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Speaker 1: Move on all right welcome back to our complete matchup
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Speaker 1: guide Georgia and Vandy this weekend some good storylines with
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Speaker 1: Jared Curtis what we thought was going to be um
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Speaker 1: you know a one-time Georgia commit now at Vandy things
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Speaker 1: have kind of changed and switched up a little bit
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Speaker 1: there but this is presented by PrizePix I'll give some
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Speaker 1: love to them later but uh Graham georgia vandy maybe
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Speaker 1: not the sec matchup that everybody is raving about this
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Speaker 1: week i know there's some other stuff happening in the
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Speaker 1: conference but still a pretty intriguing matchup as we try
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Speaker 1: and learn more about where uga is so far in
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Speaker 1: this season.
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Speaker 2: Yeah for sure and i mean you know vanderbilt has
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Speaker 2: had a really odd circuitous path to get to three
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Speaker 2: and one but They are still 3-1. Thank you, NC State. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: thank you, NC State. They kind of should have maybe
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Speaker 2: beat Auburn, honestly. They lost that game on a blocked
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Speaker 2: punt return or a blocked punt for a touchdown. They
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Speaker 2: really outscored Auburn's offense, though. Kind of an interesting team
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Speaker 2: because their defense was bad, and then they played pretty
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Speaker 2: good last week. They're kind of changing fast, which is
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Speaker 2: what you expect from a well-coached team. Clark Lee's a
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Speaker 2: good coach. They've got Jerry Curtis, obviously, who's a young talent,
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Speaker 2: but they also have a lot of new faces and
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Speaker 2: new places. So I kind of think they're evolving and
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Speaker 2: there's a long way to go for them.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. On Georgia specifically, I think it's so hard to
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Speaker 1: evaluate certain teams because of who they've played. And I
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Speaker 1: was incredibly impressed with them against Oklahoma, but also keeping
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Speaker 1: in mind Oklahoma is kind of a train wreck right
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Speaker 1: now and playing worse. I don't know if they're a
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Speaker 1: worse team or not, like it's maybe TBD, but playing
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Speaker 1: worse right now than we could have expected. I think
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Speaker 1: the one thing we all kind of thought, though, is, well,
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Speaker 1: Georgia's offense is going to have to work against this defense.
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Speaker 1: And Georgia's offense looked great on Saturday. And so, listen,
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Speaker 1: I'll buy all the, look, when you don't play anybody
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Speaker 1: at a conference or your first SEC game is Arkansas
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Speaker 1: and Utah beat the crap out of them. Like, how
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Speaker 1: much did we really glean from Georgia in the first
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Speaker 1: three weeks, I don't know, but that offense looked really,
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Speaker 1: really good. How much credit do you give Georgia's defense
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Speaker 1: for holding Oklahoma down? I don't know. UTEP did that.
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Speaker 1: Questions that we all have. Thoughts on Georgia's offense against
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Speaker 1: what is a really good defense for OU?
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Speaker 2: That is a really good defense. Kirby Smart, I know
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Speaker 2: for a fact. told some people in the building, told
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Speaker 2: his players last week coming into that game, like this
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Speaker 2: is probably going to be the best pure run defense
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Speaker 2: that you've seen in three or four years. And they
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Speaker 2: felt that way. And so this was not a game
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Speaker 2: where Georgia was able to do what they're kind of
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Speaker 2: known for doing and more comfortable doing in terms of
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Speaker 2: just being a very efficient football team that goes on
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Speaker 2: long drives. They did that at times. Their first scoring
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Speaker 2: drive was– almost seven minutes. I think it was the
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Speaker 2: fourth longest touchdown drive that Oklahoma has given up in
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Speaker 2: the last 30 games. And they were the first team
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Speaker 2: to put over 40 on Oklahoma's as they've joined the sec.
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Speaker 2: So like it was, it was a good day for UGA,
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Speaker 2: but what I was most impressed with was Georgia had
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Speaker 2: talked all off season. Kirby had talked all off season.
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Speaker 2: We want to be more explosive. We need to be
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Speaker 2: more explosive. And you get into a game against Oklahoma,
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Speaker 2: who is a very aggressive defense that wanted to blitz
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Speaker 2: Georgia a lot. And Georgia, to their credit, said, you know,
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Speaker 2: we're going to throw downfield. We're going to get the
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Speaker 2: ball outside. We're going to take advantage of these man-to-man
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Speaker 2: matchups that the heavy pressure packages Oklahoma runs creates. And
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Speaker 2: that's just not something I'm sure they would have done
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Speaker 2: like last year. I'm not sure that's how they would
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Speaker 2: have handled that. And in the run game, it was
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Speaker 2: a slog at times. Like they had some stuff runs
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Speaker 2: much more than you usually see from a Georgia offense,
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Speaker 2: especially I think this particular Georgia offense. but they break
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Speaker 2: a 55-yard run for a touchdown with the White Phillips.
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Speaker 2: They're up to, I think, six 50-yard plays from scrimmage
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Speaker 2: so far this year after only having two all of
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Speaker 2: last year. So there's a lot of good trend lines
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Speaker 2: and signs for them offensively, but really seeing them commit
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Speaker 2: to throwing the ball vertically with Gunnar Stockton and some
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Speaker 2: of these young wide receivers who were well-heralded coming out
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Speaker 2: of high school but that we haven't really seen do
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Speaker 2: that in a game yet was impressive.
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Speaker 1: When you think about this Vandy matchup, obviously Jared Curtis
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Speaker 1: being questionable is a storyline going into it, and I
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Speaker 1: just kind of wonder, I feel like there's a million
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Speaker 1: angles you can go, so I'll just let my ADD
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Speaker 1: brain go wild for a minute and spout them all
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Speaker 1: off to you, and then you can kind of go
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Speaker 1: in the direction that you want. One, him not playing
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Speaker 1: matters because he's a starting quarterback, but also I also
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Speaker 1: think you're talking about a kid that would be playing
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Speaker 1: his fifth college game anyway. This isn't the same as
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Speaker 1: Sam Levitt being questionable right before Ole Miss, right? I
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Speaker 1: think the, not that your starting quarterback isn't important everywhere,
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Speaker 1: but it's a guy with five starts or four starts, right?
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Speaker 1: In a college career, as opposed to Levitt, where they've
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Speaker 1: really built a lot of things around him. So, you know,
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Speaker 1: you want him there if you're Vandy, but it's probably
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Speaker 1: not like the massive drop off. Otherwise, like it might
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Speaker 1: be if this guy, if Jared was in his third year, right?
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Speaker 1: So that's one thought that I have. Two is if
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Speaker 1: he's battling back from what Clark Lee has called a
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Speaker 1: major injury. Not that you're cheering for him.
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Speaker 2: Has he called it that?
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Speaker 1: That's what I read. He's mentally and physically tough, battling
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Speaker 1: back from a minor injury. Yeah, let's correct that.
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Speaker 2: Correct it.
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Speaker 1: But if he's battling back from a minor injury and
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Speaker 1: he's questionable on a status... I don't know that the
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Speaker 1: Georgia defense, not that you would ever cheer for an
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Speaker 1: injury or hope a guy gets hurt, but like the
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Speaker 1: risk of being re-injured against a Georgia defense to me
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Speaker 1: is pretty real and something that needs to be considered of,
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Speaker 1: you know, is Vandy trying to win the battle or
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Speaker 1: the war, right? Like for the season. Again, not that
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Speaker 1: I'm encouraging any kind, I know people will read into
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Speaker 1: that the wrong way, but I do think you're thinking
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Speaker 1: about that if you're Vandy is like, man, I'd really
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Speaker 1: rather this be an Arkansas defense that we were going
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Speaker 1: up against this week or somebody that doesn't play with
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Speaker 1: maybe the ferocity of a UGA. How does the Curtis
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Speaker 1: storyline just impact the entire day for this game?
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that is the whole game, in
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Speaker 2: my opinion. If you look at Vandy's offense, really without him,
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Speaker 2: there's not much of an offense. They do not run
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Speaker 2: the ball well from a design run standpoint. They are
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Speaker 2: on their first contact yards per rush attempt. They're 66
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Speaker 2: out of 68 power floor teams. Against Auburn, they had
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Speaker 2: negative yards before contact in the rushing game. They ran
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Speaker 2: for 137 and had 150 yards after contact. A lot
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Speaker 2: of that was Jared Curtis scrambling around. I think he
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Speaker 2: had 101 yards rushing after contact in that Auburn game.
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Speaker 2: So if you put Blaise Berlowitz out there for Vanderbilt,
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Speaker 2: you're not going to get that same dynamic from an
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Speaker 2: athleticism standpoint. This has not been an offense that has
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Speaker 2: shown it can do much other than, like, take what
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Speaker 2: you give them in terms of throwing in front of
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Speaker 2: some linebackers maybe that are sitting in a zone or
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Speaker 2: chuck it deep with Jared Curtis making like five-star hero
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Speaker 2: throws and then letting him create kind of off-script, off-passing plays.
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Speaker 2: Their best running plays have been Jared Curtis running off-passing plays.
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Speaker 2: So without him, this game could get very, very sideways.
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Speaker 2: It could still get sideways with him. But to your point,
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Speaker 2: certainly– an interesting decision for Clark Lee, certainly an interesting
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Speaker 2: decision for Jared Curtis, quite frankly. Do you want to
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Speaker 2: walk out there and play this Georgia defense without a
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Speaker 2: great offensive line, without much of a run game to
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Speaker 2: support you and, and on a team that, I mean,
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Speaker 2: they can't protect play action passes. Like there's, there's not
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Speaker 2: much structure and things to lean on easy button wise
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Speaker 2: for their offense. They don't have a screen game. Like
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Speaker 2: this could be, a game where he does take a
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Speaker 2: lot of hits if he's going to play a competitive
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Speaker 2: brand of football. And I don't think that they're going
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Speaker 2: to trot him out there or that he wants to
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Speaker 2: trot out there to not be competitive or to throw
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Speaker 2: the ball in the dirt right before a hit comes on.
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Speaker 2: This is college football. This is not– this is college
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Speaker 2: football against Georgia's defensive line and Georgia's linebackers that have
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Speaker 2: guys like Chris Cole running around out there. So you
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Speaker 2: better– come correct and you better have the right mentality
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Speaker 2: going out there. If you play not to get hurt,
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Speaker 2: or if you play to protect yourself, sometimes that can
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Speaker 2: be even more dangerous.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree. Is there anything, we saw Georgia's
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Speaker 1: offense at times look really good. Georgia's offense has looked good,
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Speaker 1: you know, throughout the season, but even against a really
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Speaker 1: good Oklahoma defense, is there anything that Vandy does scheme wise,
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Speaker 1: obviously talent for talent. We, we know what this matchup is,
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Speaker 1: but is there anything that Vandy does scheme wise that
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Speaker 1: could cause Georgia any kind of trouble? Because if it's
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Speaker 1: athlete on athlete, certainly, I don't know how intriguing the
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Speaker 1: analysis would be there. But with their scheme, with the
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Speaker 1: things that they'll try and do to pull the rabbit
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Speaker 1: out of the hat here and be competitive in the
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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, what do you think there?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they've got some interesting stuff going on defensively.
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Speaker 2: Their free safety, C.J. Hurd, number eight. I just thought
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Speaker 2: he was fun to watch in the Auburn tape. Like,
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Speaker 2: he took 10 snaps at edge, 37 snaps in the
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Speaker 2: box defensively. 20 snaps as a free safety, lined up
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Speaker 2: at corner, lined up over the slot. Like, he's all
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Speaker 2: over the place. And they kind of do that with
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Speaker 2: a couple of their pieces to try and muddy the
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Speaker 2: waters and confuse, hey, is this guy dropping in coverage
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Speaker 2: or is this guy coming on a blitz? Is he
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Speaker 2: here in run support? Similar to what Georgia saw against Arkansas. Like,
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Speaker 2: they'll use some creepers in the run game or they're
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Speaker 2: part of sort of their their sim pressure packages. So
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Speaker 2: Gunnar Stockton to this point in his career is certainly
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Speaker 2: been a guy who if you blitz him. And given
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Speaker 2: those man coverage looks, he usually looks way more comfortable.
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Speaker 2: So far this year, he's 26-35 for 500 yards and
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Speaker 2: seven touchdowns against the Blitz, so like 14.5 yards as
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Speaker 2: an attempt. He's really doing well. Teams have had success
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Speaker 2: against him. Like Georgia Tech had a lot of success
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Speaker 2: against him last year by just dropping eight out and
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Speaker 2: kind of really trying to muddy the short and intermediate line.
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Speaker 2: passing lanes and see how he reacts to that and
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Speaker 2: kind of make him live on small chunks. Vandy has
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Speaker 2: not done that to this point in the season, but
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Speaker 2: they will kind of switch in and out of some
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Speaker 2: pressure heavy stuff and then, and then dropping some exotic looks.
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Speaker 2: So they, they can certainly kind of pull some different
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Speaker 2: rabbits out of the hat to borrow your phrase. I
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Speaker 2: just don't know over the long haul in this game,
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Speaker 2: how much that, that will kind of add up, but they, they,
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Speaker 2: They do have a good pair of safeties that I
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Speaker 2: think can kind of help keep a lid on things
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Speaker 2: and maybe force Georgia to drive the field and not
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Speaker 2: just hit a lot of explosive plays.
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Speaker 1: Do you worry at all about Georgia coming off of
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Speaker 1: a big-time win, just less analytical, more big picture, coming
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Speaker 1: off of a big-time win against Oklahoma and having any
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Speaker 1: kind of a letdown? Because if you look at Vandy...
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Speaker 1: Their schedule is brutal. They do get the Arkansas game,
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Speaker 1: but every other game, Georgia this week, Ole Miss after that,
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Speaker 1: Arkansas is there, at Kentucky, at Kamario Taylor, against Alabama,
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Speaker 1: at Jaden Ball and Buster Faulkner, who we'll talk about
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Speaker 1: a little bit, and then Tennessee to finish things off.
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Speaker 1: You get the Arkansas game, but outside of that, it
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Speaker 1: is just complete. Every one of these teams could fight
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Speaker 1: for the playoff. Maybe Kentucky and Tennessee are a bit
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Speaker 1: of a stretch. But yeah, like if he's going to
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Speaker 1: have to knock somebody off to even get close to
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Speaker 1: bowl eligibility. So on the reverse side, if you're Georgia, like,
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Speaker 1: do you kind of worry about any, like, all right,
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Speaker 1: we sleepwalk through a game against Vanderbilt who seems to
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Speaker 1: have returned a little bit more to form of, of
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Speaker 1: what we've known Vandy as.
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Speaker 2: Uh, I would, if this, if this Oklahoma game that
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Speaker 2: they had just played had been a little more like
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Speaker 2: dramatic and intense, right. I, I think they came off
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Speaker 2: that game and the speech they got in the locker
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Speaker 2: room from Kirby was literally in line of, hey, congrats
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Speaker 2: on the win, but you guys didn't really knock them
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Speaker 2: out blow-to-blow physically the way that we want to knock
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Speaker 2: teams out. So I don't know that there was a
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Speaker 2: ton of praise. I think the reaction to that win
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Speaker 2: was a lot of people just saying, well, John Mateer sucks,
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Speaker 2: Oklahoma sucks. Of course Georgia beat them, right? And I'm
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Speaker 2: not saying that's fair or even necessarily– all the way accurate.
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Speaker 2: But that's how the national media and some of the
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Speaker 2: local media even have interpreted that game. I think the
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Speaker 2: spot to look for Georgia possibly in a letdown would
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Speaker 2: be if they go to Tuscaloosa and beat Alabama and
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Speaker 2: then come home the next week and have to play
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Speaker 2: an Auburn team that looks kind of shaky so far
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Speaker 2: this year, that would be the time to look for them.
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Speaker 2: Because if they win at Alabama, that would be something
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Speaker 2: they haven't done since 2007.
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Speaker 1: 24.5 point spread. Saban's first year, you just mentioned that.
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Speaker 1: Alabama game. Also lost to UNLM before terrorizing college football
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Speaker 1: for a decade and a half. But 24.5 point spread.
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Speaker 1: Is this a spread that Georgia covers if they want to? Obviously,
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Speaker 1: Curtis's injury makes an impact, but is it kind of
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Speaker 1: like if Kirby wants to cover the spread, they'll cover
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Speaker 1: the spread? Not that he cares about the specific number,
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Speaker 1: but if he wants to leave guys in, they'll probably
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Speaker 1: get there? Or were your thoughts around... taking the line.
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Speaker 1: Cause I'll tell you, I'm diving full in on, on
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Speaker 1: the line. I, if that's a trap by Vegas, then
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Speaker 1: I'll fall into it, man. Bring it on. The BYU
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Speaker 1: spread went from seven and a half and now it's
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Speaker 1: down to like five and a half now. And you're like, Ooh,
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Speaker 1: it's on the road. It's a TCU. I'll still take it. Whatever, man.
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Speaker 1: Like bring it on, man.
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Speaker 2: If I got to be a sucker, I'll be one
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Speaker 2: that I can, I can bet against Georgia at home, potentially, uh,
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Speaker 2: against a used blaze Berlowitz. It's only 24 and a
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Speaker 2: half points. Come on, man. Where's my mortgage payment for
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Speaker 2: this month? Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Put it all in black.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I like Georgia has been covering the spread
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Speaker 2: this year. It's, it's a thing that's happened. Uh, the,
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Speaker 2: the Oklahoma game last week and, and really every game
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Speaker 2: they've played, like Kirby was so angry after, uh, their
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Speaker 2: second game of the year because they're, they put their
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Speaker 2: backups in on defense and their backups like gave up
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Speaker 2: some points to Western Kentucky. And then he was pissed
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Speaker 2: about it after the Arkansas game, but Val did not
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Speaker 2: let it ruin his day. And then like, you could
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Speaker 2: tell he was angry about it again after the Oklahoma game.
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Speaker 2: Cause Mateer and the Oklahoma starters went in when Georgia
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Speaker 2: put their backups. So I just, that will be the
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Speaker 2: interesting angle really. Like I could see Georgia getting a lead.
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Speaker 2: to cover this spread. And then Vandy, if they decide
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Speaker 2: to try and like, if Curtis does play and they
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Speaker 2: leave Curtis in this game, certainly see him coming in
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Speaker 2: and like dotting up a bunch of freshmen for a
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Speaker 2: couple of touchdown passes late. So the, the angle to
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Speaker 2: play this game might be first half, honestly. It is
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Speaker 2: supposed to rain on Saturday in Athens, or they're calling
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Speaker 2: for a good chance of rain in the forecast.
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Speaker 1: Rainy everywhere in the southeast, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that could certainly contribute to the point total
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Speaker 2: in this game and make it a little sloppy. If
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Speaker 2: that happens, I actually think it favors Georgia because I
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Speaker 2: think Vandy's whole offense at this point is pretty much
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Speaker 2: like hope. Curtis makes a god-tier throw downfield. I will
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Speaker 2: be picking Georgia to cover this spread, especially I like
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Speaker 2: them to cover it anyways, but if there's a world
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Speaker 2: out there where it's possible that Curtis might not play
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Speaker 2: or that Curtis could take a hit that gets him
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Speaker 2: leaving this game early or anything like that, then you
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Speaker 2: could see a lot of three and outs from Vanderbilt.
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Speaker 1: I am quickly looking up just to see what it
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Speaker 1: looks like. The halftime spread on this and I don't
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Speaker 1: know why I'm struggling to find it I don't want
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Speaker 1: to spend a ton of time scrolling through my phone
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Speaker 1: but I would be interested in what that halftime spread
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Speaker 1: is and if you like it maybe a good play
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Speaker 1: for people that yeah here we go halves Georgia minus
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Speaker 1: 14 and a half so the hook is there but
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Speaker 1: I feel like that's a pretty good number so pretty good.
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Speaker 2: Number man I think they've been a hot starting team
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Speaker 2: so far this year. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And I think you do worry about the backdoor cover
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Speaker 1: in any kind of game. What's a big spread backups
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Speaker 1: get in? How much does Georgia care to not care,
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Speaker 1: but like they're not going to put their starters back
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Speaker 1: in to cover a spread. Right.
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Speaker 2: So could be a Ryan Puglisi legacy game though. I mean,
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Speaker 2: Kirby has been like cutting the backup quarterbacks loose a
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Speaker 2: little bit more this year. Imagine Ryan Puglisi going out
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Speaker 2: and out-dueling five-star Jared Curtis, who was going to come
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Speaker 2: and take his job, who everyone was ready to sell
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Speaker 2: him down the river for. Could be a pretty awesome
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Speaker 2: coded moment for those that understand the significance.
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19:01
Speaker 1: South Carolina. We talked about the weather in the game
19:05
Speaker 1: for Georgia. Not too far away is Clemson, South Carolina. Again,
19:08
Speaker 1: we may get rain across the entire southeast. It could
19:11
Speaker 1: be an impact on every single game that happens from
19:13
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, Bama to Florida, Missouri, all the way down
19:17
Speaker 1: here to Tallahassee and Virginia. later. So Clemson and Miami, Miami,
19:22
Speaker 1: a big favorite in this one. I think it's 16
19:24
Speaker 1: and a half or so Clemson undefeated since losing against
19:28
Speaker 1: LSU early again, presented by prize picks, but Graham, big
19:30
Speaker 1: picture thoughts on this one.
19:33
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I think this is a fun, interesting game.
19:37
Speaker 2: I think everybody assumes that Miami is going to like
19:39
Speaker 2: roll in there and stomp out Clemson. There's kind of
19:42
Speaker 2: this idea of Miami as this dominant force, which I
19:46
Speaker 2: totally understand they're coming off a national title game appearance.
19:49
Speaker 1: During.
19:50
Speaker 2: Mensah is playing at a very high level. You've got
19:54
Speaker 2: Malachi Tony. You've got Mark Fletcher. You've got the star
19:58
Speaker 2: Damon Wilson coming off the edge. They've got the pieces.
20:01
Speaker 2: They have the big names. But I am interested to see,
20:05
Speaker 2: can Clemson offer some resistance in this game Defensively, Clemson
20:09
Speaker 2: has been playing really well, honestly, since that LSU game.
20:13
Speaker 2: I thought they played really well with Cal. They handled
20:17
Speaker 2: JKS in a pretty impressive way. I thought they've started
20:22
Speaker 2: to find some pressure. Some of these kind of young,
20:25
Speaker 2: like last wave of heralded blue chip Dabo recruits like
20:30
Speaker 2: Sammy Brown are growing up a little bit. And then offensively,
20:34
Speaker 2: it does work. seem like they're maybe kind of like
20:37
Speaker 2: finding some footing. I thought Chad Morris sneakily called a
20:40
Speaker 2: very good game against Cal, like big downs. There were
20:44
Speaker 2: some nice things they did in the run game and
20:46
Speaker 2: hit some things that I think caught Cal by surprise.
20:50
Speaker 2: So this could be our first chance. I know that
20:55
Speaker 2: Miami ended up sort of in a little bit of
20:57
Speaker 2: a sweaty situation with Wake Forest late in that game
21:01
Speaker 2: in Winston-Salem on a Friday night, but this could be
21:03
Speaker 2: our first chance to Just kind of see somebody with
21:06
Speaker 2: a few more bodies that resemble what Miami has on
21:11
Speaker 2: its roster.
21:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree with that. And again, you factor
21:14
Speaker 1: in the weather. You also think about where Miami has struggled.
21:19
Speaker 1: They've not been good the last two weeks. I believe
21:22
Speaker 1: it's either 18 or 20 combined penalties the last two
21:24
Speaker 1: games that Miami has played. You certainly don't want to
21:27
Speaker 1: go on the road to Death Valley and let that
21:29
Speaker 1: be a factor. Number two, they've not been good on
21:33
Speaker 1: the interior of the offensive line. And that has impacted
21:37
Speaker 1: the running game. And Mario Cristobal has called it out. Obviously,
21:41
Speaker 1: that's a passion of his, being an offensive line guy.
21:43
Speaker 1: And their fan base is not super happy with where
21:46
Speaker 1: the interior of that offensive line is. Is Vic back?
21:50
Speaker 1: I know he was suspended for an undetermined amount of time.
21:54
Speaker 1: But is Vic back for Clemson? Because I think that
21:57
Speaker 1: could have a big impact. I should know that, since
21:59
Speaker 1: we're here two days from the game. but can probably
22:03
Speaker 1: the best defensive front that Miami seen so far. I mean,
22:05
Speaker 1: you're thinking Stanford fam, you central Michigan and wake forest
22:09
Speaker 1: with or without him. I think this is probably going
22:12
Speaker 1: to be one of the better fronts that you've seen defensively.
22:15
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call them elite by any means, but one
22:17
Speaker 1: of the better fronts in the ACC for sure. What does,
22:20
Speaker 1: what does Miami's offensive line look like up front? Um,
22:24
Speaker 1: and in that middle, um, to go up against the best.
22:29
Speaker 1: If you're getting pushed back against Stanford, Wake, FAMU, and
22:33
Speaker 1: Central Michigan at times, obviously they dominated FAMU, and they
22:37
Speaker 1: looked better against Central Michigan too. But if you're getting
22:39
Speaker 1: pushed back in some of your power for competition, and
22:41
Speaker 1: then you've got to go on the road at Clemson,
22:43
Speaker 1: and that interior of the offensive line hasn't, whether it's
22:46
Speaker 1: gelled together or figured some things out or adjusted some technique,
22:50
Speaker 1: whatever the fix is there for Coach Mirabelle, that is
22:53
Speaker 1: a big question to me. And we... If you need
22:57
Speaker 1: any example of what defensive line pressure can do for
23:00
Speaker 1: a team, go look at Knoxville last week, where both
23:03
Speaker 1: defensive lines combined for, you know, as good as Colin
23:05
Speaker 1: Simmons was, both defensive lines combined for 16 sacks. I mean,
23:10
Speaker 1: they wrecked both offensive game plans for large parts of
23:14
Speaker 1: that game. I do think that if you look talent
23:17
Speaker 1: on talent, yeah, Miami should win this game. There's a
23:19
Speaker 1: reason they're a 17 point, 16 and a half point
23:21
Speaker 1: favorite on the road. But if you're starting to think
23:23
Speaker 1: about like, okay, well, what do we need to do
23:26
Speaker 1: to compete not just on the road at Clemson, but
23:29
Speaker 1: then beyond it all starts up front and a Miami
23:32
Speaker 1: fans know that Miami staff knows that because they watched
23:34
Speaker 1: what their team was able to do last year. They
23:36
Speaker 1: were able to bully most teams they played up front
23:38
Speaker 1: and it's not been the same level from the interior
23:41
Speaker 1: offensive line perspective. And that's the biggest thing that I
23:44
Speaker 1: want answered. I know that Darian Mintz is probably going
23:47
Speaker 1: to have more touchdowns than incompletions on Saturday. I know
23:49
Speaker 1: that Malachi Tony, if he gets the ball in space
23:51
Speaker 1: is probably going to do something special. I know that
23:53
Speaker 1: David Wilson will probably make a big player too. Um, Conversely,
23:57
Speaker 1: I know that Clemson's wide receivers can probably make a
24:00
Speaker 1: play or two against this secondary that's a little bit
24:01
Speaker 1: banged up for Miami. But if you're Miami, to me,
24:05
Speaker 1: it's not just about winning this game, which Mario would
24:07
Speaker 1: disagree and say it's just about going 1-0 here. But
24:10
Speaker 1: I think it's a little bigger picture in, OK, is
24:12
Speaker 1: this really a team that's going to go compete for
24:14
Speaker 1: it all? Or do they have two bigger questions on
24:16
Speaker 1: the offensive line in the secondary with penalties and composure there?
24:22
Speaker 1: to really put them in that elite category. And I
24:24
Speaker 1: think some of those questions start to get answered against
24:26
Speaker 1: the best front they've played all year.
24:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, 100%. And I think that you look at Miami,
24:32
Speaker 2: their offense, like if you look at their kind of
24:36
Speaker 2: radar chart, right? Like game on paper, if you look
24:40
Speaker 2: at their radar chart over here, past success rate, yards
24:44
Speaker 2: of drop back, past EPA, like all of these advanced
24:47
Speaker 2: stats in the past game, very good. Their success rates,
24:51
Speaker 2: on late downs, very good, low average third down distance,
24:56
Speaker 2: like lots of stuff that you like, but they don't
25:00
Speaker 2: run the ball explosively. And really they, they have not,
25:04
Speaker 2: despite Malachi Tony's just, just being Malachi Tony and being
25:09
Speaker 2: maybe the coolest player in college football, they've not actually
25:13
Speaker 2: been that overly explosive in the past game either. And
25:17
Speaker 2: so that, that part is interesting. I think that Clemson,
25:21
Speaker 2: It would surprise me a little bit just with how
25:24
Speaker 2: Miami has been over the last few weeks for them
25:28
Speaker 2: to come in and just run the ball down Clemson's throat.
25:31
Speaker 2: I agree with what you said about the interior Miami's
25:34
Speaker 2: offensive line, but I would point out that even Okunlola
25:39
Speaker 2: at tackle has not been very good in the run
25:43
Speaker 2: game to this point in the year. We know that
25:46
Speaker 2: he's got all the tools to be a dominant zone
25:49
Speaker 2: run blocker, but there are some things that just haven't
25:52
Speaker 2: quite come together and maybe that's kind of a product of,
25:56
Speaker 2: of beating the crap out of people. Right. And, and,
25:58
Speaker 2: and not being pushed a little bit, but I do
26:03
Speaker 2: think that Clemson can probably put them into more third
26:08
Speaker 2: and longs and put them into some more situations and
26:12
Speaker 2: maybe have some athletes to, to at least like not
26:16
Speaker 2: take Tony away. You're not going to take him away, but, uh,
26:19
Speaker 2: force Mensah to get off Tony and into some other
26:22
Speaker 2: reads at times. And we, we saw Wake Forest kind
26:25
Speaker 2: of adjust in the second half of that game and
26:29
Speaker 2: force him off some of his first reads. And he
26:32
Speaker 2: did not look as comfortable as he had looked to
26:34
Speaker 2: that point in the season. Right. So I, I'm not,
26:38
Speaker 2: I would be shocked if Clemson, you know, won this
26:41
Speaker 2: game somehow or anything like that. But I, I wouldn't
26:44
Speaker 2: be shocked if this game is, you know, 10 points
26:47
Speaker 2: at halftime and, 14 going into the fourth quarter or
26:51
Speaker 2: something like that, and there's at least a little bit
26:54
Speaker 2: of resistance.
26:58
Speaker 1: I was trying to steal your word, but you got
27:00
Speaker 1: it out before I could. Vic is back. He was
27:04
Speaker 1: back for the UNC game. Sorry that I've missed that,
27:07
Speaker 1: but has played in the last two games, so he'll
27:08
Speaker 1: be there. So again, Miami's interior offensive line, the task
27:11
Speaker 1: gets a little tougher with one of Clemson's better players back.
27:15
Speaker 1: The big question I would have is Clemson's offense, and
27:17
Speaker 1: I think you think about the way this game may
27:20
Speaker 1: play out. And I think it is absolutely plausible that
27:24
Speaker 1: this game, I mean, we already saw it once that
27:26
Speaker 1: this game does get away from Clemson. And if Miami
27:29
Speaker 1: starts to get things rolling at all, you wonder about
27:32
Speaker 1: Clemson's ability to fight back and respond against a defense
27:36
Speaker 1: that does present a lot of pressure up front. I
27:39
Speaker 1: think they can be gotten with how good Clemson's weapons
27:42
Speaker 1: are on, you know, their wide outs. But if, If
27:45
Speaker 1: a young quarterback going up against one of the better
27:48
Speaker 1: defensive lines as far as pressure rates go in the conference,
27:52
Speaker 1: if he doesn't have time, then I don't care if
27:54
Speaker 1: you've got two Jeremiah Smiths out there. You've got to
27:56
Speaker 1: have time to get him the ball. So I guess
27:59
Speaker 1: my biggest question would be how much success, because I
28:03
Speaker 1: do think he's been building. I think you're exactly right
28:04
Speaker 1: on where Tate Reynolds is now versus where he was
28:06
Speaker 1: three weeks ago. I think he's been improving. It's just
28:09
Speaker 1: a really stiff test this weekend against Miami. How effective
28:13
Speaker 1: do you think their offense can be And I would
28:17
Speaker 1: guess the follow-up to that is, if it's not very effective,
28:19
Speaker 1: then that's where I think this thing could turn into
28:23
Speaker 1: non-competitive in the second half. Which is a very realistic route.
28:28
Speaker 2: Their offense has been really bad in a lot of respects.
28:32
Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to point to anything that they've
28:36
Speaker 2: done well with consistency. Their defense... you know, lately has
28:45
Speaker 2: kind of, I think the defense has risen its level
28:48
Speaker 2: and Reynolds did start to do some things in the second,
28:51
Speaker 2: third and fourth quarters on the road at Cal where
28:53
Speaker 2: you're like, okay, like I see it, you know, like you're,
28:56
Speaker 2: you're managing things and you're, you're making some throws over
28:59
Speaker 2: the middle and just putting together some decent offense that,
29:05
Speaker 2: that built into drives and eventually built into some explosive
29:08
Speaker 2: plays for them in the run game. Right. Which is
29:10
Speaker 2: not something that we saw at all. in Baton Rouge
29:14
Speaker 2: in week one. I know that Cal's defensive personnel is
29:17
Speaker 2: not LSU's defensive personnel, but still I, I, I did
29:22
Speaker 2: think like you had a moment with Tate Reynolds there
29:25
Speaker 2: a little bit on the road, 3000 miles from home.
29:29
Speaker 2: That might be significant for, for him and his career
29:32
Speaker 2: and just for this Clemson season and for Davos kind
29:35
Speaker 2: of career arc at this point as well, in the
29:37
Speaker 2: sense of like in this ACC, maybe Clemson can scratch
29:42
Speaker 2: out like a 9-3 season or an 8-4 season. And
29:45
Speaker 2: if they do that, then I don't know that some
29:48
Speaker 2: of the conversations we were having after week one are
29:51
Speaker 2: going to be relevant anymore. So I think that this
29:55
Speaker 2: Clemson offense, can they pass block? affect like Miami, you know, honestly, the,
30:03
Speaker 2: with the ACC not doing the injury report deal that,
30:09
Speaker 2: that we've seen from the SEC, it's hard to know
30:11
Speaker 2: what Miami's defensive secondary personnel is going to look like.
30:15
Speaker 2: Cause I think you saw them feel the lack of
30:19
Speaker 2: presence of some of those injured corners against wake forest
30:23
Speaker 2: in the second half of that game. And, uh, I
30:26
Speaker 2: could see Clemson being able to take advantage of something
30:28
Speaker 2: like that. And honestly, the thing that would help Clemson
30:32
Speaker 2: pass protect for Reynolds some would be if, if Miami's
30:36
Speaker 2: not maybe all the way where they want to be
30:38
Speaker 2: from a personnel standpoint in the secondary, because truthfully, like,
30:41
Speaker 2: I don't know, you want to leave some of those
30:43
Speaker 2: backup corners on an Island. It probably forces Miami into
30:46
Speaker 2: playing some more zones, which probably kind of limits some
30:49
Speaker 2: of the pressure package options that they have on the
30:51
Speaker 2: table in front of them. So, That, to me, is
30:54
Speaker 2: probably a huge storyline, like how that looks in the
30:58
Speaker 2: hour or two before this game. If that information is
31:01
Speaker 2: out there, that could certainly influence whether I want to
31:05
Speaker 2: bet on this game or who I want to bet
31:07
Speaker 2: on in this game. But I think that Clemson can
31:11
Speaker 2: put together some drives in this game where maybe they
31:16
Speaker 2: can just kind of stack some small gains. And they're
31:19
Speaker 2: going to challenge them. They will challenge Miami. in the
31:23
Speaker 2: sense of, let's be honest, like in the fourth quarter
31:26
Speaker 2: in Winston-Salem the other night, Damon Wilson looked 15 pounds
31:30
Speaker 2: overweight and a little bit gassed and was coming off
31:32
Speaker 2: the field. Like there were sort of some of those
31:35
Speaker 2: types of things that were happening for Miami and not
31:39
Speaker 2: across the board by any means at all. But I'm
31:43
Speaker 2: curious to see if Clemson can just sustain a little
31:48
Speaker 2: bit of not even necessarily drives that get points, at times,
31:53
Speaker 2: but can your bad drives be six, seven, eight plays
31:57
Speaker 2: instead of three and out? Because if so, that might
32:02
Speaker 2: add up on Miami a little bit as this game
32:04
Speaker 2: goes along.
32:08
Speaker 1: I am very interested from the Clemson perspective. You talked
32:11
Speaker 1: about a team that can maybe eke out eight, nine,
32:16
Speaker 1: maybe even ten wins. When you look at their schedule
32:19
Speaker 1: the rest of the way, and Football weekends don't happen
32:23
Speaker 1: in a vacuum. Injuries pile up. Certainly, it's easy to
32:27
Speaker 1: do this right now on October 1st. Miami this weekend,
32:30
Speaker 1: Charleston Southern next week, they should win. Virginia Tech's a
32:33
Speaker 1: fun story. They're a dog right now, I think, to pit.
32:36
Speaker 1: They could have a loss coming into that October 24th
32:39
Speaker 1: game in two weeks. They might have two losses coming
32:41
Speaker 1: into that game. We'll see how the season plays out.
32:44
Speaker 1: They weren't overly inspiring last weekend, but Clemson could win
32:47
Speaker 1: that game at home. They go to Florida State, where
32:49
Speaker 1: I think, again, good game, but I think they're a
32:52
Speaker 1: little bit better than the Seminoles. They should beat Syracuse.
32:55
Speaker 1: I think Georgia Tech's a mess right now. Duke is undefeated, too,
32:59
Speaker 1: right now, but we'll see where they are in late November.
33:02
Speaker 1: And then South Carolina, who's also a mess. There's a
33:04
Speaker 1: lot of winnable games on the back half of this schedule.
33:06
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would take the over on 9.5.
33:10
Speaker 1: But I would probably take the over on eight and
33:12
Speaker 1: a half. And you're talking if Clemson can kind of
33:14
Speaker 1: just hold serve for a lot of this season, they
33:18
Speaker 1: could finish 10-2, 9-3 probably at worst, and two of
33:24
Speaker 1: their losses beat a top 10 teams in LSU and Miami.
33:27
Speaker 1: And that's not the Clemson standard. I know that's not
33:30
Speaker 1: what Dabo built in 2016 and 2018. But if you
33:34
Speaker 1: are basically the best of that next tier and your
33:37
Speaker 1: only two losses are to Miami and LSU, I'd also say, man,
33:41
Speaker 1: you can't let what happened to LSU, you can't let
33:43
Speaker 1: a snowball like that happen. Because at 10-2 with a
33:47
Speaker 1: close loss to Miami, maybe you make it into Charlotte
33:50
Speaker 1: with a one-loss ACC record.
33:52
Speaker 2: You're kind of.
33:53
Speaker 1: Getting talked about in some conversations that would happen. Not
33:56
Speaker 1: that I think Clemson is really deserving of a playoff
33:58
Speaker 1: spot right now. That's not the argument I'm trying to make.
34:00
Speaker 1: But 10-2 with losses to Miami and LSU is not
34:04
Speaker 1: the worst thing. when we think about what those teams
34:07
Speaker 1: are and might be this year. But if you lose
34:09
Speaker 1: both of them by 50, like you did week one,
34:12
Speaker 1: then I think you're kind of seen as a paper
34:14
Speaker 1: champion at that point, or a paper 10-win season. So
34:19
Speaker 1: I would like to, for Clemson's sake, I would like
34:21
Speaker 1: to see them be competitive in this game because then
34:23
Speaker 1: that does give me hope over these last seven weeks of, yeah,
34:26
Speaker 1: they're probably going to beat everybody else on their schedule.
34:28
Speaker 1: Not that you can't slip up in Doak or can't
34:30
Speaker 1: slip up to James Franklin or Lenore Sellers couldn't have
34:32
Speaker 1: a go-off game in a rivalry. He's done it before.
34:35
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that the way that Clemson looks,
34:38
Speaker 1: even in a potential loss, if they cover the spread,
34:41
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. If they cover the spread, I'd
34:43
Speaker 1: feel a lot more confident about the direction that Clemson's
34:44
Speaker 1: season is heading. Though, you know, I don't think this
34:48
Speaker 1: is a playoff team that goes and wins multiple games
34:50
Speaker 1: or anything like that. But I'd feel better about where
34:52
Speaker 1: they were overall.
34:54
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the other side of it, too, is
34:57
Speaker 2: just what were the reactions when Davo hired Chad Morris, right? Like,
35:03
Speaker 2: There's some of that there where it looked like he
35:06
Speaker 2: was kind of getting into a little bit of old
35:10
Speaker 2: man bunker mentality. Maybe the old man's lost it and
35:18
Speaker 2: he's a little bit potentially not. But he could also
35:22
Speaker 2: go out in this game and get his ass beat, TJ.
35:25
Speaker 2: That's very much on the table. So I don't want
35:27
Speaker 2: to get too excited or positive on him quite yet here.
35:31
Speaker 1: But I.
35:33
Speaker 2: Do have a hunch a little bit that maybe it's
35:39
Speaker 2: a backdoor cover or something like that. But this game
35:42
Speaker 2: right now, you know, it's sitting at 16 and a
35:46
Speaker 2: half in a lot of places, which I would love
35:51
Speaker 2: to bet it at 17 and a half. There are
35:52
Speaker 2: a couple that have it at 17. But, you know,
35:56
Speaker 2: I think Clemson kind of hangs around. Maybe it's a
35:59
Speaker 2: backdoor cover type of scenario. I could certainly see that.
36:04
Speaker 2: But I think that they'll offer some resistance to Miami's
36:08
Speaker 2: offense and maybe just kind of force– whether it's Miami
36:12
Speaker 2: comes out on the opening script and goes for a
36:15
Speaker 2: touchdown and then Clemson adjusts to that and it stays
36:20
Speaker 2: kind of within 7-10 for a little while, or it
36:22
Speaker 2: is the opposite scenario where Clemson shuts them down early
36:27
Speaker 2: and then Miami kind of gets it in gear. I
36:30
Speaker 2: expect Miami to pull away in this game, but I
36:32
Speaker 2: am going to take Clemson and the, and the points.
36:36
Speaker 1: I will go the other way. I hope I'm wrong
36:38
Speaker 1: on that just for Clemson sake, like to, to have
36:40
Speaker 1: them be a little more competitive this year. Cause I
36:43
Speaker 1: think it, I'm not one of these big, like, Oh,
36:45
Speaker 1: college football is better when college football is always great.
36:47
Speaker 1: So I'm not, but I do like to see, you know, I, I,
36:51
Speaker 1: I would like to see Clemson be a little more competitive.
36:53
Speaker 1: I'll tell you for Miami sake, I think the exact
36:55
Speaker 1: opposite exists. Like I, I think they need to not
36:57
Speaker 1: have another scrape by an, an ACC team that we
37:00
Speaker 1: don't think is great. Um, And, you know, dilly-dally around
37:06
Speaker 1: through the whole season and then get to the playoff
37:09
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh wow, this is actual competition. I
37:12
Speaker 1: know they have to go to South Bend. So I
37:14
Speaker 1: think both teams kind of, I don't know how important
37:16
Speaker 1: it is for teams to cover the spread. I know
37:18
Speaker 1: that weather and backdoor covers and things like play into
37:21
Speaker 1: all that, but I think it's a game where Miami
37:24
Speaker 1: really needs to look impressive and it's a game where,
37:27
Speaker 1: because people will be watching, and it's a game where
37:31
Speaker 1: Miami needs to, or Clemson needs to go out and, and,
37:34
Speaker 1: and look competent as well. So, uh, interesting, but I
37:38
Speaker 1: will take the other line. I'll, I'll take Miami to, uh,
37:40
Speaker 1: to find a way to get it done. Last up today,
37:44
Speaker 1: Miami's rivals, Florida goes up to Missouri. I think Florida
37:48
Speaker 1: has handled every test so far. They took care of
37:50
Speaker 1: bad teams the way you're supposed to. They went on
37:52
Speaker 1: the road and won, I think convincingly, even though it
37:54
Speaker 1: was just five points at Jordan hair and then put a, uh,
37:58
Speaker 1: probably the singular most impressive result, um, that anybody's had
38:02
Speaker 1: so far this year in the way that they dismantled No.
38:05
Speaker 1: 4 Ole Miss. Their offense is legit. I want to
38:08
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on whether or not Florida can handle
38:11
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38:18
Speaker 1: Thoughts around Florida and Missouri.
38:22
Speaker 2: This is an interesting game. This line stinks to high heaven, man.
38:27
Speaker 2: It is very strange. It really gives me some Some pause.
38:31
Speaker 2: It feels kind of similar. Not totally similar because Florida
38:36
Speaker 2: was favored last week by like over a field goal,
38:39
Speaker 2: but they opened as a two and a half point
38:42
Speaker 2: favorite in this game. They're sitting at four and a
38:45
Speaker 2: half to five and a half right now. The Florida Gators,
38:49
Speaker 2: the ones that are the I mean, we're having a
38:52
Speaker 2: spurrier fun and gun era renaissance with Buster Faulkner and
38:56
Speaker 2: the boys and Jaden Baugh and doing the damn thing.
38:59
Speaker 2: It's just odd. It is odd. They've already been on
39:02
Speaker 2: the road in the SEC, which is usually where we
39:05
Speaker 2: see teams slip up is that first road game. There
39:09
Speaker 2: is some recent history, not with this regime of Florida,
39:15
Speaker 2: but Missouri has been a bit of a thumbtack on
39:20
Speaker 2: the floor in Florida's heel for a little while. It
39:27
Speaker 2: feels like This could be an opportunity for Florida to
39:30
Speaker 2: kind of show like, yeah, this, like if they go
39:32
Speaker 2: and dominate Missouri, I'm not sure that it changes my
39:36
Speaker 2: view of them as a potential national title contender, but
39:39
Speaker 2: it does change my view of them as like, okay, yeah,
39:42
Speaker 2: this is, this is really serious. This wasn't, they got
39:46
Speaker 2: Ole Miss off the lane train hangover and, and caught
39:49
Speaker 2: him in a good spot. Now, the thing that is
39:51
Speaker 2: a little giving me pause is I just worked on
39:55
Speaker 2: our preview content for the Georgia-Vanderbilt game, which meant I
40:01
Speaker 2: watched the All-22 tape from the Vanderbilt-Auburn game, and that's
40:07
Speaker 2: a bad Auburn offense, man. It's a really, really bad
40:10
Speaker 2: Auburn offense. Vanderbilt, who gave up 35, I think it was,
40:14
Speaker 2: to NC State, they shut that Auburn offense down and
40:19
Speaker 2: held them to 14, and somehow that group put up
40:23
Speaker 2: 39 on Florida. So I am having a little bit
40:26
Speaker 2: of second thoughts on this Florida defense, and I'm guessing
40:29
Speaker 2: that's why this line is where it is.
40:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, I also wonder, too, and I'm almost to the
40:37
Speaker 1: point now, and I believe the ESPN analytics say that
40:40
Speaker 1: if Florida wins this game, they have a 62% chance
40:42
Speaker 1: to make the college football playoff. You look at the
40:44
Speaker 1: rest of their schedule, and Kentucky's on there, and Oklahoma's
40:48
Speaker 1: on there, Florida State, Vandy, they should win. I think
40:52
Speaker 1: they should win all of those games. The game at
40:54
Speaker 1: Kentucky probably gives you a little bit of like, we'll see,
40:56
Speaker 1: South Carolina's on there. They're two tough games against Texas
40:59
Speaker 1: and Georgia. One of those happening in the state of Georgia,
41:02
Speaker 1: one happening in the state of Texas. Neutral for one,
41:05
Speaker 1: but we'll see when we get to Atlanta. They still
41:09
Speaker 1: have to travel further than they've ever had to travel
41:12
Speaker 1: to get to this game distance-wise. So I do think
41:16
Speaker 1: that if Florida can win this one and prove that
41:18
Speaker 1: they can go on the road, that is a big deal.
41:20
Speaker 1: I think they've been a top two or three impressive
41:25
Speaker 1: team in college football. Like, if you want to say
41:27
Speaker 1: Texas has been better, being in Knoxville last week, that offense,
41:33
Speaker 1: as good as their defense was, their offense was equally
41:35
Speaker 1: as not impressive to me. So, like, Texas is just
41:38
Speaker 1: kind of like this weird, like, conundrum of a team
41:40
Speaker 1: to me where it's just like, oh, their defense is
41:42
Speaker 1: going to keep them in every single game. Their offense
41:44
Speaker 1: is probably going to keep the other team in every
41:46
Speaker 1: single game. And so that's my holdup with them. I
41:51
Speaker 1: do think that Florida, it's not as stark, but their
41:54
Speaker 1: offense is so good and their defense still does have
41:56
Speaker 1: the question marks that John Sumrall's put around them that
42:00
Speaker 1: you saw Auburn put up a lot of points. And
42:04
Speaker 1: so my worry for them is there will be a
42:08
Speaker 1: game where their offense doesn't look like 2019 LSU. That's
42:13
Speaker 1: eventually going to happen. You're eventually going to have that game.
42:16
Speaker 1: That can't coincide with the defense having a bad day, too. Now, cliche,
42:21
Speaker 1: but defense travels. We'll see. Austin Simmons will have plenty
42:24
Speaker 1: of motivation for this game, not just because he's a
42:25
Speaker 1: good quarterback, but because of some recruiting stuff that happened
42:28
Speaker 1: back in the day. And if you're looking for that perfect... Oh, man, yeah,
42:31
Speaker 1: he was committed there, and then they wanted to take
42:34
Speaker 1: a second quarterback. He ended up with Ole Miss. And,
42:38
Speaker 1: you know, hasn't, you know, Napier was doing a lot
42:42
Speaker 1: of things that you're like, what the hell was this
42:44
Speaker 1: guy doing? Uh, what you had Jaden ball on your
42:47
Speaker 1: team and what, you know, what, what were you doing? Um,
42:50
Speaker 1: they also, I mean, they had, there were shot of
42:51
Speaker 1: stuff there, you know, through.
42:53
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm familiar with that.
42:55
Speaker 1: So Florida and quarterbacks, like until they.
42:59
Speaker 2: Came through Georgia for five minutes.
43:01
Speaker 1: There, uh, he played for about everybody. one of those
43:04
Speaker 1: on three graphics, which has got 17 teams on the bottom.
43:08
Speaker 1: At least he didn't have an NFL team on it.
43:10
Speaker 2: So shout out to California Penal League. I'm not saying
43:15
Speaker 2: he's illegal. He's been around, man. He's seen it all.
43:20
Speaker 1: But Simmons is a good quarterback. And I do wonder,
43:22
Speaker 1: like with this Florida secondary, I love Jaden Woods. I
43:25
Speaker 1: think he's great. And I think Obedejo is really good
43:28
Speaker 1: and has emerged there in that second edge rusher spot.
43:31
Speaker 1: A lot of people thought that would be LJ McCrae.
43:33
Speaker 1: I do think that they can get some pressure on
43:36
Speaker 1: Ole Miss or I'm sorry, on, on Missouri. But I
43:38
Speaker 1: wonder about that secondary. If, if Austin Simmons who has
43:41
Speaker 1: shown that he's capable of kind of going off at times,
43:43
Speaker 1: if he has a good day, your secondary plays down,
43:45
Speaker 1: you know, I think there's a pad and that's why
43:47
Speaker 1: the line is what it is. Missouri has been a
43:49
Speaker 1: little bit better against the run than I think Ole
43:51
Speaker 1: Miss or Auburn are now being better against the run
43:53
Speaker 1: and welcoming Jaden body or a tier hometown is, is
43:56
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, of a, of an interesting dichotomy,
43:59
Speaker 1: but yeah, there's a story. There's a, There's a perfect
44:02
Speaker 1: storm here where Missouri is able to continue those old
44:06
Speaker 1: demons of Florida struggling up there and keep it going.
44:09
Speaker 1: I don't think it happens because I trust the talent
44:12
Speaker 1: a little more, but it certainly could. I mean, it's
44:14
Speaker 1: the closest of the three games we're talking about for sure.
44:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. And I think, you know, the... Caden Lee,
44:23
Speaker 2: he's got to go off for Missouri in this game.
44:25
Speaker 2: He needs to have like 120 yards on eight catches
44:29
Speaker 2: and be able to make some explosive plays and also
44:31
Speaker 2: some draft-sustaining six-yard type of receptions, which he's fully capable of,
44:36
Speaker 2: and we've seen him do before. Him versus Kanye Clark
44:40
Speaker 2: in that kind of slot, nickel-corner role for Florida, that's
44:44
Speaker 2: probably a matchup I would think Missouri likes. Clark has
44:48
Speaker 2: been kind of iffy at times, so-so this year. I mean, metrically...
44:55
Speaker 2: If you just kind of dig into this Florida team
44:58
Speaker 2: and look at it from an advanced stat standpoint, their
45:03
Speaker 2: offense is beautiful, man. It's gorgeous. Look, I have a
45:12
Speaker 2: lot of familiarity with Buster Faulkner and great respect for him.
45:16
Speaker 2: I think he's awesome. Even when he was coaching at
45:20
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech, his family and his son continue to live
45:24
Speaker 2: kind of around here in the Athens area. There's a
45:27
Speaker 2: great football program at North Oconee high school. And his,
45:31
Speaker 2: his kid was there and like, it's just, he's somebody
45:37
Speaker 2: that I root for, I guess is the point I'm
45:39
Speaker 2: trying to make even wherever he is, you know, at
45:42
Speaker 2: Florida now. So I think that this Florida offense is
45:48
Speaker 2: very well balanced. It's for the offense. Like, what they
45:51
Speaker 2: do with Philo in terms of getting him on the
45:54
Speaker 2: move and misdirecting things and their play action and the
45:58
Speaker 2: fact that they're kind of constantly running things out of
46:02
Speaker 2: different formations but continuing to hit their bread-and-butter concepts, it's
46:06
Speaker 2: very reminiscent of the Todd Monken era of Georgia football, right?
46:11
Speaker 2: Like when that brain trust of Monken and Faulkner was
46:14
Speaker 2: kind of the offensive staff here. And that was– I mean,
46:18
Speaker 2: they didn't lose– many games in that time. They won
46:21
Speaker 2: back-to-back national titles together. That said, this Florida defense is
46:26
Speaker 2: not 2021 Georgia or 2022 Georgia. They've really struggled from
46:33
Speaker 2: a success rate standpoint. They're 77th in the country. They're
46:37
Speaker 2: not good when opponents get scoring opportunities, which is any
46:42
Speaker 2: trip inside the opponent's 40 is considered a scoring opportunity
46:46
Speaker 2: in advanced stat world for those that are not familiar
46:48
Speaker 2: with Florida has given up 4.05 points per trip inside
46:53
Speaker 2: the 40, which translates to 115th in college football so far. Yes,
46:58
Speaker 2: they did just play Trinidad Chambliss and Ole Miss. That's
47:00
Speaker 2: a good offense. Also, they were without Lacey and still
47:06
Speaker 2: almost put up 500 yards. So it will be interesting
47:09
Speaker 2: to see. It certainly seems like teams– want to hit
47:14
Speaker 2: Florida in the pass game. We're not seeing Florida have
47:17
Speaker 2: a huge negative play rate defensively against the run. There's
47:23
Speaker 2: some things to be concerned about from a line yard standpoint.
47:26
Speaker 2: They're giving up over three line yards per carry, which
47:31
Speaker 2: is basically think of that as first contact yards. There's
47:35
Speaker 2: some stuff here from the Florida defense that will probably
47:40
Speaker 2: come back to bite them at some point this year. right?
47:43
Speaker 2: Like that, that's probably going to end up being the
47:46
Speaker 2: question is, is their offense perfect enough on that level
47:50
Speaker 2: of like a 2019 LSU or 2020 Bama or somebody
47:55
Speaker 2: like that, where it just doesn't really matter.
47:58
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.
47:58
Speaker 2: It's the defense. And that's possible, man. I mean, like
48:01
Speaker 2: it really could be that way for them for a large,
48:04
Speaker 2: like they could certainly possibly ride that to a playoff bird.
48:06
Speaker 2: It's not outside the question at all, but I would
48:10
Speaker 2: still say that their defense is, needs to be better
48:13
Speaker 2: than like in the hundreds in success rate and some
48:16
Speaker 2: of these categories that really do matter from like a
48:19
Speaker 2: five-factor standpoint. They've been pretty good at not giving up
48:22
Speaker 2: the big killer explosive play to their credit. So we'll see.
48:27
Speaker 2: But I think that will be fascinating about this game
48:31
Speaker 2: because we just saw Missouri kind of struggle with the
48:35
Speaker 2: Zach Arnett defense and Mississippi State. I think has probably
48:40
Speaker 2: a better defense than a lot of people are giving
48:42
Speaker 2: him credit for, but they're not overly talented or filled
48:45
Speaker 2: with NFL players, I think is a fair thing to
48:48
Speaker 2: say without sounding like a hater. I'm pulling for him.
48:52
Speaker 2: I like Mississippi State. Go Kamario Taylor. But if Missouri
48:56
Speaker 2: is able to come out and have a better output
49:00
Speaker 2: against Florida than they did Mississippi State, that's going to
49:05
Speaker 2: feel rather informative to me. And it's going to be
49:07
Speaker 2: a bad sign for Florida's kind of long-term chances. Yeah.
49:11
Speaker 1: I wonder a little bit about Florida started really well
49:17
Speaker 1: in the only team that's led them so far. is
49:20
Speaker 1: the Campbell Camels. They got a 3-0 lead.
49:22
Speaker 2: East Carolina stand up.
49:24
Speaker 1: It started well against Auburn. It started very well against
49:28
Speaker 1: Ole Miss. What does Florida's offense look like if they've
49:32
Speaker 1: got to come back? You're down 7 at halftime, which
49:36
Speaker 1: that's not a huge thing. Maybe if you get the
49:38
Speaker 1: ball back or whatever, but you're down 10 in the
49:40
Speaker 1: second half or you're down 14 on the road. Yeah.
49:43
Speaker 1: That's a little different spot than Philo has been asked
49:46
Speaker 1: to be. And now if that, if that deficit comes
49:49
Speaker 1: early in the game, I think you still just healthy
49:51
Speaker 1: dose of Jaden bond, let him do it. The other
49:53
Speaker 1: thing with Florida is I think they've been so incredibly they've,
49:58
Speaker 1: they've been great on special teams. Like they really have
50:00
Speaker 1: brought that emphasis back and it's the part of the
50:02
Speaker 1: game that we probably don't give enough attention to because
50:04
Speaker 1: we go so heavy on offense and defense and, and
50:07
Speaker 1: special teams is not as much of a matchup thing
50:09
Speaker 1: that people dive into, but they've been so incredibly opportunistic.
50:16
Speaker 1: It's kind of the right word, but it's also just good.
50:18
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to minimize how good they've been by
50:20
Speaker 1: saying opportunistic, but think about last week. Trinidad cuts it
50:25
Speaker 1: to three points, and they immediately have a 70-yard kick return.
50:29
Speaker 1: I know he's questionable. I don't expect him to play,
50:32
Speaker 1: but Vernell Brown takes two punts back for touchdowns. First
50:36
Speaker 1: time in Florida's history that that has happened. Uh, Miami's
50:39
Speaker 1: done that once in history, Florida state's never done that.
50:41
Speaker 1: They've had kick and punt return the same game, but
50:43
Speaker 1: that's a very rare thing. And I don't care who
50:45
Speaker 1: they're playing in that game. It was Campbell. Um, I
50:48
Speaker 1: don't care who you're playing. Like everybody plays bad teams
50:51
Speaker 1: all the time. It's happened twice in Florida, Florida state,
50:53
Speaker 1: Miami's history. It's just not common. They are really good
50:58
Speaker 1: on special teams. They've got good specialists, both kicker and punter.
51:01
Speaker 1: And then they do a good job in the return game. Um,
51:04
Speaker 1: Those are the small things that I think have so far,
51:07
Speaker 1: you know, Florida's offense has been elite, like we talked about.
51:11
Speaker 1: But they're the things that turn into a 24-point win
51:15
Speaker 1: against Ole Miss is just a backbreaker of like, okay,
51:18
Speaker 1: you cut the game to three, you need to stop,
51:21
Speaker 1: you get the ball back in Trinidad's hands, you're good
51:22
Speaker 1: to go. And then they go out and bust out
51:24
Speaker 1: a 70-yard kick return score three plays later. Those are
51:27
Speaker 1: the things that I think are compensating for where the
51:30
Speaker 1: defense is from a– down-to-down efficiency basis. It's also why
51:37
Speaker 1: I think Florida probably wins this game by the spread.
51:41
Speaker 1: It is stinky. I don't like it. I probably won't
51:43
Speaker 1: take it myself. I might just take a flyer on
51:45
Speaker 1: the Florida Moneyline and add it to something. But if
51:49
Speaker 1: I had to pick one side or the other, I'm
51:51
Speaker 1: just going with the more talented team and hoping the
51:54
Speaker 1: outside factors of being on the road, reading your own
51:57
Speaker 1: press clippings, all those other things. If you look at this,
52:00
Speaker 1: I like Florida to win this by seven or more.
52:03
Speaker 1: I'd probably take them by 10 if I'm just predicting
52:05
Speaker 1: a score. So maybe it's a little lower scoring than
52:08
Speaker 1: they've been. Maybe it's like 31-21. Maybe it's 31-24 in
52:12
Speaker 1: a little closer, more fun game for a neutral. But
52:15
Speaker 1: I do think Florida covers. I'll lean their way.
52:18
Speaker 2: Is there any world where Mizzou is able to create
52:23
Speaker 2: some pressure with Darius Smith and Dayton Hopkins? I mean,
52:27
Speaker 2: Hopkins has been– Hopkins has eight sacks already this year.
52:31
Speaker 2: And 20 quarterback pressures. That's an insane amount of production
52:34
Speaker 2: for four weeks into a season to have eight sacks.
52:36
Speaker 2: That's wild. I know they weren't against great competition at all,
52:42
Speaker 2: but he had four sacks at Mississippi State.
52:47
Speaker 1: I think it's possible. I don't want to say no,
52:49
Speaker 1: because then it'll just happen. So maybe as an FSU
52:52
Speaker 1: guy and a Georgia guy, we should say that. But no,
52:54
Speaker 1: in all seriousness, I think that Florida's offensive line, I
52:57
Speaker 1: think it's been better run-blocking But they've been a lot
53:00
Speaker 1: better than I expected coming into this year. Phil Troutwine
53:05
Speaker 1: has been really, really good. I asked Allie the other day,
53:08
Speaker 1: do you think Coach Summerall was sandbagging a little bit
53:10
Speaker 1: when he was complaining about.
53:12
Speaker 2: The offensive line so much?
53:14
Speaker 1: And she said no. Her husband played with Phil, the
53:18
Speaker 1: offensive line coach. And they said no. And we had
53:21
Speaker 1: private conversations with him. He was saying, we ain't there yet.
53:24
Speaker 1: We got a long way to go. And so he's
53:25
Speaker 1: done a great job, obviously a storied offensive line coach
53:28
Speaker 1: who did great things at Penn State, and I'm not
53:31
Speaker 1: super surprised that he's gotten them. Maybe I'm surprised at
53:34
Speaker 1: how quickly it's happened, but I think their offensive line's
53:36
Speaker 1: been really good. Better in run than pass, but not
53:39
Speaker 1: bad in pass. And so I want to say yes
53:41
Speaker 1: to answer your question, long-winded way of saying I don't know,
53:44
Speaker 1: but I want to say yes to answer your question,
53:45
Speaker 1: but I've been impressed with their offensive line, and could
53:50
Speaker 1: it happen? Yes, but I kind of expect Florida's offensive
53:52
Speaker 1: line to hold up in this game and not And again,
53:57
Speaker 1: then you're also adding in the Buster Faulkner factor. If
53:59
Speaker 1: that starts to be a problem, I expect him to
54:01
Speaker 1: be able to scheme up to get out of it
54:04
Speaker 1: from a play-calling standpoint. And the way that they use
54:07
Speaker 1: pulling guards almost like as disguises, not even when they're
54:11
Speaker 1: running counter, they're so good up front. They cause that
54:14
Speaker 1: half second of hesitation for a defense. And so, yeah,
54:18
Speaker 1: I think I'd lean more Florida's offensive line. Now, go
54:21
Speaker 1: do it on the road again, all those things. But
54:23
Speaker 1: if I've got to just take a guess, I think
54:25
Speaker 1: Florida's trenches probably win that battle on Saturday. I'm buying them, man.
54:30
Speaker 1: I hate myself for it, but I'm buying UF.
54:32
Speaker 2: You're getting that Kool-Aid, man.
54:34
Speaker 1: I hear you.
54:35
Speaker 2: That orange Kool-Aid.
54:36
Speaker 1: Oh, it's gross.
54:40
Speaker 2: Look, here's my position on it. Missouri, defensively, I think
54:48
Speaker 2: we all just watch Kamario Taylor beat them and maybe think, eh,
54:55
Speaker 2: they're not great. And that, I don't think they're great, great. Like,
55:00
Speaker 2: but I think that they're probably better. I think there's
55:03
Speaker 2: still probably an inclination where you watch Mississippi State do
55:06
Speaker 2: something good and say, maybe that team's not great. And
55:11
Speaker 2: perhaps we're just not appreciating, or not you and I,
55:14
Speaker 2: but the public at large is not appreciating some of
55:17
Speaker 2: the throws that Kamario Taylor made in that game that
55:19
Speaker 2: were just legitimately unguardable, right? Uh, so I'm curious, like if,
55:24
Speaker 2: if Aaron Fowler is laying them deep balls out there
55:26
Speaker 2: like that, then that's, that's going to be quite something.
55:30
Speaker 2: But I do think that Missouri is going to offer
55:34
Speaker 2: more resistance from like a balanced team. I think Missouri's
55:38
Speaker 2: defense is pretty well balanced in terms of its ability
55:41
Speaker 2: to stop the pass and the run with enough consistency
55:45
Speaker 2: to like force Florida to drive the field and not
55:48
Speaker 2: live off all these big explosive plays. Uh, I also
55:52
Speaker 2: think that Missouri's passing game and sort of some of
55:55
Speaker 2: their explosiveness will give Florida some problems. I just don't
56:00
Speaker 2: think at the end of the day Missouri can really
56:02
Speaker 2: run the ball enough to stay balanced in this game.
56:06
Speaker 2: I think Florida wins, but actually this game gets weird.
56:09
Speaker 2: Something wonky happens. Columbia's a weird place to play. You
56:12
Speaker 2: can ask down south SEC veterans like myself. Mizzou will
56:18
Speaker 2: have some explosive passing plays in this game, and I
56:22
Speaker 2: do think they might get up at some point, create
56:24
Speaker 2: a little pucker factor for Florida. I got the Gators
56:29
Speaker 2: by a field goal, but I got Missouri covering.
56:34
Speaker 1: Just a quick recap. I'm going to go through and
56:37
Speaker 1: total up all of these on next week's complete matchup
56:41
Speaker 1: guide that we do. Last week, we both had Tennessee covering.
56:45
Speaker 1: You had Texas winning. I had Tennessee winning. I went outright.
56:49
Speaker 1: But you also took the over, so you canceled yourself.
56:52
Speaker 2: I was wrong on that.
56:54
Speaker 1: That did not happen. I took it in real life,
56:56
Speaker 1: and I was like, this doesn't look good.
56:59
Speaker 2: Five minutes in, you were like, this ain't going to be.
57:01
Speaker 1: The way that we want it. We both took Ole
57:03
Speaker 1: Miss and the money line, so don't listen to us
57:05
Speaker 1: ever again when it comes to doubting Florida. I took UGA.
57:08
Speaker 1: You took Oklahoma against the spread. And then I didn't
57:11
Speaker 1: write down what we took for USC-Oregon. I think I
57:14
Speaker 1: took Oregon. I didn't believe in USC, but I don't
57:17
Speaker 1: remember what you took. I just know I picked Oregon
57:19
Speaker 1: in my picks.
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Speaker 2: I took Oregon. I had a whole diatribe about don't
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Speaker 2: trust USC.
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Speaker 1: So I thought we did pretty well last week. We
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Speaker 1: got split a little bit with Tennessee, Texas, but overall
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Speaker 1: a good week. I'm sure we'll– well, we disagreed on
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Speaker 1: the last two. So somebody will be right.
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Speaker 2: We've had a pretty good year so far. I think
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Speaker 2: we've been at or above 500 every week, both individually
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Speaker 2: and as a team.
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Speaker 1: Not losing money.
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Speaker 2: We're making money.
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Speaker 1: That's the key. Graham Coffey, get Tim on Dog Central.
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Speaker 1: You guys do a great job over there. TJ Pittenger here,
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Speaker 1: College Football Addiction, and anywhere else that you're seeing this video.
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Speaker 1: We will be back next week to preview a bunch
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Speaker 1: of games, talk about how we did. Graham, thanks for
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Speaker 1: hanging out, bud.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Enjoyed it, man.