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Jaguars Happy Hour | Austen Lane Talks Free Agency, Jaguars' Draft Projections · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, March twenty seventh. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 2: Chack Real, Welcome man. It is Jaguars Happy Hour. Our
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Speaker 2: friends in the UK will love that one. I'm JP Shadrick,
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Speaker 2: Who've got a busy hour ahead. Free agency impacts will
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Speaker 2: get some answers to some of those questions. The latest
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Speaker 2: mock drafts and we are two weeks away from the
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Speaker 3: Jeff Logoman out this week. But the guy with us
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Speaker 3: today is somebody you know you'll love.
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Speaker 2: A fifth round pick of the Jaguars back in twenty
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Speaker 2: ten out of Murray State.
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Speaker 3: Three years with the.
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Speaker 2: Jags, one year or the Lions one year with the Bears.
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Speaker 2: Retired from the NFL, but not done with sports, moved
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Speaker 2: into a career and mixed martial arts. He's worked his
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Speaker 2: way up in the UFC thirteen and six as a pro,
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Speaker 2: eleven wins by knockout for Austin Lane.
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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, How are you good afternoon man? I'm doing great.
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Speaker 4: I'm not interested in a Paddington Bear, so I'm sorry
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Speaker 4: about that. And yeah, still doing the whole MMA thing
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Speaker 4: like this is what happens when you hate golf. You
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Speaker 4: have to find other hobbies to do. And thankfully mma
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Speaker 4: and fighting kind of went hand in hand with football,
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Speaker 4: so it worked out pretty well. We're in the media world.
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Speaker 3: Here in Jacksonville.
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Speaker 2: I was told to say the Brenton Austin Show five times.
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Speaker 2: The first time I said it today on Twitter, I said,
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Speaker 2: what is the Brenton Austin Show?
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Speaker 3: So that's one out of the way. That's one out
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Speaker 3: of the way.
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Speaker 4: I probably have to mention a couple of times, my
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Speaker 4: sou But Brent's gonna learn what a what freelancer means
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Speaker 4: really quick here as I'm on this show right now.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, and hey, if the check keeps coming.
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Speaker 2: They do all you can. There's some doubt about that. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: good to have you here, though.
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Speaker 3: It's uh.
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Speaker 2: We get to hang out on a practice field some
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Speaker 2: when you're around. But I don't know if we've ever
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Speaker 2: actually done a program together.
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, JP, this has been a long time coming.
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Speaker 4: As someone who put in many hours at the you know,
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Speaker 4: drinking establishments around Jacksonville, it's only right come on Happy
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Speaker 4: Hour now.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you're pointing with.
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Speaker 2: Me trying to send the show in general Happy Hour
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Speaker 2: unsweet and nice sea.
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Speaker 3: I'm in bed by nine there every night. I am
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Speaker 3: now too. But back in the day, though, you.
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Speaker 2: Know, it was one thing that may or may not
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Speaker 2: be who knows. Of course, you're you're finding you with
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Speaker 2: the Jags was twenty twelve. That was my first year
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Speaker 2: with the Jaguars. We go back that far at least. Uh,
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Speaker 2: we've got a free agent talk coming up. We'll get
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Speaker 2: to some of these mock drafts coming up. A former
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Speaker 2: teammate of yours is getting another honor in college. I
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Speaker 2: don't know if you guys talked about this today or not.
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Speaker 3: We did not know.
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Speaker 4: I think our producer needs to do a better job
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Speaker 4: of getting our stories right here?
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Speaker 3: What do we got.
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Speaker 2: Justin Blackman was inducted in the College Football Hall of Fame.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, fairly recently.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be inducted into the Oklahoma State Ring of Honor.
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Speaker 3: Good for him, how about that?
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Speaker 4: Justin listen man, I understand that here in Jacksonville didn't
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Speaker 4: have the career that he wanted. But in terms, there's
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Speaker 4: a locker room guy, just a guy that you know,
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Speaker 4: you see every single day, like I did, one of
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Speaker 4: the most first of all humble and most salts of
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Speaker 4: the earth dudes you're ever gonna meet, you know. I
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Speaker 4: remember watching him in practice thinking like, this guy's gonna
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Speaker 4: be something special, you know. And then obviously, boy it
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Speaker 4: stood out too. Yeah, it stood out the time. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: and just naturally gifted, you know. And I think Cecil
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Speaker 4: Schwartz told me this one time, is that there's just
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Speaker 4: some guys where when you're running those routes, you know
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Speaker 4: that they try really hard and they have their cuts
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Speaker 4: and everything, and then they exhaust themselves to try to
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Speaker 4: get open. And then there's some guys that you see
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Speaker 4: wide receiver where it's natural, like where they're just meant
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Speaker 4: to do it. And Justin Blackman man, if you remember
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Speaker 4: him playing and obviously in practice too, it just everything
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Speaker 4: came so natural to him, and just it's a shame
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Speaker 4: that we didn't to see more of it.
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Speaker 2: And if it was within five feet of him, he's
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Speaker 2: catching the football. I mean catch radius was insane. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: without a doubt, and I always was.
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Speaker 4: And listen, I mean a fun fact about Justin Blackman too,
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Speaker 4: is that guy could put more dip in his lip
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Speaker 4: than anybody had ever seen before.
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Speaker 3: Man talk, that's what you expect. I'm from Wisconsin.
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Speaker 4: We would do a little bit there too, But I mean,
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Speaker 4: this dude like he always had one ready to go.
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Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, absolutely, And there.
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Speaker 2: Was some obviously some big moments on the field, but
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Speaker 2: unfortunately just didn't last long enough here. But congratulations to
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Speaker 2: Justin who was at the Hall of Fame induction ceremony
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Speaker 2: and I guess that was last fall and he'll be
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Speaker 2: in the Ring of Honor at Oklahoma State coming up.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's uh, free agency is not done. It's
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Speaker 2: never done. It only begins at the start of the
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Speaker 2: league year. The Jags were active right there out of
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Speaker 2: the gate in the negotiation period this year, and they've
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Speaker 2: been really quiet after that. One signing after those first
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Speaker 2: wave of free agency. So now ten new players have
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Speaker 2: come in. So the question for you, Austin, Yes, a couple.
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Speaker 2: I got a lot of questions for you. What free
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Speaker 2: agent will have the greatest impact on this team in
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 4: So it's funny because we talk about free agency and
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Speaker 4: it always seems like the team that spends the most
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Speaker 4: money is going to the super Bowl, right, Like that's
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Speaker 4: the that's how fan bases want to treat Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Right, Fortunately, we know that's not how that works. That's
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Speaker 3: not how it works sometimes.
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Speaker 4: But to answer your question of who I think is
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Speaker 4: going to have the biggest impact, you know, I think
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Speaker 4: a guy that you got to keep in mind here
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Speaker 4: is Jordan Lewis for a couple of reasons, the corner
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Speaker 4: from the cow the corner from the Cowboys.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 4: When he was brought in here, the first thing that
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Speaker 4: people were saying is what happens to Jerry and Jones now?
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Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 4: And that's a legitimate question because this guy is a
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Speaker 4: slot specialist. He's a nickel specialist, plays on the inside
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Speaker 4: a little bit a lot where Jerry Jones likes to play,
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Speaker 4: a lot where Jerry Jones last year had some success,
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Speaker 4: So how are they going to work together?
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Speaker 3: Do you move Jerry Joe on the outside. That could
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Speaker 3: be a possibility.
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Speaker 4: But I think when we talk about Jordan Lewis of
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Speaker 4: what he brings to this team, obviously it's the presence
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Speaker 4: of being that nickel corner, but also it's leadership and
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Speaker 4: also its attitude. And that's why I think this defense
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Speaker 4: needs more than anything going to this new season is
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Speaker 4: more attitude and just more kind of having that dog
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Speaker 4: in you if you will. You know, it's one thing
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Speaker 4: if you're a defense and you're you're dominating every single play,
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Speaker 4: you can have a bunch of choir boys out there.
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Speaker 4: It's fine, but when you face adversity, you need those
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Speaker 4: guys that had that dog in him to kind of
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Speaker 4: come out and say, hey, we got to do better.
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Speaker 4: And I think Jordan Lewis can do that. And he's
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Speaker 4: a dog on the field, but also professional off the field.
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Speaker 4: He was voted i think in twenty twenty four he
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Speaker 4: was voted like mister cowboy, like mister good guy, whatever
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Speaker 4: you want to call it in the Dallas media. So
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Speaker 4: he knows how Yeah, so he knows how to be
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Speaker 4: a professional outside of the field obviously, but when he
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Speaker 4: gets up between those white lines, he's a dog.
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Speaker 2: And he said in his press conference he's not afraid
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Speaker 2: to chirp, and when he gets out there, he's gonna
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Speaker 2: let the other guy know he out there too.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: That can be a good thing if it's goes the
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Speaker 2: right way and helps you play better.
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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, it's a good thing if you can
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Speaker 3: back it up. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And obviously he's been in the league for a while now,
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Speaker 4: he's well respected amongst his peers, So I think, like,
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Speaker 4: if you're willing to chart man, you're willing to kind
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Speaker 4: of put on the line.
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Speaker 3: You got to back it up. And I think Jordan
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Speaker 3: Lewis backs it up.
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Speaker 2: Another big piece of this free agency, all the signings,
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Speaker 2: at least as a whole, is the I mean statement
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Speaker 2: I think they made about the offensive line for offensive
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Speaker 2: line signings so far in free agency.
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna guess.
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Speaker 2: They're gonna do some more work on this at some point,
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Speaker 2: if it's not free agency than in the draft, because
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Speaker 2: that was a focal point of a lot of contention
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Speaker 2: for this team in the last couple of.
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Speaker 3: Years, especially in short yardage.
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Speaker 2: Unable to get things done inconsistency in the passing game
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Speaker 2: started there a lot of times. They've had some injuries
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Speaker 2: up there, some older players. Well, now you're gonna bring
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Speaker 2: some new faces in here. It's gonna make some players uncomfortable,
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Speaker 2: I'm sure, but you gotta get better.
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Speaker 4: There's gonna be some competition, right, and competition always brings
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Speaker 4: out the best in everybody, or if you can't handle it,
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Speaker 4: it's to the wayside, you go. I think we look
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Speaker 4: at what Liam Cohen's trying to do here. You talk
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Speaker 4: about a guy in Tampa Bay last year who had
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Speaker 4: a very dynamic offense, was predicated on the run game,
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Speaker 4: but also had Mike Evans and Chris Godwin helps. Both
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Speaker 4: those guys went down for a little bit though, Chris
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Speaker 4: Godwin for the year, Mike Evans for a couple of weeks.
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Speaker 4: So what was the calling card of the Tampa Buccaneers.
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Speaker 4: It was Bucky irving in the ability to run the
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Speaker 4: football with those big guys up front. So I think
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Speaker 4: Liam Cohen is obviously a huge fan of offensive lineman
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Speaker 4: guys that I think you can kind of have swing
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Speaker 4: tackles and all of that, and it's something to watch
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Speaker 4: for in the draft as well, because keeping Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 4: upright being able to run the football, are gonna be
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Speaker 4: two keys to the Draguars this up and coming season.
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Speaker 3: Fifty million a year. You better keep him up right.
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Speaker 3: You better. What happened Andrew Luck? Right? I mean he
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Speaker 3: he was so beat up at Indy. You know what,
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Speaker 3: I'm out of here. I can't do this. Yeah, you
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Speaker 3: don't want that to happen? No, I mean, well, I'm
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Speaker 3: not gonna lie.
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Speaker 4: When we played against the Colts, when I was still
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Speaker 4: play we wanted that to happen.
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Speaker 3: Oh yes, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: Because when you go from Peyton Manning to Andrew Luck Like,
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Speaker 4: it wasn't a good time.
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Speaker 3: JP. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: Like we had Manning, you know Colin, every one of
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Speaker 4: our plays on defense out and then you have you know,
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Speaker 4: the golden child that is Andrew Luck Like we just
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Speaker 4: wanted to break sometimes from great quarterback play from the Colts.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. They're just now starting to get out of that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean where is this when I was playing, right, Richardson,
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Speaker 4: Let's go.
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Speaker 2: Now they got competitions and old guys coming Daniel Jones,
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Speaker 2: and I mean that's a different world these days, you know.
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Speaker 2: And then of course the other free agent sign is
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Speaker 2: a couple of tight ends Johnny Munt Hunter Long from
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Speaker 2: the Vikings and Rams, guys who know the offensive idea.
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Speaker 2: And that's a question we won't really have an answer
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Speaker 2: to until they start playing I think, real football games.
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Speaker 3: But what is this really?
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Speaker 2: What will this really be modeled after? More kind of
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Speaker 2: Udinsky's Minnesota or Liam Cohen's Buccaneers and Rams days, a mix.
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Speaker 3: Of both probably, But what does that even mean? And
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Speaker 3: how do you figure that out? Yeah?
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Speaker 4: You know, I mean when I think of up great offenses,
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Speaker 4: you think of Sean McVay, right, and you look at
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Speaker 4: what they did in Tampa Bay last year, and there's
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Speaker 4: some similarities. Like we think of Sean mcvay's offense, we
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Speaker 4: think of all right, it's built behind Matthew Stafford and
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Speaker 4: Cooper Cup and Pooka Nakua. They can run the football too, right,
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Speaker 4: And Kylin Williams for the Ram is one of the
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Speaker 4: most underrated running backs in all of football. So I
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Speaker 4: think when you look at what the goal is gonna
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Speaker 4: be here, you you have a guy and well you
10:28
Speaker 4: have two guys. You have Tank Bigsby, you have Travis
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Speaker 4: etn two guys that can do different types of things
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Speaker 4: but can be pretty dynamic in offenses. I think it's
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Speaker 4: gonna be predicated off of running football first and passing second.
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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, they need to do that. You gotta go
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Speaker 3: do it.
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Speaker 4: And keep in mind, I'm very old school, right, so
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Speaker 4: I always think like that, the game's won and lost
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Speaker 4: in the trenches, right, Like my cost on the other show,
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Speaker 4: Brett Martineau gets so tired of me saying this, But
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Speaker 4: the game is won and lost up front, right, So
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Speaker 4: if you can run the football, you got a pretty
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Speaker 4: good chance of winning.
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Speaker 3: Just Saequon Barkley and the Eagles this year. Absolutely, Why
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Speaker 3: would he get tired of that? By the way, Brent
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Speaker 3: knows better than that. I mean, I just he knows
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Speaker 3: who's running the show over here. By the way, I
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Speaker 3: mean the new.
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Speaker 4: EVP over here. Yeah, you better believe it. Many. I
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Speaker 4: think me and Tony have a lot of things in common.
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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna run a marathon anytime soon like he
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Speaker 4: did back in the day. But I think when it
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Speaker 4: comes to winning football games, it is done in the
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Speaker 4: trunk hold.
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Speaker 3: On we Bury the lead. Tony ran a marathon.
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Speaker 4: Didn't Tony Paseli run a marathon like way back in
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Speaker 4: the day when he rere tired.
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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure he did. Maybe he did.
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Speaker 2: I don't think he can anymore because the second hip
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Speaker 2: replacement in the way of that.
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Speaker 4: No, but I'm pretty sure back in the day Tony
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Speaker 4: Baseli ran a marathon.
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Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, I can see that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 3: this is a long time. I'm getting off on a
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Speaker 3: tamil coming. Well, we'll get plenty of ahead here.
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Speaker 2: Early in my time, I challenged him to the five
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Speaker 2: k in the stadium. It's like almost a bit for
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Speaker 2: the what we're gonna cover it anyway, Yeah, I challenge
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Speaker 2: and I was running a little bit at the time,
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Speaker 2: you know, and I've I was with him for like
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Speaker 2: a half a mile, and then I was not. He
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Speaker 2: was just gone, isn't it. I was like, Oh, got
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Speaker 2: that long stretch. He's not some fat offensive line No, no, no.
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Speaker 3: He's an athlete as well. Now he beat me by
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Speaker 3: like six minutes or something.
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Speaker 4: So one of my best twenty best selling stories I've
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Speaker 4: ever had was so back in this was nineteen ninety five,
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Speaker 4: I believe, is when they went to Stevens Point, Wisconsin.
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Speaker 3: Yes, that's where where my daycare was.
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Speaker 4: So as part of the little daycare field trip in
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Speaker 4: the summertime, I got to go check out one of
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Speaker 4: the very first Jaguars practices at UW Stevens Point. Now,
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Speaker 4: you know, I had my bike and everything, and I
12:32
Speaker 4: got a program and lo and behold who's some of
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Speaker 4: the guys that signed it.
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Speaker 3: Well, Tony Bassli was one of them. Still still have
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Speaker 3: that program.
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Speaker 4: So I get drafted by the Jacksonville Jaguars and you know,
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Speaker 4: I think ten ten xcel, you know, they want to
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Speaker 4: talk to me and everything, and Tony's not doing the
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Speaker 4: show there, and I go, hey, man, we've actually met
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Speaker 4: Because he's like, nice to meet you, Austin.
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Speaker 3: I go, well, surprising, we've.
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Speaker 4: Actually met before when I was in daycare back in
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Speaker 4: ninety five.
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Speaker 3: You actually signed my program.
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Speaker 4: And then obviously he had a few choice words for me,
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Speaker 4: saying like hey, thanks for making me feel super old
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Speaker 4: and everything. But yeah, that was that was the first
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Speaker 4: time I met Tony when I was man, I must
13:04
Speaker 4: have been the first second.
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Speaker 3: Grade or something. Standing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's still lower told of that training camp of
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Speaker 2: being like the hottest place on the planet.
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Speaker 3: I felt like you.
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Speaker 4: Left Jacksonville to try to get out of the out
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Speaker 4: of the out of the warm, and you came to
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Speaker 4: like maybe the hottest place in the United States that
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Speaker 4: year in Steven's Point, Wisconsin.
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Speaker 2: Now, do you have that program framed on the wall?
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Speaker 2: Like do you have it like there's a whole just
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Speaker 2: display Jaguars part of your Jaguar room. Do you have
13:25
Speaker 2: it like a Jaguar room? How does this work? I mean,
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Speaker 2: I don't know you played it for three years. I
13:29
Speaker 2: don't know an NFL room.
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Speaker 4: I mean so like he was talking like my room
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Speaker 4: back at my mom's house. Oh no, no, I mean
13:37
Speaker 4: you have like I have, like a hangout room. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: I mean it's definitely a hangout room. There is football
13:42
Speaker 4: stuff there, and the Jaguars are my team obviously, Like
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Speaker 4: I'm not going to claim the Bears, not going to
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Speaker 4: claim the Lions. Had a short stint with the Chiefs,
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Speaker 4: which would be nice to claim them, but no, I'm
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna claim the Jaguars all day. So there's some
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Speaker 4: there's some Jaguar stuff hanging out the program though that
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Speaker 4: I got signed for training camp. I think it's still
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Speaker 4: my mom's house. Okay, I'm sure she's scrappedook that probably
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Speaker 4: as moms do.
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Speaker 3: That's what they a lot of times do. Without a doubt.
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Speaker 2: We've got plenty ahead. We'll return in just a moment
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Speaker 2: and get into some of these mock drafts.
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Speaker 3: This mock draft season.
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Speaker 4: It is mock drafts. All about mock draft Sea. We
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Speaker 4: are suckers for mock drafts. On our show JP for sure.
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Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna hit some of the guys that have
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Speaker 2: been mocked okay to the Jaguars and hit your thoughts
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Speaker 2: on a lot of those. We're on ten ten xl
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Speaker 2: AM Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube with Austin Lane.
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Speaker 2: I'm JP Shaddrick and this is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we got ten picks in this year's draft.
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Speaker 3: We're gonna have to have some spots that are actually
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Speaker 3: open for them to insert.
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Speaker 5: So you know, if you add a veteran at this
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Speaker 5: point could be just standing in the way.
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Speaker 3: We're going to allow these rookies to you know.
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Speaker 5: Get a chance to get out on the field and
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Speaker 5: help us this coming fall.
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Speaker 2: James Gladstone, the Jaguars general manager, earlier in the right
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Speaker 2: after the start Free agency and welcome back. It's Jaguars
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Speaker 3: It's always in season.
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Speaker 2: JP Shadwick, Jeff logam An out today, Austin Lane is in.
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Speaker 3: I can't talk hunting or fishing. I'm sorry, Thank goodness,
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Speaker 3: I'm kidding. Of course, Saturday morning. Be careful.
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Speaker 2: No, he'll be back with his next so he's not
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Speaker 2: out for good. No, no, no, he's in next week.
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Speaker 2: What do you think of James Gladstone first impressions?
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Speaker 3: I like it.
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Speaker 4: Man. He comes from obviously in the Rams that have
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Speaker 4: done things different ways. They've they've built through free agency
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Speaker 4: and had success. They built through the draft and had success.
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Speaker 4: They know, I feel like, and this is just him,
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Speaker 4: but that that whole team in general. They know how
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Speaker 4: to find gems in later rounds, which is I think
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Speaker 4: what you need to be successful. Obviously, he's very young,
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Speaker 4: he's kind of coming into his own now as a GM.
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Speaker 4: I'm very curious to see how this first draft goes
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Speaker 4: for him. But I think there's a lot to like
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Speaker 4: about him. Thirty four years old. Yeah wow, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 4: I mean i'd be like me off the street. A
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Speaker 4: couple of years ago, like, hey, you want to be
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Speaker 4: a GM Now, I'm all set. I'll just keep doing
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Speaker 4: mock drafts.
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Speaker 3: I love that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so as he said there, and that was, you know,
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Speaker 2: in reference to a question I believe about, hey, are
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Speaker 2: you gonna sign? Is there more free agency coming? Especially
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Speaker 2: like up front? Maybe we'll see, but at some point
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Speaker 2: the rookie is gonna have to play. So with all
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Speaker 2: these draft picks they have coming up, you're gonna draft
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Speaker 2: some of these guys pretty high. They got to get
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Speaker 2: them out on the field somehow too. So let's go through.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's mock draft season. It is mock draft season.
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Speaker 2: Is this your favorite season? Mock draft season?
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Speaker 3: It's one of them. I'm not gonna lie. I mean,
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Speaker 3: I think Christmas is still up there, but this is
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Speaker 3: it's like one A, one B.
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Speaker 4: You know, if you've been good or bad. It depends
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Speaker 4: if you've been good or bad. Thanksgivings up there as well.
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Speaker 4: But when we talk about mock draft season, I appreciate
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Speaker 4: it because I feel like everyone's got a voice, and
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Speaker 4: Ruin's mock draft is the.
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Speaker 3: Best mock draft. Where is it?
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Speaker 4: I mean, people are gonna tell you that, you know
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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, like with Gladstone, Like.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, in Gladstone, we trust in everything.
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Speaker 4: But there's like thirty people right now on Twitter posting
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Speaker 4: their mock draft saying, Hey, mister Gladstone, please look at
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Speaker 4: my mock draft.
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Speaker 3: That's what you have to do. James.
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Speaker 2: I get you're a genius and all, but I've got
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Speaker 2: a mock draft for you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I know you've been you know, you
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Speaker 4: earned your stripes and everything. You kind of like this,
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Speaker 4: you know, you're kind of like this wonder kin when
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Speaker 4: it comes to a GM. But blame me when I
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Speaker 4: say I've watched like two YouTube videos of highlights of
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Speaker 4: these players and I know.
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Speaker 3: What I'm talking about.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's beget this one because obviously the Jaguars have
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Speaker 2: the fifth pick. Yeah, you can't really control everything like
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Speaker 2: they've been able to do a couple of years in
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Speaker 2: a row in the past. Let's what would you really
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Speaker 2: want at five? If if all was fair and all
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Speaker 2: is clear, what are you going after at five?
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Speaker 3: Austin?
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Speaker 4: So if I'm going at five, you have to ask
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Speaker 4: yourself the question of what is the biggest need. Now
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Speaker 4: you have a guy in Travis Hunter who's kind of
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Speaker 4: like the that's like the sexy pick right, Like that's like, hey,
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Speaker 4: this is gonna Jersey sales. I mean, the dude's humble
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Speaker 4: is all get up, which makes zero sense to me
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Speaker 4: because you're supposed to be like an all Pro at
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Speaker 4: wide receiver and an all Pro at cornerback, like two
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Speaker 4: ego driven positions, and you're the most humble guy of
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Speaker 4: all time. Like if that was me, I'd be pulling
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Speaker 4: up in three Brinks trucks when training camp started. But
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Speaker 4: like Travis Hunter, for whatever reason, man that this dude,
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Speaker 4: like he's got a great head on his shoulders and
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Speaker 4: I like him a lot. Depends where you want to
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Speaker 4: play him. But I think if you look at what
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Speaker 4: this team needs, you talk about a guy in Campanelli
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Speaker 4: who comes from green Bay. If you look at what
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Speaker 4: green Bay does, and he comes from the coaching tree
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Speaker 4: of Vicvangeo. He was with him in Miami. I played
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Speaker 4: for Vic. The cool thing about playing for Vick is
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Speaker 4: is as a defensive lineman. Some defensive playbooks were like
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Speaker 4: you know, an Encyclopedia Britannica or like a phone book
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Speaker 4: from New York, and some playbooks were like just like
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Speaker 4: a like an I hot menu, just pretty pretty low key.
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Speaker 2: For young kids listening a full book where all the
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Speaker 2: numbers for people were listening.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I forget we're streaming as well. Sorry, man, this
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Speaker 4: isn't the radio. Yes, yes, a very thick book nonetheless anymore. Yes,
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Speaker 4: but when we talk about Fangio's defense from a defensive
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Speaker 4: line standpoint, it was very simplistic because he always believed
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Speaker 4: in rushing four and I think Campanelli believes in that
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Speaker 4: same thing. If you look at last year where the
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Speaker 4: Jaguars had some problems, you have two great book nds
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Speaker 4: in Trayvon Walker and Joshua Hines Allen. The issue was
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Speaker 4: it was the interior push, right, And if the plan
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Speaker 4: is to rush four and you're not gonna blitz a lot,
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Speaker 4: and you're gonna rely on your secondary to kind of
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Speaker 4: different coverages and confuse. You know that it's this set
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Speaker 4: offense you're going against, you gotta have interior pass rush.
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Speaker 4: And that's where I think Mason Graham comes into play.
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Speaker 2: He he's got everything you want. Yeah, may not have
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Speaker 2: the height, but he's got everything else you want. And
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Speaker 2: then you may not need that in an interior defensive lineman.
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Speaker 3: Right. I mean Aaron Donald was not a tall guy either.
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Speaker 4: Aaron Donald was six to one, you know, and that
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Speaker 4: was kind of his biggest knock coming out of Pittsburgh
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Speaker 4: was the fact that he was a little on the
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Speaker 4: shorter side.
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Speaker 3: I'm not comparing this guy to Aaron Donald. Hey, I mean,
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Speaker 3: if only right. But time will tell, you know, time
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Speaker 3: will tell if he's gonna be here.
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Speaker 4: But when we talk about Mason Graham, a couple of
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Speaker 4: things stand out from you when you watch film on
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Speaker 4: this dude, and obviously me being from Wisconsin being a
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Speaker 4: big ten guy, I've seen a little bit of Mason Graham.
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Speaker 3: I know he brings to the table.
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Speaker 4: He almost takes it as an offense if an offensive
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Speaker 4: tackle puts their hands on him, like tackles won't be
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Speaker 4: able to maintain their blocks very long with this guy,
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Speaker 4: just because he's got hand violence, you know. And that's
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Speaker 4: something where either you really have it or you don't.
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Speaker 4: I had a defensive line coach in Joe Cullen, and yeah,
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Speaker 4: I'm sure you know about him a little bit, as
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Speaker 4: a lot of Jaguars fans do, probably more yelling at
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Speaker 4: me than anything.
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Speaker 3: But Joe always had.
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Speaker 4: This philosophy where there's three phases to a pass rusher
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Speaker 4: or a defensive lineman. There's the get off, there the
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Speaker 4: move area, and there's the finish. The get off basically
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Speaker 4: is just out of your stance. How quick are you? Well,
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Speaker 4: if you watch Mason Graham on film, he's usually the
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Speaker 4: first guy off the ball, so he has that the
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Speaker 4: move area, What does that mean? It means in space
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Speaker 4: when someone's past setting on you, what kind of moves
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Speaker 4: do you have? What kind of field do you have? No,
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Speaker 4: that's still coming along for Mason Graham. But like that's
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Speaker 4: probably the hardest thing to master going from the collegiate
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Speaker 4: level to the pro level. And the last, but not least,
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Speaker 4: is the finish. When when you have the corner, can
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Speaker 4: you finish it? Can you chase down a quarterback that's
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Speaker 4: five yards down the field? Mason Graham can do that
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Speaker 4: as well. And guess what those things when it comes
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Speaker 4: to finish, when it comes to get off, those are
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Speaker 4: hard to coach.
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Speaker 3: Either you have them or you don't, and Mason Graham
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Speaker 3: has those. In Spain.
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Speaker 2: Let's say, for example, that Travis Hunter's gone, Mason Graham's gone.
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Speaker 3: Now what now we're now we're getting interested.
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Speaker 4: Now we're getting interesting, right, And I'm assuming that we
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Speaker 4: can't trade back right now, we're just gonna go the
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Speaker 4: next or what can we trade back?
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Speaker 2: Are you're the GM right now, we're gonna call you
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Speaker 2: the GM of this exercise.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're trading now.
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Speaker 4: So I'm probably gonna trade back a little bit and
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Speaker 4: try to get some more capital. And that's gonna make
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Speaker 4: your job hard because then you got a couple more guys.
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Speaker 4: And I apologize to you to day I apologize to
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Speaker 4: day two. No.
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Speaker 2: But like everybody says, there's all trade we could trade,
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Speaker 2: there's rarely trades in the first round, especially true unless
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Speaker 2: it's like up to number one. Yeah, there's always talk
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Speaker 2: about it. We can mock them and all this stuff.
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Speaker 2: It's hard to really execute those sometimes, you know.
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Speaker 4: I think if we're not talking about a trade, then
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Speaker 4: I think we go back to the trenches again. Ah okay,
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Speaker 4: And this is where offensive line comes into play. And
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Speaker 4: now keep in mind, I get that you just paid
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Speaker 4: Walker little and I get you have Anton Harrison, so
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Speaker 4: it looks like, well, you have two tackles that are
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Speaker 4: that are short up. But this is how coaches think,
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Speaker 4: Like Liam Cohen wasn't here when Anton Walker was drafted.
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Speaker 4: Liam Cohen wasn't here when Walker little you know, got
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Speaker 4: his new contract.
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Speaker 3: So in my eyes, they sed off a lot to
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Speaker 3: proof to Liam Cohne and company.
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Speaker 4: Right, So if I'm only if I'm you know, Liam Cohnen,
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Speaker 4: if I'm Gladstone and I'm kind of doing like a
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Speaker 4: you know, I'm sure they're gonna collaborate.
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Speaker 3: A little bit.
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Speaker 4: I look at a guy like, I mean, Membu right
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Speaker 4: now is the guy that's like shooting up draft boards
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Speaker 4: because he has speed?
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Speaker 3: Right he ran about a four nine four eight.
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Speaker 4: It's probably fashioning I ran at the combine, which makes
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Speaker 4: me feel a little sad now, but it's all good.
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Speaker 4: So you have member who's kind of like this athletic
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Speaker 4: freak coming from the Missouri this is the Missouri tackle.
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Speaker 4: And then you have another guy in Will Campbell, where
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Speaker 4: I feel like the whole year he was kind of
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Speaker 4: towered as the best tackle. Now here's how I think
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Speaker 4: about this. I don't out of LSU, by the way, yes,
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Speaker 4: and I won't get your opinion of this as well.
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Speaker 4: Man Like, do you go with the guy that kind
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Speaker 4: of put himself on the map due to a good combine,
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Speaker 4: or do you go with the guy who's more solidified
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Speaker 4: because of what he's done all season.
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Speaker 3: I so.
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Speaker 2: I go back to where James Gladstone has come from.
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Speaker 2: The LA Rams don't really send people to the combine, right,
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Speaker 2: and I don't know if the Jags will in the future.
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Speaker 3: Who knows.
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Speaker 2: The tapes out there. You can look at the times,
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Speaker 2: you can look at all that, but I think a
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Speaker 2: lot of the true evaluation will come from the tape.
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Speaker 2: From the tape from you know, everything's great.
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Speaker 3: In the pre draft process.
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Speaker 2: It's a nice evaluation and it might solidify some things
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Speaker 2: you see on tape, But I think when it comes
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Speaker 2: down to the nanny gritty, it goes back to the tape,
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Speaker 2: like what did they do in the fall? Yeah, that's
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Speaker 2: what I think would go to no, And I agree,
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Speaker 2: So that means, okay, maybe Membo's okay, he had a
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Speaker 2: great combine. Well did he have a great fall? Let's
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Speaker 2: go back and watch this again exactly. It brings you
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Speaker 2: back around and that's important to know too as well.
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Speaker 2: Where I think some gms they get so wrapped up
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Speaker 2: in the numbers, right, Like, I mean, you know, God
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Speaker 2: rest his soul. At Al Davis was still around I'm
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Speaker 2: sure Membo would look great in a Raiders jersey, you know.
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Speaker 3: What I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: But then there's some gms like you just mentioned where
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Speaker 4: they're they're concerned more about tape, right And I think
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Speaker 4: there's sometimes where maybe it's like a small school guy
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Speaker 4: like I was, where yeah, tape is one thing, but
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Speaker 4: then you have to show up the combine as well,
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Speaker 4: just because you have to reassure that can you handle
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Speaker 4: the workload of the NFL.
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Speaker 3: So everything's different. But I think when we talk.
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Speaker 4: About the best tackle out of this class right now,
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Speaker 4: I lean a little more towards Will Campbell because I
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Speaker 4: think his resume in terms of what he's able to accomplish,
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Speaker 4: and you know, he didn't lose any stock at the
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Speaker 4: combine by any means, I think he would be the guy.
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Speaker 2: And it is interesting that, I mean, the Jags apparently
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Speaker 2: are not going to do any thirty visits, so you
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Speaker 2: can bring thirty players in this time of year to
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Speaker 2: talk to them, you know, they're not doing it, and
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Speaker 2: I think they're one of I think there's about four
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Speaker 2: teams that are not doing that. Yeah, So again it
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Speaker 2: goes back to the tape and the scouting. You know,
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Speaker 2: if you really want to talk to you guy, you
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Speaker 2: probably get them on to zoom and do it. But
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Speaker 2: just getting that out of the evaluation, not altogether, but
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Speaker 2: not clouding your judgment when it comes to the tape.
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Speaker 3: No without that. I think that's the approach. I might
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Speaker 3: be a little off on that, but that's the feeling
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Speaker 3: looking at it, and that's what it has to be,
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Speaker 3: I think. JP.
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Speaker 4: You know, when we talk about like the visits and everything,
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Speaker 4: like listen, I took my fair share of visits. I
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Speaker 4: visited Buffalo when Tim Tebow was in my draft class,
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Speaker 4: and you know, I.
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Speaker 3: Was like the fifth role, like the fifth Beatle, and.
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Speaker 4: He was obviously like you know, Paul McCartney and and
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Speaker 4: like everybody combined like, oh, Tim Tebow's here, and I'm
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Speaker 4: just like, yeah, you.
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Speaker 3: Were there on the same day. That was there the
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Speaker 3: same day. It was.
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Speaker 4: It was me, Tim Tebow and Brandon Spikes another line. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: So you have you know, little Austin Lane from you know,
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Speaker 4: wherever the heck he's from in Murray State University. Then
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Speaker 4: you have you know, Captain America and Tim Tebow and
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Speaker 4: Brandon Spikes.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I was, you know, I was obviously the sea side
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Speaker 4: of a lot of those conversations. But I didn't really
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Speaker 4: learn much, you know when it comes to the business.
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Speaker 4: Like they got me in front of the board a
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Speaker 4: little bit, but it was not that of the combine, right.
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Speaker 4: So I just think sometimes visits are used more as
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Speaker 4: Right at Dahi's place many times at a w there.
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Speaker 4: I've been to many shows, like a bunch of concerts
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Speaker 4: over there. Oh yeah, it's a good time.
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Speaker 3: What's what's your like? What do you listen to before
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Speaker 3: a fight? Oh?
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Speaker 4: Wow, anything and everything, honestly, but with a fight usually
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Speaker 4: you're you're kind of busy like hitting mits and everything,
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Speaker 4: so you know you don't have time to have the
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Speaker 4: headphones on too much. But uh, when I was like
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Speaker 4: playing in the league and everything in the NFL locker room,
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Speaker 4: and this would drive Joel calling insane because when I
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Speaker 4: wore my headphones, you better believe they're cranked up to eleven.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: So I was rocking anything from like we're going E
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Speaker 4: d M music, We're going like rock, We're going hip hop,
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Speaker 4: like a little bit of everything, and to the point
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Speaker 4: where Joe call and be like, turn that dang music
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Speaker 4: down a little bit.
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Speaker 3: It's too loud. You know, you know your death.
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Speaker 4: I'm like, we're all good coaches, getting trying to getting
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Speaker 4: in the Bible a little bit. But when when I
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Speaker 4: had my combine, I was probably the most nerves I
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Speaker 4: really been in terms of like getting ready to go perform,
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Speaker 4: right because at the Scouting Combat Combat. I was on
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Speaker 4: the scouting combat in Indie, and you know it's like
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Speaker 4: the underwear Olympics, right, like you're just out there for
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Speaker 4: for all to see, you know, two hundred and seventy
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Speaker 4: whatever pound Austin with you know, some under armours Span
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Speaker 4: dex On and.
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Speaker 3: That's about it.
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Speaker 4: But I actually played a lot of Miley Cyrus part
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Speaker 4: of the USA. It was a big song at the time,
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Speaker 4: and that kind of helped call me down a little
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Speaker 4: bit and dance a little bit. So I think I
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Speaker 4: ran a four to eight at the combine, So, you know,
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Speaker 4: shout out to Miley Syrus for helped me out there.
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Speaker 4: How many reps of the bench press if.
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Speaker 3: You do so?
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Speaker 4: Didn't do the bench press at the combine, but I
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Speaker 4: benched at my protege.
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Speaker 3: I think got twenty one or twenty two. Okay, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's good. It's how it's all. I got these long arms.
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's tough. Yeah, yeah, I
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Speaker 3: feel the same way. I have the same problem.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the reason I don't do that with Jeff
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Speaker 2: Loggaman out Austin Laney and I'm JP Shatterick.
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Speaker 3: It's Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 2: We're at the Hyundai Studios on Tintin XL, Jaguars dot
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Speaker 2: com and Jaguars YouTube. April seventh, the offseason program can
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Speaker 2: began for teams with a coaching change. The Jaguars will
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Speaker 2: begin April eighth officially, so that means strength and conditioning
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Speaker 2: for the first couple weeks of the offseason program. And
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Speaker 2: that also means there's a new strength and conditioning staff
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Speaker 2: here as well, Austin and Eric Ciano has been in
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Speaker 2: the league for fifteen years with the Buffalo Bills. He's
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Speaker 2: the director of strength and Conditioning now for the Jaguars.
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Speaker 2: So we always hear about establishing the culture from the
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Speaker 2: head coach. He the offensive scheme and what's the terminology
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Speaker 2: and what happens on defense and everything that goes into that.
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Speaker 3: The special team staff is the same, but hey, this
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Speaker 3: is another side of it.
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Speaker 2: This group, the strength and conditioning staff, are the only
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Speaker 2: ones that can be on the field working with these
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Speaker 2: guys in the first couple of weeks. Yeah, there's some
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Speaker 2: classroom working things that happened. But how much of a
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Speaker 2: challenge is it for Siano, the new strength and conditioning
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Speaker 2: director to establish his program when he hasn't been able
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Speaker 2: to get in front of these guys.
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's definitely it's gonna be a little challenging.
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Speaker 4: And you know, and especially when we talk about strength
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Speaker 4: and conditioning coaches, right, Like usually if you're a new
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Speaker 4: coach on a new team, you bring in your own guy, right,
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Speaker 4: because you hear things in circles and you want to
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Speaker 4: be comfortable with what you know you can bring in.
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Speaker 4: Siana was in what Buffalo for I think fifteen years
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Speaker 4: or fourteen years, which I think speaks volumes on his
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Speaker 4: resume and what he's all about. Because if you can
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Speaker 4: go through coach after coach after coach like they did
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Speaker 4: in Buffalo for a while, I think that kind of
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Speaker 4: speaks volumes to what you're bringing on the table as
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Speaker 4: your own coach, right. So I think with Siano it's
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Speaker 4: gonna be important because people think that culture is built
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Speaker 4: in training camp, and culture is built you know, maybe
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Speaker 4: in the film room. But like he literally it's his
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Speaker 4: job to get a bunch of essentially strangers in there,
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Speaker 4: a bunch of grown men.
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Speaker 3: To lift weights number one but number two, to.
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Speaker 4: Kind of rally together and be like, hey, this is
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Speaker 4: how we do things and everybody goes about that differently.
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Speaker 2: And then every player has their own plan you have
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Speaker 2: to craft as well. Yes, I mean how does that
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Speaker 2: process start for a new guy coming in leading it?
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Speaker 4: I mean usually if you're a quarterback, like I think
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Speaker 4: I may have saw Blame Gabert twice in the weight
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Speaker 4: room when when I play it now. But you know,
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Speaker 4: the quarterbacks are kind of doing their own thing. It's
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Speaker 4: more mobility and stuff with their shoulders, you know, if
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Speaker 4: you're a big offensive lineman, if you're a defensive lineman,
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Speaker 4: you're throwing the real weight around and everything. But yeah,
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Speaker 4: usually you get divided up into groups and then you
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Speaker 4: just have to go accordingly. And obviously, I mean I've
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Speaker 4: I've been with some absolute monsters in the weight room.
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Speaker 4: One that sticks out to me is Stephen Paya, who
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Speaker 4: was with I was with him in Chicago. I think
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Speaker 4: he at the time he set the combine record for
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Speaker 4: most bench press reps at two twenty five. I want
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Speaker 4: to say it was like forty something, but I remember,
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Speaker 4: like I remember going in there thinking like, all right,
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Speaker 4: I'm pretty strong, you know, I can hold my own
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Speaker 4: and this dude we had an exercise, but we had
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Speaker 4: a bear crawl and then you you do a tress
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Speaker 4: up extension. So for those you know basically right, so
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Speaker 4: bear crawl than that, I'm not sure you've ever done
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Speaker 4: it before.
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Speaker 3: Joe, look at me, hey man, don't assume anyway.
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Speaker 4: So I was using the probably like forty five pounds
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Speaker 4: or whatever for twenty yards. Steven was using one hundred pounds,
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Speaker 4: that's it. And and that put it on perspective of
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Speaker 4: like there's strong and then there's like frequently strong, and
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Speaker 4: he was obviously preciously strong.
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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, there's.
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Speaker 2: Like we talked about Aaron Donald earlier, right, I mean
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Speaker 2: those some of those and James Harrison, like these guys
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Speaker 2: are just different when it comes to weight training, correct.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And then that's see I think nowadays, like when
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Speaker 4: I played back in the twenty ten twenty eleven, around
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Speaker 4: that time, I almost feel like strength coaches kind of
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Speaker 4: kept things a little more secret, right because you didn't
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Speaker 4: have all these YouTube videos, you didn't have Instagram. It
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Speaker 4: was more of just like the philosophies that you were taught,
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Speaker 4: and you're not gonna shame with anybody else. There's information,
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Speaker 4: there's access to everything now where you can do your
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Speaker 4: own strength program through an NFL team, and dude, we
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Speaker 4: can get you shdded by the time the season starts
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Speaker 4: if we want, not sure if you're in, if we want,
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Speaker 4: if we want, I mean, you have to have to
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Speaker 4: be on board with that. But but now I think
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Speaker 4: it's more about just making sure that you know, it's
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Speaker 4: about building that culture, but making sure that the players
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Speaker 4: are on the same page, right and making sure that
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Speaker 4: you're getting the best out of them, because there's the preseason,
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Speaker 4: there's the spring where it's okay, let's build our strength,
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Speaker 4: let's build our speed, and then probably even more important
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Speaker 4: part is during the middle of the season is making
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Speaker 4: sure we're maintaining but we're not getting.
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Speaker 2: Hurt as well. The technology. You certainly mentioned that, but
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Speaker 2: I don't. I'm gonna guess you didn't have a GPS
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Speaker 2: monitor on you when you were in Jack So the
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Speaker 2: GPS monitor started around then. Yeah, so when I was
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Speaker 2: on my way out when you were coming in. Actually,
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Speaker 2: I think was the first year they implemented the GPS monitors.
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Speaker 2: And it's crazy, like how much science now goes into
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Speaker 2: all this stuff, right, because I still feel like there's
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Speaker 2: some old school guys out there that are like get
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Speaker 2: these computers and you know there's no air weights, it's
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Speaker 2: all real weight and things like that. But you have
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Speaker 2: to be smart now, right, like we're talking about world
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Speaker 2: class athletes, and I think athletes now more than ever
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Speaker 2: pay attention to their bodies, what kind of fuel are
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Speaker 2: they putting into their bodies, how they're taking care of themselves.
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Speaker 2: So it has to be at a premium in terms
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Speaker 2: of how you're going about training these guys. And then
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Speaker 2: I mean from organization, well from one to another might
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Speaker 2: have a different philosophy on what they provide certain and
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Speaker 2: that's why of these grades come out from the NFLPA
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Speaker 2: or correct.
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Speaker 4: And I've had my fair share of strength coaches. I've
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Speaker 4: had Luke richardson his first year here, who actually trained
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Speaker 4: brock Lesner back in the day and in the UFC
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Speaker 4: as well. Brock Lesnar came to visit a little bit
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Speaker 4: with him. He was a really big proponent on more
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Speaker 4: of like the like the air weights, so as opposed
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Speaker 4: to like using like free weights that you see at
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Speaker 4: any kind of gym that you go to. This was
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Speaker 4: more of like the high tech fancy, you know, the
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Speaker 4: air weights they called them. I had Tom Lozinski, former player.
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Speaker 4: This guy was a little more old school, right, like
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Speaker 4: we got all the air compressed machines out of here,
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Speaker 4: and then we go back to like the real weight,
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Speaker 4: you know, and everything like that, which was it was
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Speaker 4: a nice change of pace as well. So I've been
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Speaker 4: around a couple of philosophies, but like I said, I
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Speaker 4: think back in those days, everyone kind of had their
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Speaker 4: own thing. I think as we get more and more
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Speaker 4: towards social media and everyone kind of sharing their ideas,
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Speaker 4: I think it's probably gonna become a little more even
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Speaker 4: of what teams are doing now in the weight room,
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Speaker 4: and it starts back and even high school now they're
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Speaker 4: doing this stuff.
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Speaker 2: So kids have been trained with all this from about
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Speaker 2: fourteen years old all the way up.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I have a ten year old playing flag
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Speaker 4: football right now, and and even he knows about like
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Speaker 4: you know certain and we're just doing body with exercises
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Speaker 4: until further notice, but like even he's in on it now.
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Speaker 3: You know, it's about mobility and flexibility.
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Speaker 4: I don't know what flexibility was until my third year
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Speaker 4: in the NFL when I started doing yoga for the
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Speaker 4: first time. Like it was all about muscles, it was
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Speaker 4: all about speed, but like forget flexibility.
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Speaker 3: But it's a big part of it.
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Speaker 2: It certainly is, and they'll have a lot of work
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Speaker 2: ahead of them starting April eighth, when the Jaguars began
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Speaker 2: the off season program with a new strength and conditioning staff.
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Speaker 2: We're back in a moment plenty more ahead as we
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Speaker 2: wind down on this Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 3: I hope what they see is someone who cares.
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Speaker 6: I hope that shows in my play. I think it
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Speaker 6: does because I do. I care a lot, care about
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Speaker 6: my teammates, I care.
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Speaker 3: About the team. Those are the things that I want
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Speaker 3: to be evident in my play.
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Speaker 6: They want to see a guy finishing all the way
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Speaker 6: of the whistle, picking up his teammates first one dare
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Speaker 6: to give him.
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Speaker 3: If I'm not doing that.
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Speaker 6: Text me, shoot me, tweet me, tell me I'm not
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Speaker 6: doing it, because that's important.
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Speaker 3: That stuff's important to me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the tweeting at players really wasn't a
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Speaker 2: thing when you were playing either right.
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Speaker 4: Now, not so much towards towards the end of my career,
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Speaker 4: it did become a little bit. I remember one time
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Speaker 4: we put the Saints and Drew Brees may have broke
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Speaker 4: my ankles onto play action and just kind of joked
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Speaker 4: me out of my shield.
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Speaker 3: I know, Bree, I don't wry. I end up getting
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Speaker 3: him back an I didn't get.
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Speaker 4: A quarterback sack later where he had some choice words
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Speaker 4: for me, So we were even. But yeah, a lot
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Speaker 4: of people felt the need to reach out to me
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Speaker 4: and let me know about Drew Brees breaking my ankle. Okay,
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Speaker 4: fair enough, wasn't wasn't my happiest moment. Probably not. How's
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Speaker 4: your bracket? By the way, and a basketball team starts tonight, Yeah,
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Speaker 4: it's been a lot better. Shout out to Louisville who
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Speaker 4: had in the final four, first game of the tournament,
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Speaker 4: they got beat. So I'm like, all right, at least
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Speaker 4: you're making it really easy on me to not invest myself.
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Speaker 4: But it's wild for how much basketball that I don't
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Speaker 4: watch during the regular season, where I think I'm an expert.
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Speaker 4: Once the tournament bracket comes out, where I think, okay,
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Speaker 4: you know, I'm gonna have some sleepers here, I'm gonna
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Speaker 4: have some quality picks.
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Speaker 3: I'm hurting right now.
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Speaker 4: And by the way, my son who's in a so
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Speaker 4: we're like a hundred team league kind of thing, like
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Speaker 4: a hundred bracket league. I'm in like ninetieth. My son
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Speaker 4: right now is in second place and it's the first
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Speaker 4: year of playing it.
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Speaker 3: Wow. And he lets me know about it every single day.
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Speaker 3: Bet he does. He's fantastic. You know what, what about you?
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Speaker 3: How's your brother? It's not great. I don't think you know.
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Speaker 2: We we have to do it for entertainment purposes only here, right,
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Speaker 2: So that's that's what it is. I think I picked
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Speaker 2: Duke because I like coach k but he retired three
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Speaker 2: years ago.
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Speaker 3: He's been how much basketball I watch?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's one of those has been
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Speaker 2: going right now. But Alabama's playing to night. I'm not
40:19
Speaker 2: a huge basketball fan.
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Speaker 3: Though. It's a football spring football season. Awesome, come on, man, gotcha,
40:26
Speaker 3: it is spring football.
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Speaker 2: It's also now baseball season, and your Milwaukee Brewers are
40:30
Speaker 2: losing two to one of the Yankees in the top
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Speaker 2: of the six.
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Speaker 3: Yep, Brewers got off to a really hot start.
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Speaker 4: Freddy Peralta on the mound decide to throw just an
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Speaker 4: absolute lob to the leadoff hitter and it was a
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Speaker 4: home run in New York. So we're off to a
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Speaker 4: fantastic start there, Jay, Yeah, big baseball guy. I'm a
40:45
Speaker 4: big Brewers guy. If the Brewers are doing well, I
40:47
Speaker 4: could talk baseball all day. If they're bottom of the division,
40:52
Speaker 4: I never heard of the sport book. They've been pretty
40:53
Speaker 4: good lately. They've been fantastic lately. Yeah, and they're really
40:56
Speaker 4: like overachieving in terms of what they have in the roster.
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Speaker 4: But like this is is kind of like that small
41:01
Speaker 4: market baseball, right, like where you develop players they do
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Speaker 4: really great, then they go to the Yankees or the
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Speaker 4: Dodgers or the Dodge right Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're from Japan, They're going to the Dodgers.
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Speaker 3: Kind of how it seems to be going right now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then of course you your last fight in
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Speaker 2: UFC was what March first, March first, so yeah, four
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Speaker 2: weeks ago.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, weeks ago. Yep.
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Speaker 4: Thankfully didn't get too like beat up in my face,
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Speaker 4: and anything that wasn't a good fight for me ended
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Speaker 4: up kind of you know, taking a little bit of
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Speaker 4: a gnat. But overall, man had a great first round,
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Speaker 4: actually dropped my opponent, and the second round just got
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Speaker 4: a little too uh trigger happy, try to knock them
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Speaker 4: out and and have you weight.
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Speaker 3: You make one mistake, it's game over. It's over.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: How long does it take to recover from that? It
41:44
Speaker 3: all depends, you know.
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Speaker 4: The fight before that probably took me a little longer
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Speaker 4: because I had to get like seven stitches in the
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Speaker 4: back of my head from an illegal elbow. I've won
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Speaker 4: that fight, but that was took a little longer to
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Speaker 4: recover obviously, just with stitches and everything. But it was
41:56
Speaker 4: a cool setup because I had to get my jersey
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Speaker 4: retired at Murray State. So I went back to Murray
42:01
Speaker 4: State and our athletic trainer that I when I was
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Speaker 4: there was still there. I'm like, hey, you might have
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Speaker 4: taken these stitches out of my head, and he goes,
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Speaker 4: what are you talking about. I'm like, I got stitches
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Speaker 4: in my head, man, and like, let's try to, you know,
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Speaker 4: relive those glory days a little bit. So he ended
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Speaker 4: up taking the stitches out outstanding, yeah yeah.
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Speaker 2: And then on your daily regimen, like what do you
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Speaker 2: do it every day? I mean you're lighter now than
42:21
Speaker 2: you were playing football, really.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So my regiment, man, I'm always trying
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Speaker 4: to stay active. And I always say with fighting, you know,
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Speaker 4: there really is no off season. It's got to be
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Speaker 4: a lifestyle, right, So I always try to get something
42:34
Speaker 4: in the morning, whether it's a run, whether it's like
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Speaker 4: a weightlifting session. And then I always try to get
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Speaker 4: something in the afternoon as well. So whether that's you know, mitwork,
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Speaker 4: whether that's jiu jitsu, grappling, wrestling, I always try to
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Speaker 4: do something on the daily.
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Speaker 3: So stay pretty active, you know.
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Speaker 2: And I've we've talked about this before, I think on
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Speaker 2: the practice field, and I'm always fascinated by the mindset
42:55
Speaker 2: of MMA, yeah, and how you better flip to switch on, yeah,
43:01
Speaker 2: and and what that takes to cross a certain line
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Speaker 2: and be in that threshold and in that arena. Just
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Speaker 2: a totally different mindset than a lot of people just
43:10
Speaker 2: walking around the street.
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Speaker 4: It's such a different mindset. But it's also a different
43:14
Speaker 4: mindset than even football itself. Yeah, right, And that was
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Speaker 4: kind of like the biggest obstacle that had overcome, right,
43:20
Speaker 4: because in football it's all based off of motion. Right,
43:23
Speaker 4: you're talking to the guy who got in a fight
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Speaker 4: with montell Owens, like the second day of practice and
43:28
Speaker 4: women wearing just helmets, and montell Owens was like the
43:30
Speaker 4: nicest dude ever, Right, So so I feel like my
43:33
Speaker 4: future was kind of predetermined for me if I'm fighting
43:35
Speaker 4: montell Owens.
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Speaker 3: Gon a walk through. But you know, with that, like
43:39
Speaker 3: with football, it's great because.
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Speaker 4: You can let that emotion out right, Like it's a
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Speaker 4: physically demanding sport, but every play last what maybe five
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Speaker 4: to seven seconds. In fighting, if you go with that
43:49
Speaker 4: football mentality where it's like, all right, I'm just gonna
43:51
Speaker 4: knock you out, you'll get knocked out.
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Speaker 3: Right.
43:53
Speaker 4: So if you ever watch a fighter walk in a cage,
43:56
Speaker 4: they're always calm, they're always cool, they're always collected because
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Speaker 4: you really have to be. And it's weird trying to
44:01
Speaker 4: make that walk. And I've made that walk now. If
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Speaker 4: I cut my amateur in my pro career, I mean
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Speaker 4: like twenty seven times, twenty eight times, and every time
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Speaker 4: you make that walk, your mind is telling you like
44:12
Speaker 4: I'm going to something dangerous and I shouldn't be doing this.
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Speaker 4: And you ask any fight or this, whether they're full
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Speaker 4: of machismo or not, they're tell you the same thing.
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Speaker 3: If they're telling the truth, there is nerves and there
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Speaker 3: is your.
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Speaker 4: Mind saying like, we shouldn't be here, we shouldn't be
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Speaker 4: doing this, this isn't this is dangerous.
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Speaker 3: Right. But then it's.
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Speaker 4: Wild how you go from that moment and then you
44:31
Speaker 4: get in the cage and you kind of walk around
44:34
Speaker 4: a little bit, and then all of a sudden, you're
44:35
Speaker 4: like back to regranting yourself of Hey, I've done this
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Speaker 4: a million times, I've done this in practice a million times,
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Speaker 4: I can do this, and all of a sudden, like
44:42
Speaker 4: all that nervous energy just goes away.
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Speaker 2: That's crazy, it really is. And when's your next fight?
44:49
Speaker 2: How does that work? So now it's kind of the
44:51
Speaker 2: waiting game, right. So I signed a four fight deal.
44:55
Speaker 2: That was my first fight, was my last fight, was
44:57
Speaker 2: the first fight on a new contract.
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Speaker 4: So we got three more fights, hopefully sometime in the summertime. Man,
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Speaker 4: But we'll see, you know, I mean, I'm I'm open
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Speaker 4: to whenever. But it's just you know, it's getting ready
45:07
Speaker 4: for the landscape. And that's the cool thing about fighting too,
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Speaker 4: is that you can just be yourself with it, you know.
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Speaker 4: I Mean there's some guys like the Connor mcgregors of
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Speaker 4: the old who want to make it a pacade and
45:16
Speaker 4: make it.
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Speaker 3: A giant spectacle, kind of like Rick Flair. More power
45:19
Speaker 3: to you.
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Speaker 4: I'm more of the guy that's just gonna you know,
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Speaker 4: be even keeled, go with the flow and and try
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Speaker 4: to knock your head off, you know, and then that's
45:25
Speaker 4: what it's gotta be. Yeah, And let's let's get you
45:28
Speaker 4: back out there soon. Let's get here man.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Jags, as we said, will be back out
45:32
Speaker 2: there April eighth, the start of the off season program
45:35
Speaker 2: owners meetings.
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Speaker 3: Help me up next week.
45:37
Speaker 2: So down in Palm Beach, the NFL Annual Meeting, there'll
45:41
Speaker 2: be a lot of rule changes on the table and.
45:43
Speaker 4: A lot of a lot of you know, I'm sure
45:45
Speaker 4: like Hawaiian shirts being worn everything too as well.
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Speaker 3: Probably, So let's go probably some croque on the lawn.
45:52
Speaker 3: I just saw that one year. And Boca of all things.
45:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the Boca Ratone Club, they have a croquet court, yeah,
45:58
Speaker 2: grass or whatever you call it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what you'd call that. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe so it's like European, right, So I probably
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Speaker 2: there either way. So there's that going on. Of course,
46:08
Speaker 2: there's meetings, league meetings and everything. The rule changes and
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Speaker 2: all that start will start coming out next week and
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Speaker 2: then hey, the players are in and then it's the
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Speaker 2: NFL Draft April twenty four, twenty five, twenty six, at
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Speaker 2: Green Bay of all places.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and I might go back home for that.
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Speaker 4: We'll see you're gonna come. I mean, I'm not sure
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Speaker 4: like how green Bay is gonna host this whole thing,
46:29
Speaker 4: because it is. You've been to Green Bay before, I have.
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Speaker 4: H Yeah, I'm very curious to what it's gonna look like. Yes,
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Speaker 4: I might just go back, just from out of curiosity.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's nowhere really to stay there. No, No,
46:39
Speaker 2: there's not many. I'm sure the league scooped up most
46:42
Speaker 2: of the places there. I think our crew that we're
46:44
Speaker 2: sending there is staying in.
46:45
Speaker 4: Like Apples and Yeah, Appleton's like a probably like twenty
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Speaker 4: thirty minutes away.
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Speaker 3: It's up on a little time to go get a drink.
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Speaker 4: I obviously at my mom's house actually, So we're gonna
46:53
Speaker 4: be h re reliving the glory days of being in
46:56
Speaker 4: high school again.
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Speaker 3: So hopefully she's got my room clean from Maybe you
46:58
Speaker 3: should go find that pro.
47:00
Speaker 4: I can find that program absolutely and bring it back
47:03
Speaker 4: to Tony but selling they can feel old again.
47:04
Speaker 3: That would be hilarious if you could pull that off,
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Speaker 3: see what I can do, that would be great.
47:09
Speaker 2: And then on the show, Brenton Austin Britten Austin all
47:12
Speaker 2: that strep.
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Speaker 3: That was five times. Yep, it's still going man.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think we're a great combination when
47:18
Speaker 4: we talk about the jag just because of you.
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Speaker 3: I mean, Brent's there, you're the show Well, no, I'm
47:23
Speaker 3: not the show man.
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Speaker 4: Brent does a great job of keeping us on track
47:26
Speaker 4: because it was up to me. Man, we're all over
47:28
Speaker 4: the road. So Brent does a great job of keeping
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Speaker 4: me in check, you know, kind of softening my rough
47:32
Speaker 4: edges a little bit. But it's a great chemistry that
47:35
Speaker 4: we have. We have a lot fun with it and
47:37
Speaker 4: check it out sometimes, yeah.
47:38
Speaker 3: Check it out? Where can we check it out?
47:39
Speaker 4: I mean, I am I allowed to say oh okay, yeah, okay,
47:42
Speaker 4: I don't know man, I mean, hey, I'm a freelancer
47:44
Speaker 4: man right now. So it's on it's it's on the
47:47
Speaker 4: Action Sports Jack's app. But we're also on Twitter, we're
47:50
Speaker 4: on YouTube rall around. So just type in Brent and
47:52
Speaker 4: Austin you'll find us.
47:53
Speaker 3: You can find it. It's always on x I see
47:55
Speaker 3: that all.
47:55
Speaker 4: It's all well because Brent retweets it like fifty times
47:58
Speaker 4: a day. I don't do as much. Probably should a
48:00
Speaker 4: little more. That's the name of the game. You got
48:02
Speaker 4: to promote yourself. I'm trying that. That's something I'm trying
48:05
Speaker 4: to learn how to care about social media again, slowly
48:08
Speaker 4: but surely.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's hard to do.
48:10
Speaker 4: Sometimes, especially with the MMA communities too and everything, because
48:13
Speaker 4: usually I lose people money, so then they wanted you know,
48:15
Speaker 4: there's a lot of did they feel like people come
48:18
Speaker 4: out to be like, hey, you know, I lost three
48:19
Speaker 4: thousand dollars on you, or like I bet one hundred
48:22
Speaker 4: dollars on you.
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Speaker 3: Better win. Like that's like me going.
48:24
Speaker 4: To a dealership and be like, hey, I bet one
48:26
Speaker 4: hundred dollars a you're gonna sell a car today.
48:28
Speaker 3: I don't know who you are, but like, best of
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Speaker 3: luck to you, bro.
48:31
Speaker 2: You don't know these people, I got my face smashed it.
48:33
Speaker 2: Yeah you think I feel yeah, exactly, Yeah, I know
48:36
Speaker 2: I was. I was a meme for my last fight.
48:39
Speaker 4: How do you think I feel about you losing a
48:41
Speaker 4: couple of hundred bucks on you know, a parlay?
48:43
Speaker 2: Sorry funny man, Yeah, people are funny. That's the that's
48:47
Speaker 2: the world we live in today.
48:49
Speaker 3: All right. So that's what's coming up, the draft coming up?
48:52
Speaker 3: All right? So what is your optimist?
48:54
Speaker 2: Are you optimistic about the path the Jaguars are on
48:58
Speaker 2: to close it out today?
48:59
Speaker 3: Yeah?
48:59
Speaker 4: I am the because we have really no idea where
49:03
Speaker 4: we're Gladstone and company are going to go. But you
49:05
Speaker 4: get the sense that it could be a wide receiver
49:07
Speaker 4: or it could be an into a defensive lineman. And
49:09
Speaker 4: if that's the case, I feel like you can't go wrong.
49:12
Speaker 4: If Travis Hunter is going to be there, and I
49:13
Speaker 4: feel like you can't go wrong.
49:16
Speaker 3: If the Michigan is going to be there.
49:17
Speaker 2: How about how about the organization that Liam Cohen is
49:22
Speaker 2: putting together here?
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Speaker 4: I like it, you know, I mean time will tell, right.
49:25
Speaker 4: You still gotta win football games and everything, but I
49:28
Speaker 4: think the enthusiasm. I think being able to relate to
49:30
Speaker 4: players is a very important thing these days. You saw
49:33
Speaker 4: how devastated they were. Sorry Tampa, but you saw how
49:36
Speaker 4: devastated they were when he left and everything. So I
49:38
Speaker 4: think that's gonna be a good sign of, you know,
49:40
Speaker 4: getting the best out of these guys in lockers.
49:42
Speaker 3: It seems so overblown to me. What's that? I know?
49:47
Speaker 4: And then you have to ask permission from Tampa. I
49:49
Speaker 4: guess if you want to play in Orlando.
49:50
Speaker 3: It is what I was hearing.
49:51
Speaker 2: We're talking some of I think there's some of that,
49:53
Speaker 2: but like it's what it is. There's certain rules of
49:56
Speaker 2: that stuff. Yeah, but the whole dramatic Oh, he's we're
50:01
Speaker 2: mad at him for leaving, I know.
50:03
Speaker 3: I mean, the dude made a business decision. Man.
50:05
Speaker 4: Look it's a visit at the end of the day.
50:06
Speaker 4: I mean, it's wild for what he gave you all.
50:09
Speaker 4: You should be thankful.
50:10
Speaker 3: But we'll take him, certainly, will Austin. Great job, man,
50:14
Speaker 3: great see you. Thanks for having me. It's been a
50:15
Speaker 3: time and a half. Appreciate you.
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Speaker 4: It's been an hour in fact, very fast beats three hours.
50:21
Speaker 4: Beat the three hours with Martino every day.
50:24
Speaker 2: Let's do it again, Austin Lane bab Shadrick thanks to
50:28
Speaker 2: Joe Fortune Auto and Brent Reaver, and thanks to you
50:30
Speaker 2: for listening to the Jaguars Happy Hour