to I
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: would not I would not be opposed to Tiffany cashing in,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: like say she costs nither match or whatever. Nia's pissed
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: off at her. You know, Tiffany gets sick of her ship,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: you know, cracks her with the briefcase or whatever, decides
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: to cash has Nia laid out and says, screw it,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: I'm cashing it now, cashes in and then fails like
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: she cashes in beats and then Nya fights her off
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: and beats her. And then that is part of Tiffany's
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: story to eventually.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: Be the one to de thron Nya.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: But she fails her first time on the money in
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: the bank cash in, and then from there she has
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: to Obviously her and ny are over as as buddies.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: And now Tiffany's now in the chase. She's in chase mode.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: She's seeking out Naya and she's fighting her way back
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: up to eventually get back at NYA and goes into
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: the rumble with revenge on her mind.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: Is that's her way? Okay, the money in the bank
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: didn't work.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna win the rumble and get back in Naya
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: and then we which could lead to, you know, Tiffany
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: versus Naya at Wrestle Maine. Yeah, and then Tiffany wins
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: that I would not be opposed.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: To, Okay, Yeah, and then you start pairing Nia with
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: Indie and.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: Those two.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I forget about her, Like, yeah, that's her, her
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: new minions, her new click.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah click, that's what we just need ray Nia Jackson
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: her own click.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: Why not have it all the time?
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah? No, I get it, I mean I I Yeah.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: The reason why I asked you guys is I just
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: think it's gonna there's gonna be a cash of some kind.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: I think we're not gonna get a definitive winner. I
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: think we're gonna get a cash in of some kind. Somebody.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: Tiffany's leaving with somebody's goal. I don't know who, I
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: don't know what. It would be so stupid if she
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: just cashes it and just wins that new title, just
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: just to have it it'd be a waste of cashing.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: But and again where it wasn't the last male cash
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: in uh da, McIntire's a waste as well. I mean, yes, further,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: he won, he was champion. Yeah, I guess if the
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: record books, let the record books show it. Yes, he
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: was champion.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: Technically, Drew McIntyre is a former World Heavyweight champion.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: God damn that's true.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: He is, because then we got the reign of Damian
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: Priest out.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: Of him, we got l.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. All right, Moving on, I got left
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: here in my legs. Oh man, two matches left? Which
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: one do I want to talk about?
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: The one that's not going to be the main event.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: Oh, that would be the World Heavyweight Champion, because.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: We know what the main events.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: All right? That is the singles match for the w
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: W Crown Jewel Inut World Championship. That is Gunter the
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: raw World Heavyweight Champion versus Cody Rhodes, the SmackDown undisputed
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: WWE Champion. This one too will have shenanigans. I really
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: hope we have no blood line involved in this at all.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: I don't want to see any blood line involved. I
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: kind of want to see Cody get steered away from
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: the blood Line, like we said earlier, maybe focusing on
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: the feud, inserting himself in between Cody, Brandy Orton and Kale.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: That's where I want to see him. I want to
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: see We've seen him with the Bloodline feuding with them
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: for so long, so long. I'm done. And this whole
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: rumor of possibly him teaming up with the blood Line
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: to help us at wargames, No, no, no, no, this
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: The Bloodlight spent the last two years making your life
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: a living hell, and now you're going to team up
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: with them. I don't think so. I think if anybody,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be Sammy Zane and we'll get to that.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: But I think for this the Shenanigans that we're gonna have,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: I think, besides Kaiser, which that's a given. I see
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: a lot of rumors being discussed about Goldberg or brock
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: Lessnar possibly showing up in what shape or form, I
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: don't know. I can see. I see more likely Goldberg
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: over brock Lessner to set up a possible feud with Gunther.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: I see like Kaiser coming out to interfere and Kaiser
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: being the one to take the spear, and and you know,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: distracting Gunter for a roll up, or I mean, god,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: I don't want to see it end in a fucking
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: roll up, but that's how I could see it ending
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: out of the Shenanigans happening. I see Cody, though, leaving
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: with the the big, goofy looking gauky belt, a huge
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: fucking belt, and then we're gonna get two belt Cody
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: Rhodes for a bit. Uh, it's gonna be rough, but
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: we're gonna We're gonna have to. As much as I
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: think it'd be so awesome for Gunser to leave and
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: be even more dominant than he already fucking is and
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: have He's already stern and I can picture him there
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: holding that world title, but now he has two titles
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: to fucking hold, you know. He maybe he makes Kaiser
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: hold it for him. But just given the Shenatigans we're
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: gonna get, you know, I think we're gonna get some interference.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: Somebody's gonna interfere here and we're gonna get a shitty
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: finish and that's that. Or I could be completely wrong.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: Maybe you guys have something completely different. Dre What are
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: you thinking? One?
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: I think it's rather bold of you to think that
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: these belts are gonna be on TV past this Saturday,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: or past a week from this Saturday. I think whoever
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: wins these belts, they will have them on their show
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: the following week and that will be the last we
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: see of them. But to the match specifically, of course,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be shenanigans because these two guys, who are
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: you know, two of the top stars on your company.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: You're not just gonna have them in a clean one
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: on one match with a definitive winner, like under these circumstances. No,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: not right, not unless there's an actual some actual, real
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: stakes involved in it and a real storyline behind it
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: and somebody really going after a real title. Excuse me again,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: this just a showcase. This is just gonna be a teaser.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, they'll they'll have a good match, but ultimately
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: shenanigans will ensue, and I think it probably will be Goldberg.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: I think Goldberg is gonna cost Gunter the title. He's
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: gonna get his lick back from you know that trash,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: that smack that Gunter was talking at Bad Blood. I
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: think he'll show up h Gunter with a good spear,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: pop out the ring, and Cody will take advantage and
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: get to win. Whether that translates to anything involving Gunter
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: and Goldberg afterwards, I certainly hope not, because I'm good
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: on ever seeing Goldberg wrestle a match again, at least
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: a full match. He can pop up, give us a
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: spear every now and then and move on about his business,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: and I'm good with that. I don't need to see
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: Gunter try to drag Goldberg through a match. I'm good
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: on seeing that. So that's what I think is gonna happen.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: Goldberg's spears, Gunter cast him the match. Cody walks out
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: as champion shows up on SmackDown, says, hey, look at
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: this thing. I want take a good look. It was
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: the last time y'all going to see it, and then
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: he moves on back into whatever's going on with Randy
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: and Ko.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: Uh m hmm, Carlos, are you thinking the same thing
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 4: that he's thinking? Or my fucking scene.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 5: Like like, if there's any yeah, go ahead, no, just
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: if there's anything where the Goldberg interference makes sense right here,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 5: because this is the whole reason we got Goldberg versus
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: Brock again during one of their first early Saudi shows,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 5: and then Goldberg couldn't do any of those jackhammers, and
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 5: then he ended up getting hurt or somebody got hurt
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 5: in one of these times. So and then the way
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 5: Gunter has been talking about Goldberg, it just all makes
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 5: sense because there's no way that this is going to
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: lead to a WrestleMania type match. This is like, no
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 5: one wants to see Goldberg versus Gunter, so and this
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 5: is the only way you get Cody Rhodes actually beating
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 5: Gunter because it's not a clean victory. You can't have
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: like back in the days, listen for you kids that
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 5: probably did not watch any type of wrestling, but when
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: you had the territory champion versus another territory champion, it
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 5: was never a clean victory, you know. And this is
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 5: kind of like how we have to treat it. Like
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 5: even when you had like Anocchi versus Muhammad Ali, like
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 5: you know, they still were trying to convince Muhammad Ali
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 5: that it's not real and that he should lose to
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 5: Anochi and he's like, no, I'm not gonna lose. And
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 5: if this was like one of those actual real matches,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: you know, you're not gonna have guns Her actually say
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: that he wants to lose to Cody, and vice versa.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: Cody doesn't want to say that either to gun There
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 5: So to me and my eyes, the real championship still
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: lays with Cody for the company because that's the championship
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: that Roman had. They had to take away Roman's titles
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: to give Raw a title, and this is the one
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 5: that guns Through won. This is like the bastard title
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: in my eyes. So that's the whole reason why it's
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: going to be, you know, not a clean victory. But
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 5: Cody's got to win because he's the face of the company.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 5: His story has gotten no where since Roman, and there's
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: a reason why Roman Reigns is still going to main
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 5: event a Saudi show. And that's where it stands with me.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: Yep, makes sense.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: And you guys still don't think that this one's going
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: the main event?
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: Fuck?
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: No, you think do you think it will open the show? Uh?
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 5: Maybe maybe? If not that one, then we might get
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: the women's yeah, the tag team.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: It's weird though to think like like this wouldn't be
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 4: the main event, you know this would you would think so,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: But let's the.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: Blood line exists, real main event maybe.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: So when does anything ever main evented over the blood Line.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: I know, and you know what though, like this is
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: almost what we want, right almost, We're almost there, guys,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: were almost there to the full Bloodline reunion.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is under what an are we in? Because
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: didn't un say we're in the bottom of the third
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: who said that?
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: He said like two years ago.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: And so we got this six man tag match we
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: got returning from since WrestleMania, really Roman reigns and the
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: USO's recently reunited Jay Usso and Jimmy Uso versus the
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: Bloodline Solo so CoA, Tamatanga and Tongala with at Or
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 4: Jacob Fat on the side, which is a massive factor
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: in this match. So, I mean, I know, like it's
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: it's hot right now Roman's back, right, but now Roman
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: is a face, right and and we finally got ya.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: We finally got him to say yeat right. It was untelevised,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: but we got footage of.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: Him saying it's literally gonna air Friday, right.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 8: Right right, spoiler for you guys, right, but that but
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 8: that for us in this point in time, this is
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 8: our like avenger a symbol moment, right, that's the that's
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 8: the one we're all waiting for and I said that
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 8: a couple of weeks ago.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: I was like, you know, just that's our Avengers assemble
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: is when he says it, because he's been saying the
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: no ye and he's been leaning into it, you know.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: And and it's crazy things like this. I was talking
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: to a friend who hasn't seen wrestling in many years,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 4: and I was catching him up to the storyline, and
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: I was just like, Oh, well, this is the family
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: and there's this big like civil war within the family,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: and everybody here they're all family members, and like this
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: used to be the og blood line and now this
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: is the new blood line and these guys are fighting,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: but now they're going to get back together. And it's
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: just like I'm trying to explain this all within like
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: five minutes, but it's it's absolutely crazy over the years
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: how much we've built to like how many people from
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: that family Trier and now inserted into this storyline. And
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: we're not done yet. We're not done. Like I I
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: feel like Solo Sokoa and his bloodline are gonna need
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: this win. It would make no sense if they would lose. Here.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: They have the upper hand because they have an extra
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 4: guy you know they have the upper hand because the bloodline,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: the original blood line, is not complete. You're like they're
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: missing the wise Man. Correct, But they're not just missing
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: the wise Man, they're missing Sammy's name. Okay, and give it.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: Time, really missing anything.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: Give it time. I think like he's gonna be the
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: fourth guy.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: But but well, I mean, if you saw this past Monday, Yeah.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: But where Yeah, if you saw raw this Monday, it
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 4: make it seem like I don't know if he will
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: be the fourth man. And and with that said, also
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: where does the Rock fit in all this? Where does
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: he come back into this picture? Now we know that
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: there's gonna be something with him and Cody Rose down
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: the line. I would think that's more towards WrestleMania. But
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 4: as of recent in this civil war between the blood line,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: where does the Rock stand? When does he come back
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: into picture? Has the Rock been to Saudi yet? I
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: don't think so. If we can't get brock Lessner, if
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: we can't get Goldberg, and if we can't get the Undertaker,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: sure is fucking getting Stone called Steve Austin or John Cena?
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: Who else his big star power enough to answer the
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 4: phone and want to come and insert himself into a
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 4: storyline of some kind. But the Rock. What a way
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: to close the fucking show over these saudis right to
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: have the Rock there?
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 5: What's that I said?
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: Or he khalayo? Yeah another one show up?
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, another new bloodline member. I can't even keep
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: track of how many. Yeah, there's so many. So this
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: could just potentially just grow even further. Are we gonna
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: end up getting like a six on six like tag
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: match at you know, war games? Like what is this
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: turning into? But you know, I'm so excited for this,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: just to see the USO's back together, just to see Roman,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: you know, as a face now, like you know, we
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: were at a point where we were just so sick
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: and tired of Roman and people were hating him, and
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 4: now it's like we want Roman. Like you hear the
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 4: crowd saying it seems like a lot of people are
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 4: starting to get over Cody kind of feeling like he's
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 4: getting a little stale as a champion. So I just
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: I hear that a lot from certain people.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: And those are the same people who were saying that
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: Roman were stale and wanted Cody to win the damn
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: Belt And now he got it, and now that Cody's got.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: It, this is boring. Yeah, I block out people like
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: that now. Honestly, the Cody.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: I would even call them Cody. They're just right, just
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: fickle wrestling fans. Yeah, they want one thing. Yeah, they
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: want one thing, and if it doesn't go exactly how
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: they wanted to go, then it sucks and it's boring
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: and his lamee like shut up, let it cook.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, you're telling me that every Marvel movie you've
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 4: ever seen, you were completely satisfied and happy with the
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: direction of your character. Everyone, every movie thor Dark World
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 4: was definitely one of your favorite movies, right up there
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 4: with Eternals.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: Hmm hmmm, you know, shit and fucking masterpieces. I don't
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: know what you're talking about.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 4: Wrestling is always gonna have its ups and downs with
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 4: your your favorite wrestler, you know, like that, Trust me
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: that you'll have times your wrestlers going through a shitty slump,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 4: you know, and their characters just just not getting pushed
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: and out of nowhere. Then they'll be pushed. No, then
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: there'll be a world champion for a while, and then
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: they'll you know, be a jobb or you know, a
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 4: perfect example of a wrestler like that would be Dolph Zigler.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: Dlph Ziggler was an up and down guy, up and down,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 4: up and down, and then then to the point where
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: he finally left and now he's making up for it
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: in another company. Ah. So yeah, I'm so excited for this.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 4: Enough of me talking about it. I think Solos Group's
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: gonna win this. They need it. Dre. Let me let
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: me hear what you gotta say about.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: This, all right, So first off, let's backtrack a little bit. One.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: I was pissed.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: I was pissed that they took the title off of
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: Jay after less than a month. I get that they
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: wanted to free j up so that he could be
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: insert himself in the blood Line storyline, but he could
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: have done that while still being champion.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: I would have loved to see the dynamic.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: Of Jay Jay being in the blood Line as the
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: one with the belt and him checking Roman like, motherfucker,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: how you gonna talk shit and you ain't got no belt.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: I'm the only motherfucker standing in this ring with some
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: gold on. I would have loved that dynamic.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: But yeah, but taking they also took the belts off
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: the tag team belts off the other guy.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, they're freeing up all the blood Line
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: people to focus on each other.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah. They're stripping them of their power. They're becoming mortals,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: all of them.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: Well, they're taking all the gold off them, so that
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: way they don't have to try to juggle two things
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: at once, because you don't want that because clearly whatever
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: this is about to be is about to be going
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: on for the next couple of months, and this is
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: probably gonna be they're sole focused, So you don't want
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: to have Jay solely focused on this while and then
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: holding the Intercontinental title and everybody else is just.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: Like, can I get shot at the belt now? Motherfuck?
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: I'm busy with people just blood lined shit, shut the
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: fuck up. Like so, I mean, I understand why they
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: did it. I just they could have waited a week
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: or two. They could have They could have given me
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: the a Jay in the ring with Roman holding the
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: belt and Roman not holding the belt.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: They could have gave me that moment. I would have
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: liked to have that, but uh, it is what it is.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: Also, Jay and Jimmy finally getting back together last week
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: on smack Down. In that hug, If you didn't feel
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: something watching that man, something wrong with your soul?
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: You didn't feel something in that?
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all stop my heads. I was gone, I was happy,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 4: I was excited.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: That ain't gonna lie. Yeah.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the eyes definitely got misty in that moment. You
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: had to feel something in that moment, and I have.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: I did watch the segment that's set to air this Friday,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: because obviously they apparently after last week's back Down, they
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: taped this week's SmackDown right afterwards, because I'm guessing that
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: SmackDown actually aired was taped early, so last week's episode
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: was on a delay because they were spoilers about last
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: week's episode coming out, Like during the first hour of SmackDown,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: people had already spoiled about you know, MotorCity machine Guns
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: winning the titles. So I'm guessing this is they did
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: a double taping. It wasn't as it wasn't live last week.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: It was probably like an hour or two behind. But
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: either way, I did watch that segment. It is a
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: nice segment. It's dope and yeah, now going into Monday,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: obviously they teased the prospect of Sammy's They teased, uh, well,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: not teased it, but they showed Samy's Ain having a
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: conversation with Solo Socoa while Jimmy and Jay were I
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: guess spying on it or happened to overhear it or
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: whatever you want to scrap it, but they teased that,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: and I will say, as much as I've been down
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: on Sammy's Ain and really could care less about him
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: being involved in this bloodline storyline of returning to it,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: I will say the most interesting thing they could do
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: with Sammy's Ain is insert him back into this on
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: solo side.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: If he just comes back in and he's just.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm so happy to be here, and heay my
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: tribal chief and he's just in on the other guy side,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: and I don't care. Whatever he's gotten him before, a
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: cool deal. But if he comes back in and betrays
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: Roman in them and joins solo side, like say they
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: like more than likely, what's going to happen. I don't
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: think Samy's gonna make it appearance on this show, but probably
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: this upcoming Monday on Raw, we'll probably see one of
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: them confront Sammy, like, Yo, what was what you're talking to?
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: Solo? YadA yadah blah blah blah.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: He'll be like it wasn't like that, YadA YadA, YadA,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: if he told that line like, no, I'm with him,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: I'm really with y'all. I'm with y'all. I'm with y'all.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: I'm on y'all side. He goes into war games on
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: their side, you know, and it's there, it's the four
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: of them. It's Roman, Jimmy, Jay, Sammy versus Solo, Tama,
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: Tanga and uh Jacob. And then in that match, Sammy
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: turns on them. Boy, you cook it with some shit
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: right there. But that's the only way I want to
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: see Sammy involved in this is as a trader, so
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: getting into the match itself. As I said, there will
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: probably be some sort of shenanigans in interference, as all
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: Bloodline matches have, but I don't think it's gonna be Sammy.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think see him inserting himself at all. I
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: don't see Cody getting involved in it at all. I
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: think Cody is done with this Bloodline thing. I think again,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: he has his own storyline involving Brandy and Ko. I
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: think this will probably for the most part, be a
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: straight up match. Eventually we'll see, well, technically they haven't
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: announced what three are gonna be competing from solo side.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 4: I thought I was going based off of the Wikipedia.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 4: It showed that the uh Tamatonga and Tongaloa, oh yeah,
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 4: and or.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: Jacob and or yeah.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: So technically you don't know what three and we probably
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: won't know what three until the match itself occurs.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 4: They've done that before, didn't they where they were kind
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: of like last second, kind of like didn't let us know.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: But and I kind of feel like if it's solo
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: and Toma Tonga and Tangaloa, then it almost seems like
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: it'd be a squash.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: Match because those three just don't measure up.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: Even if Toma Tonga and Tangaloa are you know, former
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: tag team champions, it just don't measure up. So it
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: seems like Jacob has to be in the match just
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: to kind of make it appear somewhat competitive.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: Mm hm.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: But then again, if it's some If that's the case,
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: then it's Toga Loa as the inn affairs get does
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: that you know, does that move the needle anywhere?
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: Does that create any kind of interest?
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: Not really, so then it would seem like that, yes,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: somebody else has to get involved in some shape or
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: form which would seem to paint it towards the Rock
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: in some way, but we still don't know what where
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: the Rock falls on this. We know the Rock is
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: still has his eyes on Cody and his title. We
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: saw last that he did the whole three two one
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: cutthroat thing at the end of Bad Blood, but we
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: don't know if he was directing that, and we don't
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: know what he meant behind that. So could he show
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: up in this match and you know, attack Roman and
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: cost him the match? I don't know, but something's gonna
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: have to happen, because, yeah, I'm in agreement with you
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: that Solo and them have to win this match. Otherwise,
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: why the hell do they run it back at Sir
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: Roberts series war Games? So, yeah, they're soloing them have
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: to come out on top to further this storyline.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: Damn.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: Maybe Sammy does show up in costing the match, but nah,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: that seems too soon.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: It seems too soon.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: No, No, I don't think that's gonna happen because to
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: jump from him talking to him showing up in the
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: match and immediately, I don't think they're gonna do that.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: I think they're gonna because we gotta buy some time
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: between now and Survivor series. There's gotta be some storyline there,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: and I think that's gonna focus around Sammy. So that's
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: why I don't think Sammy will show up, although he
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: may be, I don't know. That's that's damn. It's the
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: thing with this bloodline shit. We always think we know
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen, but more than likely, they almost always
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: swerve us in one way or the other. That's kind
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: of what's kept it so interesting over all these years
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: is how they've managed to.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: Get so much out of this.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: It's by subverting our expectations and throwing swerves and curveballs
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: where we think we're going one way. So I don't
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: know what the Shenanigans are gonna be, but I do
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: know that I'm fairly certain solo and then we're gonna
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: come out on top.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm. Are those what you think is gonna happen?
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 4: Let's hear what you think is gonna happen that?
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 5: Well, well, yeah, this match is not gonna end up
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 5: being a clean match. There's gonna be an appearance at
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 5: the end, but it's gonna be probably because they're gonna
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 5: introduce Hikalo, So we're gonna get Hikalo coming in here.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 5: I know that Dre wants to go ahead and bring
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 5: down sam he's saying, but we all know that Sammy
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 5: is the peacekeeper and Sammy is loved in Saudi Arabia,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 5: so he's not gonna turn there. If he does turn,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 5: it would be like Dre was mentioned, it'd be at
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 5: war Games, but it's not gonna be here, and it
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 5: won't be you know, as much as Sammy is trying
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 5: to talk Jay out of it, you know it. He's
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 5: gonna be there to back up Jay. So he's not
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 5: gonna He's not gonna He's gonna have to turn his
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 5: back on Jay after he did all that to win
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 5: Jay's love over. We got the word Ousi from him
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 5: trying to win Jay's favoritism and win him over to
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 5: get him be an honorary member of the blood line
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 5: in the honorary oose. So to me, character wise, storyline wise,
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: the Samy's ain't turn is not gonna make sense at
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 5: this match. Not whether it happens later that'd be an
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 5: interesting twist, but it's gonna be either the Rock shows
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 5: up and then he sends Hi Khaleo because to me,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 5: you started this blood line, right, I'm sorry if I'm
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 5: going on a tangent, you feel free to come me
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 5: off from any time. But we started this, you know,
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 5: we got Alpha and Sicca and they they just annoyed
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 5: Roman reigns as the tribal chief, you know, but who
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 5: is related to someone who's actually has chief as part
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 5: of their name. Who is the grandson of someone who
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 5: is known as the high Chief? That would be do
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 5: you right? So how does that all happen? Like storyline wise,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 5: it's like all built out for you there, you know,
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 5: like how does Dwyane? How does the rocket passed over?
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 5: So if there's any type of like maneuvering quote unquote
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 5: or any power place for a bloodline, it would have
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 5: to be from the Rock. So the tongas would have
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 5: to be working for the Rock. So eventually that's you know,
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 5: we get hit Leo and and then if I want
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 5: the fantasy book a little bit later, we get like
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 5: maybe at WrestleMania, the redemption of Solo Socoa with the
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 5: original blood line happening, because it's gonna be drawn out
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 5: all the way to WrestleMania. So for this match, that's
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 5: how it's gonna be, you know, the Rocks in the
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 5: come out and then probably distract them, and then we'll
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 5: get the introduction of Hiceleo and eventually this match. Now
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 5: you have your fourth guy for war Games, and now
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 5: we get samysem into the thread. As much as it
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 5: would be interesting for Samy Zain to have a heel turn,
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 5: they're gonna have to go in here and I'm I'm
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 5: gonna it's gonna be interesting for that War Games to
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 5: see like the new dynamic, because it's like Jay kind
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 5: of trusts Jimmy, but do you still trust Roman? You know,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 5: even though we heard the rumors, you know that they
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 5: are from the SmackDown that's pre taped, that they're all
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 5: gonna get back together, but they're still gonna have to
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 5: be some type of hesitation, you know.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, not spoiling two much.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: But I think I guess that I'm the only one
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: who actually watched the full six it's a it's a
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: long segment for one, it's like sixteen minutes. Yeah, so
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: it's gonna uh, I'm pretty sure that's probably gonna kick
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: off SmackDown, But not without giving too much away.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: They it's still tenuous between them all. Yeah, like they are.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: They agreed to come back together, but it's not like,
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: you know, oh, we're gonna hug it out. We all
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: buddy buddy and all this that and the third Yeah
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: pretty much mm hmm.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 5: So it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting in how
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 5: they continue to book this. But that's the only reason
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 5: I see that. Like, I guess we'll probably get some
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 5: but the Rock isn't gonna be the main thing, Like
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 5: he's gonna be like the guy pulling the strings. He stilln't.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 5: But I think we'll finally get the appearance of Kalo To.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 5: He's a big seventh foot guy, you know, So that's
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 5: the only way you get to like even out like
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 5: Dre mentioned earlier, like you have Roman reigns in the ulcer.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 5: If the States solo Tama and Tanga, you're you know,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 5: it's like a squash match, like you said, like if
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 5: you throw in Jacob Fatu, then maybe it's a little
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 5: bit more even. But if you get Jacob Fatu and
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 5: then you get the appearance of that, that really will
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 5: like visually and possibly muscle wise, that would definitely tilted
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 5: towards the New bloodline.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, so you think Hukalo would be part of the match.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 5: No, not part of the match that he just shows
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 5: up up.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then going into and then going into war games.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 3: It would be he.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 5: Would be the fourth, the fifth guy or whoever.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: How many even need Usually it's been four shah.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, yeah, you really say that because he's like,
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 5: he's like the most unpolished out of all four of them.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: Which is kind of wild given that him and Tonga
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: La had such a run on the independence scene as
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: tag team champions.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they were good at Gorilla is the destiny?
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: I just don't know, Like, yeah, so I think, yeah,
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: why does he come off as so green here?
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I have no idea. Maybe it's it's not Maybe
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 4: it's promo work, Maybe it's well.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: No, we haven't heard him speak on the mic.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 5: It's just not him in the ring, Isn't he just
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 5: makes it sounds now it's liker? No, weren't they both
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 5: doing it when they came out like at one point?
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe but Tago was the one that
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: first started doing it, which is weird. Togo Lord just
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: seems to be the one that just keeps watching moments
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: or missing spots.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's something like, that's that's the guy I would
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 5: I mean, if you think about it, you would probably
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 5: take him out too. If you get Hiole in there.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 5: You have the Giant and you have the Samoan Werewolf
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 5: and in time the time.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 4: Like we're gonna have to have the Rumble, they're gonna
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 4: have to have their own Rumble.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: There's so many, ye, there continue there will probably be
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: some other match involvement or something.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's so many play out in the Rumble.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: And there's no way, yeah, there's no way Jay's not
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: in the Rumble match itself.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 4: Here's the things. As much as I would love that
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 4: to happen, a bunch of the Bloodline members in the Rumble,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 4: but just think of how many spots in the Rumble
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 4: that will eat up, like just Bloodline members alone.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: Like I mean, I'm okay, I'm okey, okay with that.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 4: Honestly, it's just like a bloodline ruble.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 3: Not a blood line rubble, but I mean I'm okay
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 3: with it would.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 4: Turn into that at some point, it would just dwindle
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 4: down to just like oh shit, now, I mean maybe
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 4: in the middle of the Rumble or whatever. It's like, oh,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 4: now we just have like bloodline members, Like.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: I'm okay with it, as long as it's not like
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: the final four are all Bloodline Like, it's not the
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: final four is like j Roman, Solo, and Jacob, Like,
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: don't make that the final four. But I'm okay with
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: the story with blood Lines with another chapter of the
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: blood Line saga playing out in the Rubble Match itself,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: because that introduces a lot of other elements as well,
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: because not only are they going to be in there
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: with them with each other, they're also being there with
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: all the mother motherfuckers that they have hassled and harassed
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: over the years that are gonna want to get they
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: licked back as well. Yeah, and that's on both That's
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: not just you know, Roman in them. That's people don't
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: want to get their lick back on Roman. People don't
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: want to get they lick back on the USOS. People
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: don't want to get their licked back on, you know. So, yeah,
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: there's a whole lot you can do with inserting them
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: into the rumble match as opposed to her trying to
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: make another match for them outside of it.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 4: So, guys, overall, what would you say is your most
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 4: anticipated match for this card? Is it the blood Line match?
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 3: For me?
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then just the and just like interest in
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 5: the Bronson Reid and the Randy and Kevin Owens, just
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 5: because I want to. I want to see if I'm
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 5: right on where they're going with this. M Like, I
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 5: already know where the blood Line one is going. I
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 5: just told you guys, that's for sure how it's gonna go. Yeah, Like,
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 5: for me, that's the only way it makes any sense.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 5: Even though Dre once again is putting out false narratives
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 5: that Sam is going to turn, but.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 3: No, I did not say Sam. I said is going
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 3: to turn eventually.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: My money's on turning and the war Games not match
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: not here.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 5: But as much Sammy hate that Dre puts out there,
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 5: that's you know, as much as I like, I like,
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 5: I'm very interested in that because I I the Bloodline
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 5: interests me more as far as that's concerned. The storyline
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 5: we've been we've been founding the storyline. It's the longest
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 5: storyline since like twenty twenty twenty one.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 4: So.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 5: This is the most that we're invested in in the storyline.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 5: And now it's like evolving and then you know, Bronson
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 5: Reid is the is he the new Earthquake? Is he
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 5: the new monster? Will find out? And Brandy and Kevin,
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 5: you know who's going to be the one that takes
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 5: that descend into you know, self paid and you know,
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 5: building up all that hate to light shouting go against
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 5: Cody because they both have that in them the character.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 4: Absolutely do.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, aside from the obvious bloodline match,
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: I think probably the next one I'm most interested in
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: is I would say, yeah, Randy Yorton and Kevin Nowins,
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: just because that match could genuinely go either way as
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: far as the outcome. And then after that, I would
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: say probably honestly Live Morgan and Naia Jacks. I'm just
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: curious to see how they're gonna play that one out.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 4: Actually, you know what, I'd have to agree with you,
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty curious of note that outcome as well out
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 4: of the uh between that and the the men's curious
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 4: about that. But I don't know, I'm pretty excited. It's
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 4: a nice thing to do for me in the middle
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 4: of my Saturday because I had nothing else really planned
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 4: after work, so sit on the couch watch this in
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 4: the middle of the day. It is kind of weird though,
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 4: because like when it's done, you're like, now, what can
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 4: I guess?
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: I get my whole evening for well night, Yeah, for you,
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna have to remember to stay off social
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: media while I'm at work Saturday, because if Saturday afternoon
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: gets slow for me, usually that's when I'm just on Facebook,
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna have to remember to stay off of
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: it so that I don't get spoiled. Because yeah, well,
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: I won't watch this probably until eight o'clock Saturday night,
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: because you're gonna be working eight to five, and after
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: that I'm going to the gym. Then I'll grab something
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: to eat on the way home, then come home and
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: put on the Poe nice.
• 1:49:42
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• 1:49:48
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• 1:50:06
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• 1:50:23
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