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What Jeff Bridges Has Learned About Love(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: Got to get my right specs. You might be too
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  Speaker 1: far away for these.
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  Speaker 2: No, what you got? Plus two, you got 2.5s? What
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  Speaker 2: are you rocking? No, these are prescription, man.
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  Speaker 1: These are my reading glasses, but I have, let me see.
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  Speaker 2: Let me try those bad cats on.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let me see. Here you go for these. Those
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  Speaker 1: are reading.
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  Speaker 2: Just give me one pair. You don't get them both, huh? No,
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  Speaker 2: I think I'd go for the other one, man. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: let me see how I'm looking.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Huh?
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  Speaker 1: Nope. Not a little off, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not bad, but.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is better. Okay. Nothing.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to pick a wife out with those on,
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  Speaker 2: you know?
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  Speaker 1: Are you getting close?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'd like to be married.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to be. But sometimes it's out of
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  Speaker 2: your control, you know?
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  Speaker 1: Anything close?
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  Speaker 2: Not at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: Have you been close?
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  Speaker 2: I think I've been close, man. And I just wasn't like...
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  Speaker 2: Just like my heart wasn't in the right spot. My
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  Speaker 2: brain wasn't... I was touring a lot and I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: ready to like... I had two wheels out of town,
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  Speaker 2: you know?
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  Speaker 1: She kicked you to the curb where you kicked her
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  Speaker 1: or a little boat.
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  Speaker 2: She, yeah, I've had them. They've all kicked me. They've
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  Speaker 2: all at a certain point kicked me, but I deserve
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  Speaker 2: to be kicked.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I know that you mean it's tough. I resisted
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  Speaker 1: it as long as I possibly could.
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  Speaker 2: You did? Yeah. Well, you've been married. You've had a.
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  Speaker 1: We just had our 49th anniversary.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go. Oh, man.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Really a good one. I scored, man. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How'd you score that, Don?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I was making a movie called Rancho Deluxe in Montana.
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  Speaker 1: And we're... shooting in this place called Chico Hot Springs.
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  Speaker 1: They used to do brain surgery there a hundred years ago.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a hot spring place. For sure.
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  Speaker 2: Warm water. That's where I want to be cut open.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly, man. Yeah. And I'm sitting there in this hot
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  Speaker 1: tub with Harry Dean Stanton on one side and Sam
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  Speaker 1: Waterston on the other. And we're doing a scene and
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  Speaker 1: I look across and I see this gorgeous girl with
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  Speaker 1: two black eyes and a broken nose. And that juxtaposition
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  Speaker 1: of that disfigurement and the beauty. Part of the trouble
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  Speaker 1: with these interviews like this, because I've done a bunch now,
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  Speaker 1: is I end up telling the same story. I don't
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  Speaker 1: tell the story, but it's one of my favorite stories,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't mind. It feels a little funny because
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  Speaker 1: I've told it so often. So I think, I imagine
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  Speaker 1: people say, don't tell that fucking story, man.
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  Speaker 2: I've never heard it, man. You and I have never
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  Speaker 2: talked about love. So you're sitting in a tub, first
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  Speaker 2: of all, with two men.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, and I'm going to show you something. I think
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  Speaker 1: I got it. I usually don't have the thing that
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  Speaker 1: goes along with it, but I think I got it
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  Speaker 1: in my satchel here. So I'm sitting in there with
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  Speaker 1: two guys, Harry Dean Stan, Stan Watterson. See this gorgeous
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  Speaker 1: girl with a broken nose and two black eyes. I
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  Speaker 1: finally get up my nerve to ask her out. Now,
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  Speaker 1: you know, asking somebody out, you know, it's tough, isn't it, man?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's hard to get your nerve because your nerve,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes it feels like it starts at your feet and
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  Speaker 2: you got to get it all the way up your body.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm young now. I'm in my 20s, man.
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  Speaker 2: So you're virile.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm virile, but I'm not, I'm unpracticed, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, unrehearsed. Unrehearsed.
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  Speaker 1: And I go up there and I say, would you
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  Speaker 1: like to go out with me, maybe have dinner or something?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: I say, really? She says, Yeah, it's a small town.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll see you around, you know. And her prophecy
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  Speaker 1: proved true. And at the wrap party of this movie,
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  Speaker 1: she showed up and we danced and that was the
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  Speaker 1: done deal. Now we cut 30 years later. We're married,
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  Speaker 1: have three kids, and I'm going through my mail on
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  Speaker 1: my desk and And I get this letter from the
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  Speaker 1: makeup man on the show where I met this, my
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  Speaker 1: now wife.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: And he says, I was going through my files and
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  Speaker 1: I found something that might interest you. It's you talking
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  Speaker 1: to a local girl. So I have a photograph that
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to show you right now. I think I
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  Speaker 1: have it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see it, huh?
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  Speaker 1: This is a shot of the first words ever spoken
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  Speaker 1: between My wife and myself.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a dang hieroglyph of love.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't this a wild thing, man? Yeah, of course it is.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, bro.
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  Speaker 1: That's cool. And this is my prized possession. Let me
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  Speaker 1: see if I can find it.
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  Speaker 2: Get that thing out.
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  Speaker 1: This is a two-shot. Here is... The moment, and you
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  Speaker 1: can see, look at the look on my face. I'm
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  Speaker 1: totally cold cocked here, man. Look, would you like to
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  Speaker 1: go out with me? No. Click, the picture's taken. There
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  Speaker 1: it is, man.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you are smitten, dude. Oh, you can tell, can't you?
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  Speaker 2: Even from a side angle, you can see.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you see, I'm done, man. It's over, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Full smit.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, beautiful. And so, but I resisted because, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we don't want to lose our autonomy, man. We'd like to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and there's so many beautiful girls all over
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  Speaker 1: the place.
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  Speaker 2: But do you think, even while you're saying that, so
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  Speaker 2: do you think, thank you for showing me that and
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  Speaker 2: congratulations too, man. Yeah, and I was having love for
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  Speaker 2: that long, you know? I think people sometimes don't think
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  Speaker 2: that when they get into a relationship, what they do
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  Speaker 2: get out of it, if they work it well, is
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  Speaker 2: they get love.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 2: You know, people forget about that part of it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they may also get other stuff, too. But do you think, like,
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  Speaker 2: that that's one of the things that keeps a guy
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  Speaker 2: from asking a woman out sometimes is the fear of
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  Speaker 2: losing their autonomy without even thinking about that?
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's what... Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 2: Because you usually think it's just general fear, right? Because
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  Speaker 2: I never thought about it like that, like what you're saying, like,
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  Speaker 2: because I think about, oh, I'm like... I feel like
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  Speaker 2: if I'm going to ask you a lot, I feel like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm nervous, right? But I've never thought that the nerves
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  Speaker 2: are really just like a deep internal, like it's your
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  Speaker 2: autonomy showing up and be like, no, we're going to
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  Speaker 2: lose it. You think that could be true?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely. That's what it was with me. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm in my, you know, prime.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you were prime red.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I was, you know, my career
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  Speaker 1: was on the rise, all these beautiful women that were around.
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  Speaker 1: And I felt it was like literally like the cartoon
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  Speaker 1: where the eyes go out. You know, I was boom
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  Speaker 1: and love at first sight. And it was frightening to
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  Speaker 1: feel like that. Yeah. And so I was torn. And
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  Speaker 1: while I'm, you know, the high that we're looking for,
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  Speaker 1: I find, or the one I'm looking for is intimacy, right?
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  Speaker 1: And that's what marriage is. that's the playing field of intimacy.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you can, you're committed for the whole shot
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  Speaker 1: and you say, and I'm just lucky that I found
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  Speaker 1: somebody who's, I'm so, uh, attracted to, and the intimacy
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  Speaker 1: seems to grow. But your, what you, your question triggered,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we, we, we lived together for about three
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  Speaker 1: years and it was on again and off again. And, uh,
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  Speaker 1: And she says to me, hey, I know you love
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  Speaker 1: me and that you have ebulia. Now, ebulia is a disease,
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  Speaker 1: mental disorder that my mother used to tell me, which
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  Speaker 1: I have a hard time making decisions.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She was slightly joking with me, both my mom and
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  Speaker 1: my wife. She said, I know you have ebulia. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm going to go back up to Montana where
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  Speaker 1: you found me because my biological clock's going off.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: You know. And I finally worked up, I guess it
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  Speaker 1: was courage. I don't know what it was. I know
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  Speaker 1: I prayed on the thing. I got down on my
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  Speaker 1: knees and said, okay, marry me, you know. And I
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  Speaker 1: had this image of a handful of sand. There was
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  Speaker 1: one little diamond in there. And that was Sue, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I can't let that diamond go. And I gave myself
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  Speaker 1: a caveat. I said, you can always get a divorce, man.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So that was my caveat.
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  Speaker 1: Now we cut about a week later because Sue says,
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  Speaker 1: when do we want to get married? I said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: how about this weekend? Because I don't know how long
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  Speaker 1: I can hold this thing, you know.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good point. A lot of people put the
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  Speaker 2: wedding way too far out.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, man, that would have been torture. So we invite
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of our friends over to our little house
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  Speaker 1: up in Malibu, up in the hills there, and get married.
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  Speaker 1: Now we cut to Maui, the seven sacred pools. We
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  Speaker 1: have our honeymoon there. And I'm looking at this gorgeous scenery,
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  Speaker 1: but all I can do is smell the rotting mangoes, man.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a pouting....
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  Speaker 1: And she goes, what's wrong? I go, nothing, nothing. She goes, oh,
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  Speaker 1: let's annul this. I said, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's just bad fruit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and she put up with that shit for years.
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  Speaker 2: Really just that bad, just recognizing the rotten mangoes, huh?
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  Speaker 2: I feel that, bro.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, and thank God she didn't kick me to
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  Speaker 1: the curb and that I finally got with the program.
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  Speaker 1: I said, nobody fooled me.
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  Speaker 2: What made you get with the program?
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I mentioned intimacy. You know, you get
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  Speaker 1: so intimate and you go through so many bad times
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  Speaker 1: and good times. And every time you go through a
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  Speaker 1: tough time, you either give it up or your love
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  Speaker 1: and intimacy and connection have to grow to hold that
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  Speaker 1: weird thing that was threatening it.
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  Speaker 2: One thing you said, it was like you're like, I
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  Speaker 2: had like a handful of sand and there was like
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  Speaker 2: one diamond in it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy how many times in our lives, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: and really I'm just speaking for myself, I think, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to speak for like a negative or
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  Speaker 2: like downer place, but there's been times in my life
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  Speaker 2: where I've had a handful of sand and like one
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  Speaker 2: diamond that was like a special person and I chose
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  Speaker 2: the sand. But sometimes I think it was fear or
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  Speaker 2: it was like... Well, as.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about the metaphor, it's not so much choosing
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  Speaker 1: the sand for me, but it was I'm going to choose...
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  Speaker 1: This handful of sand, sand being all the bullshit. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because there's a diamond in there. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: So I said, okay, I'm going to take, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was an unconscious decision on that side. Although I
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  Speaker 1: felt it was so strongly that I gave myself that caveat,
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  Speaker 1: which is a weird thing to go into a marriage
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  Speaker 1: saying you can always get a divorce, man.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not a bad call.
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  Speaker 1: God, I guess not.
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  Speaker 2: But it worked. It worked. It worked. Anyway, obviously if
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  Speaker 2: it lasted this long, was, was there one of them
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  Speaker 2: where like, was there like a more pressing moment that
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  Speaker 2: came in? Like, yeah. What's cause one of my friends,
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  Speaker 2: I was talking with Jared Leto. He and our buddies,
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  Speaker 2: we met at the UFC fights and I was just
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  Speaker 2: randomly messaged him. And I said, Hey, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: be talking with Jeff Bridges. And he said a lot
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  Speaker 2: of nice things. And, and then he said, yeah. How
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  Speaker 2: has he had so much luck in love? Like how,
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  Speaker 2: how does, like, why does he think his marriage has
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  Speaker 2: lasted so long? It's like, yeah. Are there like, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like what was one of the tougher moments that you
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  Speaker 2: had to evolve? Because it sounds like you're saying you
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  Speaker 2: get to these moments and you either choose to kind
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  Speaker 2: of evolve and it adjusts the volume of your intimacy
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  Speaker 2: or you choose not to. And a lot of us
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  Speaker 2: choose not to at times because it feels safer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, there's something that I call, what do I
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  Speaker 1: call it? Our primal battle, our primal war. that we have.
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  Speaker 1: And it's basically, you don't get it. You don't get
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  Speaker 1: what it's like having a relationship with somebody like you.
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  Speaker 1: You don't get it. You don't understand me at all.
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  Speaker 1: And there's such truth in that, because none of us
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  Speaker 1: really know the other person, really, you know. And what
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  Speaker 1: we'll do we've started doing this and it's happened now
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  Speaker 1: as the years go on, less and less. And I
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  Speaker 1: kind of almost miss it. It just happened recently. I said,
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  Speaker 1: oh good, we get to do it again. We'll sit
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  Speaker 1: a little closer than we are here and facing each other.
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  Speaker 1: And we'll take turns, you know, whoever wants to go
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  Speaker 1: first can go first. And the person just says all
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  Speaker 1: their feelings. And the other person just listens. They don't
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  Speaker 1: think of their rebuttal. They just Their task is to
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  Speaker 1: just receive what that person, again, it's intimacy, man. Try
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  Speaker 1: to get that, get that.
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  Speaker 2: All the feelings about them, about everything?
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  Speaker 1: About everything. Got it. And we try not to use,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you, you, you, the you message. We try
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  Speaker 1: to say, this is how I feel. This is what
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  Speaker 1: I feel. Yeah. And then the other person does their
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  Speaker 1: side and the other person listens and we go back
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  Speaker 1: and forth. That often really scratches the itch in a
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  Speaker 1: beautiful way. Sometimes it doesn't. But it's really a cool
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  Speaker 1: strategy to deal with the basic thing that you don't
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  Speaker 1: understand what I am, what I'm going through. And marriage
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  Speaker 1: is a great playing field or a game board to
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  Speaker 1: really explore all of those Those emotions that are so
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  Speaker 1: real for all of us, you know, because we're all
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  Speaker 1: separate people.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But we're similar in that we're human beings and we
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  Speaker 1: have feelings.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's the closest we get. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 2: one of the closest relationships that you have. I think
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  Speaker 2: to be able to do that with any relationship is
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  Speaker 2: pretty cool. But to really look at to look at
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  Speaker 2: love as like a playing field, to look at like
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  Speaker 2: a relationship with someone else is like a playing field.
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  Speaker 2: And let's try this out. Like let's try out some
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  Speaker 2: things to see like just how brave can we get
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  Speaker 2: with like our vulnerability or with learning about ourselves. It's
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  Speaker 2: pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: And they used to have these things in tribes, like
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  Speaker 2: in certain tribes, I don't know which there's one I'm
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  Speaker 2: thinking of specifically, but they would have these kind of
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  Speaker 2: dance off things like partners would. And they would like
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  Speaker 2: try to like, like they would dance in front of
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  Speaker 2: each other, like kind of process their energies toward each other.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of fascinating.
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  Speaker 2: So I kind of related to something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, also, you know, uh, i was saying it's like
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  Speaker 1: a playing field or you know a place to practice
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  Speaker 1: relationship you know and i find it overflows into my
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  Speaker 1: work and making a movie or just being here with
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  Speaker 1: you you.
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  Speaker 3: Know yeah yeah i noticed stuff like that here's the
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  Speaker 3: same thing now i would think What you do, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm not as familiar as I might have been with
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  Speaker 3: what you're up to, but I Googled you before I
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  Speaker 3: showed up today.
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  Speaker 1: I said, God, look at this. This guy's really into
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  Speaker 1: some great interviews. I saw your interview with Mike Tyson. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That was a wild one. It was wild, dude. Dude,
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  Speaker 2: he was out of his mind, but he was also
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  Speaker 2: the most in his mind.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. And Louis C.K.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he's one of my heroes.
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  Speaker 1: So you had some great– and you get intimate on
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  Speaker 1: these things. And I bet when you finally find a
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  Speaker 1: girl or a guy, whoever, which way you're leaning– to
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  Speaker 1: connect with in that deep way i.
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  Speaker 2: Hope it's a woman i'll say this if it's a
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  Speaker 2: guy i'm gonna be shocked bro if they like yeah
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  Speaker 2: if it's an arranged marriage and it's a guy dude
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  Speaker 2: i'm gonna be i'm gonna email my mom but yeah
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  Speaker 2: dude you know i like talking about stuff like that
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  Speaker 2: and it's important and some of these people like louie's
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  Speaker 2: one of my dearest friends in the world wow man
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  Speaker 2: he's one of the deepest people i've ever met.
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  Speaker 1: In my whole life so yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I got to be at a, I went to a
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  Speaker 2: party recently and him and Bob Odenkirk were there. Have
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  Speaker 2: you ever met, got to meet Bob Odenkirk?
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, but I admire him. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He's a, and he was just like, and they were talking, dude.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: And I just got to sit there and listen to them.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, wonderful.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, that was something pretty special. But yeah,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: it is interesting. Like, cause this is the playing field
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: that we get, you know, sometimes we forget that this
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: is like, whatever it is, like whatever, like, God has
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: intended or the world or the energies of whatever, like
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: that put us here to have this, like, like a
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: fish coming to like the edge of the glass and
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: being able to like, see, just, just get like a
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: peek out into the universe. This is it. Yeah, man.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: So all the things that we want to do, we
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: have to try them while we're here. Even if it's scary,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: even if it's hard, you know?
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And don't you find, I don't know about you,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: but I'm addicted to comfort, man. I like to be comfortable. Yeah.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: And the problem is, And maybe it's not even a problem.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: It's kind of both a problem and a solution. When
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: you're comfortable, you're not growing. You're just relaxing, being comfortable.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: It's a coffin, man.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: It's a kind of... Yeah, it's a coffin.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: It's cozy.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: And all these little challenges of life. And I resist these...
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Like marriage, man. I resist this shit. Yeah. Because I
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: don't like to be challenged. Yeah. I don't want to
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: be uncomfortable. Yeah. But I notice... Every once in a
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: while I'll do these experiments on myself and I say, okay,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: you feel this way. Now why don't you just go
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: against that and do something adventurous and challenging, you know,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: and see what happens. Just to fuck around, you know.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: So I'll do that. On the other side of that,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: 99% of the time I say, wow, I got off, man.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: That was cool. I'm something other than I thought I was.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't think I could do that. I know. Isn't
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: that a wild thing?
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we forget that this is a school, I think.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: We forget that this is a school, you know? And
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: you kind of just get used to the recess. Yeah.