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- 0:25Speaker 2: Hey everybody, Good morning, Neil Savadra in the morning crew
- 0:28Speaker 2: with you.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Happy Thursday.
- 0:30Speaker 2: It's Yom Kippor today, So Bill Handle is taking the
- 0:34Speaker 2: day off for his deeply, deeply religious beliefs and we'll
- 0:39Speaker 2: be back tomorrow. Jane Goodall died ninety one years good.
- 0:47Speaker 1: For her.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Stands tall as one of those people that permeates just
- 0:53Speaker 2: about everyone's consciousness. We all knew about her from whether
- 1:02Speaker 2: it be documentaries or her speaking or I'll tell you
- 1:07Speaker 2: something how she ties to Disney coming up in a
- 1:10Speaker 2: moment too Amy k King. But Jane Goodall most of
- 1:14Speaker 2: us know. Renowned British primatologist, mythologist, anthropologist, a bunch of ists.
- 1:22Speaker 2: But really the groundbreaking work that you know the movies
- 1:27Speaker 2: were made out of and documentaries told about was with
- 1:32Speaker 2: chimpanzees in Tanzania. She was born April third, nineteen thirty four,
- 1:38Speaker 2: in London, England. She had a deep love that only
- 1:43Speaker 2: got deeper for animals very early age, fascinated with wildlife
- 1:50Speaker 2: and in particularly Africa, and she said they were sparked
- 1:55Speaker 2: by such books as Tarzan of the Apes, the Story
- 1:58Speaker 2: of Doctor Doolittle. And she had no formal scientific training
- 2:03Speaker 2: and she started to travel to Kenya. This was back
- 2:06Speaker 2: in nineteen fifty seven. She met the famous anthropologist Luis Leaky,
- 2:13Speaker 2: who would later support and mentor her research. And it's
- 2:17Speaker 2: interesting if you follow her life and go through her
- 2:20Speaker 2: biographies the people that touched her life and came in
- 2:23Speaker 2: and out of her life, that guided and gave mentorships
- 2:27Speaker 2: as well. In nineteen sixty Goodall began her landmark study
- 2:32Speaker 2: of chimpanzees, and this was in a national park there
- 2:36Speaker 2: in Tanzania. What she observed became, you know, a totally
- 2:44Speaker 2: different scientific understanding of primates. She was the first to
- 2:49Speaker 2: document chimpanzees making and using tools, and that before that
- 2:56Speaker 2: we thought that was uniquely human, noted very complex social behaviors,
- 3:02Speaker 2: emotional expressions, even family bonds among chimpanzee communities.
- 3:08Speaker 1: So all these long held assumptions.
- 3:10Speaker 2: That we had that divided us between chimpanzees and what
- 3:14Speaker 2: we do, a lot of them were squashed. All this
- 3:20Speaker 2: work led to a PhD eventually from the University of Cambridge,
- 3:26Speaker 2: and she was one of the few people to earn
- 3:28Speaker 2: a doctorate without first obtaining a bachelor's degree. I mean,
- 3:31Speaker 2: she just is an incredible and was an incredible person
- 3:36Speaker 2: recognized globally as an advocate for environmental sustainability, animal war, welfare,
- 3:43Speaker 2: rather and youth empowerment. As far as the Disney tie in,
- 3:48Speaker 2: I love this and that she when they were building
- 3:54Speaker 2: in the nineteen nineties, when they were building the Disney's
- 3:58Speaker 2: Animal Kingdom there in floor, she became one of the advisors.
- 4:04Speaker 2: So Disney really wanted to do it right, make sure
- 4:07Speaker 2: that it was done with integrity and with an understanding
- 4:11Speaker 2: of the animal's needs and not just throwing together, you know,
- 4:15Speaker 2: a park. So she reviewed the concept the whole time,
- 4:21Speaker 2: provided guidance to ensure that the facility, all the exhibits
- 4:25Speaker 2: therein reflected you know, good practices for animal care, authenticity
- 4:31Speaker 2: in portraying wildlife. And she was present during all that time,
- 4:37Speaker 2: during its construction phase, and she was there for the
- 4:41Speaker 2: grand opening. And so I went down that rabbit hole
- 4:45Speaker 2: one time looking at all the things she did there
- 4:47Speaker 2: and being impressed with everything that she brought to the
- 4:51Speaker 2: table so much so.
- 4:52Speaker 1: One of the most.
- 4:53Speaker 2: Visible tributes to her to Jane Goodall at the Disneyland
- 4:57Speaker 2: parks there in Florida, is the Tree of Life life
- 5:00Speaker 2: sculpture that's there at Disney's Animal Kingdom. There's a big
- 5:04Speaker 2: plaque on it dedicated Jane Goodall and a carving of
- 5:08Speaker 2: David Graybeard, the first chimpanzee, rather to approach her during
- 5:15Speaker 2: her early research. And there's few people in our lives
- 5:22Speaker 2: that I think you hear their name, and they don't.
- 5:30Speaker 2: They don't bring with it any luggage negatively, and she
- 5:36Speaker 2: is one of those people. And when I heard of
- 5:39Speaker 2: her passing yesterday, I started, you know, reading more about her.
- 5:43Speaker 2: And of course we've learned things in school and then
- 5:46Speaker 2: those of us have watched documentaries and different interests comes
- 5:50Speaker 2: our way. And there's something about certain people that are
- 5:55Speaker 2: single focused in life. And it's not just knowing from
- 6:00Speaker 2: a young age like she did, because a lot of us,
- 6:03Speaker 2: you know, from a young age were turned on to
- 6:05Speaker 2: something or became impassioned. It was the integrity in which
- 6:10Speaker 2: she did it. And there are a handful of people
- 6:13Speaker 2: that just transcend the garbage and noise of life, politics, religion,
- 6:24Speaker 2: social construct it.
- 6:26Speaker 1: And she did that, and I.
- 6:28Speaker 3: Think that they the similarity is always these people with
- 6:33Speaker 3: a again with the word transcending, a transcending view, a purpose,
- 6:40Speaker 3: a goal.
- 6:41Speaker 2: That it is above the noise, and it's like they
- 6:45Speaker 2: live in this higher plane, not spiritual, but like that's
- 6:49Speaker 2: above the social garbage. And I'm wondering what we can
- 6:55Speaker 2: take from her, not just the studies and the science,
- 6:59Speaker 2: but the quality of the life that she chose to
- 7:04Speaker 2: surround herself with. I mean, she'd been married, I think
- 7:07Speaker 2: at least twice. I mean, her life wasn't perfect in
- 7:10Speaker 2: any way, I'm sure, but there's something about that single purpose.
- 7:14Speaker 2: It seems like people jump around, even activists, are jumping
- 7:18Speaker 2: where the noise is trying to get the most eyes
- 7:22Speaker 2: on them, and where she was quietly dedicated and only
- 7:28Speaker 2: only took the linlight when it was purposeful to push
- 7:31Speaker 2: that single goal. And there's a success in that. And
- 7:36Speaker 2: I was once told by one of the mentors here
- 7:39Speaker 2: at KFI, Greg Ashlock, great guy, love Greg, but he
- 7:46Speaker 2: said that, you know, reminded me one time that success,
- 7:49Speaker 2: really successful people just do what other people don't want
- 7:52Speaker 2: to do, whether it's lazy or uninspired, whatever it is,
- 7:57Speaker 2: and that that consistency and single purpose and focus I
- 8:01Speaker 2: think that drives special people like Jane Goodall can be
- 8:05Speaker 2: a lesson to all of us. It just it's superior
- 8:10Speaker 2: than what most of us do on a daily basis.
- 8:12Speaker 2: It is, and I'm not downgrading the things that we
- 8:15Speaker 2: all do in our lives, so I don't care what
- 8:16Speaker 2: you're doing. It makes the system go. But there's something
- 8:22Speaker 2: about that single focus and kind of leaving traditional once
- 8:26Speaker 2: behind stuff things that clutter our homes, those types of things,
- 8:32Speaker 2: and the purest, simplest way of living to be able
- 8:35Speaker 2: to connect, in her case, with nature teaches us a lesson.
- 8:40Speaker 2: All right, So we're going to shut down and we
- 8:43Speaker 2: hear these terms all the time.
- 8:44Speaker 1: What does it really mean?
- 8:45Speaker 2: We'll get more into that, but let's look and see why,
- 8:48Speaker 2: why what is this happening? So the recent government shut
- 8:53Speaker 2: shut down day two, I think my guess is tomorrow,
- 8:57Speaker 2: if we're going to shutdown, that's when you're going to
- 8:59Speaker 2: start hearing.
- 9:00Speaker 1: At least it.
- 9:02Speaker 2: I think people will start being laid off tomorrow, that's
- 9:04Speaker 2: my guess. But it's turned into this heated political battle,
- 9:10Speaker 2: as it always does. But in this case, you're looking
- 9:12Speaker 2: at immigration and healthcare, two big things with Republicans obviously,
- 9:18Speaker 2: including House Speaker Mike Johnson and Vice President JD.
- 9:22Speaker 1: Vance.
- 9:22Speaker 2: So they're accusing of the Democrats. And really, if you're
- 9:25Speaker 2: going to get technical, Democrats are the ones holding this up.
- 9:28Speaker 2: But really, in a tug of war, they're both playing.
- 9:34Speaker 2: They're trying to give free health care to people living
- 9:37Speaker 2: in the US illegally. Democrats strongly deny this. They say
- 9:44Speaker 2: their proposal only aims to restore Medicaid coverage to certain
- 9:48Speaker 2: immigrants who are in the country legally or with government approval.
- 9:53Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the distance or difference between those
- 9:56Speaker 2: things are. If you have approval that would be legally.
- 10:02Speaker 1: Right.
- 10:03Speaker 2: So I'm not sure how they discern against what those
- 10:06Speaker 2: two things are. I'm sure there's some sort of detail
- 10:09Speaker 2: there that somebody will leave a.
- 10:12Speaker 1: Talkback.
- 10:14Speaker 2: The disagreement is kind of the key reason Congress can't
- 10:19Speaker 2: agree on how to reopen the government.
- 10:21Speaker 1: This is going to be the thing.
- 10:22Speaker 2: If you remember, the longest shut down I think in
- 10:25Speaker 2: our history was last time Trump was in. One side
- 10:29Speaker 2: may say because he's a pain in the ass. The
- 10:31Speaker 2: other side may say, well, you know what, he knows
- 10:34Speaker 2: what he wants, and he's not going to bow to garbage.
- 10:37Speaker 2: He's going to push until he gets it. So earlier
- 10:39Speaker 2: this year, a law called the One Big Beautiful Act
- 10:43Speaker 2: a Bill Act if you remember, was passed under the
- 10:46Speaker 2: Trump administration administration. So this had a bunch of rule
- 10:51Speaker 2: tightening on who among non citizens can get Medicaid, cut
- 10:55Speaker 2: out many groups who had previously been covered. Refugees, asylum seekers.
- 11:00Speaker 2: These are the folks you got to think about, people
- 11:02Speaker 2: granted special permission to enter the country. Democrats want to
- 11:07Speaker 2: include a wider range of legally present immigrants, so not
- 11:12Speaker 2: just those categories, but others. So about one point four
- 11:15Speaker 2: million people could lose their health coverage under the new
- 11:19Speaker 2: law if.
- 11:20Speaker 1: No changes are made. Now.
- 11:22Speaker 2: My understanding though, is anybody can walk into an er.
- 11:29Speaker 2: It's one of the issues with a legal immigration. Anyone
- 11:31Speaker 2: can walk into an ER and still get coverage. They
- 11:35Speaker 2: can't turn you away. Now, there could be some point
- 11:38Speaker 2: if they find something and you need other tests or
- 11:42Speaker 2: what have you, but that is one way. That's one
- 11:45Speaker 2: of the burdens on the system that some would complain saying, yes,
- 11:49Speaker 2: but you know, illegal immigrants can go in there and
- 11:53Speaker 2: tax our system just by using the er system.
- 11:57Speaker 1: Republicans argue that some.
- 11:59Speaker 2: Of the immigrants, immigrants that Democrats want to help, brought
- 12:04Speaker 2: in under programs that they see as unlawful, especially ones
- 12:07Speaker 2: given parole under President Biden. These become a sticking point.
- 12:13Speaker 2: So these are folks from Venezuela. These could also be
- 12:18Speaker 2: Ukrainians by the way, that were allowed to enter for
- 12:21Speaker 2: humanitarian reasons. And I say that because on both sides,
- 12:27Speaker 2: and it bugs me on both sides. Whether you're Latino
- 12:30Speaker 2: Latino Latino and saying we got to protect immigrants, really
- 12:35Speaker 2: you don't care. You care about Latinos, and I you know,
- 12:40Speaker 2: if it was different immigrants coming, I think that it
- 12:43Speaker 2: would be different. That's why all of the immigration offices
- 12:47Speaker 2: and stuff in Los Angeles are all Latino focused. That's
- 12:52Speaker 2: the reality. But it does affect others as well. So
- 12:56Speaker 2: they were entering the US for humanitarians and could work
- 13:02Speaker 2: and live in the US legally. So the Trump team says, no,
- 13:06Speaker 2: those got to go those programs shouldn't get benefits. Legal
- 13:11Speaker 2: experts are looking at pointing out the other groups like
- 13:14Speaker 2: refugees asylum seekers clearly have recognized legal status so what
- 13:20Speaker 2: are you doing separating them? Medicaid obviously a big deal.
- 13:24Speaker 2: The only exception is for emergency hospital care like I
- 13:27Speaker 2: talked about, makes up then what they say is less
- 13:30Speaker 2: than one percent of Medicaid spending. Democrats insist they are
- 13:34Speaker 2: not trying to change that. Their focus, they say, is
- 13:37Speaker 2: on making sure millions of Americans keep getting help through
- 13:42Speaker 2: the Affordable Care Act. So some states already use their
- 13:45Speaker 2: own money to provide healthcare to undocumented residents, so that's
- 13:49Speaker 2: not something that would be messed with. But Republicans have
- 13:52Speaker 2: tried but failed to stop that in past legislation. So
- 13:56Speaker 2: this is at the core of the battle that's going on.
- 13:59Speaker 2: How does it affect us? You know, it almost gives
- 14:05Speaker 2: you an idea of how fat we are in the
- 14:07Speaker 2: government when they shut down, because you start looking at
- 14:10Speaker 2: your daily life.
- 14:11Speaker 1: What does it, How does it pierce your life?
- 14:15Speaker 2: What kind of services are not going on or if
- 14:20Speaker 2: they are going on? Then you can't help but think
- 14:22Speaker 2: about the people who are doing their jobs with their
- 14:26Speaker 2: money furload. If they're going to have back pay, that's
- 14:32Speaker 2: the way it seems that it goes. But can you
- 14:36Speaker 2: deal with back pay? Do you want to deal with
- 14:37Speaker 2: back pay. A lot of people are hand to mouth,
- 14:40Speaker 2: they're living paycheck to paycheck, and that could be a
- 14:44Speaker 2: scary proposition. So having said those things, yes, heart goes
- 14:49Speaker 2: out to those that work in the government that are
- 14:52Speaker 2: affected by what's going on in the federal government. But
- 14:58Speaker 2: I got to tell you, it goes to show you
- 15:03Speaker 2: how battles. I always say that with the right and
- 15:06Speaker 2: the left, they're playing tug awar but we're the rope,
- 15:11Speaker 2: and it goes to show you, in a small sense,
- 15:16Speaker 2: how that affects us. Now, we're only seeing it from
- 15:19Speaker 2: in this case, from the outside in. We're looking at
- 15:21Speaker 2: people that are affected immediately, meaning they work for the
- 15:25Speaker 2: government and they either have to do their job without
- 15:28Speaker 2: pay for right now, or they're not working at all
- 15:31Speaker 2: and therefore having to shut the doors of certain services.
- 15:38Speaker 2: That's what we're dealing with on a bigger level in
- 15:41Speaker 2: the United States as a whole. Whenever there's a battle
- 15:44Speaker 2: between those two sides, we're going to be the ones losing.
- 15:48Speaker 2: And to me, it's another reminder of that it's not
- 15:50Speaker 2: about them who are serving us in these government positions.
- 15:54Speaker 2: That's just a reminder of how we're all affected all
- 15:57Speaker 2: the time by squabbles and battles that go on between
- 16:02Speaker 2: the left and the right. So how is it going
- 16:04Speaker 2: to affect it, Well, there's tons of things. If it
- 16:08Speaker 2: continues to go on today being day number two, tomorrow,
- 16:13Speaker 2: I really believe that we'll start seeing some layoffs or
- 16:16Speaker 2: that card will be played more heavily tomorrow. I think
- 16:19Speaker 2: it will. I think it will actualize. I think that
- 16:22Speaker 2: kind of power. Trump doesn't seem like the type to
- 16:26Speaker 2: waste power moves, and if he is in that power seat,
- 16:31Speaker 2: I find it hard to believe that he won't utilize
- 16:33Speaker 2: that to cut some areas, if for nothing else being vindictive,
- 16:41Speaker 2: I don't put that past him. But on the flip side,
- 16:45Speaker 2: it could be cutting fat fat that they see on
- 16:48Speaker 2: the right.
- 16:49Speaker 1: So what are some of those services?
- 16:51Speaker 2: Public safety is going to be at the top of that,
- 16:54Speaker 2: so our tax money funds police, fire departments, medical service,
- 17:00Speaker 2: emergency medical services, military.
- 17:03Speaker 1: So if that is happening, this is.
- 17:08Speaker 2: Another point where they're going to be working either without money,
- 17:12Speaker 2: without pay for this time, at least not immediate pay,
- 17:16Speaker 2: or there will be some people furloughed or things like that.
- 17:21Speaker 2: It's probably one of the last things they end up doing.
- 17:25Speaker 2: But There's also a lot of infrastructure that goes kind
- 17:28Speaker 2: of without saying we don't see it, we don't feel it.
- 17:31Speaker 2: It just kind of does. It's like breathing. It just happens,
- 17:35Speaker 2: so we take it for granted. But that could be
- 17:37Speaker 2: any of the government agencies responsible for maintaining roads.
- 17:42Speaker 1: Do we even have that service in la I don't
- 17:46Speaker 1: think so.
- 17:47Speaker 4: Not in my Neahoro.
- 17:48Speaker 2: Roads potholes they should actually fill the potholes with homeless people.
- 17:53Speaker 2: They make little homes in them, transitional homes, building maintainings,
- 18:02Speaker 2: a bridge, public transportation, even airports, public parts. I mean,
- 18:07Speaker 2: I think the TSA is affected as well, so they're
- 18:10Speaker 2: not going to get paid right now while they're working. Infrastructure,
- 18:14Speaker 2: of course is a big deal. Utilities, essential services like water, sewage,
- 18:22Speaker 2: garbage collection. What does that mean that there won't be
- 18:25Speaker 2: garbage collection on garbage day during this?
- 18:28Speaker 4: Is garbage collection a federal government job?
- 18:31Speaker 2: Well, that's what it's saying, But I don't know that
- 18:35Speaker 2: it would be. Isn't that logo or maybe that is
- 18:39Speaker 2: that is regulation of those things, because that's got to
- 18:42Speaker 2: be local, right, I would think, so, I don't know
- 18:46Speaker 2: how that would deal with us specifically, because I imagine
- 18:50Speaker 2: garbage is going to be collected, but regulating, I don't
- 18:55Speaker 2: know what that means. In that does that mean they're
- 18:57Speaker 2: going to take toxic waste if you have them picking
- 19:00Speaker 2: up today? The US Postal Service delivers mail packages obviously,
- 19:04Speaker 2: while the Federal uh Communications Commission regulates telecommunications. I don't
- 19:10Speaker 2: know that that's going to cause any major problems within the.
- 19:13Speaker 1: Next few days.
- 19:15Speaker 2: Education, you've got government funds of public schools setting educational standards.
- 19:22Speaker 1: Is that gonna mess with us? Nah? I don't think so.
- 19:26Speaker 2: For a handful of days that's long term stuch stuff, research,
- 19:31Speaker 2: those types of things, any of that. If you take
- 19:35Speaker 2: a weekend, three days, gosh, maybe even a week, you're
- 19:39Speaker 2: not going to see heavy duty weight from those areas.
- 19:43Speaker 2: Your consumer environmental protections. I know Handle was talking about
- 19:47Speaker 2: food and product safety. We're not going to have that
- 19:52Speaker 2: prevent you know, poisonings and things like that. I don't think,
- 19:56Speaker 2: you know, with the way the food chain works, a
- 20:02Speaker 2: couple handful of days, maybe even a week, that's not
- 20:04Speaker 2: going to touch any that. They're ahead of those things
- 20:06Speaker 2: already as it is now. Environmental quality, clean air, stuff
- 20:11Speaker 2: like that, I don't think it's going to affect us
- 20:14Speaker 2: right away. Rights and freedoms. You've got to love this.
- 20:16Speaker 2: Civil rights, labor laws, intellectual property. The government protects all
- 20:21Speaker 2: these things. Again, is it going to push off cases
- 20:26Speaker 2: that are going on right now? Yes, those probably won't
- 20:29Speaker 2: be prosecuted or dealt with in court.
- 20:32Speaker 1: But is that going to affect us? No, but national
- 20:36Speaker 1: parks might.
- 20:39Speaker 2: You know, the national parks probably remain open, but with
- 20:42Speaker 2: a very small amount of workers. There's tons of federal
- 20:46Speaker 2: workers that aren't working today. I'm sure travel will probably
- 20:52Speaker 2: it continues, but we'll probably have delays, longer lines, things
- 20:56Speaker 2: like that. I don't think childcare stints for you know,
- 21:01Speaker 2: federally funded programs head start. They may find funding depletion.
- 21:06Speaker 2: But again, these are all longer term than the immediate
- 21:10Speaker 2: focus that we have right now. We'll have to see
- 21:13Speaker 2: what they end up being in the long term. But
- 21:16Speaker 2: if we can get this done within the next couple
- 21:18Speaker 2: of days, I know we're coming up against a weekend,
- 21:22Speaker 2: then I think the vast majority of the stuff won't
- 21:24Speaker 2: be sticky enough for us to feel all right and
- 21:28Speaker 2: crew here, Bill Handle is out today for the Jewish
- 21:32Speaker 2: holiday Joam Kippor Day of Atonement. And Ann is out
- 21:37Speaker 2: as well. I think she works tonight, so she's out.
- 21:40Speaker 2: And we've got Matthew here, happy to have him aboard.
- 21:43Speaker 1: So, you know, with all the battling going on.
- 21:46Speaker 2: Politically and late night television and everything else, in the
- 21:49Speaker 2: battle for eyeballs and earballs and everything else, it's interesting
- 21:54Speaker 2: that Fox News is pulling ahead in television. And I
- 22:00Speaker 2: find this interesting because I'm not a huge fan of Listen,
- 22:04Speaker 2: every news outlet has a bias, a bias, every single one.
- 22:11Speaker 2: That's just human nature. You can't remove that. It's the
- 22:14Speaker 2: heavy bias or the stuff that.
- 22:18Speaker 1: You know.
- 22:18Speaker 2: So oftentimes Fox News and MSNBC and stuff just it's
- 22:23Speaker 2: a little too overboard for me to where I go.
- 22:26Speaker 1: Come on.
- 22:28Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll balance them out with each other and see
- 22:31Speaker 2: if there's something in between. But you got to really
- 22:35Speaker 2: dig or remove the editorial language. However, when it comes
- 22:40Speaker 2: to those shows, those programming where you've got people in
- 22:43Speaker 2: the round talking to me, that's just like talk radio here,
- 22:47Speaker 2: you're gonna have a bias. I have a bias. Everybody
- 22:49Speaker 2: has a bias. Mine might be more nuanced than others
- 22:53Speaker 2: because of the fact that I'm not king shakes or
- 22:57Speaker 2: read no, because I am not. I do not partake
- 23:03Speaker 2: in the partisanship. I look at case by case and
- 23:09Speaker 2: that doesn't make me better than anybody else by any
- 23:12Speaker 2: stretch of the imagination. Is just the way I do things.
- 23:14Speaker 2: I'm I'm a rationalist. I want it to make sense
- 23:18Speaker 2: to me, and but it is. I thought this was
- 23:22Speaker 2: worth noting because of the times that we're in that
- 23:27Speaker 2: there's so much fighting. Yet you have the third quarter
- 23:31Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five that we're living right this moment.
- 23:34Speaker 2: You've got Fox News Channel pulling ahead of its TV competition.
- 23:38Speaker 2: That means ABC, your traditional ones, CBS, NBC, even ESPN
- 23:45Speaker 2: not a news station but sports news. And they have
- 23:48Speaker 2: an average of three point three million weekday prime time viewers.
- 23:52Speaker 2: That is more than the late night shows that get
- 23:56Speaker 2: the vast majority of the airtime. On social media and
- 24:01Speaker 2: all of those things. It also remains the top choice
- 24:05Speaker 2: in cable news. It outperforms MSNBC CNN by a wide
- 24:10Speaker 2: Morgin of margin rather in both daytime and primetime hours.
- 24:14Speaker 2: While CNN NSMMMS, I can't even say it. MSNBC saw
- 24:21Speaker 2: some of their lowest ratings in years. Fox News continued
- 24:28Speaker 2: a ninety five quarter winning streak as the number one
- 24:33Speaker 2: cable news network for primetime viewership. One of the standout
- 24:38Speaker 2: shows is The Five. I will tell you.
- 24:40Speaker 1: I've never seen the show.
- 24:43Speaker 2: I'm told it has Dana Perino, Greg Guttfeld.
- 24:47Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
- 24:48Speaker 2: I know he's a political guy and he's a pundit
- 24:51Speaker 2: and that's what he does. But the guy delights me.
- 24:54Speaker 2: I find him funny. Sometimes he's mean. I find him funny,
- 24:58Speaker 2: and I find him smart. Jesse, Jessica Tarlov and Harold
- 25:05Speaker 2: Ford Junior. So I've never watched the show, but like
- 25:09Speaker 2: I said, Greg Guttfield does make me laugh at times.
- 25:13Speaker 2: And you know, I think I've said this on the
- 25:15Speaker 2: show before. I was at a party.
- 25:17Speaker 1: It was a rather large one and.
- 25:21Speaker 2: He was there, and I've had he and I would
- 25:23Speaker 2: email back and forth many years ago. I was introduced
- 25:26Speaker 2: to him through a buddy of mine and he was
- 25:30Speaker 2: at this party and the guy who played who I
- 25:34Speaker 2: forget his name all the time, who played Jesus in
- 25:38Speaker 2: Passion of the Christ, Covill Cavil. He was there, very
- 25:44Speaker 2: serious guy by the way, and Greg Guttfeld kept trying
- 25:49Speaker 2: to get me to fight him. He says, I want
- 25:51Speaker 2: to see the two Jesus guys fight and I think
- 25:54Speaker 2: he had had a couple of pops and he's.
- 25:56Speaker 1: Like, fight, go go up and push it. I'm not
- 25:59Speaker 1: going to go up and bush them.
- 26:00Speaker 2: But that that story to me always echoes in my head.
- 26:03Speaker 2: What you know, trying to get me to fight James.
- 26:07Speaker 1: Cavill or whatever. Whatever.
- 26:09Speaker 2: Anyways, I thought this was interesting because in a time
- 26:13Speaker 2: where everybody is so partisan on these things and everybody
- 26:21Speaker 2: mocks Fox News that it it tends to be the
- 26:25Speaker 2: leader right now. I don't know what that says about
- 26:28Speaker 2: the state of our union, but it stood out.
- 26:34Speaker 4: To me when I was looking at What's that I misspoke?
- 26:36Speaker 4: It was Jim Cavezill, cavi Kevill, What Cavsill, Cavi CAVIASL, Caveasl,
- 26:44Speaker 4: I haven't Yeah, CAVIASL and.
- 26:47Speaker 2: Cavill I never remember his name. I think he's a
- 26:50Speaker 2: terrific actor.
- 26:50Speaker 1: I just never read any Yeah, and he's adorable.
- 26:53Speaker 4: But Henry Cavell, that's Superman.
- 26:57Speaker 2: Superman, Captain handsome. That guy is one of the few
- 27:01Speaker 2: men that make my knees weak. Yeah, there's something about
- 27:06Speaker 2: him that is so manly. It's like he's the exact
- 27:11Speaker 2: opposite of Kno, he's like a real man, but he
- 27:15Speaker 2: like he cooks. I don't know, he just uh, he
- 27:20Speaker 2: makes me feel like a woman. Like it's just like
- 27:24Speaker 2: the guy watching the room. Yeah, yeah, but Shania Twain
- 27:32Speaker 2: doesn't like sex though you ever heard that about her?
- 27:35Speaker 2: Wasn't there an article or something.
- 27:36Speaker 1: That you've really gotten off track? Haven't we? Oh?
- 27:40Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess we have. It's kind of like the five.
- 27:42Speaker 2: All right, we'll be back with more of whatever this
- 27:45Speaker 2: is when we return. We got Joel large guards. Is
- 27:47Speaker 2: Joel coming up when we come back or later in
- 27:50Speaker 2: the hour?
- 27:52Speaker 1: Look at the rundown.
- 27:53Speaker 2: The rundown says next, I'm trying to make you work, bro, Well,
- 27:57Speaker 2: Matt did that for us. No, but I'm trying to
- 27:59Speaker 2: keep view on point. I know where we're going. Do
- 28:02Speaker 2: you know where we're going?
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