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The Hidden Assets and Horrors of the D4VD Murder Case · Murder Files Unsealed

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  Speaker 1: Usually when we talk about a multimillionaire, there is an
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  Speaker 1: expectation of a certain kind of invincibility. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: picture the sprawling mansions, the fleet of luxury cars.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, totally. The high-priced legal team that can just
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  Speaker 2: make almost any problem vanish with the stroke of a pen.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. It is a world insulated by cash. But then
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  Speaker 1: you encounter a scenario where that same chart-topping pop star,
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  Speaker 1: someone who's objectively swimming in millions of dollars... stands up
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  Speaker 1: in a court of law and claims to be utterly,
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  Speaker 1: completely penniless.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Creates a really jarring cognitive dissonance for people. We
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  Speaker 2: are conditioned to believe that wealth is highly visible and,
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  Speaker 2: you know, deeply entrenched.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So when a millionaire suddenly claims indigence, well, the legal
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  Speaker 2: system is forced into this very uncomfortable space. They have
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  Speaker 2: to try to reconcile the lavish lifestyle on display with
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  Speaker 2: the suddenly empty bank accounts on paper.
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  Speaker 1: And that paradox is exactly where we are starting today.
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  Speaker 1: We are taking a hard look at the case of
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  Speaker 1: David Anthony Burke.
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  Speaker 2: Better known globally as the music artist D4VD.
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  Speaker 1: Right. And we're looking at the deeply disturbing circumstances surrounding
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  Speaker 1: the death of a 14-year-old girl named Celeste Rivas.
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  Speaker 2: It is a profoundly dark case.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. Okay. Our goal for this deep dive
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  Speaker 1: is to examine the actual mechanics of this case, the
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  Speaker 1: legal maneuvers, the forensic science, and the environment that allowed
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  Speaker 1: it all to happen in the first place.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we are strictly analyzing the facts at hand today
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  Speaker 2: based on the true crime investigative broadcast transcripts we have.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. We are looking through an objective lens, not taking
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  Speaker 1: sides on the legal arguments themselves. Wow. So, OK, let's
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  Speaker 1: unpack this. The inciting incident for this entire legal labyrinth
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  Speaker 1: actually happens post-arrest.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: It happens when D4VD fires his entire legal defense team.
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  Speaker 2: And we aren't talking about run-of-the-mill attorneys here. This included
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  Speaker 2: powerhouse defense attorney Alan Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. The stated reason for the split was highly unusual
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  Speaker 2: for a client of this caliber, too. Jackson cited, quote,
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  Speaker 2: circumstances beyond our control.
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  Speaker 1: Which heavily implies money, right?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. It heavily implied and later essentially confirmed that it
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  Speaker 2: all came down to a sudden alleged lack of funds.
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  Speaker 1: So there is a dispute over a bad jail cell,
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  Speaker 1: no bail, and suddenly this global superstar claims he needs
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  Speaker 1: a taxpayer-funded public defender, which, I mean, if you look
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  Speaker 1: at his career trajectory, that makes absolutely no sense on
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  Speaker 1: the surface.
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  Speaker 2: Not at all.
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  Speaker 1: This is a guy who just exploded on YouTube and TikTok.
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  Speaker 1: That multi-platform rise led to a massive, near $ 19 million
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  Speaker 1: contract with Interscope Records.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the payout from that alone was $ 11 million.
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  Speaker 1: $ 11 million. Overall, his music earnings totaled at least $ 10
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  Speaker 1: million over just the last two and a half years.
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  Speaker 2: But see, that is just the liquid cash from the
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  Speaker 2: music side. The actual infrastructure of his wealth is vast. Right.
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  Speaker 2: We are talking about multiple corporate entities that he reportedly
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  Speaker 2: owns or directs. Things like D4VD Entertainment, Skull Rose Merchandising,
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  Speaker 2: Headspace Publishing.
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  Speaker 1: So an empire.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. This isn't just a musician getting handed a weekly paycheck.
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  Speaker 2: This is a highly structured, multimillion-dollar corporation that is masquerading
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  Speaker 2: as a single artist.
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  Speaker 1: Which makes the timeline of his asset management so fascinating.
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  Speaker 1: Because immediately after authorities executed search warrants on his residences,
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  Speaker 1: this massive restructuring happened.
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  Speaker 2: Very convenient restructuring.
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  Speaker 1: Totally. Two homes, one valued at $ 850, 000 and another at $ 375, 000,
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  Speaker 1: were transferred out of his trust.
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  Speaker 2: And moved directly into the name of his mother, Colleen
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  Speaker 2: Roberts Burke.
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  Speaker 1: So to understand why that happens, you have to look
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  Speaker 1: at the psychological and legal strategy of financial concealment, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Often professionals will compare this kind of financial maneuvering
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  Speaker 2: to what you see in highly toxic controlling relationships.
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  Speaker 1: Really? How so?
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  Speaker 2: Well, obscuring money in this context isn't merely about saving
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  Speaker 2: cash or avoiding a civil payout down the line. It
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  Speaker 2: is a calculated tactic to control the narrative.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I see.
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  Speaker 2: By moving the money, you make the truth and the
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  Speaker 2: assets impossible to pin down. You manage the perception of
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  Speaker 2: the court, the public, and any potential civil litigants.
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  Speaker 1: It is like a corporate bankruptcy engineered to dodge a
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  Speaker 1: lawsuit but apply to a murder trial.
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  Speaker 2: That is a great way to put it.
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  Speaker 1: But how does a judge look at that and say, sure,
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  Speaker 1: you qualify for a public defender? I mean, if the
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  Speaker 1: state knows he just transferred an $ 850, 000 house to his
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  Speaker 1: mom to avoid civil liability, how does the system legally
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  Speaker 1: allow him to just shrug and say his pockets are empty?
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  Speaker 2: Well, that brings us to a fascinating, if deeply controversial,
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  Speaker 2: feature of the legal system. Defense attorneys like Randolph Rice,
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  Speaker 2: who has commented extensively on these types of cases, will
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  Speaker 2: point out that real estate is highly illiquid.
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  Speaker 1: Right. You can't just buy groceries with a house.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. You can't just snap your fingers and turn an $ 850, 000
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  Speaker 2: house into cash for a lawyer, especially not in a
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  Speaker 2: high interest market.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. That makes sense on paper.
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  Speaker 2: Furthermore, the tax code and state laws are specifically designed
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  Speaker 2: in a way that allows this movement of money through trusts.
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  Speaker 2: When the public defender's office evaluates you for indigence, they
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  Speaker 2: are looking strictly at immediate liquid access. If those accounts
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  Speaker 2: are locked up by a trustee or legally transferred to
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  Speaker 2: a family member.
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  Speaker 1: Then legally, on paper, in that exact moment, the defendant
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  Speaker 1: is indigent.
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  Speaker 2: Precisely. It is a loophole. But it's one built on
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  Speaker 2: the rigid procedural definitions of asset ownership. The court doesn't
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  Speaker 2: look at the moral hypocrisy of the situation.
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  Speaker 1: They just look at the bank account in his name
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  Speaker 1: on the day of the hearing. Right.
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  Speaker 2: And if it's empty, the state is constitutionally obligated to
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  Speaker 2: step in and guarantee his right to a vigorous defense.
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  Speaker 1: And the staggering irony here is that the machinery of
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  Speaker 1: his fame is still running. Like his streams in revenue
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  Speaker 1: actually increased after the murder.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, he was reportedly the number one Googled person last year.
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  Speaker 1: It is wild. And he's reportedly still making music. And
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  Speaker 1: his team is actively seeking new entertainment lawyers from behind
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  Speaker 1: bars to manage his career.
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  Speaker 2: It is the ultimate paradox. The corporate structure he built
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  Speaker 2: is still generating revenue. But the legal architecture of trusts
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  Speaker 2: and transfers shields him from having to spend a dime
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  Speaker 2: of it on his own defense.
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  Speaker 1: Wealth is being weaponized to protect itself, even in the
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  Speaker 1: shadow of a capital crime.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: But, you know, while this financial shell game is all
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  Speaker 1: about preserving Defervedi's future, we have to look at the
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  Speaker 1: tragic reality of the future he allegedly erased. We do.
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  Speaker 1: The human cost at the center of this case is
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  Speaker 1: Celeste Rivas. And shifting from the sterile movement of money
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  Speaker 1: to the devastating reality of what happened to her, it's
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  Speaker 1: just heartbreaking.
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  Speaker 2: The timeline of their relationship is deeply unsettling. Celeste met
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  Speaker 2: D4VD online when she was just 11 years old.
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  Speaker 1: 11. That is a child.
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  Speaker 2: And she was murdered at 14.
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  Speaker 1: You, the listener, might be wondering, how does a child
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  Speaker 1: just live in a Hollywood mansion under the radar? Where
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  Speaker 1: were the adults in the room?
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  Speaker 2: That is where the legal documentation provides a chilling context.
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  Speaker 2: Guardianship and travel papers were actually signed by her parents.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, really? Signed by her parents?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. This paperwork allowed her to travel overseas with him
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  Speaker 2: to stay at his home in Texas and And eventually
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  Speaker 2: she ended up completely unchaperoned in his Los Angeles mansion.
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  Speaker 1: So she is legally sanctioned to be in this environment.
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  Speaker 1: But the environment itself is what is so incredibly dangerous.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about a young, incredibly wealthy star surrounded by
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  Speaker 1: an entourage.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. And this introduces the concept of entitlement completely erasing boundaries.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: When you take a young star and surround them with
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  Speaker 2: yes men, people whose livelihoods, housing and social status depend
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  Speaker 2: entirely on that star's happiness. Well, you create a reality
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  Speaker 2: distortion field.
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  Speaker 1: Normal social guardrails simply do not exist.
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  Speaker 2: Take his co-manager, Rob Morgan, who lived in the house.
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  Speaker 2: The prevailing allegation is that Morgan's primary concern was just
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  Speaker 2: ensuring the tour schedule continued.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: When everyone in a house is focused on protecting a
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  Speaker 2: revenue stream, managing the asset takes priority over protecting a child.
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  Speaker 1: Here's where it gets really interesting, or rather, deeply disturbing.
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  Speaker 1: The lack of accountability manifests in the most horrific ways imaginable.
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  Speaker 2: It really does.
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  Speaker 1: The text messages revealed in court highlight this cognitive dissonance perfectly.
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  Speaker 1: Celeste had been pregnant and had an abortion.
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  Speaker 2: A procedure that was allegedly orchestrated by D4VD.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. She texted him afterwards saying, quote.
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  Speaker 2: The psychological weight of that message from a 14-year-old child
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  Speaker 2: is staggering. She is grappling with immense, profound trauma. She
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  Speaker 2: is isolated, navigating an adult situation with the emotional capacity
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  Speaker 2: of a middle schooler.
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  Speaker 1: And his response to this grieving child was, quote, I'm
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  Speaker 1: saddened by the way it was conceived outside of marriage,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't dwell on it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't dwell on it. The chilling detachment in that
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  Speaker 2: statement tells you everything you need to know about the
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  Speaker 2: power dynamic there.
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  Speaker 1: It's a complete dismissal of her agony. Totally.
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  Speaker 2: To him, it was a logistical problem that had been solved.
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  Speaker 2: To her... It was a life-altering trauma.
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  Speaker 1: The contrast between her reality and his is sickening. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Celeste was found wearing a small engagement ring.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, she was texting him that she wanted more for
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  Speaker 2: herself than just, quote, hanging out and having sex.
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  Speaker 1: She genuinely believed she was buying into a happily ever after. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: he is living this lavish, grotesque lifestyle. There are reports
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  Speaker 1: of him wearing an I Love Boobs t-shirt while a
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  Speaker 1: fleet of assistants literally rubbed oil on his body in
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  Speaker 1: this mansion.
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  Speaker 2: It paints a picture of a profound ego unchecked by
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  Speaker 2: any adult supervision. You have a child begging for emotional
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  Speaker 2: recognition and an adult star being pampered by sycophants.
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  Speaker 1: But surely the people rubbing oil on him, the managers
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  Speaker 1: living in the house, surely they knew how old she was.
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  Speaker 2: You would think so.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, she was wearing a Batman zip-up sweatshirt and
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  Speaker 1: looked like a sixth grader in her photos. Even if
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  Speaker 1: she allegedly claimed to be 18 or 13 at different times,
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  Speaker 1: the adults in that room had to know this was
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  Speaker 1: a child.
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  Speaker 2: They almost certainly did. But in an environment of absolute entitlement,
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  Speaker 2: boundary violations stop feeling like violations to the people inside
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  Speaker 2: the bubble.
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  Speaker 1: It just becomes normal to them.
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  Speaker 2: Right. A child stops being seen as a vulnerable human being.
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  Speaker 2: and starts being seen as a complication, an option, or
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  Speaker 2: a liability to be managed. The entourage wasn't brave enough,
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  Speaker 2: or financially independent enough, to say no.
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  Speaker 1: And that complete erasure of empathy is what ultimately leads
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  Speaker 1: to the physical reality of the crime. Because when a
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  Speaker 1: human being is just a liability to be managed, getting
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  Speaker 1: rid of them becomes a logistical task.
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  Speaker 2: It's like a gruesome one.
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  Speaker 1: Very. And to hide a crime of that magnitude in
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  Speaker 1: a densely populated luxury neighborhood requires a chilling level of
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  Speaker 1: technical cleanup. which is exactly why the state had to
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  Speaker 1: bring in specialized scientific disciplines just to figure out what happened.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. The premeditation and the sheer scale of the forensic
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  Speaker 2: aftermath are really unprecedented. We have to start with the
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  Speaker 2: medical examiner's findings. The cause of death was determined to
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  Speaker 2: be a sharp force injury to the chest, specifically an
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  Speaker 2: insult to the liver.
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  Speaker 1: A lacerated liver is not a quick, cinematic death. It
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  Speaker 1: results in hypovolemic shock. She would have languished, bleeding out
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  Speaker 1: over a protracted period of time.
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  Speaker 2: It is a slow, agonizing end.
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  Speaker 1: And what is truly horrifying is the evidence of preparation.
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  Speaker 1: D4VD had allegedly purchased a body bag in advance.
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  Speaker 2: Purchasing a body bag as a civilian is incredibly rare
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  Speaker 2: and speaks volumes about the intent.
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  Speaker 1: Seriously.
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  Speaker 2: It shows he knew exactly what was coming and knew
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  Speaker 2: it would be a massive biological event. This wasn't a
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  Speaker 2: sudden crime of passion where someone panics. This was a
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  Speaker 2: calculated logistical plan.
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  Speaker 1: Which explains the kiddie pool found in his garage.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. From a forensic standpoint, a kiddie pool is used
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  Speaker 2: for one thing in this context. Containment.
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  Speaker 1: God, that's awful.
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  Speaker 2: The body wasn't merely hidden. It was, in clinical terms,
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  Speaker 2: rendered down, disarticulated, and dismembered. Right. When you dismember a
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  Speaker 2: human body, the loss of fluid and the sheer biological
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  Speaker 2: mess is immense. They needed a waterproof containment zone to
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  Speaker 2: manage the process.
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  Speaker 1: Once that horrific process was finished, the remains were gathered
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  Speaker 1: into bags and placed into the frunk, the front trunk
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  Speaker 1: of D4VD' s Tesla.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So you have a macabre mobile storage unit parked in
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  Speaker 1: one of the wealthiest zip codes in the world. And
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  Speaker 1: investigators tracked him using door cam footage, moving this Tesla
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  Speaker 1: from spot to spot around the Hollywood Hills.
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  Speaker 2: He was literally shuffling a decomposing body around his neighborhood
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  Speaker 2: just to avoid getting booted by parking enforcement.
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  Speaker 1: It really highlights the surreal, mundane reality of covering up
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  Speaker 1: a murder. You can dismember a body, but you still
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  Speaker 1: have to obey street sweeping signs.
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  Speaker 2: It's bizarre. But as the days passed, the decomposition process
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  Speaker 2: within that sealed frunk accelerated. When neighbors questioned a foul odor,
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  Speaker 2: D4VD allegedly blamed it on a bad smell coming from
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  Speaker 2: his bathroom plumbing.
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  Speaker 1: When authorities finally breached that vehicle, the reality was catastrophic.
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  Speaker 1: The remains are in a state of advanced decomposition, noted
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  Speaker 1: as having severe skin slippage.
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  Speaker 2: The body was essentially reduced to bones and organic matter.
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  Speaker 1: Bones and goo. And they found that the fingers had
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  Speaker 1: actually been amputated, likely to prevent fingerprint identification.
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  Speaker 2: What's fascinating here is that unraveling a crime scene in
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  Speaker 2: that state requires highly specialized scientific intervention. You can't just
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  Speaker 2: take photographs and bag evidence.
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  Speaker 1: Right, you need experts.
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  Speaker 2: They had to bring in forensic entomologists, scientists who study insects.
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  Speaker 2: They collected blowflies from their remains to establish a timeline
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  Speaker 2: of death.
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  Speaker 1: How exactly does that work? How does a fly in
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  Speaker 1: a car trunk tell you when someone died?
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  Speaker 2: Well, the life cycle of a blowfly is incredibly predictable.
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  Speaker 2: They arrive at a deceased body within minutes or hours
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  Speaker 2: to lay eggs. Those eggs hatch into larvae, which progress
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  Speaker 2: through specific stages of development before pupating and emerging as
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  Speaker 2: adult flies.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so it's a very set timeline.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. An entomologist takes the temperature of the environment, in
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  Speaker 2: this case the highly insulated trunk of a Tesla, and
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  Speaker 2: calculates the growth rate of those insects. Wow. By looking
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  Speaker 2: at the oldest insects on the body, they can literally
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  Speaker 2: rewind the clock and pinpoint the exact window of time
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  Speaker 2: the body was first exposed.
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  Speaker 1: That is incredible. And because the body was rendered down,
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  Speaker 1: they also had to bring in forensic anthropologists, right?
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  Speaker 2: Right. A forensic pathologist handles the soft tissue, but when
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  Speaker 2: a body is disarticulated and reduced to bone, an anthropologist
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  Speaker 2: is required.
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  Speaker 1: What are they looking for?
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  Speaker 2: They analyze the bones for tool marks. Every saw, every knife,
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  Speaker 2: every blade leaves microscopic striations on the bone it cuts.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of like a ballistic signature.
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  Speaker 1: On a bullet? That is so precise. It is.
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  Speaker 2: The anthropologist casts these marks and can tell investigators exactly
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  Speaker 2: what kind of instrument was used, the angle of the cut,
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  Speaker 2: and sometimes even the physical strength required to make it.
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  Speaker 1: So we have a premeditated murder involving a pre-purchased body bag,
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  Speaker 1: a containment pool for dismemberment, a Tesla frunk used for concealment,
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  Speaker 1: And a massive forensic investigation involving entomologists and anthropologists to
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  Speaker 1: untangle it all.
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  Speaker 2: It is a massive undertaking.
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  Speaker 1: And because D4VD successfully claimed indigence by transferring his real
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  Speaker 1: estate to his mother, the taxpayers are now footing the
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  Speaker 1: bill for the defense's side of this scientific war.
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  Speaker 2: That is where the financial maneuvering and the forensic reality collide,
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  Speaker 2: placing an enormous burden on the public.
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  Speaker 1: Because all of these experts cost a fortune.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. If D4VD had kept his private attorneys, a
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  Speaker 2: complex capital murder defense with these kinds of allegations would
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  Speaker 2: cost a minimum of $ 1 million just to get through
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  Speaker 2: the preliminary stages.
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  Speaker 1: It is not just the attorney's hourly rate standing in
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  Speaker 1: a courtroom. It is an absolute army of experts. To
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  Speaker 1: counter the state, the defense has to hire their own
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  Speaker 1: forensic pathologist, their own forensic anthropologist, a tool mark expert,
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  Speaker 1: a DNA analyst, a blood spatter expert. And these highly
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  Speaker 1: specialized professionals charge anywhere between $ 250 and $ 600 per hour.
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  Speaker 2: And you have to understand the ruthless nature of forensic
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  Speaker 2: billing in capital cases. There is absolutely no prorating.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, what does that mean in practice?
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  Speaker 2: It means if a defense attorney calls their blood spatter
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  Speaker 2: expert to clarify a detail for five minutes, that expert
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  Speaker 2: bills for a full hour, $ 300 to $ 600 for a
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  Speaker 2: single phone call.
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  Speaker 1: And they bill door to door, right? Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. The clock starts ticking the moment that expert steps
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  Speaker 2: out of their front door to head to the airport,
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  Speaker 2: and it does not stop until they return home.
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  Speaker 1: Every minute sitting on a tarmac, riding in a taxi,
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  Speaker 1: or waiting in a hotel room is billed at their
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: premium hourly rate.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Yes. The taxpayers also have to fund the independent laboratory
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: testing of any alternative theories, the drafting of their massive
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: written reports, and highly expensive physical crime scene recreation.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Physical recreation, like building sets.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Yes. If the defense wants to argue that a blood
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: spatter pattern in the garage happened differently than the state claims,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: they will physically rebuild the dimensions of that space.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: That sounds like a movie production.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: It basically is. They will use synthetic blood, hire professional videographers,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: and spend days recording alternate scenarios to present to the jury.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: It is astronomically expensive.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: That is just the physical evidence. The digital footprint of
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: this case is almost beyond comprehension. We're talking about 40
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: terabytes of data.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: To contextualize 40 terabytes, it is roughly equivalent to 10,000
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: feature-length high-definition movies.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: 10,000 movies.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Yes. This isn't just a few text messages. This is
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: comprehensive cell tower data dumps showing the location of every
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: device in that house over months. It is wiretaps. It
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: is application data from every social media platform.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: And crucially, it includes the internal telemetry from the Tesla.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Modern cars are essentially rolling surveillance states.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: They really are.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: A Tesla records GPS locations, driving speed, weight distribution in
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: the seats when the frunk was opened and closed, and
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: it has external cameras constantly recording its surroundings.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: The defense has to hire digital forensic engineers to comb
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: through all of that just to go mano a mano
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: with the state.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: So if the taxpayer is listening to this right now,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: they might be thinking, wait, this guy is actively selling
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: bloodstained T-shirts online through his merchandising company. pulling in corporate revenue,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: while I am currently paying his tool mark expert $ 600
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: an hour to fly across the country.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, that often raises a deeply frustrating question for the public.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Why must the state, meaning the taxpayer, fund this army
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: of defense experts when the defendant's guilt seems overwhelmingly obvious
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: in the court of public opinion?
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: How does the court justify this dual reality?
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Well, the legal philosophy behind this is rooted in the
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: burden of proof. The state has all the resources in
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: the world, police departments, state crime labs, infinite time. A
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: defendant facing the full weight of the government must have
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: an equal opportunity to challenge the state's methodology. The defense
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily have to prove innocence. They simply have to
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: test the state's evidence for reasonable doubt.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: So it's about keeping the state honest.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Exactly. If the state says a blowfly proves the body
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: was in the trunk for a week, The defense is
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: constitutionally entitled to an expert who can independently verify if
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: that science is sound.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: So the state is paying millions to untangle those 40
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: terabytes of data, and the defense is going to use
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: every piece of that taxpayer-funded analysis to build a strategy.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: With a body in the frunk, a kiddie pool in
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: the garage, and an airtight timeline of digital evidence, what
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: exactly is a defense attorney supposed to say to a jury?
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Who are they going to blame?
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: That is where the environment of the Hollywood Hills mansion
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: comes back into play. Defense attorneys look for the path
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: of least resistance.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: And in a house packed with people, that path leads
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: directly to the entourage.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Ah, the entourage defense. Defense attorney Randolph Rice theorizes that
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: there are simply, quote, too many people around who should
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: have seen something.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: The argument isn't necessarily that D4VD is a saint. The
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: argument is that he couldn't possibly have executed a logistical
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: cover-up of this magnitude completely alone.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Therefore, someone in the entourage or yet to be named
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: co-defendant must be responsible or at least deeply involved enough
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: to muddy the waters.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: If we connect this to the bigger picture, legally, this
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: is highly fertile ground for a defense team. They rely
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: on the concept of the empty chair.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: The empty chair.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Yes. When a crime scene is accessible to multiple people,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: you point at the empty chair in the courtroom and say,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: The real mastermind isn't on trial today.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, I see.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: You have a massive mansion filled with assistants, managers, and
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: hangers-on whose entire financial existence depended on keeping D4VD out
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: of jail and on tour.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: We know from the grand jury investigations that multiple people
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: lived in or frequented this house constantly. We know they
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: were joking on camera about a terrible smell. We know
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: friends were recorded off-camera discussing what Celeste looked like after
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: her disappearance. They knew something was horrifyingly wrong.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Take Rob Morgan, the co-manager who lived in the house.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: The prevailing narrative is that his only concern was the
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: tour schedule.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: He allegedly told a financial advisor what happened, which subsequently
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: prompted that advisor to change their grand jury testimony. So
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: the inner circle undeniably had knowledge of the event after
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: the fact.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: The horrific irony here is inescapable. The very entourage that
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: shielded him from reality, the sycophants who rubbed oil on
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: him and enabled his darkest entitlements without a word of protest,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: are now perfectly positioned to become his legal scapegoats.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: The defense will use their proximity and their complicity as
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: a weapon to create reasonable doubt.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Exactly. A defense attorney only needs to convince one single
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: juror that an assistant, panicked about losing their lucrative job,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: took it upon themselves to order the body bag and
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: orchestrate the cleanup to protect their golden goose. But logically,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: is that a viable strategy? I mean, it's hard to
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: believe an assistant would order a body bag and dismember
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: a child just to keep the boss's tour on schedule.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Does the entourage defense actually hold water with the jury
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: when the body is found in the star's personal car,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: which he was personally recorded moving around the neighborhood?
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: It is an incredibly steep hill to climb. Logically, yes.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: But remember the burden of proof. The defense does not
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: have to prove an assistant did it. Right.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: They just need doubt.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Exactly. They don't have to provide a perfectly logical alternative narrative.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: They just have to use the 40 terabytes of data,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: the sheer volume of text, the overlapping GPS locations, the
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: chaos of a house full of people to create enough confusion.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Muddy Waters, our defense attorney's best friend.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Right. They just need a juror to say, I cannot
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: be 100 percent certain beyond a reasonable doubt that D4VD
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: acted alone or acted at all in the physical cover up.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: So as the grand jury findings slowly become public record
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: and the defense experts start billing the taxpayers to sift
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: through those 10,000 movies worth of digital data. The tree
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: scope of who knew what and exactly when they knew
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: it is going to be revealed.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: We are waiting to see how the authorities leverage the
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: knowledge of those uncharged individuals in the entourage.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Because someone has to know the full story.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: The digital footprint is so vast. And in a house
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: full of people whose lives revolve around their smartphones, someone, somewhere,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: sent a text, recorded a video, or logged a location
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: that will either cement or completely unravel the entourage defense.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: It has been a staggering journey unpacking this today. We
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: started by looking at a multi-million dollar pop star, allegedly
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: manipulating the tax code and legal trust systems to hoard
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: his wealth, forcing the public to fund his million dollar defense.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: We walked through the tragic grooming, the agonizing loss, and
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the total erasure of boundaries surrounding 14-year-old Celeste Rivas. We
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: broke down the immense forensic nightmare of untangling a dismemberment
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: concealed in the frunk of a luxury car, and we
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: looked at how an entourage of enablers might soon find
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: themselves taking the fall.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: And this case matters deeply because it's so much more
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: than a sensational true crime headline. It is a masterclass
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: in how wealth, digital fame, and the legal system intersect
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: in modern society.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: It really is.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: It forces us to reckon with the uncomfortable reality that
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: the content we casually consume, the YouTube views, the TikTok streams,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: can silently fund massive corporate empires that operate with absolutely
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: zero moral accountability.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: The machinery of fame doesn't pause for ethics. It only
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: pauses for litigation.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Well said.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: The systems we interact with every day have profound real-world consequences.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Think about those 40 terabytes of digital data we discussed.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: We live in a world where every single move, every
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: text message, every heartbeat on a smartwatch, every GPS location
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: of a Tesla is meticulously recorded, stored, and analyzed.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: We are tracked constantly by the technology we choose to
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: keep in our pockets.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Yet, despite being surrounded by all of this surveillance and
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: living in a house completely full of adults... a 14-year-old
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: girl vanished into thin air, and no one said a
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: word until it was entirely too late.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: It's tragic.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: It makes you wonder. In an age where we are
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: more connected and surveilled than ever before in human history,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: how much are we choosing to simply look away from?
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: That willful blindness is the truly haunting question at the
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: center of all this data.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us for this deep dive. We'll
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: be back next time to unpack another stack of sources
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: and find the hidden connections. Until then, keep questioning what
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: you see.