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  Speaker 1: I thought this was a genius sort of twist because
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  Speaker 1: they're taking these guys like, I'm going to book the system, right?
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  Speaker 1: And now you are the system.
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  Speaker 2: Under the docks. Yeah, under the docks. Buried deep and
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  Speaker 2: we're breaking the locks.
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  Speaker 3: Furniture got clipped, they erased all the shots.
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  Speaker 1: As they cut into docks. Under the docks. Under the docks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, under the docks.
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  Speaker 3: You're under.
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  Speaker 2: The docks.
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  Speaker 1: Here's one of my favorite genres where mainstream reality brain
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  Speaker 1: rot meets actual conspiracy MKUltra research, right? This is something
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  Speaker 1: that you're on Facebook that's just believing every AI meme
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  Speaker 1: that comes across. and your most hardcore uncle that knows
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  Speaker 1: all about the QAnon conspiracies, like, let me tell you
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  Speaker 1: about the John Birch Society one day, boy. All that
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  Speaker 1: comes together in this new series. It's called The New
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  Speaker 1: Stanford Prison Experiment. Brand new, 2026, from Netflix. This falls
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  Speaker 1: under reality TV slash social experiment. I think it's more
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  Speaker 1: reality TV than social experiment. It kind of leans harder.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, hence the Netflix thing. It was produced by
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  Speaker 1: Alfred Street Industries, Jane Lipstitz, Dan Cutforth, and a few others.
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  Speaker 1: It's a six-episode series. They're each about 45 minutes long.
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  Speaker 1: And basically, it's a reimagining of this psychologist named Philip Zimbardo.
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  Speaker 1: In 1971, he did an actual Stanford prison experiment. What
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  Speaker 1: he does in this is he takes a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: college students... And he randomly assigns them as either prisoners
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  Speaker 1: or as guards. They create a mock prison inside the
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  Speaker 1: college dorms. And they plan for this thing to go
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  Speaker 1: on for about two weeks. And it turns out that
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  Speaker 1: people fell into these roles of being prisoners and being guards.
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  Speaker 1: So quickly and started getting abused and being abused to
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  Speaker 1: such an extent that they had to immediately end this
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  Speaker 1: experiment before even one week had completed. So this has
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  Speaker 1: been really, really popular and somewhat famous. There's a really
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  Speaker 1: good movie about it. There's probably been like 50 different episodes.
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  Speaker 1: history and discovery channel documentaries about it it's one of
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  Speaker 1: these like mainstream things you learn about in psychology class
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  Speaker 1: uh right along like the milfred uh experiment where like
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  Speaker 1: they shock the dude this one comes in like the
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  Speaker 1: very next chapter right so i was really excited going
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  Speaker 1: in on this one uh even though i knew it
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  Speaker 1: was going to be some netflix garbage i was still
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  Speaker 1: interested in it so i don't know what were your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts going in.
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  Speaker 4: My thoughts were I don't know what to think exactly.
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  Speaker 4: I like the premise. I think the premise is great,
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  Speaker 4: but then I'm like, are they going to muck it up, right?
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  Speaker 4: Are they going to reality TV this up too much where.
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  Speaker 2: I don't enjoy it?
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  Speaker 1: Plotting the course of this new Stanford prison experiment. So
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  Speaker 1: unlike the first one that I summarized in this one,
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  Speaker 1: they've got 30 different participants. Um, they're going to have
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  Speaker 1: eight guards and they're going to have 22 prisoners and
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  Speaker 1: And this one is happening in an actual prison. And
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  Speaker 1: there's even some scenes when you can hear real prison
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  Speaker 1: things happening on the other side of the wall. It
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  Speaker 1: kind of freaks people out because they hear him yelling
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  Speaker 1: and fighting and all this. So the environment is way
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  Speaker 1: more realistic. Although, of course, since it's a Netflix special,
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  Speaker 1: it's got that reality show. Let's hear their background story.
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  Speaker 1: Let's hear what they're here for. The little producer takeout
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  Speaker 1: kind of things. Like, have you ever seen 60 Days In?
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  Speaker 1: Imagine something like 10 times faker than 60 Days In.
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  Speaker 1: And that's kind of what you got with this. But
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  Speaker 1: it's still... seems like this they're putting people in a
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  Speaker 1: situation where the original experiment can have at least some
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  Speaker 1: sort of an effect although in the back of my
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  Speaker 1: mind i'm watching this too like if you went back
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  Speaker 1: to 1971 and the type of things that you were
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  Speaker 1: allowed to do that weren't being recorded and broadcast and
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  Speaker 1: sponsored by coca-cola and bepsi and all this like They
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  Speaker 1: definitely had looser rules, I'm assuming, in the original Stanford
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  Speaker 1: versus this one where they probably all had like mental
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  Speaker 1: health coaches and they all had like, you know, off
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  Speaker 1: screen sort of like luxuries of life. So that's my
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  Speaker 1: bias going into this. But also, unlike this one. It's
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  Speaker 1: a more diverse group. So it's not just a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of like white guys in college, like college age white guys.
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  Speaker 1: It's people from all different walks of life, different colors, creeds, religions.
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  Speaker 1: It's co-ed. I was like, damn, they got women in here.
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  Speaker 1: What's going to happen when you put a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: women and men together in like a prison experiment? Spoiler alert,
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  Speaker 1: they make all the women the guards, so that never
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  Speaker 1: even becomes an issue. That would have been a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more interesting if it was co-ed prisoners. And then
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  Speaker 1: they also add some safety measures to it. For example,
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  Speaker 1: everyone gets a background check, which didn't happen in the
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  Speaker 1: original one. I assume everyone goes through a mental health
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  Speaker 1: supervision stage. But they also get a safe word. And
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that's the one, bro. Even when I'm
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  Speaker 1: watching 60 Days In and they're like, you know, voluntarily
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  Speaker 1: going into like a real jail and meeting real prisoners.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that at any point you can just be like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, I want to go home and get a burger,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like because of that element. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: any of them are going to have any sort of
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  Speaker 1: like realistic quality to it. And I believe in the
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  Speaker 1: 1971 version, I'm sure that they had a way that
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  Speaker 1: you could have exited it before something, you know, they
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  Speaker 1: ended it. They literally killed it six days in. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know if it was easy as just
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  Speaker 1: being like pineapple. And then it's like, okay, you get
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  Speaker 1: to go home. So in this one, they have that
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  Speaker 1: aspect to it. Um, like I mentioned, there was, there
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  Speaker 1: was six episodes of this one. I'll let you walk
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  Speaker 1: through them a little bit too with me. Cause it
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  Speaker 1: was structured like a reality show. Like who's going to
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  Speaker 1: make it to the next episode.
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  Speaker 4: Um, And that's part of my problems initially watching this
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  Speaker 4: is I'm like, You know that there's these cameras. I
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  Speaker 4: would have liked it a little bit better if we
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  Speaker 4: would have done it and we're like, hey, you don't
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  Speaker 4: know that there's cameras, right? Don't know that there's no cameras.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to interview you. Maybe there's safe words, obviously,
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  Speaker 4: because you're looking for, I don't want to get sued,
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  Speaker 4: but I'd be like, everybody's signing the waiver, bro.
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  Speaker 2: If something happens, it happens, bro.
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  Speaker 4: Just maybe eliminate trying to not get anybody stabbed up
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  Speaker 4: or shanked would be probably the most precautions we take.
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  Speaker 4: But them making it to reality because then they also have.
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  Speaker 2: The warden guy, right?
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  Speaker 4: The guy that is running the... He's really the head guard, right?
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  Speaker 4: He looks actually the scariest out of everybody.
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  Speaker 1: If he's acting, he's doing a damn good job at it.
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  Speaker 1: That dude is a prison guard. He's got every vibe
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  Speaker 1: for it.
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  Speaker 4: And then they have a little board, right, of people
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  Speaker 4: that are analyzing everything that's going on as you're watching
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  Speaker 4: it as well. Like you have the guy that knows
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  Speaker 4: all about the prison system. He's worked it and he's like,
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  Speaker 4: this is how prisons are supposed to be in jails.
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  Speaker 4: And then I'm like, well, what is this supposed to be?
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  Speaker 4: Because I'm like, is this a prison or is this
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  Speaker 4: a county jail? Which is two different things. That's what
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  Speaker 4: I think people misunderstand is that like prison and county
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  Speaker 4: jail are not the same thing. What's happening in prison
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  Speaker 4: is not the same thing that's happening in jail, county jail.
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  Speaker 2: You get some of the same elements, right?
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  Speaker 4: Like you still get people, but you're talking about someone
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  Speaker 4: that might be going 10, 15, 20 years compared to like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: I'm getting a year, three months, four months, five months.
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  Speaker 4: It's a big difference from some guy that's going to
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  Speaker 4: go home in a couple months from a guy that's
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  Speaker 4: never going to leave or that's going to leave in
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  Speaker 4: 20 years.
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  Speaker 2: So that aspect is also forgotten.
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  Speaker 4: I did like the element that they brought the women
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  Speaker 4: and made them guards because in prisons and in jail,
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  Speaker 4: there is women guards, right? And they have to play
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  Speaker 4: a certain role into it. But when they're picking the people, right,
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  Speaker 4: I was very vocal. I was watching this with my
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  Speaker 4: girl and I was very vocal about some of the
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  Speaker 4: people that they were picking when they picked the guards, right?
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  Speaker 2: You got the CEO guy that's like, hey, rah, rah,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to get this.
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  Speaker 1: He's like a motivational speaker CEO at the worst kind.
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  Speaker 4: The worst kind. And then you got an oil rig supervisor.
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  Speaker 4: That's just a hard nose. Like I've been waiting for
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  Speaker 4: this moment. Like you could tell he was like, please
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  Speaker 4: let me hit somebody.
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  Speaker 2: Like he was waiting for that.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, my, my tiny dick was made for this
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  Speaker 1: role right here.
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  Speaker 4: That's exactly the feel that I got. I'm like, this
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  Speaker 4: guy is just one of those fucking bullies. That's like, yes,
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to be this my whole life. I'm, I
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  Speaker 4: want to be in control of people. And so I
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  Speaker 4: am questioning this experiment from the get go. I'm like, OK,
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  Speaker 4: there's all these cameras everywhere. How much can people truly
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  Speaker 4: believe what's going on here? Like, how can they believe
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  Speaker 4: that they're in this system? And are they playing the
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  Speaker 4: role or are they? This is where it kind of
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  Speaker 4: blends for me. I'm not sure. Like if they're actually.
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  Speaker 4: Feeling like they're in prison or in jail or they're
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  Speaker 4: just playing a role to like look crazy. because Hey,
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  Speaker 4: how do I know if I see one of these
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  Speaker 4: guys become a famous actor later or a musician, like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like how they had those MTV shows where
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  Speaker 4: you seen Justin Bieber before he was famous or any
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  Speaker 4: of these stars.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm going in skeptical. They actually get the guards.
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  Speaker 4: They, they, they get the prisoners, they pick out who's who,
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  Speaker 4: and they got two teams. They have the night shift
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  Speaker 4: and the day shift and the day shift.
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  Speaker 2: Is Lil Dick, oil rig guy. He's the leader of that.
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  Speaker 4: Or it seems to be, right, that he's the leader
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  Speaker 4: because they kind of go through the experiment and slowly
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  Speaker 4: progress it, right? Like they're like, okay, now you got
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  Speaker 4: to do this. They're adding elements as you're going. So
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  Speaker 4: at first they're like, okay, we're running the show like this.
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  Speaker 4: And they're kind of picking their leaders just how it goes, right?
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  Speaker 4: The CEO guy kind of just happens to start leading
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  Speaker 4: the night shift because that's what he does.
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  Speaker 2: He's a natural like, hey, I'm going to lead. but
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  Speaker 2: nobody picked them at, in the beginning.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: No one said, Hey, you're going to be the leader.
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  Speaker 4: And then it changed as they're progressing. And they're like,
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  Speaker 4: now you have to pick leaders, like who's running each shift.
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  Speaker 4: And that's where the turmoil kind of like goes in
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  Speaker 4: and you kind of see the aspect of the guard,
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  Speaker 4: which I will say that, uh, In this part of
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  Speaker 4: the social experiment, I'm not I'm not sure that Stanford
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  Speaker 4: was the Stanford experiment was focusing on this. I feel
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  Speaker 4: like they were focusing on different elements. So I was
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  Speaker 4: trying to pay attention to that. And then I started
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  Speaker 4: seeing that dynamics between the the guards. Right. Like so
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  Speaker 4: before they even pick the leaders. There's already an incident, right?
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  Speaker 4: There's two guys, there's a math teacher. And then it's
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  Speaker 4: the other guy that I forgot his name, but he's
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  Speaker 4: so annoying. I think it's like Braylon or something like that.
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  Speaker 4: He has like these glasses. He looks like one of those, well,
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  Speaker 4: Gartha people, right? Like he used to like wear his
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  Speaker 4: hat to the side and he thought he was cool.
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  Speaker 4: Cause he had like a skull cap on and he's like,
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  Speaker 4: I'm fighting the system, bro. I've been in jail.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, bro?
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  Speaker 4: I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: And they already from the beginning are like, we're going
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  Speaker 2: to be a thorn in the sides of the system, right?
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  Speaker 2: That's how we're playing this experiment. and right away when
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  Speaker 2: they they they.
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  Speaker 4: Try to get some uh aspects of going you could
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  Speaker 4: see like the day shift that's the oil rig guy
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  Speaker 4: who's kind of like hard nose and then you got
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  Speaker 4: the the night shift crew which is the ceo who's
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  Speaker 4: like kumbaya let's have these like hey guys he's.
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  Speaker 1: Trying to be everyone's buddy yeah he wants to be
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  Speaker 1: like your friend.
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  Speaker 4: He wants to be everybody's friend and he wants you
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  Speaker 4: to like him he's you could tell that's his like
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  Speaker 4: aspect and he's like oh we're gonna do this We're
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  Speaker 4: going to get people hyped up.
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  Speaker 2: And then he's got it.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to have a guy's day where I'm just
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  Speaker 1: going to read off sports scores. Hey, everyone surprised paper
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  Speaker 1: airplane competition. Everyone's going to make a paper airplane and
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  Speaker 1: see who can go the farthest. Like that was his,
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  Speaker 1: his management style.
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  Speaker 4: And where they really kind of start getting it, um,
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  Speaker 4: amped up as they, the guards go back and all
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  Speaker 4: of a sudden they're like, yeah, um, You got to
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  Speaker 4: do a riot training, right? So they have all this
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  Speaker 4: riot gear in there. I'm like, okay, this is an
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  Speaker 4: interesting layer that they're adding on to it. When they
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  Speaker 4: go to do the riot training, there's two guys, the
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  Speaker 4: same two guys, the math teacher and the weird Gartha kid,
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  Speaker 4: we'll call him.
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  Speaker 2: They refuse to lay on the ground, right? They're like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you're going in there.
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  Speaker 4: You got to listen to our authority.
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  Speaker 2: Do not get up. And when they don't do that,
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  Speaker 2: they're starting to speculate.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, let me go back. I did miss a part before.
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  Speaker 4: The first real incident is where they're.
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  Speaker 2: Arguing with the little dick oil rig guy. And he's like,
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  Speaker 2: that's enough. I'm taking your microwave.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You take the first incidents. They take the microwave away
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  Speaker 2: and they're like, they're like, dang, man, now this is real.
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  Speaker 2: We can't see the time. And like, what are we
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  Speaker 2: going to do?
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, there's another element to that is
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  Speaker 1: that they realize that the time on the microwave is
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  Speaker 1: was off by like nine minutes or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: And one of them was like, Oh, let me, I'm
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: going to go and like, you know, fix them and
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  Speaker 1: go program it. And little dick guy, the, the guard
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  Speaker 1: is like, don't touch that microwave. So now it turns
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  Speaker 1: into like, but, but guy, like, it's the you know
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  Speaker 1: like we want to know what time it is it's
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  Speaker 1: nine minutes off all he did is went and changed
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  Speaker 1: the time so it would be the correct time it's
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  Speaker 1: all that happened it wasn't like he was using it
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  Speaker 1: to you know microwave a cd or something crazy but
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  Speaker 1: because the guard was like well i said this and
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  Speaker 1: i've got authority and since you've just by since you
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  Speaker 1: didn't follow my authority there has to be repercussions right
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  Speaker 1: this is is like literally like four minutes into the
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  Speaker 1: experiment this is already happening so yeah they take away
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  Speaker 1: the microwave for that reason but it was justified they
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  Speaker 1: actually improved the microwave for everybody but since little dick
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  Speaker 1: had made his commandment like he had to see it followed.
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  Speaker 4: And that's where you start seeing the other element of
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  Speaker 4: where it's like okay the guards are on, not on
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  Speaker 4: the same page, the night shift and the day shift.
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  Speaker 4: So when the night shift comes in, they can see
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  Speaker 4: everybody's pissed. Everybody's mad at the microwave is gone. There
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  Speaker 4: are some of the people, the prisoners start kind of
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  Speaker 4: like turning on the guys that like, did that with
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  Speaker 4: the microwave. They're like, dude, you got to take it away.
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  Speaker 4: Fuck you, dude. Like, we don't like you, man. You're like,
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  Speaker 4: you're causing problems. And that kind of seemed like a
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  Speaker 4: real element to me because that is something that will happen.
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  Speaker 2: Like I've seen people, uh, uh, I've, I think I
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  Speaker 2: may have dabbled in this.
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  Speaker 4: Jail life before I, I seen on TV, but I've
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  Speaker 4: seen people fight over like Scooby-Doo movies, right?
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  Speaker 2: Like they're like, put it back on, bro.
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  Speaker 4: Like littlest thing can get people set off. So people
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  Speaker 4: are kind of pissed off at this guy. But then
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  Speaker 4: the CEO guy, he comes in, leads his night shift crew,
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  Speaker 4: and he's like, bringing the microwave back because I want
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  Speaker 4: everybody to love me.
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  Speaker 2: And they're like, yes, he brought it back.
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  Speaker 4: Now they have conflict with the day shift because the
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: day shift's like, hey, man, we took that away. We
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  Speaker 4: specifically told you to not give it back to them.
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  Speaker 4: And now you're undermining our authority. So there's a little
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  Speaker 4: power struggle within the guards, which I found a little
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  Speaker 4: interesting because I didn't know that they were going to
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  Speaker 4: go that angle. I wasn't sure where they're going to
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  Speaker 4: go present this with. So that's one of the first
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  Speaker 4: dilemmas they have within the guard situation.
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  Speaker 2: And then that's when they go and do the riot,
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  Speaker 2: the riot act.
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  Speaker 4: And those two guys are like, we're not going to Well,
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  Speaker 4: it's weird because they said they're not going to comply,
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  Speaker 4: but they pretty much comply. So I thought that was
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  Speaker 4: kind of funny, too, because you're like, OK, you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: if they told me to get on the ground, I
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  Speaker 4: get on the ground. And they were kind of defiant,
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  Speaker 4: but very, very subtle. I'm like, I wanted to see
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  Speaker 4: some real right here. I'm like, pepper ball these guys
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  Speaker 4: like really in there, man, like really show them the
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  Speaker 4: fear of God. Right. So they can really understand what
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: they're involved in. And basically they just kind of like turn.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: This is where.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: Now the power dynamic between the guards, the day and
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: night shift kind of unite because the night shift felt undermined.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: It like, Hey man, we've been cool to you. We've
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: been nice to you. We gave you the microwave back
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: and we're trying to play the game. And we're just
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: asking you to follow the rules that we're, you know,
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: cause it was unexpected. They didn't know that we're going
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: to do this ride training. They walk in and they're like,
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: Oh crap, we got to do this.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: And when they undermine them, then they go and they go,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: you know what?
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: We're going to get these two guys and we're going
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: to put them on 23 hour lockdown, which means they
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: can only come out for an hour at a time.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: So for 23 hours a day, they're stuck in their cells.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: This is when I really thought that with Garth, the
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: guy is one of the biggest pusses that I've ever seen.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: He's talking all this shit. He's saying like, oh man,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I'm against authority. I've been locked up.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: I've been doing all this, just bumping his gums.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: The moment they tell him he's on.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: Like, they didn't realize they're on 23-hour lockdown. Because these two,
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: with Gartha and the math teacher, they're plotting and scheming
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: this whole time and trying to get people, like, we're
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: going to, you know, there's more of us, man.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Because they.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: They've had the benefit, too. So the experiment's different. That's
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: why they say it's the new Stanford experiment. It's totally
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: different because these guys already know about the Stanford experiment.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: So they're going in with different intentions. Their intentions are,
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: I'm going to try to disrupt this. They're like, hey,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: we have more of us.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: There's more of us. We could take over this jail
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: whenever we want, which is.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: true right like what they're saying makes sense but a
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: lot of the guys are like we don't care and
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: this is where i kind of felt like it started
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: blending into reality because there would be a lot of
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: people that are like bro i'm just trying to do
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: my time bro stop trying to cause problems i need
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: to go home to my kids or i need to
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: go home and do the things i need to do
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: they're causing these problems they they undermined the authority of
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: the night shift and now they're on 23-hour lockdown they're
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: And then the big plus goes.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Pineapple, pineapple.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I want to leave.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: And that's where I'm so, I was like, this guy's
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: so pathetic. I was like, you were ample.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: Like, cause while I'm watching this the whole time, I'm
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: wondering like, okay, like I've put in myself in this position.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I'll be like, okay, we're, this is fake. I don't care. Like,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: what are you going to do to me?
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Like we can fight, like we can get down if
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: we have to, but I don't, I don't think it's really.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Going to go that far. Cause what are you going
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: to do? I'm not really in jail.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: But this is where I'm like, are they playing a
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: part or is it true? Because a couple of the
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: people I think are really kind of like conforming as prisoners.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Well, he, so he says pineapple. He's like, all right,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I'm out of here. Right. But it's funny because, and
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: this is the most interesting part of the entire series.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: There's like another big twist here. He calls pineapple and
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: for everyone else that had called this out before, I
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: think maybe like two or three people had like left pineapple.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right, whatever. One guy was just like, yeah,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I don't want to put up with this crap. Like,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I'm done with this crap. Like, all right, fine. Like,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I can see that. I can see if I was
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: in this situation. I was like, yeah, I thought this
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: was going to be fun. It's not fun. Deuces.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: I'm out.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: He says pineapple. The producers bring him into a room.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: And they're like, are you really sure? Are you like pineapple, pineapple, pineapple,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: or are you just like pineapple? And they're like, let's,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: we're going to have you call your mom first. And
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I thought this was like one of the funniest parts
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: of the whole show. So like Branthan or whatever his
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: name was, the MacArthur guy, like Brandon calls his mom
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: and mom's like, Brandon, just add this to the list
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: of things that you never completed in your life. The
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: ice skating lessons and the piano lessons and community college.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: And weren't you going to be like a black wizard
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: at some point and famous world magician? It's like, Brandon, just,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: just do it. Just finish one thing in your life.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: And you can see that like, He's like, yeah, I
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: guess I did drop out in 11th grade. Yeah, I
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: guess I did make mommy pay for those expensive ballet
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: lessons that I never followed through on. Like, so he's
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: kind of like, all right, maybe I'll stay. They cut
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: back to the prisoners, and in addition to the guards
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: picking the head guard of each shift that caused some conflict,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: they also had day shift and night shift basically pick...
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: I forgot the term for the privileged prisoner, but they
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: pick the privileged prisoner. The trustee. They get to pick
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: the trustees, and the trustees they pick... This one was
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: so wild. The day shift, the mean small dick trustee
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: pick was this black guy that was kind of playing
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: by the rules and like doing things the way that
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: you're supposed to do. And I, I, I a hundred
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: percent got this guy's mentality. It's like, I'm here for
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: this experiment. I'm going to just do the experiment, but
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: also show people like, I, you're not going to change me.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to turn into a completely different person
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: because you told me I'm a prisoner or whatever. Like
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I'll play along or, I'll do the things that you're saying,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: but I'm just going to let you know that you
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: can do this with like some sort of integrity. Right.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: That was his mentality going in the night shift. They
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: pick one of the troublemakers. So when the night shift
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: and the reason they do it, this was even wilder. Right.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: The girl that gets picked as the lead guard for
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: the night shift. she's going in and they cut to her,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: like her family, personal story. And it's, you know, like
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I used to be a crack whore on the streets
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: and I was getting into all kinds of trouble. And
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: then I found Jesus and praise Jesus. And then it
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: cuts to her in her like normal life. And she's
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: one of these like televangelists sort of new wave, you know,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: tick tock sort of like come to Jesus people. The
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: reason I'm bringing this up is because she, she goes
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: and talks to this troublemaker that wasn't doing what they
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: wanted him to do. It wasn't like, you know, in
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: the riot scenario. And she's like, I don't know what
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: it is, but I just saw the, the spark of
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Jesus in those eyes. And that's when I knew that
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: he was going to be my trustee. Like, and if,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: if I can take a reformed, you know, horrible person and, and,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: and use this as motivation for them to become like
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: a better man. So first of all, I'm going in like,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, she doesn't live in reality with the
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: rest of us. She doesn't get, uh, how like real
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: life works. So she picks the troublemaker, you know, uh,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Brandon as the head guard. And when she does that,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the day shift trustee, he's kind of freaking out. Cause
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: he's like, you're recording these idiots for bad behavior. And, Meanwhile,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: like I'm the trustee because I'm following the rules. You
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: make this idiot a trustee for not following the rules.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: He's already pissed off at this, right? That when the
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: night shift takes over the day shift, that he loses
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: his trustee authority to this guy that's constantly causing problems
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: for everyone. So that was such a real, like, I
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: don't think that part was scripted. I mean, I know
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: that them picking the roles for everyone was probably scripted,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: but the fact that the daytime black guy prisoners getting
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: mad at the nighttime wigger prisoner that like that's causing
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: real conflict. And then the ultimate switch. So after Brandon
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: calls pineapple and they make him call his mom and
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: his mom's like, Brandon, you finish this for once in
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: your life. They're like, we're switching out the guards. So
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: then they take the motivational speaker guard, the small dick cow,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: fake cowboy guard, and they kick them out. And then
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: they bring in Brandon and the kindergarten teacher guy. Right.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: So now they're going to be the guards and you're
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: going into the, I thought this was a genius sort
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: of twist because they're taking these guys like I'm going
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: to book the system. Right. And now you are the system.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: And like, literally just like, bam, just you went from,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I want to go home. I'm talking to my mom.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Like I'm this big revolutionary badass. And within three seconds,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: it's like, actually you're the guard. Now, what are you
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: going to do with all this guard power? And bro,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: like the, the way that they are able to spin
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: on a dime, it's all of a sudden, it's like,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: we need to rule these guys with the iron fist.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: We can't allow no riff raff, you know? And when
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: they come back in the room and, And the, the
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: daytime trustee, this black guy with the integrity, he's like,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Oh hell no pineapple. You know what I'm like now
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: he's out because the guy that called pineapple is now
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: a guard. Like, I just love that. That was like
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: such an awesome moment in this entire show.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: It's crazy because I was kind of like being skeptical
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: throughout the whole thing. And when they, and you know, um,
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: I didn't like those, those guys riling it up. Like,
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: I don't mind the riling up, but I just thought
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: they were kind of weak about it. But when they
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: actually switched it, that was my favorite part, dude. Like
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: I was like, okay, you got me hooked now. Cause
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: not only the three troublemakers, right. You had the, the,
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: the math teacher and the MacArthur guy, uh, And then
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: you had this other guy, Jeff, who was kind of chill, right?
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: Like he was respected by a lot of the guys.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: He talked to everybody. He was just a chill guy.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: But he also– you could tell he didn't like authority, right?
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: Like he was against authority. And this is where it
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: gets interesting because those three guys are night shift. And
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: now the day shift is all women. All three women
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: are now running– the day shift. And then it gets
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: interesting because they're earlier when you see that they picking
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: the head guards for each shift, uh, they pick little
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: dick oil rig guy. And you could see the blonde
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: hair lady really was more of the leader. And I
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: actually thought when she became the leader, she actually did
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: a better job. She was like, she was compassionate enough,
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: but she was also like, Hey, hard nose. Right. And
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: I feel like the women actually did a better job,
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: like of controlling the prisoners. And I felt the thing
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: that screwed them over was that now that they got
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: these three troublemakers that are now running the jail and
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: they're trying to tell the, you know.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Hey, you got to do this. You got to do that.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: they did not have their selves together.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: Right. You got the guy, Jeff, who's the, they make
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: the lead guard and they're like, okay, you're going to
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: be the leader of this. And you could just tell
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: it's not his, it's not his thing, man. He's just like,
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: I don't want to do this. He's just like, I
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: don't know, bro. Like, I'm just trying to chill. Like,
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: and then they go to as far as they're like, look, man,
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: we're just gonna let you do whatever you want.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: It's going to be the worst decision you can make.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: That was one of the more interesting parts of this
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: whole series too, because like, Now you've got the daytime guards,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: which is the all-female shift now. They've kind of got
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: things down to a little bit of a science, right?
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Hard nose. That's a great way to phrase it. Then
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: you've got the night shift, which not only do they
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: want to be your buddies, but it's also like, look,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: we know we were these muckrakers and everything. The two
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: guys that were the biggest problem creators, they're like falling
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: into the role of being guards. It's the third guy, Jeff.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: And he comes out there and he's like, look, they
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: wanted us to do another, you know, a riot gear
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: training on you. I'm not going to do that. And
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: he like throws the helmet out. And he's like, in fact,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: you don't have any laws. You don't have any rules.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: We're going to leave all the doors open. The food
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: will show up. You guys can just feed yourselves. Like,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: let's just ride this thing out and anything goes right.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: And when he does that, The prisoners get angry at
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: him because they're like, no, we want structure. We want
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: you to lock our cells at 8 o'clock and wake
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: us up at 6 a.m. We have fallen into this system.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: And the fact that you're just coming in here and
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: you're just being like, yeah, just do anything because then
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: someone's like well give me the keys then and he's
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: like well like alright there's a line here I can't
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: give you the keys but you can do anything else
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: you want like why not give me the keys and
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: they like go after him and it almost turns into
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: like a little bit of a squabble because they're like
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: trying to steal the keys from him so you can
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: see that not only was he struggling with He didn't
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: want to be an authoritarian, but the fact that he
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: didn't want to do it, people were mad at him
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: and they were taking advantage and it was actually making
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: life more difficult for all the prisoners to the point
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: where the prisoners themselves, they kind of band together. They're like, no, we,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: we need you to be a dick. We need you
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: to give us this structure in our lives because otherwise
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: like no one really knows how to act. I thought
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: it was like such a, an interesting part of this
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: entire experiment.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because they even show one of the reasons they
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: get angry is because they're like, it's free range.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Hey, we're going to even bring some of the food
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: that we have that we get, the guard food.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the pizza.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: And then instead of just– they just let a mob
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: of people just grab stuff. So then there's people that are.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: In their rooms that are not getting it, right? Like
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: they're not getting any food. They're not getting anything. And
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: also– Not just the MacArthur guy, right? He was a
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: big puss in it. But Lil Dick, oil rig guy,
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: he was a big puss, bro.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: He was.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: As soon as he became a prisoner... He was trying
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: to like, you know, and OK, he wants to play
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: the game back. He's now not an authority. You could
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: tell that he just wanted to be authoritarian the whole time.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: And now he's pissed. He's like a kid that didn't
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: get his way.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: His dad said he couldn't get that video game or
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: couldn't get that.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Piece of candy.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: He's just trying to rile people up. And the second
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: that people are like, yeah, bro, we're not going to
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: do that. He's like, all right, I'm out. Like he
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: literally shit. and and then it's funny because i was
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: criticizing the ceo guy throughout it and then i started
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: kind of like you know what the guy's not bad
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: like i actually started to grow to like the guy
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: because I'm like, you know what? His philosophy is like, Hey,
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna work through it. He stayed as a prisoner.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: He was like, Hey, we should follow these rules because
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: once the three knuckleheads started started.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Doing night shift, people were like, Hey, let's, let's jump
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: these guys. Let's do whatever we want.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: You know, like once they had this authoritarianism, because after
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: they try to take the keys, the Jeff guys.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Like, Oh look, bro, I'm not the leader of this.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: I can't do that. And the women had to even
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: scold them because there was a.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: Point where a couple of the prisoners, because if this
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: was real life, the guard would have got he would
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: have got fucked up, man.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: The math teacher, because they're surrounding him and they're just yelling.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: And you have to nip that in the butt right away. Like, hey,
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: this is my authority. You need to know that something's
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: going to happen. And she's like, they happened to walk
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: in before their shift and they're like, dude, why didn't
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: you step in?
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: And they stepped in. So their authority went.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Even less, right? They're like, oh, you guys are the weakest. Like,
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: we're not even going to do anything about it. I
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: thought this element was so great because it was like, wow, man,
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: you're really making me think.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Because I thought, oh, here we go again. a lot
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: of the reality tv aspects of it and i'm like
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: oh i gotta hear well i was a math teacher.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: And i didn't like you know i just didn't like
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: the element of it but when they started making these
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: different things of where like hey we could just uh
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: we could do this and that when you change the
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: guards and then i started telling the people like this
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: is where i thought it was interesting because i was
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: like here we go i thought i thought i was
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: going to predict the ending which i did not Right.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: Like I was like, oh, they're going to say, you know,
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: this and this habit. They literally come to the conclusion
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: of like, yeah, we can leave whenever we want.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: This is an experiment.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: And that's when it pretty much ended, because now they
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: come to the realization of like, it's not that we
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: have to burn the place down. It's not that we
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: have to fight the guards. It's that we have to
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: know in our head that we're not a prisoner. We
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: are actually falling. And then I started to be like, oh,
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: these guys really did start falling in line, I think,
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: a little bit. I think these guys started actually feeling
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: like this structure and this, hey, wake up at this time. Hey,
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: you got to do this. They actually fell into this.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, wow, people can just... It reminded me
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: of politics. It reminded me of how... The masses just
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: falls into line for certain aspects are like, well, I
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: guess this is my role now. And people easily fell
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: into it, just like when you got the troublemakers going
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: to guards.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: And now they're like, well, I guess I got to
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: beat you, bro. Like, I'm the guard now, man. Sorry
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: about that. You know, you got it. You're on lockdown.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: And it was an interesting element that it brought to it.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: The other part of that, too, with the end, which
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: it wasn't really a twist. The biggest twist here really
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: was when they swap out the guards. That was the
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: peak moment. I was like, what? I can't believe this.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I was glued. That next episode couldn't go on fast enough.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I would have woken up from a stupor in order
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: to see the rest of this. So kudos on that.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: The other part, too, though, is at the end. Um, they,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: you've got some people like, um, it wasn't half and half,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: but let's say like half of the prisoners were like, no,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I came to do this thing. It's supposed to be
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: 14 days. Like, I'm like, I don't care what y'all do.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I'm going to see this thing through. I'm going to
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: stay until day 14. So I can just say like,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I did it. Right. But they end up getting sold
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: on this idea. Like, nah, but you don't get it.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Like we've got, I think they had like, I don't know,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: two or three days left and they were saying like,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: if you stay for an extra three days, what are
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: you proving exactly? Is it that you just feel bad
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: that you're quitting and that you didn't make it to
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: the end? But since this is an experiment and they
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: all basically agree on, instead of saying pineapple, which is
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: a safe word, they change the safe word to be like,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I have the power, like some He-Man shit.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: So instead it's like, Hey, we're all going to say
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: this at the same time. We're all going to say
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: the safe word at the exact same time. And it's
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: not going to be us admitting defeat. It's going to
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: be us saying like, hey, we've actually taken over this
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: experiment now. We get it. And they do that. And
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: that's kind of what comes to an end on all this.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: But not before. I think little dick guy pineapples out
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: right before any of that stuff happens. He talking all
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: this game. I'm going to show them how much of
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: a problem they were to me. But he can't last
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: it for like more than a day. So he's out
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: of this game. And they basically end it a little
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: bit early, right? So that's the conclusion of the Stanford
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Prison Experiment. But this one threw me through so many loops, man.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: It's good for all the wrong reasons. I think that...
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: On paper and what the producers and the writers were
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: capable of making, they didn't deserve how good the outcome
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: actually was because of the individual people. The other thing
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I noticed, too, at the very end, there was way
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: more people in this experiment out of these 30 people
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: that you never see an interview with. I guess they
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: were just... Like there were too much getting on to
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: get on. Like they were playing the part so well
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: that it's like, they just were not interesting enough to
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: ever get any airtime. Right. So that was also like, it's,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: it's easy to overlook that. You're like, wait a minute.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: We're just getting interviews with like the same eight people
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: for this entire series. What about the other 20 that
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: are out there? Well, the other 20 were just, I guess, boring.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: Funny you said that because we were watching it and
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: the guard switched there was that one guard i'm like
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: what the where was this guy i don't remember the
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: whole time all right.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Hidden treasures and overboard moments for the new stanford prison
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: experiment i'll let you go first.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: This one's interesting because there's a lot of hidden treasures
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: and there's a lot of, uh, overboard moments. A lot
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: of the overboard moments I'll go with is just the
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: basic complaints that I usually have, right. Of the, I
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: don't want to see the, uh, uh, uh, uh, reality
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: show or like modern family or the office type of like, Hey,
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: I'm doing my work now. I'm going to be like, well,
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: the reason I'm doing this, like the little interviews always
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: bother me.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: They it's too extended.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: I get it that, that it's, The part that grabs
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: a lot of people that wouldn't be maybe me and you, right?
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: The average viewer wants to know more about a story.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: That's why they do it in American Idol and everything,
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: even in sports. A lot of the people don't realize
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: when you're getting drafted, there's a reason why the guy
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: that's like, yeah, I lived in my car for five
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: years and then I finally got drafted and now I
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: got money.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: That's a storyline, right? These are all storylines.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: That really shrug on people's heartstrings or make them relatable.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: So I get it, but those parts are always annoying
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: to me. They're always overboard. I think some of the
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: overboard parts was with the MacArthur part. I hated that guy.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: He was just so annoying that he wanted to be
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: an antagonist, but I was like, you're a weak.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Man, bro. You're not.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: if you were really in jail, you would be complying, bro.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: You would have did everything you're supposed to do. You
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: would pretend that you're some tough guy. I hate the
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: tough guy act, but I would say that the hidden
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: treasures kind of outweigh on this one for me, because
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: there was so many different elements that kept going on.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: And the main hidden treasure is just like, just how
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: people react to things like how the authority can change
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: somebody and then not having authority can change somebody. And
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: it changes people in so many different ways. It's not like, Oh,
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: everybody fits into this category.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: You get authority.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: You have to be like this, but you, it's strange
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: to someone that you would think, Oh, well he's, he's
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: trying to cause problems. There's no way that he's going
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: to reinforce these rules.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: But then he did.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: The biggest troublemakers now became the biggest thoughtarians because Now,
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: the one guy was kind of, Jeff, he was in
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: the middle the whole time, and he kind of played
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: that same role. So it's like, well, also, authority doesn't
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: automatically make you an authoritarian. And also, when you don't
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: have any authority, it doesn't also make you a man
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: of the people, or it does make you a man
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: of the people.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: You could see the CEO guy.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: Whether he was a guard or whether he was a prisoner,
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: he was influential and he, and that is going to carry.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: So I was like, okay, it's not only what is
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: happening to the person. It's the person, the person matters
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: of what they're going to do, because when the experiment, nobody,
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: they were split, as you said. And I thought this
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: was interesting moment, the guy that didn't talk the whole time.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: And he was feeling like he's going to stay the
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: 14 days. And he came to a realization of like, hey,
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: we're all in this together, bro. Like, we can leave
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: whenever we want. And we've learned what we want.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: And him speaking up ignited everybody. Where it changed everything.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: Now they had the two sides, the two camps of
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: we're staying 14 days or we're walking out early. And
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: he was the unifier, the guy that didn't speak through
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: the whole show.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: So I thought it was an interesting look at humanity.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: I think that was for the highlights on this one. Clearly,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: far and away, the biggest highlight was that switching of
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: the guards and making the troublemakers. I just thought that
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: was the most entertaining aspect of this whole thing. I
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: agree with you 100% too that the I want to
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: be your friend CEO guy, maybe not the best guard
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: in the entire show, but he was a decent one.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: He would have been a decent guard. And it was
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: so interesting to see that he was an example that
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: whether he was on the prisoner side or the guard side,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: he's the same person with the same morals, the same responses,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: like that he really had, I guess, I want to
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: say integrity in a way where it's like, oh, he's
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: such a good person, but just that he was unwavering
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: in what his personality was. And what his worldview was
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: compared to these little shit ruckers that once they get
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: a little bit of power in their hands, now they're
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: like completely changed their personality. It was just wild to
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: see the huge contrast in how people were acting based
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: on who was in charge and who wasn't in charge
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: and who was getting credit and who wasn't. The biggest
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: overboard moment was basically any time they showed the three
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: experts with their like, oh, this psychologically, this is what
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: this person's going through. I didn't need any of that.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: That all could have been fully cut out. It would
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: have made the show even better, uh, without any of
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: that nonsense in it. And I guess the other aspect,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: which is impossible because it's a freaking Netflix show, right?
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: So you already know, and the people in it, they
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: know that they're getting out within two weeks, uh, And
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: you've alluded a few times to like, if, if you're
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: actually causing problems in prison, you have at least something
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: to lose. It might not have to be your life
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: or your teeth. It will be like that. Those are
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: very real things you can lose at any moment. If
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: you piss the wrong person off, right? Even in County jail,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: you can lose your life or lose some teeth. Either
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: one of those two. You know that that's not happening
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: in this experiment because it's for Netflix and everything else.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: So that aspect is making it kind of a little
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: bit weak. And the other part, too, of like not
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: having anything to lose, even if you're not a troublemaker
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: and even if you are in like minimum security and
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: no one's going to knock your teeth out. You still
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: have like good time. So when you go in, they're like, okay,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: your sentence is six months. Well, you're going to be
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: out in three months as long as you don't cause
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: any problems. So if there was another element to this,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: we're like, if you got in trouble, the guards could
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: add another day or another week. to your sentence. And
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: that really did mean that even if you wanted to
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: tough it out, that meant another week of toughing this
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: really annoying situation out that would have added just a
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: little bit more to, I guess, like the reality of
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: it all. Um, but that said, I still feel that
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: like you, uh, all of the overboard stuff was far
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: outweighed by all of the hidden treasures in this. And again, like,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if they scripted some of these
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: really interesting interactions are planned on it they just kind
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: of organically happened new stanford prison experiment 2026 netflix sink
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: or swim.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna even beat around the bush on this
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: one i came in The first couple episodes, I was
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: talking crap the whole time.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: My girl wanted to watch this, and I'm like, because
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: I'm against reality TV. Not against it, but it just
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: bores me.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: It's not something I'm entertained by, and I was pleasantly
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: surprised by the end of this series that I actually
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: liked it, and I gave it a swim all the way.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: I actually would tell people they should watch it and
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: talk through some of the bad parts at first because
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: there is going to be some parts that your bias
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: is going to run through, and you're going to think
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: a certain way, but I think if you really give
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: it a chance... then it's going to change everything. So
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: definitely a swim for me.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I guess I won't beat around the bush either. It's
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: going to be a swim for me on this one.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: And it's so crazy, right? Because... the bias against it, reality, garbage, Netflix, garbage,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: clearly scripted. They've kind of got all these like dramatic
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: points baked into it. But the star of this show
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: is just how people are actually reacting in these situations.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Even if they know they're on TV, even if they
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: know that they're here to be an influencer more than
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: go through any kind of experiment, regardless of all that,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: you still see these really interesting conflicts. And I think
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: even more than that, You can be a schizo conspiracy theorist.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: That's like all into the weeds and MK ultra and
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: CIA and government manipulation, or you can just be, you know,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: like I just watched a real housewives or I just
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: watched like schlock on TV where, Both of those types
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: of people can come together and still get something out
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: of this. And yeah, it, it has all that garbage
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Netflix reality show baked into it, but it's good despite
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: all of that. Right. Like, even though it has all that,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: it's still well worth a watch. So yeah, this, this
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: one gets a full swim for me.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: And the real experiment you got to try on yourself is,
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: is go to ParanoidAmerican.com.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Get the Paranoid Pamphlet MKUltra.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: That will really show you what is going on, what
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: the government's been doing, and what all these experiments really
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: lead to is MKUltra. Every time you see a social experiment,
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: think MKUltra. Don't forget to go to ParanoidAmerican.com, KillTheMockingbirds.com, and UnderTheDocs.com.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: This is another episode of Under The Docs.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Peace. Just buy something.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: From Paranoia American.
• 43:48
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• 43:59
  Speaker 4: Bye.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Just buy something from Paranoid American.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Just buy something.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Just buy something from Paranoid American.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I scribble my life away, driven to write the page.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Will it enlighten your brain? Give you the flight, my
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: plane paper, the highs ablaze. Somewhat of an amazing feel.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: When it's real to real, you will engage it. Your favorite,
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: of course, the lord of an arrangement. I gave you
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: the proper results to hit the pavement. If they get emotional.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Hey, maybe your language, a game.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: How they playing it well without Lakers evading. Whatever the course,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: they are the shapeshift. Snakes get decapitated, Matt is the apex.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Execution of flame, you out nuclear bomb Distributed at war,
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: rather gruesome for eyes to see Maxim out and I
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: light my trees Blow it off in the face, you're
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: despising me for what though? Calculated and rather cutthroat Paranoid American.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Must be all the blood smoke for real Lord.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Give me a day away, vacate They wait around to
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: hate whatever they say Matters not in the least bit
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: We get heavy rotate when a beat hits So thank
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: us you well, fuck the niggas for real You're welcome
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: They ain't never had a deal.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: You're welcome. Man, they lacking a pill. You're welcome. Yet
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: they doing it still.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: You're welcome.