Latest / ChabadLife.TV Street Farbrengen / Street Farbrengen Episode 110 - Life is a Farbrengen. Are You Walking Out Elevated?
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- 0:00SPEAKER_04: A fundamental principle in Chabad Chasidis comes from the Alta Rebbe who says that the name of anything reflects, at least in Lush Lakes, reflects its essence.
- 0:12SPEAKER_04: But barring the fact that this is not in Hebrew, let's apply that and talk about what we never talked about.
- 0:20SPEAKER_04: What is the derivation and the meaning and the choice of calling what we do every week street for bringen?
- 1:06SPEAKER_02: Especially since we are sitting at my beautiful dining room table every single week doing this and not actually on the street.
- 1:14SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what what does street for Brandon mean?
- 1:17SPEAKER_04: But isn't it interesting you never asked?
- 1:20SPEAKER_02: I mean, I've thought about it, but yeah, I did not ask.
- 1:23SPEAKER_04: And we never discussed it.
- 1:24SPEAKER_02: It says a little description on the website, but fine.
- 1:26SPEAKER_02: Yeah, let's read this.
- 1:30SPEAKER_04: That was many years ago.
- 1:31SPEAKER_04: A moment of creative inspiration that just wisps by.
- 1:37SPEAKER_04: Okay, so street, as you probably have thought, implies like the hood sitting on a stoop in the corner.
- 1:48SPEAKER_04: Street smarts.
- 1:49SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:50SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:52SPEAKER_04: Um so it's like application in our life.
- 1:58SPEAKER_04: And which is street smarts.
- 2:01SPEAKER_04: You take your m your brains and you apply it to the street, you know.
- 2:05SPEAKER_04: So I want to share with you something that I came across from the Frida Kareba in the Kuty de Borem.
- 2:14SPEAKER_04: And I think it's a Yesoid about Febrangans that somehow has escaped the culture.
- 2:22SPEAKER_04: Which is without having seen it before, the motivation of Street Febran.
- 2:27SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 2:29SPEAKER_04: To a degree.
- 2:30SPEAKER_04: So the Frida Kareba says that a Febregan was a Yasoid, was a foundational event in Hasidic life.
- 2:42SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 2:43SPEAKER_04: But in Darkay Chasidim, we would say.
- 2:45SPEAKER_04: True.
- 2:46SPEAKER_04: And the ways of Hasidim.
- 2:47SPEAKER_04: But he adds and says it injected a Yasoid of Yirishkite in Hasidic life.
- 2:56SPEAKER_04: So it's a foundation that in gave a foundation to Chasidic, the principles of Hasidic life.
- 3:08SPEAKER_04: So he defines it in the following way.
- 3:11SPEAKER_04: He says, When you went to a Febrangan, now I know this doesn't apply with you and me because I'm more like the what is it, the eucalyptus the eucalyptus guy hitting you in the schwitz.
- 3:27SPEAKER_02: Um You're supposed to first warm me up before you do that.
- 3:30SPEAKER_04: So the Feli Kerabba says you uh uh Febrangans, you uplift the person and you feel the people.
- 3:36SPEAKER_04: And he says that you leave the Febringon uplifted and then simultaneously feeling that the past is a dove meuse.
- 3:49SPEAKER_04: The past is the the closest word that I can think of as disgusting.
- 3:57SPEAKER_04: Meuse is like it's a meuse the kazah, right?
- 4:01SPEAKER_04: Sure.
- 4:02SPEAKER_04: So what's Pshat?
- 4:05SPEAKER_04: So he says when you get elevated, you realize that the past was stupid.
- 4:14SPEAKER_04: Right?
- 4:14SPEAKER_04: I'm putting it in our terms, street terms.
- 4:16SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 4:18SPEAKER_04: Not because that you realize your past was stupid, do you get elevated?
- 4:25SPEAKER_04: Which is what all this kind of um maybe it's like what what uh I've heard kicked around that uh Friedrich the Rebbe Friedrich Rebbe said?
- 4:36SPEAKER_04: No, the Rebbe Rashab said Freud went to look for Schmutz and he found it.
- 4:42SPEAKER_04: So you don't elevate yourself by destroying yourself.
- 4:49SPEAKER_04: And you oh well now my life is crap, so I'm gonna elevate my no.
- 4:53SPEAKER_04: You elevate and therefore you look back and you say, that was really dumb.
- 4:58SPEAKER_04: Or that was uncalled for, or I can do better, or I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna improve.
- 5:07SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 5:08SPEAKER_04: So he says, and therefore you look forward.
- 5:12SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 5:13SPEAKER_04: That's what a Febrangen is.
- 5:15SPEAKER_02: That's uh That's a pretty high um high expectation for what a Ferbragen is.
- 5:26SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm just commenting on Why expectation why?
- 5:29SPEAKER_04: Where's the expectation that's so elusive?
- 5:32SPEAKER_02: No, I'm not saying it's elusive, but you said you're labeling it as high.
- 5:38SPEAKER_02: Because, like you said accurately, I don't know how many Ferbrain's accomplish that goal.
- 5:46SPEAKER_04: Okay, so now the question Well, you're saying to me they don't.
- 5:49SPEAKER_04: Don't tell me you don't know how many.
- 5:50SPEAKER_02: No, I think there are some that do.
- 5:52SPEAKER_04: Okay, so but your point is so what so then I'll ask you again.
- 5:54SPEAKER_04: So why are you going there?
- 5:56SPEAKER_02: I'm just thinking about the fact that that's uh that's a high expectation.
- 6:01SPEAKER_02: High expectation, like it's a it I didn't mean high as an unattainable.
- 6:05SPEAKER_02: I said like that I meant like that's that would that's a really great goal to have.
- 6:10SPEAKER_02: Okay, well that's not what you and it would be pretty amazing if that's what we set out to do when we forbrance.
- 6:20SPEAKER_04: Oh okay, so you're saying it'd be pretty amazing.
- 6:22SPEAKER_04: So it would be fun and it would be great, but it's saying it's pretty amazing also sounds like you think it's not attainable.
- 6:28SPEAKER_04: But the question is now or let's follow it through, not so much the question.
- 6:37SPEAKER_04: So the Friedrich Rebra says that a Febrangel is that, and that gives a yes it brings out the soid of Chasidis.
- 6:45SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's an interesting point, yeah.
- 6:47SPEAKER_04: Okay, yeah.
- 6:49SPEAKER_04: So what does that mean?
- 6:50SPEAKER_01: What does that mean, yeah?
- 6:55SPEAKER_02: Meaning is the so the soid is the fact that your growth is independent of reflecting on your past, but knowing where or knowing now where you are going and where you're refined now to the point of I don't know if this was the point you were making.
- 7:20SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to think that that it's an interesting idea of what is the you soid of what he's talking about then.
- 7:25SPEAKER_04: It's not an idea, it's a message.
- 7:28SPEAKER_02: Okay, what's the message?
- 7:29SPEAKER_02: What do you think it is?
- 7:30SPEAKER_04: No, I'm just telling you, it's not an idea.
- 7:33SPEAKER_04: I I got ideas are for think tanks at Columbia University.
- 7:41SPEAKER_04: But let's go again.
- 7:43SPEAKER_04: It's a foundation in Hasidic life that gives foundation to Hasidic life.
- 7:48SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 7:49SPEAKER_02: Okay, let's think that through.
- 7:50SPEAKER_02: What does that mean?
- 7:52SPEAKER_04: And we say that if a brain lifts you up and then you look at the past, that it's it's echaldic to you because you're on a higher perch, and now you're looking forward.
- 8:05SPEAKER_04: Now, what do most people think and do, which is really the school of Musr?
- 8:10SPEAKER_04: Let's construct you all the way down to we rip you apart like a dog eating a like some kind of animal eating a carcass that's dead on the ground, and now we have accomplished Musr.
- 8:24SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 8:25SPEAKER_04: But that's natural for most people, especially Jews 2,000 years in in uh Gallas.
- 8:33SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 8:33SPEAKER_04: But that's not the Sheeta's of Al Shemptiv.
- 8:37SPEAKER_04: That's number one.
- 8:38SPEAKER_04: Number two is, but wait a second, isn't this carcass, you know, strewn around the street after the the dogs get to it the same thing as saying when you leave the forbring and you look at your past as a Dumber Muse.
- 8:55SPEAKER_02: Okay, I hear that.
- 8:57SPEAKER_04: I'm asking a question.
- 8:59SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm having I'm thinking about it, I don't know an answer right now.
- 9:05SPEAKER_04: So obviously it's not.
- 9:09SPEAKER_04: The sequence is totally different.
- 9:12SPEAKER_04: But at least on the pivot energy point of things, that you're going from the positive looking at the past rather than the past trying to bring you to the future.
- 9:22SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 9:23SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 9:23SPEAKER_04: That's totally different.
- 9:24SPEAKER_04: So what you're really doing if you're just burrowing into the past is you're thinking, tapping yourself on the back, oh, I have analyzed myself and I realize what a meose I am.
- 9:38SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 9:38SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 9:39SPEAKER_04: Well, that's beautiful.
- 9:40SPEAKER_04: So how do you deal with that state?
- 9:43SPEAKER_04: You have one of two choices.
- 9:45SPEAKER_04: Either you're going to say, I'm going to run like hell from this.
- 9:50SPEAKER_04: Hopefully you would say that.
- 9:51SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 9:52SPEAKER_04: Or, but since you're doing the avoida of it and you're being told that this is the way to do it, and that's your natural inclination, anyways, because that's the eighth Sahara, you're just going to sit there and think you're accomplishing something by looking at yourself as a devram meus.
- 10:12SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 10:14SPEAKER_04: And you're guilty and you know what?
- 10:16SPEAKER_04: You know how guilty a charge you are?
- 10:18SPEAKER_04: Because you said to me, Oh, that's a high expectation.
- 10:21SPEAKER_04: Why is it a high expectation to elevate yourself and then look at yourself and say, I haven't been living up to the high expectation expectation that I'm now, I mean, to the level that I'm now feeling.
- 10:34SPEAKER_04: Why is that a high expectation?
- 10:35SPEAKER_04: If you're holding the other manner, yes, it's a high expectation.
- 10:39SPEAKER_04: But it's not a high expectation.
- 10:40SPEAKER_04: Guilty as charged.
- 10:41SPEAKER_04: No, it's not guilty.
- 10:43SPEAKER_02: I'm not you're you're you're you're criticizing it, but I I understand.
- 10:47SPEAKER_02: Um I definitely I definitely see that.
- 10:52SPEAKER_02: And like you were saying though, it's the natural way of people to ruminate or the natural way of the Atsahara to have a person ruminate and think about their past.
- 11:03SPEAKER_02: And obviously the justification that a person would come to, and I'm saying a person, I'm really just saying myself, obviously, is that uh is that I'm doing it in order so that I should grow, that I should be able to learn from my past, right?
- 11:15SPEAKER_02: There's there's an idea of that, right, in the world.
- 11:19SPEAKER_02: So I'm thinking of how to combine the two, but I guess it's pretty irrelevant.
- 11:24SPEAKER_04: The justification is self is uh is is is a tautological circle.
- 11:30SPEAKER_04: Because I'm feeling crappy about myself, I'm feeling good about myself because I'm feeling crappy about myself, because isn't that what I'm supposed to do?
- 11:39SPEAKER_04: And the Rebbe points this out frequently in Igress in Igris Kadesh, where he says, he quotes this not only there, but in other places, he says it says in Shukarak, when you go to Davin, you think about Remiskel, Bashla Sa'adam.
- 11:59SPEAKER_04: Think about how great and amazing God is, and how low man is, but not the other way around.
- 12:06SPEAKER_04: You don't reach the greatness of God by Realizing you're just dust in the wind.
- 12:18SPEAKER_04: Okay, even though all we are is dust in the wind.
- 12:20SPEAKER_02: I I got that.
- 12:22SPEAKER_02: So Okay.
- 12:25SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 12:26SPEAKER_02: And when you're when you're feeling a lacking and you're divining for that, you're you're doveting from the place of brokenness or or I'm I'm trying to think of like the way that like you would a you would apply this, is that when you're thinking about the Royum I guess it's I guess it's actually exactly the same thing.
- 12:52SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
- 12:52SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're thinking of the greatness of Hashem, and so therefore you understand the mias of uh it says loneless, but yeah.
- 13:00SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, but I'm I'm combining it to what we said before that that's the same idea.
- 13:04SPEAKER_02: Okay, I I got that.
- 13:06SPEAKER_02: I could I could see that.
- 13:08SPEAKER_02: I could see that right.
- 13:10SPEAKER_04: So the last time we forbranged, what were we do you remember what we were talking about?
- 13:17SPEAKER_02: We were talking about uh God seeing God as a mafia boss.
- 13:21SPEAKER_04: As a mafia boss, right.
- 13:24SPEAKER_04: And you were talking you mentioned that things didn't work out the way you expected them to.
- 13:29SPEAKER_04: That's right.
- 13:30SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 13:31SPEAKER_04: So when things don't work out the way we expected them, expect them to, what do we usually do?
- 13:40SPEAKER_04: We ruminate, we go back to that formula.
- 13:43SPEAKER_02: That's right.
- 13:45SPEAKER_04: And we beat it to death till it has no more chaas.
- 13:50SPEAKER_04: Somebody asked me, not me personally, but they asked on the on the on our shul chat what's the word the the they I I put posted something for the Frida Kareba and they wanted to know if it meant guilty.
- 14:09SPEAKER_04: Like guilt.
- 14:11SPEAKER_04: I forget what I actually posted.
- 14:13SPEAKER_04: And I said, I don't think the Frida Karebbe uses the word guilt.
- 14:17SPEAKER_04: What's the uh Jewish what's the Hebrew word for guilt?
- 14:23SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 14:24SPEAKER_04: Uh have you seen it in Chasidis?
- 14:25SPEAKER_04: I don't think so.
- 14:26SPEAKER_04: We use the word Mariris Bitterness.
- 14:29SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but that's not guilt.
- 14:31SPEAKER_04: But that's not guilt.
- 14:32SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 14:33SPEAKER_04: Then I asked the group, was it in Yiddish?
- 14:37SPEAKER_04: So they wanted to say it was shuldik, which is like, excuse me, I thought, but anyways, I'm not an expert in Yiddish.
- 14:44SPEAKER_04: But the point is.
- 14:47SPEAKER_02: So Jews are experts in a word that doesn't exist?
- 14:50SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
- 14:51SPEAKER_04: They are the word.
- 14:54SPEAKER_04: Leonard Cohen has a song like that where he's the word.
- 14:58SPEAKER_04: He realized a little Hasidis while he was in his Zen monastery.
- 15:02SPEAKER_04: Um Lahavda.
- 15:04SPEAKER_04: And uh you are the You are the word you are the word.
- 15:10SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 15:11SPEAKER_04: There's no Jewish word for guilt.
- 15:12SPEAKER_04: Well, there is a guilt offering in the Kurbanis, but um maybe it's Chayev.
- 15:19SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but it's not to say, it doesn't have the juice of guilt.
- 15:23SPEAKER_04: Come on, man.
- 15:23SPEAKER_04: That's not what I feel.
- 15:25SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 15:27SPEAKER_01: Um and so that so let's go back to street for bringing.
- 15:39SPEAKER_01: What does it mean to have street smarts?
- 15:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 15:45SPEAKER_01: What does it mean?
- 15:45SPEAKER_04: In other words, we're not for bringing over let's talk about the this mimor and have a pilple about the mimer.
- 16:01SPEAKER_04: And it's also not they used to say in the in my uh Morristown days in the upstairs yeshiva, they would call it a bullshit.
- 16:10SPEAKER_04: Where they sit around and they just, you know, talk, whatever.
- 16:15SPEAKER_04: Shoot the breeze.
- 16:17SPEAKER_04: Shoot the breeze, yeah.
- 16:17SPEAKER_04: Well, uh, there's other words I would say, but uh this is a family audience.
- 16:23SPEAKER_04: But um, sort of.
- 16:26SPEAKER_04: We don't even know who the audience is or if there is even one, so uh no one says hello.
- 16:32SPEAKER_04: Um but that's okay because the two of us could forbring.
- 16:36SPEAKER_04: And uh that's kind of enough.
- 16:39SPEAKER_04: So street verbring is how to navigate.
- 16:46SPEAKER_04: This is like street smarts means you know how to navigate life.
- 16:54SPEAKER_02: Oh wow.
- 16:57SPEAKER_02: You know how to navigate life.
- 16:59SPEAKER_04: Isn't that what street smarts is?
- 17:00SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes, and that's what we're that's what a febring is supposed to be.
- 17:04SPEAKER_04: So you elevate yourself, meaning that you now have a certain relationship with the street that you didn't have before.
- 17:15SPEAKER_04: The street meaning the world.
- 17:18SPEAKER_04: What's the major difference between before the verbringen and after the verbringen?
- 17:23SPEAKER_04: When I come into the verbregen, the street is pressuring me.
- 17:28SPEAKER_04: Now I feel elevated and I walk out knowing that I am running the street.
- 17:40SPEAKER_01: Go back to your agency line that you like.
- 17:43SPEAKER_04: And I realize, oh my god, I was fooled the whole time till now.
- 17:50SPEAKER_04: So let's say for example, I'm really, really, really into uh fitting in with the with with the group.
- 18:02SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 18:03SPEAKER_04: So therefore the group is running me.
- 18:05SPEAKER_02: That's right.
- 18:06SPEAKER_04: Elevating is I feel my own sense of self, as you called it now, agency.
- 18:12SPEAKER_04: So I'm not there to run the group, but I'm not gonna be influenced by what I think, by the way, that they're uh wishing of me.
- 18:25SPEAKER_04: And is that not the difference between nefish and oh what the relationship between nefish and goof?
- 18:33SPEAKER_04: Which one runs which one runs the other?
- 18:36SPEAKER_04: What's the objective?
- 18:38SPEAKER_04: What's the goal?
- 18:39SPEAKER_04: Nefish over obviously over goof.
- 18:43SPEAKER_04: Um to the point where co-ops it, obviously, like we we learned, but the the general equation is I run it, it doesn't run me.
- 18:54SPEAKER_04: The goof is the street.
- 18:57SPEAKER_04: Street smarts as you know how to run around it.
- 19:00SPEAKER_04: How to uh work it, no?
- 19:05SPEAKER_02: I guess it took what a hundred and ten episodes for me to finally understand what uh what the actual mission and goal was for Oh my god.
- 19:18SPEAKER_04: Um Well, we all have our moments of epiphany, don't we?
- 19:23SPEAKER_02: No, but the the idea that you should be able to Not you.
- 19:33SPEAKER_02: No, I'm I'm actually speaking about you because this is what you just said that you should be able to come me.
- 19:38SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm I'm saying you.
- 19:41SPEAKER_02: That you should be able to come to a forbringin' with the objective of Zachary, we're gonna sit here and we're gonna learn how to um have agency over our goof, over our environment, over our world.
- 20:02SPEAKER_02: And that so you're saying street forbringing is the essence of what a forbringing is according to Well, we're trying to have it that way, yeah.
- 20:10SPEAKER_02: Yeah, is the is the is really the essence of what the Friedrich Rebbe is saying, what a Ferbringin really is.
- 20:17SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 20:19SPEAKER_02: Well.
- 20:21SPEAKER_04: You know, I have a confession to make.
- 20:24SPEAKER_02: Please.
- 20:26SPEAKER_04: Please, that's it's not as juicy as you would think.
- 20:30SPEAKER_04: I have my boundaries, you know.
- 20:33SPEAKER_04: So I once went, this is something that's been on my mind since uh for a while, this Nakuda, and it's very much the Adar ethos of Adar.
- 20:47SPEAKER_04: So about four or five years ago, I went to a six-day seminary seminar of Tony Robbins called Date with Destiny.
- 20:58SPEAKER_04: It's like a very for him an intimate six days four thousand people.
- 21:05SPEAKER_04: That's intimate.
- 21:09SPEAKER_04: It was actually quite powerful.
- 21:12SPEAKER_04: But I I don't know if I can ex give it justice to explain that every day was a certain fourteen hours working towards a certain aspect.
- 21:27SPEAKER_04: But the first day he started off asking eventually, how he's a master in manipulating and maybe mass hypnosis, I don't know.
- 21:41SPEAKER_04: He says, What is the most frequent sentence or feeling behind us behind a sentence, if you're not aware of the words, that you say to yourself the most often every day?
- 21:56SPEAKER_04: Mm-hmm.
- 21:56SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 21:57SPEAKER_04: Now the average person doesn't know that, but this is the You through these uh hours and hours of build up here.
- 22:06SPEAKER_04: Of build up, uh both intellectually as well as physically, because there's a lot of dancing and prancing and whatever.
- 22:13SPEAKER_04: And I'll keep it clean, and I realized that the line that I said the most to myself, and actually still do.
- 22:24SPEAKER_04: I have to catch myself, and it's not really a line, it's a hairgish, it's a sense.
- 22:32SPEAKER_04: Is this BS?
- 22:37SPEAKER_04: That's that I said to myself the most often.
- 22:40SPEAKER_04: Is this BS?
- 22:43SPEAKER_04: The guy comes up to me and he says, You gave a really good speech, Rabbi.
- 22:48SPEAKER_04: And I think to myself, without the words there, is that BS?
- 22:52SPEAKER_04: Or I say to myself, how is my speech that I gave?
- 22:56SPEAKER_04: And I say, Was it BS?
- 22:58SPEAKER_04: That was my go-to line.
- 23:00SPEAKER_04: So then he spends the next that's half a night a day, and then he spends a half a day getting you to replace it.
- 23:07SPEAKER_04: What are you going to replace it with?
- 23:13SPEAKER_04: So it was everything with like a vision board.
- 23:16SPEAKER_04: Don't ask all the things.
- 23:17SPEAKER_04: I don't even remember all the things that he did.
- 23:19SPEAKER_02: You could also pay$10,000 to get a tongue.
- 23:22SPEAKER_02: Oh, there's the Jewish uh opposition and protest.
- 23:26SPEAKER_02: It cost$10,000.
- 23:28SPEAKER_02: I wasn't saying it as as opposition.
- 23:30SPEAKER_02: I was just saying you don't have to give us all the details.
- 23:32SPEAKER_02: Just go do it if you want to.
- 23:34SPEAKER_04: No, that's not the point.
- 23:35SPEAKER_04: So no, I don't remember the details.
- 23:38SPEAKER_01: So um I came up with what do I have to what's to do?
- 23:50SPEAKER_04: How do I now inject a higher I don't remember the words I use exactly.
- 23:59SPEAKER_04: Let's say, how do I inject holiness to this moment?
- 24:06SPEAKER_02: That's the counter of is this BS?
- 24:09SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 24:12SPEAKER_04: No, it was it it was my response to replace it.
- 24:15SPEAKER_04: I don't know if it's I'm not gonna analyze what it's tit for tat.
- 24:19SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 24:20SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 24:22SPEAKER_04: So the guy's a genius.
- 24:28SPEAKER_04: Uh we go through five days.
- 24:31SPEAKER_04: And the last I don't even know why I'm getting into this.
- 24:35SPEAKER_04: And the last day.
- 24:36SPEAKER_02: This was a confession you said.
- 24:38SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 24:38SPEAKER_04: Well the confession was that I was always asking, is this BS?
- 24:42SPEAKER_04: Uh-huh.
- 24:42SPEAKER_04: Is Street for Braggan BS?
- 24:45SPEAKER_04: I hope not.
- 24:46SPEAKER_04: Is Ruvain B.S.
- 24:48SPEAKER_04: Um that was easy question.
- 24:50SPEAKER_04: I'm talking about everything that took place.
- 24:52SPEAKER_04: Sure.
- 24:52SPEAKER_04: Anything I did good, is it B.S.
- 24:54SPEAKER_04: That was go-to sentence.
- 24:55SPEAKER_04: Now it doesn't mean I thought those words like on a marquee of a of a of a theater.
- 25:02SPEAKER_04: Starring is this BS, but it was the kind of you know, sort of backdrop, like a fog in the air.
- 25:11SPEAKER_04: So the last day he did this like 10 hour thing.
- 25:19SPEAKER_04: I can't even explain it, but he asks at when he gets to the apex of the day, what was the first memory?
- 25:35SPEAKER_04: What is the first memory that you have?
- 25:40SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 25:41SPEAKER_04: So let me give you an example that at this thing there was a woman who got up.
- 25:46SPEAKER_04: Now when when Robbins is running around the audience of 5,000 people, he you don't see him.
- 25:51SPEAKER_04: He's he got three big screens, so you can see him, you know, because you're not everyone, he's way up front.
- 25:57SPEAKER_04: But there's a guy that you can't see who's his bodyguard.
- 26:02SPEAKER_04: Kind of whenever he's up and down the alleys, the the alleyway, the the aisles, he's traveling behind him on his fours.
- 26:12SPEAKER_04: So what the reason why I say that is because all of a sudden this woman shoots up from her seat and she's screaming, Tony Robbins, Tony Robbins, I can't believe I'm next to Tony Robbins, and she grabs him.
- 26:24SPEAKER_04: So the the it was such a surprise to him, both him as well as his bodyguard, and there was like this moment of tension, like, who is this woman, right?
- 26:33SPEAKER_04: And then they realize she's blind.
- 26:37SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 26:38SPEAKER_04: So she's like this 35-year-old Indian woman.
- 26:44SPEAKER_04: And she says, and he goes, Did what was the first moment that you you remember?
- 26:53SPEAKER_04: So she goes to this long story.
- 26:55SPEAKER_04: It's on film actually, again on YouTube.
- 26:58SPEAKER_04: She she goes to this long story about how she was born in a small Indian village, blind, and there's no room for marriage and a dowry.
- 27:08SPEAKER_04: So she's like extra baggage in that culture, unsellable to a husband.
- 27:15SPEAKER_04: She's only just born.
- 27:16SPEAKER_04: So she was like two years old, and there was no money in the house, blah, blah, blah, you know, the whole poverty thing.
- 27:24SPEAKER_04: And her first memory is that she's at the train station.
- 27:32SPEAKER_04: Because her mother deposited her on the train station in the town and left her.
- 27:39SPEAKER_04: And a policeman comes by and says to this two-year-old girl, like, my hi, what's going on over here?
- 27:47SPEAKER_04: And he and she said, I'm waiting for my mother, but he hopped that her mother wasn't coming back, which is probably common in those places.
- 27:55SPEAKER_04: And he took her to an orphanage.
- 27:59SPEAKER_04: Okay, that's her first memory.
- 28:01SPEAKER_04: And the crowd is listening very intensely.
- 28:04SPEAKER_04: So then this was the Nakuda.
- 28:05SPEAKER_04: Am I boring you?
- 28:07SPEAKER_02: Um I'm captivated.
- 28:08SPEAKER_04: So this is the Nakuda.
- 28:10SPEAKER_04: He says to her, What was the moment before your first memory?
- 28:19SPEAKER_04: Well, I you answered that, right?
- 28:20SPEAKER_04: That's my but he, I don't know how he did it.
- 28:24SPEAKER_04: And she goes, The moment before?
- 28:27SPEAKER_04: I realized was my mother looking at me on the mat on the floor as I was sleeping, trying to grapple with the fact that though she loved me, she had to give me up.
- 28:47SPEAKER_04: Okay, by this point, I'm just like being because at this point, like the whole crowd is like crying, you know.
- 28:53SPEAKER_04: Okay, so what now?
- 28:55SPEAKER_04: He got the whole crowd to do this, just she happened to be the one that that stood up.
- 28:59SPEAKER_04: He only asked a couple of people.
- 29:01SPEAKER_04: What was mine?
- 29:05SPEAKER_04: So I don't have memories of the past.
- 29:12SPEAKER_04: It's just part of my trauma.
- 29:16SPEAKER_04: Um, though I had no particular trauma, but I don't have memories of the past.
- 29:22SPEAKER_04: But I have a very strong first memory.
- 29:25SPEAKER_02: Did I ever tell you this?
- 29:28SPEAKER_02: Now I'm straight for brain, but I I don't remember.
- 29:30SPEAKER_04: So I have I had the the the first strong memory I have uh uh of any memory I have, but it's strong, is grade one in Mrs.
- 29:43SPEAKER_04: Gibbs, I remember her name, class on a June day in West Men Westminster School.
- 29:51SPEAKER_04: I was in grade one in Montreal and Cote Saint Luke.
- 29:56SPEAKER_04: Okay, and we're taking an exam, and it's hot, there's no air conditioning.
- 30:02SPEAKER_04: And we're taking this exam, and the exam it was like a multiple uh choice questions exam.
- 30:09SPEAKER_04: I don't know what I was in grade one, but whatever it was.
- 30:11SPEAKER_04: It was like 10 pages.
- 30:15SPEAKER_04: And I started filling in the answers, and I thought that I detected a pattern to the circles that were being filled in.
- 30:25SPEAKER_04: And I said, Wow, I discovered this pattern.
- 30:30SPEAKER_04: So I went and followed the pattern and filled out all 14 pages and boldly walked up to her desk seven minutes after the 14-page test was given to us and landed it and put it on her desk.
- 30:45SPEAKER_04: And she says to me, Um did you answer all the questions?
- 30:53SPEAKER_04: I said, Yeah.
- 30:55unknown: Okay.
- 30:56SPEAKER_04: So I go back to my seat and she's and I still remember the blue dress she was wearing, and I still remember the school teacher's shoes that she was wearing, and her silver hair, and her name.
- 31:08SPEAKER_04: This is a guy who doesn't have memories.
- 31:10SPEAKER_04: Okay, okay.
- 31:12SPEAKER_04: So I hope I'm not boring all of you listening.
- 31:16SPEAKER_04: So she calls me up to the front of the room and begins to rip me in front of all of the kids because all the answers were wrong.
- 31:27SPEAKER_04: And I'm totally mortified and embarrassed.
- 31:31SPEAKER_04: Sure.
- 31:31SPEAKER_04: Speechless.
- 31:32SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 31:34SPEAKER_04: So following the exercise of that day with what we were going through, so I had to ask myself, what was the moment before?
- 31:42SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 31:44SPEAKER_04: And I already said it actually.
- 31:46SPEAKER_04: The moment before was this incredible um explosion of oinig for seeing this pattern of the creativeness of the pattern on the page, and that I had discovered a wonder.
- 32:08SPEAKER_04: And then she went and completely ripped me apart for it.
- 32:13SPEAKER_00: Sure.
- 32:14SPEAKER_04: Right?
- 32:14SPEAKER_04: Wow.
- 32:15SPEAKER_04: What was my original first day's most common sentence that I used to tell myself?
- 32:21SPEAKER_04: Is this BS?
- 32:22SPEAKER_04: Is this BS?
- 32:24SPEAKER_04: So think about that moment.
- 32:25SPEAKER_04: That first moment that I remember going back to my youth was your discovery was BS.
- 32:36SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 32:37SPEAKER_04: Right?
- 32:38SPEAKER_04: Now I don't know if his head the cavanda of setting up the first day and the last day, but that's what happened for me.
- 32:44SPEAKER_04: And it blew me away at the time.
- 32:48SPEAKER_04: And just this Shabbos, I realized I'm still stuck in that pattern to a certain degree.
- 32:56SPEAKER_04: But less about other people, but still with myself.
- 33:04SPEAKER_04: And especially when it comes to seeing wonder.
- 33:10SPEAKER_04: Trusting wonder.
- 33:13SPEAKER_04: Right?
- 33:13SPEAKER_04: So you see, you have a moment of you feel higher than you were ten minutes ago.
- 33:22SPEAKER_04: You could question it and say, like all of a sudden you feel better, right?
- 33:30SPEAKER_04: You escaped from your yush, from your you haven't given up.
- 33:36SPEAKER_04: So Frida Kareba, going back to a Febregan, is saying the opposite of what that sequence, even as powerful as it was for me, that this seminar was doing.
- 33:54SPEAKER_04: Maybe sometimes you need to do it the other the other way, but the Frida Kareba is saying a Febragan is to get you to feel and see the heights that you can get to and that you're actually on.
- 34:11SPEAKER_01: But because you're walking out of the Febran that way, and now reflect on the past.
- 34:23SPEAKER_01: And I'll just make it a little Hasidic sweetness.
- 34:30SPEAKER_04: What's the opening of Tanya?
- 34:35SPEAKER_02: All those who have questions come.
- 34:37SPEAKER_04: No, no, the opening of the first chapter.
- 34:40SPEAKER_04: All those have questions.
- 34:42SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm saying the intro page, but okay.
- 34:44SPEAKER_04: The first chapter.
- 34:45SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 34:46SPEAKER_01: What's the opening?
- 34:50SPEAKER_02: That uh that there's a oath that's given.
- 34:53SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 34:55SPEAKER_02: Which is to be righteous and not be a Russia.
- 34:58SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 35:00SPEAKER_01: What's the moment before?
- 35:07SPEAKER_01: You don't have to answer that.
- 35:14SPEAKER_04: So You know, it doesn't doesn't so why I said about Adar is because the Frida the Rebbe has a mimer or the Friday Rebbe's mind a bunch based on the Friday Rebbe's Mimer, which most of the Rebbe's Mimers are anyways on.
- 35:43SPEAKER_04: And he asked, why is it possible why is it that we had a moment of Harsini, such an elevated moment, physically as well as spiritually, that was superseded by Purim.
- 36:04SPEAKER_04: Because Kimudim Mashikiblu Kvar.
- 36:07SPEAKER_04: They accepted what was already accepted by Harsini and they surpassed it.
- 36:13SPEAKER_04: And or uh that they began re-ga re began anew of what Torah, what what Torah is.
- 36:23SPEAKER_04: And the Friday Karab's question is how did they do that when they had a incredible revelation, Harsina?
- 36:29SPEAKER_04: And let's say in Purim time, it's us.
- 36:34SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 36:35SPEAKER_04: So the answer is Messius Nefesh.
- 36:37SPEAKER_04: That's the answer to the Friday Karab.
- 36:40SPEAKER_04: Simple Pshat.
- 36:43SPEAKER_01: Harsini was a reaction to an event.
- 36:53SPEAKER_01: Purim?
- 36:54SPEAKER_01: Who am I?
- 37:00SPEAKER_04: The qu the original question was there's a heavy duty geloy.
- 37:03SPEAKER_04: How could that s be surpassed by a bunch of low Pomona American lattes like us?
- 37:14SPEAKER_04: And the answer, Monsieur Snefish, what's shot?
- 37:18SPEAKER_04: Who are you?
- 37:20SPEAKER_04: Is the Mr.
- 37:21SPEAKER_04: is Monsieur Snefish.
- 37:22SPEAKER_04: Who are you could supersede even the highest Geloi?
- 37:26SPEAKER_04: Ends up to be you are the highest Geloi, but right?
- 37:29SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 37:30SPEAKER_02: Um I'm even thinking about I know this is not exactly on point, but uh I'm thinking about the fact that when Mordecai found out and he got everybody to do chuva, and he didn't lament the past.
- 37:49SPEAKER_02: He didn't lament the fact that you know the Jews were doing the wrong thing or even focused on the idea that they were going to the party.
- 37:55SPEAKER_02: What did he do?
- 37:57SPEAKER_04: He brought all the children together, he elevated everybody, he he brought people to a higher Madraga, and then similar to what we're describing, he then was able to I can recall there were a few people I knew at a certain place I mean I knew them because they were there at the place, actually disparaging the Rebbe because he would spend so much time at Siva Sashem rallies and thought that that was an indication that the Rebbe really wasn't a Tamil Khachar.
- 38:30SPEAKER_04: You know, you're talking about guys, Litvisha guys, you know, don't understand what's going on.
- 38:34SPEAKER_04: But think about it.
- 38:36SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 38:38SPEAKER_04: So that's the hopefully the mahus of a street rebut.
- 38:51SPEAKER_02: I hope we accomplish that, Ruby.
- 38:54SPEAKER_04: Well, at any given time, that's what what the question is.
- 38:57SPEAKER_04: Is that your objective?
- 38:58SPEAKER_04: That's the objective to wallow in the dirt.
- 39:05SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 39:05SPEAKER_02: No, I mean like reminds me of a Beatles song.
- 39:10SPEAKER_04: Have you seen the little piggies wallowing in the dirt?
- 39:13SPEAKER_04: But they mean rich people.
- 39:14SPEAKER_04: I don't mean rich people.
- 39:15SPEAKER_02: I mean No, but but not to put down other people's Febrangans.
- 39:21SPEAKER_02: But you said before that typically a person's going to try to explain a mimer or explain an idea or explain the Rebbe's opinion of something.
- 39:31SPEAKER_02: And that's what they consider to be a Ferbringen.
- 39:34SPEAKER_02: So I'm just trying to very quickly in my mind contrast it to what you're saying right now.
- 39:39SPEAKER_02: What are they doing or not doing to bring it to the madraga that you're describing?
- 39:46SPEAKER_04: Not so much what are they doing or not doing, is why are they doing what they're doing and not doing what the Fried Grab is talking about.
- 39:56SPEAKER_04: I think there's a very simple answer.
- 39:58SPEAKER_04: Yeah, which is?
- 39:59SPEAKER_04: I think the answer is ironically twofold.
- 40:07SPEAKER_04: On one side, I think the greater assumption is we're all going nowhere.
- 40:16SPEAKER_04: Despite all the rhetoric.
- 40:18SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 40:20SPEAKER_01: And the other side is we're uncomfortable feeling wise to say that we're gonna go somewhere.
- 40:37SPEAKER_01: We're uncomfortable saying that we're going somewhere.
- 40:42SPEAKER_02: Meaning we we don't believe we can, or you don't think that's the goal?
- 40:48SPEAKER_04: It's neither of those.
- 40:49SPEAKER_04: That's what I said.
- 40:50SPEAKER_04: I think we're uncomfortable saying we're gonna lift up.
- 40:58SPEAKER_04: I think we don't.
- 41:01SPEAKER_04: Maybe it's maybe the the culture has what I had.
- 41:06SPEAKER_04: Is this BS?
- 41:10SPEAKER_02: I mean, you used to talk about the idea that when you would for bring in front of Lebovichers, they would cross their arms and say, prove it to me.
- 41:18SPEAKER_04: It's not only in front of them when I did it.
- 41:20SPEAKER_04: That's the way they are.
- 41:21SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 41:21SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying that's the idea.
- 41:23SPEAKER_02: Is this BS?
- 41:24SPEAKER_02: That's that's starting out with the premise.
- 41:26SPEAKER_04: Is this BS been proved to me that you're gonna tell you the story I gave once they asked me to speak every so often at uh at Orshlomus I got Friday night?
- 41:35SPEAKER_04: I don't remember what I said.
- 41:37SPEAKER_04: And I thought it was well delivered.
- 41:40SPEAKER_04: And as I sat down, there was an old guard lobaber there from out of town.
- 41:46SPEAKER_04: And he turns he never I know him, but he doesn't really know me.
- 41:52SPEAKER_04: We never spoken before.
- 41:55SPEAKER_04: And I sit down and he goes, How much of what you said did you really understand?
- 42:03SPEAKER_04: But he said it in a way like a uh like a like a like a poke in the in the nose.
- 42:08SPEAKER_02: I don't know how you can say that where it wouldn't be a poker.
- 42:13SPEAKER_04: And I was like taken aback.
- 42:16SPEAKER_04: I didn't under I didn't rem like respond.
- 42:23SPEAKER_04: And I came to it was a very interesting lesson for me.
- 42:25SPEAKER_04: I don't know if I want to say it on the air, but um well I'll say it this way.
- 42:33SPEAKER_04: It really opened my eyes to why that kind of culture that he just represented, I never felt comfortable in or wanting to be in.
- 42:48SPEAKER_04: It solidified for me that I was not um I was thinking there was something wrong with me, that I didn't want to be part of that Uber culture.
- 43:02SPEAKER_04: And then I realized now I realize why I always felt that way.
- 43:06SPEAKER_04: Because I don't want to be part of that kind of a culture.
- 43:09SPEAKER_02: So okay, so going beyond that, so you're saying that reaction that he had is what people uh present or believe in for Brighton.
- 43:20SPEAKER_04: We're sarcastic, we're cynical.
- 43:22SPEAKER_02: Um We don't even believe we couldn't.
- 43:26SPEAKER_04: We don't think we think it's I think it's basically off the table.
- 43:30SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
- 43:31SPEAKER_04: Um we're culturally Jewish and Lubavitch and Hasidic, but I I think I once told you this when uh uh uh there was a doctor uh Landis in Palo Alto when I was on Schlichas there.
- 43:49SPEAKER_04: He was an amazing man, a psychologist.
- 43:55SPEAKER_04: And he told me when whoever spoke about meditation uh And feeling comfortable and and and not nervous and that kind of a thing for meditation, but he doesn't want it to be um like the Reb is twenty years ahead of the game, like most most of the things he said poke about.
- 44:14SPEAKER_04: So we're in this generation where we're all jaded and we're all can't we're all bifurcated and we don't know what's coming down.
- 44:20SPEAKER_04: We should have to learn to calm down, but don't go to some non-kosher place to meditate.
- 44:25SPEAKER_04: So that we should set up a meditation, uh Jewish meditation approach.
- 44:32SPEAKER_04: Not his boyiness.
- 44:34SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 44:35SPEAKER_04: And he decided he's gonna get involved and do it.
- 44:38SPEAKER_04: He has a couple letters from the Rebbe.
- 44:40SPEAKER_04: Nothing really happened, but that's besides the point.
- 44:42SPEAKER_04: So but he told me that he went and he right after that for Brain, like a month later, he went uh to New York and they had uh put out a poster that for the Koylel Junger Light, they're going to have a mo uh a meditation evening based on the Rebbe's you know Sikha that was only a month old, and anyone want to come at 9 o'clock, come to the Kohlel, which is now a destroyed empty building, but that's besides the point.
- 45:13SPEAKER_04: But maybe that is the point, anyways.
- 45:16SPEAKER_04: So he said I could just picture it.
- 45:19SPEAKER_04: All the talk about Kohla men.
- 45:22SPEAKER_04: How old are they?
- 45:23SPEAKER_04: 22, 23?
- 45:25SPEAKER_04: We're talking 1985.
- 45:27SPEAKER_04: You know, it's not 1955.
- 45:29SPEAKER_04: These are sophisticated.
- 45:31SPEAKER_04: I'm going on schlieges and I'm gonna save the world, men, right?
- 45:35SPEAKER_04: So they're sitting in a circle of chairs up at the Koala on the second floor, and Dr.
- 45:41SPEAKER_04: Landis says to them, Take off your shoes.
- 45:46SPEAKER_04: He said, Rouvain, it took me about 45 minutes to get them to take off their shoes.
- 45:54SPEAKER_04: They were so uncomfortable about that openness of their shoes off their feet that it was so abnormal that they couldn't handle it, right?
- 46:06SPEAKER_04: Oh my goodness.
- 46:08SPEAKER_04: Yeah, oh my goodness.
- 46:09SPEAKER_04: So I think it's two sides.
- 46:10SPEAKER_04: One is we don't think we can do it.
- 46:14SPEAKER_04: And I think that when you put ten guys together without booze, the average ten Bachram, as great as they are, what are they gonna talk about?
- 46:29SPEAKER_04: They're gonna share intimate feelings with each other.
- 46:32SPEAKER_04: First of all, we d we we think that's wrong, by and large.
- 46:38SPEAKER_04: Maybe one friend, but you know, you know, whatever.
- 46:41SPEAKER_04: It's not safe to do that.
- 46:43SPEAKER_04: And why should you do that anyways?
- 46:45SPEAKER_04: Okay, so we have the Frida Karebis formula.
- 46:49SPEAKER_04: You don't do that.
- 46:50SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 46:52SPEAKER_04: But wait a second.
- 46:54SPEAKER_04: If you first elevate everybody and they feel that way, now I can talk about where I was.
- 47:05SPEAKER_04: Now I can talk about what I'm struggling with.
- 47:07SPEAKER_04: Now I can talk about kicking it out.
- 47:11SPEAKER_04: But because everyone's coming from a different perspective, the other way around, nobody wants to open up.
- 47:17SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
- 47:19SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 47:21SPEAKER_01: I hear that.
- 47:24SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I'm ready to even ask you what do you think we should do to change things.
- 47:32SPEAKER_02: But who's we and what's what's what you and I?
- 47:36SPEAKER_02: You and I right now.
- 47:37SPEAKER_04: You want to go on a campaign?
- 47:38SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 47:39SPEAKER_02: Like that guy and get a little circle thing.
- 47:41SPEAKER_04: Fabragons great again.
- 47:43SPEAKER_02: Yeah, take off your shoes.
- 47:45SPEAKER_02: Let's see what happens.
- 47:46SPEAKER_04: MFGA, make for Bragan's great again.
- 47:49SPEAKER_04: We'll have purple hats.
- 47:50SPEAKER_04: Oh, no, yellow hats, yellow hats with red MFGA.
- 47:54SPEAKER_04: Okay, good.
- 47:55SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 47:56SPEAKER_04: Maybe we can sell them and help pay for the podcast.
- 48:01SPEAKER_02: If anybody would like to sponsor, please contact.
- 48:05SPEAKER_04: I don't want sponsors.
- 48:06SPEAKER_04: Um yeah, so that's what a street forbrand is.
- 48:12SPEAKER_04: Hopefully.
- 48:13SPEAKER_04: And that's why I think our next the next uh entrepreneurial um project is we're gonna put out bumper stickers.
- 48:26SPEAKER_04: Life is a Fabranga.
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