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DeVon Franklin Chats Ruth & Boaz Movie · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 2: my first guest on my new series is somebody who
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  Speaker 2: I have watched for many many years. He not only
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  Speaker 2: is a faith based man, he is a powerhouse executive
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  Speaker 2: in Hollywood, but he's also like a very nice person,
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  Speaker 2: a cool person, and we are here to talk about
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  Speaker 2: his new film, his new projects, in addition to how
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  Speaker 2: faith has manifested into everything he has going on today,
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  Speaker 2: his cup run it over, give it up for the
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  Speaker 2: One the Only Demon Franklin. Thank you man, glad to
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  Speaker 2: be here. We haven't seen each other in a little
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  Speaker 2: wild minute. You look refreshed, you look great. You've been
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  Speaker 2: in the gym a little bit. You know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 2: You know, I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean how much you bench pressing? Brother?
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  Speaker 3: Like, you know what, I don't even know. I haven't
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  Speaker 3: really tested a while. I mean, my max I think
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  Speaker 3: is like two ninety five. That was like one rep.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, so you know,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't do that all the time.
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  Speaker 1: You want to hear my max? What's your max? Ninety five?
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  Speaker 1: Come on, Carlo, get your point. You don't trying to.
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  Speaker 1: But that's all I got.
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  Speaker 2: But now listen, I am so grateful to have you
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  Speaker 2: sitting here. You're a busy guy. And one thing that
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  Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people really do was
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  Speaker 2: the fact that I used to watch your sermons all
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  Speaker 2: the time online and when I moved to Los Angeles
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  Speaker 2: when one church at the time was of course passed
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  Speaker 2: by Terrey Roberts and his lovely wife, you know, pastor
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  Speaker 2: Sarah Jakes Roberts.
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  Speaker 1: You would sometimes be a guest on there.
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  Speaker 2: And you have no idea, sir, how your words, oh brother,
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  Speaker 2: your words of how you applied faith in Hollywood, which
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  Speaker 2: some people may look at as being like oil and
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  Speaker 2: water they mix. And you inspired me so much because
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  Speaker 2: I remember you telling a story about how you got
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  Speaker 2: this job. I believe it was at Sony or it
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  Speaker 2: was at Will Smith's Company and you honor the Sabbath.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that was it Will Smith's, Will Smith's.
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  Speaker 2: Company Overbrooke Entertainment, and you were so nervous because you
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  Speaker 2: were like, I.
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  Speaker 1: Won't get fired, yah, and I get hired.
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  Speaker 2: Talk to me about that story because the reason why
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  Speaker 2: I want to start there, and we'll get into your
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  Speaker 2: recent projects, is because I want my audience to know
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  Speaker 2: how you never allowed your business ambition to ever take
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  Speaker 2: over your faith.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, you know.
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  Speaker 3: So for me, you know, it's like I came to Hollywood,
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  Speaker 3: or at least I had the vision to go to
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  Speaker 3: Hollywood and the dream to be in Hollywood when I
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  Speaker 3: was a teenager, and it was just you know, my
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  Speaker 3: father died when I was nine years old of a
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  Speaker 3: heart attack when he was thirty six, and yeah, I know,
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  Speaker 3: me's so young, and it was my mom didn't have
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  Speaker 3: money for therapy, so it was a combination of watching
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  Speaker 3: movies and going to church that really became my therapy.
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  Speaker 1: And that combination was just so powerful to me.
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  Speaker 3: I just was like, Wow, I really want to be
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  Speaker 3: a part of this industry that you know, makes these
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  Speaker 3: movies that can bring hope and can bring you know.
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  Speaker 1: A sense of peace. And so that's what I pursued.
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  Speaker 3: Now, my pursuit was always financed by my belief that
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  Speaker 3: or my curiosity if God was actually in it. Sometimes
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  Speaker 3: we have an idea and we don't know if God's
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  Speaker 3: in it. Maybe it's just our idea and the only
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  Speaker 3: way to find out is to get confirmation. And so
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  Speaker 3: I went to Los Angeles, went to the University of
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  Speaker 3: Southern California, and when I got that first internship interview,
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  Speaker 3: which was for the company that managed Will Smith, they
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  Speaker 3: asked me at the end of the interview, is there
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  Speaker 3: anything else you want us to know? And so I
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  Speaker 3: told him, I said, well, look, you know, I observed
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  Speaker 3: the Sabbath, so of taking this internship would require me
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  Speaker 3: to work on the Sabbath, I won't take it.
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  Speaker 1: Now. At the time, I wasn't even it wasn't even
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  Speaker 1: like a thought to me.
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  Speaker 3: It was just like, this is my conviction and I'm
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  Speaker 3: not going to compromise this for this opportunity. And what
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  Speaker 3: happened inadvertently was one they said, okay, no problem. But
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  Speaker 3: what it also did was it gave me confirmation like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I can honor God and still pursue this career and
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  Speaker 3: he will open doors instead of Sometimes we think that
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  Speaker 3: compromise is the key that opens the door. And yes,
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  Speaker 3: compromise can open a door. The question is where you
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  Speaker 3: supposed to walk to that door to begin with. And
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  Speaker 3: when we don't compromise on whatever our belief may be,
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  Speaker 3: whatever our conviction about how who we are and how
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  Speaker 3: we work, when we don't compromise that and the door
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  Speaker 3: still opens, then we know that's a door that is
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  Speaker 3: meant for us to walk through. But if we know
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  Speaker 3: that we had to compromise who we were, compromise our
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  Speaker 3: belief system, compromise our identity to get in the door,
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  Speaker 3: is that really God or is that us? And for
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  Speaker 3: me as it related to Hollywood, you know, not compromising
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  Speaker 3: and being a man of conviction was the key that
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  Speaker 3: unlocked the door. And the interesting thing about Hollywood is
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  Speaker 3: that just staying that path And now, I mean I
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  Speaker 3: got my internship about thirty years ago, so you know,
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  Speaker 3: just staying the path, doors just continue to open. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, as long as I'm adhering to who I
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  Speaker 3: am and my foundation And the other thing I would
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  Speaker 3: say is you can only be tempted by what you want.
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  Speaker 3: So temptation is not in my experience and my point
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  Speaker 3: of view, it's not a general thing, because what may
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  Speaker 3: be tempting to you is not tempting to me.
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  Speaker 1: Right if, right now, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, one of your producers comes in and brings a
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  Speaker 3: piece of seven up pound cake. If you don't like
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  Speaker 3: pound cake, that's not tempting. But if I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: die and I love pound cake, that's tempting. So for me,
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  Speaker 3: I've never wanted the business or the success of in
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  Speaker 3: entertainment to be at the expense of my soul, at
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  Speaker 3: the expense of my peace. So as a result, that's
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  Speaker 3: never been a temptation for me. Now, my own ambition
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  Speaker 3: at times has been a thing where I've had to
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  Speaker 3: manage it. Where I want to be successful for myself.
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  Speaker 3: I want to be the best version of myself, and sometimes,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we get impatient, and I've gotten impatient at times,
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  Speaker 3: and I've had to calm down. But in terms of
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  Speaker 3: like just wanting the business or entertainment for entertainment's sake,
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  Speaker 3: that's just never been something I've wanted. So as a result,
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  Speaker 3: the industry in and of itself has not presented that
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  Speaker 3: level of temptation.
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  Speaker 2: That's very fascinating to me because listen, when you are
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  Speaker 2: in Hollywood, and.
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  Speaker 1: OK, thank you so much, welcome when you're in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 2: I think the biggest perception that people have, obviously the Vaughn,
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  Speaker 2: is the fact of like you know, life, camera action,
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  Speaker 2: the gliss and the glamor. And they also think of
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  Speaker 2: other things that people may think of sin right where
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  Speaker 2: it's alcoholism, addiction and all those things. Were you ever
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  Speaker 2: in a situation as you were growing up in this business,
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  Speaker 2: because a lot of my listeners are people in the
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  Speaker 2: business that you were faced with your moral compass being compromised?
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  Speaker 1: You know where my moral compass was come from? You
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  Speaker 1: know where that was a question?
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  Speaker 3: Not in the traditional sense, you know what I mean, Like,
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  Speaker 3: I've never been in a situation where fundamentally you know
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  Speaker 3: who I am and what I'm about has been challenged
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  Speaker 3: in that way. You know, there have been situations like so,
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  Speaker 3: for example, when I was an executive for Columbia Pictures,
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  Speaker 3: which is a division of Sony Pictures Entertainment. I was
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  Speaker 3: there for about ten years, worked on everything from Pursuit
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  Speaker 3: of Happiness all the way to Jumping the Broom and
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  Speaker 3: the Karate Kid remake.
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  Speaker 1: And Heaven Is for Real.
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  Speaker 3: And while I was there, you know, there was a
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  Speaker 3: project that they wanted me to work on, and I
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  Speaker 3: was like, well, no, I don't believe in this project.
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe in these portrayals.
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  Speaker 3: If I have an opportunity to give notes and help
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  Speaker 3: improve these portrayals, then great, I'm happy to be a
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  Speaker 3: part of it. But you know, on the excuse me,
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  Speaker 3: on the surface, no, I said, this is not something
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  Speaker 3: that aligns with who I am. It's not something that
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  Speaker 3: I believe in. And I was pretty honest about that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and they were like, okay, no problem, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and they found some other executives to work on it, because,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you really, from a Hollywood studio standpoint, do
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  Speaker 3: you want people that believe in the material to work
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  Speaker 3: on the material because they know how to push that
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  Speaker 3: material along and ultimately it made. But no, I really
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  Speaker 3: haven't had that kind of you know, moral dilemma that
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  Speaker 3: has been presented to me in my journey. And I
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  Speaker 3: know that might, you know, sound kind of crazy that
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  Speaker 3: that hasn't happened, but it just hasn't. It's just, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I've been following the path, staying on the path, committing
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  Speaker 3: to the process, and this is where the process has
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  Speaker 3: led me. And I think also, what sometimes I think
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  Speaker 3: has happened in my career is being upfront about just like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: this is who i'm, this is who I.
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  Speaker 1: Am, this is what I'm about.
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  Speaker 3: I think it keeps things out, you know, and it
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  Speaker 3: also then allows things in that align with that. And
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  Speaker 3: so I think there's something about me just being very
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  Speaker 3: clear from the beginning that you know, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: any people just know that, and so as a result,
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  Speaker 3: certain things aren't even broad you know, certain certain opportunities
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  Speaker 3: or experiences aren't.
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  Speaker 1: Even presented, you know.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, sometimes I look back, say, wow, that's interesting
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  Speaker 3: that I know I haven't experienced what you may traditionally
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  Speaker 3: think a quote unquote mortal moral dilemma would be.
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  Speaker 2: No, I can relate to you when it comes to that,
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  Speaker 2: and I agree with you, because when you show up authentically,
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  Speaker 2: you know, there's this saying that if you're not invited
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  Speaker 2: to the party, it is because you're not meant to
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  Speaker 2: be there, because they know you don't get down like that.
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  Speaker 1: There it is right, So I agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was the fact that you and listen,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want people to really negate the power of
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  Speaker 2: your self that you have as somebody who said, if
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  Speaker 2: I'm not able to honor the Sabbath, I can't take
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  Speaker 2: this job, you know, because some people say, well, they
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  Speaker 2: got to know that I do that, you know, sort
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  Speaker 2: of like hide it. But it was the fact that
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  Speaker 2: you allowed your authenticity to be shown first and foremost.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's the reason why God, amongst other reasons,
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  Speaker 2: has blessed you so fruthfully in your purpose, in your mission.
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  Speaker 2: One of the movies you've done recently, I want to
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  Speaker 2: say it was last year, was on Hulu with Evil
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  Speaker 2: Long or Blame It Not Devn Franklin, And if you
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  Speaker 2: guys haven't watched Flame Hot, it's an amazing story about
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  Speaker 2: this man who pretty much started Cheetos, you know, Cheetos,
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  Speaker 2: And it's an amazing story on faith, is an amazing
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  Speaker 2: story on what I always believe, Devon is God gives
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  Speaker 2: you the vision and sometimes the vision no one else
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  Speaker 2: can see. And the reason why I have studied a
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  Speaker 2: lot of your sermons over the years is because I
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  Speaker 2: always felt that outside of you, and you know pastor
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  Speaker 2: Terrain Silver Jakes, I always felt that there wasn't somebody
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  Speaker 2: who understood what it's like to be a faith based
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  Speaker 2: man in this business because sometimes you're put into situations
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  Speaker 2: where people want you to behave a certain way or
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  Speaker 2: act out a certain way, and most importantly may not
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  Speaker 2: just understand your desires. Because tell this day, my father
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  Speaker 2: has no idea what is that I do. He's like,
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  Speaker 2: I see my son on TV and I'm happy he's.
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  Speaker 1: Living right, right, right right.
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  Speaker 2: But your practices has always felt that you were informing
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  Speaker 2: generations of utilizing your faith for what that mission may be.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I flame my Hosts to Me is
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  Speaker 2: one of the best, one of the best films you've
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  Speaker 2: ever done.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you talk to me about advice.
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  Speaker 2: That you would give people who do want to whether
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  Speaker 2: it's in Hollywood or it can be any place in
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  Speaker 2: the world when it comes to the fact that they
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  Speaker 2: sometimes feel like.
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  Speaker 1: Did God forget about me?
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  Speaker 2: No one understands me, No one gets my vision, no
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  Speaker 2: one understands my mission.
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  Speaker 1: Is it meant for me to pivot to something else?
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  Speaker 2: Or is it meant for me to be steadfast and
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  Speaker 2: to make sure that I continue to develop the relationship
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  Speaker 2: with God so that I'm hearing his voice versus the
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  Speaker 2: noise of the background.
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  Speaker 3: M hmm. Yeah, okay, So let's unpack it. So when
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  Speaker 3: you think about like okay, having a dream of desire,
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  Speaker 3: working towards it, but not seeing the fulfillment of it.
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  Speaker 3: So what happens is God gives us, I believe, an
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  Speaker 3: idea of what we're supposed to do, glimpses. We may
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  Speaker 3: not see the whole picture, but we see glimpses. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: this is I see, you know, for me, I see
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  Speaker 3: myself working in this business. So God gives the vision,
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  Speaker 3: and then what happens is the temptation and many of
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  Speaker 3: us fall pray to it. I know I have at
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  Speaker 3: times is believing that we have to make the vision happen,
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  Speaker 3: and that we own the timetable for the vision happening.
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  Speaker 3: And so when we're trying to make it happen, and
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  Speaker 3: when we feel like, Okay, well I've been doing this
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  Speaker 3: for five years and it hasn't turned over yet, or
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  Speaker 3: I've been doing this for ten years, well God looks
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  Speaker 3: at eternity and he's like, well, what's time Your ten
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  Speaker 3: years is just a blip on the radar, and I'm God,
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  Speaker 3: so I know when it's meant for you to unleash
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  Speaker 3: or become who I created you to be in the earth.
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  Speaker 3: So part of the steadfastness is taking the ownership off
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  Speaker 3: of the manifestation and and and the timeline for such.
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  Speaker 3: So you look at even like you know, let's go
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  Speaker 3: to the Bible. You look at David. He was annoyed
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  Speaker 3: to king to be the next king. He didn't go
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  Speaker 3: sit on the throne. He went right back to tending
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  Speaker 3: the sheep. There was that in the Bible. There was
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  Speaker 3: there was no record. There was no conversation after that.
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  Speaker 3: And after he was a noiady to be next to
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  Speaker 3: be the next king, there was no conversation. But he
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  Speaker 3: never said well when am I going to be king?
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  Speaker 3: That wasn't even the focus. His focus was how can
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  Speaker 3: I be of service? And him his desire to be
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  Speaker 3: of service put him on a path that ushered in
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  Speaker 3: him ultimately ultimately being the next king. Why is that important?
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  Speaker 3: Because so often we put so much energy and effort
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  Speaker 3: into forcing this dream to come to fruition that we
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  Speaker 3: don't have control over. I started working in Holley when
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  Speaker 3: I was eighteen. I knew at eighteen years old that
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to have my own production company. It took
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  Speaker 3: eighteen years before I was able to open my company.
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  Speaker 3: Eighteen years of showing up, being you know, teachable, learning
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  Speaker 3: the business, building my character, building my integrity. So by
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  Speaker 3: the time that I, you know, it was, it was manifest.
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  Speaker 3: By the time the dream happened, I was able to
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  Speaker 3: handle it. So I share all that to say, if
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  Speaker 3: somebody is in a season of impatience, I would say,
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  Speaker 3: don't do that to yourself. When do you know to pivot?
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  Speaker 3: You may never need to pivot. Do what you need
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  Speaker 3: to do to keep the lights on, pay the bills.
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  Speaker 3: But if you have a dream, keep pursuing it, keep
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  Speaker 3: working at it. Why not and guess what what if
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  Speaker 3: it never happens, If you've made the commitment to be
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  Speaker 3: of service and to have a great life, you will
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  Speaker 3: have a great life. And maybe you say, okay, well
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  Speaker 3: that's a dream that you know. I had fun working
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  Speaker 3: on it, but it never turned out to be what
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was going to be. And that's okay,
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  Speaker 3: because here's what I did with my life. And so
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  Speaker 3: for me, it's really about that perspective. You know, at
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  Speaker 3: times when things were not moving at the pace I wanted,
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  Speaker 3: I had to find other things to really give me
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  Speaker 3: outlets for creativity. So when I was working, you know,
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  Speaker 3: as an executive, you know, it's like, Okay, that executive
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  Speaker 3: path isn't necessarily.
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  Speaker 1: A fast path.
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  Speaker 3: It's you know, it's a steadfast, fast path where you
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  Speaker 3: just have to take your time and you know, you
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  Speaker 3: have to wait your turn and all of these things.
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  Speaker 3: And so for me, what I didn't want to do
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  Speaker 3: is I didn't want to put all of my joy
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  Speaker 3: in my happiness in the Hollywood basket. I believe that
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  Speaker 3: God was going to deliver the company at some point,
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  Speaker 3: but at the time when I was an executive, I
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  Speaker 3: didn't know when.
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  Speaker 1: But I also knew that if I put all my.
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  Speaker 3: Happiness in this job and in this industry, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: going to be very happy because then my happiness is
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  Speaker 3: going to be subject to what happens and what doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 3: And then that means I'm not actually the keeper of
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  Speaker 3: my happiness. I'm actually outsourcing my happiness to circumstances and
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  Speaker 3: situations and people that what about on Monday they loved me,
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  Speaker 3: but Tuesday they hate me. If my happiness is contingent
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  Speaker 3: on them, then I'm never really going to be happy.
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  Speaker 3: So what I started to do was to find while
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: I'm still working, still doing the job, still learning how
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: to tell great stories, I started to do other things.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: One of those things was preaching. I was like, Okay,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: preaching is a good outlet for me. It's a good outlet.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: I can express myself, I can express my creativity. I
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: can help people, you know, it was great. Okay, writing books, okay, great,
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: I can write books. I can you know, help, I
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: can give advice. Those were things that God allowed me
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  Speaker 3: to have the opportunity to do while I stayed committed
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: to what I believed he was going to do. So
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: I would encourage anyone that is, you know, struggling or
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: wondering should I pivot?
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Should I not?
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: I would say, the dream was never meant to depress you.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: That's not the design.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Of the dream. The dream was never meant It.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Was never meant to depress you. If anything, the dream
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: was meant to excite you. That God gave us that
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: should be a source of excitement.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, And that's when you can identify you on
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: the right path exactly because it's like, oh, this is exciting.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: I mean not be exactly where I want to be,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: but I'm learning, I'm making progress. This is exciting. Every
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: time I think about it, I get excited. To me,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: when we think of the dream and we get depressed,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: it's because we're putting too much on the dream we
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: are in. We're imposing our will on that dream. Let
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: that dream be what it is, a source of vision,
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: a source of excitement, a source of direction.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: And enjoy the.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Process because ultimately the process is the result. Meaning you
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: can get to a result, but if you didn't enjoy
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: the process, you're not going to enjoy the result. You
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: have a you know, dynamic production company, and you know
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: your you know, dynamic talent, and have the podcast and
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: all of the things. But leading up to that, if
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: you didn't find peace, enjoy in the process, you get
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: to this moment and then this moment you can't enjoy
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: any of it because you and you weren't practicing that.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: And if you think the destination is going to be
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: the source of fulfillment, then what happens is when you
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: get to that destination and it doesn't fulfill you the
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: way you thought it would, you then you don't know
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: what to do because you're like, I've struggled, I've given
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: all my life for this, and I thought this was
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: going to produce this feeling and I got this and
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: it didn't. Why Because the feeling, the practice of that
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: good feeling is something that we got to work on
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: right now. Doesn't matter how much money you got into
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: bank account, it doesn't matter what kind of job you got.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: All of us have happiness, love and enjoy within us
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  Speaker 3: right now. How do I know? Because right now, if
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: somebody listening, and let's say someone came to somebody watching
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: this as they're watching it and say, hey, here's a
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: check for a million dollars, what's going to happen?
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: That person is probably gonna be very happy? Well, where'd the.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Happiness come from? What is in the Was it in
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: the check or was it in our response? If it's
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: within our response, that means it's already within us. So
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: then we are the ones that determine when we produce
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: happiness and when we produce joy, and when we produce fulfillment.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: So my belief is work on producing that right now,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: because the more you find your joy in whatever you're doing,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: the more joyful the process and the more joyful the result.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: So anyway, it's a long ends zero question. I mean,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Listen's sen I need a collection plate because.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I mean give me the cash apt to tie my temple.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: You know, you do talk about service, and that's the
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: reason why I'm so happy for you. You have a
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: multi year deal with Tyler Perry. Yes, some who's a
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: friend of mine as well. And one thing I know
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: about mister Perry because he said to me, you call
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: me mister Perry, and I'll tell you to call me Tyler. So,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: mister Perry, I'm waiting for you to give me. I
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: call you by your first name, so I won't tell you.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Give me the permission what you're able to call him Tyler.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: You are of service to not only the industry. What
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I love about the partnership to me is the fact
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: that it shows that two powerhouses can work together on
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: the common goal of producing movies and television. You have
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: a new film that is coming out tomorrow called Ruth
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: and Boas And what in case there's somebody who has
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: not read their Bible, explain to us the story of
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: them and what we can expect from this film.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Well, I'll start with the expectation this film is going
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: to be your new favorite love story. It is so good.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Felicia Rashad is in it. She plays the kind of
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: matriarchal character called Naomi. Ruth is played by Sorea and
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Boas is played by Tyler Lepley. And when you see
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: these two on screen, it is nothing but pure magic.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: And the story is really about Ruth. You know Ruth
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: if you go back to the scripture, you know she's
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: a woman who's lost her mate and she goes on
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: a journey back to the.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Homeland of Naomi.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: And Naomi originally is like, no, I don't want you
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: to come with me, but Ruth says, no, I'm supposed
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: to help you. And so she goes back to her
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: homeland and Ruth has to find a way to provide
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  Speaker 3: for her in Naomi, and so she goes out to
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  Speaker 3: get a job and she finds herself working in the
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: field that is owned by Boaz and because of her
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: work ethic, he takes notice of her and then he
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: starts to get to know her. And the thing about
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Ruth in our film is that she comes from a
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: very difficult background. You know, she was put in the
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: foster system. Her mom abandoned her when she was a
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: young child. She was in the foster system. She was
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: bounced around a lot. She you know, had a voice,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: and so she found herself on the Atlanta music scene.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: But there was something in her spirit that did not resonate,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: and she felt like every time she led someone in
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: to her heart, there was always a tragedy or something
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: difficult that happened. So when she meets Boaz in our film,
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: she's just there to work. She's working in his vineyard.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: She's just there to work and go on about her business.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: But he sees a light in her and he wants
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: to get to know who she is. But initially she's
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: very resistant because she doesn't know she can trust it.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: There's something about him that just seems too good. And
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: over the course of the film you start to see
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  Speaker 3: her let down her walls and him also find a
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: safe space in her. And then there's a you know,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: there's some dynamic where her past comes to haunt her
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: and her and Boaz had to figure out how they're
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: going to deal with it.
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  Speaker 1: But this is a story that is rooted in the word.
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  Speaker 3: The Book of Ruth, you know, is one of the
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: most you know, famous books in the Bible, and this
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: story has stood the test of time. Because what I
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: find so beautiful about the story, which is why I
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: wanted to make this movie. There's a lot of people,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: you know, are out here looking for love. And when
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: I looked at the story, I said, Oh, this is fascinating.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Whenever we talk about Ruth or Boaz, you know, in
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: the church, it's like, oh, go find your Boaz, like
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: that is like every black church in the country, you know.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: But the thing about this is Ruth nor Boaz went
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: looking for love.
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  Speaker 1: That's not what happened.
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  Speaker 3: Ruth made a commitment to Naomi to be of service,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: and as she fulfilled that commitment, the reward was her
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: being blessed with love. Boas wasn't looking for love. He
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: was there trying to be a good steward over the
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: blessing that God had given him in the form of
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: the fields and the things that he owned, and right
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: there he didn't have.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: To go looking. God brought her to him.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: So when you see this movie, you see two people
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  Speaker 3: that the only thing they have to do is to
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: be open to love.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: They don't have to look for love.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: And I wanted to do a movie with this kind
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: of message because I see so many people that are
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: depressed and frustrating and angry and just wondering, you know,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: when's my turn and why not me? And what I
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: realize is that when you're looking for something, you enhance
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: the absence of it instead of living in the presence
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: of it. Okay, you don't have to have a looking spirit,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: have a receiving spirit, be ready to receive love however
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: it chooses to arise. However, what I would encourage someone
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: to not do, and you'll see this in the film, is,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: you know, don't stop living your life. You know, don't
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: stop find out what is the greater good for you
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: and commit to that, commit to being of service, commit
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: to finding the value in your life. Enrich your life
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: right now through commitment and service. And I believe that
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: when we do that, when love does show up, we
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: actually actually have more to give and we don't overburden
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: the relationship by trying to get that person we're in
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: relationship with to do something for ourselves that we don't do.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: So if I'm looking for love and I find you know,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: my wife Maria, if I find her, let's say before like,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: you know, what I get I find her, and I'm
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: not practicing loving myself, I'm not practicing contentment. Then what
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do is I'm a demand that she does
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: all the things that I need her to do for
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: me to feel happy. Why because I'm the one that
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: hasn't done the work to know what happiness even looks like.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: So a lot of times we're out here trying to
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: find someone and then we find that person and we
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: don't actually even know what it is. We think it's
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: their job to make us happy. No, happiness is inside job.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: And so when you see this film, both of them
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: have to take ownership of that happiness and that love,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: and then when they come together, they have something to share.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: And that, to me is when people see this film.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: What I'm excited about is that it shows it in
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: such a beautiful, tender, loving way, in a way that
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen in a love story in our culture
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: in a very long time.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Well, I definitely believe in God's timing, and that's why
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I want you all to watch Ruth and boas that's
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: on Netflix. One thing I will say is in regards
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: of God's timing, you do speak about Maria, your wife,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: and first of all, I havn't senior since you got married,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: So congratulations, Thank the Internet with the photos. My audience
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: is largely women from all walks of life. Who what
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: you said about this love story Ruth and Boas is
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: about loving yourself first before you can really go out
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: there looking for love. We all know about a seer
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: a prayer she found Russ. Okay, I want to know
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: what is the Divonne Franklin prayer? Because for you, you were
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: able to find you know, love this time around. And
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: when you speak of Ma Maria and all the things
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: that she provides in your life, your face lights up.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: So for those who may have gone through, you know,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: a divorce or breakup of anything, what advice or.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Prayer I should say? Yeah?
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Should we tell ourselves in terms of being in a
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: place to receive that. Oftentimes what people do, unfortunately divine,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: is they rush into something or they're desperate to get it.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: And when I look at you, you you were a
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: man who was able to take his time in and
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: was able to you know, find love.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know there's a scripture that says created
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: me a clean heart and renew a right spirit within.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: And when you're going.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Through something or you've been through something you just have
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: to pause and acknowledge is what you went through. You know,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: right now, if you walk out on the street and
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: we're in New York and a car hits you, and
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: you get up from the scene of that that accident,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: and you know your leg is bloody, and you know
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: maybe you even have a broken bone, and you start
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: trying to walk down the street as if nothing's wrong,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: people gonna look at you like you're crazy. We saw
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: you got hit. Well, I don't want to I don't
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: want anybody to know. No, we all saw it. It's
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: okay you you can acknowledge that you're hurt, because when
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: you acknowledge that you're hurt, you can then actually get healing.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: But if you are walking like nothing's wrong and then
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: you're just trying to rush down the street, what's going
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: to happen. Your injury is gonna get worse. So when
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: it comes to relationships, when it comes to heartbreak, we
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: first just have to say it happened, and it hurt,
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: and and and sit in that pain, sit in it
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: for a moment, and say, wow, that really Because what
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: we want to do is to rush. Something happens and
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: we don't want we don't want to feel it, we
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: don't want nobody know we felt it. But then we
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: don't actually get the benefit it could provide if we
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: allowed it to teach us something. So sitting in that pain,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: you know when I say, creating me a clean heart
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: and renew a right spirit within, Lord, help me understand
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: what I can take from this pain. What does this
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: pain want to teach me? So then the other part
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: of this was sitting in it. Part of the prayer
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: was that, okay, Lord, give me the ability to learn
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: what I need to know from this. And then the
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: other part is, okay, Lord, the prayer is the same
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: grace in space that you give all of us. Lord,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Please give me the strength to give that to myself.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: When I say grace in space, I mean hey, grace
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: to say, Hey, I'm hurt and I need the grace
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: from God to help me figure out how to move
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: forward and the space for myself to heal so that
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: I'm not you know, saying Okay, well, I've got to
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: go back out here and I've got to present this
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: image and I've got to do this, and I've got
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: to do that because people are expecting this and da
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: dah da da dah. And I have this image and
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: I need to hold the image. And so uh uh no,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: that's a very's that's very tight. That's a very suffocating
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: place to live versus space. Like, hey, you know what, Hey,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: people are going to think what they want to think.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: I'm not worried about their thoughts. I'm not trying to
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: manipulate or manufacture anyone's opinion about me. I'm going through
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: a process where I've got a heal from what I
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: just went through. And in that process of healing, and
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: and part of healing is introspection and and and looking within,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I have therapists.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: And life coaches and you know, journal and wrote, I mean,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: and prayed and studied the world. I did so many
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: things and continue to do these things as it relates
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: to my healing journey. Yet as I did these things,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: you know, the prayer was God truly creating me a
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: clean heart, a new heart, like renew a right spirit
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: within me, you know, Like I don't want my heart
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: to be hardened. I want my heart to stay open.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: I want to learn from this. I want to become better.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: I want to become a better individual, a better you know,
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: human being, more loving, more understanding, more compassionate. And as
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: I prayed that prayer and as I align my actions
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: with it, what began to happen is the prayers started
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: to get answered. Right, And so meeting Maria wasn't the
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: answer to the prayer. It was it was an extension
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: of what God was already doing. So I had started
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: the prayer, you know, years ago, as I was trying
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: to put the pieces of my life back together, and
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: then God would continuously give me answers like, Okay, here's
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: how you're going to feel stronger today.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Here's what's going to happen.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: And then when Maria shows up, going back to what
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: we even talked about earlier, because I had already been
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: practicing that joy, that love, that healing, that commitment to
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: the process, that space and that grace, Maria shows up
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, okay, this is time because it
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: was consistent with the process that started years before I
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: even ever knew she existed. And so for me, you know,
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: when you talk about, you know, the prayer, the prayer
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: is really about the work, you know, and the work
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: is not a burden. It's not a burden, but it
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: does require effort. It does require a lot of effort,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: you know, because one of the things we don't like
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: to do. We like to take selfies, but we don't
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: like to look at each other look at ourselves. We
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: like to take a selfie, but we really don't like
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: to look at ourselves. And when I say look at ourselves,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about we don't like to look in the
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: emotional mirror and identify what's going on. It's very easy
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: for us to point the finger and say, well, it's
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: their fault, or if my boss had been this way,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: or my mama I have been that. We love to
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: point the finger, but pointing the finger points it away
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: from what we actually have control of, which is us
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: coming through what I went through. The only person I
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: could change was me. So I instead of pointing the
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: finger and saying, well, you know, this person didn't do that,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: and that person didn't do this. Okay, that may be true,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: but Devin, what you're gonna do, and allowing myself to
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: look at myself and identify, here's what I did wrong,
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Here's what I could have done better. Here are some
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: areas and opportunities for growth without judgment. Instead of judgment,
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: myself how could you be so stupid? No, no, no,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: We all around this journey called life. We do the
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: best we can, but what we know when we know it,
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  Speaker 3: and sometimes we're gonna look back and say, oh, well
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know what I know now, so I did
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  Speaker 3: the best I could at that moment. So why judge myself?
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  Speaker 3: Why judge yourself? We all go through experiences and have
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  Speaker 3: mistakes and things that we wish we would have done different,
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  Speaker 3: but then we didn't and we get.
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  Speaker 1: A chance to learn from it.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, that was in so many different words,
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  Speaker 3: that was the prayer, you know, creating me a clean
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  Speaker 3: heart and renew a right spirit within me. And I
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  Speaker 3: feel grateful that he has done that and continues to
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  Speaker 3: do it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I can't even thank you enough for that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the words of wisdom and listen, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: I know my audience and your words that you have
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  Speaker 2: blessed us with is going to change their lives because
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  Speaker 2: the articulation of not only the wisdom, but the spirituality
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  Speaker 2: that was felt in this room, you know, from God
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  Speaker 2: through you to me and subsequently to them has really
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  Speaker 2: manifested a breakthrough. So I can't thank you, and it
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  Speaker 2: really has. It really has, and I can't thank you
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  Speaker 2: enough or for being here. I know you're a busy guy,
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  Speaker 2: So rain Dross, make sure to go on your Netflix,
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  Speaker 2: don't go on your auntie's app, don't log in through
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  Speaker 2: her app. We need to make sure this is number
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  Speaker 2: one okay on Netflix, So spend the twelve ninety nine
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  Speaker 2: if you may, and make sure you all check out
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  Speaker 2: Ruth and Boaz that is out on Friday.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much to offer. You're welcome. Thank you,
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  Speaker 1: my brother truly appreciate you.
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  Speaker 2: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
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  Speaker 2: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.
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  Speaker 1: With the Lack Effect Network.
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  Speaker 2: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at
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  Speaker 2: the Carlos King Underscore