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Geoff Schwartz on NFL's opening week, 49ers blowing out the Rams, What happened to Oregon against Ok St (?) + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to.
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  Speaker 1: Utah's ESPN radio network. Welcome in Jeff Schwartz, NFL and
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  Speaker 1: college football insider, friend of the program.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Jeff. How are we doing?
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  Speaker 4: I haven't checked Twitter. Did Sean Payton tweet last night
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  Speaker 4: about the game yet?
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  Speaker 3: No, there was no. I didn't see anything.
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  Speaker 4: I was curious. He was very big into Twitter like
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  Speaker 4: three weeks ago, so I was curious if he's back
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  Speaker 4: on the app.
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  Speaker 5: He just wanted to respond to you criticizing Bo Nix,
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  Speaker 5: who played great last night.
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  Speaker 3: It was incredible.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, so I guess he didn't come back to, like, say,
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  Speaker 4: I told you so or something? No.
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  Speaker 3: No, didn't go for that.
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  Speaker 4: I was curious. I've been on Twitter all day. I
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  Speaker 4: didn't see that.
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  Speaker 3: So is the Chiefs still the Chiefs?
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  Speaker 4: That was pretty impressive last night, right? Yeah. Considering they
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  Speaker 4: lost their best defensive back at the first drive interception
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  Speaker 4: and Delane gets hurt, you know, re-injures his shoulder or scapula,
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  Speaker 4: whatever body part it ended up being. Man, what an
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  Speaker 4: impressive performance against Kansas City last night. You know, a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people doubted Andy Reid's ability to adjust, right?
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  Speaker 4: They said there's no way that this old dog is
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  Speaker 4: going to learn new tricks, and the new trick was
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  Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker. They used him like they should, right? They
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  Speaker 4: went in and said, look, we pay all this money
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  Speaker 4: for this guy. We have a quarterback coming off an injury.
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  Speaker 4: Let's use our offensive line. Let's use our resource, and let's,
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  Speaker 4: you know, let Kenneth Walker do a majority of the
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  Speaker 4: work for our offense. They will obviously sprinkle in some
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  Speaker 4: Mahomes magic whenever we can. And I thought it was
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  Speaker 4: great to performance defensively. Man was the rush to pass her. Well,
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  Speaker 4: they blitzed. Well, they covered. Well, it was about as
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  Speaker 4: good as you could probably get in week one for
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  Speaker 4: a team with some, with some question marks.
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  Speaker 5: So when we think about this, this NFL season and
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  Speaker 5: a tiny little sample size, a week one sample size.
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  Speaker 5: Has anyone who was not kind of in the Super
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  Speaker 5: Bowl conversation or in the, oh, this team has high
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  Speaker 5: expectations this year. Did they play above expectation for you?
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  Speaker 5: And on the flip side of that, is there anyone
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  Speaker 5: besides the Rams that really underperformed?
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  Speaker 4: It might actually be in the same game. The Cowboys
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  Speaker 4: defense was atrocious again, right? We were told it was fixed.
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was fixed. All the guys on defense
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  Speaker 4: they brought in, same old Cowboys defense. I think on
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  Speaker 4: the Giants offense, I think the Giants looked really, really good.
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  Speaker 4: They were very physical up front, which was good to see.
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  Speaker 4: They haven't had a physical offense like that in quite
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  Speaker 4: a few years. I thought the offensive game plan was really,
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  Speaker 4: really good. Matt Necke, their OC, has not been a
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  Speaker 4: good OC outside of Andy Reid, but I thought that
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  Speaker 4: Greg Roman, who's also on the staff there, was a
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  Speaker 4: really good influence to this game plan with the fullback
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  Speaker 4: runs and just being very physical. I thought Jackson Dart
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  Speaker 4: played well. So it might be the same game. I
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  Speaker 4: thought the Cowboys would be good this year. I bought
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  Speaker 4: the Kool-Aid, and after week one, man, just not great OC,
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  Speaker 4: not good.
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  Speaker 5: Who impressed you so far? I mean, like I said,
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  Speaker 5: we're only a week in, but who impressed you most?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the team in the NFL scored 49 points.
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  Speaker 4: I think they impressed me. I mean, the.
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  Speaker 4: That the Bears scored 59 points NFL game. That's like
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  Speaker 4: that's super impressive. Like that's like feels impossible to do
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  Speaker 4: in the NFL. And it was with ease. They didn't
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  Speaker 4: feel hard for them. And and I do that. So impressive.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: The Bears have talked about being the best offense in
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  Speaker 4: the NFL. And they showed a week one just a super,
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  Speaker 4: super impressive performance by them.
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  Speaker 5: I'm still asking NFL questions because I want to dance
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  Speaker 5: around what we're eventually going to get to in college football.
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  Speaker 4: Why? You know my answer already?
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  Speaker 3: No. No. We're going to save it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to save it.
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  Speaker 5: The conversation that everyone had with the Rams and the
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  Speaker 5: travel and the body clock and all that kind of stuff,
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  Speaker 5: I don't like it because it takes away credit from
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  Speaker 5: the San Francisco 49ers.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe they're just.
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  Speaker 5: On that given day, maybe they're just a better team,
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  Speaker 5: at least a good enough team to beat the presumptive
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  Speaker 5: Super Bowl favorites. But a big part of that conversation
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  Speaker 5: before the game and then especially after the game was
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  Speaker 5: that travel schedule. You think that that is the last
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  Speaker 5: time a team will try to do it that way?
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  Speaker 4: So where's the furthest you've traveled for PFL?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it would be the Middle East. It would
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  Speaker 5: be probably Dubai, I think, is the farthest I've gone.
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  Speaker 4: Direct flight?
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  Speaker 3: No, there's no direct flight from Salt Lake City to Dubai.
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  Speaker 4: Delta, one of the heaviest, just shows up and takes
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  Speaker 4: everyone to Dubai from Salt Lake City.
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  Speaker 5: We're lucky because we're a Delta hub. You can fly
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  Speaker 5: direct to Europe. You can fly direct to South Korea now.
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  Speaker 5: There's a Japan flight, if I'm not mistaken, from the
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  Speaker 5: Salt Lake International Airport. Here to Amsterdam, that's a long flight.
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  Speaker 5: Here to London, that's a long flight, but Yeah. The
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  Speaker 5: longest flight I've ever been on ever was Abu Dhabi
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  Speaker 5: to Chicago, which is like 17 hours.
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  Speaker 3: That's a long flight, which.
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  Speaker 4: Is your point. One of those in those suites.
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  Speaker 3: This was, this was, uh, this was the early days.
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  Speaker 4: I was, how was that?
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  Speaker 3: I was in the back, the back, the back, the
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  Speaker 3: back in those days. Um, now I'm lucky.
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  Speaker 5: Now I can, I can at least make the European
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  Speaker 5: flights and, and Jeff Schwartz class, but not.
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  Speaker 3: In those days.
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  Speaker 4: No. Yeah. First class for life. Um, That's Norman and
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  Speaker 4: Olivia about that. They know that life. So, look, the
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  Speaker 4: Rams have said they did this to be better prepared
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  Speaker 4: when they come back, right? That was the purpose of this.
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  Speaker 4: So let's see how they play when they come back, right?
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  Speaker 4: They play Monday night against the Giants. That was the
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  Speaker 4: purpose of this was, okay, well, we're doing this because
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  Speaker 4: this gets us the most ready to play the rest
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  Speaker 4: of the season. Well, the Niners, the way they did it,
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  Speaker 4: shouldn't be as prepared to play in week two and
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  Speaker 4: maybe week three, just mentally body clock and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Like that's where they did it. So let's see, let's
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  Speaker 4: see you play better against the giants. I think, I
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  Speaker 4: think they outsmart themselves, Sean. I think they did. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: I think that they thought they would be clever and
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  Speaker 4: this would work out. And I think they looked lethargic
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  Speaker 4: and I was looked fresh. They looked more prepared. They
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  Speaker 4: looked more ready. Uh, do you think that they outsmart themselves? Yes. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think so too.
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  Speaker 5: And I, I also, I know that, you know, if
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  Speaker 5: you're a team competing for what you think is like
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  Speaker 5: a Super Bowl ready year, you don't want to have
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  Speaker 5: to do the extra credit and the league is asking
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  Speaker 5: you to, right? I do think that there is something
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  Speaker 5: to the fact that the Niners decided to enjoy this,
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  Speaker 5: embrace the experience, go experience Australia a little bit, do
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  Speaker 5: some of the like fan development outreach that is really
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  Speaker 5: the point behind these games and I think that there's
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  Speaker 5: something to that, you know, and you need time to
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  Speaker 5: do that. And of course the, the side effect, the
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  Speaker 5: pleasant side effect there is that you get more time
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  Speaker 5: in country and your body can adjust. And yet now
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  Speaker 5: maybe the Niners feel like crap this week and the
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  Speaker 5: Rams feel better this week, but who knows?
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  Speaker 3: That was a divisional game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I just think that, you know, there's, there's this idea.
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  Speaker 4: I think that like the Rams threw it away on purpose.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think so. Um, I mean, they thought they
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  Speaker 4: were doing the right thing, but they tried to outsmart themselves.
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  Speaker 4: The Niners played great. It was a masterful college hand-in-hand
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  Speaker 4: game plan. I thought he was called a great game.
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  Speaker 4: They were very prepared. They were ready to play. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it just was a really good job by him.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 5: Moving on to the college football world. We'll get to
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  Speaker 5: the Oregon Ducks here in just a second.
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  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 5: Because I want to. Because it was the biggest upset
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  Speaker 5: of the season so far.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Only because michigan got an extra second on the clock
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  Speaker 5: otherwise they would carry that distinction uh.
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  Speaker 3: but then of course they turn.
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  Speaker 5: Around against oklahoma and even though ranking shouldn't exist before
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  Speaker 5: probably week four or five michigan falls out of the
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  Speaker 5: rankings oklahoma was what eleven and and they go and
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  Speaker 5: they they they beat oklahoma after looking terrible in week
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  Speaker 5: one they look a lot better underwood settles in nicely
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  Speaker 5: the defense performed incredibly well uh... and Michigan gets a
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  Speaker 5: big victory over a ranked Oklahoma team. And I kind
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  Speaker 5: of like silences, at least for now, some of the
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  Speaker 5: doubt and flips the script a little bit on that
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  Speaker 5: disastrous narrative that week one set up.
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  Speaker 3: What were your thoughts on the Michigan Oklahoma game?
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was like classic, like Kyle Whittingham game, right?
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  Speaker 4: Underdog back against the wall, just out physical or opponents, right?
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  Speaker 4: And make their life heck, like just make it really tough.
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  Speaker 4: And look, I said this, I think last week too,
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  Speaker 4: you're never your finished product in week one, right? So,
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  Speaker 4: you know, to expect Michigan to never get better and
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  Speaker 4: not improve from week one, I thought was really silly.
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  Speaker 4: And look, Bryce Underwood's not a perfect quarterback. There's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of things he's got to get better at. But
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  Speaker 4: they leaned into his, really, 18 rush attempts, I think.
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  Speaker 4: They leaned into him as a rusher, which I think
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  Speaker 4: they had to do in this game. And I think
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  Speaker 4: you have to be pretty impressed with the resolve to
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  Speaker 4: come back from that, right? And again, they won the
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  Speaker 4: game against Western Michigan. But still, the talk and just
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  Speaker 4: the entire week and whatnot and the Underwood comments and
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  Speaker 4: I know Coach, I don't know what I was saying.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't mean to say that. Yes, you did. The
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  Speaker 4: whole song and dance there, but it was impressive, Sean.
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  Speaker 4: I was pretty impressed by it.
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  Speaker 5: How impressed were you by Texas' comeback victory?
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  Speaker 4: Shocking. If you had told me you know, that basically
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  Speaker 4: Ohio State was up 20 or, you know, or Texas
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  Speaker 4: was down 10 the fourth quarter. I thought there's no
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  Speaker 4: way Texas would, would outplay Ohio State in that situation.
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  Speaker 4: None whatsoever. I trusted Ohio State way more than I
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  Speaker 4: trusted Texas. And Texas proved something right. Good for Sark,
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  Speaker 4: good for Arch. You know, the way things work, I
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  Speaker 4: would still probably take Ohio State next time they play,
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  Speaker 4: but I, I was super impressed. I didn't think Texas
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  Speaker 4: had this in them to come back. I mean, Ohio
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  Speaker 4: State was pretty much dominating this game. It was trenches.
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  Speaker 4: They were doing a great job. And then all of
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  Speaker 4: a sudden, they weren't. And Texas made enough plays at
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  Speaker 4: the end to win the game. It was very impressive, dude.
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  Speaker 4: I was quite surprised.
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  Speaker 5: Speaking of Texas, the Holly Rose, Steve Sarkeesian, nothing burger
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  Speaker 5: has turned into a something burger now. And, you know,
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  Speaker 5: Arch is being dragged because he laughed at a joke
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  Speaker 5: he shouldn't have laughed at and an A.I. video that
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  Speaker 5: he shouldn't have laughed at. And I don't I don't
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  Speaker 5: even know where to sit on this because, like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the guy is he's a Manning. So everything he does
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  Speaker 5: is going to be looked at through a microscope. And
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  Speaker 5: he's at Texas. So that's going to make it even worse.
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  Speaker 5: And it was already something that people were talking about
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  Speaker 5: because Sark cold shouldered Holly Rowe and.
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  Speaker 3: And now, you know, it's.
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  Speaker 5: Like a potential distraction and it's going to be used
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  Speaker 5: for a narrative one way or another. And I don't,
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  Speaker 5: I don't really know how to feel about that because,
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  Speaker 5: you know, he's a dumb college kid.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Can you just have no opinion on it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can.
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  Speaker 4: Like I, I just, yeah, he should have, he should
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  Speaker 4: have probably been excited to watch a man hit a woman.
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  Speaker 4: Like we, we agree on that. Like, well, I think
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  Speaker 4: we're all understanding of that. Like, yeah, probably not great that,
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  Speaker 4: He liked the video of a man hitting a woman.
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  Speaker 4: He probably didn't think that deeply about it, honestly. Like, probably,
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  Speaker 4: Sean didn't cross his mind that it was a bad
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  Speaker 4: look to like the video. And, you know, I just,
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  Speaker 4: I don't have time for all these controversies that are
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  Speaker 4: sort of made up. I just, I don't really. I don't,
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  Speaker 4: I wish I did. Like, this is not, yeah, again,
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  Speaker 4: I'm anti-hitting women. I think we all are, right? Like,
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  Speaker 4: that shouldn't be something we laugh at. But I don't
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  Speaker 4: think he thought of it that way. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: he thought of it as, like, is I like this video,
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  Speaker 4: you know, that means I'm condoning this or I'm for that.
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  Speaker 4: Not everything has to be that deep. And, you know,
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  Speaker 4: have you seen this trend now where, you know, Sydney
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  Speaker 4: Sweeney did that ad for Novig, right? I think it was.
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  Speaker 4: And now there's like this whole thing where women are like,
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  Speaker 4: this is what a real woman in sports is. Like
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  Speaker 4: when Sydney Sweeney is doing an ad for gambling, what
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  Speaker 4: are we talking about? This is a thing? Like we're
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  Speaker 4: going to be upset that she talked about like, sports
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  Speaker 4: and a gambling ad? I don't get these made-up controversies
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  Speaker 4: that we make in society now. I don't get it, man. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Holly Road just, by the way, posted a thing. She
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  Speaker 5: talked to Arch. They had a conversation.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure that Arch regrets laughing at that. I'm sure
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  Speaker 4: he doesn't think that it's actually funny to laugh at that.
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  Speaker 4: He's in a press conference. I don't know, man. I just...
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  Speaker 4: Do I have to care about it?
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  Speaker 3: You don't. You don't.
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  Speaker 4: You don't.
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  Speaker 3: Not at all.
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  Speaker 5: I asked you to grab some time and watch Utah's
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  Speaker 5: offense from this last weekend against Arkansas, even if it
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  Speaker 5: wasn't like your top priority. Kevin McGibbon is doing some
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  Speaker 5: unorthodox things. He's got some crazy plays in the playbook.
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  Speaker 5: He's using a two quarterback system. They're running a speed
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  Speaker 5: option together. with one man as the handoff, one man
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  Speaker 5: as the pitch man. I mean, it's fantastic playground stuff.
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  Speaker 5: What do you think of it? Do you like it?
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  Speaker 5: Is it something that they can use once you get
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  Speaker 5: into conference play? Arkansas was probably worse than Idaho, so
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  Speaker 5: we were surprised in that regard. But how sustainable is
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  Speaker 5: this level of creativity in the offense?
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to make you guess my answer, if you
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  Speaker 4: know my answer. It's fun for now. It's not. a
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  Speaker 4: serious offense for the regular season. Like for a big
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  Speaker 4: 12 champion type team, that's just not going to happen.
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  Speaker 4: Look at what wins, man. Like passing the ball in
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  Speaker 4: third down, right? Now, if you're not in third down,
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  Speaker 4: that certainly helps. But the gadget stuff, the better teams
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  Speaker 4: eat it up, man. They do. It's very fun. It
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  Speaker 4: works against Arkansas and Idaho. It's going to work against
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  Speaker 4: the lower teams. of the big 12 teams, but you
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  Speaker 4: want to be Texas tech, which actually looked pretty vulnerable
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  Speaker 4: against Oregon state. I will say, um, you want to
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  Speaker 4: be Houston BYU. It a couple of times a game, maybe,
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  Speaker 4: but those teams are gonna have it sussed out, man.
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  Speaker 4: Cause here's the thing. There's only so many plays you
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  Speaker 4: can run from those formations. It just is. You just,
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  Speaker 4: you just, there's just, you can't do a ton of
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  Speaker 4: stuff from those. And so defenses are going to start
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  Speaker 4: seeing the film. They're going to start understanding what the
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  Speaker 4: plan is here, and they're very fun. Look, I love
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  Speaker 4: watching them. Option to a pass, to a run, to
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  Speaker 4: this and that. It's great, but it's just not sustainable
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  Speaker 4: for a season. So I'm curious to see if there's
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  Speaker 4: a pivot at some point to more traditional offense.
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  Speaker 5: The offensive line has continued to be a topic of conversation.
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  Speaker 5: They've performed well in a two-game sample size now. I
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  Speaker 5: was a lot more curious about Arkansas film on that
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  Speaker 5: front because Arkansas has got one, maybe two guys that
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  Speaker 5: are potentially Sunday guys on their defensive front.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if Idaho's got anyone. Those guys were limited.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't do anything.
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  Speaker 5: They didn't make any plays against the University of Utah
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  Speaker 5: this past weekend. To me, that's success for an offensive
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  Speaker 5: line when you're when you're stymieing that level of talent
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  Speaker 5: opposite you, and.
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  Speaker 3: When you're getting some push and you're getting, you.
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  Speaker 5: Know, the, when they're actually trying to run out of
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  Speaker 5: an orthodox sort of system, they're still getting really good push. Again,
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  Speaker 5: there will be tougher tests along the road, but Jordan gross,
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  Speaker 5: your former teammate is in my opinion, he's done an
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  Speaker 5: awesome job developing this group with all new starters and
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  Speaker 5: not even just all, it's not even five new starters.
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  Speaker 5: They're really using like seven starters right now. And they
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  Speaker 5: all seem to be playing.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. It's great. It's a great start for Jordan. I
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  Speaker 4: say this quite often, and I think it's really the
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  Speaker 4: case here that my kids are home, sorry, that, you know,
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: you're supposed to check the box, right, in these games.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: And so if you want to be the team that
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: you think you can be offensively, your offensive line has
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: got to be good, right? And so you should play
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: well against opponents that are not as good as you.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: And so I think so far you've just sort of,
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: you love the start so far, right? You have a
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: brand new Division I offensive line coach who was a
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: very successful pro. And you see the improvements from week
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: one to week two. And then, you know, you'll get
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: tested when you go to Iowa State in a couple
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: of weeks and see what they're like. You know, they
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: just gave Iowa a run for their money last week.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: And so every sort of opportunity. Now, that's going to
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: be the biggest test. So Oregon played Boise State, right?
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: They go on the road to Oklahoma State. And Oregon
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: started essentially three new starters on the offensive line and
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: two tackles making their first ever road start. One was
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: on start two in his career. One was on start three.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: And they struggled predictably on the road a little bit, right,
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: getting off on the snap and sustaining blocks. And so that,
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: I think, is the question for you guys. When you
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: go on the road for the first time, how does
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: that environment, how does that game play out with guys
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: making their first road starts? So it's a very good start, Sean.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: You should be very, very encouraged. And there's just going
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: to be more obstacles for them along the way, and
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: they have to just master them and learn along the way.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: Who is the Oregon equivalent of Utah State?
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: For Utah.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: I don't know what that means.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: So, like, BYU is your rival. BYU is on your
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: same footing. Oregon had Oregon State.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: They're not. Oregon State is now in the same conference
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: as Utah State. So, I guess maybe.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, probably them, I would imagine. I mean, as I said,
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: we played Portland State this weekend. But they're. Jeez. Jeez, buddy.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: It's fine. We're pro-dog here on the program.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: They're. I mean, foe, dude. But Utah State's much better
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: than Portland State. So I don't really– it probably is
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Oregon State, honestly, to be honest with you. That's probably
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: what it is.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Okay. When you were there, I guess that was a
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: little bit different.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: So maybe Portland State was closer to that equivalency back then,
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: although maybe not a direct analogy. But for a Utah
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: team that's now got Utah State, who's got a coach
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: who's very familiar with them, You know, the talent level
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: should not be similar. I think Utah State's got a
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: quarterbacking problem right now. You took the offensive coordinator from
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: Utah State last year. You took their best wide receiver.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: You took their best defensive end from a couple years ago.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: These guys are all on Utah's roster right now. So
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: big chip on the shoulder for the Aggies. What's the
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: right mental approach as a player going into a game
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: like this one where It's their Super Bowl, and no
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: matter how much you try to get yourself up, you
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: don't feel that way about the game.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: Well, I also think it's worth pointing out, too. Utah
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: State just almost upset Washington. So are they going to
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: be too on a high from that game or a
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: downer from that game? What do you think? State sort
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: of mental? They had a chance to win that game, Sean,
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: and just didn't get it done. So, I think, look,
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: every game, every opponent, you know, you have to have
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: a healthy respect for them. Rivalry games. Is this a
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: rivalry game for you guys? You consider this like a
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: rivalry game?
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: It's the Battle of the Brothers. So it's a rivalry game.
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: I guess that's, you know, a better way to ask.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: It's a rivalry game for Utah State much more than it.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Is for Utah.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like what Oregon and Oregon State play now.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. So, look, I mean, look, the thing about,
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: you have a new coach, right, and a new culture
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: to be set. And so I think it's like too
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: early to even have like a, well, maybe we won't
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: play as hard in this game. You don't have that.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Every game right now is another opportunity to establish the
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: culture of Utah. And so I don't think this will
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: be anything. You guys are, I think, four touchdown favorites.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: I don't think this will be anything for you guys.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: I think you're going to be just fine and play
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: this the best you can. And maybe get a couple
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: out early if you can to get ready to play
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: next week and start your conference play. But I would
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: expect Utah to have full attention for this one.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: All right. Texas Tech has not looked overly impressive, although
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: they're 2-0.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they should have lost. Those are beavers.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: Oregon State might be the best 0-2 team in the country.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: They had Houston and Texas Tech, and they pushed both
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: of them pretty far.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Look, I will just say this, though. I bet on
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Oregon State as my favorite wager last week. It was
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: a very tough spot for Texas Tech, right? Because it's
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: your first road game. You're playing Houston on Friday. That's
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: a huge conference game on Friday. It dude was pissing
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: rain for like half that game of Corvallis. Um, it
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: was just a, let's win a go home game for
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Texas tech. Like I, I don't know how much I
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: make of having too much to say for either team
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: off of that one. Um, but the Beavers, you know, they're,
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: they're playing, uh, very well in a shepherd.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: When you look at, um, Oklahoma state.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Pulled off the upset against your ducks.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Not great.
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: There were a lot of people who were like, they're
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: the breakout team this year. We love everything about that quarterback.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: We love everything about that coach. And then they lost
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: in week one to Tulsa. But then they come back
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: the following week with the biggest win of the conference
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: season so far and upset your Ducks. So how good
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: are Oklahoma State?
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: I don't know, man. We just got out of hustle,
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: physical effort, schemed. you know, if, if they're going to
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: be able to hit home runs like that on us. Yeah.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, absolutely. They're, they're legit. I just don't know how,
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: how talented Oklahoma state is. That mess to make her
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: played incredible against us, but we, you know, we just,
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: guys are open everywhere.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, he didn't, he didn't make like a ton
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: of like tough throws. He made a, he just, guys
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: were open. It's like our defense played terrible. And so
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: I don't, I don't know if Oklahoma state is a,
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: a threat to win the conference or even a threat
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: to be like a six win team. I don't know
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: if that was, you know, if, if I take that
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: away from that game.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: So your level of concern for the ducks one to
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: 10 is what?
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Oh, 10.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: That's not good. Um, it's not good because it's an
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: effort thing. Like defensively, it's an effort thing. And, um, I,
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: it just, It's alarming, man. Dante Moore doesn't look any better.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: It looks worse. You know, the team looked like they
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: were shell-shocked on Saturday on the sideline. You know, we panicked.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: It went four and a fourth down. We probably shouldn't have,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: which coaches admitted shouldn't have done. I just, you know,
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: we got Portland State Friday night. We got USC. So, like,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: we better figure it out, man. You know, the switch
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: can be foot. Like, we're still one of the best,
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: you know, most talent teams in the country. Like, that
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: has not changed. The question is, are we going to
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: play like it? Are we going to continue to play
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: whatever BS we're doing now? That's the question. It's not
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: whether or not we're good enough. We're plenty good enough.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Are you going to play like you should? And they
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: had the dreaded players only meeting, Sean. And they said
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: that they worked it out and they figured out they're
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: going to play better, whatever that means.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: All right. Well, good luck to everyone involved.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: I hate players owning meetings. I think they're stupid.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: It worked for Michigan.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: It did work for Michigan. So maybe it'll work for
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: my Ducks here. And, yeah, good start for the Utes.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Good start for your Niners. Week one, nice win. Nice
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: win for them. Yeah, I'm just glad football's back. I
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: feel bad there's no football today.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Well, Tuesdays, it's hard. It is.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: It's hard. We've got the Thunderbats on the field tonight.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Go look for 3-0, baby.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Let's go. Let's go, Thunderbats.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: I'm good. I'm a good coach. All right.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Don't throw your shoulder out patting yourself on the back there.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: There's a couple 2-0 teams so far. We've thrown seven
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: different pitchers. Every other team's thrown only three. They just
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: throw their two best every game. We've thrown seven in
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: two games so far. Congratulations.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Congratulations.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: We just roll them through. Roll them through. Abby's not
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: going to tell him yet. She's going to probably hear me.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: She's not going to pitch tonight. She's going to be
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: super pissed.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Don't tell her. Well, I'll let you handle that.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, bud.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: All right, buddy. Talk to you next week. Bye, guys.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: Jeff Schwartz, former Duck, former New York Giant, Carolina Panther,
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: et cetera, et cetera. Teammate with Jordan Gross.