Latest / Mac & Bone Podcast / Willie's World: Charlotte FC Falls in Leagues Cup, Hall of Fame Game & Sloppy Joe's
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Allow me to reinroduce myself.
- 0:10Speaker 2: My name is I'm Willpelgic. All right, y'all, it's go time.
- 0:28Speaker 2: It's time for the P man. We gotta bring him
- 0:30Speaker 2: in on the Sloppy Joe Conversation. We're gonna talk about
- 0:34Speaker 2: Tim reems sloppy pass that led to the goal that
- 0:38Speaker 2: probably has knocked them out of the League's Cup.
- 0:40Speaker 3: Not done deal yet. They could use a lot of
- 0:43Speaker 3: help and get in. But man, it was there for
- 0:45Speaker 3: him last night. I had the one Neil lost to Pachuca.
- 0:49Speaker 3: We got Panthers conversations and we got things to do
- 0:52Speaker 3: with the man Willie P. He gets to get back
- 0:54Speaker 3: onto Mike for Charlotte FC big MLS game against Columbus
- 0:59Speaker 3: at the Bank on Saturday, and we do get to
- 1:01Speaker 3: talk about Maxie. My god, he is electric. Willie P
- 1:05Speaker 3: joins us on the Mac and Bone Show.
- 1:07Speaker 4: What's up?
- 1:07Speaker 3: He man? How you feeling morning, guys? How are you
- 1:11Speaker 3: We're doing? Good man? Where do you fall? It's a
- 1:14Speaker 3: it's a uh. It's a debate right now about the
- 1:17Speaker 3: worthiness of the Sloppy Joe sandwich. Where do you fall?
- 1:22Speaker 3: Are you a sloppy Joe guy? Or could you do
- 1:25Speaker 3: without them.
- 1:26Speaker 5: Guys, I'm thirty nine years old. I could drop dead tomorrow.
- 1:30Speaker 5: If Sloppy Joe is the last thing that eats that
- 1:33Speaker 5: I eat that greases my palate before I die, I
- 1:37Speaker 5: want to do over.
- 1:38Speaker 1: No, thank you, I didn't know where that was going. Yeah,
- 1:42Speaker 1: that got that got a Hopefully you're okay. I know
- 1:44Speaker 1: the FC walls is tough on you there, but what's hey,
- 1:46Speaker 1: you in there, old baby, You're still a live baby.
- 1:49Speaker 3: What is what exactly?
- 1:51Speaker 4: My age have dropped dead? That's all. That's what happens, all.
- 1:54Speaker 1: Right, Hopefully you hang through this segment because we got
- 1:57Speaker 1: to get through this thing. What what? What is wrong
- 1:59Speaker 1: with the with the old sj.
- 2:03Speaker 5: I just there's five thousand other things I could think
- 2:06Speaker 5: of that I'd rather eat than Sloppy Joe's I could.
- 2:08Speaker 5: I'd rather have a hot dog. I'd rather have hamburger.
- 2:11Speaker 5: I'd rather have chicken nuggets. I'd rather have raisin canes.
- 2:14Speaker 5: I'd rather have something. I'd rather have literally anything else
- 2:17Speaker 5: on the planet than Sloppy Joke.
- 2:19Speaker 3: That's kind of where I'm at is like there's a
- 2:21Speaker 3: lot of good, kind of casual like cheap options.
- 2:27Speaker 5: That might be the worst use of ground beef you
- 2:29Speaker 5: could possibly find not but there's a bad use for
- 2:32Speaker 5: ground beef. But that's probably the worst ground beef. Why
- 2:35Speaker 5: don't you take that ground beef.
- 2:36Speaker 4: Put it into a.
- 2:37Speaker 5: Paddy you and put it on a put it in
- 2:38Speaker 5: between two.
- 2:38Speaker 3: Buns and make it a burger.
- 2:39Speaker 1: Shock yeah, back, yeah, shocking, your elitist mindset is above
- 2:43Speaker 1: a slappy Joe.
- 2:44Speaker 5: Oh shocking that you're on an island with this one.
- 2:47Speaker 4: Bone.
- 2:47Speaker 5: Both the other two people in there in the building
- 2:49Speaker 5: have told you, Yeah, hell no, we won't go sloppy Joe.
- 2:54Speaker 3: We won't go sloppy Joe. Do you think I want
- 2:58Speaker 3: to be in an eyehold these two.
- 3:01Speaker 4: I'm just saying you could just.
- 3:02Speaker 5: Join us all in the you know what, there's other things.
- 3:05Speaker 4: That's out there.
- 3:05Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not looking down on people who eat
- 3:08Speaker 5: the mind.
- 3:08Speaker 1: With Bee on an island by myself, suretless leighing in
- 3:13Speaker 1: a sand or a beach.
- 3:14Speaker 3: That is all sloppy Joe. This dude says, I've always
- 3:18Speaker 3: known that these three were elitist, and Bone was the
- 3:21Speaker 3: real man of the people. So there you go.
- 3:23Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm a I'm here for the common man.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Bone the common.
- 3:27Speaker 4: Man, the man of the people.
- 3:29Speaker 5: The real man of the people is Kyle Bailey eating
- 3:31Speaker 5: Sloppy Joe's or eating us spaghetios every day.
- 3:33Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, there were some Kyle Bailey spaghettio references. Well,
- 3:36Speaker 3: I'm sure hopefully eat spaghettios.
- 3:38Speaker 5: I'd rather eat spaghettios than than man witch or sloppy Joe's.
- 3:42Speaker 3: I would eat spoge I would eat spaghettios over it.
- 3:45Speaker 3: And there there here's a text that says, if you
- 3:48Speaker 3: have ground beef, make a burger or heck makes make
- 3:50Speaker 3: pasta and and have the ground beef in with the pasta.
- 3:53Speaker 3: Yeah those are better uses. Yeah, those are better uses.
- 3:56Speaker 3: All right, anyway, we got we cannot post post this.
- 3:59Speaker 3: Dude's this dude says, forget the sloppy Joes. We need
- 4:03Speaker 3: FC answers. WILLI was not he was not the manager
- 4:06Speaker 3: last night, and he wasn't playing. I just want to
- 4:08Speaker 3: point that out. But let's talk about it.
- 4:11Speaker 4: Pee.
- 4:12Speaker 3: That loss frustrated me. The Maxi conversation will be a
- 4:16Speaker 3: fun one because my god, you can just see the
- 4:19Speaker 3: difference he's going to make, and he made it last night.
- 4:21Speaker 3: But let's just start with the opportunity. They kind of blew, like,
- 4:26Speaker 3: how much does that bum you out?
- 4:29Speaker 5: It definitely does bum me out when you think about
- 4:31Speaker 5: the fact that you're literally a penalty away from potentially
- 4:34Speaker 5: advancing to a quarterfinal and a tournament that you've only
- 4:37Speaker 5: gotten to the quarterfinal in, and you find yourself potentially
- 4:41Speaker 5: two victories away from being in the Contact Champions Cup,
- 4:44Speaker 5: which is the most prestigious tournament in this in this
- 4:46Speaker 5: country outside of you know, your own league play. It's
- 4:50Speaker 5: difficult to swallow. I don't have a problem with Archie
- 4:54Speaker 5: Goodwin taking the penalty. You know, you guys know that
- 4:56Speaker 5: I study this and from the penalty standpoint, you know,
- 5:00Speaker 5: of the options that were out there on the field,
- 5:02Speaker 5: you know, Archie's was probably the best option.
- 5:05Speaker 4: I know.
- 5:05Speaker 5: People will say Westy west unfortunately has missed them as well.
- 5:08Speaker 5: From Cheryl Let's see and I chronicle all these things
- 5:11Speaker 5: that people are going to ask, you know, whether or
- 5:13Speaker 5: not whether or not Maxie should have been the option.
- 5:16Speaker 5: Maxie is not really a penalty taker, guys. He's somebody
- 5:19Speaker 5: who in his career has not taken a lot of penalties,
- 5:23Speaker 5: only three in his career.
- 5:24Speaker 4: He's two for three.
- 5:26Speaker 5: Westy's six to ten in his career taking penalties. Archie Goodwin,
- 5:30Speaker 5: you know, coming into the game last night, had made
- 5:32Speaker 5: all five of his previous penalties so in his career.
- 5:35Speaker 4: So I had no.
- 5:36Speaker 5: Problem with Archie taking a penalty. And as Dean said
- 5:39Speaker 5: last night, you know, there are worse players to abyss penalties.
- 5:42Speaker 4: There are greater players to abyss penalties.
- 5:45Speaker 5: It's not something that is the most preferred option. My
- 5:49Speaker 5: whole problem is I don't like how we still have
- 5:51Speaker 5: these these errors in the back.
- 5:54Speaker 4: Like like you could have played them even.
- 5:56Speaker 5: I would not have been as angry about playing them even.
- 6:01Speaker 4: And winning in penalties.
- 6:02Speaker 5: But the fact that you get nothing out of that
- 6:04Speaker 5: match last night, when you know, quite frankly, Pachuca did
- 6:08Speaker 5: really threaten a lot in the contest and he feels
- 6:11Speaker 5: like you gave them that game.
- 6:13Speaker 4: That's incredibly disappointing.
- 6:15Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a multifaceted conversation because we
- 6:18Speaker 1: could talk about the decision on who kicked the ball,
- 6:22Speaker 1: and then there's the execution part of the PK. So
- 6:25Speaker 1: I do think that you're right based off the numbers,
- 6:28Speaker 1: Archie was the right guy. It was just a it
- 6:31Speaker 1: was just a terrible PK. So the the right choice,
- 6:33Speaker 1: bad execution on the kick.
- 6:35Speaker 5: It was a bad I wouldn't say it was a
- 6:36Speaker 5: bad penalty.
- 6:37Speaker 4: I just think it was for me to.
- 6:38Speaker 3: Say it wasn't It was not far, It was not
- 6:40Speaker 3: far enough in the corner. He made it too easy
- 6:44Speaker 3: for him and a loco. Why did a loco not
- 6:47Speaker 3: try to bend that just curl that thing into the
- 6:51Speaker 3: left side of the goal instead of bringing back across
- 6:53Speaker 3: the goalie Like a Loco's got so much athletic ability,
- 6:57Speaker 3: he's a beast. It's like the technical stuff. Man, is
- 7:00Speaker 3: he going to get it? You know, the final the
- 7:03Speaker 3: final action? Is he going to get that? Ah?
- 7:07Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 7:07Speaker 5: As the instaid, you created the two best chances in
- 7:10Speaker 5: the game, you know, the penalty chance and and the
- 7:12Speaker 5: locos right there at the beginning of the second half,
- 7:14Speaker 5: and you don't find a way to win.
- 7:16Speaker 4: That's that's kind of that's on you.
- 7:18Speaker 6: And and you know, I here's the only other thing
- 7:21Speaker 6: that I've just has nothing to.
- 7:22Speaker 5: Do with the game, but the amount of jeopardy that
- 7:25Speaker 5: you put yourself in this tournament where you know you
- 7:27Speaker 5: basically have to win all three and get the right
- 7:30Speaker 5: goal differential. I mean, you think about the teams that
- 7:33Speaker 5: all were on two wins last night, uh, Cincinnati, Columbus
- 7:37Speaker 5: and Charlotte. None of them got maximum points last night.
- 7:40Speaker 5: It was it was odd to see the jeopardy that
- 7:43Speaker 5: this tournament puts you in.
- 7:44Speaker 4: And I just I don't know. I I know that
- 7:48Speaker 4: they want to do this thing.
- 7:50Speaker 5: They want to do this tournament, and I liked the
- 7:52Speaker 5: tournament in concept, but the fact that you have a
- 7:56Speaker 5: team that basically has won two games and they don't
- 7:58Speaker 5: advance in this tournament, it's just I prob'm feel about
- 8:01Speaker 5: it just kind of feels wonky. And you could tell that,
- 8:04Speaker 5: you know, the only teams that seem to care about
- 8:05Speaker 5: it are you know, the teams.
- 8:07Speaker 4: With big Mexican fan bases.
- 8:09Speaker 5: Like Pub America and others. I just I really wish
- 8:13Speaker 5: they could do it in a way where it feels
- 8:14Speaker 5: like people can get behind it, because you look at
- 8:16Speaker 5: places across the league that no one's going on these games,
- 8:19Speaker 5: which I feel bad about because I just I want
- 8:22Speaker 5: to see the tournament work.
- 8:23Speaker 3: Can't you make it? Can't can't they make it as
- 8:26Speaker 3: part of the season ticket package. I know they're trying.
- 8:29Speaker 3: It's a different competition, so they're trying to make money
- 8:31Speaker 3: off of it or whatever. One of the games is
- 8:34Speaker 3: one of the games. One is, okay, one of the three.
- 8:37Speaker 5: The Pumas game this year was the one that was
- 8:38Speaker 5: part of the season ticket.
- 8:39Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just mad about it all, like the
- 8:41Speaker 3: pep bl thing, like I don't know exactly what he
- 8:44Speaker 3: said to that referee, but apparently like he doesn't have
- 8:46Speaker 3: to kill.
- 8:47Speaker 4: The referee, how good of a job he did, which was.
- 8:49Speaker 3: Terrible, So okay, So he did criticize the referee, was
- 8:52Speaker 3: a smart Alecabaut, like, but does the referee have to
- 8:55Speaker 3: literally red cardon which means you can't play in a
- 8:57Speaker 3: decisive game. Feels like the referee was was a little
- 8:59Speaker 3: sense again.
- 9:01Speaker 5: Didn't he didn't curse the referee, which again makes me
- 9:03Speaker 5: feel like, okay, this guy got.
- 9:04Speaker 4: A little bit over sensitive big time. The whole thing,
- 9:07Speaker 4: the whole thing is just.
- 9:09Speaker 5: I'm just not a fan of of of anything about it.
- 9:12Speaker 4: Some glower back the league.
- 9:13Speaker 3: Play, let's talk about and that'll be Saturday night against Columbus.
- 9:16Speaker 3: This could be a fun one to be at the bank, y'all.
- 9:17Speaker 3: And Matt, I wonder if Maxie gets to start in
- 9:20Speaker 3: this one, Willie. How excited I mean, I have to
- 9:24Speaker 3: tell you, I was really excited to see him. I
- 9:26Speaker 3: was really excited about the signing. I thought there might
- 9:29Speaker 3: be a ramp up period, right because he hasn't been
- 9:31Speaker 3: active in a while. Holy crap, bone set it earlier.
- 9:35Speaker 3: The first touch. It was like three guys on Patchuka
- 9:39Speaker 3: smell you later, man, like, dude, he is gonna toast
- 9:42Speaker 3: him running back in the open field and they can't catch.
- 9:45Speaker 3: He gonna toast some fullbacks, isn't he.
- 9:47Speaker 4: I mean, he's he's uh, he's incredible. Man.
- 9:50Speaker 5: I just even watching him train, you know, the last
- 9:54Speaker 5: couple of days since he's been here, you could tell
- 9:56Speaker 5: this that after a little bit of sauce that he
- 9:58Speaker 5: brings to the table, and we saw it on the
- 10:00Speaker 5: game field for.
- 10:01Speaker 4: The first time.
- 10:03Speaker 5: It is and it is evident that, you know, from
- 10:05Speaker 5: a fitness standpoint, that's probably still a little bit that
- 10:08Speaker 5: has to happen before he's able to get ninety minutes fit.
- 10:11Speaker 5: Maybe the twenty that he got last night can get
- 10:14Speaker 5: him to a point where maybe you get him the
- 10:16Speaker 5: close to thirty or forty five potentially for his second
- 10:19Speaker 5: half appearance against Columbus. That's the only part of it
- 10:22Speaker 5: that I think is a little bit upsetting that he
- 10:26Speaker 5: isn't further along. But when he was on the field,
- 10:28Speaker 5: he was dynamic. I mean, he did enough to win
- 10:30Speaker 5: the penalty, and he's somebody who continues to be that creator.
- 10:34Speaker 5: And right now, Charlott of c needs those answers because
- 10:38Speaker 5: as you saw before, you know, in the seventy minutes
- 10:40Speaker 5: that led up to that, you know, when you don't
- 10:42Speaker 5: have pet Bl on the pitch, you are struggling to
- 10:44Speaker 5: find a creator.
- 10:45Speaker 4: So you know, when you get.
- 10:46Speaker 6: Both those guys together, I think the real.
- 10:49Speaker 5: Thing, that's when the real thing gets unlocked because you're
- 10:52Speaker 5: not gonna be able to commit three bodies to Alan
- 10:54Speaker 5: said maximum with pet Bl on the pitch. You're just
- 10:56Speaker 5: not because if you do that then then your defense
- 10:59Speaker 5: is in peril right now.
- 11:00Speaker 3: Big, So how about pet maybe playing him in behind
- 11:02Speaker 3: a line. I mean, it's just oh, and I think
- 11:05Speaker 3: they can get to Klamati unlocked again together, like I
- 11:07Speaker 3: think they can create for him because he needs some
- 11:10Speaker 3: service so he can get going. All right, I'm looking
- 11:13Speaker 3: forward to with Maxi and we'll have to get over
- 11:15Speaker 3: last night. As far as as far as the Panthers go, Uh,
- 11:20Speaker 3: p man, what did you?
- 11:22Speaker 4: Uh?
- 11:23Speaker 3: Did you? What were your Do you have any conclusions
- 11:26Speaker 3: from the first preseason game, like are you a part
- 11:28Speaker 3: of Haines King Nation officially?
- 11:30Speaker 5: Willie Well, I think you gotta find a way to
- 11:32Speaker 5: get him on the field, obviously.
- 11:34Speaker 4: I think that you know we've we've we've talked.
- 11:36Speaker 5: A lot about how the Panthers don't really have a
- 11:39Speaker 5: legitimate short yardage option on the team.
- 11:43Speaker 6: I think Haynes King could.
- 11:44Speaker 4: Be that option.
- 11:45Speaker 5: I know you can't probably use him like the battering
- 11:48Speaker 5: ram that Taysom Hill does is, but I think there
- 11:50Speaker 5: are ways to scheme him into situations where you can
- 11:54Speaker 5: you can use him, whether it's a third and two
- 11:56Speaker 5: or a third one. I think you feel a heck
- 11:58Speaker 5: of a lot better with him seeking the football to
- 12:00Speaker 5: you do possibly Bryce Young, and also you put in
- 12:03Speaker 5: a package of passes for him too to throw the
- 12:05Speaker 5: team off and keep the opposition. Honest, I think it's
- 12:07Speaker 5: something that is a nice little wrinkle that that Dave
- 12:10Speaker 5: can Allson out to the offense. I also like the
- 12:12Speaker 5: fact that we saw some guys step up, like Ja
- 12:14Speaker 5: seem Reid, who saw a couple of the you know
- 12:17Speaker 5: guys out of the backfield. I don't think those guys
- 12:18Speaker 5: necessarily have a chance to lay the football team because
- 12:21Speaker 5: the Panther running back room is stacked. I feel bad
- 12:23Speaker 5: for aj Dillon, the guy who literally is the Charlotte
- 12:26Speaker 5: bucket list guy.
- 12:28Speaker 4: I don't know if you keep three.
- 12:29Speaker 5: Quarterbacks on the team, if he's somebody who you keep
- 12:32Speaker 5: on the team because of your ability to want to
- 12:34Speaker 5: keep you know, Brooks an eighth chan So I think
- 12:37Speaker 5: it's a I think it was a good first preseason game.
- 12:40Speaker 5: I don't think it was a perfect first preseason game.
- 12:42Speaker 5: I love love that we're going to get to see
- 12:45Speaker 5: a lot of the first team offense, or at least
- 12:48Speaker 5: more of the first team offense than we've seen in
- 12:50Speaker 5: previous preseasons. The fifteen to twenty plays, I said on
- 12:54Speaker 5: Twitter earlier this week when we found that out, that's
- 12:57Speaker 5: an incredible step forward for this team because one thing
- 13:00Speaker 5: that had been frustrating for each of the last two seasons,
- 13:03Speaker 5: it felt like the Panthers had started very, very slow,
- 13:05Speaker 5: particularly offensively.
- 13:07Speaker 6: And I'm not saying that.
- 13:08Speaker 4: You attribute that one for one with.
- 13:10Speaker 5: The lack of opportunity and reps during the preseason. But
- 13:13Speaker 5: I like that they were at least trying something different
- 13:16Speaker 5: outside of you know, getting all that work during the
- 13:18Speaker 5: joint practices, which I know is very very helpful, and
- 13:21Speaker 5: all the coaches said that that's actually more help than
- 13:23Speaker 5: the actual pieces of game themselves, but actually getting on
- 13:27Speaker 5: the game field and trapping it on and and doing
- 13:29Speaker 5: something more than listen to the year piece. I think
- 13:31Speaker 5: it is something that's a step forward for this for
- 13:33Speaker 5: this organization, and and hopefully it leads to a better
- 13:36Speaker 5: start when when the games start to count for real.
- 13:38Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely do you have an uncultured swine or have
- 13:41Speaker 3: you already ripped the uncultured swine? Who's your un cultured swine?
- 13:45Speaker 6: Yeah, the sloppy Joe is mine culture swine.
- 13:48Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
- 13:48Speaker 6: I decided I can't. I can't get down with it.
- 13:51Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
- 13:51Speaker 2: All right, Well, I'll get about it with you.
- 13:55Speaker 3: Wall got bad news for you, guys.
- 13:57Speaker 1: I'm getting together a Swappy Joe meet up one of
- 14:00Speaker 1: these weekends. You guys not involved, do not come and
- 14:03Speaker 1: knocking on swampy Saturday.
- 14:06Speaker 4: We will go. We will go and eat.
- 14:08Speaker 5: We will go and eat burgers with everybody at the
- 14:10Speaker 5: station other than Flounder, because he's somehow inexplicably still hates Hamburger.
- 14:13Speaker 1: That's a problem, right, If that's a take we can
- 14:16Speaker 1: all get against.
- 14:17Speaker 3: I can tell you that right. I'm about being on
- 14:19Speaker 3: an island anti Hamburger island for Flounder, all right, pe Man.
- 14:23Speaker 3: Looking forward to hearing your call on Saturday night and
- 14:26Speaker 3: seeing Maxie back in action. Thank you, brother, Appreciate you always.
- 14:31Speaker 4: Guys, thank you