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I Am All In…Again: A Real Life Yale Daily News Editor (Season 4 E5 “The Fundamentals Things Apply) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, let's just do h. I am all in again
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  Speaker 2: with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast, one
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  Speaker 1: of them productions. iHeartRadio Media. iHeart Podcasts. We're gonna break
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  Speaker 1: down Season four, Episode five, The Fundamental Things Apply and
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  Speaker 1: we have a very special guest joining us today. Ella
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  Speaker 1: Piper Claffey is a Yale student and the weekend editor
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  Speaker 1: of the Yale Daily News. Is part of the managing
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  Speaker 1: board of the paper, so she basically is a real
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  Speaker 1: life Rory. Welcome to the show, Ella Piper.
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  Speaker 3: I'm excited to be here.
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  Speaker 4: I don't need to brak my own and I've been
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  Speaker 4: making that joke for many, many years now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, as part of managing board of the paper also,
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  Speaker 1: so she's basically, like I said, in real life Ry.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get into it, Ella, we found you because
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  Speaker 1: you reached out to us about my band coming to
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  Speaker 1: New Haven, Connecticut. So nice to meet you again.
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  Speaker 2: You are.
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  Speaker 1: Basically a real life Rory. Let me ask you this,
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  Speaker 1: did Gilmore Girls influence your life at Yale?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's honestly a little bit of a terrifying thought.
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  Speaker 4: That's a great question.
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  Speaker 2: I think.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, my mom and I started watching Gilmore Girls
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  Speaker 4: in fifth grade the summer after our fifth grade, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm an only child and I have a single mom,
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  Speaker 4: and it really was one of those memories where I
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  Speaker 4: was like, what am I watching? Like this is my
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  Speaker 4: own life. And so I've always been secretly super worried
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  Speaker 4: that every decision I've made since I was eleven years
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  Speaker 4: old has been like subconsciously trying to put me on
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  Speaker 4: this Rory Gilmore path. And hopefully that's not. Hopefully that's
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  Speaker 4: not entirely the case, but if it were, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: be too he ends up in a good spot.
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  Speaker 1: So, well, what does storyline that would be? Because you went,
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  Speaker 1: you did an interview with me, you reached out to
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  Speaker 1: us because you want to do an interview about the
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  Speaker 1: band with me, because we're coming to Toad's place in
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  Speaker 1: New Haven in early May. Does the Yale Daily News
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  Speaker 1: take pride in being such a big part of Gillmore Girls.
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  Speaker 3: I am sure it does.
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  Speaker 4: Actually, right now, we're having Bulldog Days, which is when
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  Speaker 4: all the newly admitted Yale students come to campus for
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  Speaker 4: a couple of nights and get a feel of what
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  Speaker 4: it's like and I was walking some people over to
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  Speaker 4: the paper last night because they're interested in writing next year,
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  Speaker 4: and I was talking about how we had our editor
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  Speaker 4: elections last weekend. I was like, yeah, it really just
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  Speaker 4: reminds you what of a historic institution it is. And
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  Speaker 4: they were like, I mean, yeah, I mean being in
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  Speaker 4: Gillmore Girls. It doesn't get much more historic than that.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it goes way back to the year two thousand.
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  Speaker 1: That's fun.
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  Speaker 3: It's been around since eighteen seventy.
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  Speaker 4: But I get don't work that all.
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, this is this is not
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  Speaker 1: on the list of questions, but I'm going to ask
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  Speaker 1: it anyway. Is there a terminology or a phrase that
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  Speaker 1: you use when somebody's been huntsburgered at the Yale Daily News,
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  Speaker 1: because because you know, is.
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  Speaker 3: There there's not, but I think we need to implement it.
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  Speaker 1: Can Can you start it? Please?
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  Speaker 3: And I get right on that.
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  Speaker 1: You take take all the credit. Sorry, you're you're you're
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  Speaker 1: not measuring up. I'm gonna have to hunts burger you
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  Speaker 1: know something like that? That's a good in ror Ray's
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  Speaker 1: Daily News years in later seasons, was anything in the
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  Speaker 1: way Gilmore Girls depicted that newsroom realistic.
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  Speaker 4: It's a very fast piece environment. I always think back
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  Speaker 4: to the episode where Rory like gives a gives a
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  Speaker 4: tour to a young Chiltern student and takes her into
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  Speaker 4: the newsroom, and it's like a fast piece of environment
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  Speaker 4: and it can heat up in a second. And then
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  Speaker 4: Parison Dona come in and argue about a pen and
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  Speaker 4: I do think it is it's a fast pe envinment.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of sillyiness going on. So they got
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  Speaker 4: they got that right for sure. It is the setting
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  Speaker 4: of how it all happens. The building, the Yale, the
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  Speaker 4: news building can accommodate a lot more writers than Gilmore
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  Speaker 4: Girls seems to think are staffing the paper. So it's
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  Speaker 4: a little bit of a bigger operation than they give
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  Speaker 4: us credit for. Her. But but yeah, they get the
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  Speaker 4: they get the spirit of the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Is there a Doyle or a Paris in your newsroom? Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Thankfully no, they wet her know.
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  Speaker 1: No. Here, here's even better question. If there were a
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  Speaker 1: Doyle and a Paris in your newsroom, how long would
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  Speaker 1: they survive?
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  Speaker 3: Oh gosh, how long would the rest survive? Is the
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  Speaker 3: real question?
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  Speaker 1: No, But I mean, would you even tolerate it. Would
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  Speaker 1: anybody tolerate that in a real life Yale environment, in
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  Speaker 1: that newsroom, the way Paris talk to people, would anybody
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  Speaker 1: tolerate that?
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  Speaker 3: I think you'd be surprised. I think people if she was,
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  Speaker 3: if she was in charge.
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  Speaker 4: People would tolerate it to if it meant that that's
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  Speaker 4: it takes to stay stay on the paper.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well, let's not concentrate on that too
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  Speaker 1: much because we don't want to tempt fate doing All right,
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  Speaker 1: let's get into the episode. What do you think of
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  Speaker 1: the episode? Overall?
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  Speaker 3: I think it's great.
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  Speaker 4: I think every time every time I watch an episode
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  Speaker 4: of Gilmer go Ser just like a one off thing
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  Speaker 4: to distress or whatever, I'm always shocked by how nothing
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  Speaker 4: really happens for forty five minutes, and it's just it's
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  Speaker 4: so wonderful.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's what life is like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right, right, all right, So this is the
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  Speaker 1: fundamental things apply Air date October twenty one, two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and three. Rory adjusts to college life. Laura I encourages
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  Speaker 1: her to start dating again. This is a big theme
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  Speaker 1: in this dating Mother and daughter dating Suki Michelle Laurle
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  Speaker 1: I are seeing a new designer for the Dragonfly in
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  Speaker 1: Luke and Laura, I have a movie night, not a date,
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  Speaker 1: but a very casual movie night to distract him him
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  Speaker 1: from being angry, which was a nice It was a
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  Speaker 1: nice gesture on loyalized part, knowing he's going through a
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  Speaker 1: very difficult breakup with Nicole and I don't know it
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  Speaker 1: must be humiliating for it anyway. Nima Barnett directed, John
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  Speaker 1: Stevens wrote it all right, Let's deal with Rory's roommate
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  Speaker 1: drama or his dorm. Paris is arguing with Janet, who
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  Speaker 1: is on a partial scholarship. She gets up at five
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  Speaker 1: am in the morning to work out, but Paris snoozed
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  Speaker 1: Rory's alarm, which makes her miss breakfast. Rory in the
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  Speaker 1: confissary runs into Marty at breakfast and his crew, and
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  Speaker 1: they know about her because of the robe on quote unquote.
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  Speaker 1: Paris later makes Rory in the roommates, including Tanna, very
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  Speaker 1: funny character, have a meeting, so is running the meeting. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: Paris and Janet race to decide if Janet will have
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  Speaker 1: to snooze her alarm or Paris will get rid of
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  Speaker 1: her craft table. The craft table stuff is hysterical. Oh, gosh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the comeback, Like, what's the deal with the seashells, the
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  Speaker 1: glitter and the globe? For God's sake, I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: talk talk about obsessed. I mean, really, you have a
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  Speaker 1: craft table. It was so good? All right, Ellen, do
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  Speaker 1: you live on campus? I do. Yes, I knew you did.
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  Speaker 1: I knew I knew you did. Have you ever had
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  Speaker 1: roommate drama?
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  Speaker 4: Well, let's see, I am a very messy person, and
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  Speaker 4: so is my roommate, and so I think in a
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  Speaker 4: way that makes we're a match made in heaven because
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  Speaker 4: neither of us can get too upset at.
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  Speaker 3: One another for being too messy.
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  Speaker 4: But there are a lot of mechanisms in place for
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  Speaker 4: dealing with roommate drama here, and there are yeah, powers
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  Speaker 4: that be whose job it is to come in and
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  Speaker 4: sort of mediate those tensions, and those powers do it
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  Speaker 4: nothing like how Paris is doing it. So just set
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  Speaker 4: everyone down trying to have a conversation. I honestly think
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  Speaker 4: in a situation like this, especially when they're when they're freshmen,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the parents might have had to go. Sometimes
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  Speaker 4: people have to move out of their suites and and
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  Speaker 4: into annex housing. If there's this much tension.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So what is dorm life like it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's wonderful.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's very something that maybe Gilmore Girls doesn't
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  Speaker 4: showcase quite as much. It's how much there is just
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  Speaker 4: like wandering back and forth between other people's dorms within
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  Speaker 4: your hall. I mean, it really is like you live.
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  Speaker 4: You live with the people you live with, and normally
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  Speaker 4: it as like four people in a freshman suite like
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  Speaker 4: they show, but but you basically live with everyone within
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  Speaker 4: like a mile radius, you and your college, and you're
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  Speaker 4: always in everyone else's dorms.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, it's a very it's a very fluid thing.
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  Speaker 4: I've spent quite a few nights on couches, quite a
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  Speaker 4: few nights sleeping over at strangers.
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  Speaker 1: That's nice. Do you think Paris had the right to
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  Speaker 1: be so upset with Janet for waking them up all
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  Speaker 1: so early.
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  Speaker 4: I'm skeptical of whether or not Janet really would have
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  Speaker 4: woken Paris up, but I think if she did, sleep
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  Speaker 4: is a really a precious commodity here and you have
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  Speaker 4: to guard it. I'm with your life, so I don't
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  Speaker 4: I don't necessarily blame her for her advocating for that
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  Speaker 4: so much.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Okay, all right, So we're gonna move on to
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  Speaker 1: Luke and Laurel II. You know, Luke's in a bad mood,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought this was a particularly funny scene. I enjoyed.
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  Speaker 1: This is one of my all time favorite Luke and
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  Speaker 1: Laurel I scenes. When she came in and he, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he was she's he's taking her mail and he's saying, no,
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  Speaker 1: no more mail, and you know, then he snaps at
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  Speaker 1: the guy who gives the free tickets to the Yankees
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  Speaker 1: game that he was gonna take Nicole to, and she said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, she has a little talk with him and
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  Speaker 1: calms it down then and says, hey, come over for
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  Speaker 1: the date. That's see. So he's in a bad mood. Laura, Why,
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  Speaker 1: as I said, he bought Yankee tickets for Nicole because
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  Speaker 1: she wants to she likes the Yankees. But they're not
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  Speaker 1: going to be using those anymore. Luke wishes he stuck
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  Speaker 1: to his own rule, never planned for anything more than
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  Speaker 1: two days in advance. What a guy, no wonder he's
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  Speaker 1: so accomplished planning out to But hey, this says a
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  Speaker 1: lot about the character, doesn't it. It really really does.
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  Speaker 1: So then Laura la invites Luke over for a movie
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  Speaker 1: night the next night. And isn't that so subtle on
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  Speaker 1: her part? She's just being a good friend, right, what
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  Speaker 1: do you think? Do you think she's just being a
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  Speaker 1: good friend.
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  Speaker 3: I think she is just being a good friend.
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  Speaker 1: Guy, I do too, I do too. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: there was an ulterior motive there, do you know?
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  Speaker 4: And I think that's what makes it so great, is
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  Speaker 4: that it's just they're just hanging out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, there's there's no romantic But.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think Luke is thinking about it differently? Do
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  Speaker 4: you think he thinks motive or maybe he does.
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  Speaker 1: He's playing it cool, he's a little nervous. Maybe he's
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  Speaker 1: just trying to be relaxed and sort of go with
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  Speaker 1: the flow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's around her. He's always, you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: a little little bit she lights his candle, so to speak.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think he was just like he thought
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  Speaker 1: about I think he It was a nice moment when
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  Speaker 1: she asked, and I think it was really like an
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  Speaker 1: wow moment for the audience watching the show. And to
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  Speaker 1: underplay it like that and just sort of look up
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  Speaker 1: and like think about it a little bit. Sure, you know,
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  Speaker 1: big deal, it's like, that's that's his moment, that's his
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  Speaker 1: his his entry inside the inner sanctum, and it's sort
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  Speaker 1: of a quasi date. So it's like that was a
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  Speaker 1: big deal for him, but he really masked it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's there, and it's the least romantic thing ever.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, she doesn't he.
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  Speaker 4: Can't talk, I mean, and she really yeah, sort of
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  Speaker 4: puts up a wall, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: But it's acts exactly the kind of fun people are
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  Speaker 1: supposed to have on a real date, if they're getting
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  Speaker 1: along and just being themselves, and that's how it can
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  Speaker 1: develop into something nice or unexpected, right, Yeah, maybe for them,
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  Speaker 1: they're both sort of like not even on that train anymore,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, it's just showing them as just true friends.
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  Speaker 1: It's really nice, all right. So the next night Luke
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  Speaker 1: shows up. He's got food, he's got burgers and fries.
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  Speaker 1: She's already ordered tons of Chinese, but it's for the
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  Speaker 1: next night, because that's how she does it. She likes
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  Speaker 1: she likes day Old. The next night, so then she
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  Speaker 1: has her rules for watching a movie, which I have
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  Speaker 1: the same rules.
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  Speaker 3: Do you really?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? I too? Yeah, I don't do talking during a film.
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  Speaker 1: I just I like watching movies alone because I can
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  Speaker 1: just get lost in it. That's what I want. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want the fourth wall broken all ever, it's.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it seems like Laura I has seen these
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  Speaker 4: movies twenty times. I mean, even you don't want to.
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  Speaker 4: I always like to sprinkle in some comment here. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: someone could say something that surprised you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I doubt it.
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  Speaker 1: I doubt So she walks him through the rules, especially
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  Speaker 1: a film like Casablanca. Luke is not a film, a file,
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  Speaker 1: so he really doesn't know about films. Was what was
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  Speaker 1: the movie he last? Same was Mister and Missus Bridges.
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  Speaker 1: What was that film?
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  Speaker 3: Something like that? I can care something?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So they so Luke and Laurela, and
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  Speaker 1: this was funny stuff because he is just, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Luke exasperated at laurel I's uh, you know, obsession with
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  Speaker 1: the rules was quite enjoyable. Okay, So all right. So
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  Speaker 1: Luke and Laurelan I ended up working together to help
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  Speaker 1: give Rory advice on her date because she calls doing
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  Speaker 1: she breaks her own roles and she answers the phone,
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  Speaker 1: and so she's on this very awkward date and it's
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  Speaker 1: not going well. It's a date that she rejected, and
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  Speaker 1: then she got it back to the chagrin of her grandmother, saying,
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  Speaker 1: you cannot ask a man out, She'll ruin your reputation.
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  Speaker 1: And then Rory says, the date that's not going well,
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  Speaker 1: it's awkward. He's sitting next to me and I'm craning
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  Speaker 1: my neck and it's just giving me a pain in
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  Speaker 1: the neck. So Luke shouts out, tell her that there's
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  Speaker 1: fan hitting her call there and she moved the other
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  Speaker 1: side of the table. So they take that advice. Phone
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  Speaker 1: rings again. Luke answers it, and it's Emily. Emily's upset
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  Speaker 1: that Laurel I told Natalie, the interior decorator who's doing
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  Speaker 1: the end, that she couldn't help her anymore because she
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  Speaker 1: made that deal with Natalie. Does it seem Ella like
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  Speaker 1: the writers are giving us a sneak peek into what
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  Speaker 1: the relationship would be like for Luke and Laureli. Is
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  Speaker 1: that what they're doing here? Are they up to something here?
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  Speaker 4: I think they might be. I think having Luke answer
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  Speaker 4: the phone, and then you sort of flash to Emily's
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  Speaker 4: face and she's so surprised, like, what's Luke doing here?
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  Speaker 3: Answering the phone.
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  Speaker 4: I think it gives you maybe a taste also like
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  Speaker 4: the drama that it would be if they were to
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  Speaker 4: be together, and the degree to which he would sort
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  Speaker 4: of like be able to play in with the rest
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  Speaker 4: of her family and her life because he gets I mean,
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  Speaker 4: he has the great suggestion for Rory for the draft
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  Speaker 4: and and then totally just bumbles with Emily as as
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  Speaker 4: I think we all would.
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  Speaker 1: Are you a big movie watcher like Laura le I
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  Speaker 1: or not like Luke? Huh No, not like Luke. Not
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  Speaker 1: like Luke.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard here to find the time to sit down
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  Speaker 4: for two hours and watch a movie. But but I
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  Speaker 4: love it when I can't.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, Rory's dating life. This is a recurring theme
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  Speaker 1: in this episode dating So after class Trevor asks her
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  Speaker 1: to dinner, tells him that she can't, but when Rory
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  Speaker 1: visits home, Lorelei encourages to date around in college. Next day,
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  Speaker 1: Roy tries to talk to Trevor, but he's a little
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  Speaker 1: he's a little turned it off. He's a little put off.
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  Speaker 4: He's not the smoothest out there, which I respect. I
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  Speaker 4: respect her come on a lot of things. I think
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  Speaker 4: it's it's really creative how she said she's going to
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  Speaker 4: be hungry until Saturday after discussing it, because it just
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  Speaker 4: gives her such an appetite. But it does make you
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  Speaker 4: think about some weird aspects of biology that you might
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  Speaker 4: not want to right before.
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  Speaker 1: But I agree. But she hints anyway, and she wants
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  Speaker 1: to go to dinner with him, and he breasons he's
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  Speaker 1: going to pick her up and they're going to go.
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  Speaker 1: Their date is not going well, so you know, we
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  Speaker 1: just discussed this. They call, They call Laurel lookes gives
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  Speaker 1: the advice the date gets better.
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  Speaker 4: One of my favorite things in this whole episode that
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  Speaker 4: I reference way too often and nobody ever really gets
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  Speaker 4: it is the urine mint anecdote, when she talked about
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  Speaker 4: how they've found traces of urine in all of them
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  Speaker 4: it's outside restaurants. I just love that, And I've never
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  Speaker 4: eaten a mint at a restaurant the same way. I
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  Speaker 4: still eat him, but I can't do it without thinking
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  Speaker 4: about that.
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  Speaker 1: You can't do the public food, and you just can't
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: do it whatever, it is, all right. At the end
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: of the episode, Rory talks to a quote unquote cute
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: boy in the laundry room she asked me if you'd
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: like to grab a cup of coffee, going against Emily's
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: advice again, and he told her he didn't think so,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: and he walked away.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Kind of hard to watch.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: It was tough, right, awkward.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: I still have to respect him because he put her
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: her freshly clean clothes into his basket in the laundry room,
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: which it takes a very kind hearted soul to do
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: that I can tell. Yeah, I've barely given up on
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: doing laundry altogether because of how it just always ends
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: up dirty right after you finished doing it.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: And good good choice of stickers rock band stickers to
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: put on that laundry back of his dismiss Ellen. Hard
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: to date on campus at Yale.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: I think there isn't a lot of a lot of
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: casual dating. Well, let me think about that a little
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: bit more. I think I can't tell if this is
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: a Yale thing or maybe just a sign of the times,
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: but it's a lot more for like, oh, you meet
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: someone at a party, than you text them for a
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: while and then maybe you go out. But I think
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: it's a much smaller school than it seems like it
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: would be. And maybe then Gilmore Girls portrays it as
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: so it might not be hard to date, but it's
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: hard to date, like without people knowing and without you
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: getting zeitgeisted a little bit.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. How we talk about it? So people are
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: more into their studies, like like.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Rory is, yeah, yeah, we'll say that, or even even
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: if they're not that into their studies, they're a little
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: they're a little nervous to put themselves out there like
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Rory did.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: So it was very very able.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: When you say smaller than people realize. What's the student population?
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: I think there's six thousand undergrad so that's about eighteen
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: hundred in every class, but it feels much much much smaller.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I think that's that's all Yale has.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a pretty tiny school.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: What is Harvor? What's hard Harvard's student plast bigger? Right,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I would think, so six thousand, Yeah, that's tiny. Yeah,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: they're only admitting six thousand every freshman year.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: No, they're admitting eighteen hundred every year.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Eighteen six thousand total. Oh my god. Yeah, there's the map. Yeah, yeah,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: what's Harvard?
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Harvard is seven seven thousand, So little, that's it.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, a small private colleges.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Rutgers got to be even smaller.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: No, not, Rutgers was huge.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Oh really?
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Oh god?
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, did you like that? I feel like I kind
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: of like I sometimes wish it was smaller here.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't mind it. I just you know, the facilities
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: were so overwhelmingly great. Yeah, I mean the math science buildings,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: you know, the Hill Center is just overwhelming. It's great. No,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I know, it was a very large campus. All right,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: hot take do you think on the first day you
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: should sit next to each other or across from each.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Other, Absolutely across from each other.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I'd never be next to each other.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: No way on a fifteenth date.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: It still doesn't make any sense to sit next to
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: one another. It's just trying too much attention to yourselves.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just I mean, I can't it's yeah, you
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: can't talk. Yeah, yeah, you're looking at the wall. Yeah,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: it's like, what.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: Only makes sense if you really want to people watch
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: and you have nothing to talk about between the two
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: of you, look at and then find right.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Do you think Rory overreacted to how bad the date
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: was going.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: No, I think it was pretty bad.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: I think it was pretty bad. I think it's sort
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: of she was so in her head about it being bad.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: That she probably made it a little bit worse, but
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: with urine mint and everything, it also sounds I think
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: the fact that he also felt the fake draft that
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: they concoct it, and then moved over to her side
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: at the table. So even even after she tried to move,
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: he followed her. He clearly wasn't the smoothest guy out
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: there either, all right.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: So yeah, bad date. You got to sit across from
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: each other. Absolutely, yeah, And if it goes really well,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: maybe second or third date, you can maybe hold hands
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: a little bit across the table. I don't know, briefly,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: maybe if you're.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: That kind of if that's your vibe.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not a handholder, you know, to keep your hands away.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: From me, hands to yourself.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Don't want it. You're in hands, no way there, all right?
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: So decorating the dragonfly in you ready for this? Ela?
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: All right? At Luke's Diner, Laurel I introduces Natalie to
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Luke and tells them she will be helping them design
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: the dragonfly. And but then Laurel I found out finds
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: out that Natalie helped design Emily's house in the past.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: That's not gonna be good for Natalie. That's not looking
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: good for Natalie. Natalie, I'd be going down because just
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: because of guilt by association. After shopping around town, laurel
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I tells Suki that she doesn't want to use Natalie
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: anymore since she worked with Emily in the past. Suki
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: insists that they need to keep her. They've been through
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: too many, they've rejected too many, and they like Natalie.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Laurel I talks to Natalie about her relationship with Emily,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: and Natalie confirms that she hasn't been in contact with
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Emily in a long time, allaying Lorealized fears, and she
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: retains her all right. Ella is laurel Eye's idea of
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: creating something on her own without Emily driving her to
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: make bad business decisions.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: I think a little bit.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely she's being a little too emotional, especially
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: because when you look around at Gilmore House, it's decorated
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: pretty well, and I think, I mean, it would be
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: an accomplishment if the Dragonfly, which I think ultimately looks beautiful,
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: once they finish, it could be sort of as as
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: polished as the Gilmore household.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: All right, So the message Laurelia is keep your head
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: about your kid. You're doing good ella, what a fantastic time.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Thank you, and we know you don't have any free time,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: and you gave us your time and we so appreciate that.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, so fun. Thanks so much for having
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: me on the show.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: And gosh, golly, and heck, you gotta come back. Please
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: come back. Let's do another episode and you know we'll think.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Yes, my favorite Gilmore Girls episode of all time, which
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: I have spent way too many hours watching and rewatching,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: is a wedding Bell Blues season five episode thirteen.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I think all right, I think I think you'll be
• 23:41
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• 23:44
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